Why the stains?

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Offline Ninanina

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Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 07:17:12 AM
Hi!

I noticed, that Michael's clothes were more than once dusty, when he came out of Doctor Klein's office.
That and the stains on his trousers at TII made me wonder.

Why those stains? Why does the biggest star on earth go into the paparazzi crowd with a stained shirt?
Although in one occasion his make up artist was with him?
What are those stains? Make up/powder?





And that's him with his recent make up artist Ruska Bergman( ? something like that name)
He probably has no shirt on, because it was dirty from his doctor's visit with the same outfit.
Also wonder, why he got back to Karen Faye, as he and Ruska seemed to have a very close relationship...

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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 07:53:45 AM
Oh, yes...i've noticed those stains too. I'm sure his clothes are not dirty , it's just powder or make-up . I couldn't imagine he would ever wear dirty clothes !
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 10:11:18 AM
IDK, but damn he looks good :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 10:18:42 AM
everytime I look at this last photo, I have a real bad feeling. he is SO skinny that it is scary.
I don't know about the stains..he always cared so much about his appearence..it is weird. :?
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 10:21:36 AM
i noticed those stain too but, i assume its make-up. what else could it be? Maybe he had a dust/talcum powder fight before the pics were taken??
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: "larab"
everytime I look at this last photo, I have a real bad feeling. he is SO skinny that it is scary.
I don't know about the stains..he always cared so much about his appearence..it is weird. :?


I AGREE 100%..It is pretty scary to see how skinny he is..Whenever he is, I hope he is gaining weight. :(
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 10:40:29 AM
I don't know why his clothes are dusty. :?  It is possible if he uses a mineral vail/finishing powder, if the person that does his makesup doesn't get the excess powder off the brush, it could get on his shirt. I use a makeup line that's all powder(mineral) and I sometimes get make up on my shirt. I can't think of another reason for the dust on his shirt. :?
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 11:34:40 AM
if that's his make up artist, they look REALLY close to each other hmmm  :?
And baout the stains, it looks like powder to me. Michael is a slim guy always. But hope he gains some weight.
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 11:38:42 AM
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if that's his make up artist, they look REALLY close to each other hmmm  :?
And baout the stains, it looks like powder to me. Michael is a slim guy always. But hope he gains some weight.
YES... REALLY CLOSE... :twisted:
BUT WHY SHE HAVE THE JACKET?
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 11:47:01 AM
For the jacket both have the same size, apparently.
Black clothes are difficult to wash and kept them well, hehehe!
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 12:38:47 PM
Dang! Was that his girlfriend? Well I dont know lets see what we can find on her. I did not know MJ had a new makeup artist! I always thought it was Karen Faye! When was this picture taken? I am sooooo jealous! :o  :o
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 01:08:03 PM
She is/was his stylist.. it's not the thriller jacket, but a  Balmain jacket.. It's actually hers. He's wearing her clothes. :) She did an interview not to long ago, I have no clue where I read it.
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 01:08:29 PM
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I hate to say it but dirty stained clothing like these does support the claims of him indeed with a dependacy on drugs etc or something wrong healthwise.

Don't agree.

The horizontal light marks on a black shirt do happen when pulling a t-shirt over your head and you have powder on your face. You cannot avoid it except when pulling the neck out first (and most people would never do that).

It seems that Michael was quite normal like you and me and I am SOOOO glad about it.
Remember the dirty hand at O2 announcement with some black smear on it. Must have been the cart or something backstage. I like this. Puts a wide wide smile into my face. ;-)
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: "ibelieve8"
She is/was his stylist.. it's not the thriller jacket, but a  Balmain jacket.. It's actually hers. He's wearing her clothes. :) She did an interview not to long ago, I have no clue where I read it.
THRILLER JACKET!!!
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
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Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
I hate to say it but dirty stained clothing like these does support the claims of him indeed with a dependacy on drugs etc or something wrong healthwise.

Don't agree.

The horizontal light marks on a black shirt do happen when pulling a t-shirt over your head and you have powder on your face. You cannot avoid it except when pulling the neck out first (and most people would never do that).

It seems that Michael was quite normal like you and me and I am SOOOO glad about it.
Remember the dirty hand at O2 announcement with some black smear on it. Must have been the cart or something backstage. I like this. Puts a wide wide smile into my face. ;-)

But there's also a pic, where his trousers are stained as well. Not from the rehearsals, but from the doctor'S.

Found it.
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:29:28 PM
It's odd what one person notices versus what another notices. I had no idea about the various stains until they were pointed out by others.

I was focusing more and noticed the make up and hair. MJ has  worn make up for years. MJ has worn wigs and weaves for years. In past years and in other pictures, his hair and makeup are flawless and near perfection. The wigs never looked thick and "wiggy" and the make up looked very natural and not like pancake.  The make up and wig in these pics  do not look nearly as polished as what we're accustomed to seeing from MJ.
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
on the old forum we had increased pictures of the O2 conference
Michael had his whole clothes fully of this Flecken .... somebody has the enlarged O2 picture? Or if it can increase somebody again please....: P Please, Please, Please
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:31:50 PM
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It's odd what one person notices versus what another notices. I had no idea about the various stains until they were pointed out by others.

I was focusing more and noticed the make up and hair. MJ has  worn make up for years. MJ has worn wigs and weaves for years. In past years and in other pictures, his hair and makeup are flawless and near perfection. The wigs never looked thick and "wiggy" and the make up looked very natural and not like pancake.  The make up and wig in these pics  do not look nearly as polished as what we're accustomed to seeing from MJ.

True! He worked with Ruska Bergman during the last two years, but changed back to Karen Faye.
When did Karen start working for him again?
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:38:10 PM
I feel its his make up because these arent the only times Michael had problem or stains from his makeup my computer is Down so I can't post pictures but 1 example can b found during the MTV awards in 1995 while he was performing dangerous i guess the sweat from his hands made the make up easier to come off cuz wen he slapped his leg it looked like a make up stain was left.......so MJ is never dirty his make up just causes malfunctions imo....he's human these things happen sheesh lol.....btw he looks Hawt ;-)
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:38:51 PM
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True! He worked with Ruska Bergman during the last two years, but changed back to Karen Faye.
When did Karen start working for him again?

I thought Ruska Bergan was only his stylist - was she responsible for his hair and makeup too? So Ruska was the one  who put Micheal in girls clothes ( all the balmain stuff we've seen him in this year womens wear). I'm not saying Mike doesn't pull off the Balmain look cos he does but, i'm confused!
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:51:30 PM
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I hate to say it but dirty stained clothing like these does support the claims of him indeed with a dependacy on drugs etc or something wrong healthwise. Either that or a depressive state which makes you not too worried about certain things regarding your appearance. Beats me why no-one made him aware but then how many people would have dared to be honest with Michael and say "hey Mike, your clothes are dirty!" I don't know about other members but these photo's are quite disturbing to me. I have never in all these years seen MJ in dirty clothing-even when his children were tots- we all know how messy little ones can be but he was never seen or photographed like this.

I agree..
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:57:13 PM
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Quote from: "Ninanina"

True! He worked with Ruska Bergman during the last two years, but changed back to Karen Faye.
When did Karen start working for him again?

I thought Ruska Bergan was only his stylist - was she responsible for his hair and makeup too? So Ruska was the one  who put Micheal in girls clothes ( all the balmain stuff we've seen him in this year womens wear). I'm not saying Mike doesn't pull off the Balmain look cos he does but, i'm confused!

Haha - I don't know! Maybe he liked her clothes so much, that he wore them!  :D
I think youre right - she was his stylist, not his make up artist.
Here's her interview again - I like the way she speaks about him:
http://www.mj-upbeat.com/RUSKABERGMANTh ... ackson.htm
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Re: Why the stains?

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:58:21 PM
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She is/was his stylist.. it's not the thriller jacket, but a  Balmain jacket.. It's actually hers. He's wearing her clothes. :) She did an interview not to long ago, I have no clue where I read it.

there was a thread on this ^^ with a link attached!! she said Michael took to her cos he seen she wasn't fake / after his money and was a genuine person!! she didn't say they was together she was his stylist!!
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