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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 03:32:38 AM
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I don't have 100% proof that any of you are alive.

That said I'm pretty convinced that you are.

And I'm 100% convinced that Michael is as well. In fact I'm more sure that he's alive then sure that half of you are what you pretend to be.

So really, to the nay-sayers. What's the proof that is required? For the media to report it? That's not proof. Does he need to do a press conference? That's not proof either, we aren't even sure that was MJ at the last press conference he did when he was supposed to be alive. What if he signs today's paper. That's not proof, it's prob a fake siggy. How about if his family says so. Well that's not proof, they aren't to be trusted either. What if his producer says so? Not proof. What if he makes a statement on YouTube. Not proof, Murray may have been enhanced or someone else in disguise. Perhaps CGI animation.

So what is proof? When he comes back, how in the hell will we know?

I don't know. I mean, I don't think he'll "silently" bam, that's pretty silly. I think when he comes back EVERYONE will know, just like with his death. I think he will enter with a BANG (or BAM I should say ;)) Like not privately either, I think he will pop out at an event everyone will be watching... like the ball drop on New Years Eve, for example. But the thing is, how will we know it's him & not an impersonator? The family could 'confirm' it I guess. :?

Yeah and we're going to believe them? They also said he's dead, and that's not his voice on Michael, and they were in NY, I mean Orlando.

I think we have a conundrum. I literally cannot brain storm a venue in which Michael can prove, instantly, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it's really him and he's really back. People will think he's an impersonator. We will think he's a double.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 03:34:53 AM
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I don't have 100% proof that any of you are alive.

That said I'm pretty convinced that you are.

And I'm 100% convinced that Michael is as well. In fact I'm more sure that he's alive then sure that half of you are what you pretend to be.

So really, to the nay-sayers. What's the proof that is required? For the media to report it? That's not proof. Does he need to do a press conference? That's not proof either, we aren't even sure that was MJ at the last press conference he did when he was supposed to be alive. What if he signs today's paper. That's not proof, it's prob a fake siggy. How about if his family says so. Well that's not proof, they aren't to be trusted either. What if his producer says so? Not proof. What if he makes a statement on YouTube. Not proof, Murray may have been enhanced or someone else in disguise. Perhaps CGI animation.

So what is proof? When he comes back, how in the hell will we know?

I don't know. I mean, I don't think he'll "silently" bam, that's pretty silly. I think when he comes back EVERYONE will know, just like with his death. I think he will enter with a BANG (or BAM I should say ;)) Like not privately either, I think he will pop out at an event everyone will be watching... like the ball drop on New Years Eve, for example. But the thing is, how will we know it's him & not an impersonator? The family could 'confirm' it I guess. :?

Yeah and we're going to believe them? They also said he's dead, and that's not his voice on Michael, and they were in NY, I mean Orlando.

I think we have a conundrum. I literally cannot brain storm a venue in which Michael can prove, instantly, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it's really him and he's really back. People will think he's an impersonator. We will think he's a double.

Well, I don't know about the family. I was also thinking that someone could be having a master plan to make a fake Michael Jackson, like a double, and pretend it's the real Michael and force the family to say it's him, maybe with a threat or something against them. :?
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 03:54:49 AM
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I'm in the 100% convinced camp, I have no doubts at this time based on all the evidence of him planning this out! Some might be tempted to say I'm convinced he faked his death and pulled off a hoax, but what if something happened to him after that and he really died?!? I say NO WAY, because I believe GOD is behind this and has a BIG purpose for all of this and HE won't let anything like that happen to MJ!!! Looking forward to 2011, will it be the BAM year??

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I wonder: is it easier for those who want a different person (LMP or Elvis/Jesse..Joe Esposito) to be TS than to just except the possibility that TS is in fact Michael?

Do you honestly think he would TruSt anyone else other than himself to make sure this very IMPORTANT hoax goes as planned? The updates are planned, the redirects are planned, etc. this is something that is so important that the creator and master of this hoax would be the only one to have his hands on it.
I would be completely happy if he were Michael. I waver around 50% chance it's him. And in hindsight I'd see thousands of hints and clues in things he wrote.  It's almost like I don't dare to hope. Yes there's a computer screen between us so we are guessing who he/she is--no voice, no handwriting, no visuals. On TS I may not be sure, but I am 100% convinced MJ's alive.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 10:07:34 AM
To the point.
What is the absolute proof that MJ is alive? If someone has that absolute proof, please, give me.

His death makes no sense, the stories coming up after his death makes no sense either, but the only proof I have up to now that is absolute is that I have not seen a living Michael Jackson yet, like any of you.

Some empirical approach must be used here pls.

The deduction that MJ is alive goes within faith and analyzing how the events presented by the media has been shown to us up to today but no confirmation, declaration or so called proof has been shown to us by the subject of debate, Michael Jackson himself.

We can go on understanding the events since his death as a joke but untill Michael "bams" any of the assumptions about him being alive will stay just as theories and speculations.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
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I don't have 100% proof that any of you are alive.

That said I'm pretty convinced that you are.

And I'm 100% convinced that Michael is as well. In fact I'm more sure that he's alive then sure that half of you are what you pretend to be.

So really, to the nay-sayers. What's the proof that is required? For the media to report it? That's not proof. Does he need to do a press conference? That's not proof either, we aren't even sure that was MJ at the last press conference he did when he was supposed to be alive. What if he signs today's paper. That's not proof, it's prob a fake siggy. How about if his family says so. Well that's not proof, they aren't to be trusted either. What if his producer says so? Not proof. What if he makes a statement on YouTube. Not proof, Murray may have been enhanced or someone else in disguise. Perhaps CGI animation.

So what is proof? When he comes back, how in the hell will we know?

I don't know. I mean, I don't think he'll "silently" bam, that's pretty silly. I think when he comes back EVERYONE will know, just like with his death. I think he will enter with a BANG (or BAM I should say ;)) Like not privately either, I think he will pop out at an event everyone will be watching... like the ball drop on New Years Eve, for example. But the thing is, how will we know it's him & not an impersonator? The family could 'confirm' it I guess. :?

Yeah and we're going to believe them? They also said he's dead, and that's not his voice on Michael, and they were in NY, I mean Orlando.

I think we have a conundrum. I literally cannot brain storm a venue in which Michael can prove, instantly, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it's really him and he's really back. People will think he's an impersonator. We will think he's a double.
I offer the following as explanations to your questions and doubts.
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"This Is It … The Final Curtain Call"

The "final curtain call" is a very interesting phrase, which was used during the London press conference for the O2 "This Is It" performances (note: even if it was a double, MJ himself was still the author of the message given).
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Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity. But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.
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But again, if people would take the Elvis connection seriously: they would understand a lot more
http://lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page15
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I do want to emphasize very strongly the importance of the mentions of numerology in Jesse's introduction to his book. Jesse wanted the readers to see that he was handing them the information and the tool which they would need to decipher that date 8-16-1977 and recognize that only Elvis himself would have understood and known the many, many significant numbers derived from that "Perfect Date". This was his way of proving to each reader that he really is Elvis. The numbers don't lie.

You will see as you read on that 8-16-1977 was indeed "THE PERFECT DAY". Elvis said many times that he could feel God directing his life...and so he knew that this date was given to him by God as a sign.
I think if people took what TS says more seriously when he says you would understand alot more by understanding the Elvis "death" parallels (doubts would disappear). If you apply how Elvis/Jesse has told us who he is through his book, and clues he says to Linda (things to look out for in his movies and songs), telling her things before they came out publically; you will begin to see that you will have your answer to know for sure when the time comes when Michael reveals himself (visually that is).

This is my belief when speaking on trusting TS:

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he is "the one" who has been telling us his secrets this whole time in clues.

And he is "the one" who has hinted to us about where the "inside info" came from when he ref. Numerology and directed to Elvis' friend's website. Her page on his book specifically stated that Elvis would be the "ONLY" one to have the answers about the numerology clues and he would be the "ONLY" one to use that as his explanation (evidence) on his TRUE identity.
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Again look at Elvis' friends website especially NOW it has been up dated with more info on his clues to numerology and identity and his way of showing fans who he is.
TRUE identity.

If Michael learned his "death" plan from Elvis and the parallels are there. Look to Elvis' friends website and read page 33. New clues for us.
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I can’t help but to keep thinking about all the similarities between Elvis and MJ.
So I search Linda’s website for relevant info and these always stand out to me.

I read them and just insert Michael’s name where Jesse/Elvis name is and it fits to find clues.

http://www.lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page15
I do want to emphasize very strongly the importance of the mentions of numerology in Jesse's introduction to his book. Jesse wanted the readers to see that he was handing them the information and the tool which they would need to decipher that date 8-16-1977 and recognize that only Elvis himself would have understood and known the many, many significant numbers derived from that "Perfect Date". This was his way of proving to each reader that he really is Elvis. The numbers don't lie.

You will see as you read on that 8-16-1977 was indeed "THE PERFECT DAY". Elvis said many times that he could feel God directing his life...and so he knew that this date was given to him by God as a sign.

http://lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page33
Elvis/Jesse has suggested that we watch all of his movies with the idea in mind to look for significant numbers within the movies...such as the gravestone in "Loving You". I have found the numbers which he referred to in Jail House Rock. As you can see, the numbers behind and to the left of him 1313 again add up to the "8".

I spoke with Elvis/Jesse this week and we discussed something which he had brought up in our last prior conversation. It is involving Numerology which is a topic to which he wants his fans to pay attention. I promise that anyone, who takes the time to look back over the dates and name numbers in Elvis' life, will readily recognize why he trusts in and uses Numerology in his life still to this day. It is very fascinating once one looks into it. Also, I feel that most people will be like me... begin seeing that numbers have had a very strong influence in their own life... even when they were totally unaware of it.

He told me in our prior conversation that the gravestone in the movie "Loving You" even correlated with the August 16, 1977 date. I recalled that somewhere, in his book, he had mentioned that we all should look at the numbers in all of his movies. Since I have been primarily using my copy of the rough draft for references in doing this web site, it wasn't until yesterday that I remembered that there are several letters from Jesse in the published book which do not exist in my rough draft. I received my copy of the rough draft on September 20, 2000. The letters which I did not look at for a very long time were written by Jesse to Dr. Hinton after the rough draft was sent to me, and so there were more pages added to the book after I received my rough draft copy. I recalled that somewhere in the book, Jesse made the comments about checking out the numbers in his movies. But, I had totally forgotten that he specifically mentioned the gravestone in "Loving You". So, when I did not find the comment about the movies in my copy of the draft, I went looking in the published book and found that it was in one of the letters which Jesse wrote to Dr. Hinton in October, 2000.

I will place below the copies of several more letters from Jesse. In these letters, you will see that he greatly stresses the importance of Numerology.
*I do have the handwritten copy of one of the typed letters below and I will insert it at the very end of this article.

He has asked me to be his spokesperson and his "voice". So, I always want to make sure that I am putting the emphasis on the points which he wants to get across. The two most important thoughts which he definitely wants the fans to know are:

(1) The very significant part which Numerology has played in all of his life... even before he knew anything about Numerology i.e. the numerical translation of his name, the date of his birth, the number of times that the number 18 occurred in his life such as his year of birth 1+9+3+5 = 18, and the month and day of his birth 1-8...on and on.

(2) His "dying" was not done as a hoax,..he had to do so in order to even continue to physically survive. His life was in such a state of misery and he knew the only way to save his life was to "die". So he "died" in order that he might truly live...as Jesse.

If everyone will just stop and digest this gift which Elvis has just given us, surely the bickering can stop and everyone can just be so happy for him...and happy for each other, we who love him so much.
 

http://www.lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page35
I have attempted to convince people that there are so many, many reasons why I KNOW that Jesse is Elvis. Much of what he shared with me was over the phone, so I cannot prove that. There are his letters to me, but again, I will not place any of his private letters on my web site with out his explicit permission. That would be a betrayal of his trust.

But, in thinking back, I have been able to locate an example of the fact that he knew things and told us things which were going to be taking place LONG before the events were public knowledge in any way.

I have located one of his letters to Dr. Hinton in which he stated a fact that I can document showing that he is aware of private information prior to anyone knowing about it.

I will insert below full copies of two pages of a letter which Jesse wrote on May 13, 1999. In this letter, he states that there is going to be something in the news about Graceland and there is nothing he can do about it. In October, 1999 (five months after Jesse told us this), the huge auction of very private memorabilia took place. I will insert several Internet articles which document the dates of the auction.

Obviously this was not something of which Elvis/Jesse approved. It never made sense for them to sell such a huge lot of his personal possessions.  

It was after this that Elvis/Jesse made the trip to Memphis and to Graceland to retrieve the pair of cuff links which he later sent to Dr. Hinton for Christmas in that same year...1999. Farther below you will see excerpts from the Christmas note which he sent to Dr. Hinton accompanying the cuff links in which he references not wanting them "to be sold in any auction".  

 
I only copied some things from her website. If you click the links and go to those pages and read everything there it will make alot of sense on how useful it will be to us to find clues from MJ.

Peace
I hope this helps.

Pretend to be bec? lol, I don't pretend to be anything or anyone other than who I really am, I have not hid my true identity.  ;)

Peace
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
Good points Imconvinced. That many Elvis parallels and I haven't even thought about that part, makes sense. Now wouldn't that be something huh? TS being the master himself, The Subject. I guess time will tell who he is, patience is a virtue... 8-)
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 10:10:53 PM
Thank you, Im_convincedmjalive.  Good post.   :)   My opinion:  It takes much more faith to believe he is dead, and any assumptions about him being dead are theories and speculations.  Gema said we have not seen a living Michael Jackson.  I ask have any of us seen a dead MJ?
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 11:23:33 PM
Imconvinced, it was a fairly tongue-in-cheek phrase, if you will.

Excellent break down of TS and Elvis connections in regards to my posts. I'll reread it a few times. Thanks for posting it.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 28, 2010, 11:43:47 PM
Great post Im_convincedmjalive...the connection between MJ and Elvis is pretty blatant.  The possibility of MJ being TS becomes more and more plausible each time I reread TS' posts.  And just like Elvis put out his 'death' in print, I believe we may be already reading a 'Moonwalker II' book...I wonder what page we're at right now?  ;)

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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 29, 2010, 01:24:02 AM
Great post Imconvinced!! ;)
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 29, 2010, 08:56:10 AM
good post
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 31, 2010, 03:12:44 PM
To whom  it may concern,

Your welcome for the post of information that is already said.  ;)

Here is another thought of mine.

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There would be no reason for an informer named TS posting for MJ needing to prove who is is after the BAM unless of course he is MJ.

It is this statement from TS that makes me think that way.

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Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity. But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 31, 2010, 06:46:45 PM
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To whom  it may concern,

Your welcome for the post of information that is already said.  ;)

Here is another thought of mine.

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There would be no reason for an informer named TS posting for MJ needing to prove who is is after the BAM unless of course he is MJ.

It is this statement from TS that makes me think that way.

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Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity. But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.
He at least points out with that statement that he is someone we all know, otherwise there is no point in saying that. TS knows a shit load about MJ and the hoax, so it's just logic that he is Mike himself. But he could also still be someone very close to him. Either way there is no point in knowing who he is for now. We should look at his information, and not who he is. All we need to know is that he is genuine and supportive. He already proved that.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 31, 2010, 07:47:08 PM
Well I'm 1500% sure that Michael is alive. To me, the numerology and the behaviour of the family proves that MJ is alive. But still I would want MJ to BAM, not only for my own relief but also for the message to be spreaded world wide. He needs to come back and lead his army. Will I believe it is MJ himself or not himself after he Bams? Definitely I'll be sure if it's him. There're very unique parts of him that makes him recognizable. I never believed the 02 guy was a double. It was MJ himself, in TII as well. I know where to look to be sure if that's Michael or not. So I would definitely recognize him if he BAMS. It was already proved to me that Michael is alive and if he BAMS, that would be an ultra double proof. :)
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 31, 2010, 07:55:21 PM
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To whom  it may concern,

Your welcome for the post of information that is already said.  ;)

Here is another thought of mine.

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There would be no reason for an informer named TS posting for MJ needing to prove who is is after the BAM unless of course he is MJ.

It is this statement from TS that makes me think that way.

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Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity. But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.
He at least points out with that statement that he is someone we all know, otherwise there is no point in saying that. TS knows a shit load about MJ and the hoax, so it's just logic that he is Mike himself. But he could also still be someone very close to him. Either way there is no point in knowing who he is for now. We should look at his information, and not who he is. All we need to know is that he is genuine and supportive. He already proved that.
This I agree on however that isn't my point when I said what I did. Right now we here on the forum are saying it doesn't matter who he is because we have read the info and weighed it and it adds up so we don't worry about TS' identity (for now).

 My point is if it is this hard to prove yourself trust worthy under an alias on a forum discussing your death: how hard will it be when the time comes to really take off the mask? How many people right now would believe him if he said who he was tomorrow?

I wonder...

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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 31, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
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To whom  it may concern,

Your welcome for the post of information that is already said.  ;)

Here is another thought of mine.

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There would be no reason for an informer named TS posting for MJ needing to prove who is is after the BAM unless of course he is MJ.

It is this statement from TS that makes me think that way.

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Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity. But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.
He at least points out with that statement that he is someone we all know, otherwise there is no point in saying that. TS knows a shit load about MJ and the hoax, so it's just logic that he is Mike himself. But he could also still be someone very close to him. Either way there is no point in knowing who he is for now. We should look at his information, and not who he is. All we need to know is that he is genuine and supportive. He already proved that.
This I agree on however that isn't my point when I said what I did. Right now we here on the forum are saying it doesn't matter who he is because we have read the info and weighed it and it adds up so we don't worry about TS' identity (for now).

 My point is if it is this hard to prove yourself trust worthy under an alias on a forum discussing your death: how hard will it be when the time comes to really take off the mask? How many people right now would believe him if he said who he was tomorrow?

I wonder...

Peace

At least one very persistent person...  ;)
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: December 31, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
Couple persistent people. 3 or 4. Maybe a few.
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Offline Le Papillon Bleu

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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 01, 2011, 07:20:48 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Well I'm 1500% sure that Michael is alive. To me, the numerology and the behaviour of the family proves that MJ is alive. But still I would want MJ to BAM, not only for my own relief but also for the message to be spreaded world wide. He needs to come back and lead his army. Will I believe it is MJ himself or not himself after he Bams? Definitely I'll be sure if it's him. There're very unique parts of him that makes him recognizable. I never believed the 02 guy was a double. It was MJ himself, in TII as well. I know where to look to be sure if that's Michael or not. So I would definitely recognize him if he BAMS. It was already proved to me that Michael is alive and if he BAMS, that would be an ultra double proof. :)
WOW you feel the way I feel!Plus all other clues :not only the numerology and the family...I want him to comeback also because some fans think we are crazy...and the thing that makes me mad is that these fans are the one that followed him everywhere on the streets concerts etc! and dare to call us mad! what will they do when Michael comes back?? they would call him a fake? start a war??  :?
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 01, 2011, 10:01:20 AM
IDK. Would not be the right enviroment for Michael to post under a name which no one would find who he is?

TS´s posts are very elaborated and looks to me that people think about Michael straight the way.

Who knows! Michael could post under the name of a lovely 13 year old girl, very active in the forum as well.

With this I mean that if Michael reads the forum, could be any one.

I read TS´s posts and I find a person in the know predicting events before are shown in certain medias, that´s the only link regarding the hoax. Also, the numerology has been explained but would it be possible to keep things as simple as could get?  :D

To this point I just want to know in what way I could help or contribute to something positive regarding Michael (beyond the web "make that change"already up).

This clue solving up to each ones interpretation did not help much.

Does Michael want us to DO something? and, what?
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 01, 2011, 01:15:07 PM
Maybe that I am reading too much into it but I understand it a little differently when TS says:

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Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity. But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identityto help people believe what I say about myself at that time. Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.

This is not the identity itself that people will not believe imo but rather what TS will say about himself. I don't know if you get what I am trying to say. There is the "identity" part (name; first name) + "what I say about myself" (??). Well maybe that I'm going too far here but why does TS say that the predictions are for helping the people believe what he will say about himself and not just to help us believe who he is?? There is clearly a difference expressed here. But well I can be wrong of course.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 01, 2011, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
IDK. Would not be the right enviroment for Michael to post under a name which no one would find who he is?

TS´s posts are very elaborated and looks to me that people think about Michael straight the way.

Who knows! Michael could post under the name of a lovely 13 year old girl, very active in the forum as well.

With this I mean that if Michael reads the forum, could be any one.

I read TS´s posts and I find a person in the know predicting events before are shown in certain medias, that´s the only link regarding the hoax. Also, the numerology has been explained but would it be possible to keep things as simple as could get?  :D

To this point I just want to know in what way I could help or contribute to something positive regarding Michael (beyond the web "make that change"already up).

This clue solving up to each ones interpretation did not help much.

Does Michael want us to DO something? and, what?

Hi! Gema,

Considering the Teddy Riley and Diddy tweets, Michael seems to want to raise awareness that he is alive.  I have been thinking on how to best help Michael and I think that we need to sow the seeds that he may be alive to the broader public.  This may do nothing but it may also make more and more people researching the net and asking questions. Either way, I don't think it can hurt Michael, it can only make his return safer.

Another friend beLIEver suggested that we could distribute little flyers in our communities, I also like the idea of little Posters left in places where a lot of people walk past or even getting an advert published in a local magazines/free papers.
It could be a simple message (See example below) and it could easily be changed/translated to meet local needs.
We could mobilise the Army of Love easily using the group email address.  The exercise could be repeated as many times as we wish and in as many areas as we want.

[center:3ro5fztc]------------------------------------------------------[/center:3ro5fztc]
Do You Know That MICHAEL JACKSON IS STILL ALIVE and WILL RETURN !!

Did you know that Michael Jackson loves illusion, mystery and showmanship? Did you know that he left many CLUES behind that reveal he is currently in the midst of his GRANDEST ILLUSION EVER !! Look beyond the media LIES that were presented as TRUTH and see the inconsistencies for yourself. Many people have already become enlightened--- do not wait and be the last to know. Search the internet NOW and become informed. THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON'S GREATEST PERFORMANCE EVER --- AND REMEMBER :

TRUTH IS NOT ALWAYS WHAT IT SEEMS

from Michael's Army of Love (add web address)


[center:3ro5fztc]------------------------------------------------------[/center:3ro5fztc]

I think we do need to do a bit more work on the Army of Love website first,there are still some "bare patches". It would be good if we could find a way to point gently to the Hoax or give a first clue.

Any thoughts anybody?

With L.O.V.E
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 01, 2011, 04:05:23 PM
RunningGirl, I think that's a great idea, and the wording is perfect, but I don't think we should include any web address at the bottom. I think the fact that this site comes up near the top on relevant Google searches is enough, and readers of the info are encouraged to search the internet, otherwise we risk coming across hypocritical, "the truth is not always as it seems... so come read our version of it", you know?

It's more powerful, in my opinion, to plant the seed of doubt and let them come find us.
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 01, 2011, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Well I'm 1500% sure that Michael is alive. To me, the numerology and the behaviour of the family proves that MJ is alive. But still I would want MJ to BAM, not only for my own relief but also for the message to be spreaded world wide. He needs to come back and lead his army. Will I believe it is MJ himself or not himself after he Bams? Definitely I'll be sure if it's him. There're very unique parts of him that makes him recognizable. I never believed the 02 guy was a double. It was MJ himself, in TII as well. I know where to look to be sure if that's Michael or not. So I would definitely recognize him if he BAMS. It was already proved to me that Michael is alive and if he BAMS, that would be an ultra double proof. :)
WOW you feel the way I feel!Plus all other clues :not only the numerology and the family...I want him to comeback also because some fans think we are crazy...and the thing that makes me mad is that these fans are the one that followed him everywhere on the streets concerts etc! and dare to call us mad! what will they do when Michael comes back?? they would call him a fake? start a war??  :?

Well probably some of them would think that he is a fake but sooner or later they will all understand that he's Michael himself. But I definitely would love to see their faces when Michael appears :lol:
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 02, 2011, 05:40:54 AM
You're right, Purelove!!!! Me tooo!!!!
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Re: TIAI 12/19

  • on: January 02, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
Quote from: "bec"
RunningGirl, I think that's a great idea, and the wording is perfect, but I don't think we should include any web address at the bottom. I think the fact that this site comes up near the top on relevant Google searches is enough, and readers of the info are encouraged to search the internet, otherwise we risk coming across hypocritical, "the truth is not always as it seems... so come read our version of it", you know?

It's more powerful, in my opinion, to plant the seed of doubt and let them come find us.

Thank you for the feedback Bec, an anonymous "note" adds even more Mystery and is true to the message.

With L.O.V.E
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