O2 Guy and MJ - differences

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 03, 2011, 06:32:15 AM
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: October 18, 2011, 05:43:25 AM
I'm embarassed to say how LATE I am in noticing this but Wow...I had NO idea @ first that this wasn't the real MJ. He's trying to adust his voice to a higher pitch to sound like Michael, his walk isn't as proper as MJ's, his teeth look nothing like MJ's....and his nose isn't as thin as the real MJ. I can't believe I'm just now figuring this out.  :oops: :ugeek:  :| lol. I sure would have not liked being in the crowd among other screaming fans not knowing that wasn't the real MJ. haha ::P
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 09:59:36 AM
I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts  slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.


it is true:the (real) mikael we knowed was sweet,shy,calm,while this 1 appeared cheeky,aggressive,angry... but,i wonder:could this guy be (the real) mikael who felt "forced" 2 act the part of a "different" person in order 2 make us understand that something odd was going 2 happen?? or,maybe,he was simply nervous because that day he was starting the hoax.... i think we'll never know the truth (unless mikael will explain us everything)

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 11:19:18 AM
Interesting resurrection of this post. I'll use this as an opportunity to reflect.

The O2 guy's teeth are identical to MJ's teeth from as far back as Thriller days forward to 2009. I studied it in depth in August 2009 in an attempt to prove that the O2 guy was not MJ... and ended up proving that he was...

I believe O2 guy is MJ himself play acting a bad impersonator of himself. I believe he purposely acted odd and out of character to cast doubt and create controversy and create mystery for us... once he "died" on 6/25/09, he knew the tape would be scrutinized and analyzed and those who were paying attention would catch the inconsistencies. I believe he purposely acted like Elvis to create a connection there. I believe he may have been wearing facial prosthesis to change his features. I believe he played up that rock star walk. I believe he also circulated those pics of him appearing differently in just a few shots, so as to appear that there were 2 MJs at the O2 that day.

MJ created an illusion of being his own double at the O2 that day. Funnily enough, he did this so subtley that only the hoaxers would realize it, and he steered us toward the doubles theory. In that way, MJ hoaxed the hoaxers. This is what I believe.

I don't believe that this is the only instance in which the hoaxers have been hoaxed. I believe we, as well as the rest of the world, are in for many surprises come bamsday. We only THINK we know the real truth.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
I think the same bec.  I went out of my way to prove to myself that O2 guy was NOT MJ but ended up with the same conclusions as you.  Very clever of Michael...

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 04:15:53 PM
Interesting resurrection of this post. I'll use this as an opportunity to reflect.

The O2 guy's teeth are identical to MJ's teeth from as far back as Thriller days forward to 2009. I studied it in depth in August 2009 in an attempt to prove that the O2 guy was not MJ... and ended up proving that he was...

I believe O2 guy is MJ himself play acting a bad impersonator of himself. I believe he purposely acted odd and out of character to cast doubt and create controversy and create mystery for us... once he "died" on 6/25/09, he knew the tape would be scrutinized and analyzed and those who were paying attention would catch the inconsistencies. I believe he purposely acted like Elvis to create a connection there. I believe he may have been wearing facial prosthesis to change his features. I believe he played up that rock star walk. I believe he also circulated those pics of him appearing differently in just a few shots, so as to appear that there were 2 MJs at the O2 that day.

MJ created an illusion of being his own double at the O2 that day. Funnily enough, he did this so subtley that only the hoaxers would realize it, and he steered us toward the doubles theory. In that way, MJ hoaxed the hoaxers. This is what I believe.

I don't believe that this is the only instance in which the hoaxers have been hoaxed. I believe we, as well as the rest of the world, are in for many surprises come bamsday. We only THINK we know the real truth.


the controversy about the differences about mj and the o2 guy is still interesting,because it is a mystery!! i'm still not able 2 understand who is the man we've seen at the pressconference..... and,yes,the teeth r mikael's.... i hope the truth will prevail.

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 10:24:09 PM
Here's the bottom line. If someone was trying to impersonate MJ and have no one be the wiser... he would have mimicked MJ perfectly. As it is... O2 guy was acting very out of character. Everything was off... he changed the way he walks, he changed the way he talks... I cannot explain...

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
Interesting resurrection of this post. I'll use this as an opportunity to reflect.

The O2 guy's teeth are identical to MJ's teeth from as far back as Thriller days forward to 2009. I studied it in depth in August 2009 in an attempt to prove that the O2 guy was not MJ... and ended up proving that he was...

I believe O2 guy is MJ himself play acting a bad impersonator of himself. I believe he purposely acted odd and out of character to cast doubt and create controversy and create mystery for us... once he "died" on 6/25/09, he knew the tape would be scrutinized and analyzed and those who were paying attention would catch the inconsistencies. I believe he purposely acted like Elvis to create a connection there. I believe he may have been wearing facial prosthesis to change his features. I believe he played up that rock star walk. I believe he also circulated those pics of him appearing differently in just a few shots, so as to appear that there were 2 MJs at the O2 that day.

MJ created an illusion of being his own double at the O2 that day. Funnily enough, he did this so subtley that only the hoaxers would realize it, and he steered us toward the doubles theory. In that way, MJ hoaxed the hoaxers. This is what I believe.

I don't believe that this is the only instance in which the hoaxers have been hoaxed. I believe we, as well as the rest of the world, are in for many surprises come bamsday. We only THINK we know the real truth.


I agree with almost everything you wrote bec. Just except the part where hoaxers were hoaxed by Michael about the 02 conference. I never thought that it wasn't Michael at the 02. I see no difference at all, so I'm not so sure if his intention was to impersonate himself. But I agree that it was Michael himself at 02. 

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: November 05, 2011, 11:23:37 PM
I think that many of us have indeed come full circle over these past two years. Watching  O2 guy's strange swaggering appearance as it happened pre- hoax death  was when I first took the bait and the double theory was  the initial rabbit hole that led to many of our fantastical and sometimes far fetched theories and adventures. 2+ years later and it is now only now that I seem to have come full circle. I still don't understand why there appears to be 3 distinct personalities displayed by MJ in TII except to maybe represent the real man, the flamboyant entertainer,  and the the media representation of the man [-Mr orange pants]. And a few nights ago I had a dream sequence that I recalled and named My Tangerine Dream In it was all the orange connections in the hoax thus far starting with Mr Orange pants in TII...the cebu prison dancers forming upside down triangle while dancing to TDRCAU.....the sunflowers......chernoff's tie....pumpkin in court........orange triangular traffic sign in Murray pic....the clothing colour of choice for the family's unveiling of art at the hospital.....Jermaine's orange shirt while doing his book promotions ....and well. this site. It is interesting to note that the colour is useful for the stimulating of the senses and "feeling alive." [cough] Make you want to expand your horizons and look into new interests while demanding attention. So in summing up my off topic musings...I will finish up by saying that MR Jackson has indeed done his homework and has used every trick in the book including subliminal psychological triggers to draw us into this whole ARG. And I for one am glad that he did and also glad that I took the scenic route by travelling down these rabbit holes. It's been an adventure....a great adventure.

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 04, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
i honestly dont think the O2 arena MJ wasnt MJ
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 04, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
i honestly dont think the O2 arena MJ wasnt MJ

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 04, 2013, 11:08:26 PM
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 22, 2013, 08:27:22 AM
This is just to show you that the 02 guy was Michael Jackson himself, check and compare his left hand in these pics, the only different is that MJ was using a prosthetic nose and perhaps a prosthetic chin besides using that horrible wig that made him look weird:

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 22, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Hi sweet, I don't mean any disrespect, but these pictures show that it wasn't Michael at the O2. It is only my opinion and I may be wrong.  I feel that Michael was there in London, but it wasn't him at the conference.

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 22, 2013, 06:58:07 PM



@ sweetsunsetwithMJ   was using prosthetic nose and perhaps a prosthetic chin   :icon_e_surprised:  :icon_e_surprised:

                                               



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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 22, 2013, 07:08:38 PM
Faith we will see at the end of the hoax, look at the hand is a photocopy = is exactly the same.

Blankie notice how the O2 guy has more rounded nose, may be using a silicone prosthetic nose.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 22, 2013, 10:33:28 PM
Yes he may have used facial prosthesis. 
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 23, 2013, 02:56:27 AM

Body Double or not......
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 23, 2013, 03:03:11 AM
I'm not sure but the middlefinger looks longer in the "real" picture. It can  be caused by the picture angle also but I'm notconvinced.

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 23, 2013, 04:24:53 PM
I'm not sure but the middlefinger looks longer in the "real" picture. It can  be caused by the picture angle also but I'm notconvinced.

Tove please the size of the middle finger is exactly the same, HANDS ARE THE SAME he is MJ, he called me before attending the O2 speech!! :icon_lol:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 23, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
Chaplin himself went to an "Chaplin impersonnating" contest and... HE LOST !

Who can look more like MJ, than MJ himself...

I think O2 guy is MJ. There was A LOT of make up, strange behaviour but i only see 2 reasons for that

- MJ wanted to confuse even his fans, and see what success : we still have no idea if it was him or not. What fake fans we are lool

- Don't forget he was "out of stage" since 10 years, people expected him, it was a lot of pressure so i think he was maybe nervous about his look, about his behaviour. I remember long time ago people would talk about him having a wig, about him having too much make up etc etc... so maybe he did what he thought to be best as such important moment.

To sum up, i think it's a mix of both. He started the rumors about doubles and i think he was also nervous about getting the hoax started.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 23, 2013, 06:16:05 PM
frikken love this thread! lol its like a black hole. subject matter has me constantly going to and fro

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 23, 2013, 07:37:13 PM
Faith we will see at the end of the hoax, look at the hand is a photocopy = is exactly the same.

Blankie notice how the O2 guy has more rounded nose, may be using a silicone prosthetic nose.

Thanks sweet for your answer, I always thought that the boy of 02 was not Michael .. :icon_rolleyes:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 24, 2013, 01:57:49 AM
Chaplin himself went to an "Chaplin impersonnating" contest and... HE LOST !

Who can look more like MJ, than MJ himself...

I think O2 guy is MJ. There was A LOT of make up, strange behaviour but i only see 2 reasons for that

- MJ wanted to confuse even his fans, and see what success : we still have no idea if it was him or not. What fake fans we are lool

- Don't forget he was "out of stage" since 10 years, people expected him, it was a lot of pressure so i think he was maybe nervous about his look, about his behaviour. I remember long time ago people would talk about him having a wig, about him having too much make up etc etc... so maybe he did what he thought to be best as such important moment.

To sum up, i think it's a mix of both. He started the rumors about doubles and i think he was also nervous about getting the hoax started.

yep yep yep, that's exactly what I think  :icon_razz:

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: April 24, 2013, 03:04:21 AM
I love this thread too!

I settled on O2 guy being MJ a long time ago after extensive dissection of every moment of that announcement! There are several very subtle mannerisms (e.g.touching his mouth, raised eyebrows/mouthed closed) that I've seen from MJ in many interviews/speeches over the years and these led me to the conclusion that it was him at O2, albeit 'different'!

However ...... if I recognise these mannerisms, he is surely aware of them too and could easily have a double drop them in to his performance! (Although it looked so natural that I don't really believe this!)

Probably the only thing that now gives me any doubts that it was MJ, is him saying in the Geraldo interview when talking about taking film to a new level, that he was into directing not acting.

Wonder if he'll ever tell!