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Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 07:57:59 AM
Hello Everyone,

  This is my first post here and I may ruffle feathers both ways, but I can't help but share my information (not that it even proves one way or another, except that the statement that he had a vein popping is not right). Everyone here tries so hard to look for clues of Michael hoaxing his death and I am #1 not sure if this has been discussed before and #2 not really really looking for those things, but rather have a curious nature about myself and like to look at facts.

  I work in web design and graphics, so the first thing I did when I saw the picture of him in the ambulance and read everyone's take is to capture it and clean it up.
Among all the oddities in the world, I think that I may look at the strangest one everyday when I look at this picture. I hate posting it here, I think that some of you are more daring with copyright infringement than I am, but I am not trying to make money so here goes: I don't think I have to tell you what is wrong with the picture

First photo with line of light removed


Second Photo with line of light removed. enlarged and just MJ face


Third Photo with line of light removed, enlarged and night effect applied: as you can clearly see this is not a vein but a a splash of uneven light/skin tone to go along with that other oddity I am sure you see by now.
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 08:08:30 AM
Whoa where is his nose?? Are you saying these pics are real afterall??? Please i would like your expert opinion..
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 08:24:01 AM
Yes, please share with us their knowledge of the image
What do you think it is an image in Photoshop?
Could it be made and what abnormalities can be found, please explain
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Whoa where is his nose?? Are you saying these pics are real afterall??? Please i would like your expert opinion..


whaaa Leah- Kim , what do you mean where is his nose?? it's still there , right?????
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 08:39:42 AM
What are your thoughts of this picture then?  Real, fake, photochopped?
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 08:44:54 AM
ok, this pic scares me........explain plz :geek:
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 08:48:41 AM
Quote from: "MJhunny"
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Whoa where is his nose?? Are you saying these pics are real afterall??? Please i would like your expert opinion..


whaaa Leah- Kim , what do you mean where is his nose?? it's still there , right?????

Well i am not sure about his nose thats why i asked for her Proffesional opinion.. But if you look at the pictures the Nose looks a different color like it was "Put" there.. And in the last pic she says about "Other odditys" that we would have noticed by now.. And that is what i noticed..
We need the OP to come back and explain!!!!!! PLEASE
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "MJhunny"
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Whoa where is his nose?? Are you saying these pics are real afterall??? Please i would like your expert opinion..


whaaa Leah- Kim , what do you mean where is his nose?? it's still there , right?????

Well i am not sure about his nose thats why i asked for her Proffesional opinion.. But if you look at the pictures the Nose looks a different color like it was "Put" there.. And in the last pic she says about "Other odditys" that we would have noticed by now.. And that is what i noticed..
We need the OP to come back and explain!!!!!! PLEASE


Okay, this will be my final post today because I will be getting ready for the holidays today. I will be back in a day or two.

There are a few trains of thought.
1) It could be an optic illusion, but I find it hard to be since the whole face would be sort of haloed.
2) I am not saying it is for real shopped. No expert should tell you this about any picture. There are always many factors involved with pictures. The odd nose looks like a shadow of a nose above it. It absolutely looks like another nose just over to the side of the nose. What can make this happen? (A: blurred motion and we are pretty sure that the rest of him isn't moving because the whole picture is not haloed, over exposed film and there again the rest of the picture doesn't look that way)

You have to remember, no expert can tell you for sure if a photo was shopped this is opinion you will  have to form on your on with all the facts that you have available.
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 09:05:22 AM
oh.. the one thing I can say. Whether or not MJ is laying there is not something I can answer, but the picture as a whole (aside from that nose) seems to be a whole picture not MJ placed in it.
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 09:09:57 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "MJhunny"
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Whoa where is his nose?? Are you saying these pics are real afterall??? Please i would like your expert opinion..


whaaa Leah- Kim , what do you mean where is his nose?? it's still there , right?????

Well i am not sure about his nose thats why i asked for her Proffesional opinion.. But if you look at the pictures the Nose looks a different color like it was "Put" there.. And in the last pic she says about "Other odditys" that we would have noticed by now.. And that is what i noticed..
We need the OP to come back and explain!!!!!! PLEASE

Yeah I agree Leah-Kim, the colour around and below the nose is a completely different tone to the rest and looks photoshopped/edited in. If the picture was just being lightened to remove shading on the forehead the rest of face  should remain even in skin tone. The pic doesn't look right. Can the person explain please?
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 09:21:41 AM
I DID NOT do anything to this picture but apply a sunset effect after removing that line of light. You can do it yourself, so please don't say I did anything else to it. I posted this for you guys to look at and talk about, not to be blamed for it not looking right. It is what it is. Of course it doesn't look right, that was my point. It isn't a vein but a problem with the pic

Edited to add: My Question is this, (lol.. I guess I lied about that being my last post). Why didn't the photographer clean this up before publishing?
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
I Always wanted to know what the red lines are in the picture? where does it come from?
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 10:25:15 AM
Quote from: "reading_on"
I DID NOT do anything to this picture but apply a sunset effect after removing that line of light. You can do it yourself, so please don't say I did anything else to it. I posted this for you guys to look at and talk about, not to be blamed for it not looking right. It is what it is. Of course it doesn't look right, that was my point. It isn't a vein but a problem with the pic

Edited to add: My Question is this, (lol.. I guess I lied about that being my last post). Why didn't the photographer clean this up before publishing?


I dont think the person was blaming you they maybe misread the original post...
Thanks for posting these pics its definitly interesting to see without that blurred line of light in the way...
I guess the only person who can answer about this picture is the one who took it and photoshopped it originally.. Ben Evasted MJs close friend for many years, The same guy that got the first picture of Murray after he came out of hiding for longer than 2 months..
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Sorry.. guess I am touchy about editing pics. Usually I do it for my own investigating.

I was thinking that possibly his friend knew how this looked and not knowing MJ was in such dire straits wanted to protect him from bad publicity.

Oh, and the red in the photo is just some remnants of the red car
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Re: Not a Vein In The Ambulance Pic
December 22, 2009, 11:43:39 AM
MAYBE IF YOU USE THIS PICTURE? :|
[attachment=0:3hdaqh8u]ambulance photo.jpg[/attachment:3hdaqh8u]
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