Now this may be truly off the wall (pun intended)

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i have not wanted to go with the idea of a double but something has been going on with this situation for a while. but i think there are some simple factors that play in also .l
the vitaligo, michael's giftedness simply comes with some aspects that have to be worked around: attention span issues would be my guess. as well as temperment. and asynchronic developement. and his desire to have a normal life in some copacity. and i have to wonder if on the business end he wasn't very capable of knowing how to make it just not capable of knowing how to keeps others from causing him to loose it. jmo :D
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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yes in all of the obvious places that any performer would simply have to use them for things to work , of course.i think when anyone refers to using doubles these times should be excluded without question . but i also think in these videos ( at least for me ) he is explaining some things ahead of time that i think will come to light in all of this. his parents also. if you notice early on the family was very open and willing to talk about things but as the situation with michael and all of the bs began to get out of hand they as well as michael became more guarded about what they would say. because they of course knew michaels heart and they knew the position that fast fame had put him in.
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"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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oohhh scariest one i ever saw is a guy named christopher gasper( or gatsper) . i saw it on his facebook i think. so close with the makeup and so very not close at all without it.  :o
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Quote from: "~Souza~"
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stunt doubles, but i dont think michael used doubles for important events.  i get kinda sad looking at michael from the off the wall/ thriller era because it was a time when he seemed free and happy.  years later it seemed since people did not understand him they tried to make him out to be a weirdo, i cant imagine how michael must have felt  :cry:   but it still didnt stop him from loving and helping people the way Jesus said to.

I strongly disagree with that. He was far from free around that time. The moment he became angry was the moment he broke free and started fighting.

I dont know him personally but he seemed happier to me, because there were no rumors or lies back then that tried to break his spirit.

Nail on the head. Back then he was on message, so no one HAD to break him. As soon as he broke free they had to get rid of him. Things aren't always as they seem.
interesting . where is it that you get your first indication of the time that he broke free. was it in a particular song or statement or time period. i am still learning about this part of it all.  :?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Seems to me that MJ has always had those tendencies to fight back.It has been a long time since I saw it, but I'm still impressed by a scene in The Jacksons An American Dream where little Mike is at the table and Joe is there larger than life and he looks over and says with foreboding 'whose shoe is that'. Little Mike gets up to put it away but in the scene you can see his resentment building  and then he picks that shoe up and hurls it at Joe with all his might before running for his life. How courageous for such a little boy to stand up like that and knowing what the consequences would most likely be. So, yeah... he's hardwired to fight back I'd say.

and you can almost get the feeling that even though joe's own temprament made him want to let him have it that he still had admiration for the little guys guts ;)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."