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December 28, 2010, 09:52:35 AM
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Michael Jackson - Murray's Lawyers Win Extra Hearing
22 December 2010 12:16

Lawyers representing MICHAEL JACKSON's doctor CONRAD MURRAY have won an extra court hearing to ask for medical items found in the late star's bedroom to undergo vigorous testing as they battle to clear the physician's name.

The medic has pleaded not guilty to a charge of involuntary manslaughter following the singer's tragic death last year (09) and he is expected to go on trial in 2011.

A coroner ruled Jackson died of cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of anaesthetic Propofol, and Murray's lawyers want two syringes and an IV bag, found at the star's Californian home, to be tested to determine the amount of drugs they contained.

Defence attorney, J. Michael Flanagan, argued in legal papers filed in a California court last Friday (17Dec10), "An essential fact in this case is not only how much Propofol was in Michael Jackson's body but how it was put into his body."

A judge has now granted the request for an extra hearing to decide whether the items should be sent back to the laboratory, according to the Associated Press.

Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor will hear the arguments on 29 December (10), just days before Murray is due in court for a preliminary hearing on 4 January (11) to determine whether he will stand trial.

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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 10:36:44 AM
I embedded the redirect incorrectly.  Could an admin or mod please redo my post?  Thanks for the reminder about this hearing, TS.  
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Michael Jackson - Murray's Lawyers Win Extra Hearing
22 December 2010 12:16

Lawyers representing MICHAEL JACKSON's doctor CONRAD MURRAY have won an extra court hearing to ask for medical items found in the late star's bedroom to undergo vigorous testing as they battle to clear the physician's name.

The medic has pleaded not guilty to a charge of involuntary manslaughter following the singer's tragic death last year (09) and he is expected to go on trial in 2011.

A coroner ruled Jackson died of cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of anaesthetic Propofol, and Murray's lawyers want two syringes and an IV bag, found at the star's Californian home, to be tested to determine the amount of drugs they contained.

Defence attorney, J. Michael Flanagan, argued in legal papers filed in a California court last Friday (17Dec10), "An essential fact in this case is not only how much Propofol was in Michael Jackson's body but how it was put into his body."

A judge has now granted the request for an extra hearing to decide whether the items should be sent back to the laboratory, according to the Associated Press.

Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor will hear the arguments on 29 December (10), just days before Murray is due in court for a preliminary hearing on 4 January (11) to determine whether he will stand trial.


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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 11:24:15 AM
So, there's a hearing on the 29th. What happened to the video tapes and that witness bodyguard Alavarez? They are all lost.

Defence attorney, J. Michael Flanagan, argued in legal papers filed in a California court last Friday (17Dec10), "An essential fact in this case is not only how much Propofol was in Michael Jackson's body but how it was put into his body."

How the proforol was put into his body? He DRANK it of course! Remember how proforol was found in his stomach according to the autopsy! :lol:
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
I posted it in the other thread on this subject but...

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A coroner ruled Jackson died of cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of anaesthetic Propofol, and Murray's lawyers want two syringes and an IV bag, found at the star's Californian home, to be tested to determine the amount of drugs they contained.

That's impossible so says the laws of physics, chemistry, and the universe.
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Same could be said for a lot of what the media reported before and after 25/6/09.
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"
I embedded the redirect incorrectly.  Could an admin or mod please redo my post?
Consider it done.
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 01:18:25 PM
@Mo:  Gracias!

This is curious: "An essential fact in this case is not only how much Propofol was in Michael Jackson's body but how it was put into his body."

As PureLove points out, supposedly, they found propofol in MJ's stomach according to the autopsy.  If they can determine this, it would mean propofol was planted. Or, I suppose they have evidence that it was inhaled.  You know, it happened through osmosis.  :lol:

But, as Bec points out, this is all against the laws of physics and chemistry.  Propofol disappears very rapidly I thought we were told...

All this says to me is, "the best [of the hoax] is yet to come."

Bec: I'm glad I can buckle my seatbelt and not my strait jacket  :lol:
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 01:42:24 PM
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"An essential fact in this case is not only how much Propofol was in Michael Jackson's body but how it was put into his body."

Of course. Propofol is injected and metabolized in the liver.
To find propofol in the stomach would mean that he drinked it.

Also, geting now, this late, a test of the tubes would not be very good. Surely the tubes has grown bacteria since hour 8. Propofol is mixed with water, egg lecithin and Soja oil among others. Really a nest for little bacteria to grow up happily.

I can only imagine that stomach scenario if MJ drinked the "milk" by accident.

Propofol is injected, that´s how it was "put" in his body.
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Michael pls come back


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Grace

Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 01:51:42 PM
Propofol injections do hurt - and btw who put out the hear-say that Michael was needle-phobic?
The claimed amount sets a dog to sleep but not more. Our veterinary confirmed this.
So we can calmly relax and rethink the dog theory again.  ;)
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 02:09:32 PM
A dog?, June 25! a dog died!, poor Murray.
 Murray is a veterinary? :lol:
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 02:21:07 PM
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A dog?, June 25! a dog died!, poor Murray.
 Murray is a veterinary? :lol:

A dog or another animal and not only for euthanasia, also for Cesáreas ( C incisions?) in humans and animals propofol has been used, or for other procedures were one must go under anesthesia.

Checking needles now? come on!

What about "finding out how was put in the body"?
This is very dissapointing.
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Michael pls come back


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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 02:28:22 PM
Paula,
a dog may be set to sleep but may not die of this amount of "prop of fool" ...

The dog theory may be read in the blog (Nov 2009)
(The Dogs, The Meds, The Mess & The Math)
and then again the subject was discussed on several threads.

I don't know what profession Mr. Murray has but our veterinary confirmed voluntarily (not having been asked) what we previously had found out about the effects of the propofol amount in the web.

These "investigations" on vials, bags, needles, are ridiculous after this time and not only due to bacteria but for reasons of "natural deterioration". NO somewhat thinking head will even try to follow that debate. Maybe that is WHY the informers are stirring this pot and are stressing exactly that point and not another.
To make the case AS SUCH look ridiculous and shake off observers and witnesses.
Who will want to do that?
Hmm.
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Create your day. Create the most astounding year of your life. Be the change you want to see in the world! L.O.V.E.
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"I am tired, I am really tired of manipulation." Michael Jackson, Harlem, New York, NY, July 6, 2002
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******* Let's tear the walls in the brains of this world down.*******

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Sarahli

Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 03:48:54 PM
We can say that this really is a circus. I bet that the strategy is still to say that Michael "killed himself".
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Re: TIAI 12/28
December 28, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Grace I read the theory of the dog, I was joking :oops:  :)
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