Philip Anschutz AEG ordered the Murder of Michael Jackson..........OMG

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Offline bugsy

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I know this is a pretty old blog post now but wanted to just ask a few questions because I can not find them anywhere on the internet or from my family who know alot of old history stuff.

Illuminati? Freemasons? and the Templers? Where is this information that any one of these names suggest Satanic or evil doing?

All the symbols that suggest illuminati are actually Symbols of light, god and all the good stuff, they didn't even come up with the symbols.

The ladder that is shown sometimes is the ladder to heaven, the all seeing eye is devine guidence and I forgot right now what the others were, they weren't even originally created for the Illuminati, Freemasons or Templers, they just picked randomly at already designed logos and made them into their own.

The dollar Bill has the All seeing eye, that was put on to the dollar bill by a non-Masonary member.

If there is indeed some very VERY evil things going on I do not think it has anything to do with the Free Masons, Illuminati or the Templers. Maybe they have been used as the smoke screen, some group to blame, I don't know but If you really truly research the three names with eyes and mind open..without already being convinced they are evil, then you might actually be surprised of how different a picture has been painted.

Do not get me wrong. I believe there is people out there, very greedy, very hateful, cold and cruel people out there who lack empathy and will use anyone they can to gain power and money but I do not think it's these groups. I think these people are not so forward with their logo's if at all they have logo's.

where is the origin of the first words of the illuminati being evil? is there any text that's not conspiracy theories? How did it first start? What is to say that who people say are behind the curtains isn't just another conrad murray being set up to take the fall?

The illuminati could be fighting against such evil people... the Cruel groups could be deliberately posioning the minds of the public to blame them so they remain under the radar. Illuminati comes from Illuminous, the light, Enlightened ones.

No one can disgree one way or another in the end because there is no proof, as much as this information goes around there is nothing stating that any of it is indeed true.

And in a way it's no different to people running around saying digusting things about Michael Jackson and those boys, they did it without proof and we know it's not true but isn't saying the illuminati is bad the same? Those logo's are not exclusive to the freemasons and it's not hard to set the traps by using such logos. Just my thoughts. I have a open mind and I can argue so many different points to everything, I am not bias'd to look at just one aspect of the theories. There is thousands of different ways it could be and not one of them could be the truth.

I don't mean to offend anyone, Just wanted to put my point of view out there.
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Exactly,

The Masonic symbols are from ancient egypt which all represented the god like stuff. which of course can be argued (since everything can be argued in the end) that they messed with our history books and are infact lies,

the question is, what came first, the chicken or the egg?

of course there is evil out there, there would be no good if evil did not exist, we can not name good if we know not of evil. where there is an up there is a down etc etc

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I am neither disagreeing not agreeing with the theory of the existance of the illuminati, I'm just simply putting another spin on perspective. I can't say one way or another if these very people are doing anything bad, nor can I say these are doing good. There is evil in this world as surely as there is good. I just like to call them the power elites because until the evil people come out wearing these logo's it is hard to point the finger directly at them. I've seen the pyramid in music, movies and monuments, I've seen the "horn" sign, I even listened to a lot of back masking.
I just kept coming to the question of if they were hiding their symbols in sight then they are doing a bad job at hiding them, it has become more and more into our culture that it is no longer hidden everyone notices them now. So I then question if the origins of these logos is being used so people are accused of being the evil ones by design and not because they are, could they been the "fall guy" while everyone is looking at the freemasons, no one is looking at them? In society, now with internet in place information comes freely and the headaches begin.
Are we being led in a lie to believe things even when we believe we have woken up to what is going on, could that still be a lie they have created? headaches, the truth is, we do not know what the truth is, everything can be planted, or it may not have been but there is no one single thing to point us in the right direction to confirm that is is undeniably true.
i hope i explained this right. 

and as a side note: just a perspective not of mine because I haven't formed that part of my view yet, but a thought that came to my mind about the peoples raise in power and/or fame could be from talent and the new way people like music. It could be that the population has begun to like such songs as horrible as it is in some instances. This is a perspective that I have not commited to but is a perspect none the less.

Illiminati in songs can be several reasons for being there.
Singers have realized more people believe in this so therefore they sell more music.
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That the elite group is in fact offering them more fame and money in re turn for their alliegence.

The fact still remains that although there is all the theories out there, it can not be taken that it's truth, how many more views do they get from people looking at their video's for the logo's? how many more people hear their music looking for words and meanings?  How much more attention do they get for mentioning the words "illuminati"?

Marshall was being accused of being within the illuminati before he admitted to it, did he see it as a sales pitch or did he really indeed wake up and now shouting out about them? but  then ask one's self, if the 'illuminati' are in control of the music why is his songs of illuminati mainstream not underground? since they use music due to the power of music etc why allow himt o spread the word that could waken the world to their interference and possibley destroy it? If Michael Jackson was told to do things under that drug, what is not to say those singing about the illuminati isn't being told to sing about the illuminati? because only conspiracies exist it's a question that i find no answers one way or another. question everything, isn't that the motto?

From what has been mentioned through out the communities that talk of the illuminati one thing they have stated, that through media of all kinds people are being programmed to switch off when you use certain words like "conpiracy" and I tested it on someone who watched a lot of tv. That is the only proof for me that I have seen, me and this person can talk for a while and then I use the words "conspiracy" and talk about the world and what's happening, power elites and he switches off and then says he has to go. Of course because I do not sit at one thought i questioned if it was because we were on the phone for a while and therefore a coincidence, did he legitmately believe that conspiracy was rediculous or had he been programmed, I have mentioned it in different times and he switches off every time and when I say he watches tv, he does nothing but watch tv other than work. so I don't know.. there is something in that statement.

it begs to question then to say, what if people are programmed to accept that the illuminati are to blame but shut off if someone approaches it being deeper than that? it gives you a lot of headaches, how deep does it go? best description I can come up with to explain is MiB with the locker aliens, and then the world being in a locker also, are people led to believe in a conspiracy deliberately to hide the true conspiracy? these people are powerful,  they leave their calling card in songs but what if the real ones do have their signs hidden in clear sight and the illuminati logos are in fact a decoy?  Possibilities are endless.

about the bible, who has access to the bible and for how many years? someone can fullfill whats being said by force which leads to again the chicken and the egg, do they come true because they were meant to or because they were read and then believed and so came true?

Horoscopes, we can look at the horoscope believe we will meet our knight in shining armor and unknowling put ourselves out there more so that day and indeed find him because we had foresight and so we manipulated it so it happened. Headaches :Pulling_hair:

Please though understand I am not disagreeing at all. There IS evil power out there, and i believe it has got it's hands in a lot of things especially in what is happening with countries right now and the economy but i just don't like pointing a finger when there is questions that can not be answered with something.

but i believe that if the powerful evil is smart enough, you will never see dot to dot connections to do with it, it is all eliminated so there is no trail.
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personally i stay away from discussions which are in context religious, my family is a mix with different religions and so I try to stay out of trouble. My grandfather is Irish and he is of the roman catholic religion, my father is an atheist, my mother is of no religion thus far in the way of baptized by was raised in the catholic faith, grandmother is a christian and my aunty by marriage is jewish.

so I creep away when it comes to any of it.
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