Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
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Do, Thank you for this video. Hearing what Michael says during the first minute, reminds me how badly Michael
wanted to disappear. He needed an escape. If he has finally found the happiness he was looking for by remaining
out of the spotlight, than I am all for him never returning. I would rather him remain happy off in his own little
world than return to the public eye only to be ridiculed again. I don't have much faith in the general public. I really
think that most of them would throw stones. Only a small group of fans would truly understand the reasons for the
hoax death. The media and most people couldn't handle it. It is beyond anything they could ever perceive.  :o

Lovely One, I have to agree with you, I don't think many people will understand the possible reasons for his hoaxed death. Maybe because they don't listen what he REALLY has to say about it (didn't we all miss important information Michael was telling us in his lyrics, interviews etc. in the past? I know I did :() Or maybe because the media will feed us (again) with information that isn't correct at all. WE know now that this information does not always match with the truth, buth how many people aren't aware of this? I can understand it if Michael chooses not to come back, but after thinking of it, and IF this really is a hoax, why the 'criminal' part in it? Why all the hoopla with CM, it could have been done easier. I don't know, there has to be something more to it.
What gives me a little bit of hope, is this part in the vid:

Schmuley: You don't want to die young?
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure want my answer?
(YES, YES, I WANT THAT ANSWER!!!)

This is the only quote that can mean a positive or a negative thing to me. That he did make plans back then to withdraw completely in the future (but again, why so BIG and why did we see his children right before he 'disappaered', after wearing a mask all this years?), or did he make plans to reveal (with our help, remember: there's nothing that can't be done, if we raise our voice as one) many rotten things in this world (and maybe to protect himself and his family) by hoaxing his death and at the right time, coming back to start a revolution (I hope I explain it well, it's difficult!)
Thank you for your reply!

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JMseesMJ wrote: Do and Lovely One, I was waiting for someone with a realistic assessment of the situation.

I just hope more people will read your post.

Thank you both !

JMseesMJ, thank you for your reply, like I wrote above to Lovely One (Oh my, I LOVE that song!!!!), I still have a little bit of hope left, but if Michael chooses not to come back, I truly understand it. I still don't know how he managed all of the sh.t in his life for so long. What a strong man he is!

@Sarahli
Thank you Sarahli, you've been a real sunshine to me on this journey, and you are a real 'keeper of the faith'! I love your optimism and it helped me a lot! Hugs!


@ DO ---I saw that where Michael said..."You sure you want my answer?" That right there says alot!!! His reasons for
this hoax death are becoming very clear to me. I hate to say it, but why would he return? After an elaborate scheme
to drop out of the spotlight...why come back??  I hope more people watch this video. Its very important!!!

@JMseesMJ, Thank you for your reply to our posts. We are putting 2 and 2 together here and I am starting to
see things from a new angle. It may not be the angle we want, but if its for the best for Michael, than so be it.
No wonder Jermaine is speaking like this. I bet Michael wants to be left alone. Its starting to look that way.
Right now my thoughts are that Michael is not dead.....He has retired. I will always welcome a return from him
though!!!
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
If he had no plans to return, why did he "die" in such a way as to leave his children with the stigma of their father having died as a wacked out weirdo drug addict and suspected child molester who had lost control over everything in his life...?

Makes no sense at all... to leave that legacy to his kids forever. *shakes head* I do not accept that.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 12:21:11 PM
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No wonder Jermaine is speaking like this. I bet Michael wants to be left alone. Its starting to look that way.
Right now my thoughts are that Michael is not dead.....He has retired

What about the interview with Geraldo in 2005? The way he is telling about his new project, he even tells how much fun he has doing it.Doesn't sound to me as someone who wants to be left alone or retire. :lol:

[youtube:37t4o4sc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgDDCTdMoU&feature=related[/youtube:37t4o4sc]
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
Good point allforlove, MJ states very clearly, in his own words, in the midst of a child molestation accusation trial, that he is, and I quote, "having a lot of fun".

He plans to return. Have no doubt.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
Thank you bec. What about the interview he did in 2008 at his birthday? Esspecially the part at 3.38 min, looks like he had plans to introduce us new stuff. mj_bad/

[youtube:kxiz65tt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVRFS8zcspo[/youtube:kxiz65tt]
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
mmmhmmm, you can't ignore this evidence. These are good reminders of all the work we have done and all the information we have uncovered. It was all put on the web for us to find, it is not a coincidence that all this media has been put out there. He is coming back. The King will Return.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 02:28:29 PM
Hi Bec and Allforlove,

You're both right, there is also a lot of evidence that points in the direction of a 'come back'. That's why I still haven't lost all hope!! And still wanting the answer to the question of Schmuley!!!!
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure you want my answer?

OFCOURSE!!!

But it still could go the other way, after Jermaines tweets. Michael could have changed his mind you know?
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 02:36:39 PM
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Hi Bec and Allforlove,

You're both right, there is also a lot of evidence that points in the direction of a 'come back'. That's why I still haven't lost all hope!! And still wanting the answer to the question of Schmuley!!!!
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure you want my answer?

OFCOURSE!!!

But it still could go the other way, after Jermaines tweets. Michael could have changed his mind you know?

Anything is possible but we know how much of a perfectionist Michael is. I'm sure he has considered all possiblilities and problems he could face in time.So, I don't think this made anything different. In fact, it could very well be a part of his plan. bearhug
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
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@ DO ---I saw that where Michael said..."You sure you want my answer?" That right there says alot!!! His reasons for
this hoax death are becoming very clear to me. I hate to say it, but why would he return? After an elaborate scheme
to drop out of the spotlight...why come back?? I hope more people watch this video. Its very important!!!

@JMseesMJ, Thank you for your reply to our posts. We are putting 2 and 2 together here and I am starting to
see things from a new angle. It may not be the angle we want, but if its for the best for Michael, than so be it.
No wonder Jermaine is speaking like this. I bet Michael wants to be left alone. Its starting to look that way.
Right now my thoughts are that Michael is not dead.....He has retired. I will always welcome a return from him
though!!!

@Lovely One, again you are making a lot of sense! Although I didn't feel this way untill very recently. What Bec, Allforlove and all other members put up on evidence, we can't ignore that either, but like I said in my previous post, Michael could have changed his mind. But on the other hand, why start all this and don't finish it?? AAAAAARGGHHHH, what a puzzle, it seems like the Da Vinci code, I better start to watch that movie!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 02:44:43 PM
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Hi Bec and Allforlove,

You're both right, there is also a lot of evidence that points in the direction of a 'come back'. That's why I still haven't lost all hope!! And still wanting the answer to the question of Schmuley!!!!
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure you want my answer?

OFCOURSE!!!

But it still could go the other way, after Jermaines tweets. Michael could have changed his mind you know?

I always believed in a come back. And I'm 100% sure that Michael planned a come back. Because without it, this would not be Thriller II and how would he "shock the world" like he says? I still believe that he wants to come back but after Jermaine's tweets, I started to think that the return might have cancelled by the FBI because of protection issues OR it might have been pushed back. I personally do not believe that Michael is pulling the strings all himself in the hoax. FBI is definitely helping him out and they can change things when it comes to protection and privacy issues. So what I believe for now is, even if he is going to come back, it is not going to happen soon but in a couple of years. I'm not expecting a sudden BAM for this summer or for this year. But of course, these are just theories and any of us know this as a fact. So we'll wait and see all together.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
omg, thank you so much for this video allforlove. I think I just fell in love with him all over again  :oops: His smile, his laughter, his whole attitude. *sigh*

But sorry, I'm off topic here. I still believe there will be a comback. Now I know this might just be wishful thinking on my part. I don't want to think of a life in which I will never see this sweet man again. There is enough evidence that he will come back. Why would he leave so many clues and then not return? If he really was intending to never return he would have never left clues and just left everybody believe he is really dead. Why would he go through so much trouble? Do you think that he just did this so that his fans would know he is still there? That's nonsense imo. If he really wanted to be left alone he would have just been gone without any clues.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
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omg, thank you so much for this video allforlove. I think I just fell in love with him all over again  :oops: His smile, his laughter, his whole attitude. *sigh*

But sorry, I'm off topic here. I still believe there will be a comback. Now I know this might just be wishful thinking on my part. I don't want to think of a life in which I will never see this sweet man again. There is enough evidence that he will come back. Why would he leave so many clues and then not return? If he really was intending to never return he would have never left clues and just left everybody believe he is really dead. Why would he go through so much trouble? Do you think that he just did this so that his fans would know he is still there? That's nonsense imo. If he really wanted to be left alone he would have just been gone without any clues.

Hi steph22, just for you this pic, so you can keep on watching him. bearhug

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
awwww thank you honey. That's sweet. I really love this guy. :)
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
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awwww thank you honey. That's sweet. I really love this guy. :)

You're not the only one. I sure can't get enough of him. moonwalk_/
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
I know. :) we all love him so much and that's the reason why he needs to come back. There are so many people out here that love him dearly. I hope he knows that
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:07:46 PM
For you Do  bearhug  that's so sweet what you have said Bless you....being positive and keeping the faith with others helps me as well, my love to you  :)
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:31:24 PM
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Good point allforlove, MJ states very clearly, in his own words, in the midst of a child molestation accusation trial, that he is, and I quote, "having a lot of fun".

He plans to return. Have no doubt.

Very interesting observation Bec.
Someone said that Michael hoaxed his entire life. It's not that difficult to imagine this, after all if we are to believe what others say, he wanted his life to be some kind of show. Well and this is what his life is.

I can't imagine no return, I know it's the craziest thing in the world to be done  ....but after all it's Michael Jackson we are talking about  mj_dance/
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:37:11 PM
Lets hope you guys are right!! You are bringing my spirits back up for hope for a return.
Unless well, like Do said, he might have changed his mind.....It is a huge puzzle!!

I was sitting here thinking that IF perhaps Michael was trying to 'retire' as the King of Pop, than
maybe it could be a good reason for all of the smiles and laughs from his family. Also Jermaine
laughing in that interview...saying he knows who is responsible could mean that he knows who is
responsible for helping Michael escape the limelight (so he chuckles to himself) Same for the
memorial when his family is smiling and laughing. Maybe they are happy that Michael got his
freedom finally and the memorial was kind of like a party...THATS one of the reasons I say that
he could have retired.

What doesnt make sense is what Do and Bec was stating. WHY go through all of the hard stuff
just to disappear AND also, why leave that kind of legacy. A drugged out pop-star who died of
an overdose. Yea, doesn't make sense.  Man , this just gets more puzzling as time goes on!!!  crash/
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
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maybe it could be a good reason for all of the smiles and laughs from his family. Also Jermaine
laughing in that interview...saying he knows who is responsible could mean that he knows who is
responsible for helping Michael escape the limelight (so he chuckles to himself

To me all the laughing seems to be of someone who knows there's gonna be a big surprise. Also almost like a child who knows a secret and having a hard time to hide it. geek/
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
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Lets hope you guys are right!! You are bringing my spirits back up for hope for a return.
Unless well, like Do said, he might have changed his mind.....It is a huge puzzle!!

I was sitting here thinking that IF perhaps Michael was trying to 'retire' as the King of Pop, than
maybe it could be a good reason for all of the smiles and laughs from his family. Also Jermaine
laughing in that interview...saying he knows who is responsible could mean that he knows who is
responsible for helping Michael escape the limelight (so he chuckles to himself) Same for the
memorial when his family is smiling and laughing. Maybe they are happy that Michael got his
freedom finally and the memorial was kind of like a party...THATS one of the reasons I say that
he could have retired.

What doesnt make sense is what Do and Bec was stating. WHY go through all of the hard stuff
just to disappear AND also, why leave that kind of legacy. A drugged out pop-star who died of
an overdose. Yea, doesn't make sense.  Man , this just gets more puzzling as time goes on!!!  crash/

This can be the answer maybe.

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I always believed in a come back. And I'm 100% sure that Michael planned a come back. Because without it, this would not be Thriller II and how would he "shock the world" like he says? I still believe that he wants to come back but after Jermaine's tweets, I started to think that the return might have cancelled by the FBI because of protection issues OR it might have been pushed back. I personally do not believe that Michael is pulling the strings all himself in the hoax. FBI is definitely helping him out and they can change things when it comes to protection and privacy issues. So what I believe for now is, even if he is going to come back, it is not going to happen soon but in a couple of years. I'm not expecting a sudden BAM for this summer or for this year. But of course, these are just theories and any of us know this as a fact. So we'll wait and see all together.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:55:59 PM
It's all so confusing. I think Michael really had plans to return to the stage. I read comments about it since 2006. Have you read these articles?
I still hope to see him perform at least once more, but sometimes gives a discouragement!


Caption: May 30, 2007 - Las Vegas, Nevada....

Jackson Moving To Europe To Resume Career
                              
LATEST: Pop superstar MICHAEL JACKSON, who has been living in Bahrain since he was acquitted of child molestation charges, is moving to Europe. Jackson has fired his business managers and has hired a New York City-based firm to oversee his business affairs. RAYMONE K BAIN released a statement on Tuesday (27JUN06), announcing she has been named general manager of the new Michael Jackson Company, which will replace Jackson's MJJ Productions. She said Jackson is planning public appearances and will begin performing again. Bain said in the statement, "He is reviewing numerous offers to tour musically, which he plans to embark upon within the next several months. "Mr Jackson has previously announced plans to record an album, which he predicts will be released in 2007." Bain says Jackson has severed times with his Bahraini lawyers, longtime accountants and business managers and has hired a firm "known for restructurings and turnarounds." The revamping is "the first of a sweeping restructuring of his personal and business affairs" and Bain says "he is continuing to build his management team and other appointments will be forthcoming." Jackson is currently in Ireland on "personal business" and proceeding with plans to relocate.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... er_1000982


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Caption: May 30, 2007 - Las Vegas, Nevada....

Jackson Returns To Us
                              
MICHAEL JACKSON has ended his self-imposed exile and set up a new home in America - 19 months after he left following his acquittal on child molestation charges. The superstar has lived a mythical existence since departing the US, spending time in Bahrain, Japan, England and Ireland. Jackson returned to the US to attend JAMES BROWN's funeral earlier this month (JAN07) - and his spokeswoman RAYMONE K BAIN has confirmed the star is sticking around and planning a comeback. In a conference call with Jackson, Bain said, "I can confirm that he is in the United States. We don't give out information regarding our client's whereabouts because of safety, and this is just an ongoing policy." The singer also revealed plans to begin his music comeback at two fan appreciation events in Tokyo, Japan. He said, "My friends and fans in Japan have been so supportive of me and my family for many, many years. My fans in Japan helped me achieve historic milestones in the music industry."

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 04:59:26 PM
*reminder
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 13, 2011, 11:22:32 PM
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Michael could have changed his mind. But on the other hand, why start all this and don't finish it??

That's it right there. If anyone has any doubts at all, just read this and think about it.

This is his life's work. This is Thriller II.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 14, 2011, 12:48:19 AM
I've come to a point where I will always have hope. Sometimes things don't go as planned, no matter how well you plan it - if we could all have total control of fate, then the word fate would not exist. It would simply be control.  I have hope that there will be some big ground breaking news about Michael this summer. Whether or not he is actually going to reveal himself in person, I don't know...but I have hope. But that hope will not be shattered if he does not show up in person to the world...maybe things have to be shifted, like how when Chess is played - the strategy has to be sometimes recalculated and new plans have to be immediately realized...for the final outcome to surface. I am very hopeful! Yet I will not be shot down should it not happen the way we want the time we want!! beerchug
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: May 14, 2011, 01:06:18 AM
if there's a poll for this one, i'd vote YES. MJ said history books lie. he wouldn't add to that lie, methinks. he'll set it straight - for the record...and make sure his biography is written factually, for a change.  plus, if he merely wanted a private life, there are much simpler ways of going. of course they won't generate as much hoopla as the method he used, but i think the truths can only be told in this context - when he comes back.
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