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Sarahli

Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 08:59:21 AM
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A good disinformer generated noise, a lot of talk but little substance left to make profits. And this makes Alex Jones ....

Not to mention that it comes from a wealthy Texas oil family and not forgetting that this person, allegedly snuck into the Bohemian Groove and went unnoticed, but not only that ... managed to videotape the burning of a living Person influential people of the country while shouting ... really is as easy as sneaking account there? nobody really realizes that they are not in that group? please! And also ... many of the true heroes have died or are imprisoned for less ... and he recorded it and continue as if nothing? and ... and ...

Yes people have been eliminated for less than that. Now I wonder why did "they" want us to know that they have satanic rituals...I mean it's insane to worship a giant owl and kill people for 'it'...sometimes I don't get it.
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 09:26:11 AM
To Lie or not to lie...
(psychology and propaganda)

Big Lie - A propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, for a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously." A lie which attempts to trick the victim into believing something major which will likely be contradicted by some information the victim already possesses, or by their common sense. When the lie is of sufficient magnitude it may succeed due to the victim's reluctance to believe that an untruth on such a grand scale would indeed be fabricated.

Careful Speaking- Careful speaking is distinct from the above in that the speaker wishes to avoid imparting certain information or admitting certain facts and, additionally, does not want to 'lie' when doing so. Careful speaking involves using carefully-phrased statements to give a 'half-answer': one that does not actually 'answer' the question, but still provides an appropriate (and accurate) answer based on that question. As with 'misleading',  'careful speaking' is not outright lying.

Contextual Lie - One can state part of the truth out of context, knowing that without complete information, it gives a false impression. Likewise, one can actually state accurate facts, yet deceive with them. To say "yeah, that's right, I ate all the white chocolate, by myself" utilizing a sarcastic, offended tone, may cause the listener to assume the speaker did not mean what he said, when in fact he did.

Economical with the Truth is popularly used as a euphemism for deceit, whether by volunteering false information (i.e., lying) or by deliberately holding back relevant facts. More literally, it describes a careful use of facts so as not to reveal too much information.

Exaggeration - (or hyperbole) occurs when the most fundamental aspects of a statement are true, but only to a certain degree. It is also seen as "stretching the truth" or making something appear more powerful, meaningful, or real than it actually is.

Fabrication - is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth. Examples of fabrication: A person giving directions to a tourist when the person doesn't actually know the directions. Often propaganda is classified as a fabrication.

Lying by Omission - is omitting an important fact (s), deliberately leaving another person with a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct pre-existing misconceptions. An example is when the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a fault was reported at the last service. Propaganda is an example of lying by omission.

Misleading/Dissembling - A misleading statement is one where there is no outright lie, but still retains the purpose of getting someone to believe in an untruth. "Dissembling" likewise describes the presentation of facts in a way that is literally true, but intentionally misleading.

Noble Lie - is one that would normally cause discord if uncovered, but offers some benefit to the liar and assists in an orderly society, therefore, potentially beneficial to others. It is often told to maintain law, order and safety.

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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 09:42:09 AM
Thanks Serenity. Now I still don't really know what it was all for. Maybe to see if people would react? Seems like nodoby cares if their leaders worship an owl and sacrifices human beings for it because nothing happened be it true or not. I feel that they are so self-confident, they feel so powerful that they just don't care sometimes. And in a way they were right because nobody says a thing about it. People would just be ridiculed if they exposed this subject publicly. Seems so unbelievable isn't it? Maybe that it wasn't a lie for once...but nobody cares after all...
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 10:03:46 AM
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Thanks Serenity. Now I still don't really know what it was all for. Maybe to see if people would react? Seems like nodoby cares if their leaders worship an owl and sacrifices human beings for it because nothing happened be it true or not. I feel that they are so self-confident, they feel so powerful that they just don't care sometimes. And in a way they were right because nobody says a thing about it. People would just be ridiculed if they exposed this subject publicly. Seems so unbelievable isn't it? Maybe that it wasn't a lie for once...but nobody cares after all...
I think the point is to make it seem so outrageous that the majority of people are like "there is no way that this could be true" and thus by extension anyone who believes that their is an NWO, elite group, Illuminati etc must be "crazy and deluding themselves".

Combine this perceived outrageousness with further fabrication, omission, exaggeration, economy, and context with a loud mouthed, out of control Alex Jones and you just created a cover for the truth. The truth won't be believed because it is masked behind propaganda and psychological techniques and those trying to bring the truth to light will be seen as "Alex Jones" types. So the truth is discredited and hidden in plain sight.
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
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Thanks Serenity. Now I still don't really know what it was all for. Maybe to see if people would react? Seems like nodoby cares if their leaders worship an owl and sacrifices human beings for it because nothing happened be it true or not. I feel that they are so self-confident, they feel so powerful that they just don't care sometimes. And in a way they were right because nobody says a thing about it. People would just be ridiculed if they exposed this subject publicly. Seems so unbelievable isn't it? Maybe that it wasn't a lie for once...but nobody cares after all...
I think the point is to make it seem so outrageous that the majority of people are like "there is no way that this could be true" and thus by extension anyone who believes that their is an NWO, elite group, Illuminati etc must be "crazy and deluding themselves".

Combine this perceived outrageousness with further fabrication, omission, exaggeration, economy, and context with a loud mouthed, out of control Alex Jones and you just created a cover for the truth. The truth won't be believed because it is masked behind propaganda and psychological techniques and those trying to bring the truth to light will be seen as "Alex Jones" types. So the truth is discredited and hidden in plain sight.

Exactly yes.
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 10:43:10 AM
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Combine this perceived outrageousness with further fabrication, omission, exaggeration, economy, and context with a loud mouthed, out of control Alex Jones and you just created a cover for the truth. The truth won't be believed because it is masked behind propaganda and psychological techniques and those trying to bring the truth to light will be seen as "Alex Jones" types. So the truth is discredited and hidden in plain sight.

I am somewhat reminded of another hmmmm...
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 11:24:22 AM
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The truth won't be believed because it is masked behind propaganda and psychological techniques and those trying to bring the truth to light will be seen as "Alex Jones" types. So the truth is discredited and hidden in plain sight.

Well said!

I only now watched the video with AJones flexing his muscle..  :roll:   Oh dear..
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 08, 2010, 11:40:20 AM
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The truth won't be believed because it is masked behind propaganda and psychological techniques and those trying to bring the truth to light will be seen as "Alex Jones" types. So the truth is discredited and hidden in plain sight.

Well said!

I only now watched the video with AJones flexing his muscle..  :roll:   Oh dear..
LMAO! He was flexing his arm?   :lol:  :lol:  :roll:
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
October 10, 2010, 03:58:51 AM
Alex Jones = MK Ultra Cointelpro
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
August 20, 2011, 08:47:37 PM
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And this one...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2gh6g3p9E&feature=related[/youtube]
You can puke after watching...

OMG!!!!!! It's burns me up for realz!!!!!  :evil:  :x

Pardon my language but who the hell is this loser?!?  :evil:  crash/
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
August 20, 2011, 09:52:27 PM
There are people who for much less than  have to say Alex Jones be dead
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August 20, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
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And this one...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2gh6g3p9E&feature=related[/youtube]
You can puke after watching...

OMG!!!!!! It's burns me up for realz!!!!!  :evil: :x

Pardon my language but who the hell is this loser?!?  :evil: crash/


Never seen this video (or this thread) before.  Very disgusting video.  Didn't know Alex Jones felt this way about MJ.  Thanks for reposting, PureLove.
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
August 21, 2011, 12:28:59 AM
haha...loser didn't even know the Hendrix lyrics are hey Joe not hey jude. disinformation agent indeed.
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
August 21, 2011, 01:08:12 AM
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haha...loser didn't even know the Hendrix lyrics are hey Joe not hey jude. disinformation agent indeed.

LOL, exactly what I was thinking.

I must say that I'm not very fond of Alex. His voice annoys the crap out of me and I am actually surprised that someone who claims to be so awake and aware, would say such things about a person he never met. Seems to me it's a racial thing. But his ignorant opinion about Mike and his annoying way of speaking aside, he does have good information here and there.
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Re: Is Alex Jones actually a dis-info agent?
August 21, 2011, 01:53:48 AM
For years if someone mentioned conspiracy theorists, Alex Jones' name would invariably come up. Like someone mentioned above, how could he so easily creep in and videotape the Bohemian Grove ceremonies without being caught, and I also remember him openly questioning riot police etc., where nothing bad would happen to him in response.  His rant about MJ, helps to discredit his other info for me, because obviously he didn't do any digging for truth before spewing out falsehood  :-[  Maybe he's friends with Sneddon and Dimond. He seems to have 2 purposes. One-- to represent wacky conspiracists to mainstream people who will then scoff at "conspiracy" alternative news. Two --to provide information that stops before really naming the true instigators or source of major troubles --Israel.

Sarahli, I liked your coment!
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Yes to me he is a disinfo agent. He never exposes the Jewish-Zionists connection to 9/11 for example, he only talks about the US GOV and insists on the Federal Reserve but actually never pinpoints to the real problem which is ISRA-HELL, he is married to a Jewish woman...and he even said that Muslims owned Hollywood...please! What he says about Michael is just DISGUSTING !!! I hate this guy, you Alex Jones are THE piece of GARBAGE!
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