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As usual, I have waited for the dust to settle, before posting anything. For those who did not forget “NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS”—and therefore they are still here—it is time for level 5! <!-- styping/ -->typing/<!-- styping/ --> While level 4 was the most important, this level will be the most difficult—at least for some. In fact, this level is not for newbie’s, or those with weak faith; because in this level, I am going to take sides with Jermaine—and say that there is no hoax, MJ is really dead. If you can’t handle this level, then please just skip it. Also, people will now have trouble accusing me of trying to cover up a murder plot—because the murder theory is exactly what I will now be attempting to defend! <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> It’s time to test what you have learned in the last two years. How solid is your hoax evidence? Is it irrefutable, or is it based on fantasy and imagination? No doubt more will turn against me at this level; but that’s okay, because I’m not here to win a popularity contest. For those who have read all of my previous posts, you will probably understand the purpose of this level; also, some things from previous levels may now become clear. <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ --> In this level, there is no limit on any particular category of discussion; you can bring any evidence you want, to support the hoax theory. And I will try to debunk it, and support the murder theory. You can also use my own previous hoax evidence, if you want. For nearly a year now, there has not even been one serious attempt to claim the $999 numerology reward; so the timing of MJ’s death was certainly planned. However, what if I say that the Illuminati found out about his hoax plans, and killed him according to the exact timing that he had planned? Can you debunk this? Did the Illuminati outthink him, or did he outthink the Illuminati? That is the main question of this level. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> Regarding the trial delay: I was very aware of a possible delay; if not, my May 1 post would’ve been much different (which you will see in level 6). I have never said that everything has been planned to the day (although exact timing was planned up to 9-9-09). More than once, I’ve said that there have been delays; anyone who has read all of my posts already knows this. Also, Jermaine rescheduled his book, because the trial was delayed {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}. Does this mean that Jermaine is not in on the hoax? Well, I guess some people are starting to think that the family is not in on the hoax. I have always said that the family is in on it; so my answer was already given, long before the question was asked {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> If the family does not know about the hoax, then we might as well say that MJ himself doesn’t know about it either! The family has repeatedly said that they know what happened to MJ; so if there is a hoax, then they know about it. And if they don’t know about any hoax, it’s because there is none—instead, the Illuminati got him. Which is it? That’s the multi-million dollar question!!! <!-- sargue/ -->argue/<!-- sargue/ -->
Quote from: TS_comments[img]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Level%205Greetings to you TS.Long time fan,first time poster.Im sure i speak for all here when i say its wonderful to see you back (gave us quite a scare).As you mentioned about this level being a test involving debunking the hoax in favour of the murder theory here are a few questions/theories that you may be able to answer/debunk.In going along with the whole theory of the illuminati finding out about michaels planned hoax and putting in motions to kill michael on the planned hoax day.Here are the questions i would ask1.Why would the date of june 25th be a neccesity at all for the date of death?surely the numerology angle and the significence of the date would be too much of a clue towards hoax believers?In all honesty the date of june 25th has been found to be highly significent of the hoax theory.Why would they not have had him killed a week before?,or the day before?or a week later etc.The significence of the date in question would then be non existant.Which would leave any murder theory more difficult to pinpoint2.With the faking of the ambulance photo now being established,why would it need to be faked at all?surely if a murder was being set up then they could have taken the trouble of having a photographer/team of photographers ready and waiting to snap the money shot of michael en route to hospital.The whole debate on that photo being fake or genuine surely would have not been as viable if a 100% undebunkable genuine photo had been published3.If michael was onto plans of his own murder and had planned the hoax to beat them to the punchline metaphorically speaking.Then surely he wouldnt have left the security of his home so lacking that a assasination team/individual could be sent in unchallenged?would michael have left his children and himself vulnerable to attempts on his life?,especially if he had prior knowledge of the fact?.Lets face it,we know from seeing neverland,that michael knew the importance of keeping himself safe and secure from certain factions of the outside worldThank you for taking the time to read this and i look forward to a reply.and may i add a big hello to all on the forum.Keep up the good work guys,you are all incredible<!-- l -->You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login<!-- l -->
[img]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Level%205Greetings to you TS.Long time fan,first time poster.Im sure i speak for all here when i say its wonderful to see you back (gave us quite a scare).As you mentioned about this level being a test involving debunking the hoax in favour of the murder theory here are a few questions/theories that you may be able to answer/debunk.In going along with the whole theory of the illuminati finding out about michaels planned hoax and putting in motions to kill michael on the planned hoax day.Here are the questions i would ask1.Why would the date of june 25th be a neccesity at all for the date of death?surely the numerology angle and the significence of the date would be too much of a clue towards hoax believers?In all honesty the date of june 25th has been found to be highly significent of the hoax theory.Why would they not have had him killed a week before?,or the day before?or a week later etc.The significence of the date in question would then be non existant.Which would leave any murder theory more difficult to pinpoint2.With the faking of the ambulance photo now being established,why would it need to be faked at all?surely if a murder was being set up then they could have taken the trouble of having a photographer/team of photographers ready and waiting to snap the money shot of michael en route to hospital.The whole debate on that photo being fake or genuine surely would have not been as viable if a 100% undebunkable genuine photo had been published3.If michael was onto plans of his own murder and had planned the hoax to beat them to the punchline metaphorically speaking.Then surely he wouldnt have left the security of his home so lacking that a assasination team/individual could be sent in unchallenged?would michael have left his children and himself vulnerable to attempts on his life?,especially if he had prior knowledge of the fact?.Lets face it,we know from seeing neverland,that michael knew the importance of keeping himself safe and secure from certain factions of the outside worldThank you for taking the time to read this and i look forward to a reply.and may i add a big hello to all on the forum.Keep up the good work guys,you are all incredible<!-- l -->You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login<!-- l -->
By TS: "However, what if I say that the Illuminati found out about his hoax plans, and killed him according to the exact timing that he had planned? Can you debunk this? Did the Illuminati outthink him, or did he outthink the Illuminati? That is the main question of this level."
By MDC: "TS I find it interesting that you ask what if they killed him according to the exact timing he (Michael) had planned. You bypassed someone else planning it altogether. There is always the argument on this forum that no one could have planned this but Michael. Maybe. But there have been times when I have questioned who else could have planned this. There IS the possibility that someone else COULD have if they knew enough about MJ. So if it's MJ's, how would they find out about his plans? The only answer I keep coming back to is either they KNOW MJ personally... or the Neverland raids. Depending on how long he had been planning this, wouldn't he have had notes. This plan is extensive. He couldn't have remembered EVERY detail without writing something down. I mean Neverland was raided more times than a co-eds panty drawer. Surely if it was there, someone would have found it. That would have been a gold mine for Sneddon, don't you think? So more doubts for me. Still I have this nagging feeling that everyone knows what's going on but us, the fans. Like we are being punked or something. Something always holds me back from going completely to the murder theory side. It might just be hope. But hope is tricky and sometimes futile."
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Bare with me I don't make a lot of post but RPM made a good point. The children. I am a mother of 3 children and while I don't have the resources or money that Michael has, if I felt that my life was in danger the first thing I would be to remove my children from immediate danger. I would like to think that Michael would do the same thing. Any parent would want to do the right thing and that would be to move the children out of harms way, right? Michael had waited how many years to have children of his own? He even said that he carried around baby dolls because he wanted a child so bad. We've all heard how he took his children practically out of the womb himself and whisked them away to the safety of his arms. I can not fathom the idea that he the man who made it his life mission to do everything in his power to help children all across the world would confess that his life was in danger but yet do nothing to ensure that his children were safe. I could be wrong, but I just thought I'd share my thoughts.
3. If Michael is dead at all, why we don't have real death picture. Instead we have photoshop posted on youtube and confirmed by Oxman. [/color]
Quote from: "scorpionchik"3. If Michael is dead at all, why we don't have real death picture. Instead we have photoshop posted on youtube and confirmed by Oxman. [/color]My question also.. errrr errrr
