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When I heard Ms. Katherine saying "My son is gone forever" I believed Michael is dead you guys.....I just can't see his Mother acting, saying he's gone when in fact he's alive. Does this make sense to any of you?Or maybe his Mother doesn't know about the hoax? Is this possible? TS once suggested this but we've been told Michael loved and respected her so much, he couldn't do this to his own mother could he?
But I lose hope because she is his mother, how can she lie?!it's against her religion to lie, it's against commone sense to lie about your child's death.I prefer to think she doesn't know about the hoax (another unbelievable option...but maybe she did something to upset Michael prior to his death....I don't know what else to think :? )
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"But I lose hope because she is his mother, how can she lie?!it's against her religion to lie, it's against commone sense to lie about your child's death.I prefer to think she doesn't know about the hoax (another unbelievable option...but maybe she did something to upset Michael prior to his death....I don't know what else to think :? )i don't know that much about her religion but from the story souza recanted about a family member and jw , it might be that if he chose some other religion that to katherine he might be as good as dead. maybe fordtocarr would know. :?
Quote from: "suspicious mind"Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"But I lose hope because she is his mother, how can she lie?!it's against her religion to lie, it's against commone sense to lie about your child's death.I prefer to think she doesn't know about the hoax (another unbelievable option...but maybe she did something to upset Michael prior to his death....I don't know what else to think :? )i don't know that much about her religion but from the story souza recanted about a family member and jw , it might be that if he chose some other religion that to katherine he might be as good as dead. maybe fordtocarr would know. :?You know...that could be true!! I didn't think of that. If he became another religion, she could feel as though he is spiritually dead. WOW. that's a good one. I had tended to think she was acting, and this a movie script that will be explained at some time in the future. There are things she does that bothers me anyhow, as with selling flowers for Mother's day. She tried to say that they can be gifts any time..as thought it's not a holiday thing, but it is promoted with her pic and Mother's day written there. I'd say maybe Katherine left the Witnesses, but, at we did see her taking Michael's kids to a Kingdom hall ..although some time ago now. And presumably the kids have celebrated birthdays and holidays, even though they live with her! So, I'm not putting a lot into Katherine not lying anylonger either. I'm not suppose to judge, and really, I can't know her heart, and do only know what is reported and we know Michael taught us against that!But, I really wonder if he'd join another religion too, because of sending his kids with Katherine and them going to the hall. Plus it has been reported of Michael going to meetings and conventions again not too long ago. So, it's still just a mystery. I know Katherine is one thing that bothers a lot of us, me included. But, either Michael is gone for real or she's lying, or she's left the religion, or she's getting around a lie with words, like, "dead" as in spiritually...or it's a movie. I know this is no help, and believe me if I could help, I would, but she is a puzzle. One that concerns me and breaks my heart.I still choose to think this is going to be a movie eventually and she's going with that.
I think I've read that it was baptist. But she was disillusioned when there was immorality and adultery happening within the church. In her book [been a long time since I've read it] she said that she shared her heart regarding spiritual things with MJ, but after he left the witnesses, she never broached the subject of Jehovah with him again. Because of Witness doctrine.To me, that would be real grief right there, at losing such closeness and intimacy with your child.
Gina - your personality appears to be one that leads by emotion. You are valuable to society as you keep us connecting a little more to the emotional aspect of life instead of just cold, hard reality. However, it's important not to be swayed totally be feeling because feelings can be up and down and a bit deceptive.I do understand why you think the way you do with this as Katherine keeps me puzzled too. However, when she was interviewed by Oprah she showed more emotion over the 2005 trial and the false allegations rather than Michaels "death". That's why I think this has something to do with clearing his name.Taking this from a mothers point of view, if this hoax were to clean up Michael's image, to bring vindication, and the help put Michael back on top where he belongs, I think she would be 100% vested. If this were because Michael was in some sort of danger, she would be extremely worried about him and would do whatever was asked of her. If this is for a movie, I think she would do this for Michael if the reasons (to bring awareness, love, healing to the world) were pure enough. And we cannot forget that she's changed her story more than once too. And we cannot forget that she has to be worried about the backlash when Michael returns. If by some extreme cosmic chance that Michael is dead, I wonder emotionally how she would have been strong enough to go shopping. Not that she couldn't or wouldn't but she didn't look overly upset in the videos that we've seen of her shopping. That was what - one or two days after Michael's death. It just seems like she would have had a harder time keeping it together emotionally. That was her beloved son. So, that is what I keep thinking about.Blessings.
On the other hand Jermaine says Katherine is guided by private conversations with Michael and i don't think she has psychic powers. So maybe she is just too emotional and cries easily that's all.
Of course Katherine knows about the hoax and I do believe that she's talking like this because she couldn't see Michael too much during the last 2 years and this must be so hard for her not to see her son. She's going with the scenerio Michael gave to her. She's doing what she was told. And her longing for Michael is also giving her these emotions.