O2 Guy and MJ - differences

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 29, 2011, 07:00:09 AM
I'm just going to bring this back on topic as it's moved into being about the differences in the Bashir docufilm instead-which is fine for comparison purposes!!but overall 02 MJ or not 02 MJ is the question (enter shakespeare aha)

The 02 MJ with the swagger who walks past the golf buggy at the 02 is the one arriving on it in TII at Culver city,yet by the time he reaches the table where they are doing effects on the laptop,he has a totally different face shape,is much thinner,has different hair and looks nothing like the guy at the 02 .
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 29, 2011, 08:27:33 AM
O2 guy, can go on forever, as both isdes have good arguments and evidence they show, i my self, am not fully convinced O2 guy is MJ, not really sure what to believe with it, and TII, i cant seem watch it, without thinking, that prob a double performing that song rehearsal  :?  the whole double MJ thing, gotten to me to much i reckon :lol:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 29, 2011, 09:47:01 AM
I don't think the guy at O2 was Michael. What really shocks me is the sudden transition.
Before O2, he was pale and thin with a slight cleft. Then at the O2 Conference, suddenly he is very well built, muscles and all, with a tan and a deep cleft.

This could be explained by surgery, sure. Klein mentioned he was going to fix him up, or something like that.

I would have believed this were Michael at O2, if just a few months later he looked the same. But during the TII rehearsals, he's back to being pale and frail again. Thats too big of a transition. No way he can go back and forth between appearances that way.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 29, 2011, 02:47:10 PM
MJ loved illusions; Morph is his favorite character; he frequently visited Arnie Klein who is the absolute best in his field of dermatology including surgery and injections; his weight fluctuated because of his eating disorder; and he was a master at make-up, lighting angles, body language and movement, doing voices and facial expressions. The only constant seems to be his hands. The hands of O2 guy matches other MJ hand pics. JMO
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 29, 2011, 02:50:38 PM
Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhh it's time for Sin's 02 picture collection to resurface haha :mrgreen:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 29, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
Arnie Klein said he did a lot of fillers and maybe he just did not take that silly Karen woman with him, therefore had human coloured makeup!
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 30, 2011, 12:28:35 PM
But in TII, he looked nothing like 02 guy - the guy at the 02 was a one-off - only for that particular performance imho.  I've not seen him either before 02 or since.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 30, 2011, 02:35:19 PM
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Arnie Klein said he did a lot of fillers and maybe he just did not take that silly Karen woman with him, therefore had human coloured makeup!
Yes Arnie did say that...after all its Arnies job & no reason for him to lie about tht..

I still believe O2 guy was MJ... if anything MJ at the O2 was disguised as an impersonator, he was just starting controversy i.e. give people something to talk about.

At the O2 when MJ talked about the final curtain call I believe he was referring to the O2 conference as being his final curtain call & that he said his good bye that day.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 30, 2011, 03:28:11 PM
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Arnie Klein said he did a lot of fillers and maybe he just did not take that silly Karen woman with him, therefore had human coloured makeup!
Yes Arnie did say that...after all its Arnies job & no reason for him to lie about tht..
Arnie Klein also said Mike peed in a cup in public, so I'm not so sure if we need to take Arnie that serious :lol:  :lol:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 30, 2011, 04:20:44 PM
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Arnie Klein said he did a lot of fillers and maybe he just did not take that silly Karen woman with him, therefore had human coloured makeup!
Yes Arnie did say that...after all its Arnies job & no reason for him to lie about tht..
Arnie Klein also said Mike peed in a cup in public, so I'm not so sure if we need to take Arnie that serious :lol:  :lol:
Its The Greatest Show On Earth & its satirical humor.

This movie is satire at its finest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

I remember Arnie sayin that...:lol: peed in cup in public thats so funny  :lol:

That reminds me of the Autopsy Report & the container filled with pee found by his bed.

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Animal toys in the courtroom ...the list is long...but its all satire.

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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: January 30, 2011, 08:46:43 PM
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But in TII, he looked nothing like 02 guy - the guy at the 02 was a one-off - only for that particular performance imho.  I've not seen him either before 02 or since.

I have to totally agree with you here.  What was the time lapse between the announcement and the rehearsals we see in TII?  Because there is certainly a whole different look of the 2 Michaels making that announcement and at those rehearsals.  A big difference IMO. At first I was a little thrown off by the 02 guy but thought it could still have been MJ.  It was only after making the comparison with the movie Michael that made me think differently.  I don’t know.  Something feels off about it.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 03, 2011, 01:37:33 AM
It wasn't Michael on that stage in London. I am almost sure of it  
In fact I am not sure but I think it wasn't him....the first impression was it wasn't him
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 02:28:44 AM
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This has created war of words in the past...and you dare go there :)

Yep...Michael definitely on the right. One, maybe two of the real MJ on the left....but there are fakes mixed in as the others are saying.

It's been documented that Navi was at the 02 that day - however, I don't think that was him on stage. I'm not sure who that was...

It's also been documented that fans swarmed one of the impersonators at the 02 thinking it was Michael - but it wasn't.

[youtube:31iq27gx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1mTtuaaP0M[/youtube:31iq27gx]

I just commented on that video because it's hilarious; it's pending approval. My comment was:

Those people must be f***ing blind. When he shows his face to the camera from 0:50 you can clearly see it's not him. It's only from behind he resembles Michael but they were looking directly at his face. It's blatantly obvious the man is an impersonator; those "fans" must be on bloody drugs I swear.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 02:58:58 AM
I never considered there being doubles in Living with Michael Jackson.  The only thing which was weird is that when he changed the story about whether or not he knew Blanket's mother, Bashir never stopped him and said "But you said you knew her, and had a relationship with her...and now you're saying you used a surrogate you didn't know at all." I mean, it was an obvious contradiction and I always thought even someone scummy as Bashir could surely not be that stupid to have not picked up on it?! I mean, seriously...Bashir was meant to be a well paid journalist who interviewed Princess Diana, MJ and who knows who else...but huge celebrities...and he's that stupid he actually missed the contradiction right under his nose? Give me a break... :roll:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 03:15:25 AM
To me these are all the same smiles. How can you mimic the subtle nuances of someones every facial muscle move and emotion.[attachment=2:dl1e5b7w]ghost3.jpg[/attachment:dl1e5b7w][attachment=1:dl1e5b7w]MJJ-michael-jackson-19259937-500-426[1].jpg[/attachment:dl1e5b7w][attachment=0:dl1e5b7w]Untitled.jpg[/attachment:dl1e5b7w]
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 05:34:25 AM
Oh I don't know anymore  :roll:
The fact is there are times when he looks slightly different. Could be the make-up and the clothes giving us the illusion that sometimes it's not him but a double........ but Michael is crazy enough to have a perfect double .......
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 01:56:52 PM
Joe Jackson said that TII had MJ doubles. In the Gilda make off? video, there is a MJ (double?) sitting on a chair and another standing up.

Decoys MJ had on contract, that we know. Also, other theories have been discussed, as an impersonator passed, not "real" MJ.

Once MJ is back, if ever, idk how people is going to believe it is him.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 04:03:06 PM
Not Michael =]
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 04:41:21 PM
It was not Michael at the 02. The width of his face is off, the smile is wrong, the teeth, mannerisms, everything. It was not him.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 05:41:10 PM
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This has created war of words in the past...and you dare go there :)

Yep...Michael definitely on the right. One, maybe two of the real MJ on the left....but there are fakes mixed in as the others are saying.

It's been documented that Navi was at the 02 that day - however, I don't think that was him on stage. I'm not sure who that was...

It's also been documented that fans swarmed one of the impersonators at the 02 thinking it was Michael - but it wasn't.

[youtube:23wemiso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1mTtuaaP0M[/youtube:23wemiso]


I can see in a split second in thatvideo it's not Michael so why can't the fans there. It's strange

I just commented on that video because it's hilarious; it's pending approval. My comment was:

Those people must be f***ing blind. When he shows his face to the camera from 0:50 you can clearly see it's not him. It's only from behind he resembles Michael but they were looking directly at his face. It's blatantly obvious the man is an impersonator; those "fans" must be on bloody drugs I swear.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 24, 2011, 09:36:36 PM
@ mumof3 I started laughing when he showed his face to the camera, they looked like real fans but then it just looked like a joke  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  maybe a set-up?
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 25, 2011, 04:02:39 PM
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Once MJ is back, if ever, idk how people is going to believe it is him.

They will believe it. Besides the fact that his smile and eyes will convince people, I am sure he has that covered.
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 04:39:21 AM
Every time I review the O2 pres conf I wonder what's wrong with his upper lip :?  it really doesn't look like Michael's upper lip but of course, maybe they used too much lipstick on it  :?
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 04:44:42 AM
This press conf still fascinates me as the most weird press conf of all times :?
I hate those sun-glasses and the frustration of not seeing his eyes is almost unbearable :evil:
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Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences

  • on: February 26, 2011, 07:27:41 AM
I honestly feel like writing a book on this whole event.
It would make for amazing reading.

First though,I'd have to find all those thousands of pictures taken by the crowd that never made it onto any social networking site/photo album/google/etc
amazing...truly.


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