TIAI January 21

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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 25, 2012, 06:32:36 PM
I was thinking about the blood “theme” if I can call this like that and thought it would be a good idea to put all the blood “elements” together in the hopes that it might help understand something, something new, or something more lol.

1. We have the blood found on the Ark as described in The Sign’s post.

2. There was blood on a t-shirt found in Michael’s bedroom.

3. I remembered Adi made a connection between the autopsy picture and the Shroud of Turin and this can connect to the bloodied t-shirt as well.

I posted this on the TIAI thread but thought it should go here too:
To me it looks like there is an image of a face photoshopped along his chest and down his abdomen. Almost like the image on the Shroud of Turin…but not exactly the same face. Here are the two pics below to compare:

The Shroud of Turin parallel is interesting:


It is a linen cloth bearing the image of a man who appears to have suffered physical trauma in a manner consistent with crucifixion. It is kept in the royal chapel of the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, northern Italy. The image on the shroud is commonly associated with Jesus Christ, his crucifixion and burial. The origins of the shroud and its image are the subject of intense debate among scientists, theologians, historians and researchers.

There is a lot of debate as to whether the Shroud is authentic or if it is a fake….just like there is about this supposed autopsy picture of Michael!!!!!!!!
There is no way I am going to lose faith due to this picture. We know the ambo pic is fake, we know the death picture on the gurney is fake, we know so much about this entire thing is fake…so why wouldn’t this one be fake as well?
The media are gorging on this picture like the vultures they are.

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4. Paris recently tweeted about fake blood for a movie and published a picture of the fake blood in a vial, I find this reference of fake blood intriguing:

Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson
*le fake blood for le movie


5. Wishingstar reminded of "Blood on the dancefloor". That's another good reference that we may need to dig deeper into.

That’s all the blood references I can think of as of now.

To finish I came across a little zombie reference…it’s Thriller 2 after all!  lolol/

"By an amazing coincidence, the stone is already moved. How did that happen? By another amazing coincidence, there is someone there who tells them: Jesus has risen and is already gone. The fact that he first needed the stone removed from the tomb’s entrance suggests that Jesus is a reanimated corpse, a zombie Jesus wandering the countryside seeking out his disciples (no wonder they are hiding).

It’s understandable that the other gospels changed all this. Matthew has an angel move the stone as the women are standing there, revealing that Jesus is already gone. He’s not a reanimated corpse because the resurrected Jesus has no physical body — he has a spiritual body which passed through the stone.”

Jesus' Resurrection and the Empty Tomb (Mark 16:1-8) - Analysis and Commentary

Edited to add a number 5 ^^.

Interesting post, Sarahli! I'm busy learning here, because of the many interesting posts on this thread  :icon_e_smile:
There is a lot of debate as to whether the Shroud is authentic or if it is a fake….just like there is about this supposed autopsy picture of Michael!!!!!!!! 

I was searching for some highlights to visit in Avignon next Wednesday and the Palace of the Popes is surely a must see. I came across the book  of Jefferson Bass "Bones of Avignon" or "The Inquisitor's Key", which will be published on April 26.
A story based on controversies about the Shroud of Turin, is it a hoax or is it a real holy relic. What is fake, what is real? There's already a video trailer of the book, so probably the book will be filmed too.

"Bones of Avignon":
Miranda Lovelady is in France excavating a recently discovered chamber beneath the Palace of the Popes in Avignon.  She finds a stone chest inscribed with the message that inside lie the bones of Jesus of Nazareth.  Using a ploy, she gets her lover and teacher Dr. Bill Brockton to leave his Tennessee Body Farm for France.  The two forensic scientists believe that in all likelihood, these remains are a fake, as Chaucer pointed out with The Pardoner’s Tale, the Middle Ages had a thriving business.
To their amazement, the early analysis supports the stone’s claim that this is the remains of Jesus or at least someone who died in a similar fashion two millennia ago.  Brockton also analyzes the Shroud of Turin.  However, killers try to murder the pair while a true believer wants the bones as a means to begin the End of Time with the Second Coming.
Putting aside how Lovelady got Brocton to drop an autopsy to rush to Europe aside as improbable unless she was insane, the latest Body Farm forensic thriller (see The Bone Thief and The Bone Yard) is an exhilarating entry that focuses on the potential remains of Jesus.  When the storyline centers on the science and Christian history, it is incredibly well written and fascinating; when the plot turns into a shoot en up action thriller it is exciting but ordinary.  Still fans will appreciate Brockton examining the Shroud and looking at two thousand year old remains.

What do YOU think about the Shroud? Is it a clever hoax from the Middle Ages, or a genuine and holy relic, 2,000 years old?

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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 25, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
I have also been looking at all these references to blood. 

Also, If you think about Sign#2 and the festivals and furniture there is Passover.  The Last Supper was during Passover.   

Jesus told his disciples to drink his blood (wine), during the Last Supper.
article about the last supper     The Last Supper (Luke 22:7-23) | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site

It's also posted on the other site, Michael Jackson's Army of Love

That's interesting that Paris posted something about fake blood.  Maybe we should be aware of all the "fakes" that could be out there.
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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 26, 2012, 06:20:39 AM
Sarahli, thanks for bringing the blood references together!

Don't know if it adds to the blood list, but that JW's believe getting a blood transfusion is against God's laws of not drinking (taking in) blood. Yet Jesus told his disciples to drink his symbolic blood as in the wine.
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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 26, 2012, 10:33:28 AM
I was thinking about the blood “theme” if I can call this like that and thought it would be a good idea to put all the blood “elements” together in the hopes that it might help understand something, something new, or something more lol.

1. We have the blood found on the Ark as described in The Sign’s post.

2. There was blood on a t-shirt found in Michael’s bedroom.

There was a wound on his chest on the autopsy picture presented in court :WTF:
Interesting connections.
But let's say he died. I saw no reference to that wound and that T-shirt in the trial. Why?

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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 26, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
@MJonmind..."Yet Jesus told his disciples to drink his symbolic blood as in the wine" This can't be applied to Jehovah's witnesses.  :icon_rolleyes:

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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 26, 2012, 04:56:49 PM
Thank you guys.  :beerchug:

It seems like the Shroud of Turin will never be authentified nor proven fake!  :icon_lol:

I'll have a look at the other forum concerning the Last Supper.

The t-shirt not being presented in court as evidence is maybe because it has nothing to do with the official cause of "death"? Now it must have a meaning in the famous hoax big picture. It must represent something else/more. What I see is a white new t-shirt (innocence, purity) with blood stains (physical pain, deep pain) in a closet (hidden). Or maybe it will play a role later on.
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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 27, 2012, 03:19:25 AM
Sarahli, I’ve posted a few times about Joseph in the Bible (Old Testament) and connections to MJ’s life and hoax. I believe the bloody shirt’s purpose might be simply to draw us to this story.  I think MJ just loves to stir up controversy and discussion in thousands of small ways! :)

Michael's laugh in this is it?
There are 11 dancers in part of it looking like they are bowing down to Michael who is above them on the lifted stage. Reminds me of of Joseph (his middle name of course) in Genesis who has a dream that his 11 brothers bow down to him. It is a dream that comes true when in spite of them jealously selling him for 20 pieces of silver as a slave and faking his death to their father Jacob by showing him a bloody coat (reminds me of the bloody shirt hanging in the bedroom closet), Joseph with the help of God, rises to become the second in command to the Pharoah of Egypt, who with the help of God saves from starvation death much of that part of the world in a major famine. There's other details in the story that could compare to Michael's situation as well. Joseph is seen by Bible scholars as a type or picture of what Christ's life would be like and accomplish.
And I said more on it here:  Thisisalmostit

Also, here’s my reasons for believing the Shroud to be fake or not Jesus: (Could even be Leonardo da Vinci’s early photographic experiments.)  Turin Shroud is face of Leonardo da Vinci - Telegraph

As for the Shroud of Turin, it is another hoax/fake/fraud whatever you want to call it.  Shroud of Turin, sacred relic or religious hoax? - The Emergence of the Shroud - Crime Library on truTV.com Plus it doesn't even match the descriptions of what took place in the Bible.  The head piece was rolled up separately and the body wrapped mummy style; there was no forensic sign of the 100 lbs. of spices wrapped with the body given by Nicodemus; its carbon-dated for around 1300 AD, and the most convincing to me is the fact that an image burned into a molded cloth all around the body would produce a distorted spread image similar to the problem of creating a flat map of the earth's globular shape, yet the image looks picture perfect and would have had to be burned onto a flat smooth sheet to look like that. Hoax.
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Re: TIAI January 21

  • on: April 28, 2012, 12:56:59 AM
Thank u so much MJonmind for that impressive Joseph connection  - indeed   BACK verifyed that by his quote, from Of a Theory or a Vision  -  on 7 month angel was send to the city of Angels for the man named Joseph -   if i well remember.@@

Also, to tight up Jesus blood of Last  Supper
and His Tomb  -   I may add, that Early Fathers from  Christian tradition believed that Holy Tomb was full of flame of fire after Jesus resurrection  and that is what was actually witnessed by John and Peter.
To this days Holy Fire is appeared  inside the sealed Tomb every year  on day before or after Great Friday. Flames of that fire is cold for few minutes after its appears and its considered to b one of the greatest miracle  in christian world and also tradition believed , that  the year when  Holy Fire is not appears from the Tomb - will be literally the LAST year and signify EOW.
That Fire is are the flames of Holy Spirit that is send upon believers on feast of Holy Trinity - the 50 days after  Easter.

Now  back to Last Supper and Holy Flames of Jesus Tomb connection as I promise @@.

Since early christian begins to build temples/cathedrals/ churches -- the place of Holy Tomb (full of flames not to forget) is signified by the table/throne inside altar which the actually Holy of Holies, the place where the Lamb will be sacrificed and during the liturgy/mass its the actual place where priest perform Sacred EUCHARIST  and where by the end of service --  brad and wine is became Holy Body and Blood of our Lord .
As we know, Communion itself is the greatest miracle that one can experience -  by the nature IT IS    purest energy of our Lord, the Creator, that why its directly effected your mind and body with full sensation of LOVE, JOY and WISDOM, its able to heal and change you enormously, as its content the power, that was created the World and Us at the Beginning.

As for authenticity of  Ark  --  its should b agreed first what we looking for - physical or metaphysical Ark . Metaphysically,  the Ark is existed on the form of throne inside altar in any christian cathedral/church, as i described above.
For the physical Ark, i have to give Rhone benefit of the doubt, since presence of the "blood" can be mistaken for something else, and also the Angels appearance is very much in question for me by his testimony. 
Also I wonder WHY to this Days No One from his camp, who also was witnessed such enormously powerful event  keep silent- simple honest second words from real people who was THERE wth Rhone  will be very helpful to support all that discovery,  unless I missed  some of that priceless account from witnesses.

LOVE to all and Stay Blessed everyone!

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