Unseen TII pic.

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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: April 20, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
I saw all of those pictures before. The first one in this thread was done by Karen Faye as far as I remember?  
I also remember we once agreed some of them were photoshopped for the purpose of "TII" - the album booklet like the ones I enclose:
As to the shirt and the background - I don't know... It could have been "the day and the other day..."  :lol:
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: April 20, 2011, 04:20:40 PM
But these pictures can be also from 2006 to 2008.

Judging by this article (which you should never forget) from 2006 with a picture of the TII Smooth Criminal MJ.

http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: April 23, 2011, 07:37:17 AM
There is no 777 on the shirt.

Ive looked and it isnt there.  The lighting is different on the screen behind him.  Look at MJs neck and you will see what i mean.  This is a photograph of MJ with a plasma screen behnd him.  The flash from the camera is going to bounce off a screen in a different way to how it will bounce off a person.  Different materials, you see.

Its the same MJ, on the same day.  There is a delay in the feedback and the photo is taken from a different angle to what the camera is recording from. (hence you see different background on the screen.  The recording camera is in a different place to where the picture camera is)

Of course modern technology has a delay, if even for a microsecond.   Even when you speak to someone on the telephone these days...  there is still a delay from the reverberations your voicebox makes, to it travelling down the line (or satellite), to reaching the eardrums of the other person.
Same with television.  It will never be instanious or as quick as a real live event witnessed in front of your very own eyes.
As technologically advanced as we are, human beings are still yet to create techonology as quick or as advanced as the human brain.

Thats just me using my own mind, but everyone is free to look objectively and decide for themselves.

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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: April 23, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
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But these pictures can be also from 2006 to 2008.

Judging by this article (which you should never forget) from 2006 with a picture of the TII Smooth Criminal MJ.

http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042

I always thought the "shootings" of TII were spread over a loger period of time (years). That`ll explain all the different looks / weight changes and so on ....  great illusion.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: April 23, 2011, 01:45:27 PM
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But these pictures can be also from 2006 to 2008.

Judging by this article (which you should never forget) from 2006 with a picture of the TII Smooth Criminal MJ.

http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042

I always thought the "shootings" of TII were spread over a loger period of time (years). That`ll explain all the different looks / weight changes and so on ....  great illusion.



that is the way it felt in the theater like i wasn't sure if they were all him but the one's i felt sure of didn't all seem to be from the same time period. i have to say though when i watch at home i don't get the same feeling   :?
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 02, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
I can see whatn you mean the 2 pics both show completely different lifestyle outcomes it may just be different expressions on his face that change the way he looks but the fingernail does look shorter in the second pic.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 03, 2011, 06:37:53 AM
in how many days were these pictures taken?
 in 90% of the pictures he is wearing the same black pants with the "white substance"  :shock:  on it.
 or the same red shirt.
 He was only 2 days at the rehearsal ?


For me personally he looks on the most pics  very stressed. and not happy.

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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 03, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
While michael may appearto be vastly different in various pictures,none of us knows what he truly looks like.It could certainly be the case that doubles were used but is also possible that it is mj we see every time.The time and date of the rehearsals is also up for debate but yet again we dont know for sure.In my honest opinion mj did not look like a man suffering from years of drug abuse,let alone a man dependant on such drugs.They may have tried to strip him of his dignity,but they cannot touch his soul.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 06, 2011, 03:05:54 PM
I have no idea how MJ looks really, but in his last album "Michael" he looks like an older version of BAD era. Also Jermaine´s book used a pic from the 80´s.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 11, 2011, 06:45:41 PM
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
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LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?


That's what I was saying in my post above Souza, LoL...guess I didn't word it right! :lol:  :lol: If they wanted us to think it was the same Michael, the least they could have done was make sure they had the pics "aligned" properly, don't ya think??  ;)

That's the same Michael. The image goes a little bit late on the screen, that's the reason why the hands etc is not the same.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 11, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
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Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
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This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.


Debunked? No it's just an excuse. There is no delay with the modern technology, so that's bs. Debunk this: The one on the screen has the 777 added to his shirt, the one on stage hasn't.
What about the way his head's angled?
What about his shirt one it's out of the pants one is inside the pants.

ok. 1.  Where is the 777 on the shirt as i cannot see it?  Mght be my old eyes...

2. His head is angled differently because there is a slight delay in the feed.

3.  His shirt isnt out of his pants in one....  its because his body is moving and angled slightly differently.

I beg to differ in the assertion that there "is no delay in modern technology" - because there is...  even if its just a second behind.


Souza the delay is still the same with the modern technology. There's no 777 on his shirt at the BG. His jacket was a little bit more open and we see alittle bit more of the shiny stones on his shirt. I agree with what Miss.Peppers wrote.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 11, 2011, 09:02:32 PM
I agree.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 18, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
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This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!

Did anyone notice the pic on the screen behind him has different movements than he does? like on the screen his hair is in his face but not as much on MJ on stage and the right hand is in a different place. On the screen his mouth is almost completely closed but MJ on stage has his mouth open. The whole upper body is leaning differently and the right collar is in a different place. Could be delay I guess, but looks strange. I am the family "editor" when we watch tv. I can pick out almost if not every editing flaw. I have always had a knack for paying attention to details and this hit me immediately.
Just a thought.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 18, 2011, 10:13:20 PM
I just read the posts above. A second delay maybe so but how do you explain the hair on the right side of his face? On the screen it's much longer at least it appears to be. Could be a shadow but I don't think so.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 19, 2011, 01:53:02 PM
Lighting, shadows, camera angle & delay.
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 19, 2011, 05:58:34 PM
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777 in the yellow circle. Just zoom it and you will see.

Also, in the purple circles: why don't the backgrounds match?

have to agree with souza..
spoke to a friend that has knowledge of these sort of things lol..if your filming an object just like a concert what goes on stage thru the camera feed goes directly to the backdrop without a delay..what you see on stage appears as the same as on the background..now on tv with live feeds and fcc there is a what 20 sec delay due to cuzzing or other things that happen so its bleep out or not shown..anyways..even if you go to sony own video trailer about this is it..and go frame by frame you will notice alot of these so called shots that do not add up..even watch the movie if you have it frame by frame..if i had my notes i could tell you more and where to look..mouth open mouth closed..crease in shirt no crease..the 7's no sevens lol hand placement ...you get the idea.. lolol/  if i was better at putting pictures up here of the movie i would and i think its great were looking at the older stuff with fresh eyes again..sometimes im thankful for when it does get quite on here to go back and take a look at all that has been posted..sometimes we have to look back on information given to us to beable to move forward..jmo
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: July 19, 2011, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
777 in the yellow circle. Just zoom it and you will see.

Also, in the purple circles: why don't the backgrounds match?

have to agree with souza..
spoke to a friend that has knowledge of these sort of things lol..if your filming an object just like a concert what goes on stage thru the camera feed goes directly to the backdrop without a delay..what you see on stage appears as the same as on the background..now on tv with live feeds and fcc there is a what 20 sec delay due to cuzzing or other things that happen so its bleep out or not shown..anyways..even if you go to sony own video trailer about this is it..and go frame by frame you will notice alot of these so called shots that do not add up..even watch the movie if you have it frame by frame..if i had my notes i could tell you more and where to look..mouth open mouth closed..crease in shirt no crease..the 7's no sevens lol hand placement ...you get the idea.. lolol/  if i was better at putting pictures up here of the movie i would and i think its great were looking at the older stuff with fresh eyes again..sometimes im thankful for when it does get quite on here to go back and take a look at all that has been posted..sometimes we have to look back on information given to us to beable to move forward..jmo
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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: February 11, 2012, 03:31:22 AM
I cant open any of the pics, can anyone help?

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Re: Unseen TII pic.

  • on: February 11, 2012, 04:38:30 AM
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I always thought the "shootings" of TII were spread over a loger period of time (years). That`ll explain all the different looks / weight changes and so on ....  great illusion.
Though I can only see a couple of pics here, just from being here since the beginning seeing all we discussed, I would agree that MJ has put illusions EVERYWHERE in this hoax, little odd things that don't make sense, deliberately.  We have to figure out fact from fiction, real from hoax,  etc.  For years MJ has done little things to subtly or major change his appearance every time he went out in public, sat for interviews like with Bashir, posed for pictures, and throughout TII.  He said his favorite super-hero character was  Morph, because he could change his form, which he said he found exciting! And he's been doing this for the past 2+ years, and also with his voice, disguises,  and on-line usernames. mj_bad/ It's been driving us crazy, and he knows it and loves it!  :mrgreen: