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magicKal I think you misunderstood the point. No one was saying that Michael or anyone was replacing God or Jesus. He has often said he is "following" or trying to be like Jesus. History does keep going as long as the earth is still spinning. There will always be messengers/prophets/angels sent by God as we go through time. If you look back throughout history there are many. What one person does "now" at this time in history doesn't "replace" or erase what happened in the past. We need someone/something to get us through these times. Jesus was someone who lived 2000 years ago and spread messages etc. and that won't go away or be replaced when new events happen. So, No Worries. Peace and Love bearhug
No matter how religious Michael is, he will never do that. He will never take a place of Jesus.. Are you kidding me? come on let's be logical here.. Yes Michael is a very special person, but will never replace Jesus in my book. I love Michael with all my heart, but I love Jesus more. There was on one Jesus who died on the cross for us, and that is final. Blessings.
[...] He was trying to tell us something about it. I just don't know what. What do you think Michael is trying to say [...]
[...] The topic of the shroud came up before because he was supposedly wrapped in sheets instead of a body bag. [....]
[...] Do you think people can be reincarnated and live through different ages ? Your spirit or soul is reincarnated and comes back in a different body. [...]
[...] Maybe angels/prophets etc. live through different ages on earth because they come back as a different person in a different body. This is like the Hindu religion in India. What do you think about it ?
[...] You have been the biggest help.
Was Princess Diana inseminated by DNA from the Holy Shroud from Turin ? If any family had balls to do this, it would be Sax Coberg Gotha [which is the real name of the Windsors!]. Ron Wyatt's research shows that the blood of Jesus has special properties and that the blood is alive! Soon the Abomination of Desolation will be revealed when Satan steps into the Holy Temple of God - (occupies the resurrected/cloned body of Jesus) and declares himself to be God. He is Antichrist, the cloned image of Jesus Christ!* Thes. 2:3-4: -" Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"; - "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." source: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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So let's not "walk away" from someone who wants to bring love,light,peace, awareness to the world. I don't think it is important what you call it such as messiah/saviour/angel/prophet/archangel etc. because the basic messages and ideas are the same. Let's not let religion divide us. There is really only one religion and that is LOVE. We're all one. Peace and Love.
Quote from: EarthEnigmaPlease, we're going off the point somewhat. There is not one shred of credible historical information that says Jesus ever existed. He wasn't a physical man, he was a gnostic character who we all must become to reach enlightenment. Jesus never existed.....they just wrote a scenario about him and spreaded it on the whole planet. Go figure...But I wonder where those words of wisdom in the gospells came from ......the writer must have been really inspired.
Please, we're going off the point somewhat. There is not one shred of credible historical information that says Jesus ever existed. He wasn't a physical man, he was a gnostic character who we all must become to reach enlightenment.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginFirst, a partial list of Ron Wyatt's claimed discoveries and accomplishments:Noah's Ark (the Durupinar site, for which he has been the prime promoter) Stone sea anchors believed to be used by Noah to steer the vessel into the wind Petrified timbers from the Ark that were used as memorials in an Armenian graveyard Noah's sacrifice area at the site A large stone carving near the Ark picturing 8 people coming out of the side, with a rainbow above the boat, and inscriptions in Summerian, Hurrian, and Urartian identifying this formation as the Ark of Noah Trainloads of petrified pre-flood wood that had no tree rings on the site Corroded metal fittings, found in rows, delineating the "ribs of the ship," as indicated by metal detectors and especially a "molecular frequency generator" A house that Noah built Stones on this house containing inscriptions that recorded details about the Deluge A pictograph of eight people leaving a large wave of water with a boat perched above it Noah's grave Mrs. Noah's grave (containing a fortune-her gold and jewelry) The Ark of the Covenant (under the exact spot where Jesus was crucified) The Menorah (a seven-branched candelabra), the Table of Shewbread, and the Golden Altar of Incense from the ancient Temple Christ's blood, scraped off of the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant DNA analysis of the blood indicates that Christ was born of a virgin The true site of Christ's crucifixion and the stone socket in which the cross was placed Verified the tomb of Christ was the actual tomb Claimed Jesus' tomb was sealed with a Roman iron spike, still visible Moses' stone tablets containing the Ten Commandments, held together with golden hinges Solved the problem of the construction of the pyramids Also the problems in Egyptian chronology Discovered the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah Discovered sulfur balls from the same The true site of the Israelites' Red Sea crossing A stone monument near the site erected by Solomon, inscribed with the ancient Hebrew script Horse and human skeletons from Pharaoh's drowned army Gold covered chariot wheels and chariot parts The true Mount Sinai The 12 altars built by Moses in Exodus 24 The actual rock Moses struck to release water at Kadesh The site of Korah's earthquake where the ground swallowed up Korah and his followers Knows how the Shroud of Turin was forged Has cracked the code of the Copper Scroll Claimed (on tape) that he can read any ancient inscription Discovered the pillars of Solomon The tomb of the Patriarchs, the cave of Machpelah Moses was known in Egyptian history as Thutmosa III Joseph was the builder of the first pyramid Storage bins Joseph used during the drought in Egypt Bones of giant pre-flood people Ancient Canaanite burial pots at Ashkelon Wow! One man – working part time – on his vacations!! How is this possible?
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIt is not the intention of this web site to cast doubt on or support the authenticity of the shroud, but rather to show its possible relationship to the Knights Templar. We receive many letters from angry people who wish to enter into lengthy debates about carbon 14 reliability. We are aware of new evidence that puts the reliability of carbon 14 dating in question, so please refrain from telling us of the findings or directing us to URLs that make the claims.There are two theories that relate to the Templars having been involved with the Shroud, one, which would support the authenticity of the Shroud and another, which would refute it.In 1204 the Crusaders sacked the city of Constantinople. Among them were the Knights Templar, whom some scholars contend took the Burial shroud of Jesus from the city. To support this theory, author Ian Wilson who wrote the book “The Shroud of Turin: Burial Cloth Of Jesus?” makes the claim that the head that the Templars were accused of worshipping was none other than that of Jesus. His belief is that the Shroud when folded depicted the head of Christ and was referred to as the “Mandylion.” There is a painted panel at Templecombe in England that shows a bearded head like that, which is depicted on the Mandylion.In their two books, “The Hiram Key” and “The Second Messiah,” authors Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas paint a contrasting picture to the Mandylion theory. The authors theorize that the image on the Shroud of Turin is in fact that of the last Grand Master of the order, Jacques de Molay, who was tortured some months before his execution in 1307. The image on the shroud certainly does fit the description of de Molay as depicted in medieval wood cuts, a long nose, hair shoulder length and parted in the center, a full beard that forked at its base, not to mention the six-foot frame. De Molay was said to be quite tall.However, many have criticized the theory on the basis that the Templar rule of order forbade the Templars from growing their hair long. What critics of the theory overlook is that during DeMolay’s seven years in prison it is highly unlikely that he would have been afforded such luxuries as good grooming.Knight and Lomas claim that the shroud figured in the Templars rituals of figurative resurrection and that DeMolay’s tortured body was wrapped in a shroud, which the Templars kept after his death. Lomas and Knight further believe that lactic acid and blood from DeMolay’s tortured body mixed with frankincense (used to whiten the cloth) etching his image into the shroud. When the shroud was first put on display in 1357 (50 years after the disbanding of the order) by the family of Geoffrey de Charney who was also burned at the stake with de Molay, the first people viewing the shroud recognized the image to be that of Christ.The authors theorize that Jacques de Molay may have been tortured in a manner similar to Christ as a mockery. Certainly then, the wounds suffered by de Molay where the same as those of Jesus Christ on the Cross.Today it is commonly believed by many, through carbon dating, that the shroud dates to the late 13th century and not to the date of Christ’s supposed crucifixion. It is interesting that the church revealed these carbon dating results on October 13th, 1989, which is the same day the Templars were arrested by Church and State. According to the authors:“Carbon dating has conclusively shown that the Shroud of Turin dates from between 1260 and 1380, precisely as we would expect if it were the image of Jacques de Molay. There is no other known theory that fits the scientifically established facts. Through experimentation, we know that the figure on the Shroud was on a soft bed of some kind, which strongly suggests that the victim was not dead and was expected to recover.”The Second Messiah pg. 161 – Christopher Knight and Robert LomasRegardless of whether the findings of Ian Wilson or Knight and Lomas are correct, it is evident that this most holy and venerated relic has found its way into the Templar mythos.Lynn Picknet and Clive Prince, authors of “Turin Shroud: In Whose Image?” present another theory of interest on the matter. Readers will recognize the authors from the book, “The Templar Revelation.” In the authors’ earlier book the duo claim that Leonardo Da Vinci who created an early photographic technique manufactured the image on the shroud of Turin.
