MICHAEL JACKSON Drug-Induced Rambling: "I Had No Childhood"

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MICHAEL JACKSON
Drug-Induced Rambling:
"I Had No Childhood"  :(



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Michael Jackson wanted to dedicate his "This Is It" concerts to his children -- and in a heartbreaking conversation Dr. Conrad Murray recorded weeks before the singer died, MJ claims, "I love them because I didn't have a childhood."

You can hear MJ's voice in the recording -- slurred, incoherent -- explaining how he wanted to outdo The Beatles and Elvis with his final concerts, and go down in history as the greatest entertainer who ever lived.

Michael becomes extremely emotional while speaking about his children -- claiming, "I had no childhood. I feel their pain. I feel their hurt."

Murray recorded the conversation on his iPhone on Sunday May 10th, 2009 at 9:05 AM. It's unclear why -- but according to prosecutors, it documents MJ under the influence of "unknown agents." It also shows Murray was familiar with Michael in altered states of mind.

At one point in the clip, Murray asks Michael if he's okay -- and Michael responds, "I am asleep."

The recording -- a clip of which Prosecutor David Walgren played during his opening statement -- was uncovered by investigators after they seized Murray's device

http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/05/michael-jackson-voice-recording-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-audio-prosecutor-david-walgren/

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« Last Edit: October 05, 2011, 04:21:53 PM by applehead250609 »

Offline MJonmind

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Does anyone here know how the speech of people under hypnosis sounds? Just wondering.

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Mmmmm........the more I hear this tape ,the more I think is Michael.And it's similar to his voice when he spoke to Brett Ratner:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8os7kO4OKQw&feature=related[/youtube]

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Offline onejuly

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I'm slowly beginning to think it's him. Altered of course, but still him. Its the way he pronounces his words, I think.
As for the tape itself ...  suspicious//
He wasn't intoxicated. His sentences are well thought out. You would think, if he was intoxicated, his sentences would be all over the place. But here he's talking about one thing, very specific, to the point.

Why has no one questioned this? The family, the reporters..
"Seems like everywhere I go, the more I see, the less I know."

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Wow..that is sad but as I listened longer he starts to sound more coherent.
I mean when's the last time you heard someone "intoxicated" us the word degradation? lol
At some points he just sounds like he has something in his mouth and talks normal. hmmm
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This voice sounds sooooooo much like a stroke victim talking.....Hmmmm
 
Its not how he says it, its what he is trying to say....thats the clue.

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the amazing thing is that even under the influence of god knows what, michael's still talking about helping children, saving the planet, etc. I couldn't bring myself to listen to the whole thing. it's too sad.
but don't you think it's weird? I mean, I think he wants the world to see his true nature, and what a better way to do it with letting everyone hearing him talking about it when he's like this.
it's very, very clever when you think about it.
There's A Man
Who Plays The Game Of Life So Well
There's Such A Man
His Thoughts You Can Never Tell
And It's Just The Way He Thought It Would Be
'Cause The Day Has Come For Him To Be Free
Then He Laughs, He Kicks And
Rolls Up His Sleeves
I'm Alive And I'm Here Forever

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I have no problems believing it's Michael, I love the speech - read it, it's lovely speech, complete and makes sense in so many ways. I met people who sound this way when they are about to sleep, no drugs or anything involved, just dead tired. I love this speech and that's about it..

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This is definitely Michael and it doesn't bother me at all. I know he was and is NOT a drug addict and there's a reason why they're making us listen these recordings. It's because of the message in it. What will the world think of him now? Even when he was drugged, he was thinking about the kids. This is about showing the world the real Michael Jackson.

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After listening to the full 4 minute audio today, I couldn't prevent a terrible theory from creeping in.  The audio sounded, not like an intoxicated man (to many coherent thoughts...just sounded slowed down), but the contents sounded like someone who was saying goodbye.  It sounded like the contents of someone who participated in assisted suicide.  Why would Murray tape this? Was he going to use it to claim Michael asked him to help him kill himself?  I could not keep this from creeping in my mind.  Maybe I need grounding.  It really sounded like Michael wanted certain things to be heard.  It worried me.  Sorry if it has been discussed.  This trial is taking too much out of me.

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I'm slowly beginning to think it's him. Altered of course, but still him. Its the way he pronounces his words, I think.
As for the tape itself ...  suspicious//
He wasn't intoxicated. His sentences are well thought out. You would think, if he was intoxicated, his sentences would be all over the place. But here he's talking about one thing, very specific, to the point.

Why has no one questioned this? The family, the reporters..


I totaly agree with you! I was thinking the same exact thing. When you're HIGHLY under the influence, you ramble about things that don't make any sense. In this one youtube video called "The lost voicemails" , MJ was a bit groggy/under the influence, byt he sounded NOTHING like the tapes that were played during trial today. Kinda makes you wonder. MJ in the youtube vid(lost voicemails) even admitted that he was a bit exhausted. So...again, he was somewhat in his right mind. This whole trial thing is SO confusing. I don't know what to believe anymore :'(
I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Don Berrigan, former publicist for Jackson 5 says that the Audio recording sounds 'slowed down'.
Just incredible!

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I see what makes you think so belladonna, and while we of course do not know real Michael,
why would he do this? According to everyone who knew him personally and talked about him,
he loved life. He loved his kids more than everything, he was optimistic beyond belief
and always tried to concentrate on what's good.. He was not suicidal, he was full of Love and Life.
He was a fighter also. He was passionate about many things. Those who kill themselves
have no desires, no love, no passion, no optimism, just emptiness.

And yes, very likely he wanted the world to hear this. But very likely NOT because he
wanted to die!

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlarZeh9mMU[/youtube]

The MJ rambling recording reminds me of Marlon Brando in Godfather. rr/

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I believe 100% this is Michael talking...no doubt whatsoever. :|

I guess I am an odd duck because I was more so picking up on the background noises.  You could clearly hear a fan blowing in the background (if Michael was always cold why would a fan be blowing?- space heaters don't make that much noise)

Second, you could hear a carbon dioxide detector beeping---seems insignificant, but when you think about it, it isn't heard beeping in the 911 call (says to me, they were not in that room when this recording was made)

Third, the recorder is clearly held closer to Michael than it is to Murray...(Michael's voice is more audible- stand's to reason he's holding the phone- so recording this was his idea)
Lastly, and this is the most bizarre part....Murray asks "are you okay?"...this question suggests Michael was in an "emotional state of mind", it's not a question a medical professional would ask in this situation if drugs were involved....they would say;

"How are you feeling?",  "Are you in pain, or do you feeling pain?" "Do you know where you are?", "Do you know who I am?" - if he was under some form of intoxication or medication.
 
Michael clearly address' Conrad Murray in this speech--- he is fully aware of his surrounding, who he's talking to and is articulate.

 
I don't think he's "intoxicated" but more so upset/frustrated. He sounds like someone who's been up all night crying, is extremely tired and emotional. He's too coherent (clear of thought) to be under any "influence".

The Defense was adamant to state that this was recorded on a SUNDAY early in the morning (9:05 a.m.)--->not Murray's normal "medical" visit day, Why? because Michael was speaking to Murray as a friend, not a physician.
 
...this is what i hear when I listen to this. IMO  ;)
 
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After listening to the full 4 minute audio today, I couldn't prevent a terrible theory from creeping in.  The audio sounded, not like an intoxicated man (to many coherent thoughts...just sounded slowed down), but the contents sounded like someone who was saying goodbye.  It sounded like the contents of someone who participated in assisted suicide.  Why would Murray tape this? Was he going to use it to claim Michael asked him to help him kill himself?  I could not keep this from creeping in my mind.  Maybe I need grounding.  It really sounded like Michael wanted certain things to be heard.  It worried me.  Sorry if it has been discussed.  This trial is taking too much out of me.

I don't think he was suicidal...but I can see how it would appear that way. But I do think he was frustrated and extemely emotional.  He sounds like he was overwhelmed because he wanted so much for his dream to be realized and he had a lot riding on this playing out perfectly.
 
I say this because I used to work as a grief counselor.  This conversation has the tone of someone extremely tired and in an very emotional state. He pauses to think about what he's saying (reflection), he slurring (indicative of extreme fatigue), he's talking about his hopes and desires (emotional revelation).
If taken out of context, to a casual listener this would sound like the rantings of an "intoxicated person"....but it's not.  It's a plea for help, for understanding, to vent frustration....not a death wish.

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After listening to the full 4 minute audio today, I couldn't prevent a terrible theory from creeping in.  The audio sounded, not like an intoxicated man (to many coherent thoughts...just sounded slowed down), but the contents sounded like someone who was saying goodbye.  It sounded like the contents of someone who participated in assisted suicide.  Why would Murray tape this? Was he going to use it to claim Michael asked him to help him kill himself?  I could not keep this from creeping in my mind.  Maybe I need grounding.  It really sounded like Michael wanted certain things to be heard.  It worried me.  Sorry if it has been discussed.  This trial is taking too much out of me.

I don't think he would commit suicide because of his children.  He loved them too much to put them through that.

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I believe 100% this is Michael talking...no doubt whatsoever. :|

I guess I am an odd duck because I was more so picking up on the background noises.  You could clearly hear a fan blowing in the background (if Michael was always cold why would a fan be blowing?- space heaters don't make that much noise)

I thought it sounded like a helicopter noise or something.
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I believe 100% this is Michael talking...no doubt whatsoever. :|

I guess I am an odd duck because I was more so picking up on the background noises.  You could clearly hear a fan blowing in the background (if Michael was always cold why would a fan be blowing?- space heaters don't make that much noise)

I thought it sounded like a helicopter noise or something.

I was literally just typing that it sounded like a helicopter!  Which I guess is like a really big fan, LOL.

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This voice sounds sooooooo much like a stroke victim talking.....Hmmmm
 
Its not how he says it, its what he is trying to say....thats the clue.

 I agree and have said this on another thread, it does sound like is a stroke victim, but how would that play into this Hoax? Unless this isn't really Michael, but a Michael impersonator who had a stroke and was dying, and Conrad was actually looking after him, not Michael...Did Conrad help a dying impersonator end his life,and did the impersonator record this message FOR Michael??....I don't know...

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I don't believe Michael was suicidal.  He is a fighter, never giving up - no matter what.  Michael will be trying to heal the planet and save all children until the day he dies.  The raw emotion and pain you could hear was just heartbreaking though.
"I love you."  "I promise you I will make you all proud of me." "You will be proud of being a Michael Jackson fan." - Michael Jackson

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When I first heard this recording last week I wasn't sure it was Michael, but now I'm convinced it It's Michael but his voice is altered somehow, either the tape it doctored or Michael was acting somehow. I also head a lot of background noise on the tape, glad I'm not the only one and wonder what it could be. I thought that perhaps it's some kind of medical device/medical machine. Like a breathing machine or something like that.

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With Murray murmuring agreement, Jackson referred to the children of the world as “angels” and said, “God wants me to do it. I’m gonna do it, Conrad.”

Murray replied, “I know you would.”

That's kind of a strange way for Murray to answer that statement isn't it?  You would think he would say - I know you will.
"I love you."  "I promise you I will make you all proud of me." "You will be proud of being a Michael Jackson fan." - Michael Jackson

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I've had HLN on in the background all evening (BTW it's channel 77 where I am - no joke) and what irks me is they've played this recording over and over and over again and they just get mad at Murray for recording it and saying Michael was so drugged up but nobody mentions WHAT Michael was talking about and what is obviously important to him.  Taking care and giving hope to sick children by building the greatest hospital for children ever.  I literally have not heard anyone say a single thing about that and if they did, I missed it.  And like others have said on this forum - these are not the "ramblings" of someone stoned out of their mind.

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This is definitely Michael and it doesn't bother me at all. I know he was and is NOT a drug addict and there's a reason why they're making us listen these recordings. It's because of the message in it. What will the world think of him now? Even when he was drugged, he was thinking about the kids. This is about showing the world the real Michael Jackson.

Alleluia... You got it.. The article said incoherent? Yeah right.. think again.. Every word he said made sense.. If he slurped his words, it is for a reason, a reason to prove that it is part of the hoax. Incoherent means, when you are drunk and you do not finish your words, and you do not know what you are saying. You are out of context. Instead Michael made sense, he wanted to help the children in hospitals because they do not have a movie theater, nor a game room they are all alone.. Now for me this is and Intelligent, and humanitarian man.. I wonder why Murray taped Michael's conversation. Was it Michael's idea.. By the way I can talk like Michael too, I can slurp my words without being drugged, or drunk.. lolol/ Michael is alive..


I'm happy to be alive, I'm happy to be who I am.
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