If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

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If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 12:08:38 PM
The trial is going to begin soon and I wanted to ask this tough question. The recent news about the trial do not seem on Murray's side. The lost pharmacist is found and he is going to testify, Prince is going to testify too. So what if Murray goes to prison? Will you still believe Michael is alive?

I will believe no matter what. Even if I see Murray in prison, it means nothing. It can be a part of the plan and also it would make the BAM more surprising, and shocking to the world. So what I'm saying is, pls do not lose your hope whatever happens like TS says. Anything can happen. Remember everything we have found till today, be strong and keep your faith.

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 12:48:51 PM
Yesterday, exact the same question have crossed my mind. I will still believe but with doubts.... because I don't think that Michael wants a person to go to jail....

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Purelove I believe.  No matter what happens, I have faith.  This journey has been for a far greater reason than we will probably ever know.  But it is an adventure...a great adventure.  Two many clues, two many things add up, down and all around to be anything other than he is alive.  I truly believe he is no matter what.  If Murray goes to prison it will just be another piece of the puzzle.  Patience is very important.  But can be difficult somethings.  But I will not give up hope.  Take care, Love to All  bearhug

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
I believe strongly that this is a hoax court. That being said, if Murray "went" to prison, it would be part of the story line.


But wondering about this is a little like wondering what I would do if the sun explodes.


I do believe the road is going to get very bumpy for believers at the same time it gets a little smoother for the non-believers. I expect some attempt to recruit a few more of their numbers as the days pass. I also expect to be tested; the ultimate test awaits us.


Again I will say, I see a growing movement from believers to talk themselves out of believing. It's been a quiet undertone for months, and it's turning into a dull roar as of late.


I wish people would be honest with themselves, as then they could face their fears, cowgirl up, and soldier on. But until that happens they are doomed to the spiral of self doubt, self deception, and insecurity.


Michael didn't sing Keep The Faith to remind people about God n Jesus. He sang it for us... believers... 18 years ago. Keep it your anthem.
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 01:26:36 PM
Pure Love, i'm also stay believing nothing can get me out of that,  i have faith, what ever may happen in the future.  :),
“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.”
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 02:05:24 PM
I only could immagine that Michael is "Behind the mask" of Murray, and he takes off the mask before he has to go to jail ^^ and says

sooooo, you guys want an innocent man go to jail?

This would be very funny and schoking....

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
I think we need to be prepared for anything - Murray may be found guilty and appear to 'go to jail', but it won't necessarily mean he's really there.  ;)

But before we get anywhere near that, the trial actually has to take place, and there's still time for another delay.  I'd rather get over that hurdle first!

And yes, whatever happens, I'll still believe!

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
Ever since June 25, 2009, I have believed Michael is alive. However, from what I know of Michael, he is a sweet, loving, kind, and gentle person who would not let an innocent man go to prison. Nor would he tarnish an innocent man's image by making it look like he went to prison even if he's not actually there (Michael knows what that feels like - his image got tarnished even though he was 1000 % innocent). So, therefore, if Murray goes to jail I will probably lose my faith slowly but surely only because I truly believe that Michael would not let and innocent man go to prison or let his image get tarnished by Michael's fans, the media, and the public. I know we have found a lot in the past 2 years since Michael's "death", however, you never know. Maybe there are such things as coincidences, or maybe these clues were placed here for us to find by the people who planned to murder MJ, if he is actually dead, to stop us from finding out the real truth on who killed Michael. However, again, I will NEVER lose my faith unless Murray goes to jail. So, until then, I'm gonna keep watchin', see what goes down at this trial, and keep my faith until the judge's final decision! :D
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 02:51:12 PM
Everybody has they're price. Murray is exposed to 4 yrs max. With appeals and "good behavior" he'll be out in 2 1/2 yrs. If MJ says do a few yrs and I'll give you 10 million for your coperation. Most pple may not say "yes" right away, but I'm sure most may think about it for a while.

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 03:12:02 PM

@IWantYouBack, when I said this:

I think we need to be prepared for anything - Murray may be found guilty and appear to 'go to jail', but it won't necessarily mean he's really there.  ;)


I wasn't thinking that that would be the end of the story (Murray with tarnished reputation, even if not really in jail).

Do you think MJ has plans to 'come back' in some way?  I do, so when that happens, anything that has happened to Murray will automatically be eradicated!

And yes, LoveNeedsExpression, I'm sure Murray is being paid well for his part in all this, however far it eventually goes.

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
I won't worry if he's found guilty. I'll see it as part of the scenario.

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 03:49:46 PM
Yes , ill always believe! :mrgreen:
No matter what happens, nothing can destroy my faith after ALL THESE YEARS. ;)
I'll just believe it's part of the plan. Michael's in control.  8-)


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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
I think we need to be prepared for anything - Murray may be found guilty and appear to 'go to jail', but it won't necessarily mean he's really there.  ;)

But before we get anywhere near that, the trial actually has to take place, and there's still time for another delay.  I'd rather get over that hurdle first!

And yes, whatever happens, I'll still believe!

Perfectly said curls. Even if we see him going into the jail, it doesn't mean that he is going into the jail for real. Like Michael's death is not real, like the court is not real, the prison doesn't need to be real.

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 04:46:52 PM

@IWantYouBack, when I said this:

I think we need to be prepared for anything - Murray may be found guilty and appear to 'go to jail', but it won't necessarily mean he's really there.  ;)


I wasn't thinking that that would be the end of the story (Murray with tarnished reputation, even if not really in jail).

Do you think MJ has plans to 'come back' in some way?  I do, so when that happens, anything that has happened to Murray will automatically be eradicated!

And yes, LoveNeedsExpression, I'm sure Murray is being paid well for his part in all this, however far it eventually goes.

I knew what you meant, no worries. :) However, I do hope and think that Michael will eventually make a return, however, we don't know for sure. If Murray goes to jail, I am going to find it hard to think "Oh, well he's off to prison, but no worries, Michal is on his way back! So it's all going to be fine and dandy with Murray soon" because I don't know that for sure. I'm praying and hoping that is the case, but I just don't know. All I can go on is the information I have learned and gathered up until the day of the judge's final decision and unfortunately none of that information, for me, points to a 100 % FOR SURE comeback.
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 04:51:26 PM
If Murray goes to jail, it would not be for killing Michael.

Jermaine said that even of Murray goes to jail, that won´t bring Michael back  :-\
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Michael pls come back


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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 05:03:28 PM
Maybe I'll manage to go on after such a verdict but I will be very depressed...I just can not accept, like TMZ said:
"....For it all to end on June 25, 2009, with his sudden death at age 50 of a drug-induced cardiac arrest, just as he was coming out of a four-year reclusive period and rehearsing for a sold-out London concert "comeback" in July, seems uncommonly cruel and tragic "
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 05:37:58 PM
Ohh c'mon guys, why do I see sad faces again? Who cares if Jermaine said it won't bring Michael back. He says that there's no hoax and Michael is dead for real. Do we believe him? So why do we believe what he says about the trial and it won't bring Michael back?

Gina, it is not only TMZ who says these kind of things about Michael. he is still dead to the world and the family and TMZ are doing their parts perfectly. Remember all the clues TMZ gave to us but they need to feed the story and make it look like it is real. That's the reason why they make such articles.

Stay strong guys. There's nothing to lose faith. He will be back. He never left us alone tho but still we will see him in flesh and bone. Just BELIEVE it and it will happen. Hugs for you all.
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 05:56:51 PM
Maybe...the trial will come and go...a few months.  Be finished by the end of the year.  Maybe "the trial won't bring Michael back" because it won't.  Whether or not Murray goes free may not be the reason to return.  It may be a chapter in the hoax is all.  I'd say, if Murray goes to jail, it will be a short time if he even goes to a REAL jail and not just a set it anyplace at all.  If he goes free...??  I just thing Jermaine didn't lie and it's a clue.  The trial won't bring Michael back.  He'll be back before, during or after, of course, but NOT because of the trial.  So, the trial isn't the cusp of the hoax as we'd wanted to presume. 

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:03:53 PM
I have never been completely sure that Murray is a 100% good guy in the hoax.  If he goes to prison,  after all has been alleged by him during these months, then I’m willing to accept that my uncertainties were right on and he sadly deserves to be there.  Not for killing Michael as he has contended all along that he didn’t, but for being a part of the plan to ensure that Michael would be rendered unable to fulfill his contractual obligations, be it by force or desparation.  I have felt that Murray inadvertently became a part of an elaborate, deceitful scheme and possibly did not know to what extent his servics would be required until he got his work plan.   However, due to his financial situation he was helpless to follow his orders and made virtually a puppet to do as he was told.  I still believe even if Murray goes to jail, possibly for a lesser charge, that Michael got away. /white flag/

Sometimes, I actually feel a little sorry for Murray.  I do believe that he once was an upstanding member of his little community.  I can imagine that he many days feels like he wants to kick his own ass for not having taken a more professional look at what must have seemed the opportunity of a lifetime.  Had he done so, his life too would surely have taken a different more honorable turn.  Money or the temptation of having more than you’ve ever dreamed, can most times make us do foolish things.  Murray learned the hard way. respect/
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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:20:38 PM
Oh dear, hesouttamylife, I wonder if I've been following the same hoax as you!  Respectfully, can I ask if you really believe the scenario you've just outlined?  I think I'll leave it at that!

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:24:16 PM


Stay strong guys, we have have come too far to throw in the towel now, even if Dr Murray goes to jail I will still believe Michael is still alive, everything is way to weird to believe otherwise.


Hold on tight now, its going to be a bumpy ride and no mistake.   bangbang


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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:31:24 PM
Yes I do.  From day one.  I respect other opinions and look at them from every point of view.  However, I still have my own gut feeling.  I could verty well be wrong.  Actually I wold welcome it.  But as of this day, yes absolutely, I feel this is a real possibility.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:38:48 PM
i think if Murray goes to jail then mj passed away
1)because i think mj wouldn't make a person go through jail for the hoax
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2)im pretty sure you cant go to jail for killing Michael Joseph Jackson (Fake Identity)
so he would've had to have killed the Michael Joe Jackson
but i think that as soon as a verdict is to be read mj will announce himself alive right before it! moonwalk_/

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:43:28 PM
I have never stopped believing that Michael had to fake his death because his real life was in danger.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: If Murray goes to prison,will you still believe?

  • on: September 20, 2011, 06:56:15 PM
Yes I do.  From day one.  I respect other opinions and look at them from every point of view.  However, I still have my own gut feeling.  I could verty well be wrong.  Actually I wold welcome it.  But as of this day, yes absolutely, I feel this is a real possibility.

I have never stopped believing that Michael had to fake his death because his real life was in danger.

So the idea of MJ spending years planning his death hoax doesn't fit into your theory at all, you think it was a last minute 'escape', he was in danger, yet he still managed and wanted to plant inconsistencies and clues to point to him 'escaping'?  I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, my friend!  bearhug