New blog: Challenging the non-believers arguments – part 1

[Guest]

Thankyou...and what about the 3 questions I've asked please.

[Guest]

Thankyou...and what about the 3 questions I've asked please.

Also,kids bounce back so much quicker than us grown ups.Also I would imagine that they've had the best councilling money can buy.

[~Souza~]

Thankyou...and what about the 3 questions I've asked please.

Also,kids bounce back so much quicker than us grown ups.Also I would imagine that they've had the best councilling money can buy.

Questions? You posted statements and not questions. If you would take the time and effort to exactly explian why you have that opinion, someone might take the time to actually answer you.

[maninthemoon]

If all the numerology is nonsense, Mr. Troll. Then what's with the shirts MJ has been using, the shirts with '7' on them? Hmm? Is it his "lucky number", or could it be hinting reincarnation?

[Guest]

"The ambulance photo WAS fake Because no one managed to get an up to date photo"

This is not true. There's a picture (perhaps Souza can to publish it again) where someone is lying, but you can not distinguish any faces.
 And if you say this is true, why the family has not complained about it in public knowing that this journalist won so much money for this picture?
 And tell me who is recording the journalist? and why curiosity is the only one there that day at the doors of his home? and why he cant got nothing more? He had have 100 per sec

[hesouttamylife]

Thank you Souza for this thread.  I also get the hypotheses  from people saying that Michael would not do that to his children and I too beg to differ.  Here are my reasons as I posted in another forum:

Michael said that he never wanted his children to be different, that he wanted them to live with normalcy?  Can you imagine what normalcy they would have had if he had chosen to take them with him?  None.  They would have grown up afraid of everything and everybody and they would have been miserable for the rest of their lives.  That is the reason I feel in my heart that Michael left them behind, so they could live a normal life.  What ever he is going through, God bless him.

I have always believed in the saying if you love someone set them free.  If they come back to you it was meant to be.  I know that Michael’s children will grow to understand if they don’t already that what he did was courageous and done out of his love for them.  He sacrificed himself for his one true love, his children. In doing so, he purposely is making a better way for them. He didn’t leave them behind out of selfishness, but to allow them the chance to live, to grow into caring, considerate, adults with something to offer the world they live in.

I don’t know what Michael is going through, however, I know that he thinks about them every minute he is away from them.  I fear that he is sad and obviously unhappy that he had to do it, but coupled with those emotions that he is also content when he sees how well adjusted they have become and continues to be.  Loving parents will go against all odds for their children to have what they didn’t have.  Michael never had a childhood and he never had real, meaningful, fulfilling love.  His children will have all of those things not in spite of but because Michael chose them over self.  He made that possible.  Michael is a genuis and he is a helluva daddy.  I continue to pray for his peace and his well being.  I have to believe that he is safe and is watching over us and them somehow.  I have to believe that he knows that we are keeping vigil for him, we believe in his plan and that we will never let him part.  we don’t judge him for doing what he obviously had to do. Here I must add that Michael will always be my angel and even if I never ever get the chance to see him again, he will live forever in my heart.

[Im_convincedmjalive]

[youtube:3olrbeho]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3V-7DEAgdc[/youtube:3olrbeho]
Music video by Michael Jackson performing Liberian Girl. (C) 1989 MJJ Productions Inc.
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Updated 2009 version of Liberian Girl. Directed by Michael Jackson  

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The Greatest Show on Earth. Thank you Michael.

[GINAFELICIA]

Great idea Souza. Now us who don't want to read that Michael is dead can just avoid that topic And will you reopen the original thread about Michael visiting?  That was a good one.
 Thanks.

Michael visiting? who? us?  

oHHHHH Don't raise your expectations too high......it's just the mind-game going on :mrgreen:

[GINAFELICIA]

the children subject is delicate and I really wound't want the discussion to go there. We were always attacked on exactly this subject, they told us we disrespect the children.

But in my opinion the children are in, they know exactly what's going on.
We are not here to judge anybody, especially the children ,but who can honestly explain some behaviour at the memorial?

I know when my mom died I was a wreck for at least 2 months, couldn't smile or even take care of myself, I looked terrible, totally different of my usual self because losing a parent is a trauma at any age, but especially at such an young age  :?  ?

Anyway, I think we should better talk about why Marlon gave that little speech about Michael waking around in disguise - was this the most appropriate subject to talk about at a memorial  :? ?

[~Souza~]

the children subject is delicate and I really wound't want the discussion to go there. We were always attacked on exactly this subject, they told us we disrespect the children.

But in my opinion the children are in, they know exactly what's going on.
We are not here to judge anybody, especially the children ,but who can honestly explain some behaviour at the memorial?

I know when my mom died I was a wreck for at least 2 months, couldn't smile or even take care of myself, I looked terrible, totally different of my usual self because losing a parent is a trauma at any age, but especially at such an young age  :?  ?

Anyway, I think we should better talk about why Marlon gave that little speech about Michael waking around in disguise - was this the most appropriate subject to talk about at a memorial  :? ?

I am not discussing the children, I am discussing one of the arguments that non-believers have for this not being a hoax, which is about the children. The kids can be discussed here, to a certain extent. I do not want people to be judgemental about them or dig into their private lives. Even though little smart actors, they are still kids. Hoax related stuff like this and the Oprah interview can be discussed. Totally different Gina.

[Guest]

If all the numerology is nonsense, Mr. Troll. Then what's with the shirts MJ has been using, the shirts with '7' on them? Hmm? Is it his "lucky number", or could it be hinting reincarnation?

No,It's not mr troll,it's OK as I guessed you wouldn't like that name.
But hey,there are page full of numbers aren't there? I'm not talking about the number 7.I mean,chapters from the bible etc etc etc etc ...need I go on.

[Guest]

"The ambulance photo WAS fake Because no one managed to get an up to date photo"

This is not true. There's a picture (perhaps Souza can to publish it again) where someone is lying, but you can not distinguish any faces.
 And if you say this is true, why the family has not complained about it in public knowing that this journalist won so much money for this picture?
 And tell me who is recording the journalist? and why curiosity is the only one there that day at the doors of his home? and why he cant got nothing more? He had have 100 per sec

Is this the photoshopped one where the supposed MJ is blanked out.Sorry I don't really understand your response

[Guest]

Thankyou...and what about the 3 questions I've asked please.

Also,kids bounce back so much quicker than us grown ups.Also I would imagine that they've had the best councilling money can buy.

Questions? You posted statements and not questions. If you would take the time and effort to exactly explian why you have that opinion, someone might take the time to actually answer you.

Yes questions was the wong word.Statements is what I should have said...but I think you know that anyway,don't you?

[~Souza~]

Thankyou...and what about the 3 questions I've asked please.

Also,kids bounce back so much quicker than us grown ups.Also I would imagine that they've had the best councilling money can buy.

Questions? You posted statements and not questions. If you would take the time and effort to exactly explian why you have that opinion, someone might take the time to actually answer you.

Yes questions was the wong word.Statements is what I should have said...but I think you know that anyway,don't you?

That's not the point, you need to come up with arguments before expecting anyone to reply to you.

[Guest]

the children subject is delicate and I really wound't want the discussion to go there. We were always attacked on exactly this subject, they told us we disrespect the children.

But in my opinion the children are in, they know exactly what's going on.
We are not here to judge anybody, especially the children ,but who can honestly explain some behaviour at the memorial?

I know when my mom died I was a wreck for at least 2 months, couldn't smile or even take care of myself, I looked terrible, totally different of my usual self because losing a parent is a trauma at any age, but especially at such an young age  :?  ?

Anyway, I think we should better talk about why Marlon gave that little speech about Michael waking around in disguise - was this the most appropriate subject to talk about at a memorial  :? ?

Shock does funny things to people.I really don't believe Paris had a microphone,so you?