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Hi Gina, but if there is a body, Serenity made a good point, numerology can't be involved.I don't know how you feel about numerology. And i still think about the legal way Michael could return safe after a real trial, which i'm sure it is.
Ok, I have a thought. Maybe a little controversial but it has been in my mind for ages. I think the main point TS wants to refer to is that there indeed was a dead body and not that the prelim is real. Someone died on June 25 and that person was terminally ill. If you look at the AR the person was really ill, and I think that person had cancer (lungs and liver showed dark spots I think). Don't forget TMZ reported right after June 25 that MJ received a shot of Demerol on a daily basis. That's a strong painkiller. They also have found marihuana and sigarettes (to make a joint). This is a good painkiller as well and used a lot by terminally ill cancer patients who are in serious pain. The person died on an OD of propofol, I don't know what they use for human beings that are being euthanized, I need to call a doctor here in Holland for that, but it IS used to euthanize animals. The dose might not be fatal for a healthy person, but it can be for a terminally ill person.There are different explanations for the timing of June 25. One is that maybe initially Mike planned to use a dummy, but this just came his way. This person has had a lot of plastic surgery: nose, ears, wrists even (see AR). There is a chance that this person was one of his doubles (or even the main double), who had surgery to look like him. I can only imagine how well they would have known each other. Being able to play a double (and I am not talking about an impersonator) means you have to spend a lot of your time with the person you need to become. There is a big chance they knew each other for decades. That would also mean that this double was aware of Mike's plan. Maybe when he heard he was ill and wouldn't get better, he offered to Mike to be his dead body as well. With assistent suicide the date can be planned. Maybe he was such a loyal person. Also don't forget that the Jacksons did bury a person on July 6, 2009 at Forest Lawn (can't search for that YouTube now, but maybe someone can post it for me). If I even go a little further, I would say that there is a possibility that Katherine and Joe adopted this person legally so he could indeed change his name to Jackson. That way it would not be MJ's biological brother, but it would be his brother, which makes it not a lie when Katherine says her son died, or the siblings saying their brother died. Maybe far fetched but to me in this hoax really nothing is far fetched. Trump said to Larry King that there were two Michaels and that he knew them both (again I can't search for the video, but it's on YouTube somewhere). On the AR we see a person that is very ill, no pepsi burn, lots of plastic surgery, but not the chin. It's just not Michael Jackson, but maybe it is, if you get what I am saying.Mike made his lip thinner with make-up because the double had thinner lips. Mike added a cleft because the double had a longer chin and a cleft, the double had his nose done because Mike had a smaller nose, the double had his ears done to get them closer to his head, and the double had implants in the wrist to match Mike's 'bumps'. No implants were found according to the AR, but there were scars on both wrists. Maybe they were removed in the hospital because he had to go through the MRI or something like that.Because I still think the name 'Michael Joseph Jackson' is not real in order to make it easier in this hoax to publish 'fake' documents, I think the AR and DC are still fake. I do think the info in the AR might be real. That would mean the double had vitiligo. When I talked about this before, people asked me how it was possible to find someone that looks so much like you, who also has vitiligo? I don't know, but we know they have found lots and lots of cream in the house, cream that MJ didn't want anyone to know of according to Murray. There is bleaching cream that is only temporary, but you have to keep smearing to keep the light skin. So maybe one of them simply was still black, but who? If all the info in the AR is accurate, that would mean the double had vitiligo and Mike didn't. The covers of Dangerous and Michael make my head spin. Dangerous shows Michael hiding behind a mask. As Trump said, there were 2 MJ's from that time on. You see on Dangerous that he is showing a circus, hiding behind the mask. We see a factory and everything seems surreal. The album cover of Michael reminds me a lot of the Dangerous cover. Yet here we see him without a mask, with his 'King of Pop' era left behind him, showing the real deal in front. On his right side we see everything before '88, on his left side we see everything after '88. One side is dark (before '88), one side is light (after '88). Black...White. Michael in front is black. Just made me think he never had vitiligo, but the double had. Could explain all the illnesses too. Two people have more illnesses than one. If the double broke a leg, Mike had to have his leg plastered. And sometimes you get (like in the movies) a continuation error. I remember something during the Dangerous era with a broken leg or something like that that suddenly wasn't broken anymore, but I really can't recall the exact story.So back to the doubles but to me it still seems the most logical explanation for this mess. It would explain too much to be ignored. If MJ's name is Michael Joe Jackson, like we see on real legal papers, I think the double's name is Mike Joseph Jackson. I think Michael Joseph Jackson is a fake name, also the birth date 8/29/1958. I still haven't found ANY reference to this birth date or middle name before '88. I think Moonwalk was written to make people think Michael Jackson was born on 8/29/1958, had Joseph as a middle name and was 5'10". If you mix up Mike Joseph Jackson and Michael Joe, you get Michael Joseph. If you take the average of the heights (5'9" on the AR, 5'11" on the mug shot) you get 5'10". The birth date is 8/29/1958 because the hoax and date of death was planned way back then. This birth date would make that the Pepsi burn would be exaclty in the middle of his life. I don't think either of them was born on that date. I think the double being terminally ill right before the start of this hoax was just a coincidence.I agree with SD that a real corpse would reduce the quantity of the people involved, but I do not think the prelim is completely real. I think the coroner knows. He did have a dead body, he made the AR although I think the one that was published was altered for the hoax. The coroner did state right after the autopsy that it was not foul play. He must have seen what this person suffered from. There was a rumor that there were two ambulances leaving Carolwood and there were reports of two hospitals; UCLA and Cedar's. What if the masses were distracted with a dummy in the ambulance that left the main gate? Maybe that is why it took so long to get the ambulance out, to make sure the paps would stay there not to miss anything. That way the other ambulance had time to go through the other gate and leave to Cedar's. UCLA might have been a distraction. If that is the case, some bobos from UCLA must know about the hoax, other doctors and staff must have been asked to keep it quiet that MJ never arrived there, that they brought in a dummy for distraction of the media. According to TMZ on June 25, Katherine was on her way to the hospital at 1:30 PM, yet she arrives at UCLA 2 whole hours later. This makes me think the person died in the hospital (Cedar's) and the Jacksons were by his side when it happened, or at least Katherine. If there is any emotion we see, it could be because they are really there and have to ACT that there is none, to make people open their eyes to the hoax happening as well. And maybe some of them didn't really even knew him that well. Glasses to hide tears AND to hide the lack of tears? It could also explain Randy's anger, maybe he didn't think using the body for the hoax was ethical. But because he loves his brother, he carries on with the hoax. It can also explain why Karen Faye is so sure Mike was sick and frail and not able to do the shows, while others said he was perfectly fine. I think this prelim is fake. The media and fans attending are thinking that they are attending a real prelim, because Murray is there, the judge is there, the witnesses are there etc. That doesn't mean it's real. There is no need for a real investigation, trial and such, because the deceased person was terminally ill. This is not to get back at the court, because Mike was acquitted. The media fucked him, and he fucks them back, big time. He is letting them attend a prelim, and maybe even a trial later on, of a man who never hurt a soul. If the media would do their journalistic jobs, they would notice that there is absolutely no proof that Murray killed MJ, but no one is questioning, they are all reporting the garbage even though it is clear that this is all too ridiculous to be true. The media will be exposed, not the justice system. People in that courtroom and the witnesses, with the exception of the media and the few that also are allowed inside, know about it. Those are the ones that know, have signed the confidentiality agreement and play a role. It's fake, but looks real. A combination of Law and Order and Punk'd. Sounds complicated and maybe it is all much simpeler, but this is what I have been thinking for a long long time.
If someone was on life support it would not be hard to get the death date to line up with the numerology of the hoax. It would be a matter of turning off the machine. Just a thought.
I'm thinking it's very possible that a dead body was in fact used that day. "Michael" was ID'd with his driver's license according to the AR and for all we know, that piece of ID may have been a forgery. Although I am certainly not ruling out no body, or a dummy (which was obviously used for the ambulance pic).I think it makes sense that the fewer people in on it (initially), the better for Michael. More people means more uncontrollable factors. I do think that as time has passed since June 25th, more people may have been brought into the loop but I honestly think that no one knows everything, apart from Michael. As for the prelim, I think it's "partially" real, in that it could very well be an actual prelim but there are key players involved who are aware of the hoax, at least to some degree. It's possible that some of the witness testimony is true, from what they know, but everybody is contradicting each other so I'm really hoping that the general public is at least paying some attention and realize that something doesn't add up. This case will definitely go to trial and that's how Michael wants it, IMO. This hoax needs to be taken to the furthest point in order for Michael to prove his point.
Well it's just theories about what happened on that day and how it happened. And still the dead body in the room makes sense to me. Not everyone can be in on the hoax. Paramedics could be telling the truth about how they couldn't recognize MJ or how he looked like an Asian guy. It is still no hard to find a body who died a couple of hours earlier. Maybe your theory is right but still mine makes perfect sense to me. This is fiction in reality and reality in fiction and some of the things we see are the reality in fiction part of the hoax. Not everything we hear is made up. It is important to make the difference btw the two.
