What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

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Offline Chance

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What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:09:38 PM
I was thinking that we should keep track of the differences between how Brittany Murphy and Michael's deaths are handled..

I found this one already :

A spokesperson for Cedars Sinai Medical Center told People magazine that Murphy died at the facility Sunday at 10:04 a.m. PST. The actress's rep, Nicole Perna, also confirmed the news, releasing a statement Sunday afternoon that said: "In this time of sadness, the family thanks you for your love and support. It is their wish that you respect their privacy."
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Re: What are the differences?

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:29:56 PM
Yup-thanks I said that we should compare how this death is handled on the thread that was started that she had died. I think that last post on there says that her official death  was confirmed by hospital spokesperson,as you said. We will have to watch..closey I am sure since word is the husband does not want an autopsy. I think you should put the comparatives names up so the thread wont get lost or dupicated :D
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Re: What are the differences?

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:33:51 PM
Ooops sorry neverlandprincess.. I didn't know! but I agree
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:37:44 PM
I'm not positive on this one.. but does anyone remember Ed Winter speculating or commenting on Michael's death?

She did not disclose a cause of death or any other details. But Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said Sunday afternoon the cause of her death "appears to be natural."
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Re: What are the differences?

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
Quote from: "Chance"
Ooops sorry neverlandprincess.. I didn't know! but I agree

Nn its good you started it because I am sure its inevitable that the topic will not stay on the "Murphy dead" topic thread.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:45:19 PM
:oops:
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 20, 2009, 11:47:05 PM
I posted this in another thread but I think it's relevant here.  The 911 call from Brittany Murphy's house was made at 8am, and she was pronounced DOA, but the official time of death wasn't until 10:04am.  

I'm not sure if Ed Winter made an official statement about MJ's "death", although I saw him talking to the TMZ paps, but Craig Harvey held a press conference... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... -play.html
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 12:03:04 AM
I think the thread that she died was moved to Media>Other News.

Here's one difference between Ms Murphy and MJ:

FROM CNN:
"Murphy was pronounced dead at 10:04 a.m. PT Sunday at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, hospital spokeswoman Sally Stewart told CNN Radio."

I believe a hospital spokesperson provided an official statement before her personal spokesperson.  Can anyone confirm the timing of the announcements?  I think Jermaine being the first to announce the MJ situation is not the usual.... and today's tragedy further shines a light on everything that was different.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 12:14:09 AM
Quote from: "YourLoveIsMagical"
I think the thread that she died was moved to Media>Other News.

Here's one difference between Ms Murphy and MJ:

FROM CNN:
"Murphy was pronounced dead at 10:04 a.m. PT Sunday at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, hospital spokeswoman Sally Stewart told CNN Radio."

I believe a hospital spokesperson provided an official statement before her personal spokesperson.  Can anyone confirm the timing of the announcements?  I think Jermaine being the first to announce the MJ situation is not the usual.... and today's tragedy further shines a light on everything that was different.


Exactly.. I have never seen a family member announce a death
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 12:32:32 AM
One difference could be HOW she was transported to the Coroner's office.  Was she transported via helicopter like MJ supposedly was?  I always thought that was so weird.  Why was is that MJ's body had to be taken to the Coroner via helicopter?  Is this routine?
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 12:44:25 AM
A police investigation has been launched and officers have visited the property, located above Sunset Strip.

Wow they visited Brittany's property the same day she died? I dont' believe the police did that when MJ died!
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 12:45:08 AM
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One difference could be HOW she was transported to the Coroner's office.  Was she transported via helicopter like MJ supposedly was?  I always thought that was so weird.  Why was is that MJ's body had to be taken to the Coroner via helicopter?  Is this routine?

I don't think she will be transported until tomorrow.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 02:28:54 AM
Compare these two announcements

The first is Steve Ruda of LAPD outside Michael's house, saying MIchael Jackson was "pronounced" at UCLA.
Lt. Ruda cuts off the questioning fairly quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bVCnjFYRhE

Next is Ed Winter from the LA Coroner's office discussing Brittany Murphy, saying "she was transported to Cedars-Sinai Hospital where she passed away"  

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158953 ... pears.html

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Compare this article

"She was pronounced dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center shortly after 10 a.m., a hospital spokeswoman confirmed. "
http://news.bostonherald.com/track/cele ... position=5

To this article

"Michael Jackson was pronounced dead Thursday after being rushed to a Los Angeles hospital, according to multiple news reports.

Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office told CNN that the singer was pronounced dead at the hospital."   (who gave this information to Fred Corral?)
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/25/michae ... ckson.html

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Compare these two

"Murphy was pronounced dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center at 10:04 a.m., Cedars-Sinai spokeswoman Sally Stewart said, though she said hospital rules did not allow her to confirm a cause of death or give any other details."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/sta ... id=9385992

Statement on the death of Michael Jackson at UCLA Medical Center
By UCLA Newsroom June 25, 2009
The family of Michael Jackson made this brief statement available on June 25 at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center:

The legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009, at 2:26 p.m. It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest in his home. However, the cause of his death is unknown until results of the autopsy are known.
 
His personal physician, who was with him at the time, attempted to resuscitate Jackson, as did paramedics who transported him to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center. Upon arriving at the hospital at approximately 1:14 p.m., a team of doctors, including emergency physicians and cardiologists, attempted to resuscitate him for a period of more than one hour but were unsuccessful.
 
Jackson’s family requests that the media respect their privacy during this tragic period of time.
 http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/me ... 94914.aspx

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The difference seems to be that people are saying she is dead, she passed away, the hospital spokesperson is confirming that information.

In Michael's case, the "death" information never comes from anyone firsthand (except Jermaine).  The hospital never confirms it except to include the family's statement of death on their website.  Steve Ruda says UCLA "pronounced" MJ.  Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office told CNN that the singer was pronounced dead at the hospital." but who gave this information to Fred Corral?
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 05:38:12 AM
Quote from: "pepper"
Compare these two announcements

The first is Steve Ruda of LAPD outside Michael's house, saying MIchael Jackson was "pronounced" at UCLA.
Lt. Ruda cuts off the questioning fairly quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bVCnjFYRhE

Next is Ed Winter from the LA Coroner's office discussing Brittany Murphy, saying "she was transported to Cedars-Sinai Hospital where she passed away"  

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158953 ... pears.html

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Compare this article

"She was pronounced dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center shortly after 10 a.m., a hospital spokeswoman confirmed. "
http://news.bostonherald.com/track/cele ... position=5

To this article

"Michael Jackson was pronounced dead Thursday after being rushed to a Los Angeles hospital, according to multiple news reports.

Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office told CNN that the singer was pronounced dead at the hospital."   (who gave this information to Fred Corral?)
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/25/michae ... ckson.html

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Compare these two

"Murphy was pronounced dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center at 10:04 a.m., Cedars-Sinai spokeswoman Sally Stewart said, though she said hospital rules did not allow her to confirm a cause of death or give any other details."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/sta ... id=9385992

Statement on the death of Michael Jackson at UCLA Medical Center
By UCLA Newsroom June 25, 2009
The family of Michael Jackson made this brief statement available on June 25 at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center:

The legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009, at 2:26 p.m. It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest in his home. However, the cause of his death is unknown until results of the autopsy are known.
 
His personal physician, who was with him at the time, attempted to resuscitate Jackson, as did paramedics who transported him to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center. Upon arriving at the hospital at approximately 1:14 p.m., a team of doctors, including emergency physicians and cardiologists, attempted to resuscitate him for a period of more than one hour but were unsuccessful.
 
Jackson’s family requests that the media respect their privacy during this tragic period of time.
 http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/me ... 94914.aspx

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The difference seems to be that people are saying she is dead, she passed away, the hospital spokesperson is confirming that information.

In Michael's case, the "death" information never comes from anyone firsthand (except Jermaine).  The hospital never confirms it except to include the family's statement of death on their website.  Steve Ruda says UCLA "pronounced" MJ.  Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office told CNN that the singer was pronounced dead at the hospital." but who gave this information to Fred Corral?

This is very good, pepper! What a difference!

And now we can see clearly, that it doesn't keep a doctor/official hospital spokesperson away from giving a statement, that the patient was dead on arrival and that the cause of death is unclear.
It's soooo fishy!

Plus: Michael is still not in the R.I.P. section of TMZ, while Brittany's death was directly posted in that section.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 11:11:01 AM
Brittany's autopsy is underway..according to TMZ..

Not sure how she was transported.. but I will assume it wasn't by helicopter
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 01:04:34 PM
I don't think Brittany's body was transported via helicopter to the autopsy.  

Okay, so, if it is NOT routine to transport bodies from the hospital to the Coroner's Office via helicopter, then that should throw red flags right there regarding MJ.  The transport of his "body" alone seemed like a HUGE production.  Emphasis on "production!"  Plus, the helicopter ride was only a few minutes.  I just don't know why it was so important he be flown to the Coroner's Office.  I think it was for "show" purposes somehow.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 01:15:32 PM
i posted on another thread that the LAPD was in the house same day investigating taking photo's for anything suspicious!! was on sky news this morning..  not like MJ they let his sisters stay there for 2 days before they went anywhere near!! hmmmmmmmm i smell a rat!! or several in the MJ case...  :shock:
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 04:54:32 PM
I'm not a fan, but I'm sad that Brittany Murphy died. I thought she was a sweet girl.  :cry:

I do see the difference in how her death is being reported compared to Michael's.  :?
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 05:01:42 PM
The two confirmations of death have been very different from each other. In Brittanys case a spokesperson confirmed it. In Michaels case Jermaine Jackson confirmed it. It should be illegal for family members to confirm deaths of an ongoing murder investigation. It makes no sense whatsoever! Where are the attorneys and police officers who by routine report these kinds of things? Since when does a close family member report a death of a suspected murder in a pressconference at a hospital?
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 10:27:39 PM
To me, this is the most OBVIOUS difference:

"Murphy was pronounced dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center at 10:04 a.m., Cedars-Sinai spokeswoman Sally Stewart said, though she said hospital rules did not allow her to confirm a cause of death or give any other details."

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/sta ... id=9385992

This goes right along with the HIPPA regulations about a hospital giving out this kind of information on a patient.  The hospital spokesperson confirmed the death, but did not give the cause or any other details.

WHY could UCLA not have responded in the same way to the "death" of Michael Jackson?  It makes no sense to me that UCLA had no response.

Unless there was no "death", in which case they would have no response.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 21, 2009, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: "Chance"
Brittany's autopsy is underway..according to TMZ..

Not sure how she was transported.. but I will assume it wasn't by helicopter

Especially not with a helicopter flying with an open door, a MOVING body in a white sheet and getting out of the helicopter as a surfboard lol  :lol:

I'm not from America but in my country when a celeb dies, hospital's spokesman or the doctor announces the death. I've never heard a family member announcing it.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 22, 2009, 02:03:05 AM
Here's the latest on Brittany on TMZ... http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/brittany- ... stigation/

Funny how forthcoming everyone is with information concerning her death.  :roll:
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 22, 2009, 10:05:14 AM
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Here's the latest on Brittany on TMZ... http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/brittany- ... stigation/

Funny how forthcoming everyone is with information concerning her death.  :roll:

I was thinking the same thing.. I don't remember notes from the investigator being released in Michael's "death"
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 22, 2009, 10:27:52 AM
Last night ET showed a little snippet of Ed Winter talking about her death. He never said anything about her dying. He was just answering a question about HOW she died.
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Re: What are the differences/Michael & Brittany

  • on: December 22, 2009, 11:26:46 AM
Well, my mom was telling me how it would be veeryy similar if Michael would also be dead.
She was taking prescription drugs, she got extremely thin lately, she seemed fine the day she died, she had a cardiac arrest. It's likea mirror of what was said  about Michael.
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