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Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
April 24, 2011, 12:45:51 PM
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Bilderberg 2011 conference location and date revealed: from June 9-12, the Grand Hotel Kempinski in St. Moritz, Switzerland

by NewWorldOrder on March 21, 2011
It’s confirmed that the shadowy group known as Bilderberg Group will be gathering this year for its annual meeting at the resort city of St. Moritz, in southeastern Switzerland, June 9-12, but they will have a lot of company. St. Moritz is a short distance from Davos, the site of the regular high-priced meeting of thousands of bankers, political leaders and other notables called the World Economic Forum. But unlike at Davos, where the press is always welcome, Bilderberg still tries to maintain absolute secrecy.

As their exact location for 2011 they choose the Grand Hotel Kempinski in St. Moritz, a luxurious 5 star hotel right at the Mauritius spring, the actual root of St. Moritz itself. It is the only 5 star hotel in St. Moritz and immediately opposite of the cable car station to the ski region Corviglia. The hotel has a direct access to the St. Moritz spa. The sports center and local swimming lakes are within easy walking distance. It was no surprise when trying to book a room around 9-12 June, a message appeared the hotel was closed at this period. This is the usual situation for every previous hotel where the Bilderbergers held their annual conferences.

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Bilderberg has met in Switzerland four times over the years but never in the same city. Normally, when their sibling in crime, the Trilateral Commission (TC), meets in North America, Bilderberg does, too. This year, the TC will meet in Washington on April 8 to 10, but the Bilderbergers are avoiding the United States, in what may be an effort to fool the press. Bilderberg has been called the most exclusive and secretive club in the world. To be admitted, you have to own a multinational bank, a multinational corporation or a country. Since its first meeting in 1953, it has been attended by the top powerbrokers, financial minds and world leaders. The Bilderbergers hope that part of their common agenda with the “Trilateralists” will be accomplished by the time they meet: a U.S. invasion of Libya to generate increased Middle East turmoil so America can go to war with Iran, on Israel’s behalf.

As has happened for several years, the Bilderbergers will blubber about how “ evil nationalists” are blocking their efforts to achieve world government. They will order oil prices to climb so desperate Americans might be made more willing to surrender sovereignty to a world government. They will promote wars for profit, and will advance the call for a world government to impose peace—as if peace can be imposed. It is ironic that Bilderberg attendees love Switzerland so much because they are poles apart politically from Switzerland, which declared itself a non-interventionist neutral country four centuries ago. It has been involved in none of the world’s bloody wars since.

The Bilderbergers can expect to be loudly greeted by several European news outlets and some of the U.S. independent media. In Europe, a major metropolitan daily newspapers from Paris, London and other cities gave major coverage to Bilderberg. But The Washington Post, The New York Times and The Los Angeles Times and their numerous chains will submit to muzzling because their top representatives are actual Bilderberg participants themselves.

credits go to Jim Tucker, american free press
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Bilderberg 2011 plans for more economic chaos and tax increases

by NewWorldOrder on January 31, 2011
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The fall of nations is a real possibility, pain for others, Brazil to wage trade wars, Ireland hurt with disastrous borrowing policy, the fault for tragedy is upon the banks, Europe not safe from bankruptcies, the Fed strives to control, the dilemmas of free trade, globalization, and terrorism, the wealth of paraihs hidden in Swiss banks.

Between now and the end of the year, most likely in the fall, we’ll see major financial and economic problems in Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Belgium, Spain and Italy. Those events will sorely test Germany, France, Holland and Austria.

Over and over we hear announcements from Brazil of trade wars. Brazil is deliberately reining in their currency, the real, due to its strength. They have imposed reserve requirements on domestic banks’ foreign exchange positions. These are taxes on investments and de facto currency controls. Such actions are very good moves that cause indirect higher gold prices.

In Ireland harsh measures are being taken. Public spending will be cut 12%. Added to that is a tax increase that would be a reduction of $7.8 billion. Public services and the minimum wage will be cut as well. The wealthy will pay more and child support payments will fall.

While the above troubles manifest themselves the US goes merrily on its way like nothing was wrong. Americans have been pre-propagandized, as they were under stimulus – one into believing a recovery is in progress. We don’t share that prediction. The Irish and others understand their problems, but Americans cannot come to grips with them.

Like other members of the Euro zone, Ireland discovered they could borrow cheaply under one interest rate fits all. This policy, which we predicted 14 years ago, would be disastrous, was disastrous for Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy, and Belgium. Needless to say, the leverage provided by cheap money brought on speculation, particularly in real estate, that brought on today’s problems. Yes, speculation by individuals was a problem, but as in other countries, the problems really lie with the banks, which are really responsible for these tragedies. They should have never made the loans in the first place. Stupidly, the Irish government bailed out the banks just like Greece did. They should have defaulted and allowed the banks to fail. The banks were more than complacent. Just as we see now in the US the banks have at least temporarily been bailed out and depositors guaranteed that their savings are safe. There are also the stimulus programs everyone else has tried as well, that we have seen ultimately don’t work. That is because they are geared to bail out the financial sector and not the economy.

Ireland’s budget will be followed by equally harsh budgets guided by the IMF, which will lead to decades of poverty, as bad as the 800 year reign of Britain over the Emerald Isle. PM Brian Cowen and Finance Minister Brian Lenihan sold out the Irish people to British bankers. The vultures are circling the Republic to prepare for years of future enslavement. Many have called it economic treason.

Allied Irish Bank and Anglo Irish Bank caused all the problems and now the Irish people have to bail them out. A then secret meeting was held at which AG Paul Gallagher sat in as adviser to the government and Dermot Gleeson, AIB Chairman and former AG representing the banks. Both are Illuminists and members of the Bilderberg Group. These two and the PM and FM sold out Ireland to save the banks owned and controlled by the British. They have put the Irish people on the hook for $600 billion. In addition, government bought $70 billion in toxic bonds containing real estate from these banks. These banks are owned by British, French, German banks that are controlled by the Black Nobility and among them the Rothschilds and Queen Beatrix of Holland, an ardent Bilderberg. Her father, Prince Bernard, was a former Colonel in Hitler’s SS.

The only thing left for Ireland to do is to default and leave the euro returning to the Irish punt. They should also leave the EU. They should also end fractional reserve banking, which would allow government to issue debt free, interest free money with gold backing. They should kick Royal Dutch Shell out of the Irish offshore gas fields and much more. This in part was what we told the Greeks to do.

We see a rocky year in Europe that could end in bankruptcies. The efforts to bailout Greece and Ireland and now Portugal and Spain, will increase debt throughout Europe and lead to all nations having problems. The deal struck with Ireland to cover bank insolvency will only increase the debt in the long run and not solve the problem. There is no effort of debt restructuring because the banks refuse to take losses. This attitude and policy is carried forward in all governments via fellow Bilderberg connections. The system has to be changed and purged, but they won’t hear of that. Again, we remind everyone it was the banks that were and are responsible for the condition that the Western world is in today and now they want the public to bail them out. The banks are an extension of the Fed in the US and the Fed was the moving party. They lowered interest rates eventually to zero and it was they who increased money and credit by 17% to 18% for an extended period of time. The Fed created the debt bubble and all the damage you see is a result of that. They are now using tactics, which they know will not work, but they do not know what else to do. It is all about buying time and covering up what they have done. As a result not only did banks over leverage, but so did corporations and individuals, not to mention speculators. Now that bank leverage is down from 70 to 1 to 40 to 1, when 9 to 1 is normal. They are getting a high enough return from the Fed that they have cut lending by 25% or more to small and medium sized businesses. Such antics can only impede recovery. We have been told since last June that lending would increase. By the Fed’s own admission it has increased by a very small amount. Thus, our conclusion is that the Fed is deliberately restricting lending in order to keep banks away from risky loans.

These Fed policies and those of the ECB are designed to extend problems rather than solve them, which tells us there is no solution. Look at what has been done in Greece. No solution, just patchwork and austerity in order to delay the problems. Ireland’s bailout is a carbon copy. Such programs can only bring on default, which we expect to occur later this year. In March or April the Irish election result could turn everything upside down. That could cause a run on other sick economies. This grand design for nations to be interconnected could eventually cause all of them to collapse like dominoes. If the US, the UK and Europe are in trouble the entire world is in trouble.

QE1 and QE2, as well as TARP and other programs were only designed to bail out the financial sector in Europe as well as the US. As we predicted last May there would be QE2 and then QE3. The aggregate spending $2.5 trillion each time, as we saw in QE1. In QE2 the pork laden extension of the Bush tax cuts supplied the $868 billion to assist the fed in keeping the economy and the financial sector afloat. After expenses the Fed returns its profits back to the Treasury. That then isn’t a major problem. What is the problem is that the owners of the Fed control all aspects of financial and economic life. They do not get inside information; they create it. What these banks and brokerage houses do is make mega-money because they really control the system. That is what the Fed is all about – control. Can you imagine trading departments at major brokerage firms and banks for months never have a losing day trading? We were professional traders for 25 years – that is simply impossible unless it involves illegal activity. The owners of the Fed have a license to steal. They created the credit crisis and the taxpayer now is subsidizing them so they can make even more wealth. All this happens because people do not understand fractional banking and the true role of the Fed, which is to loot America.

The pork laden tax bill may temporarily help the economy, but QE2 will only flow to the Treasury and the financial sector. As we have said before the Fed could end up owning all of the Treasury debt. These desperate actions cannot help but force foreign buyers to vacate the market. These activities of the Fed and the fiscal irresponsibility of government in time can only create more inflation.

The spent and borrow policy is totally profligate and will have to be paid for by future generations, if not defaulted upon.

Then there is the horrible concept of free trade, globalization and terrorism. Today anything you have to say that government disagrees with labels you a terrorist. Government tells us danger lurks everywhere. These fears in part are neutralized by the good deeds being done by transnational conglomerates. If they provide jobs and opportunities in the second and third world’s there supposedly will be less chance of conflict with terrorists and others who disagree with US policy. Everything is supposed to have a global solution. The cost for this over the past 11 years has been the loss of 8.5 million good paying jobs and 42,400 businesses that will never return unless we institute tariffs on goods and services. Of course, in this process these transnationals get filthy rich and avoid some $750 billion in taxes. That is if they are able to pull off their latest tax-free caper. This in part is what the new world order is all about. Destroy the economies of Europe and the US and force them to accept world government. These are part of the group of people who want to dictate how you will live – every facet of your life. This process destroys the sovereignty of the nation state. Their functions are taken over by the World Bank, IMF, BIS and the WTO.
We are then beset with the privately owned Federal Reserve whose power stretches worldwide. Recent legislation makes the Fed a financial and monetary all encompassing monopoly. The Fed from its inception usurped the power of the Constitution and the US Treasury. The IOU’s, Treasury bonds, are sold to the Fed for a digital entry, the value of which is created out of thin air. For this the Fed receives interest paid by US taxpayers. Funds are used by the Fed on a fractional basis multiplying profits. That means interest is paid indefinitely unless the bonds are redeemed.

Today as a solution to poor bank lending we see austerity programs whose creation go back centuries. The enforcer today is the IMF, which in its processes becomes a dictatorial power of its own. In the austerity process comes privatization or the looting of assets owned by a sovereign state in the name of repatriation of debt. Of course, the buyers at $0.30 on the dollar are transnational conglomerates, part of the worldwide Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission. These tactics are reminiscent of the slogan used over the entrance of German concentration camps, “Arbeit Macht Frei.” “Work will make you free”. Truly something befitting George Orwell’s “1984”. This is the mentally that we are dealing with here. This cartel of bankers controls all these institutions and has for hundreds of years in one form or another. The idea is to bring on perpetual economic and financial crisis, so that the IMF’s work is never completed. A form of debt bondage, which is supposed to be stability. The IMF may be the new world order’s Gestapo, which sets up formerly sovereign states as supplicant members of world government. The goal ultimately is a world bank to control all nations monetarily and financially. The stepping-stone to this condition is the BIS, the Bank for International Settlements.

What people have to understand is that events do not happen by chance and there are no coincidences. Every major event is planned as are many other smaller ones. A good example was the Treaty of Versailles, which was essentially constructed by European and US bankers. They were the ones who handled the reparations that deliberately stripped Germany of its ability to economically and financially survive. This is the cabal that never negotiates in good faith. These were the frontrunners of today’s corporatist fascists. In the 1930s to survive in Germany you were either a Bolshevik or a National Socialist NAZI. That is somewhat like the conditions we have in America today in our two party system. Hitler was born at Versailles and the defeat of Germany opened the war against the people of the world in the form of globalization. The result was the IMF, UN, World Bank and the World Trade Organization. That gave the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, and eventually the European Central Bank a license to steal. Today it is the distraction of terrorism and assassinations that keep the public’s attention somewhere else. Let this all be a lesson to you. Nothing is ever as it seems to be.

Full credits to Jim Tucker and Bob Chapman from The International Forecaster
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
April 25, 2011, 10:13:48 PM
every dictator and genocidal to found in Switzerland to a perfect partner can wash money freely and achieve strategic resources as did Germany in World War II
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
April 26, 2011, 05:51:56 AM
I am more worried about Europe this time.
The last two meetings were held in Greece and Spain.
How convenient that afterwards their economies (almost) collapsed and Europe had to invent a tax payers safety' balloon for them.

Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg are those smaller financial markets in that order in western Europe that come next after London, UK.
What if Switzerland will be weakened, too, to reinforce London as the supermarket for financial transactions? London is under control already. Switzerland not really.
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
April 26, 2011, 03:36:15 PM
If the goal is to have a one world currency (and it seems so) then it's explains why so many countries are losing control over their economies. What has happened in Lybia is telling as well.
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
April 26, 2011, 08:08:27 PM
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Sarahli wrote:

If the goal is to have a one world currency (and it seems so) then it's explains why so many countries are losing control over their economies. What has happened in Lybia is telling as well.


It is surprising that on March 19, two days of the adoption of the resolution 1973, Libyan opposition decided to create a "Central Bank". Gaddafi decided to promote, relying on its Central Bank reserves ($200 billion and 144 tonnes of gold), the dinar of gold as a currency of the African Union to replace the dollar and the euro. This initiative makes it clear the accusation of Sarkozy against Libya as "a threat to the financial security of mankind". It explains why the opposition was quick to create, rather than an army, a Central Bank. There is nothing more dangerous for the international financial centres than a Central Bank that dares to generate liquidity out of the world powers
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
April 27, 2011, 07:35:34 AM
I hope they discuss adjusting HAARP :evil:  They need to turn the volume down on these weather anomalies.  Too many disasters.  They are killing us off systematically.  No need to do that.  There's enough money to go around.  If not do what you usually do,... PRINT SOME :evil:
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 06:16:45 AM
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Bilderberg Meetings

The 59th Bilderberg Meeting will be held in St. Moritz, Switzerland from 9 - 12 June 2011. The Conference will deal mainly with Challenges for Growth: Innovation and Budgetary Discipline, the Euro and Challenges for the European Union, the role of Emerging Economies, Social Networks: Connectivity and Security Issues, New Challenges in the Middle East, Conflict Areas, Demographic Challenges, China, Switzerland: Can it remain successful in the future?
Approximately 130 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.

Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period.
The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems - from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other.
Thus the concept of  a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions  is still - even increasingly - critical.

What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow  participants to speak their minds openly and freely.
In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced.

Bilderberg's only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-eight conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press.  Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.

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Participants:
Lionel Richie is said to have performed.

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Swiss participants (pharmaceutical, life science and chemical industry saying hello):
Switzerland
# Brabeck-Letmathe, Peter, Chairman, Nestlé S.A.
# Groth, Hans, Senior Director, Healthcare Policy & Market Access, Oncology Business Unit, Pfizer Europe
# Janom Steiner, Barbara, Head of the Department of Justice, Security and Health, Canton
# Kudelski, André, Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group SA
# Leuthard, Doris, Federal Councillor
# Schmid, Martin, President, Government of the Canton Grisons
# Schweiger, Rolf, Ständerat
# Soiron, Rolf, Chairman of the Board, Holcim Ltd., Lonza Ltd.
# Vasella, Daniel L., Chairman, Novartis AG
# Witmer, Jürg, Chairman, Givaudan SA and Clariant AG


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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 12:04:54 PM
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Sarahli wrote:

If the goal is to have a one world currency (and it seems so) then it's explains why so many countries are losing control over their economies. What has happened in Lybia is telling as well.


It is surprising that on March 19, two days of the adoption of the resolution 1973, Libyan opposition decided to create a "Central Bank". Gaddafi decided to promote, relying on its Central Bank reserves ($200 billion and 144 tonnes of gold), the dinar of gold as a currency of the African Union to replace the dollar and the euro. This initiative makes it clear the accusation of Sarkozy against Libya as "a threat to the financial security of mankind". It explains why the opposition was quick to create, rather than an army, a Central Bank. There is nothing more dangerous for the international financial centres than a Central Bank that dares to generate liquidity out of the world powers

You know, I'm not sure anything of consequence is going on in Libya at all.  In fact, I think it may all be a hoax.  And I'm not alone in thinking that.

Here's just a small bit from the following forum:

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Re: Egypt Revolution

Postby simonshack » February 20th, 2011, 3:37 pm
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    This photograph, obtained by The Associated Press outside Libya and taken by an individual not employed by AP, shows people gathering during recent days' unrest in Benghazi, Libya. (AP Photo) EDITOR'S NOTE: THE AP HAS NO WAY OF INDEPENDENTLY VERIFYING THE EXACT CONTENT, LOCATION OR DATE OF THIS IMAGE.
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Ooh - how very correct and professional for the Associated Press to publish this disclaimer ! :P

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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 12:25:17 PM
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You know, I'm not sure anything of consequence is going on in Libya at all.  In fact, I think it may all be a hoax.  And I'm not alone in thinking that.

It is not a hoax. Khadafi is recruiting soldiers from other countries.
This is a destabilization issue for North Africa.
Just because your media do not report on this war does not make it inexistant, less bloody and less dirty.
Use your instincts and the web instead. It's all there.
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 12:36:26 PM
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You know, I'm not sure anything of consequence is going on in Libya at all.  In fact, I think it may all be a hoax.  And I'm not alone in thinking that.

It is not a hoax. Khadafi is recruiting soldiers from other countries.
This is a destabilization issue for North Africa.
Just because your media do not report on this war does not make it inexistant, less bloody and less dirty.
Use your instincts and the web instead. It's all there.

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Please provide links or supporting information on your assertions about Khadfi.
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 02:17:50 PM
not a hoax, nor is it a hoax that these alleged rebels are supported by NATO and the next news was overshadowed by the "death" of Bin Laden


Monday, may 02, 2011 / 10: 09 pm
Younger son of Gaddafi and three grandchildren are killed in a bombing of NATO
By W.G. Dunlop
Tripoli/ManaguaAFP

The younger son of Colonel Muammar Qaddafi, Saif al Arab, as well as three of his grandchildren were killed Saturday in a bombing of NATO, once the Atlantic Alliance and the opposition rejected an invitation by the Libyan leader to negotiate.


"The House of Saif al Arab Gaddafi (...), the youngest son of the Guide (Muammar Qadhafi), was attacked with powerful means." "The Guide and his wife were at home with friends and relatives" and he is safely, said the spokesman for the Libyan Government, Ibrahim Musa, at a Conference of press in Tripoli.


"The attack caused death, as a martyr, brother Saif al Arab (...)" "and the three grandchildren of the Guide", added the spokesman.


Saif al Arab was 29 years old, he added.


"The same guide is good health." He was not injured. "His wife is also good health and was not injured, but other people do", said.


"This is an operation directly aiming to kill the leader of this country," he said.


The spokesman had previously escorted journalists to see the remains of a House bombed in Tripoli, where the degree of destruction was such that one could hardly imagine that there had been survivors.


The Saturday night were heard in Tripoli three explosions from the sector of Bab at the Aziziya, where is the complex that houses the services of the Libyan leader.


NATO confirmed that it had bombed the sector of Bab at the Aziziya, in Tripoli, but did not confirm the death of Saif al-Gaddafi Arab.


"NATO continued its strikes against military installations of the Gaddafi regime including attacks against a known building of command and control in the area of Bab at the Aziziya, shortly after six in the evening on Saturday in Tripoli this evening," he said in a statement.


"I am aware of unconfirmed information from media according to which some members of the Gaddafi family could have died," says the communiqué general Charles Bouchard, Commander of the "Unified guard" operation.


"We regret any loss of lives, notably those of innocent civilians," he added.


However, "all the goals of NATO are military in nature and are clearly linked to systematic attacks by the Gaddafi regime against the Libyan people and populated areas." "We do not aim to individuals", he stressed Bouchard.


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez denounced the "murder" of the younger son of the Libyan leader and three of her grandchildren, and reiterated his call to stop attacks and send a mediation in the conflict.


"No doubt that the order you have given is to kill Gaddafi no matter who kill, is a murder", denounced Chavez during a ceremony broadcast so chained on all radio stations and television stations.


Chavez accused United States and NATO have "Napoleonic folly" and "fascist" and he directly criticized the heads of Government of Spain, France and Italy "makes up nothing doing business with Gaddafi" by the participation of these countries in the international military operation in Libya.


In Benghazi, Libyan insurgency stronghold, rebels celebrated the announcement of the death of the youngest son of Muammar Qadhafi with shots of joy, an AFP journalist noted.


Colonel Qaddafi had reiterated on Saturday that will not give to power and again invite United States and France to negotiate with him a way out of crisis, proposed quickly rejected by the rebellion and by NATO.


NATO "must abandon all hope of a game of Muammar Qadhafi", said the Libyan leader on the morning of Saturday, in a speech broadcast live by State television.


"I have no formal role to relinquish it." "I not forsake my country and combatiré to death," said Colonel Qaddafi, in power since 1969.


"We are prepared to negotiate with France and United States, but without conditions," he said.


NATO rejected the proposal for negotiation. "We do not need words, but action", told AFP a person in charge of the Atlantic Alliance.


The National Council of transition (CNT), political body of the Libyan rebels, also rejected the option of negotiating with Qaddafi. "The time of the commitments is over," said the spokesman of the CNT, Abdel Hafiz Ghoga.


France and United States, along with Britain, headed military operations begun in Libya under the terms of a UN resolution on March 19. Command of operations passed to the Atlantic Alliance at the end of March.


Condemnation of Nicaragua


"Empires, grouped in NATO, just to the youngest son of the brother leader Gaddafi massacre, just bury with their teledirigidas bombs, under mountains of rubble to Sief Alarab Muammer al - Ghadafi, in 29 years;" "three Marines, grandsons of Gaddafi", said the Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega after the fact.


Ortega expressed "heartfelt condolences" to Gaddafi for l

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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
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the translator is shit ... sorry for the translation
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
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I find it interesting and a little disheartening that people on this forum who use their thinking caps when looking at media coverage of MJ, do not use the same techniques when analyzing media stories about other events.  If you were to take just 15 minutes and peruse the link I sent, a lightbulb might go off, like it did for me.  The photos are fake!  The stories are fake and completely preposterous.  The only reason you refuse to believe it is that it seems impossible.  How and Who could perpetrate a hoax so broad in scope?

And, once you are convinced of the hoax, the next step, as in the MJHD is to try and determine the purpose of the hoax.  That's where the real fun begins.
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: "gwynned"
I find it interesting and a little disheartening that people on this forum who use their thinking caps when looking at media coverage of MJ, do not use the same techniques when analyzing media stories about other events.

Exactly! When the info related to America, then media is true and trustworthy source. But when the info is about Michael or other people and countries,the media is lying, and garbage, and trash, and not trustorwthy, and everybody recalls "if you read on tabloid, does not mean it is gospel". Maybe it is conveniet......but it's pathetic.
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Re: Bilderberg Meeting And Plans 2011
June 11, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
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Please provide links or supporting information on your assertions about Khadfi.

It's off topic - there are some threads about Libya already.
There is this one e.g. about the same "Libya = hoax thought" you opened in March:
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I'm gonna post there since this thread here is not about Libya.
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