O2 Guy and MJ - differences

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 09:57:55 AM
I love how you can do that Sinds, make the sarcasm practically drip off my screen!! :lol:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 01:51:46 PM
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I love how you can do that Sinds, make the sarcasm practically drip off my screen!! :lol:

Hahahaha
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
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Once MJ is back, if ever, idk how people is going to believe it is him.

They will believe it. Besides the fact that his smile and eyes will convince people, I am sure he has that covered.

The eyes! Hopefully no sunglasses!
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 08:14:39 PM
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First though,I'd have to find all those thousands of pictures taken by the crowd that never made it onto any social networking site/photo album/google/etc
amazing...truly.


So true!
I found just 1 video in youtube from a "fan" who closed his account. May be is time to search if more fans got videos up, but I think i wont be able to find many.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
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First though,I'd have to find all those thousands of pictures taken by the crowd that never made it onto any social networking site/photo album/google/etc
amazing...truly.


So true!
I found just 1 video in youtube from a "fan" who closed his account. May be is time to search if more fans got videos up, but I think i wont be able to find many.

You won't find any Gem,they don't exist.This is one of THE main factors to the whole thing being the start of this 'production' set up and 'controlled' to the point that there are no images,footage,anything from a single 'fan' who was stood in that crowd.
There was supposed to be nearly or over 2000 people there for it...so where are the thousands of individual shots taken all day/and after it started?
The camera's and phones weren't banned,because you can see them being used in media images of it.
I have more photos uploaded to my fb from a night at Thriller Live as an audience member than there are photos from the crowd at the 02. #truestory
I will find the thread and the pic which I drew on and you can see at least 100 people in the crowd,at the front,with camera's,phones etc all on,all capturing footage...where is it?
More or less every shot from the 02 conf is a controlled image,'MJ' red curtain this is it and is completley abnormal and fake/impossible if it had of been 'real'.
You can even see the 6guys round the table with photos open in photoshop on TII!!

I don't care what ANYONE says,that was no run of the mill press conference and I know nothing is run of the mill with Michael but this takes a top position in the list of 'off events'
there are images from who knows where,where the stage looks totally different,the curtain is a different shape-more squared not circular around the stage,different people in different positions around it.
Then you have the fact on the TII movie,the enterance to the V studios looking like the part where he arrived at the 02 with the golf buggy only...he walked past it at the conf,and got into it on the movie.
All this is fact,and can't really be ignored so why anyone would think the man on the stage is Michael..when nothing else about it is really real or kosher...I don't get it.
No offense to anyone who believes it is MJ but that's my opinion.

EVERYTHING is off,from the moment his foot steps off out the car/splitter van thing he arrives in to the last wave goodbye.

and another thing,Dermott O'Leary said on a UK tv show when asked about meeting Michael at the 02 what he was like,he described him as being well built,having premier leauge player stature and basically saying he could feel he was 'ripped' when he hugged him....Michael,ripped like a football player?
yet a few days later in LA his face was thin again,he was thin in general-normal MJ thin and didn't looked ripped by any means.

I will never be convinced.Never.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts  slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
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I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts  slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.

Dude's got swagger...watch it...he steps out,and bounces like he is from Compton
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:12:32 PM
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I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts  slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.

Dude's got swagger...watch it...he steps out,and bounces like he is from Compton


Sorry Sinderella, Is Compton a city in USA? I am from Canada .. sorry if I sound stupid.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:17:03 PM
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I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts  slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.

Dude's got swagger...watch it...he steps out,and bounces like he is from Compton


Sorry Sinderella, Is Compton a city in USA? I am from Canada .. sorry if I sound stupid.

No it's ok =]
Compton is a city in south LA,it has a lot of BAD gangs and gangsters and so on.
Basically,I meant the 02 guy walks with a bounce like he is from the hood,not Michael Jackson.
And yes,swinging his arms about and fist pumping the air,with no vocabulary other than..this is it.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
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I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts  slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.

Dude's got swagger...watch it...he steps out,and bounces like he is from Compton


Sorry Sinderella, Is Compton a city in USA? I am from Canada .. sorry if I sound stupid.

No it's ok =]
Compton is a city in south LA,it has a lot of gangs and is known for gangsters and so on.
Basically,I meant the 02 guy walks with a bounce like he is from the hood,not Michael Jackson.
And yes,swinging his arms about and fist pumping the air,with no vocabulary other than..this is it...

Exactly, yes thank you.. I have heard of Compton but I wasn't sure. Thanks for letting me know. Indeed, he was  rough not the sweet delicate Michael.. His voice was deeper than Michael's . Blessings.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:30:11 PM
Honestly,I could go on and on about everything that is WRONG with/about it.

Yeah,if you go to LA...stay away from compton...
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
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Honestly,I could go on and on about everything that is WRONG with/about it.

Yeah,if you go to LA...stay away from compton...


Actually I was thinking to come down this summer on my vacation, and thank you for advising me about Compton. maybe will see you in LA..
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:44:56 PM
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Honestly,I could go on and on about everything that is WRONG with/about it.

Yeah,if you go to LA...stay away from compton...


Actually I was thinking to come down this summer on my vacation, and thank you for advising me about Compton. maybe will see you in LA..


Oh you should!!!! Come hang out in the sunshine =]
it's just a bad area,everywhere has an area that is notorious.
 LA as a place though is awesome and beautiful.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 10:54:43 PM
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Honestly,I could go on and on about everything that is WRONG with/about it.

Yeah,if you go to LA...stay away from compton...


Actually I was thinking to come down this summer on my vacation, and thank you for advising me about Compton. maybe will see you in LA..


Oh you should!!!! Come hang out in the sunshine =]
it's just a bad area,everywhere has an area that is notorious.
 LA as a place though is awesome and beautiful.


I need the sunshine, here in Montreal, very cold snowing all the time.. getting pretty much fed up  :lol:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 01, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
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and another thing,Dermott O'Leary said on a UK tv show when asked about meeting Michael at the 02 what he was like,he described him as being well built,having premier leauge player stature and basically saying he could feel he was 'ripped' when he hugged him....Michael,ripped like a football player?
yet a few days later in LA his face was thin again,he was thin in general-normal MJ thin and didn't looked ripped by any means.

I will never be convinced.Never.

Yes...his body is not Michaels...omg, look at his broad shoulders and his muscular chest!

On the other side...(no I am not saying that could be MJ)...did anyone seen "Leatherheads" with George Clooney? George was not ripped like O2-guy, he was just slender, but with shoulder pads on - wow! Really broad!

But now I am confused...O2-guys jacket has also shoulder pads? Right? But Dermot described him as ripped like a football player? Always if I look at O2-sweetheart, then I see a man with a body like a leightweight-bodybuilder.

Ripped...omg...*thinks about O2-"MJ" washboard abs and faints*
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 01, 2011, 06:23:15 PM
question: When did the 10 concerts get changed to 50 concerts?

before or after the O2 con?
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 06:08:36 AM
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question: When did the 10 concerts get changed to 50 concerts?

before or after the O2 con?

Well,they never really got added as we know because the whole thing was never going to happen but after the conference the tic for 10days went on sale and sold out within a few days it was up to 50 and those were on sale.
I don't know whether everyone got a refund,there was a clause in ordering that said if it was cancelled and was not the 02s fault they would not be refunding tickets.
A lot of people swapped the concert ticket for an exhibition one instead,some kept hold of them and some are still being sold on eBay to collectors.

Either way,Huge amounts of $$$$ were made from a non existent tour due to the loophole in the order disclaimer and fans going the exhibition-and then added revenue from the merchandise sold....and people generally hanging on to them because it was a ticket from his last tour.
If you need to fund a death hoax...that is one smart way to do it.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
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question: When did the 10 concerts get changed to 50 concerts?

before or after the O2 con?

Well,they never really got added as we know because the whole thing was never going to happen but after the conference the tic for 10days went on sale and sold out within a few days it was up to 50 and those were on sale.
I don't know whether everyone got a refund,there was a clause in ordering that said if it was cancelled and was not the 02s fault they would not be refunding tickets.
A lot of people swapped the concert ticket for an exhibition one instead,some kept hold of them and some are still being sold on eBay to collectors.

Either way,Huge amounts of $$$$ were made from a non existent tour due to the loophole in the order disclaimer and fans going the exhibition-and then added revenue from the merchandise sold....and people generally hanging on to them because it was a ticket from his last tour.
If you need to fund a death hoax...that is one smart way to do it.

I got refunds for 3 shows within 3 weeks with no problem at all.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 01:24:37 PM
Well I am very happy for you, so you should have as well.
I did say I didn't know if it was everyone, I just know a few people who didn't.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 01:34:51 PM
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Well I am very happy for you, so you should have as well.
I did say I didn't know if it was everyone, I just know a few people who didn't.

I wasn't trying to be funny or off - just letting you know that I got 3 refunds.  Your post looks a little sarcastic - but I could be wrong of course.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 05:05:08 PM
Looks like I'm alone thinking O2 guy is Michael. Oh well...
But I thought I'd throw in the LKL  with Lou Ferrigno and Miko Brando talking about training MJ for TII concerts.
Lou says of MJ's body, "He was the same like 20 years ago" and "his moves, he convinced me he could make the biggest comeback in history." MJ was indeed ripped. They both knew MJ well.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 05:17:56 PM
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Looks like I'm alone thinking O2 guy is Michael. Oh well...

You are not alone, MJonmind.  I think it's quite possible that O2 guy is Michael, disguised as a fake Michael, acting out of character so this whole "is it him or not" debate would happen.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 05:36:11 PM
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Looks like I'm alone thinking O2 guy is Michael. Oh well...

'You are not alone ... I am here with you'  ;)
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 02, 2011, 11:00:02 PM
My daughter got a refund but she said it took ages.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: March 03, 2011, 05:18:13 AM
Thanks!
But you know MJ lives for controversy, and having opposite opinions on many topics here on this forum has actually been a helpful thing, because it makes us dig even "fight" for support for our view, while examining what the other side think also. Sometimes I've changed my mind about things because someone gave convincing evidence. Narrow-minded people just stick with one view and refuse to check if they are mistaken. A thread will dry up quickly without it. Who wants boring? :) I learn from you all!
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