Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 07:40:24 PM
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."


I've been observing this forum for some time now. We’re a group of investigators, right? Let’s do some hardcore investigating together. Let’s combine forces and make this investigation huge. I noticed a majority of you believe Michael faked his death to escape the Illuminati and protect his family. I’m extremely pleased that this investigation has awoken so many of you the facts. The world is not what we thought it was, is it? The way I see it, the “hoax” can be split three ways:

1.   The “Illuminati” were trying to kill Michael (as he told many people) and he out thought them and managed to escape, saving himself and his family.
2.   Michael did not out think the Illuminati and they killed him.
3.   Dr. Murray was responsible for his death. The Illuminati wasn’t involved.

NOTE: I’m going to say IF a lot, which I know a lot of you don’t like. The reason I’m doing this is because I don’t want you to know if I think he’s alive or not. I want you all to use your own intuition. YES that part is very important. I think everyone here wants him to be alive. But, I think we should all work together on exposing and figuring out the common denominator for all this- The Illuminati. Because even if they didn’t get him, they’re still trying to and he’s still in danger. He wanted to help us see. I think we need to honor him, alive or dead and HELP HIM this time.

Now, a little investigating can eliminate number 3. His own family believes he was murdered and Murray was the “fall guy.” Michael knew what was happening. He knew they were against him. He told so many people they were trying to kill him. He wouldn’t eat or drink because they were trying to poison him. (This is where the rumors came from that he wasn’t eating.) Michael’s records were number one ALL OVER THE WORLD. Everywhere except America, that is. The American government is filled with the most corrupt, power hungry elites of all. They despise Michael Jackson and everything he stands for. Michael spoke of this on numerous occasions, many of which can be found on youtube. He is even quoted in a video saying his records were number one all over the world, except for America. When asked why he said, “I don’t wanna say too much, there’s a conspiracy, I don’t wanna say too much. I’m done.”  The American government has depopulation plans. They study a religion called Eugenics. They plan to kill off a majority of our world’s population using genocide. Michael planned to expose this and many other NWO tactics, which is why many believe he was killed before he got the chance. This is all done behind the curtain. Nobody knows who REALLY runs this country. Much like Murray, the president and visible government are the FALL GUYS. They read from teleprompters and do what they are told. Presidents who fail to comply are killed. 

The reason I did not include that this was all a game or “The greatest show on earth” as a theory is because it’s not at all like that. Sure, if Michael comes back, I’m sure it will be THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. But that was not why he did what he did, if he did. I believe that whole thing was a distraction.

We’re all one. We all have a common denominator. Let’s stop trying to get people to believe he alive or believe he’s dead. Because the truth is, those of you who think he’s alive have so much passion and intuition that there is no talking you out of it. And those of you who believe he’s dead are the same way. Go with your own intuition. But, Michael tried so hard to expose what they are doing to us. And he may have paid the ultimate price for trying to share his knowledge. Let’s expose these people!

PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it.
If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share.

I love you all.
We can do this.


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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.
I agree with you, and it should be the focus.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 08:10:35 PM
I also agree 100%, but at the same time, we are trying to find out "WHO" they are too.

That will answer the question we all have on this forum.......WHO wanted him dead ??

We are still searching for that answer, but we believe, MJ did escape in time. 

So how are we going to catch those PUPPET masters ????

I personally have done alot of research, we all have, and our common demoninator, is that the ILLUMINATI wanted him dead......

Have you seen Louis Farrakhan speeches about this ??  Him completely knows "WHO" they are, and MJ did call him 7 days before the HOAX and asked him for help....Help from the NOI, and it is noted an increased number of BODYGUARDS were seen on the night of the 24th Jne at his house...Hmmmmmmmm

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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@2good Farrakhan is a brilliant man.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.

Well that's pretty insulting to the members that have been investigating this very same topic for 2 years already on here.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 08:47:21 PM
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."


I've been observing this forum for some time now. We’re a group of investigators, right? Let’s do some hardcore investigating together. Let’s combine forces and make this investigation huge. I noticed a majority of you believe Michael faked his death to escape the Illuminati and protect his family. I’m extremely pleased that this investigation has awoken so many of you the facts. The world is not what we thought it was, is it? The way I see it, the “hoax” can be split three ways:

1.   The “Illuminati” were trying to kill Michael (as he told many people) and he out thought them and managed to escape, saving himself and his family.
2.   Michael did not out think the Illuminati and they killed him.
3.   Dr. Murray was responsible for his death. The Illuminati wasn’t involved.

NOTE: I’m going to say IF a lot, which I know a lot of you don’t like. The reason I’m doing this is because I don’t want you to know if I think he’s alive or not. I want you all to use your own intuition. YES that part is very important. I think everyone here wants him to be alive. But, I think we should all work together on exposing and figuring out the common denominator for all this- The Illuminati. Because even if they didn’t get him, they’re still trying to and he’s still in danger. He wanted to help us see. I think we need to honor him, alive or dead and HELP HIM this time.

Now, a little investigating can eliminate number 3. His own family believes he was murdered and Murray was the “fall guy.” Michael knew what was happening. He knew they were against him. He told so many people they were trying to kill him. He wouldn’t eat or drink because they were trying to poison him. (This is where the rumors came from that he wasn’t eating.) Michael’s records were number one ALL OVER THE WORLD. Everywhere except America, that is. The American government is filled with the most corrupt, power hungry elites of all. They despise Michael Jackson and everything he stands for. Michael spoke of this on numerous occasions, many of which can be found on youtube. He is even quoted in a video saying his records were number one all over the world, except for America. When asked why he said, “I don’t wanna say too much, there’s a conspiracy, I don’t wanna say too much. I’m done.”  The American government has depopulation plans. They study a religion called Eugenics. They plan to kill off a majority of our world’s population using genocide. Michael planned to expose this and many other NWO tactics, which is why many believe he was killed before he got the chance. This is all done behind the curtain. Nobody knows who REALLY runs this country. Much like Murray, the president and visible government are the FALL GUYS. They read from teleprompters and do what they are told. Presidents who fail to comply are killed. 

The reason I did not include that this was all a game or “The greatest show on earth” as a theory is because it’s not at all like that. Sure, if Michael comes back, I’m sure it will be THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. But that was not why he did what he did, if he did. I believe that whole thing was a distraction.

We’re all one. We all have a common denominator. Let’s stop trying to get people to believe he alive or believe he’s dead. Because the truth is, those of you who think he’s alive have so much passion and intuition that there is no talking you out of it. And those of you who believe he’s dead are the same way. Go with your own intuition. But, Michael tried so hard to expose what they are doing to us. And he may have paid the ultimate price for trying to share his knowledge. Let’s expose these people!

PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it.
If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share.

I love you all.
We can do this.


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Welcome empyreal, i would like to read their knowledge i have a very open mind

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."


I've been observing this forum for some time now. We’re a group of investigators, right? Let’s do some hardcore investigating together. Let’s combine forces and make this investigation huge. I noticed a majority of you believe Michael faked his death to escape the Illuminati and protect his family. I’m extremely pleased that this investigation has awoken so many of you the facts. The world is not what we thought it was, is it? The way I see it, the “hoax” can be split three ways:

1.   The “Illuminati” were trying to kill Michael (as he told many people) and he out thought them and managed to escape, saving himself and his family.
2.   Michael did not out think the Illuminati and they killed him.
3.   Dr. Murray was responsible for his death. The Illuminati wasn’t involved.

NOTE: I’m going to say IF a lot, which I know a lot of you don’t like. The reason I’m doing this is because I don’t want you to know if I think he’s alive or not. I want you all to use your own intuition. YES that part is very important. I think everyone here wants him to be alive. But, I think we should all work together on exposing and figuring out the common denominator for all this- The Illuminati. Because even if they didn’t get him, they’re still trying to and he’s still in danger. He wanted to help us see. I think we need to honor him, alive or dead and HELP HIM this time.

Now, a little investigating can eliminate number 3. His own family believes he was murdered and Murray was the “fall guy.” Michael knew what was happening. He knew they were against him. He told so many people they were trying to kill him. He wouldn’t eat or drink because they were trying to poison him. (This is where the rumors came from that he wasn’t eating.) Michael’s records were number one ALL OVER THE WORLD. Everywhere except America, that is. The American government is filled with the most corrupt, power hungry elites of all. They despise Michael Jackson and everything he stands for. Michael spoke of this on numerous occasions, many of which can be found on youtube. He is even quoted in a video saying his records were number one all over the world, except for America. When asked why he said, “I don’t wanna say too much, there’s a conspiracy, I don’t wanna say too much. I’m done.”  The American government has depopulation plans. They study a religion called Eugenics. They plan to kill off a majority of our world’s population using genocide. Michael planned to expose this and many other NWO tactics, which is why many believe he was killed before he got the chance. This is all done behind the curtain. Nobody knows who REALLY runs this country. Much like Murray, the president and visible government are the FALL GUYS. They read from teleprompters and do what they are told. Presidents who fail to comply are killed. 

The reason I did not include that this was all a game or “The greatest show on earth” as a theory is because it’s not at all like that. Sure, if Michael comes back, I’m sure it will be THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. But that was not why he did what he did, if he did. I believe that whole thing was a distraction.

We’re all one. We all have a common denominator. Let’s stop trying to get people to believe he alive or believe he’s dead. Because the truth is, those of you who think he’s alive have so much passion and intuition that there is no talking you out of it. And those of you who believe he’s dead are the same way. Go with your own intuition. But, Michael tried so hard to expose what they are doing to us. And he may have paid the ultimate price for trying to share his knowledge. Let’s expose these people!

PLEASE do your research. PLEASE look up everything mentioned on here if you are not already familiar with it.
If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share.

I love you all.
We can do this.


"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."


This is a great post. A lot to think about. I have been watching this youtuber who is of the Muslim belief, and they basically point all of the significance behind Michael Jackson's videos ....a lot of things that I would have NEVER caught on to if it weren't for this "hoax" case scenario. Anywho, I questioned the owner of the page about the CD covers of Blood on the Dance Floor, AND the "Michael" cd, and they basically told me that the illuminati made the Michael CD just to mess with our heads. That left me totally confused. Not only that, but the fact that the owner of this youtube page is adamant in their belief that MJ is indeed gone. Other than that, the main thing that left me confused is that if the Illuminati produced the cover of the Michael cd, why would they leave so many clues as to MJ being alive? 
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 08:49:50 PM
This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.

Well that's pretty insulting to the members that have been investigating this very same topic for 2 years already on here.



It is true there are members with a good analytical mind and with good research

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 09:03:37 PM
@Souza I'm sorry, please don't be offended. I know you've been here from the start, and I commend you for being so devoted. There are a lot of extremely intelligent people on here and I completely understand that the newbie has to earn their rep.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
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If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share.

I'm listening. They have always seemed a somewhat large group, and vague and ambiguous.  We tend to only see the ones being manipulated by the attached strings. If this will indeed bring greater clarity and understanding, then let's do this.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 09:34:44 PM
This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.

Well that's pretty insulting to the members that have been investigating this very same topic for 2 years already on here.

EXACTLY! 

@empyreal
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If you guys will allow it, I have a lot of knowledge I would like to share."

Good morning America........Do we have another mister/miss X?  You have a lot of knowledge, good for you, just jump in and share it. We are allowing u since research has been done already and we are kinda resting.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 10:11:53 PM
Just to clarify: my comment was mainly directed at Magic_Love_4U (see quote).

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 10:20:19 PM
have noticed an influx of newbies in the past few weeks. (have no freedom of speech as i am only 3 months at this site - plus one as a guest, so 4 months in total...)

but yeah, just saying... lots of new people are signing up. in my opinion, there is incredible research here from many wonderful minds in this forum. i think its VERY important for newbies to go back and read the archived info before sharing theories.. remember this is 2 years of real time info to catch up on. so it will take a while to get through it and then even more time to try digest and comprehend the info....

it really is quite important. i dedicate half of my forum time everyday, to read old posts.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 10:23:14 PM
This is the most sane thing I have read in this forum ever.
I agree with you, and it should be the focus.

Ah! really? Thank you, I have been in this forum for 2 yrs, and others have done wonderful investigations. I feel that you haven't read everything in this forum.. It is a little insulting to us that have been here for a very long time. I welcome you to this forum, and looking forward in reading your posts. Maybe you can come up with more accurate informations.. blessings.


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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 10:57:33 PM
Alright let me clear a few things up quick.

1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old.
2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.
3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights.

These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 11:19:46 PM
I think you are right empyreal.  We need to expose them in order to help Michael and also The World.  Let's do it.
"And when that flag blows
There'll be no more wars
And when all calls
I will answer all your prayers"

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 11:35:38 PM
Alright let me clear a few things up quick.

1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old.
2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.
3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights.

These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world.

I personally am not offended teen. You are got late in here to suggest to study illuminati whereas that homework has been passed already. You and I, and Michael J Jackson along with his Army of Love cannot fight against army of illuminaty chatting about it on this forum or even trying to do something.
Expose? they have been exposed long time ago, we have  journalist video who has been studying and following illuminati for years. There are videos, books, articles about them out there. It is not a secret.
Someone tried to kill MJ and I believe he is alive and escaped with no return. Simple.
Your turn without preface.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm
I have to agree.This people are very crafty,as well as powerful.Although i believe Michael outsmarted them,i still realize there is a chance that they could be the ones doing the hoaxing.I just cant get it out of my head,that these people own the media,but yet they televise the trial,knowing that M.J faked his death.That does not add up to me.What if there reason for the hoax,is to distract us and keep us occupied,while they are ironing out their plan for the NWO.Don't get me wrong i believe that Michael is alive,but i choose to be open to the possibility that maybe we are being tricked by the puppet masters.Remember they are the masters of deception.
MJ u are so beautiful,inside and out,u truly are a gift from God.I love u,brother.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 03, 2011, 11:49:46 PM
It may not be a secret but in my opinion not many people have woken up.  They don't really know about it or they don't believe it.  If it gets to the main stream media it may wake more people up.  If it is about a big star then more people will pay attention.    I think that is the goal.
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There'll be no more wars
And when all calls
I will answer all your prayers"

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 12:03:03 AM
Without preface? Ma'am, you suggested that I might be another "Mr/Miss X" so I clarified and explained who I am. I understand this is frustrating and you've been at it a long time but please don't snap at me just because I'm new to this username, and a teenager. I don't have the mindset of a teenager so that should be all that matters. Otherwise, you don't know me at all. If I hadn't said my age you'd never know and you wouldn't be able to discriminate and call me "teen". Actually, you said some judgmental things right off the bat, before I even mentioned my age. I'm not sure what I did to make you mad but I'm sorry that it led to this. I know I'd never discriminate against you, especially for your age.

As far as them being exposed, of course many people have tried. And there is a little bit of exposure. But there are still a lot of people who don't have a clue. My mission isn't over until the world knows. Also, I wasn't claiming that could fight against them by "chatting in this forum." I know there's so much work to do that it's nearly impossible. NEARLY. I came here first because I know you all are a bunch of intelligent people. I also mentioned in the first post that I was happy a lot of you already know about the Illuminati. I knew you guys already studied it. But it's not over. So I don't think I'm late. It's never too late.

I hate arguing. Let's just be friends? We're both fighting the good fight. We have no reason to not get along.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
You want to say you are mature for your age. Good for you or may be not for different reasons. But that's off the topic. What is your theory of hoax and its connection to illuminati, and who are they in relation to Michael?
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm

Wow....I've never thought about it from that perspective. Great observation. I really do hope he beat them to the punch. But besides the fact that the Illuminati could be indeed playing with us mentally and emotionally, yet and still, his family throws off a lot of clues. They do keep saying that he was "murdered"...just like Jimmi Hendrix was murdered(illuminati involved)...tupac and so forth. Sigh.....I know why, without really KNOWING "why". It's crazy how I even had a dream last night that everyone in the world finally found out the truth. If it were only that easy. We just have to keep researching for the truth with 3rd eye, third ear, and hearts and minds open.
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 12:52:58 AM
Alright let me clear a few things up quick.

1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old.
2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.
3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights.

These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world.


I really like the way you mediate and think. Your aura so far is very refreshing about the topic because I'm starting to observe that some on here aren't even really entitled to their OWN opinion without getting called out on it or cyberly jumped on . It's a serious conversation piece and research but shouldn't be serious  to the point where offensiveness takes place. We should ALL be in this TOGETHER as MJ would want it...as ONE. It's all for L.O.V.E. and that's the way we should speak to each other....with love. :) So thanks for the fact on that matter. And thanks for being so persistent and optimistic about your pursuit of exposing the evil doers in this case. #Welcome! bearhug 
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 12:58:37 AM
@alfarle I've thought about that over and over again. These people are extremely crafty. Let's say they did manage to kill Michael. They could easily make it seem like a hoax to cover their tracks. And since everything is eerily similar to Elvis's death (which a LOT of people believe is a hoax) it would make it even more believable. Everything they do is closely connected with their numerology, which we've seen a LOT of during this whole ordeal. Kind of like this.. http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm
I have to agree.This people are very crafty,as well as powerful.Although i believe Michael outsmarted them,i still realize there is a chance that they could be the ones doing the hoaxing.I just cant get it out of my head,that these people own the media,but yet they televise the trial,knowing that M.J faked his death.That does not add up to me.What if there reason for the hoax,is to distract us and keep us occupied,while they are ironing out their plan for the NWO.Don't get me wrong i believe that Michael is alive,but i choose to be open to the possibility that maybe we are being tricked by the puppet masters.Remember they are the masters of deception.

I too believe he is alive. I will stand by that til the day I die. haha. But you're right...."what if"? It's a HUGE puzzle that we have yet to figure out and there is still yet sooooo much for us to learn ...even outside of the topic of the Illuminati . The owners of that youtube page I described seemed to have so much inside info as for what certain videos meant, and were SO stagnant in their belief that MJ was dead, I was just nearly laughed at when I spoke on MJ being alive. They still spoke with love being of the Muslim belief so that made me feel a bit better and a bit open minded to the fact that the Illuminati could indeed be a part of this hoax. It's always good to keep an open mind to BOTH sides of where things could be coming from. We have to have eyes like a fly....Millions of visions. haha.  :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :? 8-)
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 01:47:14 AM
You want to say you are mature for your age. Good for you or may be not for different reasons. But that's off the topic. What is your theory of hoax and its connection to illuminati, and who are they in relation to Michael?

I prefer not to say whether or not I think he's alive at this point. But I will say, we all agree that the Illuminati have supreme elite powers, right? They control whatever they want. Everything from cartoons to the music industry. So it makes sense that they could control the judicial system. I think we all agree there was something funny going on in court. But why would Michael Jackson be able to alter the judicial system to make a fake court case for himself? But on the other hand, we appear to be getting "clues" from people who should be way closer to Michael than the Illuminati. It's all controversy and I believe it's like that on purpose. I don't want to focus on this, though because I think at this point it's all about personal intuition. And nobody can change someones intuition.

Ok, I'm going to be as flat out and short as possible.
Your question: "What is your theory of hoax and its connection the illuminati and who are they in relation to Michael?"

Michael was a already huge threat to the Illuminati.

He exposed their racism in a his 2002 Harlem speech.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7WP4prIwUQ[/youtube]

Even before that, Part 2 of Black or White (which was cut out of the official music video) was his way of breaking free from them.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e3CAN6VWgE[/youtube]

I'm sure you've seen both these videos and you probably know there are sooo many more out there. He broke free and it infuriated them. They went to extreme lengths to get the public against him, using the media. I know you know what I'm talking about. Then on the "This Is It" tour he planned to "expose the world's biggest kept secret." They definitely couldn't have that so they decided it was time to exterminate him. And maybe he did out think them. He said before he out thought Sony, and that Tommy Mottola was the devil. Jermaine said that Michael was about to convert to Islam. And as you can see from what @2good2btrue posted. Michael contacted the NOI for help. The Illuminati's number one priority is probably demonizing Islam / Muslims. (9/11) They HATE them. The Illuminati are racists. I also believe they also set up Princess Diana's car crash. She was going to marry a Muslim man. The Illuminati couldn't have a Muslim child in their blood line if they had children. They also knew that more people would accept Muslims if Princess Diana married him. Micheal knew this. That's it in a tiny little nutshell. I have so much I could explain but you just asked my theory so I thought I'd keep it basic for now at least. May I ask what you think about all this?




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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 01:52:25 AM
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I really like the way you mediate and think. Your aura so far is very refreshing about the topic because I'm starting to observe that some on here aren't even really entitled to their OWN opinion without getting called out on it or cyberly jumped on . It's a serious conversation piece and research but shouldn't be serious  to the point where offensiveness takes place. We should ALL be in this TOGETHER as MJ would want it...as ONE. It's all for L.O.V.E. and that's the way we should speak to each other....with love. :) So thanks for the fact on that matter. And thanks for being so persistent and optimistic about your pursuit of exposing the evil doers in this case. #Welcome! bearhug 

Thank you very much! I agree 100%, we are one.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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I really like the way you mediate and think. Your aura so far is very refreshing about the topic because I'm starting to observe that some on here aren't even really entitled to their OWN opinion without getting called out on it or cyberly jumped on . It's a serious conversation piece and research but shouldn't be serious  to the point where offensiveness takes place. We should ALL be in this TOGETHER as MJ would want it...as ONE. It's all for L.O.V.E. and that's the way we should speak to each other....with love. :) So thanks for the fact on that matter. And thanks for being so persistent and optimistic about your pursuit of exposing the evil doers in this case. #Welcome! bearhug 

Thank you very much! I agree 100%, we are one.

 bearhug


You're very welcome.  ::P Keep on keepin on.
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 02:06:37 AM
You want to say you are mature for your age. Good for you or may be not for different reasons. But that's off the topic. What is your theory of hoax and its connection to illuminati, and who are they in relation to Michael?

I prefer not to say whether or not I think he's alive at this point. But I will say, we all agree that the Illuminati have supreme elite powers, right? They control whatever they want. Everything from cartoons to the music industry. So it makes sense that they could control the judicial system. I think we all agree there was something funny going on in court. But why would Michael Jackson be able to alter the judicial system to make a fake court case for himself? But on the other hand, we appear to be getting "clues" from people who should be way closer to Michael than the Illuminati. It's all controversy and I believe it's like that on purpose. I don't want to focus on this, though because I think at this point it's all about personal intuition. And nobody can change someones intuition.

Ok, I'm going to be as flat out and short as possible.
Your question: "What is your theory of hoax and its connection the illuminati and who are they in relation to Michael?"

Michael was a already huge threat to the Illuminati.

He exposed their racism in a his 2002 Harlem speech.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7WP4prIwUQ[/youtube]

Even before that, Part 2 of Black or White (which was cut out of the official music video) was his way of breaking free from them.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e3CAN6VWgE[/youtube]

I'm sure you've seen both these videos and you probably know there are sooo many more out there. He broke free and it infuriated them. They went to extreme lengths to get the public against him, using the media. I know you know what I'm talking about. Then on the "This Is It" tour he planned to "expose the world's biggest kept secret." They definitely couldn't have that so they decided it was time to exterminate him. And maybe he did out think them. He said before he out thought Sony, and that Tommy Mottola was the devil. Jermaine said that Michael was about to convert to Islam. And as you can see from what @2good2btrue posted. Michael contacted the NOI for help. The Illuminati's number one priority is probably demonizing Islam / Muslims. (9/11) They HATE them. The Illuminati are racists. I also believe they also set up Princess Diana's car crash. She was going to marry a Muslim man. The Illuminati couldn't have a Muslim child in their blood line if they had children. They also knew that more people would accept Muslims if Princess Diana married him. Micheal knew this. That's it in a tiny little nutshell. I have so much I could explain but you just asked my theory so I thought I'd keep it basic for now at least. May I ask what you think about all this?


You're right about how the Illuminati feels about ppl in the middle east (Islam). Farrakahn(sp) spoke on this matter during a radio interview saying (not verbatim) how it's their agenda to make Islamic ppl look like the enemy....Now Idk about all of the FACTS so don't judge me to whomever is reading this but he also says that  Gadaffi (sp) was actually trying to help build up Libia but yet and still they portrayed him to be the enemy. I still have yet to do my research on that matter, but I wouldn't doubt that it makes any sense ....Dave Chappelle has also spoken on how the Illuminati is using the "blk man" as the puppet hence the reason that some songs end up being an influence and contributing to blk on blk crime. I'm not saying that other races aren't involved and aren't un aware of the illuminati's tactics and hidden agendas. It can happen to anyone...so pls don't get me wrong.  It's so much politics involved it's not even funny....IT'S SCARY!

I just saw a video maybe two days ago explaining how a lot of these politicians have an agenda to kill off the lower and middle class....so it can be nothing but the rich rich rich. This is geared towards certain countries(genocide), and of course certain classes, races, religions, etc.

The medical practices are brainwashed (some) ....obviously, and then some. To be honest, before I even opened my eyes about this hoax and the reason behind it, I haven't been to the doctor in a year due to a personal experience which was nearly deadly but I won't elaborate too much. But I found out then, ppl don't care now a days, and this is a HUGE wake up call....that was a huge wake up call.
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 02:47:00 AM
So we have Jermaines thoughts...."If MJ had embraced Allah, became a Muslim, he still would be alive now...."

Thome Thome is a NOI, so was his nanny Grace..as is Rev. Al Sharpton.

Debbie Rowe is Jewish, so Michaels children are half Jewish !!....How does this all fit in???

I have a thought...You know how the main dancers are going around the world, dancing the Drill, as a way to continue Michaels message, well this drill is so like  NOI's drill.  This drill is about POWER, and FAITH.   

I always thought this was the purpose of it....especially the prison one TDRCAU version.  "Who" is "THEY" ??

Farrakhan really drums this in...."They" wanted his catalogue...his Legacy...

Was it Leonard Rowe that rang L. Farrakhan??  Asking him to do something to help MJ ??  He only signed for 10 concerts, but woke up to find out he is doing 50 !!

Zionest Jews and the bankers....Joe Jackson hints to "Follow the money"...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs[/youtube]

For those who haven't read it, I highly recommend reading the blog

http://mindcontrolblackassassinswordpress.com/
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 02:54:53 AM by 2good2btrue »

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 04:04:11 AM
So we have Jermaines thoughts...."If MJ had embraced Allah, became a Muslim, he still would be alive now...."

Thome Thome is a NOI, so was his nanny Grace..as is Rev. Al Sharpton.

Debbie Rowe is Jewish, so Michaels children are half Jewish !!....How does this all fit in???

I have a thought...You know how the main dancers are going around the world, dancing the Drill, as a way to continue Michaels message, well this drill is so like  NOI's drill.  This drill is about POWER, and FAITH.   

I always thought this was the purpose of it....especially the prison one TDRCAU version.  "Who" is "THEY" ??

Farrakhan really drums this in...."They" wanted his catalogue...his Legacy...

Was it Leonard Rowe that rang L. Farrakhan??  Asking him to do something to help MJ ??  He only signed for 10 concerts, but woke up to find out he is doing 50 !!

Zionest Jews and the bankers....Joe Jackson hints to "Follow the money"...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs[/youtube]

For those who haven't read it, I highly recommend reading the blog

http://mindcontrolblackassassinswordpress.com/


I had no idea Tohme Tohme was a NOI. Thx for informing !:). I watched the video and I notice how they performed a step show. I also noticed how they paid homage to the Elijah Muhammad.Speaking  Elijah Muhammad, I am very opinionated about him but I won't elaborate . I will say that Malcom X found out the genuine and TRUE meaning of being a Muslim hence the reason why they(the illuminati ) had him killed. Puppets...blk on blk crime. I also know that the illuminati /freemasons founded fraternities and that's how fraternities came to be. If you notice, hazing now a days is becoming quite deadly. Take the incident that happened within the past couple of wks for instance.

Anyway, I also noticed that MJ was indeed inspired by the step/marching hence the reason why it was used in his concerts and music videos. Everything from the chants to choreography is all done in unison ....As ONE. Gotta love it!!!!
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 04:07:19 AM by alfarle »
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 04:53:43 AM
- Regarding my last comment, you can take it how u want to take it. It was not directed at anyoneone else but to the topic starter. -

Siggy Jackson has a YouTube account named  Jackson Truth Media and he interviews Chuck D, for you who don't know who he is, he is/was a part of the music group Public Enemy.

I'd say, do ur research on them and download their music and have a listen to their messages.
They warn about the manipulations, governments (those behind the governments) nwo and other things.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 04, 2011, 06:53:32 AM
Quote Alfarle:
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We have to have eyes like a fly....Millions of visions. haha.  :geek: :geek: :shock: :shock: :? 8-) 8-) :| :? :geek:
:lol: and I add some more visions:
 8-)  bounce/ :cry: ;) :shock: :lol: :x :mrgreen: pale/ :roll: :twisted: :geek: 8-) /overreacting/ suspicious// :geek:  geek/ :| 

which I respect respect/ , and although there has been made a lot of valuable researches on this forum about NWO, illuminati and other theories, new visions or visions from another perspective are much appreciated by me. I'll add your vision and research to the other illuminati theories in order to make up my (open) mind. So empyreal, thanks for your interesting thread and keep it goin'!

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 05, 2011, 12:47:54 AM
You want to say you are mature for your age. Good for you or may be not for different reasons. But that's off the topic. What is your theory of hoax and its connection to illuminati, and who are they in relation to Michael?

I prefer not to say whether or not I think he's alive at this point. But I will say, we all agree that the Illuminati have supreme elite powers, right? They control whatever they want. Everything from cartoons to the music industry. So it makes sense that they could control the judicial system. I think we all agree there was something funny going on in court. But why would Michael Jackson be able to alter the judicial system to make a fake court case for himself? But on the other hand, we appear to be getting "clues" from people who should be way closer to Michael than the Illuminati. It's all controversy and I believe it's like that on purpose. I don't want to focus on this, though because I think at this point it's all about personal intuition. And nobody can change someones intuition.

Ok, I'm going to be as flat out and short as possible.
Your question: "What is your theory of hoax and its connection the illuminati and who are they in relation to Michael?"

Michael was a already huge threat to the Illuminati.

I'm sure you've seen both these videos and you probably know there are sooo many more out there. He broke free and it infuriated them. They went to extreme lengths to get the public against him, using the media. I know you know what I'm talking about. Then on the "This Is It" tour he planned to "expose the world's biggest kept secret." They definitely couldn't have that so they decided it was time to exterminate him. And maybe he did out think them. He said before he out thought Sony, and that Tommy Mottola was the devil. Jermaine said that Michael was about to convert to Islam. And as you can see from what @2good2btrue posted. Michael contacted the NOI for help. The Illuminati's number one priority is probably demonizing Islam / Muslims. (9/11) They HATE them. The Illuminati are racists. I also believe they also set up Princess Diana's car crash. She was going to marry a Muslim man. The Illuminati couldn't have a Muslim child in their blood line if they had children. They also knew that more people would accept Muslims if Princess Diana married him. Micheal knew this. That's it in a tiny little nutshell. I have so much I could explain but you just asked my theory so I thought I'd keep it basic for now at least. May I ask what you think about all this?

My theory as of now is that Murray, the fall guy, was ordered to kill Michael by don't know whom. But what could also has happened is Michael was either saved in UCLA then escaped, or Murray told MJ about planned assassination and helped him to escape.  I tend to think Murray tried to kill MJ. I have hard time to believe MJ is dead based on many facts including clues from family and himself in TII.
I am sceptical about extreme power of Illuminati and that Michael was danger for them. Michael was bravely & openly talking/singing about global social problems as well as his own personal ones. But I think there is rather money issues involved in connection to AEG and someone else. Manager Tomy Mottola was Michael's prpoblem who was then fired by Sony.

Princess Di crash was arranged by the queen (if she is illuminati as well then you can say so).

What do you mean by " MJ was going to expose the world's biggest kept secret on TII."? What secret, New World Order? It has not been a secret for many years. Any other secret?

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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My theory as of now is that Murray, the fall guy, was ordered to kill Michael by don't know whom. But what could also has happened is Michael was either saved in UCLA then escaped, or Murray told MJ about planned assassination and helped him to escape.  I tend to think Murray tried to kill MJ. I have hard time to believe MJ is dead based on many facts including clues from family and himself in TII.
I am sceptical about extreme power of Illuminati and that Michael was danger for them. Michael was bravely & openly talking/singing about global social problems as well as his own personal ones. But I think there is rather money issues involved in connection to AEG and someone else. Manager Tomy Mottola was Michael's prpoblem who was then fired by Sony.

Princess Di crash was arranged by the queen (if she is illuminati as well then you can say so).

What do you mean by " MJ was going to expose the world's biggest kept secret on TII."? What secret, New World Order? It has not been a secret for many years. Any other secret?




I'm not sure what exactly he planned to expose. He said in one of his speeches that it was time to expose one of the world's biggest kept secrets. It could be a number of things. You're right, the Illuminati/NWO aren't secrets. They expose themselves to a certain extent using symbolism and subconscious messages. But a lot of their agenda is still a secret. And a lot of people get attacked by the media and called crazy "conspiracy theorists" for talking about it. So my guess is, they have a lot of things they have to keep secret. If Michael planned to expose these secrets to millions of influential fans, then he probably was in danger. We out number them by the billions. We're a HUGE threat to them but only if we know what they're doing. One of my first theories was that he was going to warn people about 2012. I read in an interview a while back that Michael was becoming increasingly interested and "almost obsessed" with the Mayan calendar and 2012. Then of course there's that scene from This Is It that many people thought was related to 2012.

And yes. Queen Elizabeth is definitely Illuminati. I don't go around saying everyone is "Illuminati." There are only a select few but I'm definitely sure that she is. No doubt she orchestrated the whole Princess Diana incident.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 05, 2011, 05:41:20 AM
So we have Jermaines thoughts...."If MJ had embraced Allah, became a Muslim, he still would be alive now...."

Thome Thome is a NOI, so was his nanny Grace..as is Rev. Al Sharpton.

Debbie Rowe is Jewish, so Michaels children are half Jewish !!....How does this all fit in???

I have a thought...You know how the main dancers are going around the world, dancing the Drill, as a way to continue Michaels message, well this drill is so like  NOI's drill.  This drill is about POWER, and FAITH.   

I always thought this was the purpose of it....especially the prison one TDRCAU version.  "Who" is "THEY" ??

Farrakhan really drums this in...."They" wanted his catalogue...his Legacy...

Was it Leonard Rowe that rang L. Farrakhan??  Asking him to do something to help MJ ??  He only signed for 10 concerts, but woke up to find out he is doing 50 !!

Zionest Jews and the bankers....Joe Jackson hints to "Follow the money"...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs[/youtube]

For those who haven't read it, I highly recommend reading the blog

http://mindcontrolblackassassinswordpress.com/

Since when did Al Sharpton become a Muslim? Also, Judaism is a faith/religion.  Debbie Rowe converted to Judaism from Catholicism, so whatever she is has little bearing on the children.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 05, 2011, 06:34:46 AM
So we have Jermaines thoughts...."If MJ had embraced Allah, became a Muslim, he still would be alive now...."

Thome Thome is a NOI, so was his nanny Grace..as is Rev. Al Sharpton.

Debbie Rowe is Jewish, so Michaels children are half Jewish !!....How does this all fit in???

I have a thought...You know how the main dancers are going around the world, dancing the Drill, as a way to continue Michaels message, well this drill is so like  NOI's drill.  This drill is about POWER, and FAITH.   

I always thought this was the purpose of it....especially the prison one TDRCAU version.  "Who" is "THEY" ??

Farrakhan really drums this in...."They" wanted his catalogue...his Legacy...

Was it Leonard Rowe that rang L. Farrakhan??  Asking him to do something to help MJ ??  He only signed for 10 concerts, but woke up to find out he is doing 50 !!

Zionest Jews and the bankers....Joe Jackson hints to "Follow the money"...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogn4a7phOSs[/youtube]

For those who haven't read it, I highly recommend reading the blog

http://mindcontrolblackassassinswordpress.com/

Since when did Al Sharpton become a Muslim? Also, Judaism is a faith/religion.  Debbie Rowe converted to Judaism from Catholicism, so whatever she is has little bearing on the children.

Sharrton is a Nation of Islam follower, not a Muslim.  I believe that is a different religion...

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 06:42:25 AM
This is REALLY starting to bug the brains out of me but I have seen more than one youtube vid and have been told PERSONALLY more than ONCE that this whole hoax was planned by the Illuminati as a distraction...and for some reason, I'm starting to become a bit skeptic as to what's really going on. If this is indeed a tactic to distract us hoaxers into finding out what the truth really is, then the Illuminati are still some failures because they're still being exposed for the demons that they really are whether MJ is "dead" or not.

Why would they use something like this to distract those who love him and even those who are unaware of this whole scenario? :( I just don't get it anymore. I've been on this whole Illuminati mentality thing since I came on this forum, yet and still I'm a bit confused. I know his fam stresses the fact that MJ was "murdered". Well LaToya and Jermaine anyway.

I've been told that the Illuminati is just using Murray as a cover up, I've been told that the Illuminati made the Michael CD cover with "clues", I've been told many things that make sense ....to an extent. (SIGH) I'm going 2 sleep now. Feedback any1????

Is it the Illuminati that's creating this "illusion" or is it Michael himself????
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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There are 2 possible scenarios for me:

1) Michael Jackson really pissed off the Illuminati and knew he was going to be killed so he faked his death to expose them. If this is the case then I believe all the other theories come in to play... For example if Michael just held a press conference to expose the Illuminati would the general public believe him? I think not... however I think the general public would believe him if he came back from the dead and produced a movie where the Illuminati are exposed. Furthermore to pull of such an illusion a double would be required.

2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.


 

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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I believe in nr 2
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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There are 2 possible scenarios for me:

1) Michael Jackson really pissed off the Illuminati and knew he was going to be killed so he faked his death to expose them. If this is the case then I believe all the other theories come in to play... For example if Michael just held a press conference to expose the Illuminati would the general public believe him? I think not... however I think the general public would believe him if he came back from the dead and produced a movie where the Illuminati are exposed. Furthermore to pull of such an illusion a double would be required.

2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.

Wow....so they think  either way that we're too dumb to seek the truth?! I see. Those are great theories. I hope the first one you said was correct. I just wonder why his kids don't really seem too disturbed. I mean Idk ....I don't know them personally or anything but I know if my dad had just been murdered, I would have to go to therapy or something. Especially being at that age. Seems like the media would report that the kids are going to therapy of some sort. Shortly after his "death" , Joe Jackson stated that the kids were FINE! That to me was strange. Very strange.

Secondly, I'm still wondering why none of his family members won't say anything confirming that us beLIEvers are wrong. I know they know of our theories and such....and if they felt that anyone was disrespecting the "death" of their brother, wouldn't they speak on it? Especially Jermaine since he's the main one to confront such matters?

Thirdly, what's with all of the clues that his family gives out not only about the Illuminati, but about MJ being alive? Would the Illuminati be controlling them as well or are they really speaking of MJ as just a spiritual existence ? I'm more confused than ever since that was my 3rd or more time hearing about the Illuminati being the ones to fool us beLIEvers into thinking MJ is really alive. The Illuminati has more than enough money and ctrl to control the media into creating up something staged for ppl to believe. It's scary beyond belief! That's why so many ppl are stagnant in believing that he's really gone regardless of the inconsistencies within the court case and all of that . Ugh.... /pull hair/ /scream/ Every time I feel like I've gotten somewhere within this whole scenario, I sometimes feel like I'm back @ square one with things. I guess that means I have to dig deeper and find out more. Keep moving fwd.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 11:53:09 AM
There are 2 possible scenarios for me:

1) Michael Jackson really pissed off the Illuminati and knew he was going to be killed so he faked his death to expose them. If this is the case then I believe all the other theories come in to play... For example if Michael just held a press conference to expose the Illuminati would the general public believe him? I think not... however I think the general public would believe him if he came back from the dead and produced a movie where the Illuminati are exposed. Furthermore to pull of such an illusion a double would be required.

2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.


 

I'm with No. 1 and I agree these really are the only two possibilities, though I initially believed the first. 

As to what he was trying to expose, a very interesting story surfaced, which was later denied, right after MJ died, in connection to a woman named James Burgermeister who filed suit against the WHO for genocide.  She asserted that there was a conspiracy to eradicate 90% of the 'useless eaters' partly through the use of vaccines.  It was rumored after MJ died that he was going to announce this plot at one of his concerts and that he was somehow behind this woman. 

She, of course, denied any connection, but I have always wondered at the incredible bravery of a complete unknown to take on the WHO by herself.  Did she have help?  Was that 'rumor' deliberately planted? 

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Maybe I’m just hard headed, but I still say that I cannot believe with all the clues Michael had given that he would not have been protected to the nines from the illuminati being able to get to him and snuff him out.  Michael was no fool.  Yeah, he came off to those who never took the time to study him as being naive and not in control.  But anyone who knows how Michael studies and masters everything and everybody would know he was a shrewd intelligent man.  If he knew that he was in danger, he didn’t timidly just sit there and not make it known that he needed an out and not make all the necessary preparations to get one.  Like he said about Sony, they didn’t know that this entertainer could out think them.  He did it once, I know he could and would do it again.  I have to give him that much credit at least.  He had the means and he had the intelligence to see through the bullshit and strategize his way free of it.  The only way Michael would be dead is if his own inner circle played a part in it and sold him out.  Who do you think would do that?  His security? His family? His personal assistant? His household staff?  Who?  I’m just a bit curious to know. Maybe Karen Faye?  Who?
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 12:24:19 PM
There are 2 possible scenarios for me:

1) Michael Jackson really pissed off the Illuminati and knew he was going to be killed so he faked his death to expose them. If this is the case then I believe all the other theories come in to play... For example if Michael just held a press conference to expose the Illuminati would the general public believe him? I think not... however I think the general public would believe him if he came back from the dead and produced a movie where the Illuminati are exposed. Furthermore to pull of such an illusion a double would be required.

2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.
This.It has to be one or the other.The fact that HLN and In Session televised the trial,makes me a little skeptical about M.J being behind this.The Illuminati control HLN,so are they helping M.J with the hoax?I agree with the double theory,i don't see how he could have pulled of a hoax without a stand in double.The family knows what happened,maybe they need to stop with the clues,and give us straight up answers.   
MJ u are so beautiful,inside and out,u truly are a gift from God.I love u,brother.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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There are 2 possible scenarios for me:

1) Michael Jackson really pissed off the Illuminati and knew he was going to be killed so he faked his death to expose them. If this is the case then I believe all the other theories come in to play... For example if Michael just held a press conference to expose the Illuminati would the general public believe him? I think not... however I think the general public would believe him if he came back from the dead and produced a movie where the Illuminati are exposed. Furthermore to pull of such an illusion a double would be required.

2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.

Hy Good-old -navi  :) !!!! If I say that "I LIKE" the second scenario,will you be kind enough to respond to my question???
Why in the hell ,Illuminati crap will CARE ABOUT THE FANS and more, to even make for US THE FANS  :mrgreen: ,FAKE CLUES???????? The RICH  Illuminati crap doesen't care about anyone,not about fans,not about poor people and not about Michael for sure. Thank you ,take care  :) !!!!


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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Hi empyreal. What an interesting username you have.


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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 01:16:26 PM
@applehead

Please, how can u not see that the illuminati doesn't give a crap about anyone else but themselves?
They don't give u clues, u see what u want to see.
They don't care about u.
They care about money, power and control.

You are playing their game.
Ignorance.

It is one thing to believe he is alive and looking for proof that he is, and also hoping he is alive.
But if this is the only, the ONLY, thing u believe and can't see how this whole thing works into the whole illuminati manipulation concept, that u believe in every little thing u see and hear and read to be a clue somehow connected to Michael Jackson death hoax, u r right in the middle of the manipulation game.

This whole universe and beyond are all "built up in"  numbers, so everything and all is connected through numbers.
The universal language is numbers.

Everyone should do their own research within all subjects before coming to one conclusion, it might be many more than just one.
No one will ever believe something just because someone says it, and u shouldn't, look it up urself. Digg deep, even in those subject u don't like, feel frightened about and make u sick to ur stumache. It must be looked at.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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@applehead

Please, how can u not see that the illuminati doesn't give a crap about anyone else but themselves?
They don't give u clues, u see what u want to see.
They don't care about u.
They care about money, power and control.

You are playing their game.
Ignorance.

It is one thing to believe he is alive and looking for proof that he is, and also hoping he is alive.
But if this is the only, the ONLY, thing u believe and can't see how this whole thing works into the whole illuminati manipulation concept, that u believe in every little thing u see and hear and read to be a clue somehow connected to Michael Jackson death hoax, u r right in the middle of the manipulation game.

This whole universe and beyond are all "built up in"  numbers, so everything and all is connected through numbers.
The universal language is numbers.

Everyone should do their own research within all subjects before coming to one conclusion, it might be many more than just one.
No one will ever believe something just because someone says it, and u shouldn't, look it up urself. Digg deep, even in those subject u don't like, feel frightened about and make u sick to ur stumache. It must be looked at.


Thank you very much Magic !!! Yes I'm IGNORANT as you say,and yes I'm childlike to not beLIEve all this CRAP  geek/ !!! I prefert to be IGNORANT and in the same time POSITIVE.And no thank you I don't feel like trow up or to have sick from my stomach,becasue I just ate my dinner  :mrgreen: !!! I prefer to believe in ME and in the POWER OF LOVE,and nothing more thank you.The NEGATIVE part I will let to the people who want to feel sick at stomach and be frightened .
I'm telling you when all this HOAX will be revealed ,you will understand PERFECT what I'm talking about here and who knows maybe we will have a good laugh together  :lol: Take care  :)

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 02:10:53 PM
@apple

To know the truth all truths need to be explored and understood, even the negative. After that it is up to each one of us to chose the path, positive or negative. Awareness and knowledge are important in life. - My opinion -


But then we agree to disagree  /white flag/
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 03:51:17 PM
Alright let me clear a few things up quick.

1. I'm not claiming to be a Miss/Mr X. Haha I'm just a regular 17 year old.
2. I'm a newbie to this account. But I'm certainly no newbie to the information I've been studying since I was 13. (Illuminati, NWO) When the news said Michael died I instantly wanted to figure out what happened, because instinctively I thought of the Illuminati first. I've only lurked this forum for a few months, though.
3. I feel bad that the people who have been here a long time are getting offended. I don't want any tension all I wanted to do is start an group where everyone has a common denominator to work on. Where there would be no "he's alive / he's dead" fights.

These people either killed Michael or they're after him. Don't you want to just get to the bottom of it? I know for a fact that I don't like these people. I want them exposed. I want the whole world to know. Let's pretend we're all equal on this forum. Pretend we all signed up on exactly the same date. Or we can just forget sign up dates. We can all just work together on this. For Michael and for the world.

You are very intelligent for a young person!  I am glad people like you and Prince, Paris, and others who I know are out there are spreading the word to the younger generation. 

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.


 I 100% agree! That's the exact reason why I've been apprehensive about the whole "he'll BAM by the end  of 2012" theory. Maybe they want us all to hold out until then and it'll end up being too late to do expose what they did. Seems like an ingenious master plan to me.

That's why I've been saying whether he's alive or not we still have the knowledge of what they DID or TRIED to do to him. No matter what side we're on that information makes us one. If we focus on that maybe just maybe we can do this before it's too late. But I can't sit and wait until 2012 knowing what I know.

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You are very intelligent for a young person!  I am glad people like you and Prince, Paris, and others who I know are out there are spreading the word to the younger generation. 


Thank you dear! I agree, a lot of the younger Jacksons are using twitter to share what they know. Especially Paris, she's right on top of things.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.

Well in this case they did a lousy job because there are only a few believers left.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Well in this case they did a lousy job because there are only a few believers left.

There are quite a few. The truest Michael Jackson fans are the believers. The ones who look for the clues and study this non-stop. We're devoted to finding the truth, right? That's why it'd make sense that they'd target these people and make a false truth. A BETTER truth. What would an MJ fan want more than to know he's alive? Do you get what I mean?

There's still a good possibility he's alive though. He out thought them many times before. He knew they were after him. When it comes down to it there's no way of knowing for sure. Your intuition tells you if he's alive or not. But we still all agree on the "Illuminati" theory in one way or another.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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2) Michael Jackson really pissed of the Illuminati so they killed him... and are now creating all these fake clues so that Michael Jackson fans believe he is alive and hence do not seek justice for him being murdered.


 I 100% agree! That's the exact reason why I've been apprehensive about the whole "he'll BAM by the end  of 2012" theory. Maybe they want us all to hold out until then and it'll end up being too late to do expose what they did. Seems like an ingenious master plan to me.

That's why I've been saying whether he's alive or not we still have the knowledge of what they DID or TRIED to do to him. No matter what side we're on that information makes us one. If we focus on that maybe just maybe we can do this before it's too late. But I can't sit and wait until 2012 knowing what I know.

Hy empyreal  :) !!!!! I saw you talk about how to expose what "THEY" did  albino/ !!! Then you talked about "maybe we can do this before it's to late".What exactly do YOU WANT TO DO  :idea:  :? ?????? How can you fix what "THEY" did to him??? "Going" after "them",walk outside on the street and SHOUT after them,or what???? Please try to ILLUMINATE me,because I'm kida confuse here  :?   :shock: !!!!

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Hy empyreal  :) !!!!! I saw you talk about how to expose what "THEY" did  albino/ !!! Then you talked about "maybe we can do this before it's to late".What exactly do YOU WANT TO DO  :idea:  :? ?????? How can you fix what "THEY" did to him??? "Going" after "them",walk outside on the street and SHOUT after them,or what???? Please try to ILLUMINATE me,because I'm kida confuse here  :?   :shock: !!!!

"Handle them carefully, for words have more power than atom bombs."

Look at Martin Luther King and Malcolm X.
They brought nationwide attention to racial hatred before the internet was even invented. All they did was talk.

Look how fast tabloids and media can spread their rumors and lies. They do it with words- that's it!

How do presidents win elections? WORDS.

All we need to do is never stop talking. We have the biggest resource in communication ever created.
I can tell you were mocking me a bit. But that's okay, I don't expect everyone to agree. Someone who stands for nothing will fall for anything. This is what I stand for.
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"Handle them carefully, for words have more power than atom bombs."

Look at Martin Luther King and Malcolm X.
They brought nationwide attention to racial hatred before the internet was even invented. All they did was talk.

Look how fast tabloids and media can spread their rumors and lies. They do it with words- that's it!

How do presidents win elections? WORDS.

you can not be 17.
But it doesn't matter. I like what I quoted above.

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you can not be 17.
But it doesn't matter. I like what I quoted above.

Oh but I am! Haha, thank you though.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Well in this case they did a lousy job because there are only a few believers left.

There are quite a few. The truest Michael Jackson fans are the believers. The ones who look for the clues and study this non-stop. We're devoted to finding the truth, right? That's why it'd make sense that they'd target these people and make a false truth. A BETTER truth. What would an MJ fan want more than to know he's alive? Do you get what I mean?

There's still a good possibility he's alive though. He out thought them many times before. He knew they were after him. When it comes down to it there's no way of knowing for sure. Your intuition tells you if he's alive or not. But we still all agree on the "Illuminati" theory in one way or another.

Exactly... and the truth is maybe a lot of the clues that we do find are not really clues... Sometimes human beings see what they want to see... It's called denial.

Having said that the first time I saw Dave Dave on Larry King Live I saw MJ... So my instincts tell me he is alive.

Another possible scenario is:

3) He faked his death to avoid being killed... but simply does not have enough resources to bring down the Illuminati and such he has been given a new identity where he can live a normal life.
 

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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Maybe I’m just hard headed, but I still say that I cannot believe with all the clues Michael had given that he would not have been protected to the nines from the illuminati being able to get to him and snuff him out.  Michael was no fool.  Yeah, he came off to those who never took the time to study him as being naive and not in control.  But anyone who knows how Michael studies and masters everything and everybody would know he was a shrewd intelligent man.  If he knew that he was in danger, he didn’t timidly just sit there and not make it known that he needed an out and not make all the necessary preparations to get one.  Like he said about Sony, they didn’t know that this entertainer could out think them.  He did it once, I know he could and would do it again.  I have to give him that much credit at least.  He had the means and he had the intelligence to see through the bullshit and strategize his way free of it.  The only way Michael would be dead is if his own inner circle played a part in it and sold him out.  Who do you think would do that?  His security? His family? His personal assistant? His household staff?  Who?  I’m just a bit curious to know. Maybe Karen Faye?  Who?

I totally agree with what you're saying. Sometimes I contemplate the same exact thing. Karen Faye btw is a B**CH. Excuse my usage of the lango but I'm just keeping it 100. lol. Sometimes I wonder if someone in his fam could have sold him out too....perhaps Joe??? He was the ONLY one that I found to be suspicious after MJ "died" . He was laughing when photos were takin of him (standing alongside Jessie Jackson), acted nonchalant during interviews with Larry King, promoted his new company while being interviewed rather than focusing on the "death" of his son. Matter of fact, if MY son had just "DIED", I WOULD NOT be making any appearances at any award shows. I would be investigating the matter down to the LAST wire. So I know this has been discussed before, but something fishy is definitely going on....and I'm more than ever ready to seek the truth because it's been all day and I can't let it go nor fathom the fact that the Illuminati is messing with us beLIEvers. It's a shame.
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Everyone should do their own research within all subjects before coming to one conclusion, it might be many more than just one.
No one will ever believe something just because someone says it, and u shouldn't, look it up urself. Digg deep, even in those subject u don't like, feel frightened about and make u sick to ur stumache. It must be looked at.

You're absolutely right. That's the reason why I'm questioning what the deal really is because curiosity killed the cat when I clicked on a video yesterday that was speaking with L.O.V.E on how the Illuminati is definitely messing with us. I would post it but I don't want to upset anyone within this forum. Some of the info makes you go Hmmmmm.... Regardless of MJ , I'm glad that I'm being informed of these evil ppl who are nothing but the devils b***hes. Don't they know that if they sell their soul to the devil that when they die and leave this earth, they have no superior place in hell? They're going to burn w/gasoline undies on just like all of the other doomed souls that the devil punishes. He's just using the Illuminati ....in spite of the fact that God kicked him out of Heaven for trying to out do him. The most beautiful angel in Heaven turned out to be the worst thing in hell and on earth. May God bless us all.   
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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I agree, Michael wouldn't sit back and let it happen. There are way too many options and theories. That's why I shifted my investigations completely over to the Illuminati. Almost everyone on here agrees they were involved in some way. The family tells us constantly "Murray is the fall guy", "There's more involved", etc. So if Michael is safe somewhere then he completely turned the cards on the Illuminati, and he's the one framing them this time. (With the help of his family)

 /bravo/


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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 11:13:51 PM
My questions were rhetorical because I don’t believe he was sold out by any of those people.  I believe he got away and is living somewhere obscurely waiting and watching until it’s safe for him to come out from hiding.  I don’t know that he feels it the greatest necessity as an end to the means to reveal himself in a big way.  I’ve always been of the opinion that he will not make the big bam.  Michael has never been one to make a fuss over his accomplishments of which this one would be humongous.  But in some way what ever he decides to do will be so monumental and so phenomenal that we will know with some certainty that he is surely behind it.  Don’t have a clue what that would be, but I believe in some way he will give those who believe in him enough the sure signs that he is here and he is making his mark. 

As for the illuminati playing with our minds, they could be.  But if they are its not because they want to keep us in the dark but more because they don’t want us to continue investigate, learn about and spotlight them and their ways of handling things and people whom they have vendettas against.  Remember they are a hidden society doing all of their dirt in the dark, shielded away from prying eyes.  How dare we talk openly about them.  They are to be feared and whispered about in the shadows, certainly not openly.  That we accuse them of being outsmarted is surely enough for them to feel a little disturbed.  Maybe they just want us to shut up.  Just a thought.
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 10, 2011, 11:21:20 PM

As for the illuminati playing with our minds, they could be.  But if they are its not because they want to keep us in the dark but more because they don’t want us to continue investigate, learn about and spotlight them and their ways of handling things and people whom they have vendettas against.  Remember they are a hidden society doing all of their dirt in the dark, shielded away from prying eyes.  How dare we talk openly about them.  They are to be feared and whispered about in the shadows, certainly not openly.  That we accuse them of being outsmarted is surely enough for them to feel a little disturbed.  Maybe they just want us to shut up.  Just a thought.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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As for the illuminati playing with our minds, they could be.  But if they are its not because they want to keep us in the dark but more because they don’t want us to continue investigate, learn about and spotlight them and their ways of handling things and people whom they have vendettas against.  Remember they are a hidden society doing all of their dirt in the dark, shielded away from prying eyes.  How dare we talk openly about them.  They are to be feared and whispered about in the shadows, certainly not openly.  That we accuse them of being outsmarted is surely enough for them to feel a little disturbed.  Maybe they just want us to shut up.  Just a thought.

You could be right. :) If we keep silent about them and their agendas, then they've basically won ctrl over us. I'm sure they know of ppl speaking out on them publicly due to the fact that there are many youtubers who make videos on them. I am almost more than certain they're behind youtube as well company wise. Especially with the fact that youtube is branched up with Google. 
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

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You could be right. :) If we keep silent about them and their agendas, then they've basically won ctrl over us. I'm sure they know of ppl speaking out on them publicly due to the fact that there are many youtubers who make videos on them. I am almost more than certain they're behind youtube as well company wise. Especially with the fact that youtube is branched up with Google. 

Oh yeah most definitely. Youtube is constantly taking down videos that expose or criticize too much.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 12:30:41 AM
Hi @empy-real!
God bless u for your great name and deep researches- welcome to the explorers land!@
  Such a  HOT   spot we standing on now - time 2 take of our shoes as it is Holy ground (Arh. Michael) ')
ok@ to the point of discussion - as i KNOW that MJ is survive, my battle is laying on the field  of IS he wl b Back or not.
It Is important not just for personal reason but also on How the guideline of our mission should b shifted on- because its Not a game but reality of OUR children future is depending on.
Althrough i believe that L.O.V.E. is conquer all - the fact of "killing/dead Michael" - which is scenario of Nonecomingback is equal to - leave us in the World  of TOTAL Unjustice in whole physical and metaphysical levels and really left NO room for brave souls to fight and win.

In my case- im stand on battle ground anyway, but Michaels "hiding 4ever " just left all my trying in vaine.
Its truly sad, especially as its felts lately that MJ's children are taken frontline & the Man is  hide behind them.

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 12:43:37 AM
Hi @empy-real!
God bless u for your great name and deep researches- welcome to the explorers land!@
  Such a  HOT   spot we standing on now - time 2 take of our shoes as it is Holy ground (Arh. Michael) ')
ok@ to the point of discussion - as i KNOW that MJ is survive, my battle is laying on the field  of IS he wl b Back or not.
It Is important not just for personal reason but also on How the guideline of our mission should b shifted on- because its Not a game but reality of OUR children future is depending on.
Althrough i believe that L.O.V.E. is conquer all - the fact of "killing/dead Michael" - which is scenario of Nonecomingback is equal to - leave us in the World  of TOTAL Unjustice in whole physical and metaphysical levels and really left NO room for brave souls to fight and win.

In my case- im stand on battle ground anyway, but Michaels "hiding 4ever " just left all my trying in vaine.
Its truly sad, especially as its felts lately that MJ's children are taken frontline & the Man is  hide behind them.


Thank you for the kind words : )
I don't think we'll ever know ahead of time if he's coming back. That's why instead of just waiting I'm taking on the one thing I know is consistent. Who knows, maybe he's counting on us to expose them so he can come back without feeling threatened.

God bless!
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 02:12:04 AM
Oh @empyreal- you such a good thinker@@.
Thank u for encouragement!!
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 10:44:26 AM
Hi @empy-real!
God bless u for your great name and deep researches- welcome to the explorers land!@
  Such a  HOT   spot we standing on now - time 2 take of our shoes as it is Holy ground (Arh. Michael) ')
ok@ to the point of discussion - as i KNOW that MJ is survive, my battle is laying on the field  of IS he wl b Back or not.
It Is important not just for personal reason but also on How the guideline of our mission should b shifted on- because its Not a game but reality of OUR children future is depending on.
Althrough i believe that L.O.V.E. is conquer all - the fact of "killing/dead Michael" - which is scenario of Nonecomingback is equal to - leave us in the World  of TOTAL Unjustice in whole physical and metaphysical levels and really left NO room for brave souls to fight and win.

In my case- im stand on battle ground anyway, but Michaels "hiding 4ever " just left all my trying in vaine.
Its truly sad, especially as its felts lately that MJ's children are taken frontline & the Man is  hide behind them.


Thank you for the kind words : )
I don't think we'll ever know ahead of time if he's coming back. That's why instead of just waiting I'm taking on the one thing I know is consistent. Who knows, maybe he's counting on us to expose them so he can come back without feeling threatened.

God bless!
 bearhug

Surely he is and he knows that if and when he comes back that he can count on us to have his back so things never get back to the way they were before he left.  We are his eyes, his ears, and his voice.  I do believe he will befriend this forum and come to count on us in a major way.  At least I certainly hope so.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 11:13:27 AM
One of the greatest fear of these people is that the Truth is known by a majority. So I agree that we must never stop spreading the truth even if just in this forum because a lot of people are reading. We must stay aware, alert and keep on searching. Words are powerful because they're the Truth's vehicle and ultimately all forms of communication. No wonder they have taken over the media, it's one of their biggest asset because thanks to their controlling it, they control the thinking, the knowledge and hence freedom by manipulating, twisting, misinforming, lying, etc.
We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 12:56:14 PM
I can still see Michael’s face, that stance, and hear him saying “I just did good business”.  Damn, gives me chills. He was cold fronting, as well he should have.  Just sizzlin and letting it bathe in the moonlight. moonwalk_/   I can imagine he is sitting back doing much the same thing now, allowing things to work themselves out for the good of those who still, even now, believe in his ability to do so.  The pieces are going to fall into place. That’s the natural order of things. If it goes up, it will come tumbling down, sooner or later.  The illuminati is not immune though they have been for a long time.  Eventually, even they will be found out (which has already begun) and dismantled. Look at the way the media handles Michael now.  Huge, noticeable difference.  Makes me wonder if maybe the televised trial was to accomplish this.  Whether it was or not, it did, and that’s a big plus.  I pray every night that Michael in doing what he has to do will not be harmed because of nor as a result of it.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 01:01:03 PM by hesouttamylife »
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 11, 2011, 03:11:36 PM
Hi @empy-real!
God bless u for your great name and deep researches- welcome to the explorers land!@
  Such a  HOT   spot we standing on now - time 2 take of our shoes as it is Holy ground (Arh. Michael) ')
ok@ to the point of discussion - as i KNOW that MJ is survive, my battle is laying on the field  of IS he wl b Back or not.
It Is important not just for personal reason but also on How the guideline of our mission should b shifted on- because its Not a game but reality of OUR children future is depending on.
Althrough i believe that L.O.V.E. is conquer all - the fact of "killing/dead Michael" - which is scenario of Nonecomingback is equal to - leave us in the World  of TOTAL Unjustice in whole physical and metaphysical levels and really left NO room for brave souls to fight and win.

In my case- im stand on battle ground anyway, but Michaels "hiding 4ever " just left all my trying in vaine.
Its truly sad, especially as its felts lately that MJ's children are taken frontline & the Man is  hide behind them.


Thank you for the kind words : )
I don't think we'll ever know ahead of time if he's coming back. That's why instead of just waiting I'm taking on the one thing I know is consistent. Who knows, maybe he's counting on us to expose them so he can come back without feeling threatened.

God bless!
 bearhug

Surely he is and he knows that if and when he comes back that he can count on us to have his back so things never get back to the way they were before he left. We are his eyes, his ears, and his voice.  I do believe he will befriend this forum and come to count on us in a major way.  At least I certainly hope so.
/bravo/ you are absolutely true! He can count on us 100 percent.. bearhug
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 03:14:22 PM by emulik »
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MJ will get us home safely! :)

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Re: Michael Jackson's efforts to expose the Illuminati.

  • on: December 12, 2011, 02:09:37 AM
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You could be right. :) If we keep silent about them and their agendas, then they've basically won ctrl over us. I'm sure they know of ppl speaking out on them publicly due to the fact that there are many youtubers who make videos on them. I am almost more than certain they're behind youtube as well company wise. Especially with the fact that youtube is branched up with Google. 

Oh yeah most definitely. Youtube is constantly taking down videos that expose or criticize too much.

That's a shame....... :| You should make more vids :)
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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I didn't know where to post these videos...
But because they are about Michael trying to expose the Illuminati, I guess this is best fit...

The first 2 are new, the 1st-posted in June 2012, the second in November 2011
The third is by jackieBlue64 posted back in 2010.


Michael Jackson - He tried to warn us !

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZyJXoJJ2Lk&feature=share[/youtube]



Michael Jackson warned ppl "They don't care about us." (NWO)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNVW-NuZ-0g[/youtube]



Michael Jackson Warns of Illuminati Dangers In TII

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfQ2spJReo&feature=related[/youtube]
« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 02:57:30 PM by SimPattyK »

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MICHAEL JACKSON & COOPER WERE KILLED FOR TELLING US ABOUT 9/11 & ILLUMINATI

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFbqQY6nhRk&feature=related[/youtube]


Published on Jul 8, 2012 by myshinningstar1

REFERENCES AND CREDITS:
 1.RE:Michael Jackson telling you about 9/11 ( four years before it happens) BY The FawkenGuy on Dec 14, 2011 @ http://youtu.be/zJ2TF1DxJJ4


SUMMARY OF HIS FINDINGS:
1 . Look at the position of Michael's arms and relate them to a clock face, it is almost 8:50. Now..., when did the first plane hit the tower?............. well it is 08:46, according to official story on Wikipedia.
2 . "Blood On The Dance Floor" and he is wearing a red suit and a black band on his right upper arm which to me shows symbolism of sorrow or someone's death.
3. He is standing on a checkered floor which has a lot of meaning of its own ( seemingly something related to Freemasons, and Freemasonry)
4. There is a drawing or a pattern in grey color on the back of his left fist !
5. There are chains around his two wrists, which seemingly means that he has broken them and is now free .
6. Notice in the phrase "HIStory In The Mix" while all the letters are capital still you will find that the first letters of each word is bigger than the rest, specially the word "HIStory" which you will find all first 3 letters to be bigger than the rest !


2. Bill coopers....Last prediction @ http://youtu.be/lEebVsIae6c
3. Bill Cooper - Zionism @ http://youtu.be/CclUlNEMNE4
4. THREE CITY STATES @ http://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States

This is the picture of the cover of Michael jackson's album "Blood On The Dance Floor: HIStory in The Mix" which was released on May / 20th 1997 which is telling you about happening of 9/11 incident.
The link to see a larger picture of this is : http://www.4shared.com/photo/-Hh3lE6C/Michael_Jackson_-_1997_-_Blood.html
*Just make sure you choose the LARGE SIZE on top by hovering over the picture.

And to see how moon looks like on any date see this link : http://www.briancasey.org/artifacts/astro/moon.cgi

 

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