MAKE THAT CHANGE!

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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 12:29:20 PM
I was about to make the post Souza. Thank you. I'm so excited. This is such an amazing plan! :)

Here's what Badkolo posted and I think it is such a great idea. But still we can continue to talk here about where we can make the donations and who would like to join etc. Pls tell me what you guys think about Badkolo's idea. :)


Quote from: "badkolo"
We can open a Sub Site, There can be a main header/gfx/description etc..
Then a signature list. Each person that donates gets there Name on the Army of L.O.V.E list. The list will be only for the ones that donated.
A specific charity or foundation can be chosen, legaly easier to choose one specific charity or foundation that is verified.
The money that is donated which can be 1 dollar and beyond will go into a special escrow foundation.charity account. It will be overseen by The Escrow company so no Hanky panky can happen in any way and no legal issues can be brought.
Once the Goal is achieved at whatever number that is set(ie, $5000) from the donations which will be shown on top of the signatures then the escrow will announce that money has been sent to the charity/foundation everyone chose to donate to. then a new charity can be chosen from that point on and it just continues.

What ya think.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 12:43:30 PM
Yes, we must organize

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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 12:49:12 PM
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Yes, we must organize

Badkolo's idea is amazing! :)
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
Hi!

Can you please add Hannah Orphanage in Ethiopia to this list as well:
http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14100#p239207

There is a website and officially registered charity set-up in the UK - donations can be made via paypal.

http://http://hannasorphanage.org.uk/

With L.O.V.E

PS: Agree with Souza - People need to be given the time to contribute to the thread --- One needs not to assume that SILENCE means NOT INTERESTED, it may mean BUSY!
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 01:10:40 PM
If it's a good idea PureLove ;)

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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 01:12:08 PM
I want to make a change! 'Silence' for me so far meant mulling things over and busy! It's right that we should actually start DOING something as a group, so thank you to PureLove for starting the ball rolling and to everyone else who's given suggestions so far.

I agree with Souza that we need to think this through and be clear of our intentions. I'll be honest and say that I'm unsure if our ideas so far point to our aim being to reach the masses re Michael in some way, or whether we are simply coming together as a group to start making charitable donations. Or maybe it's both! Having discussions here and on the TIAI 11/3 and 11/4 threads isn't necessarily helpful to time pushed members! Could we look at keeping all the discussions in one place? (Please!)

Personally, I think we should start simply - if we try too much at once things will be watered down as there's only so much that any of us can do, both in terms of money and time.

I favour choosing just one or two charities that we all agree on, to start with, until we see how it works out, and donating as per Badkolo's suggestion. I'd personally just want to look into Escrow first, to be happy that this would be a safe way for the donations to be handled, as I know nothing about it.  Badkolo, or anyone, have you any experience of using it already?

One more thing (for now!), I don't like the idea of having names on a 'donation list' - that's akin to naming and shaming those who aren't participating, or naming and praising those who are. I would personally prefer to do this quietly and anonymously.

Love you all! xx
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 01:26:05 PM

Cross post from the TIAI 11/03 thread:


Quote from: "*Mo*"

PureLove, I'm excited and happy as well about this positive development as well as I understand and share your enthusiasm but...let's take one step at the time.  Remember, Rome wasn't built in one day either.  ;)

This whole new turn needs to be looked into, worked out and a plan has to be created.  If we just rush into things the chance of not succeeding is big, and that's something we wouldn't want.  Failing or a messy action would harm the initiative.  We can only start this once, so I strongly suggest we first create a solid foundation to start from.

I want to add that if someone wants to take the initiative to run a website for all this, I am fully prepared to design a website for it, at no costs of course.  If desired, I will provide a fully functioning website, but the initiator will have to take care of the updates him/herself.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 01:56:43 PM
It's an awesome idea pureLove, it's a high time to turn words into action, i'm gonna visit an orphanage very soon and help the kids as much as i can.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 03:30:18 PM
I go on a website called Care2 and I would love it if more people go on it. There is a click to donate feature where all you have to do to give to charities is click. It lists their sponsers that make this happen. Care2 also has articles, petitions and lots of other things to help make the world a better place. I really recommend it x
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 04, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
@PureLove & others who wanna make that change

Very good idea, I'll support you.

When the WANNAMAKETHATCHANGE Fund is running, I'll try to collect more from family and friends. Next week I'll do Fundraising for a UN-organization. It's all for L.O.V.E.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 05, 2010, 12:50:36 AM
Thank you so much for all of your participation. Did you guys read what Badkolo write? I think a new web-page is going to be created for us to meet up and start making the donations in a safe way. But I don't know when it is going to be done and by who. And there will be a list and your names are going to be on that list if I didn't get it wrong. I read some of you do not want to have the names on the donation list in which Badkolo mentioned. Do you guys want to wait till the new web-site is created or do you want to keep on talking about the donation issue here and try to spread the news to other members of the forum? We're not in a rush, so no need to worry about that. We're just sharing where to and how to begin.

We have RunningGirl here who made the donation before, so I think she can help us about the issue. It depends on what you guys think but just let me know about it pls. And here's the new list of the orphanages that we can make our first donation to:


1- http://www.centerofhope-haiti.org/
2- http://www.haitichildren.com/
3- http://www.helphaitinow.org/
4- http://www.zimbabweorphanageproject.org/
5- http://www.healtheworldfoundation.org/members/htwf
6- http://www.wish.org/help/donate
7- http://www.charitywater.org/
8- http://www.ffcin.org/
9- http://hannasorphanage.org.uk/
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 05, 2010, 01:49:40 AM
Quote from: "curls"
I want to make a change! 'Silence' for me so far meant mulling things over and busy! It's right that we should actually start DOING something as a group, so thank you to PureLove for starting the ball rolling and to everyone else who's given suggestions so far.

I agree with Souza that we need to think this through and be clear of our intentions. I'll be honest and say that I'm unsure if our ideas so far point to our aim being to reach the masses re Michael in some way, or whether we are simply coming together as a group to start making charitable donations. Or maybe it's both! Having discussions here and on the TIAI 11/3 and 11/4 threads isn't necessarily helpful to time pushed members! Could we look at keeping all the discussions in one place? (Please!)

Personally, I think we should start simply - if we try too much at once things will be watered down as there's only so much that any of us can do, both in terms of money and time.

I favour choosing just one or two charities that we all agree on, to start with, until we see how it works out, and donating as per Badkolo's suggestion. I'd personally just want to look into Escrow first, to be happy that this would be a safe way for the donations to be handled, as I know nothing about it.  Badkolo, or anyone, have you any experience of using it already?

One more thing (for now!), I don't like the idea of having names on a 'donation list' - that's akin to naming and shaming those who aren't participating, or naming and praising those who are. I would personally prefer to do this quietly and anonymously.

Love you all! xx


DearCurls, thanks for posting these thoughts which echo my own on this subject - especially the part about keeping donations anonymous.  This has always been Michael's way of doing it and I think we should follow his example.

I applaud everyone's enthusiasm and all the wonderful suggestions, and I too believe it's time to put our faith into action.  However, rather than jump in boots and all, I think the slow and steady approach is the best way to go.  Once we have a cohesive plan of action up and running, it will be easier to draw others in.  Some people need  very little time to become enthused, and then there are others who need to "warm" to an idea and give it a lot of time and reflection.

We all have our own unique gifts and talents and ways we can put them into action, either individually or as a collective group.  Being encouraged to share these gifts and talents is the key to the success of this venture.  People can do amazing things with a little praise and encouragement.  I hope the encouragers amongst us will join forces and get behind the ones who are great at organising and making things happen.  It's all about teamwork and not letting anyone feel left out or inadequate.  That's why the slow and steady approach will reap the best results IMO.

Thank you Mo & Souza for making a separate forum for charities - a tangible way we can put LOVE into action.  I hope we really can COME TOGETHER and make small changes to begin with that will have a ripple effect all over the planet.  I love all my fellow soldiers on this amazing journey  :D
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 05, 2010, 02:15:09 PM
Great job guys as always!
Forgive me if my idea is stupid because I do not know if and how it can be done, but I was thinking if we make it as easy as possible on how to donate so even those who come here just to read will be encouraged to contribute. For example, you can create "sms solidarity" and "contribution from a land line" so even those without the availability of cash or those who are not able to make payments online or can not do it so they too can participate in
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: November 05, 2010, 11:34:09 PM
Ok, so what do we do? Are we going to wait till the new web-page created? Some of you say that you don't want your names to be seen on the donation list. I don't know if we can find a solution to this. I think to be anonymous is way so much better too. Are there any volunteers to create the web-page? Or is the new section of the Charities of this forum is enough for us? Need your opinions guys.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 29, 2010, 01:36:48 AM
Looks like this thread died on Nov 7! I just now got around to reading up in this section and making my own posts. I'm not sure if I was suppose to start a new thread about the site I wanted to support or if it is suppose to be put in this list or??? Anyhow I vote for  http://feedathousand.org/wp/ to be added to the list! Thanks and what IS happening with the Charity list donation by the group thing? I liked Badkolo's idea, and I also liked the water charity alot! Maybe if I keep reading I'll find out where this thread has gone too?! LOL!!
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 29, 2010, 05:28:15 PM
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Looks like this thread died on Nov 7! I just now got around to reading up in this section and making my own posts. I'm not sure if I was suppose to start a new thread about the site I wanted to support or if it is suppose to be put in this list or??? Anyhow I vote for  http://feedathousand.org/wp/ to be added to the list! Thanks and what IS happening with the Charity list donation by the group thing? I liked Badkolo's idea, and I also liked the water charity alot! Maybe if I keep reading I'll find out where this thread has gone too?! LOL!!

We are working on a site, http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com

It's on hold for a few weeks, because I am moving into my new apartment, but will work on it again when I am settled. Here is the thread about the site: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=15712

New ideas are always very welcome!
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 29, 2010, 08:02:48 PM
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Looks like this thread died on Nov 7! I just now got around to reading up in this section and making my own posts. I'm not sure if I was suppose to start a new thread about the site I wanted to support or if it is suppose to be put in this list or??? Anyhow I vote for  http://feedathousand.org/wp/ to be added to the list! Thanks and what IS happening with the Charity list donation by the group thing? I liked Badkolo's idea, and I also liked the water charity alot! Maybe if I keep reading I'll find out where this thread has gone too?! LOL!!

We are working on a site, http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com

It's on hold for a few weeks, because I am moving into my new apartment, but will work on it again when I am settled. Here is the thread about the site: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=15712

New ideas are always very welcome!
Thank You very much Souza! This helps!  :P
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 29, 2010, 08:26:21 PM
I'm listening and I'm willing to donate.  Are we going to choose a single charity?  Will this be an annual undertaking? That way we could make more of an impact.  Just an idea, but I'm down with it whatever we decide.   Since the death of my son, I have always provided temporary shelter for displaced  boys in my home.  Girls always have places willing to accommodate them, but boys are treated like 2nd class citizens.  Did you know that battered women's shelters do not allow boys over age 14 to go in with their mothers?  Girls can, but not the boys.  That is heart breaking.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 30, 2010, 06:20:16 AM
Yesterday i visited an orphanage with a lot of presents for the kids living there, it may seem a trifle for  some but it is the first big change that i've made, it is really very huge for me, Michael has inspired me to do so, they were so happy and excited, at that moment i  felt really happy.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 30, 2010, 06:26:13 AM
God bless you MM!
It's not about presents, it's about noticing them at all and giving them your time and attention.
Imagine how you would feel having lost your parents, being left alone, and nobody is even noticing you or your tremendous loss.
It's being there that makes a change and gives a smile back.
Have a wonderful new year, MM!
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: December 30, 2010, 06:33:59 AM
Grace thank u so much for your wonderful words, i can feel their pain cause  i've lost my parents when i was  a teenager, and i know how it is when u've lost those who were an entire world for you, from now on i'll visit them and bring them as much happiness as i can, God bless you dear and Happy New Year!
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: January 05, 2011, 12:38:44 PM
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I'm listening and I'm willing to donate.  Are we going to choose a single charity?  Will this be an annual undertaking? That way we could make more of an impact.  Just an idea, but I'm down with it whatever we decide.   Since the death of my son, I have always provided temporary shelter for displaced  boys in my home.  Girls always have places willing to accommodate them, but boys are treated like 2nd class citizens.  Did you know that battered women's shelters do not allow boys over age 14 to go in with their mothers?  Girls can, but not the boys.  That is heart breaking.

I'm so sorry to hear about your son. :( In my opinion we should choose different charities everytime. That was the reason why I asked if you guys had any ideas where we can donate. And we made a list where we can donate. As soon as the web-page is done, we will start doing it all together. Many thanks again to Souza for making the new page for us all. God bless all of you.
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: January 05, 2011, 01:16:19 PM
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Re: MAKE THAT CHANGE!

  • on: January 15, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
i love this new thread. i think helping children is so important. I used to work in the entertainments industry and loved the whole life style and the job but on the day that i thought we lost MJ i had a good hard look at my life and what i had done and wanted to be more like MJ and help people.

I now work with children who are in care, Through neglect or abuse and although its difficult i hope one day i can make that change. I have even turned a few into Mj fans lol.

We really should be helping the children of the world and giving them hope xx
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