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Offline Harleyblonde

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  • on: December 17, 2009, 06:18:42 PM
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@BCorn-if you claim to have an email from a "close friend" of Michael and are not willing to give proof or CANNOT state who it is then please-and I think I can vouch for many, we do not wish to know. Anyone of us could state stuff like that-indeed some have and didn't last long. With all due respect we are sick of these cryptic posts that do not give any proof or any reason for us to belive of their authenticity.
   As for Michael coming back-I am not one of the ones who has been waiting, I think he is alive but I have never thought and cannot think he will return. I have said my reasons in other threads. He cannot return.

Thank you Harley. I never mentioned that his friend told me the truth or I believed in that person or anything else. I don't get why people jump on each other without a reason. All I wanted to do is to learn what you think about his come back. Respect each other people and do NOT jump before you understand what that person is trying to say.
Well all I can say to this is I am not the only one to suggest this post of yours was very misleading, I answer to what I read and if you have not written in a clear, precise and not misleading way then please do not blame me of being disrespectful. I always post without insults and certainly without innuendo's and claims which obviously the wording of your post would suggest you are perhaps even if intended or not are guilty of. Please do not insult my intelligence, integrity or manners.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 06:21:21 PM
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Maybe he's not comin back in the way we think he will...

Maybe he stays in the background doin some movies like he wanted to do..


Otherwise, sometimes I think he will come out of nowhere to see the dumb faces of the journalists when he enters the stage....but I think it's not his style..


I'm still not sure

It would be so great to see the haters' faces  :D

It would be awesome to see their faces.. Oh i wish i could take a picture of all these faces :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Also the un believers' faces  :lol: I love all MJ fans but some of them make me say arrrghhhhhh lol You show them everything but still they don't even believe their own eyes. I just want to say "Yeah I knew it. Didn't I tell you?" to them when he comes back so so much :D
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Offline LiberianGirl

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  • on: December 17, 2009, 06:25:57 PM
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@BCorn-if you claim to have an email from a "close friend" of Michael and are not willing to give proof or CANNOT state who it is then please-and I think I can vouch for many, we do not wish to know. Anyone of us could state stuff like that-indeed some have and didn't last long. With all due respect we are sick of these cryptic posts that do not give any proof or any reason for us to belive of their authenticity.
   As for Michael coming back-I am not one of the ones who has been waiting, I think he is alive but I have never thought and cannot think he will return. I have said my reasons in other threads. He cannot return.

Thank you Harley. I never mentioned that his friend told me the truth or I believed in that person or anything else. I don't get why people jump on each other without a reason. All I wanted to do is to learn what you think about his come back. Respect each other people and do NOT jump before you understand what that person is trying to say.
Well all I can say to this is I am not the only one to suggest this post of yours was very misleading, I answer to what I read and if you have not written in a clear, precise and not misleading way then please do not blame me of being disrespectful. I always post without insults and certainly without innuendo's and claims which obviously the wording of your post would suggest you are perhaps even if intended or not are guilty of. Please do not insult my intelligence, integrity or manners.

Okkayyy everyone is getting weird today. Harley I thanked you there. So why are you getting upset and think that I wrote that intelligence thing to you? Why did you take it personal? Seriously I'm sorry but I really don't get why people are trying to jump on each other today. I didn't mention you there. Pls don't do this. No reason to get it wrong and be upset.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 06:50:22 PM
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The only way Michael can come back could be if he's in the witness protection program. That would explain how the coroner and the police involved into this. What do you guys think about it?


I HAVE SAID THE SAME IN ANOTHER THREAD..IT MAKES ALOT OF SENSE. THEY HAVE THE POWER TO FALSIFY ALL THAT.
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Offline LiberianGirl

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  • on: December 17, 2009, 06:54:29 PM
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The only way Michael can come back could be if he's in the witness protection program. That would explain how the coroner and the police involved into this. What do you guys think about it?


I HAVE SAID THE SAME IN ANOTHER THREAD..IT MAKES ALOT OF SENSE. THEY HAVE THE POWER TO FALSIFY ALL THAT.

ok so let's think about this theory. If he's in the witness protection program, someone or something has threatened his life which scares me. or he will use the program just as a cover. I mean there's been nothing threatened his life but that's the only way for him to show everything legal and come back.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
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The only way Michael can come back could be if he's in the witness protection program. That would explain how the coroner and the police involved into this. What do you guys think about it?


I HAVE SAID THE SAME IN ANOTHER THREAD..IT MAKES ALOT OF SENSE. THEY HAVE THE POWER TO FALSIFY ALL THAT.

ok so let's think about this theory. If he's in the witness protection program, someone or something has threatened his life which scares me. or he will use the program just as a cover. I mean there's been nothing threatened his life but that's the only way for him to show everything legal and come back.

Whatever has happened, I've always believed Michael hoaxed his death for serious reasons. Whether he went into hiding via witness protection is something I've contemplated too. That would be the most logical and legal way for him to get around faking his death without legal ramifications and probably more acceptance via a return to the world at large. I don't know if that's where he is gone. I don't know if he will comeback either. If it's for a movie like others have suggested, then I guess a comeback will occur.

Whether a comeback will happen or not will depend on the circumstances and reason for this hoax and  whether Michael enjoys the fame or the freedom the most.  Hard one to answer. I hope for now he is just enjoying the freedom away from the glare of cameras in his face and people following him around 24/7.
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Offline LiberianGirl

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  • on: December 17, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
People who gets into the program, gets a new ID, name and a location as far as I know. So Michael can have a brand new name and that makes him to travel easily hmmm And the only way to get out of the program is, the situation that threatens you needs to stop or get caught. Is there someone who knows more about the witness protection program?
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
Why the witness protection? As far as I know it's illegal to fake a death  :?:
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 07:23:39 PM
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Why the witness protection? As far as I know it's illegal to fake a death  :?:

it IS illegal and the only way to make it legal is the witness protection program. That's the reason why I thought that he could be in that program. it's my opinion only :)
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Offline babydoll

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  • on: December 17, 2009, 10:38:15 PM
Witness protection/relocation is not just for people who have been threatened its also for people who are involved in a dangerous situation that will require a trial and the witness protection pretty much holds you over untill the trial is over or as long as you need protection. I dont know if it would work differently with celebrities since theyre known world wide, but I would doubt it.        We will just have to wait it all out!
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 10:44:35 PM
It's obvious from BCorn email that Michael's "close friend" is not in on the hoax.  Not all his friends are, just certain special ones.  I guess Michael's close friend just ain't that special.

Now, with regards to whether or not we will ever see MJ again....I dunno.  I hope and pray that we do and that one day we learn the truth behind all this.  In terms of, is faking a death illegal, well, Paul McCartney faked his death once and didn't get arrested for it.  I think it is only illegal if you do it for things like getting insurance money.  Did Michael's family cash in on any insurance policies?  From what I know so far, I think they are only divying up $$ that is in his estate, not any insurance policies.  And anyway, with the amount of money MJ has to begin with (and I believe had before his "death"), he has the means and the kahonas to fake his death, return one day, and get away with it.  The only ones who I think would want to see the King jailed is the media, for making them look like the bunch of fools that they are....IMHO.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 10:45:20 PM
It's obvious from BCorn email that Michael's "close friend" is not in on the hoax.  Not all his friends are, just certain special ones.  I guess Michael's close friend just ain't that special.

Now, with regards to whether or not we will ever see MJ again....I dunno.  I hope and pray that we do and that one day we learn the truth behind all this.  In terms of, is faking a death illegal, well, Paul McCartney faked his death once and didn't get arrested for it.  I think it is only illegal if you do it for things like getting insurance money.  Did Michael's family cash in on any insurance policies?  From what I know so far, I think they are only divying up $$ that is in his estate, not any insurance policies.  And anyway, with the amount of money MJ has to begin with (and I believe had before his "death"), he has the means and the kahonas to fake his death, return one day, and get away with it.  The only ones who I think would want to see the King jailed is the media, for making them look like the bunch of fools that they are....IMHO.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 10:47:05 PM
Also, California is one of the few states that have their own program, covering crimes not covered by the federal branch.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 10:48:34 PM
Sorry for the double post.  It told me to review it since more replies occurred.  So, I did and posted and now there are two.  Seeing doubles.
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 11:04:14 PM
I'm torn, I kinda think maybe he wont come back cause if he managed to pull this off once why ruin it? I'tl never work twice! :lol:  Someone here said he wasn't in the spotlight anymore but he was still dealing with law suits left and right and because he wasn't in the spotlight much anymore perhaps he didn't think people would dig too much... maybe he was really depressed and clearly not thinking straight on this. :roll:

But most of the time I think nahh!! He's up to something some things are simple in life. First of all, why would he have said in TII "It's an adventure, a great adventure" "I want to take them places they've never been before, show them things they've never seen before" could those statements really have been about Michael having a come back tour? Sounds kinda duh to me... you know Michael still seemed like a down to earth person for stuff like that.

 :roll: But really I'm uncertain... when you are emotionnaly involved in something it is hard to see clearly so when I find things are getting too complicated or contradictory to keep up with I always remind myself to come back to basics. You know the more simple things in life, HUMAN NATURE! :geek:

If you're reading this Michael    I LOVE YOU!!! I TRULY DO. ;)
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 11:05:23 PM
It's all for love right!?!
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 11:11:00 PM
Sorry, this is kinda off topic but does someone here know who BCorn is? Does this BCorn really have contact with a close friend of Michael's and if yes how does anyone know if that friend in question is being truthfull?

I was just wondering... dont know if anyone else was but there's nothing like cold hard facts :D
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 11:36:32 PM
I think he's up to something too.There's so many clues,odd things,like he wants us to know he's alive.Many things he said in the TII movie...L.O.V.E..great adventure...the speech he says at the end to the dancers but looking in the camera like his talking to us...all those things make me hope for a comeback,in what way,that I don't know!If he would want just to desapear,and live in the shadow for the rest of his life,I think,we would not be talking about a hoax,we would believe that he's dead.To many screw-ups on purpuse...Maybe it's wishfull thinking for me but I'm keeping the faith ;)
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  • on: December 17, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
I was watching Moonwalker last night and after watching it again I realized Michael has an ongoing theme with a lot of his videos/short movies. Transformation seems to be the underlying theme.

I.E.:
Moonwalker-transformation into a car, larger than life TRANSFORMER robot, spaceship
Thriller-werewolf, zombie
Ghost-skeleton, giant monster
At the end of these movies he's also resurrected.

He's also known for the disguises and being someone else other than the King of Pop.
So IMO, I think he will return, but not as the King. Maybe he's on a mission to transform his identity, possibly into a director. Or maybe the message of transformation is trying to tell us to change something about ourselves into something positive so we can change the world. I'm not sure and I don't want to ramble on, so we'll just have to wait and see.  :)

L.O.V.E.!!!
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  • on: December 18, 2009, 12:07:54 AM
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Which one of the hoaxers came back? Elvis (if he really did it), Andy and the rest? Nope, none of them came back. So why would Michael come back? All of his family and friends try to make us believe that he's really dead. Why do they so much insist that he's dead if he will come back in any time? How could Michael make everything legal if he comes back? He had fake death reports and LAPD, coroner etc involved in this. So how could he make it legal?

I have so many thoughts spinning in my head. I will write more later as more as I remember. Pls write and share your thoughts too because I do wonder what you guys think about this. Thank you all for reading and sharing  :)


Well I don't believe Elvis hoaxed his death. Sadly I think he really did pass. But Elvis was not in the spotlight since the age of 5 like Michael was. Elvis' life consisted of other things before fame and stardom. Michael became a star so young that thats all he knew. Which is why the argument that Michael would come back because he wouldn't know what to do with such a boring quiet life out of the spotlight is feasble.

And if Michael hoaxed it and the whole thing with his middle name is a mixup on purpose than it sounds like he would want to come back "in his own time" which is why he allowed the name Joseph to be used instead of Joe because Joe is his real name. So since many of the docs will be invalid with the name Joseph Michael has a way to come back

I don't know I'm still very confused on the middle name thing.
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  • on: December 18, 2009, 12:24:45 AM
I have to admit. I too, am thinking along the lines of how we all need closure! This has been one hell of a ride since June 25th? Closure. We all need to know exactly what happened even if MJ returns or not. The one thing that I keep thinking as far as him not returning is why? Why go through all of these things to come back? MJ has been in the spotlight all of his life right? I know some are saying the adoration of the fans. But he has had and enjoyed that for many years. If he has hoaxed , then where could he be. I mean this is MJ we are talking about. Recognizable just about anywhere! His kids. MJ would not do the hoax to his children. Legalwise. Even though some are saying his legal issues are few, Would MJ risk it though? After the trials and other mishaps?  How long can you hide when you are one of the most famous people on the planet? Those things I stated are why I feel not. THen, on the other hand, well nobody has even saw a body! Hospital officials speaking has not happened! Clashes of everyone's stories! NO body! James Brown, Elvis, the world saw a body! But MJ not. The inconsistencies are what lead us to believe in the fact that he hoaxed but does it mean he wanted to come out? Maybe he left all of these clues for the true MJ followers to say" Hey I am still here, these are clues to let us know I (MJ) is still here but do not plan on making a comeback. U know? To put us fans at ease. Of course MJ knows the world and media will think of him as deceased. But this (the clues) were left for true MJ fans to grieve his absence but sorta have peace in knowing Yep he is still alive somewhere! We grieve his absence, but rejoice in the fact that he is still here? U follow me? Either way we need closure. The faMILY'S BEHAVIOR IS OFF! idk WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE!!. Witness protection I, mean Marlon does wear that FBI hat. MY biggest thing with this hoax is if we all be realistic where in the heck could MJ hide for sooo long without being caught or recognized. THe media has followed him around for years, bookstores, resteraunts, malls, u know?: Im just saying. :cry:
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  • on: December 18, 2009, 12:32:26 AM
If I were MJ I would not come back, I would enjoy the peace and quiet with my children. But I would love to have a chance to see him again, if he did come back I doubt it would be the way we know him to look like in the past. But who knows the legal stuff is what always gets me, and don't think he would put his kids through more court bs, and possiable jail time ect, but Im not a high paid lawer and don't know all the loop holes out there because there are ALWAYS loop holes in everything! ;)
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  • on: December 18, 2009, 12:49:55 AM
I still think that Mj could walk around as himself or in disguise and many would not be the wiser.

The more and more the news reports him to be gone, Michael is a little free-er to walk around in disguise or possibly even himself and only few would know it was him. Many others who would witness him would doubt themselves.
JMO

p.s. i remember when I was younger I was so sure i saw Ben Stein at a shopping I had gone to but no one believed me when I told them simply becuase they thought he wouldnt be here in this town.

Can you imagine a guy who is supposed to be gone being seen somewhere many people would recognize him but then doubt themselves.
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  • on: December 18, 2009, 08:24:35 AM
i think he will come back if he wasnt he wouldnt leave clues for fans that would be giving false hope for no reason. Didnt we establish that the coroner is an actor and so is murray why would a coroner have twitter and murray was in a film! Investigator resigned remember and death certificate not signed so fake no way is that death valid just wouldnt happen in reality! I always thought hed comeback hes the biggest star in the world hes beaten everyone when he comes back the love from the fans will be incredible hell be back just like the old days maybe at neverland since the brothers spoke about it on larry king and ther were enthusiastic werent they? jermaine did a programme on it and in threatenend which was in the movie the man says never neverland thats the place :P  :o  8-)  :lol:  :D  :)  ;)
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  • on: December 18, 2009, 08:33:13 AM
Im with both of the two theories. This is why Im split. Im 50%/50%. I cant decide... Its really confusing.
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