Pic Proves MJ had many plastic surgeries and is a chameleon?

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Offline Miss.Peppers

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I have found this pic below.

Does this prove MJ had many plastic surgeries and that he was a chameleon in his appearance, which may be why many people think he used doubles?

Could this picture give credence to the stories that MJ in the morgue had no nose, and used a prosthetic nose?  Is this the reason there was a closed casket?

Just trying to throw a few theories out there.    :roll:

Ive added two pictures:  one which clearly shows MJ with a wierdly shaped nose, and one that compares his looks between the decades.
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I dont think there is an awfull lot of difference in the first two photos and the last one i think it is just a  shadow and it makes Michaels nose look different but i dont think he had to wear a false nose I think that was just a cruel lie .
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he changed a lot since 1999.. :?
he had multiple plastic surgeries and it is obvious.
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a few but I dont think a lot.
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Yes I think he had a certain amount of plastic surgeries, but not as many as the medias say. They have exagerated a lot.
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Michael didn't have as many plastic surgeries as the media and haters like to claim. But he also didn't count follow-up work as an additional plastic surgery. For example, his first nose job required a second operation to fix breathing/singing problems created during the first procedure. He considered that one nose job, although some would count it as two.

As for the photos, the one on the bottom seems altered to me. I've never seen Michael's nose look that odd before, so I don't think it's an accurate image or proves anything. However, the top photos seem to prove that Michael didn't have that many cosmetic surgeries since he looks very similar in both, although they were snapped almost 20 years apart.
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he changed a lot..
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Offline awesome1

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now im not saying that he used a fake nose but this pic of his nose actually seems to support that point ....



thhere is something up with the tip of it...
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I think it is pretty obvious he did have lots of surgical procedures. You only have to look at the way his face changed over the years. Am not being unkind as most of Hollywood have had extensive work done but to reach 50 years of age with no wrinkles at all then it's obvious he has had face lift(s) and work around the eyes and eye lift at the very least and that is without the drastic change in his nose.
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Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
I have found this pic below.

Does this prove MJ had many plastic surgeries and that he was a chameleon in his appearance, which may be why many people think he used doubles?

Could this picture give credence to the stories that MJ in the morgue had no nose, and used a prosthetic nose?  Is this the reason there was a closed casket?

Just trying to throw a few theories out there.    :roll:

Ive added two pictures:  one which clearly shows MJ with a wierdly shaped nose, and one that compares his looks between the decades.
im sorry but this does not make any logical sense here

in the first picture you clearly see mike looking exactly like he has for the past 20 odd years BUT yet your saying he had many surgeries?

so are you saying that he would do something to his face and then go back and have his face done again to look exactly like how he has been looking? please explain how or why he would change his face just to change it back to the way it was before? i have never seen someone get a nose job but add more  :roll:

what seems more logical is that he has had the 2 nose jobs he has said but he does use doubles and prostetic make up which is what it looks like in the last picture and if you look  close up pictures of the o2 person,its doesnt look like real skin. rather its mike or not idk but whoever it is it is not there real face we are seeing, 02 guy also has on gloves for hands

with that said yes mike was a chameleon BUT he did not do it with surgery
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and i have never in my life heard of someone with a removable nose :roll: again
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I love and adore him anyway but I think he should have stopped the surgery (apart from anti aging) at the time of "Thriller".
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he changed a lot since 1999.. :?
he had multiple plastic surgeries and it is obvious.

The subjects of Michael and surgery really makes me angry, because there is the media, haters and people like the quote above that make, listen and believe the misconstrued lies. Please take a look at OP's first picture, and tell me what indicates he has had theese multiple plastic surgeries you speak of? I can't see much change here other than natural change.

Michael himself said that he had 2 on his nose, and I believe this to be true (Not counting followup procedures as said above.)

And the second picture on the OP is definatly edited / shadows or something.
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Wow, this is the second time I agree with you Harleyblonde....lol
He should have stopped going under the knife after Thriller.
Sorry, but I think that last photo shown (with his nose peeling off, is just awful....)
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Wow, this is the second time I agree with you Harleyblonde....lol
He should have stopped going under the knife after Thriller.
Sorry, but I think that last photo shown (with his nose peeling off, is just awful....)

I dont think his nose is peeling, i think its a flesh coloured plaster he has on his nose.
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Wow, this is the second time I agree with you Harleyblonde....lol
He should have stopped going under the knife after Thriller.
Sorry, but I think that last photo shown (with his nose peeling off, is just awful....)
Thanks for that. Great minds think alike eh?  Are we twins seperated at birth! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Wow, this is the second time I agree with you Harleyblonde....lol
He should have stopped going under the knife after Thriller.
Sorry, but I think that last photo shown (with his nose peeling off, is just awful....)

I dont think his nose is peeling, i think its a flesh coloured plaster he has on his nose.

Yeah that is just a plaster, possibly after one of the surgeries or a follow up procedure?
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Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Could this picture give credence to the stories that MJ in the morgue had no nose, and used a prosthetic nose?  Is this the reason there was a closed casket?

Well, it would have looked a bit odd, an open empty casket, right?  ;)
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in the last photo it looks like some type of bandaid in the photo. maybe after a procedure or maybe he cut his nose who knows and who really cares hes beautiful regardless and i really dont care how many surgeries he has had.
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well im gonna take that pic off my previous post as well quite simply i didnt mean it to be offensive to anyone, and ill accept that it was maybe a blemish and i find it quite scary to say the least.
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Oh no, it was not offensive to me at all.  I've seen it before, and I think it was a clear bandaid...it just appears to be "peeling".
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well to be fair it kinda scared me shitless wen i opened the page again  :lol:
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i love the comparison pic's.. the first 2!! i think theres not that much difference only in weight like slimming of the jaw line etc!! must just be me but i like them.. :)

am i just being awkward??  :roll:
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i just wanted to add that my best friend developed a bump on her nose and it eventually made it hard for her to breathe she had to have the bone in her nose grinded for this reason and then later she had to go back and have work on it for cosmetic reasons and she had a bandaid looking tape on her nose like michaels. we have no clue why he looked liked this in this picture but i dont think he should be judged looks are not the only thing that matters. lets say michael did have multiple surgeries if he did it was probably to try and please this cruel and disqusting world we live in. Michael was human and aging happens to all of us. everything he did someone had to make a big deal about it. Im not talking to anyone specific but i hate the subject of michaels looks. i dont care what he did or didnt do to his face it dont change the fact that he loved everyone and everything.
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Quote from: "lisap27"
i love the comparison pic's.. the first 2!! i think theres not that much difference only in weight like slimming of the jaw line etc!! must just be me but i like them.. :)

am i just being awkward??  :roll:

No no you're not awkward :) or we both are because I love these pics too! Michael is beautiful, from his childhood to nowadays. Tabloids have always made him their number 1 target, they have always tend to spread lies and exagerate a lot about his plastic surgeries. He had ones, he said it himself , he had his reasons to do it and that's all :)
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I love and adore him anyway but I think he should have stopped the surgery (apart from anti aging) at the time of "Thriller".


Yes.
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i just wanted to add that my best friend developed a bump on her nose and it eventually made it hard for her to breathe she had to have the bone in her nose grinded for this reason and then later she had to go back and have work on it for cosmetic reasons and she had a bandaid looking tape on her nose like michaels. we have no clue why he looked liked this in this picture but i dont think he should be judged looks are not the only thing that matters. lets say michael did have multiple surgeries if he did it was probably to try and please this cruel and disqusting world we live in. Michael was human and aging happens to all of us. everything he did someone had to make a big deal about it. Im not talking to anyone specific but i hate the subject of michaels looks. i dont care what he did or didnt do to his face it dont change the fact that he loved everyone and everything.

Well said, I couldn't agree more. No matter what, Michael has always been- and always will be beautiful.
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Michael didn't have as many plastic surgeries as the media and haters like to claim. But he also didn't count follow-up work as an additional plastic surgery. For example, his first nose job required a second operation to fix breathing/singing problems created during the first procedure. He considered that one nose job, although some would count it as two.

As for the photos, the one on the bottom seems altered to me. I've never seen Michael's nose look that odd before, so I don't think it's an accurate image or proves anything. However, the top photos seem to prove that Michael didn't have that many cosmetic surgeries since he looks very similar in both, although they were snapped almost 20 years apart.

EXACTLY! I love that twenty year comparison pic-there is hardly any differance in those two pictures.
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Quote from: "Nathalia"
Quote from: "live~love~laugh~mj"
i just wanted to add that my best friend developed a bump on her nose and it eventually made it hard for her to breathe she had to have the bone in her nose grinded for this reason and then later she had to go back and have work on it for cosmetic reasons and she had a bandaid looking tape on her nose like michaels. we have no clue why he looked liked this in this picture but i dont think he should be judged looks are not the only thing that matters. lets say michael did have multiple surgeries if he did it was probably to try and please this cruel and disqusting world we live in. Michael was human and aging happens to all of us. everything he did someone had to make a big deal about it. Im not talking to anyone specific but i hate the subject of michaels looks. i dont care what he did or didnt do to his face it dont change the fact that he loved everyone and everything.

Well said, I couldn't agree more. No matter what, Michael has always been- and always will be beautiful.
I totally agree with you both! Michael has always and will always be beautiful. He has an amazing, loving, huge heart and it shows all through him, especially his eyes. Eyes, I have always believed are the windows to the soul. The first time I saw Michael's eyes I knew he was a very special man. I can always get a feeling about someone by looking at their eyes, ever since I was a little girl.
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Heck to me MJ was and is adorable no matter if he had 100 surgeries! That man is just flat out beautiful . Also,, I really really in my opinion thought he should have stopped during the bad era. :)
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Well said, I couldn't agree more. No matter what, Michael has always been- and always will be beautiful.
I totally agree with you both! Michael has always and will always be beautiful. He has an amazing, loving, huge heart and it shows all through him, especially his eyes. Eyes, I have always believed are the windows to the soul. The first time I saw Michael's eyes I knew he was a very special man. I can always get a feeling about someone by looking at their eyes, ever since I was a little girl.[/quote]

Exactly... I too have something with the eyes... Plus the eyes can describe so many feelings,it's incredible. And Michael's... wow they truly are special.
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What the hell r u ppl talking about??! Ugh! He looks the same on the 1st 2 pix! He just got older - of course a persons face will change a bit.
I think the reason for all this stupid rumors about his surgeries are his Doubles! They all look different, so thats why ppl thought he got more work done, but really he did not!
Last pic might be just photoshopped, may be he had a little pimple or something but some a$$ just made it look bad.....

And another thing I wanna say. MJ is sooooooo freaking attractive! I'd take him!

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he changed a lot since 1999.. :?
he had multiple plastic surgeries and it is obvious.


After 1999 there were rare cases when i saw Michael without a mask. My question is : that man who suffered so many surgical intervention was the real Michael or ...? Just a question .
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I love and adore him anyway but I think he should have stopped the surgery (apart from anti aging) at the time of "Thriller".

I agree...I could never understand how he couldn't see how absolutely drop dead gorgeous he was.  He still takes my breath away when I look at those old photos...in the Bad era too.  He looked pretty darn good in 2007, but was just too thin in TII.
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I could never understand how he couldn't see how absolutely drop dead gorgeous he was.
It's a psychological thing. What everyone else sees and what Michael sees are two very different things because we don't have the memories of the psychological abuse he endured from Joe and his brothers regarding his physical appearance distorting how we perceive reality.

This is similar to what happens with some fashion models. The public thinks they're gorgeous, but they don't agree because they remember getting teased for being so tall and scrawny or whatever while they were growing up. Overweight children who are teased because of their weight have the same issue, only they see themselves as fat, even after they become "normal"-sized. And on it goes.

I think Michael was just as drop-dead gorgeous during the HIStory era as he was in the Bad era. And, as you mentioned, he looked mighty fine in 2007 and in This Is It. I've always preferred him with meat on his bones, so I believe he would have definitely looked much better with more weight in the movie, particularly because his weight has such a drastic effect on his facial features.
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Yes I agree, it's quite obvious he had some sort of body dysmorphia...it just makes me sad because I think he was perfection.
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If there wasn't any good and sincere woman by his side to love him unconditionally and say him that he's perfect . He was alone wondering why...maybe because he's not perfect.
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If there wasn't any good and sincere woman by his side to love him unconditionally and say him that he's perfect . He was alone wondering why...maybe because he's not perfect.
ILuvUMoreMJ probably means that he was her idea of perfection, not that he was perfect in general to everyone. Two different things.

We don't know for certain that Michael was alone, but if he was, that doesn't mean it was because something is wrong with him or he isn't perfect (which I don't think he is, by the way, and that makes him even more attractive in my book).

He'd been married and divorced multiple times, which makes many people jaded about getting married again. He also had insane amounts of money and fame, which makes it more difficult to determine if a potential love interest is genuinely interested in you as a person or not.

Michael also had understandable trust issues because he was surrounded by so many leeches, butt-kissers, and devious people throughout his life. So, establishing a lasting relationship was that much more difficult for him than it is for the average, non-famous, non-filthy rich person.
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ILuvUMoreMJ probably means that he was her idea of perfection, not that he was perfect in general to everyone. Two different things.

Yes, thank you for clarifying that.  I only meant that his looks were perfection to me.  I can't say otherwise, because I don't know him personally, but maybe there's still hope. ;)
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What the hell r u ppl talking about??! Ugh! He looks the same on the 1st 2 pix! He just got older - of course a persons face will change a bit.
I think the reason for all this stupid rumors about his surgeries are his Doubles! They all look different, so thats why ppl thought he got more work done, but really he did not!
Last pic might be just photoshopped, may be he had a little pimple or something but some a$$ just made it look bad.....

And another thing I wanna say. MJ is sooooooo freaking attractive! I'd take him!

K.

100% AGREE ;)
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If there wasn't any good and sincere woman by his side to love him unconditionally and say him that he's perfect . He was alone wondering why...maybe because he's not perfect.
ILuvUMoreMJ probably means that he was her idea of perfection, not that he was perfect in general to everyone. Two different things.

We don't know for certain that Michael was alone, but if he was, that doesn't mean it was because something is wrong with him or he isn't perfect (which I don't think he is, by the way, and that makes him even more attractive in my book).

He'd been married and divorced multiple times, which makes many people jaded about getting married again. He also had insane amounts of money and fame, which makes it more difficult to determine if a potential love interest is genuinely interested in you as a person or not.

Michael also had understandable trust issues because he was surrounded by so many leeches, butt-kissers, and devious people throughout his life. So, establishing a lasting relationship was that much more difficult for him than it is for the average, non-famous, non-filthy rich person.
I honestly don't think anyone but a very conceited big headed person are happy with their looks, no matter who say's how gorgeous they are, there are happily married women who have husbands who adore them and they still insist in having procedures done. I knew a Lady who insisted on a boob and nose job and her husband was totally against it and said she didn't need it, and this is the UK and not Hollywood. I think it stems from insecurity and how you feel about yourself. Michaels father and indeed he said even his brothers would tease him about having a big nose and although people think teasing doesn't matter it can make you very insecure and cause damage mentally.
    BTW- I hardly call getting married and divorced twice multiple marriages! 2 is hardly multiple especially for LA! Elizabeth Taylor has had multiple marriages, also Mickey Rooney and Za Za Gabor. I also do not think he cared for Debbie Rowe, he wanted children, they didn't even live together. Apoligies if it sounds cruel but no love lost there!
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I think he's had many face enhancements!  I think they were exactly that.......enhancements!  And I love everyone of them.  Sometimes, looking at his pics, videos I admire how physically attractive he is.  

Because of all those facial enhancements....I think he is "THE" best looking man on planet earth!  I don't care if he had 1000........he is VERY pleasing to the eye!   :)  :D  I wish other men would do the same.
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Why didn't he just leave his dam nose alone he was hot the way he was!
We all loved him for what was inside, but obviously he wasn't happy with his nose the way it was...
It does make you wonder how much surgery he really had, as he did keep on looking so different on many of his pics...
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^ :shock: "WHy didn't he leave his nose alone?"Umm HELLO he broke it the first.what else do you do in that case and if you have problems later on after with breathing or it looks weird that would be bad,especially if you are a entertainer.
The bottom picture has a different facial expression and position.
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GRR!PRETTY DISGUSTING I MUST SAY,WOW what a freaking stupid topic.I do not see where you people are getting at.I see people getting all snappy and sarcastic about this.
First of all this topic is pretty insulting and is basically bashing mj's appearance.Complete over-exxageration,especially on the plastic surgery 'controversy'.
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I think that he aged very well.Ever heard of that saying about black people and aging?,even though he doesn't really have the pigment that much,still.Some people when they get older,they look the same.
You people act like you don't wish there was something about yourself that you would want to be different.Then you praise plastic surgery when it's not necessarily a normal or something that you should be doing for that. :? OR you criticize it.Yes I admit there were some 'low' points that I WASN'T TOTALLY into but oh well. :roll: Think about how it would feel to be in Michael's place.BODY DYSMORPHIC DISORDER:TOTAL BS.Just because you may be insecure doesn't mean that you have BDD.It annoys me how people make him out to be some mopey loser.He is a human,not a god.
He wore the bandaid on his nose because so far from what I read the skin was getting all dead and messed up from bad plastic surgeries so they supposedly used a part of his ear to fix it up.
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To me, I do not care how many surgeries that MJ had.  I think he is one of most sexiest men that I have ever seen in my life.  MJ, you are perfect and beautiful.  Love you, baby.
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I think he's had many face enhancements!  I think they were exactly that.......enhancements!  And I love everyone of them.  Sometimes, looking at his pics, videos I admire how physically attractive he is.  

Because of all those facial enhancements....I think he is "THE" best looking man on planet earth!  I don't care if he had 1000........he is VERY pleasing to the eye!   :)  :D  I wish other men would do the same.

I agree totally.  MJ is so gorgeous to look at  and to stare at.  I agree that other chaps so do that same.
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For me the first pic from 1988 looks like the edited his nose....

here's another from 1988:



his nose is wider..
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Could this picture give credence to the stories that MJ in the morgue had no nose, and used a prosthetic nose?  Is this the reason there was a closed casket?

Well, it would have looked a bit odd, an open empty casket, right?  ;)
Couldn´t agree more! *thumbs up*
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Ofcourse he changed as he got older. I'm not saying he had no plastic surgery, he did, but not as many as people say.

I don't think he had something done too his cheekbones eiter. Most of the Jacksons have the same cheekbones.
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Wow, this is the second time I agree with you Harleyblonde....lol
He should have stopped going under the knife after Thriller.
Sorry, but I think that last photo shown (with his nose peeling off, is just awful....)

I dont think his nose is peeling, i think its a flesh coloured plaster he has on his nose.

As far as I can see it's a human nose of flesh and blood  :roll:
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if you grew up the spotlight all your life (pratically) & have a judgemental father making fun of you & doing everything complete to bring your self-esteem down ... would you do anything to make you happy with your looks ?!?! :|  :cry:
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I DON'T CARE Michael had some plastic surgeries. Yeah, he had a horrible childhood and was told bu his FATHER that he was so ugly!
He is beautiful on the left pic AND on the right one! :D
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You know Michael said numerous times that the suntan lotion industry is a billion dollar industry and he was right.  How many of us (me included) will spend time in a tanning bed or out in the sun trying to get that "healthy glow"?  The way I see it is the first 2 pics just show aging, and he aged very well I must add.  But for arguements sake, lets say he did have multiple surgeries as the media claimed.  Well, the way I see it, the man busted his ass to make the money he made and while he enjoyed what he done he was ALWAYS in the spotlight.  He was, and still is, Michael Jackson.  No matter where he went or what he did people were always scrutinizing him so if he wanted to spend his money on plastic surgery, botox, or on frivalous "toys" who has the right to say anything about it.  It was his money to do with as he wished.  He done so much good for the world and yet the media couldn't see that, all they wanted to do was tear him apart.  I call that just blatent jealousy!!!!  

Of course this is JMO and really I am not trying to be hateful but just voicing how I feel.
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I'm not gonna comment here about his surgeries or about his nose, etc..he's just beautiful inside and out///there's so many other things to talk about this person...sorry, no offense intended
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The subjects of Michael and surgery really makes me angry, because there is the media, haters and people like the quote above that make, listen and believe the misconstrued lies. Please take a look at OP's first picture, and tell me what indicates he has had theese multiple plastic surgeries you speak of? I can't see much change here other than natural change.

Michael himself said that he had 2 on his nose, and I believe this to be true (Not counting followup procedures as said above.)

And the second picture on the OP is definatly edited / shadows or something.

I totally agree!
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Looks like he still had the same jawline regardless of the changes.
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I think the picture was comparing at and proving at how MJ didn't have too many plastic surgeries :D There are also a lot of factors to consider... when we age, our body changes too. MJ always had make-up on (some make-ups of his are just plain ... IDK. blame the make-up artist lol). The angles, lightings, etc.

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One of the side effects of the Thriller period was to make me weary of constantly being in the public eye. Because of this, I resolved to lead a quieter, more private life. I was still quite shy about my appearance. You must remember that I had been a child star and when you grow under that kind of scrutiny people don't want you to change, to get older and look different. When I first became well known, I had a lot of baby fat and a very round, chubby face. That roundness stayed with me until several years ago when I changed my diet and stopped eating beef, chicken, pork, and fish, as well as certain fattening foods. I just wanted to look better, live better, and be healthier. Gradually, I lost weight, my face took on its present shape and the press started accusing me of surgically altering my appearance, beyond nosejob I freely admitted I had, like many performers and film stars. They would take an old picture from adolescence or high school, and compare it to a current photograph. In the old picture my face would be round and pudgy. I'd have an Afro, and the picture would be badly lit. The new picture would show a much older, more mature face. I've got  a different hairstyle and a different nose. Also, the photographer's lighting is excellent in the recent photographs. It's really not fair to make such comparisons. They have said I had bone surgery on my face. It seems strange to me that people would jump to that conclusion and I thought it was very unfair.

Judy Garland and Jean Harlow and many others have had their noses done. My problem is that as a child star people got used to seeing me look one way.

I'd like to set the record straight now. I have never had my cheeks altered or my eyes altered. I have not have my lips thinned, nor have I had dermabrasion or a skin peel. All of these charges are ridiculous. If they were true, I would say so, but they aren't. I have had my nose altered twice and I recently added a cleft to my chin, but that is it. Period. I don't care what anyone else says--it's my face and I know.

I'm a vegetarian now and I'm so much thinner. I've been on a strict diet for years. I feel better than I ever have, healthier and more energetic. I don't understand why the press is so interested in speculating about my appearance anyway. What does my face have to do with my music or my dancing?

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Michael is the most beautiful man I laid eyes on.

period.
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There is no change in the first two pictures. Just age and hair.
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I know a lot of people are probably going to disagree with me, but I can show you a video and a little trick that will show that he only had the few surgeries he said he had.  For space-saving reasons, I won't post it here, but if you are interested, by all means pm me and I will be glad to show you.   :D
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I think the photo you posted meant to show he DIDN'T change that much, not the opposite. Infact, he didn't. He had some plastic surgery yes, so what? Not as much as the press said though and he is the most handsome man I've ever seen, plastic surgery or not !!!
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i dont think he changed alot. but i think he changed a few of his features which were prominent. so that may be the reason why he may look so different.

i DONT believe he got cheek implants (check out the whole Jackson family), he didnt do anything to his forehead, or chin EXCEPT for enhancing his cleft (which he said himself). his lips i think he may have outlined. but i dont believe he thinned him.

obviously his nose, skin color and cleft changed which are a few of his prominent features so i think it may give the appearance that he changed alot of things.

but i dont believe that to be the case.

in any case Michael was BEAUTIFUL
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i dont think he changed alot. but i think he changed a few of his features which were prominent. so that may be the reason why he may look so different.

i DONT believe he got cheek implants (check out the whole Jackson family), he didnt do anything to his forehead, or chin EXCEPT for enhancing his cleft (which he said himself). his lips i think he may have outlined. but i dont believe he thinned him.

obviously his nose, skin color and cleft changed which are a few of his prominent features so i think it may give the appearance that he changed alot of things.

but i dont believe that to be the case.

in any case Michael was BEAUTIFUL
no wait! he IS BEAUTIFUL! :d he is alive right? :D
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What people are talking to here? Maybe I made a mistake and instead of michaeljacksonhoaxforum am on michaeljacksonplasticsurgeryforum? And who cares what's important and what are its operations and nose? Does it make him better or worse than he is? His Shrinks achieve? What does it matter how he has the nose or skin color ??!!!! I guess I'm not where I should be .... and Michael message about freedom of speech, elections, national origin, appearance .. not passed on to all ....
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i dont think he changed alot. but i think he changed a few of his features which were prominent. so that may be the reason why he may look so different.

i DONT believe he got cheek implants (check out the whole Jackson family), he didnt do anything to his forehead, or chin EXCEPT for enhancing his cleft (which he said himself). his lips i think he may have outlined. but i dont believe he thinned him.

obviously his nose, skin color and cleft changed which are a few of his prominent features so i think it may give the appearance that he changed alot of things.

but i dont believe that to be the case.

in any case Michael was BEAUTIFUL
no wait! he IS BEAUTIFUL! :d he is alive right? :D

Of course. I apologize. My bad. :)

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What people are talking to here? Maybe I made a mistake and instead of michaeljacksonhoaxforum am on michaeljacksonplasticsurgeryforum? And who cares what's important and what are its operations and nose? Does it make him better or worse than he is? His Shrinks achieve? What does it matter how he has the nose or skin color ??!!!! I guess I'm not where I should be .... and Michael message about freedom of speech, elections, national origin, appearance .. not passed on to all ....

I think its okay to talk about it. I mean yes we should do our part in investigating but its also okay to talk about how handsome Michael IS or the good things he HAS done. It's all good.

With L.O.V.E. :D
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i really think that

THE INSIDE  :)

is more important

than the OUTSIDE appearance  ;)
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i really think that

THE INSIDE  :)

is more important

than the OUTSIDE appearance  ;)

of course. and i think thats what made Michael even more beautiful. :D he was a good person and he exhuded (sp?) goodness so he was even more beautiful.
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Well I think that it doesn't really matter how many surgeries Michael had which I know he did have his fair share of but he got older and everyone gets older and shows changes in their looks. I have just turned 13 2 months ago and everyone is sayin that my face is changing a lot now lols. It is a big age difference between me and Mike but hey I would still go out with him because he has a beautiful heart and he is better than all the men I see here where I live well where im trying to get at is Michael is beautiful inside and out and I would love him no matter how many surgeries he's had he's OUR ANGEL MIKEY!!!!
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now im not saying that he used a fake nose but this pic of his nose actually seems to support that point ....



thhere is something up with the tip of it...
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Its a filler,you should know that.If Not you have some reading to do.
Im sorry but i get sick and tired of people discussing Michaels nose when they know nothing.

The tip part is a filler,he has a nose,his nose is his.In 2002 or 03 some Dr. fudged him up so Arnie fixed it with a filler.
The rest is all MJ,its his nose.
The touch -ups the Dr.s nor MJ counted as surgery,things come with complications that have to be fixed.

As for the last photo?where did this come from,b/c ive never seen it nor Mj's nose look distorted in that way.

As for the 2007 picture,it is photoshopped,look at it long enough.Im glad somebody wanted to fooled ppl for MJ's name,but the whole top,cheek part was touched up to make it identical.

As far as Michael's appearance,I dont see anything wrong with it,the only time I have problems with it is when he packs on Make-up,well his make up artist did it.If you really compare,and the pictures have to be at the same angle and the same exposure,Michael didnt really change,and i cant stress that enough.you just have to get the correct photos to compare..idc if its from the 80's to now.The only time I've ever seen Michael and was confused was in 2002/03/04 period,like I said someone messed up there,it was fixed.

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Well I think that it doesn't really matter how many surgeries Michael had which I know he did have his fair share of but he got older and everyone gets older and shows changes in their looks. I have just turned 13 2 months ago and everyone is sayin that my face is changing a lot now lols. It is a big age difference between me and Mike but hey I would still go out with him because he has a beautiful heart and he is better than all the men I see here where I live well where im trying to get at is Michael is beautiful inside and out and I would love him no matter how many surgeries he's had he's OUR ANGEL MIKEY!!!!

It really is amazing to see that we have people of all ages and colors here, it gives me a smile :) Hey :)

Quote from: "EternalBliss"

Quote from: "awesome1"
now im not saying that he used a fake nose but this pic of his nose actually seems to support that point ....



thhere is something up with the tip of it...
..............
Its a filler,you should know that.If Not you have some reading to do.
Im sorry but i get sick and tired of people discussing Michaels nose when they know nothing.

The tip part is a filler,he has a nose,his nose is his.In 2002 or 03 some Dr. fudged him up so Arnie fixed it with a filler.
The rest is all MJ,its his nose.
The touch -ups the Dr.s nor MJ counted as surgery,things come with complications that have to be fixed.

As for the last photo?where did this come from,b/c ive never seen it nor Mj's nose look distorted in that way.

As for the 2007 picture,it is photoshopped,look at it long enough.Im glad somebody wanted to fooled ppl for MJ's name,but the whole top,cheek part was touched up to make it identical.

As far as Michael's appearance,I dont see anything wrong with it,the only time I have problems with it is when he packs on Make-up,well his make up artist did it.If you really compare,and the pictures have to be at the same angle and the same exposure,Michael didnt really change,and i cant stress that enough.you just have to get the correct photos to compare..idc if its from the 80's to now.The only time I've ever seen Michael and was confused was in 2002/03/04 period,like I said someone messed up there,it was fixed.

..........EternalBliss

Very well said. Thank you.
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Well I think that it doesn't really matter how many surgeries Michael had which I know he did have his fair share of but he got older and everyone gets older and shows changes in their looks. I have just turned 13 2 months ago and everyone is sayin that my face is changing a lot now lols. It is a big age difference between me and Mike but hey I would still go out with him because he has a beautiful heart and he is better than all the men I see here where I live well where im trying to get at is Michael is beautiful inside and out and I would love him no matter how many surgeries he's had he's OUR ANGEL MIKEY!!!!

It really is amazing to see that we have people of all ages and colors here, it gives me a smile :) Hey :)

Quote from: "EternalBliss"

Quote from: "awesome1"
now im not saying that he used a fake nose but this pic of his nose actually seems to support that point ....



thhere is something up with the tip of it...
..............
Its a filler,you should know that.If Not you have some reading to do.
Im sorry but i get sick and tired of people discussing Michaels nose when they know nothing.

The tip part is a filler,he has a nose,his nose is his.In 2002 or 03 some Dr. fudged him up so Arnie fixed it with a filler.
The rest is all MJ,its his nose.
The touch -ups the Dr.s nor MJ counted as surgery,things come with complications that have to be fixed.

As for the last photo?where did this come from,b/c ive never seen it nor Mj's nose look distorted in that way.

As for the 2007 picture,it is photoshopped,look at it long enough.Im glad somebody wanted to fooled ppl for MJ's name,but the whole top,cheek part was touched up to make it identical.

As far as Michael's appearance,I dont see anything wrong with it,the only time I have problems with it is when he packs on Make-up,well his make up artist did it.If you really compare,and the pictures have to be at the same angle and the same exposure,Michael didnt really change,and i cant stress that enough.you just have to get the correct photos to compare..idc if its from the 80's to now.The only time I've ever seen Michael and was confused was in 2002/03/04 period,like I said someone messed up there,it was fixed.

..........EternalBliss

Very well said. Thank you.

Awwww,Thanks :oops:
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Well I think that it doesn't really matter how many surgeries Michael had which I know he did have his fair share of but he got older and everyone gets older and shows changes in their looks. I have just turned 13 2 months ago and everyone is sayin that my face is changing a lot now lols. It is a big age difference between me and Mike but hey I would still go out with him because he has a beautiful heart and he is better than all the men I see here where I live well where im trying to get at is Michael is beautiful inside and out and I would love him no matter how many surgeries he's had he's OUR ANGEL MIKEY!!!!

It really is amazing to see that we have people of all ages and colors here, it gives me a smile :) Hey :)

Quote from: "EternalBliss"

Quote from: "awesome1"
now im not saying that he used a fake nose but this pic of his nose actually seems to support that point ....



thhere is something up with the tip of it...
..............
Its a filler,you should know that.If Not you have some reading to do.
Im sorry but i get sick and tired of people discussing Michaels nose when they know nothing.

The tip part is a filler,he has a nose,his nose is his.In 2002 or 03 some Dr. fudged him up so Arnie fixed it with a filler.
The rest is all MJ,its his nose.
The touch -ups the Dr.s nor MJ counted as surgery,things come with complications that have to be fixed.

As for the last photo?where did this come from,b/c ive never seen it nor Mj's nose look distorted in that way.

As for the 2007 picture,it is photoshopped,look at it long enough.Im glad somebody wanted to fooled ppl for MJ's name,but the whole top,cheek part was touched up to make it identical.

As far as Michael's appearance,I dont see anything wrong with it,the only time I have problems with it is when he packs on Make-up,well his make up artist did it.If you really compare,and the pictures have to be at the same angle and the same exposure,Michael didnt really change,and i cant stress that enough.you just have to get the correct photos to compare..idc if its from the 80's to now.The only time I've ever seen Michael and was confused was in 2002/03/04 period,like I said someone messed up there,it was fixed.

..........EternalBliss

Very well said. Thank you.
I'm glad that made u smile well i have about only 2 friends who are true Michael fans like me and we are the same age except my friend 1 she's 12 but she will be 13 next month so yea and i always get a a happy but kinda weird feeling when i see people who are older than me on here because i think that you guys might think I'm a weird little girl who is infatuated with Michael so that's why i am a little shy  to post lols to tell the truth :oops:  :oops:  :oops: but when you guys agree with my posts which a lot of you have it makes me feel better because i think of you all as my other family and i love every single last one of you from the bottom of my heart :D  :D  :D
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awwww. you rock, MJ5starchick.

I know how you feel. I used to feel like that when I was alot younger. Some people never took me seriously when I liked something. But who cares..

You be You. :D

Youre sigs are fantastic,too. :D

So let me direct myself back to the topic..
Michael was beautiful inside and out.
Argument closed. :D
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I'm glad that made u smile well i have about only 2 friends who are true Michael fans like me and we are the same age except my friend 1 she's 12 but she will be 13 next month so yea and i always get a a happy but kinda weird feeling when i see people who are older than me on here because i think that you guys might think I'm a weird little girl who is infatuated with Michael so that's why i am a little shy  to post lols to tell the truth :oops:  :oops:  :oops: but when you guys agree with my posts which a lot of you have it makes me feel better because i think of you all as my other family and i love every single last one of you from the bottom of my heart :D  :D  :D

You really shouldn't feel like that. Stand proud :)

We don't discrimate anyone for age, gender, race, color or anything :) And neither does Michael.
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@Lee.H sorry can't quote im on my phone lols but thnx now I kno that I don't have to worry anymore I love being here now u and Cresendo made me feel better lols=)  :D
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@Cresendo no u rock:D!!!!! Thnx for speaking from experienced because now I'm not shy really anymore because of you and Lee.H and I thank the both of you with L.O.V.E from the bottom of my heart=]=]=]
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i dont think he changed alot. but i think he changed a few of his features which were prominent. so that may be the reason why he may look so different.

i DONT believe he got cheek implants (check out the whole Jackson family), he didnt do anything to his forehead, or chin EXCEPT for enhancing his cleft (which he said himself). his lips i think he may have outlined. but i dont believe he thinned him.

obviously his nose, skin color and cleft changed which are a few of his prominent features so i think it may give the appearance that he changed alot of things.

but i dont believe that to be the case.

in any case Michael was BEAUTIFUL

I totally agree that Michael was beautiful.

What bugs me is the Bashir interview where MJ was adamant that he had only had two nose surgeries and nothing else.. and yet in the Moonwalk book he admitted to a cleft chin surgery?  That made no sense to me why he would lie like that.
I feel if MJ had been totally honest and said "yeah, ive had plastic surgery so what?" then it wouldnt have become the issue it did.  By not being honest about it, it created mistrust which then led to other problems.
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i dont think he changed alot. but i think he changed a few of his features which were prominent. so that may be the reason why he may look so different.

i DONT believe he got cheek implants (check out the whole Jackson family), he didnt do anything to his forehead, or chin EXCEPT for enhancing his cleft (which he said himself). his lips i think he may have outlined. but i dont believe he thinned him.

obviously his nose, skin color and cleft changed which are a few of his prominent features so i think it may give the appearance that he changed alot of things.

but i dont believe that to be the case.

in any case Michael was BEAUTIFUL

I totally agree that Michael was beautiful.

What bugs me is the Bashir interview where MJ was adamant that he had only had two nose surgeries and nothing else.. and yet in the Moonwalk book he admitted to a cleft chin surgery?  That made no sense to me why he would lie like that.
I feel if MJ had been totally honest and said "yeah, ive had plastic surgery so what?" then it wouldnt have become the issue it did.  By not being honest about it, it created mistrust which then led to other problems.
well I don't know. I think Michael didn't even knew what to say anymore. He just don't know what to say anymore. When he says he just had 2 operations, people are talking stupid about him and making things up, but If Michael says that he had more plastic surgeries, people ALSO would talk stupid and stuff. So he just don't know what to say anymore.. my oppinion ;)
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it is really none of our business what Michael has done, as long as it did not endanger his overall health.

Michael is beautiful enough. I don't know how someone can be that gorgeous, even at 51 years old. it's really incredible...
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I see in the two first pictures how a very good looking man aged normally and looked even better afterwards. The second picture just looks like a bad angle, bad illumination or simply photoshopped. For me MJ has always been perfect and I've never seen all those changes/surgeries that all the tabloids, and some people here, are talking about. MJ accepted the two nose surgeries and the chin cleft and I believe him, I don't see huge changes, only a kid that became a gorgeus man. And let's not talk about hin inner beauty, other wise we wouldn never stop talking about how great it is.
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i dont think he changed alot. but i think he changed a few of his features which were prominent. so that may be the reason why he may look so different.

i DONT believe he got cheek implants (check out the whole Jackson family), he didnt do anything to his forehead, or chin EXCEPT for enhancing his cleft (which he said himself). his lips i think he may have outlined. but i dont believe he thinned him.

obviously his nose, skin color and cleft changed which are a few of his prominent features so i think it may give the appearance that he changed alot of things.

but i dont believe that to be the case.

in any case Michael was BEAUTIFUL

I totally agree that Michael was beautiful.

What bugs me is the Bashir interview where MJ was adamant that he had only had two nose surgeries and nothing else.. and yet in the Moonwalk book he admitted to a cleft chin surgery?  That made no sense to me why he would lie like that.
I feel if MJ had been totally honest and said "yeah, ive had plastic surgery so what?" then it wouldnt have become the issue it did.  By not being honest about it, it created mistrust which then led to other problems.

I agree with you. I think I've heard Michael tell the occasional fib. Which i can completely understand. I mean having gotten a nose job or any kinda of surgery to alter your appearance is not exactly something you wanna tell the world even if it obvious.

He should have told Bashir to mind his own business. However Michael was too classy to do that.

All in all.. about his entire life I think Michael did harmless things like taking a picture of himself in the burn chamber to create himself a bizarre image so he could keep himself in the news and on everyone's lips. Which I thought was a brilliant PR move. Intil it came back to bite him. and Michael became a big target to such hideous accusations that weren't true.

So when he had surgeries done, Michael had already had a rep for being "weird" (which I believe he was/is perfectly normal) then the media started to speculate crazy things. So even though Michael told everyone that he only had certain surgeries done the media still began to speculate.



p.s. sorry if my post doesnt make much sense. its been a long day already for me.  :)
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@Crescendo.. i agree with you.  And after all, if we believe MJ has hoaxed his death then we are believing that MJ has told the biggest lie of all.
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:evil:  i hate this subject!  as far as im concerned he did not have many surgeries. to me he looks the same now as he did early ninties late eighties jmo!! he looks just like,well, absolutely brilliant when he is caught off guard ie no make up or stuff yet when he is deliberately out and about for all to see there is times that he seems "off" [2000/2001]  i came to the conclusion he must do something to himself none surgical jmo, to appear in a certain way at these times for whatever reasons cos he looks absolutely fine in normal circumstances like out shopping or court pics sorry for ranting JMO
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Actually in the book of J. Randy Taraborrelli he mentions something that could be plausible . He discard all of the rumours saying that Michael lost his nose and all of this BS tabloid told about losing his nose ! that's ridiculous  :D
I'll read the passage if you want

"The truth is that the structure of Michael's nose collapsed years ago, a consequence of extensive trauma from previous surgeries on it.
One subsequent operation was to add cartilage into the tip,to support and reshape it.
However that procedure was not completely successful.Therefore when appearing in public,and often in private, Michael wears a latex appliance, a prosthetic nose tip, wich he camouflage with stage make-up[...]
In March 2003,Vanity Fair reported that without the prothesis Michael ressemble a "mummy with two nostrils holes" This is not true .Without the device his nose appear flatter , more blunt - not pointed "


I think that's the most plausible theory about it.It says that his nose was just a little flat so he wore a prosthetic tip , that's all right ?
Well either way that's not really important if he had 2 or 12 surgeries .
He looked good and he kept his inner self so we shouldn't care much about all of this  :D
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Actually in the book of J. Randy Taraborrelli he mentions something that could be plausible . He discard all of the rumours saying that Michael lost his nose and all of this BS tabloid told about losing his nose ! that's ridiculous  :D
I'll read the passage if you want

"The truth is that the structure of Michael's nose collapsed years ago, a consequence of extensive trauma from previous surgeries on it.
One subsequent operation was to add cartilage into the tip,to support and reshape it.
However that procedure was not completely successful.Therefore when appearing in public,and often in private, Michael wears a latex appliance, a prosthetic nose tip, wich he camouflage with stage make-up[...]
In March 2003,Vanity Fair reported that without the prothesis Michael ressemble a "mummy with two nostrils holes" This is not true .Without the device his nose appear flatter , more blunt - not pointed "


I think that's the most plausible theory about it.It says that his nose was just a little flat so he wore a prosthetic tip , that's all right ?
Well either way that's not really important if he had 2 or 12 surgeries .
He looked good and he kept his inner self so we shouldn't care much about all of this  :D

Sounds believeable. (not calling you a liar but I just saying that what taraborelli said sounds possible)
I've heard so many people say Michael had a prothetic nose. Ehhh.. Yeah I couldnt really believe that either.

All in all I mean I know there are some people who are not happy with their looks (me for instance and prolly most any human being on this earth. I, also, have been made fun of for my rather large and pointy boney nose) though I must say its a shame Michael felt unhappy about the way he looked. I mean he has always been gorgeous. I mean Handsome to every extent of the word. He didn't need anything done though I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder. but what I'm saying is he shouldnt have let others make him feel ugly. More than likely those who criticized him were just envious of his talent and handsomeness.

It always makes me sad to see him in the video Rock with you. because he was just so pure and seemed to be still so untouched by the bad people that he later came in contact with. even though Michael has been in the business since he was a young child, in that video he just was so wholesome and sweet. but then when Michael came in contact with money hungry greedy people I think Michael became a little less naive and maybe even bitter (listen to HIStory) and it saddens me so much. That is proof that Michael was normal with normal human emotions just as anyone else.

Sorry for my rant.
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I've heard so many people say Michael had a prothetic nose. Ehhh.. Yeah I couldnt really believe that either.

I think that he is trying to correct the people that said that Mike's whole nose prosthetic . He said that was just the tip , to even everything.
I don't know if he tell the truth or not but that seems plausible to me.
He also said a lot of good things about Michael and tried to stand up for him many times in the past , so I better trust him than any other journalist/writer.
But of course that's just my theory

And I agree with you about Rock with you.
I think that as a child and before all of his problems he had to be someone really pure. But after being betrayed he must have changed .
He always remained someone gentle but maybe more on the prudent side.
Being betrayed is so painful.Loneliness as well.
It just eat you up
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I've heard so many people say Michael had a prothetic nose. Ehhh.. Yeah I couldnt really believe that either.

I think that he is trying to correct the people that said that Mike's whole nose prosthetic . He said that was just the tip , to even everything.
I don't know if he tell the truth or not but that seems plausible to me.
He also said a lot of good things about Michael and tried to stand up for him many times in the past , so I better trust him than any other journalist/writer.
But of course that's just my theory

And I agree with you about Rock with you.
I think that as a child and before all of his problems he had to be someone really pure. But after being betrayed he must have changed .
He always remained someone gentle but maybe more on the prudent side.
Being betrayed is so painful.Loneliness as well.
It just eat you up


yeah yeah thats what i meant. alot of people said Michaels entire nose was fake. I'm like seriously? :roll:  So yeah I guess the tip sounds believable.
all i say is its hurts me that Mj felt unhappy with his looks because he was Handsome all over. In and out.
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yeah yeah thats what i meant. alot of people said Michaels entire nose was fake. I'm like seriously?  So yeah I guess the tip sounds believable.
all i say is its hurts me that Mj felt unhappy with his looks because he was Handsome all over. In and out.

Well when someone is at the top there a lot of people who can't bear it
Thoses stupid journalist as well  :D
I agree with you . How come he didn't know he was handsome from the very beginning .
I love him best in Bad era, but I think that man really has potential . He is such a cutie.
Come on who could be as handsome as him as 50 years old ?
It really make me laugh when people bash him because of his face
Let's see when they'll hit the 50 years old then they can talk
Seriously  :evil:
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yeah yeah thats what i meant. alot of people said Michaels entire nose was fake. I'm like seriously?  So yeah I guess the tip sounds believable.
all i say is its hurts me that Mj felt unhappy with his looks because he was Handsome all over. In and out.

Well when someone is at the top there a lot of people who can't bear it
Thoses stupid journalist as well  :D
I agree with you . How come he didn't know he was handsome from the very beginning .
I love him best in Bad era, but I think that man really has potential . He is such a cutie.
Come on who could be as handsome as him as 50 years old ?
It really make me laugh when people bash him because of his face
Let's see when they'll hit the 50 years old then they can talk
Seriously  :evil:


Yeah Michael before or after surgery is probably one of the very FEW handsome men. I mean not many men have alot of handsome features altogether like Michael. Michael has an a handsome face with handsome facial features, nice hands, nice body all slender and tall yet very masculine. Very few men can say they have those things. So Michael was a man who did not need surgery. but im sure envious people made him feel bad.

OH YES. MICHAEL IN THE BAD ERA. HE DRIVES ME BONKERS with those chains and belts. and that part in his hair.

sorry dont mean to get all teenybopper here.
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Yeah Michael before or after surgery is probably one of the very FEW handsome men. I mean not many men have alot of handsome features altogether like Michael. Michael has an a handsome face with handsome facial features, nice hands, nice body all slender and tall yet very masculine. Very few men can say they have those things. So Michael was a man who did not need surgery. but im sure envious people made him feel bad.

OH YES. MICHAEL IN THE BAD ERA. HE DRIVES ME BONKERS with those chains and belts. and that part in his hair.

sorry dont mean to get all teenybopper here.

I guess that he was blinded at some moment , All thos people watching all of his moves like he is some rat from labotary(bad grammar here ?)I'm talking about the tabloids , they were hunting him literally . He must have felt unconfortable .
I can understant that he must have been blinded .And often people don't even see themselves like they really are .

And for your opinion about Bad era...I know what you mean very well ^^
Cute men all in black just drive me crazy so I understand so much what you mean  :D
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I also clearly remember MJ saying he only had two surgeries on his nose.  He did have surgery to help him breathe better.  It must be common because I know of two people that have had to have second nose surgeries because of breathing problems.  I don't think there is much difference between picture one and picture two and the third doesn't look real, almost doctored. I believe I heard that he also had that chin implant but had it removed.  I believe him if he says he only had two.  We don't hear too much about Joan Rivers, Pricilla Presley, Kenny Rogers, etc. and they have had bad plastic surgery and by the looks of it, far more than Michael.  I think Michael looked great in 2007...that was only a little over 2 years ago?  hello - what happened in 2 years?  We also need to remember when we look at pictures that he used many doubles.  I was just looking in another area and the picture they were using as comparison was a double.
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I'm not quite sure why Michael was such a target of all these plastic surgery rumors more so than any other celeb.  I do think it is partially because Michael did want this bizarre image made of himself (starting with the pic of him in a burn chamber) becuase he wanted to keep himself in the headlines. So i think the media took advantage of all that.

I remember when the media was saying and Michael addressed it himself (in the full Bashir doc) that they were saying how Michael had each individual whisker hair individuallly planted into his face. and Michael was completely stunned by the fact that he thought the media didnt think he could grow his own facial hair.

I must say that that was a bit ridiclous to say the least.

I just don't think Michael changed alot of his face as I have a addressed in the vitiligo-spots post.

The only I'm not sure about is how many surgeries he's had on his nose. But I know he didnt even need one.

I could stare at that man all day long.  ;) *teenybopper sigh*
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Yes I think he had a certain amount of plastic surgeries, but not as many as the medias say. They have exagerated a lot.
i dont think michael had loads of surgery either it realy gets to me when this is written all over the tabloids and who care i think he looked great for 50 i wouldnt look twice at a 50 year old man but with michael i would not stop looking or should i say i could not stop looking lol  ;)
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I have found this pic below.

Does this prove MJ had many plastic surgeries and that he was a chameleon in his appearance, which may be why many people think he used doubles?

Could this picture give credence to the stories that MJ in the morgue had no nose, and used a prosthetic nose?  Is this the reason there was a closed casket?

Just trying to throw a few theories out there.    :roll:

Ive added two pictures:  one which clearly shows MJ with a weirdly shaped nose, and one that compares his looks between the decades.
i really dont see a difference except the fact HE'S OLDER. gosh im so sick of people saying he had so much surgery, he had his nose and cleft chin THAT'S IT gosh he still has the same eyes cheekbones and mouth he did when he was younger, but he's OLDER NOW , HE'S A GROWN OLDER MAN. it's called growing up, it happens i sure when you all grow up you will look different then you do now, the man was 50 gosh give it a rest, his face changed, I don;t look anything like i did when i was in elementary school, its called growing. get over it . gosh Pamela Anderson is all plastic that bitch ain't even real anymore lol and noone hounded her this much but they hound michael over his nose and chin jeezz leave the guy alone.
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I have found this pic below.

Does this prove MJ had many plastic surgeries and that he was a chameleon in his appearance, which may be why many people think he used doubles?

Could this picture give credence to the stories that MJ in the morgue had no nose, and used a prosthetic nose?  Is this the reason there was a closed casket?

Just trying to throw a few theories out there.    :roll:

Ive added two pictures:  one which clearly shows MJ with a weirdly shaped nose, and one that compares his looks between the decades.
i really dont see a difference except the fact HE'S OLDER. gosh im so sick of people saying he had so much surgery, he had his nose and cleft chin THAT'S IT gosh he still has the same eyes cheekbones and mouth he did when he was younger, but he's OLDER NOW , HE'S A GROWN OLDER MAN. it's called growing up, it happens i sure when you all grow up you will look different then you do now, the man was 50 gosh give it a rest, his face changed, I don;t look anything like i did when i was in elementary school, its called growing. get over it . gosh Pamela Anderson is all plastic that bitch ain't even real anymore lol and noone hounded her this much but they hound michael over his nose and chin jeezz leave the guy alone.

Applause Applause Applause ! As far as this being a reason for a closed casket....it wouldnt -they can make anything and anyone look like a million for their casket,so nothing about that story fits. Michael got older,he changed his hair,he wore make-up and his looks changed. I believe him and I am sure he had more to remember and worry about then answering that question a thousand times a year. I honestly wanted to delete this thread when it first started ,it has nothing to do with the hoax and is just a place for theorizing wether or not he was real....well 2 months later you still dont have an answer. I am locking it ,it serves no purpose.
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