O2 Guy and MJ - differences

on: January 20, 2011, 07:02:59 AM

Just to point out,Michael was in London for the 02 conference,he just never went on the stage.
He was pictured by the media arriving at the airport,at the hotel, leaving the hotel,arriving back at the hotel,going to a show..but what happened in between is not Michael.
I think that is exactly what he was there for...to be seen so no one questioned it...and to oversee the start of his production obviously ;)

on: January 20, 2011, 07:37:08 AM

He really made those three words his own work

*Walks on stage*

THIS IS IT

THIS IS IT

THIS

IS

IT

THIS IS IT!

*walks off stage*

on: January 20, 2011, 07:52:33 PM

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON DOUBLES FROM TII!!!!!!!
That's gonna be book 2..hahahaha

on: January 22, 2011, 03:13:41 PM

The only time I believe I see Michael in TII is when the dancers are auditioning and he's there with his glasses on clapping away and then performing in gold pants,a fedora+glasses.
He is the only one who has no close ups,is featured least through the entire thing,sounds stupid but has his trousers MJ length and I can't really put in to words what I see but I see Michael.When he throws his jacket off his shoulders,moves-it's natural and flows.
No clue who anyone else is,to me,the MJ on stage in grey and red doing TDCAU looks like Michael YEARS ago and the one in the orange trousers....well....I'd like to meet him to inform him he needs dance lessons and needs to eat a few happy meals.

I am seriously trying to refrain from getting into this conversation because it enrages me LOL.

on: January 23, 2011, 08:17:14 AM

The whole Bashir interview distubs me, it's very hard to watch

@Bec Well exactly....

on: January 23, 2011, 09:05:30 AM

It wasn't just how his face changed,I mean..it looks almost like he had surgery mid way through the film or put weight on or something,it's also what he was saying.I sat there watched it,I was much younger than I am now...but even then I was like
MICHAEL WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
It was 100% made to make him look,deranged,unstable,and basically weird...confirming all the rumours about him and then the aftermath sealed the deal.
I only watched it once in full,I couldn't watch it again.

Shall I swear for you Gema?

FUCK BASHIR and his documentary.

there you go.haha

on: January 23, 2011, 09:19:11 AM

Oh,You'd need a censor for my true feelings on KF lmao!

on: January 23, 2011, 12:05:02 PM

See...I couldn't even watch all of that 1.45 clip then,I skipped through it.
He says things in such an innocent way with no intent...and they are turned into something awful.
As soon as Bashir says you have them on your computer...that was it.
I know this thread isn't about that whole incident but i'm just saying.

Back to doubles and non 02 MJ....
My brain is going to literally explode with all of this I think.

on: January 23, 2011, 12:46:35 PM

Quote from: "frogh777"

Well, At least we are sure now about the fact that MJ owned a computer... :lol:

LOL,yeah,he had about 14 in total,well that they took from the house.Who needs 14 computers?there was one in the bathroom in a hidden compartment too,I can only imagine what that was used for...haha.

on: January 23, 2011, 05:12:07 PM

Quote from: "Gema"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you are the voice of the thoughts circulating around here at times
Quote from: "Sinderella"
LOL,yeah,he had about 14 in total,well that they took from the house.Who needs 14 computers?there was one in the bathroom in a hidden compartment too,I can only imagine what that was used for...haha.

Were you not thinking online grocery shopping whilst in the bath no?

hahaha

on: January 28, 2011, 06:57:17 AM

Quote from: "2good2btrue"

Maybe because TII was never supposed to be a tour/concert....it was always supposed to be a movie.

Yup!!!!!Spot on,it was never going to be a tour

on: January 29, 2011, 07:00:09 AM

I'm just going to bring this back on topic as it's moved into being about the differences in the Bashir docufilm instead-which is fine for comparison purposes!!but overall 02 MJ or not 02 MJ is the question (enter shakespeare aha)

The 02 MJ with the swagger who walks past the golf buggy at the 02 is the one arriving on it in TII at Culver city,yet by the time he reaches the table where they are doing effects on the laptop,he has a totally different face shape,is much thinner,has different hair and looks nothing like the guy at the 02 .
I have pictures somewhere......*going to find them

on: January 29, 2011, 02:50:38 PM

Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhh it's time for Sin's 02 picture collection to resurface haha :mrgreen:

on: February 24, 2011, 04:03:06 PM

Not Michael =]

on: February 26, 2011, 07:27:41 AM

I honestly feel like writing a book on this whole event.
It would make for amazing reading.

First though,I'd have to find all those thousands of pictures taken by the crowd that never made it onto any social networking site/photo album/google/etc
amazing...truly.

02 Press conference,you do make me YAWN.

on: February 26, 2011, 01:51:46 PM

Quote from: "trustno1"

I love how you can do that Sinds, make the sarcasm practically drip off my screen!! :lol:

Hahahaha

on: February 26, 2011, 09:57:58 PM

Quote from: "Gema"

Quote from: "Sinderella"

First though,I'd have to find all those thousands of pictures taken by the crowd that never made it onto any social networking site/photo album/google/etc
amazing...truly.

So true!
I found just 1 video in youtube from a "fan" who closed his account. May be is time to search if more fans got videos up, but I think i wont be able to find many.

You won't find any Gem,they don't exist.This is one of THE main factors to the whole thing being the start of this 'production' set up and 'controlled' to the point that there are no images,footage,anything from a single 'fan' who was stood in that crowd.
There was supposed to be nearly or over 2000 people there for it...so where are the thousands of individual shots taken all day/and after it started?
The camera's and phones weren't banned,because you can see them being used in media images of it.
I have more photos uploaded to my fb from a night at Thriller Live as an audience member than there are photos from the crowd at the 02. #truestory
I will find the thread and the pic which I drew on and you can see at least 100 people in the crowd,at the front,with camera's,phones etc all on,all capturing footage...where is it?
More or less every shot from the 02 conf is a controlled image,'MJ' red curtain this is it and is completley abnormal and fake/impossible if it had of been 'real'.
You can even see the 6guys round the table with photos open in photoshop on TII!!

I don't care what ANYONE says,that was no run of the mill press conference and I know nothing is run of the mill with Michael but this takes a top position in the list of 'off events'
there are images from who knows where,where the stage looks totally different,the curtain is a different shape-more squared not circular around the stage,different people in different positions around it.
Then you have the fact on the TII movie,the enterance to the V studios looking like the part where he arrived at the 02 with the golf buggy only...he walked past it at the conf,and got into it on the movie.
All this is fact,and can't really be ignored so why anyone would think the man on the stage is Michael..when nothing else about it is really real or kosher...I don't get it.
No offense to anyone who believes it is MJ but that's my opinion.

EVERYTHING is off,from the moment his foot steps off out the car/splitter van thing he arrives in to the last wave goodbye.

and another thing,Dermott O'Leary said on a UK tv show when asked about meeting Michael at the 02 what he was like,he described him as being well built,having premier leauge player stature and basically saying he could feel he was 'ripped' when he hugged him....Michael,ripped like a football player?
yet a few days later in LA his face was thin again,he was thin in general-normal MJ thin and didn't looked ripped by any means.

I will never be convinced.Never.

on: February 26, 2011, 10:10:09 PM

Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.

Dude's got swagger...watch it...he steps out,and bounces like he is from Compton

on: February 26, 2011, 10:17:03 PM

Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

Quote from: "Sinderella"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
I always said it, the O2 dude is not Michael Jackson. Just his voice and mannerism. Since when Michael starts slouching when he walks, and than he starts bending and starts moving with his arm back and forth, He is a shy man, and everytime he did an interview he had poise, and was very calm and his voice was soft. This dude was total opposite.

Dude's got swagger...watch it...he steps out,and bounces like he is from Compton

Sorry Sinderella, Is Compton a city in USA? I am from Canada .. sorry if I sound stupid.

No it's ok =]
Compton is a city in south LA,it has a lot of BAD gangs and gangsters and so on.
Basically,I meant the 02 guy walks with a bounce like he is from the hood,not Michael Jackson.
And yes,swinging his arms about and fist pumping the air,with no vocabulary other than..this is it.

on: February 26, 2011, 10:30:11 PM

Honestly,I could go on and on about everything that is WRONG with/about it.

Yeah,if you go to LA...stay away from compton...

on: February 26, 2011, 10:44:56 PM

Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

Quote from: "Sinderella"
Honestly,I could go on and on about everything that is WRONG with/about it.

Yeah,if you go to LA...stay away from compton...

Actually I was thinking to come down this summer on my vacation, and thank you for advising me about Compton. maybe will see you in LA..

Oh you should!!!! Come hang out in the sunshine =]
it's just a bad area,everywhere has an area that is notorious.
LA as a place though is awesome and beautiful.

on: March 02, 2011, 06:08:36 AM

Quote from: "libra8"

question: When did the 10 concerts get changed to 50 concerts?

before or after the O2 con?

Well,they never really got added as we know because the whole thing was never going to happen but after the conference the tic for 10days went on sale and sold out within a few days it was up to 50 and those were on sale.
I don't know whether everyone got a refund,there was a clause in ordering that said if it was cancelled and was not the 02s fault they would not be refunding tickets.
A lot of people swapped the concert ticket for an exhibition one instead,some kept hold of them and some are still being sold on eBay to collectors.

Either way,Huge amounts of $$$$ were made from a non existent tour due to the loophole in the order disclaimer and fans going the exhibition-and then added revenue from the merchandise sold....and people generally hanging on to them because it was a ticket from his last tour.
If you need to fund a death hoax...that is one smart way to do it.

on: March 02, 2011, 01:24:37 PM

Well I am very happy for you, so you should have as well.
I did say I didn't know if it was everyone, I just know a few people who didn't.

on: March 03, 2011, 06:32:15 AM

Quote from: "Datroot"

Quote from: "Sinderella"
Well I am very happy for you, so you should have as well.
I did say I didn't know if it was everyone, I just know a few people who didn't.

I wasn't trying to be funny or off - just letting you know that I got 3 refunds. Your post looks a little sarcastic - but I could be wrong of course.

No,I know I wasn't being sarcastic :)
I know people got refunds which is totally right,they should have,I think it depends where they were bought and so on.
A lot of money was made from a non existent tour though