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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 11, 2011, 04:29:36 AM
IMO. Michael will be the one who stop illuminati from hurt the people and the planet
i investigate the Freemason and Illuminati just simply becoz of michael and i also believe that they will do sth in 2012. and i strongly believe  michael will come back in 2012 becoz if  Illuminati do sth next yr'
i don't think michael will just sit and watch. it's not him if he just let it happen.i don;t mean if he dont come back
he's bad; what i mean is that if there is no other things to restrict mj and sure he will be back
but you know we don't know what will happen next on
so what i do is pray for mj   :)
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September 11, 2011, 09:36:02 AM
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I agree except hell is a misinterpretation/mistranslation of the Bible, mostly by the church to exercise control over the masses. There are many excellent Bible studies on this online. Hell is the grave.


Yes and no. Certain descriptions are interpolations (such as Satan being a Satyr or the seven levels of hell as described by dante) but it's not simply "the grave".
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 11, 2011, 06:10:03 PM
Oh my! Michael the Antichrist !? Jesus!
This is one of the rare theories that seems so absurd to me.

If I were to look for an Anti-Christ brought by the Illuminati, I would certainly look towards the "British corner" if you know what I mean ;)

The Biblical/religious references related to Michael, Elvis and this whole PROJECT, are very obvious!
I found out many religious and historic links that connect Michael and Elvis to the Biblical message/story.

I will try in the approximate future... to make some photo-montages with what I could find...
It's hard... It's the most sensitive subject, the most difficult to approach, especially because it goes so deep!! oh my! this is the deepest rabbit hole of the hoax! the religious one!

With Elvis and Michael ... both very religious sensitive persons... with their thirst for knowledge of all kind! history and religions from all corners of the world... hmmm... I feel so small, so little, so uneducated to even try and discuss this as it should be discussed!!

I don't know to what extent and in what way has the hoax changed people [I'm sure it did], but for me, the religious aspect was the most mind-blowing and revealing and instructive than anything else I discovered since MJ disappeared!

As i said... I will try to ... at least show what i found out... but I feel that i need more research into this... it's overwhelming to me! and I have this feeling that... more will be revealed and explained on this religious aspect, after the actual BAM! I just hope I'll be prepared enough until then!

I started searching having their names in mind! and OMG!!
Michael, Joseph, Jack-son, Elvis [Allwise/Elwin], Presley [Priest-ly], Aaron and Jesse ! and DIANA - the goddess of the Moon - the Moon they both sang/talked/danced so much!! Elvis had about 6-7 songs related to the Moon, Michael moon-walked-danced, made the film Moonwalker and sang "Scared of the Moon"....

oh my! it just makes you wonder who they really are !!!

and I stop here! for now...

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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 11, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
SimPattyK thank you for your message.  I would be so happy to see your pictures and research.  I've been thinking about this for about a year and a half now !!!!!!  I've been reading and finding a variety of information but am still confused.  Could you help me understand how the moon is connected to this ?   Is MJ wearing a blue moon on his eye in that new photo with the black jacket and the circles ?   And did you see the video with Pearl Jr. with B. Howard.  B. Howard said his goal was to have a performance on the MOON !!!!!!!  So I think you are right.  He has something to say about the moon.  Will the moon also be lined up with all the planets on December 21, 2012 ?     I will always love MJ no matter what happens.  I am just confused.    /overreacting/
I read about all sorts of things and I am going around in circles.  Everything from Greek Myths, Egyptians, Angels, Extraterrestrials,religions, astrology, 2012 theories, ascension, DNA Repair, meditation, Reptilians and etc. etc.   Please Help if you can.    Thank you so much !!!!!   Love !!!!!!  /pull hair/
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 13, 2011, 05:43:13 AM
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SimPattyK thank you for your message.  I would be so happy to see your pictures and research.  [...] Please Help if you can.    Thank you so much !!!!!   Love !!!!!!  /pull hair/
I will do my best... but I am sure I am not the best recommended person to enlighten people too much on this subject.

Regarding the MOON... I have some ideas...
- maybe they were trying to warn people about a fake MOON landing? this is a controversial debate: was the '69 MOONlanding true or a hoax?
- maybe they were hinting at the moon ..the planets...the alignment of planets that Michael also speaks about in "we are here to change the world" - Captain EO - which also makes me think of December 21st 2012
- In a more poetic and romantic perspective (ELvis & Mj ), the moon is "the light of the world" during night-time ;)
- Both Michael and ELvis have an androgyne side of them.... they are so beautiful , they almost look like angels... sometimes in a masculine sense, sometimes in a feminine sense. They both had SUN-symbolism in their music, videos, etc... and they both connected to the MOON too! So here we have the masculine (SUN) and the feminine (Moon) together ! This is ANGELIC !! and magnetizing at the same time! which explains the immense attraction they had to so many millions of people around the world!

and there are some more... but as I said..I'll take my time for this....
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 13, 2011, 07:36:36 AM
the 69 moon landing a hoax?
My grandmother was a simple woman with not too much school and 30 years ago she was convinced there was a hoax and they never landed on the moon errrr.
We were all laughing of her about this. But who knows?!

Both Michael and ELvis have an androgyne side of them.... ? I would say Michael really had it but Elvis - IDK, not very much, well maybe a little.

But Michael definetly had it, and it is part of his mystery. Many people call him an angel walking on earth.
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 13, 2011, 03:19:10 PM
I also wondered what the moon means; there is obviously a connection. Related to MJ I always thought the moon is the HOAX, the sleep, the time being away, the disappearance. Michael has his eyes closed in the blue moon picture, he is away, the moon is up.

And yes, androgyne! Angelic! Let me tell you this much, guys! I have tears in my eyes reading your comments here because this is what I always felt about Michael! It's almost surreal how people all over the world are able to FEEL this about a person they have never acually met, but LOVED, UNDERSTOOD and FELT as being PART OF THEIR SOUL! At least, that's how I feel!

God bless you! I LOVE you!
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 13, 2011, 03:49:55 PM
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the 69 moon landing a hoax? My grandmother was a simple woman with not too much school and 30 years ago she was convinced there was a hoax and they never landed on the moon errrr.
We were all laughing of her about this. But who knows?![...]
I don't detain the absolute truth, but I read, listened and heard some really intriguing facts about the '69 moon landing as being a hoax! Nothing but a studio-movie! There are photographers and specialists who found hard proof that it never happened, by just analyzing the lights, the shadows and the flaws in the films and photos taken at that moment. It really looks like it was all filmed in a studio.
Now I don't know which side of this debate to fully believe, but I think your grand-mother is a very clever woman, if only because she dared to doubt the "official story" told by the media at that time! ;)



@Dontwalkaway, GinaFelicia & @GrossoModo: thank you all so much for your comments!
If you hadn't commented the way you did, maybe I wouldn't have managed to get out so  openly off my chest what you will read below. As I already said ^^ this is a subject that is very difficult for me to discuss... it's so complicated..and sensitive that I feel somehow... "shy" to tell how I think on this ...  because i don't know how people would react and because I feel that I still need to learn more about it... But here's a some part of it...
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[...]Both Michael and ELvis have an androgyne side of them.... ?
I would say Michael really had it but Elvis - IDK, not very much, well maybe a little.
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Oh yes, Elvis could really have a very gentle, sweet feminine look sometimes, especially in his younger years... And what was androgynous about Elvis was not that much his physical aspect , but his character, his natural way of being. I explain ....

We all know of course he's known more for his "sex-symbol"-reputation. Don't let yourselves be tricked by that. It was only an image built by his manager Tom Parker and all the music-industry people profiting around him, but Elvis' true nature wasn't like that.

ELVIS quotes:
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Reporter: "Elvis, are you satisfied with your image?"
Elvis: "Well, sir, it's very hard to live up to an image." (press conference June 9, 1972)

"Don't criticize what you don't understand, son, you never walked in that man's shoes."
He seemed to be a womanizer, but that's because he was tender and loving, he liked to caress, to touch , to kiss all his female-fans, and all his female movie-partners, but deep in his heart it wasn't as sexual as it may have appeared to the "outsiders", the general public and of course the media who always gives a pervert note to everything! so that it "sells better!"

This is one of my favorite live-moments with Elvis ... and his natural loving character
Gorgeous ELVIS spreading LOVE ♥ & KISSes to his fans ("Love Me Tender" 1970)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnATWrG8MUI[/youtube]

Many famous women who met Elvis (and also numerous fans) declared that he most often would prefer to take women to his bedroom, but not for sex, just for a good night's friendly talk [most often about the purpose of life, existential problems, about God and the Bible] or just for cuddling and falling asleep together, he got along very well with women because of his feminine side in him; and he was also very childlike [YES! childlike! just like Michael!] which explains why he felt more attracted to teen-age girls than mature women! But just as in the case of Michael who had a special bond with children, people and the media always tended to think in a pervert way! and accuse them of being sexually interested! Which was NOT the case!!
 I think for both of them, Elvis  & Michael, their inner innocence regarding the sexuality , combined with their brilliant minds and their extreme beauty, all together formed a whole that was irresistibly attractive !! and angelic at the same time!

I kept this quote from an article that i read some time ago, I think it's very relevant to what i said here above ^^ and also to show you how much Elvis and Michael resembled in nature! They really looked like and behaved like angels...that's my point in this whole discussion ...which is so vast...this is just an aspect of it all!!
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June Wilkinson (Playboy star & actress): "I met Elvis on the set of "King Creole". He invited me to dinner at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. Then Elvis gave me a tour of his suite, sat me on the bed in his bedroom and sang to me for two hours. That was it. The next day, we had dinner again. He was very sweet, and he was friendly. He had more than sex on his mind. He got me to the airport on time, and our paths never crossed again."

Alan Fortas (bodyguard & friend): "Elvis needed someone to baby more than he needed a sex partner. He craved the attention of someone who adored him without the threat of sexual pressure, much as a mother would [...] Elvis befriended some of the young 14-year-old girls who used to cluster adoringly in his driveway, or outside the fence. Out in the backyard, they romped with Elvis in the Doughboy pool and challenged him to watermelon-seed spitting contests. They also slipped into his bedroom for rambunctious pillow fights. Sometimes they would all sit cross-legged with him on the bed, flipping through his fan magazines or admiring his stuffed-animal collection. Often they would all lie down together and cuddle. But what went on was horseplay, not foreplay."




 Elvis also got along very well with men! he had such strong bonds with his male-friends that at some point he was even accused of being gay and/or bisexual ! Another exaggeration of course [just like we heard about Michael too!]! Elvis had his loyal group of friends (nicknamed the "Memphis Mafia" who used to follow him everywhere! They admired him and respected him and loved him beyond their  own lives! 2 of these friends even jumped in front of an armed man to protect Elvis...they thought that man was going to shoot him, but there was a misunderstanding, I don't remember very well the story, but I saw that interview with one of the guys who told they were ready to give their own life for Elvis!); also one of his "Memphis Mafia" friends declared in an interview that sometimes when they were all together with Elvis, they felt so high, so loved, so good together... and when talking about these guys loyally following Elvis everywhere, he even made a reference to the 12 Apostles following Jesus, he immediately excused himself by saying that he's not claiming Elvis was Jesus, but that it was really the feeling he had sometimes when he was in that group with Elvis. After Elvis 'died", one of his friends said in an interview something like this, I paraphrase: "Anyone who knew Elvis like we did, knew that Elvis was all about LOVE".

Isn't all of this ^^  shockingly identically resembling to MICHAEL ?? to everything MICHAEL stood for? And it can't be all a coincidence. And It can't be that Michael admired and imitated Elvis. No! it's much more than that !!! And my opinion is that it's all related to GOD. I just can't see another logical, reasonable answer to this!



This is a video-montage that I made about their humanitarianism:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o83M6PPyjRg[/youtube]
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 13, 2011, 04:22:39 PM
Thanks SimPattyK.  I didn't realize that Elvis and Michael had that much in common.  I never was an Elvis fan probably because I was just a kid in the seventies.  Interesting,  maybe they really could be working together ????  Well if so,  Elvis needs to hurry up.  He is 76 or 77 if he is still alive!!!!!!!     Anyway my mother is a huge Elvis fan and she is almost 70.   
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 13, 2011, 04:35:13 PM
Thank you @Dontwalkaway ! i am glad if I could bring you some new insight on both of them.
I wasn't even born in the seventies. I was born in  1980.
I was a Michael Jackson fan before I loved any other artists.
In my adolescence I had a period when I was literally obsessed with Elvis too.
I never stopped loving them both with all my heart. And I never stopped discovering more an more artists and musical genres besides them.

Next year Elvis will turn 77 years old. I am sure he is alive. I am not very sure he desires to come back though.
But I am sure he and Michael are together in this and that GOD works through them.
I don't know what will come next, but I believe in God...and like Elvis said "All good things come from God"...so i expect good things to come!!

Much love to you!
sending you kisses
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September 14, 2011, 03:23:10 AM
SimPattyK, thanks for your highlighting of Elvis. I didn't realize this gentle loving child-loving side to him. He really seems endearing, and  :lol: kissing all those women. /woohoo/ I wonder what would have happened if MJ started doing that. There would have been absolute pandemonium. afraid/

I just happened to see this little video clip of MJ today that maybe I'll stick in here, because MJ's laugh when holding the children is so adorable. Absolutely angelic!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1OfSoLOIYM&feature=related[/youtube]

I'll be interested in your take/presentation of Scriptural applications to MJ and Elvis lives!

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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 14, 2011, 04:18:47 AM
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SimPattyK, thanks for your highlighting of Elvis. I didn't realize this gentle loving child-loving side to him. He really seems endearing, [...]
I am so glad I managed to express myself so that you can get this exact feeling of him.
To me, at least regarding this aspect: MJ = Elvis and Elvis = MJ, they both form ONE, they are ONE divine entity. And if you love MJ , then you definitely love Elvis too and/or vice-versa! Only those who don't know anything on one of them, only those cannot see how God's work glows in both of them equally! they are messengers here on Earth, I have no doubt about that! and LOVE is their mission.

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[...] :lol: kissing all those women. /woohoo/ I wonder what would have happened if MJ started doing that. There would have been absolute pandemonium. afraid/
oohh lmao  :lol: :lol: I also tried to imagine that! Seeing how much hysteria he caused only by inviting that one single girl on stage in every concert! if he had descended the stage to go and hug and kiss fans like ELvis did... OMG! there would have been no Michael in a few seconds!  :lol: lmao he would have "vanished" in air!  :lol: Elvis got lucky that in his time, the fans even though they got hysterical and screamed, were still more shy and restrained in gestures and behavior, did you see how they politely waited in line to get a hug or kiss from Elvis, they didn't grab him or tear his clothes off or something like that...

And you're right Michael's laugh sounds angelic...totally cute!
Yous should search youtube for ELvis' laughters too...you would be amazed!

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[...]I'll be interested in your take/presentation of Scriptural applications to MJ and Elvis lives![...]
For now I am in the stage of still gathering infos, photos , clues... and sorting them according to their category... it also involves art!
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 14, 2011, 01:14:44 PM
The Last Supper ~ The Moon & The JUPITER Finger

Here are some of my first findings that connect Michael & Elvis to religious matters ...  and also ART




Some close-ups so that you can read better:








MJ - PALM



The article telling us about LaToya's "hurting" JUPITER finger!! loll I just love LaToya!! She dropped the most significant clues in the hoax!! Jermaine too, but LaToya rocksssssssss ! ;)
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Coincidence or not, Elvis had also broken his finger at some point... LMAO :lol: :lol:
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October 16, 1960 - Elvis breaks his finger playing touch football at Graceland. Elvis was first treated first at Campbell Clinic, where doctors decided to transfer him to the hospital because they didn't have enough space to accommodate the anticipated large number of visitors. His touch football teammates and Anita Wood, disk jockey and Elvis' frequent companion when he is in Memphis, accompanied him to the hospital.
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 14, 2011, 09:01:26 PM
Thank you for all your work SimPattyK.   It's great !!!!  I would never have found or thought about all this.  Can you explain the whole 42 angle thing and Jupiter ?  I don't really understand it.  How is it connected to ET and maybe other ET's ?  I am pretty sure after reading different things this past year that there are UFO's and ET's that are real.     Some theories about Elvis, Michael and some others : they can channel like David Wilcock does, they remember past lives like Wilcock does, they have developed higher powers like psychic powers due to DNA repair, meditation etc.  or they were abducted at some point ?????    There are also things about starseeds,indigo children, and lightworkers.  Lightworkers and wayshowers.   It seems to go along with LIGHTMAN.     And I read  some think Jesus was a wayshower.  And I watched the history channel a few months ago and they were talking about Jesus being a time traveler.  Traveling from a planet more evolved than earth or traveling down from the future earth ?????    I don't know really.  These are just thoughts that are going through my mind.   What do you think ?   I can't ask anyone around here.  They think I went crazy but I don't care because I am learning a lot.   /cook/
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Re: New Jesus - mark my words
September 15, 2011, 07:25:46 AM
@Dontwalkaway: thank you for your message.

I will tell you first how I think about all these paranormal/science/fiction/holy/crazy OR not crazy theories about Jesus, aliens, ET, Michael, Elvis etc...

Until MJ's hoax, I always thought that people who spoke about these kind of things were really crazy OR they had a big imagination and a special taste for SF movies lol


1. After... I started researching about
- NWO, Illuminati and the 9/11 conspiracy,
- Bankers and people who rule the world from behind!
- then MJ's  death hoax came, and the connections to Elvis
- then I learned about H.A.A.R.P.
- and the mafia in the Pharmaceutical industry.
- Then I learned about the BLUE-beam Project and the so-called "Alien attack on Earth" that the Illuminati are planning I order to take total control of the world population...

^^ I tend to believe that these ^^ theories may be true and the facts and proofs to sustain this category of theories can be verified and observed in the real world by any person with an open mind and who is awaken mentally and NOT manipulated and brainwashed by the media.


2. On the other hand, there is also a category of theories, that at least to me seems surreal, fantasies...exaggerations, sometimes created and spread exactly by those powerful people (Illuminati, the bankers, the media moguls) who are afraid to be exposed by the 1st category of theories [mentioned above]. So they intentionally spread these false and outrageous theories with the purpose of discrediting and ridiculing those who try to expose them and their dark plans.


@Dontwalkaway: you enumerated many theories in your comment, more or less related to Michael and Elvis.
I don't know them all, and I know some things about some of them [I find out something about INDIGO children too...starting from my investigation on the color PURPLE which is very much present both in Elvis an MJ's hoax]
I can't say which ones are reliable and true or which ones are just inventions.
I didn't have time and I won't have time to investigate everything. And it's not my intention either.

But I can only tell you what I have already find out while searching clues about Michael and Elvis being alive.
As I said, in time I will slowly show you everything I know.
If you find clues about MJ & Elvis related to the theories you mentioned in your post, please share them with us. ;)
Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 07:33:13 AM by SimPattyK
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