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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 15, 2011, 04:50:29 PM
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They photoshopped MJ's head in the ambo pic,


That's not correct. MJ's head was not photoshopped into the ambulance pic.

Then explain to me please!
How did he look like late 80's MJ in 2009?
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He doesn't look like in the 80s. Just because the photo is darker doesn't mean his skin is darker there. It's the lighting.It takes a lot to make a falwless photoshopped photo. First you have to find the exact position of the face to fit the angle of the photo taken, of the body, etc.
Maybe it is difficult to see for who doesn't have photography background, but the difference in skin colour it's due to lighting there. As well goes for Murray, when people say his skin looks darker here, lighter there.
Take a photo of someone with flash/without flash, inside/outside, from 2 feet distance/closer, with proffesional lenses/without proffesional lenses, and all the photos, textures, colours, lighting will look different.
 
If the photo is not real, it is staged.


I actually agree he does look like MJ from the 80's... but I think Anna is correct to say it was staged. I believe it is the Leave Me Alone dummy (from the video) laying on the stretcher in that pic. I think that because it looks *just like* that dummy, right down to the not-quite-right nose and the mask doesn't fit quite right. Considering we know the face was not shopped, that's really the best way to rectify why MJ looks so young in this staged pic. This is also a shout-out to Elvis's corpse in the coffin appearing to be a much younger version of himself.


We proved the pic was indeed shopped, but only in layers, not in subject matter. The reflections were added over the ambulance interior scene to simulate and then match up to a real life pic that would have been taken as the events were depicted outside Carrolwood on 6/25/09. 


If you want to know more, this thread is where we proved the shopping was done in layers: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,18053.msg308499.html#msg308499
I don't know, anyone could be right, we're all just guessing. I really don't think its 50 yr old Michael. His bone structure is different. I'm not sure exactly how to describe it... I don't know enough to explain it the way you guys can. :(
It could be the dummy, but I think it looks more like a cut and paste picture...
I guess we'll find out one day what or the the hell is that picture!  /pull hair/
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 15, 2011, 10:16:11 PM
I'm trying to tell you we already did find out. Go read all those pages in that link. It's all there.
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 15, 2011, 11:20:39 PM
I'm trying to tell you we already did find out. Go read all those pages in that link. It's all there.

ok i will look back
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 01:31:15 AM
If this is a hoax, and I believe it is, then why write such a bullshit in a BOOK which is kinda "permanent". What if MJ bams one day and in  twenty years someone reads this bullshit about MJ that his brother saw him dead on a trolley and he will still be alive and kicking? [...]
Yes, I've had this thought too. It's like these books (LaToya's etc) are just adding to the pile of history books that MJ said were lying. Guess we just have to sit tight and watch how it all pans out.
@VeryLittleSusie - Do you think that in 20 years the person who would read Jermaine's book [or LaToya's book] will not be aware of the fact the Michael jackson had faked his death and that's why Jermaine [and LaToya] had written [on purpose] those books while the world [except beleivers] was not yet aware of the death-hoax!?

@curls - I think that what Michael wanted to say by "the History books are lying" was that just like the media tells lies in newspapers, TV-shows, etc... the book-editors/publishers/authors...can also manipulate the general public with books that shouldn't always be taken as fully correct or true.
- Aphrodite Jones also mentioned the mafia in the book-publishing business when she told in one interview how hard it was for her to get her book about Michael, published! All the publishing-houses had turned her down the minute they learned it was a POSITIVE book on Michael Jackson, a book telling the truth!! You can hear her say this in the video here at the minute 03:50 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU

Skeletal?
Like the character he played in Ghosts? :lol:
That's where my mind went too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmAy4kJDIw
"Am I scary for you baby?"   ;)
Yeah exactly, Ghosts! And I also thought about the skeleton shirt and PopEye!! POP Eye!! maybe Jermaine was hinting to POP Eye when he mentioned he slid open [POP] Michael's EYE !?



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They photoshopped MJ's head in the ambo pic,
That's not correct. MJ's head was not photoshopped into the ambulance pic.
Then explain to me please! How did he look like late 80's MJ in 2009?
He doesn't look like in the 80s. Just because the photo is darker doesn't mean his skin is darker there. It's the lighting.[...]
I actually agree he does look like MJ from the 80's... but I think Anna is correct to say it was staged. I believe it is the Leave Me Alone dummy (from the video) laying on the stretcher in that pic. [...]This is also a shout-out to Elvis's corpse in the coffin appearing to be a much younger version of himself. [...]
- I also tend to believe that it is either the "Leave Me Alone" dummy OR the photo with Michael on the stage that was shopped to look like in the ambulance... or may it be a combination of both?

- Regarding this ^^ and the photo of Elvis in the coffin, I made some photo-montages. It is known that all the family, friends, fans, etc... who viewed Elvis in the coffin, declared afterwards that either it wasn't him OR it didn't look like him! he seemed 10 year younger!
- One of Elvis' cousins said that he never saw dead men sweating, nor eyebrows rolling on a dead man. The "sweating" is explained by the fact that the wax-dummy which was used as "Elvis in the coffin" had a cooling device underneath [also explaining why the coffin was awfully heavy!], but the cooled wax in contact with normal atmosphere temperature gets these little "water drops" to form on the surface, so that's why the "dead Elvis" was sweating! LMAO  :lol: :lol: and because of the "sweat" the glue used to stick the eyebrows, was kind of "washed out" lmao  :lol: :lol: I think Michael learned from this "experience", that's why his casket was closed!!  :lol: :lol:




- Below you can also see a photo-montage I did on James Brown's coffin pics...also very interesting! lolll especially since for Michael they used the exact type of coffin as for James Brown! It seems Michael learned both from Elvis and from James B. on how to fake a funeral! lmao :lol: This is even written in an article for God's sake!! I just can't stop laughing every-time I think/speak about Elvis/MJ/James B. - coffins! lmao  :lol: :lol:

- Read this article! there are 2 pages... From the article: "Jackson also inquired about the coffin and how it was chosen. "He wanted to go into our casket room," Reid said. Reid showed him various models. Jackson did not say so, but Reid could not help feeling that the star was contemplating his own demise, studying Brown in death as intently as he had in life."He asked who requested the gold-plated casket," Reid said. "I said, 'Well, it's the family's decision.' He asked if that's something Mr. Brown wanted. I said, 'Entertainers, they always say solid gold.'" Jackson laughed and they returned to the chapel." - http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-06-28/news/17925847_1_charles-reid-james-brown-michael-jackson

- An interesting VIDEO: Michael Jackson Alive- Coffin and Tombs!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKTWrIGQLeQ


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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 04:00:38 AM
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@VeryLittleSusie - Do you think that in 20 years the person who would read Jermaine's book [or LaToya's book] will not be aware of the fact the Michael jackson had faked his death and that's why Jermaine [and LaToya] had written [on purpose] those books while the world [except beleivers] was not yet aware of the death-hoax!?

@curls - I think that what Michael wanted to say by "the History books are lying" was that just like the media tells lies in newspapers, TV-shows, etc... the book-editors/publishers/authors...can also manipulate the general public with books that shouldn't always be taken as fully correct or true.
- Aphrodite Jones also mentioned the mafia in the book-publishing business when she told in one interview how hard it was for her to get her book about Michael, published! All the publishing-houses had turned her down the minute they learned it was a POSITIVE book on Michael Jackson, a book telling the truth!! You can hear her say this in the video here at the minute 03:50 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU



That lying in the history books seems to be lost on the public who believe mostly everything coming out of the media and published books. I wouldn't worry about people mad that Jermaine and LaToya are lying, because after BAM everything might be so changed.
 
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 04:03:37 AM
if you look at the pictures SimPattyK posted, it really does look like the mannequin from the Leave Me Alone video in the ambulance photo  8)
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 08:11:26 AM
[...]Thanks SimPattyK for using your gifts for this forum!
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You know... everything I do... comes fro my own research work, but also from what I've been reading on this forum, long before I registered here! So of course...I dedicate all this to the forum too !
I feel everything here, the topics, the users who post each one their own opinions, knowledge, all they have best in them, is like a team-work! or brain-storming detective work lol all directed to ONE goal!
So I thank you all! we all depend on everyone's knowledge here...that's the magic of MJ's hoax who brought us all together here, from all the corners of the world bearhug

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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 08:39:36 AM
@SimPattyK.........your work is art like I have never seen
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 08:55:29 AM
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Girl WOW!!! I'm always like  :shock: when I see your posts and sometimes I'm like  OMG!  WTF?? but mostly  bow/

Perfectly explained with pictures, arrow signs and smiling faces. :lol: Seriously, appreciate your posts a lot. Thank you.
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 12:06:02 PM
I am overwhelemed! seriously!
Thank you for your encouragements and compliments!!
My heart is HUUGE now , filled with joy!



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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 16, 2011, 07:42:12 PM
THE EYES HAVE IT can you also remember that TMZ posted a picture of Beyonce with her eyes closed which I found very strange when she said she would appear on the Michael forever tribute show. Also Jermaine lifted one of his eyelids to see him for the last time going back to all the hoax videos and the links to the eye .NWO and wasn't Jermaine part of Islam???? Just a throught! whos behind all this.

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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 18, 2011, 07:43:12 AM


If you think they had a GREAT TIME at James brown funeral,just watch what GREAT TIME THEY had at Apollo,betewn Michael's suppose DEATH and MEMORIAL  :lol: afraid/ :lol:.It seems that THEY were really happy  Michael "DIED"  :roll: :lol:

Spike Lee and Al Sharpton Dancing at the Michael Jackson Memorial at the Apollo
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKm7eikFVlc[/youtube]

And this is not ALL,I have a video from THE PARTY,that took place after THIS IS IT premiere,lol.Jermaine,Omer,Ola Ray,Paula Abdul,friends ,etc had a REALLY GREAT TIME, lolol/,and now they want JUSTICE  :roll:????? Since 2009 it is 2 years and they didn't do a DAM THING  :? :lol:.It seems that back then,at THIS IS IT premiere movie Jermaine didn't find MICHAEL SKELETAL,but now he is  :lol:????? This is crazy and we are in LALA LAND,lol lolol/.


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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 24, 2011, 04:59:37 AM
The ambulance pic was taken when he was laying on the stage at one of his concerts. That guy that admitted it was a fake admitted that and showed us the pic they took it from.

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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 25, 2011, 02:43:53 AM
The ambulance pic was taken when he was laying on the stage at one of his concerts. That guy that admitted it was a fake admitted that and showed us the pic they took it from.

I must have missed that nugget!  What guy? Ben?  When did he admit it? Are you SURE about this?

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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 25, 2011, 03:22:49 AM
Watch at :34, but is he telling the whole truth is the question. Is he following orders from MJ?  albino/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxDVREww8GA[/youtube]

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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: September 25, 2011, 05:35:02 AM
Thanks MJonmind, this is the footage I was talking about!

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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: October 06, 2011, 04:22:29 PM

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Jermaine Jackson was shocked by his brother Michael's skeletal appearance when he died.

Jermaine has spoken movingly of his horror upon hearing of the death of his sibling -- who died from acute Propofol intoxication in June 2009 -- and admitted his frail brother looked like someone who had been "ravaged by cancer or anorexia."

Recalling his visit to the hospital to see the pop legend's body, he said: "Michael was lying on a trolley in a hospital gown. I steadied myself, took a breath, and entered the side door to the right. I went over to the other side of Michael, reaching down to take his hand, rubbing his still-soft skin. I couldn't believe how skeletal he was. He seemed half the size he had been a month earlier. If a stranger had walked into the room, they would have assumed he had been ravaged by cancer or anorexia."
Jermaine was so shocked by the sudden death of his beloved brother he found he "couldn't pull away" and lifted one of Michael's eyelids in order to "see" him one last time.

In an extract from his book "You Are Not Alone: Michael Through A Brother's Eyes" serialized by The Times newspaper, he revealed: "I leant down and kissed him on the forehead, telling him I loved him. I found I couldn't pull away. I lifted one of his eyelids because I wanted to look into his eyes, 'see' him one last time. I rested my forehead against his and wept."


"Ravaged by cancer or anorexia."
Yea ofcourse....... :lol: :lol: afraid/ :lol:










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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: October 06, 2011, 08:02:31 PM
Michael gave an advice one in a video with Brett R, the advice was to be "doctors", to disect, to learn from the greats and to believe in oneself no matter how many people tells us we are wrong.
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: October 06, 2011, 09:07:15 PM
Michael gave an advice one in a video with Brett R, the advice was to be "doctors", to disect, to learn from the greats and to believe in oneself no matter how many people tells us we are wrong.

OMG MissG you are  right  afraid/!!!!!!
So Michael is THE DOCTOR and we are the PATIENTS,or he is the TEACHER and we are THE STUDENTS!!!! We have to learn,to learn....and learn even more,disect...OMG this is what he told Brett...PRACTICE MORE ,lol  lolol/ /bravo/!!!
Thank you and have a good night  :-*!!!


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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: October 06, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
Lies. I don't even know what to believe from anyone. In the airport interview Jermaine says "He was very very healthy".
He wrote that in his book?

I agree with Anna. Perhaps this is all a part of the plan for ppl to believe something really happened to Michael.  moonwalk_/
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: October 07, 2011, 02:57:25 AM
Lies. I don't even know what to believe from anyone. In the airport interview Jermaine says "He was very very healthy".
He wrote that in his book?

I agree with Anna. Perhaps this is all a part of the plan for ppl to believe something really happened to Michael.  moonwalk_/


I think Jermaine's change of story is strong evidence that the media are indeed being allowed to chose their own adventure. Directly after 6/25/09, both stories were being actively put out there; 1) MJ was healthy and in shape, 2) MJ was emaciated and in ill-health. (obviously) The media (via the media buying public) chose the emaciated and frail story to run with. They've chosen their own adventure. Now the story is geared around exactly what the want to hear.
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Re: Jermaine: Brother's body looked 'skeletal' ...

  • on: October 08, 2011, 03:21:43 AM
I think Jermaine's change of story is strong evidence that the media are indeed being allowed to chose their own adventure. Directly after 6/25/09, both stories were being actively put out there; 1) MJ was healthy and in shape, 2) MJ was emaciated and in ill-health. (obviously) The media (via the media buying public) chose the emaciated and frail story to run with. They've chosen their own adventure. Now the story is geared around exactly what the want to hear.
 

Same applies to the "coma" and "dying" news.
The Media ran with "dying". They wanted him dead.
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