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Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 07:52:39 AM
Original thread posted on MJKIT by looking4truth

Okay so this may be old news for some but I just discovered this so please forgive me for my eagerness to post this. I think there is a possibility that there were three folks as Michael Jackson and one of them, I believe, is the real thing.

The first MJ I'm going to point came towards the middle of the documentary.
Here's a clip:
[youtube:3turbp1v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkEDk2um2pY[/youtube:3turbp1v]

If you look at his eyes, it resembles this guy below:
[youtube:3turbp1v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWyE5KW-QqI[/youtube:3turbp1v]

Of course, this person may not be the same as the person I posted from the documentary but in any event, his eyes do appear to be different.

The second MJ, who I believe might be the real one, came in the beginning. I will point why I think the second and third one is different based on each one's comments on the mother of Blanket.
[youtube:3turbp1v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72JymfE1mbs[/youtube:3turbp1v]

Now, listen closely to what he says about Blanket's mother towards the end of the clip. You can start at 9:00.

The third MJ came at the end of the documentary with the final interview.

Here's a clip of the 3rd MJ:
[youtube:3turbp1v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ayBiLw4P8Y[/youtube:3turbp1v]

Now listen closely to what he says about Blanket's mother at 1:15.

In the beginning of the documentary, he is claiming that he knows and had a relationship with Blanket's mother. By the end, he claims that him and Blanket's mother do not know each other at all. Which one is it?

In addition, 3rd MJ says Blanket's mother is Black. Meanwhile, LaToya (who could very well be lying but you never know) says MJ told her Blanket's mother is Latino.

Lots of contradictions and inconsistencies. Similar to this whole death thing right?

I personally believe each MJ LOOKS different if you really pay close attention especially the 2nd and 3rd MJ. I know some time passed but I still think that is a pretty drastic change if you ask me. I could be wrong though. They can all be one MJ but I just can't help but be suspicious of this. He could have been tired of doing this documentary once he found out where it was going and decided to throw one of decoys and/or doubles out there.

I want to also point out that if there is a possibility of three MJs in one documentary then whose to say how many potential MJs there are in the movie, This is It. Poppa Joe may be right after all. Could this documentary have been a test to see which decoys/doubles would work for this big plan he had for the future?

What do you guys think? I would love feedback whether it's in agreement or not with my little theory.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 12:58:20 PM
Just like I've said on the old forum, I think it's Michael all the time  ;)
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
I also think that Mj looks different in the different parts of the documentary. I am not sure if it´s him all the time.
I just wonder if he wouldn´t have told his doubles what to answer on certain questions. Also, if Michael at the end of the documentary answers the question about Blanket´s mum differently..why? If it´s a double, shouldn´t he have known what was answered before?
Weird...
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 05:12:28 PM
yeah i think its all michael. it was captured within a span of 8 months right? so y'know his hair changes or maybe he uses new makeup or all that can make you look different. depression or exhaustion i think can be exhuded (sp?) from one's face or discontentment, obviously  :roll:

i wont rag on bashir because i did hear he is ill right now. but i did not like the interview.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 11:02:34 PM
Im still waiting on the blog mo :D  lol but anyone who seen the original post knows exactly how i feel.... :lol:
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 11:12:47 PM
I've said it before and I'm going to say it again (why not ? LOL !)
"third MJ" said he only had TWO SURGERIES. JUST THE NOSE. NO FACIAL / LIPS / EYES.

Now, tell me what do u think, gank..
What if...

WHAT IF...

HE IS THE REAL MICHAEL & HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH

We see lotta differences on each Mike's pics because those are doubles that we THOUGHT they are Michael !

The real Mike only had 2 nose surgeries.
During that interview he even said: I'M TELLING YOU THE HONEST TRUTH !
THIS IS THE HONEST TRUTH ! to Bashithead.
Well, what if he didn't lie to that bloody @$$hole ?

U know what I'm trying to say here ?
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 11:16:51 PM
Quote from: "Debbie Zebua"
I've said it before and I'm going to say it again (why not ? LOL !)
"third MJ" said he only had TWO SURGERIES. JUST THE NOSE. NO FACIAL / LIPS / EYES.

Now, tell me what do u think, gank..
What if...

WHAT IF...

HE IS THE REAL MICHAEL & HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH

We see lotta differences on each Mike's pics because those are doubles that we THOUGHT they are Michael !

The real Mike only had 2 nose surgeries.
During that interview he even said: I'M TELLING YOU THE HONEST TRUTH !
THIS IS THE HONEST TRUTH ! to Bashithead.
Well, what if he didn't lie to that bloody @$$hole ?

U know what I'm trying to say here ?

i honestly think that that is the real mike...and agree that there has only been 2 nose jobs :D
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 24, 2009, 11:33:10 PM
yeah yeah...mee too
the Bashithead interview were all Mike
he couldnt possibly send his double to do it

it's just that the differences people saw about him towards the year
maybe because it's not always MIKE who came out and face the paps
probably those were the doubles. Cute Mikey walk safely in the "background". LOL.

*oh dang ! i miss that cute emoticon with that funny wide mouth holding the sign LOL"




Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "Debbie Zebua"
I've said it before and I'm going to say it again (why not ? LOL !)
"third MJ" said he only had TWO SURGERIES. JUST THE NOSE. NO FACIAL / LIPS / EYES.

Now, tell me what do u think, gank..
What if...

WHAT IF...

HE IS THE REAL MICHAEL & HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH

We see lotta differences on each Mike's pics because those are doubles that we THOUGHT they are Michael !

The real Mike only had 2 nose surgeries.
During that interview he even said: I'M TELLING YOU THE HONEST TRUTH !
THIS IS THE HONEST TRUTH ! to Bashithead.
Well, what if he didn't lie to that bloody @$$hole ?

U know what I'm trying to say here ?

i honestly think that that is the real mike...and agree that there has only been 2 nose jobs :D
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 08:55:23 AM
I do agree that MJ did say he had two nose surgery that he could remember. Remember when that plastic surgeon partner stated that MJ had about 49 plastic surgeries. I feel that the double had the plastic surgeries. When I looked at the video, I did notice the changes MJ.  I do feel there was a double during the documentary.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: "misha86"
Im still waiting on the blog mo :D  lol but anyone who seen the original post knows exactly how i feel.... :lol:

I'm so sorry Misha, but so many things came up that we didn't had time to do it yet.  You most likely know that we don't post a blog just like that, we spend a lot of time on writing a good one, accompanied by good visual material.  So please have patience...
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 10:07:54 AM
I, too believe all three are MJ. He may have gained weight or lost some weight throughout the 8 months of filming. Different hair styles etc. I cant see why MJ would allow a fake to do the interview. He does look different, but hell, I dont look the same as I did 8 months ago.

As far as the comments on Blanket's mom....I think maybe he was just forgetting what he had said initially and said someting different the 2nd time not realizing what his response to the question the first time around. Does that make sense? LOL

The ONLY time I questioned if it was him was when he was sitting on the couch with Gavin.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 10:12:47 AM
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I, too believe all three are MJ. He may have gained weight or lost some weight throughout the 8 months of filming. Different hair styles etc. I cant see why MJ would allow a fake to do the interview. He does look different, but hell, I dont look the same as I did 8 months ago.

As far as the comments on Blanket's mom....I think maybe he was just forgetting what he had said initially and said someting different the 2nd time not realizing what his response to the question the first time around. Does that make sense? LOL

The ONLY time I questioned if it was him was when he was sitting on the couch with Gavin.

yeah me too. i have changed within an 8 month period. my hair changes as well as other things: my weight, my attitude (which i think can protrude out through the face)

can you imagine MJ? no offense to him (I LOVE him) but i think he tweaked his face. i dont believe he got cheek bone implants, forehead lift, etc. i just think he got the nose and cleft and then he just naturally changed over the years. so in a way when he altered his beautiful face i guess his face matured differently compared to someone who hasnt changed their face.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 01:23:01 PM
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Im still waiting on the blog mo :D  lol but anyone who seen the original post knows exactly how i feel.... :lol:

I'm so sorry Misha, but so many things came up that we didn't had time to do it yet.  You most likely know that we don't post a blog just like that, we spend a lot of time on writing a good one, accompanied by good visual material.  So please have patience...

looking forward to the blog  ;)
as for the michaels in the documentary, it sure looks like it, that there's more then one IMO ;)

i can only say, i like the idea very much!! lol
in the other topic(from the previous forum) i posted also more, but for now, this is all i'm gonna say about it...
IMO it sure looks like more then one... the pics also in one of the posts in that other tread! they look so different and that's only about their physicals...
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
Here´s a repost of the post with the pictures:

Posted by: Grace

Well IMO there have always been 2. Double or brother I cannot judge and it's not important.
The nose could have been remade to anybody by A. Klein.
The eyes form, the distances between lips, nose and eyebrows and to cheek bones make the differences IMO.

There is a Michael with doe's eyes:


(or as Souza and Mo said "asiatic" eyes)

and there is a Michael "handsome" with the more square chin (we know him from the angel pics and together with MLP)


And no, this did not happen within 8 months of recording - they were there all the time until June 2009:

roe eyes / small chin:


handsome:


roe eyes:








michael handsome:


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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 03:10:11 PM
thanks for posting mo ;)
well for me it really looks like two different people.
when i look at the eyes of the first two pics. the distance between teh eye and eyebrow is bigger at the first pic.
i don't the whole expression of the two seems different....

could be that i'm totally loosing it, but that's why i just asked my brother and he sees it also. so that means i'm still not totally nuts ;)
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: November 25, 2009, 03:20:19 PM
I can't help it, but I still think it's Michael on all the pictures.... :oops:
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 04, 2009, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Here´s a repost of the post with the pictures:

Posted by: Grace



There is a Michael with doe's eyes:


(or as Souza and Mo said "asiatic" eyes)

and there is a Michael "handsome" with the more square chin (we know him from the angel pics and together with MLP)


these are clearly 2 different people..im sorry :geek:  and yes i am waiting patiently for the blog mo and i kno you guys go all out with the visuals thats why im so exicted

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The ONLY time I questioned if it was him was when he was sitting on the couch with Gavin.


why that time? i havent watched the footage in awhile but i always thought him and "asiatic mj" were the same...lol
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 01:08:02 AM
All MJ except that goofy #2 who doesn't even remotely look like him.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 05:58:45 AM
Im having difficulties swallowing the idea that Michael would use imposters in interviews, have a secret twin and fool us for several years in a row. I really think some speculations are a bit far fetched but I dont blame you, this case makes question everything. In my opinion if Michael used doubles in the documentary my world would turn inside and out, because if that was the case then what else is a lie? Some say Michael is not the Michael we thought from the Bad era too. Well, I can only speak from what Ive seen and if I saw Michael dance, talk and sing from the Bad era times then thats the person I fell in love with, impersonator or real. I dont see what the point would be in using body doubles, if thats the case some of them made Michael look really bad (dangleing baby of balcony... telling two different versions of blanket baby mama.. ect..) Why would Michael put himself through that?

Im having a really hard time swallowing this theory. You may not feel so, but I would feel betrayed by Michael. Not only would my perception of Michael be a complete lie but so would his, if he has been living with a secret so called twin for 50 years of his life. I want to believe Michael is more honest than so. I can believe there was a double on O2, in the TII movie.. But his entire life? In interviews? I dont know. I dont want to think about it.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 04:32:42 PM
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Im having difficulties swallowing the idea that Michael would use imposters in interviews, have a secret twin and fool us for several years in a row. I really think some speculations are a bit far fetched but I dont blame you, this case makes question everything. In my opinion if Michael used doubles in the documentary my world would turn inside and out, because if that was the case then what else is a lie? Some say Michael is not the Michael we thought from the Bad era too. Well, I can only speak from what Ive seen and if I saw Michael dance, talk and sing from the Bad era times then thats the person I fell in love with, impersonator or real. I dont see what the point would be in using body doubles, if thats the case some of them made Michael look really bad (dangleing baby of balcony... telling two different versions of blanket baby mama.. ect..) Why would Michael put himself through that?

Im having a really hard time swallowing this theory. You may not feel so, but I would feel betrayed by Michael. Not only would my perception of Michael be a complete lie but so would his, if he has been living with a secret so called twin for 50 years of his life. I want to believe Michael is more honest than so. I can believe there was a double on O2, in the TII movie.. But his entire life? In interviews? I dont know. I dont want to think about it.

I totally know what you're saying. While I don't believe there was more than one Mj here in the doc, i think there is a possibility that Mj could have used decoys to move around. Such as his decoy would be at a shopping mall while Mj made it safely to his hotel without being mobbed. But i dont think he'd used a double for an interview. Just my thoughts I don't really have anything to base my opinion on.

tho this article was interesting but i think it was another hoax pulled by a radio station in germany
http://kdka.com/watercooler/fake.michae ... 18943.html


as for the idea that the thriller era michael and the bad-invincible michael being 2 different michael's, i dont think so. NO ONE can dance like Michael can. through the ages Michael has always been an amazing dancer. no one can copy that. not even the best of impersonators.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 04:50:36 PM
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I totally know what you're saying. While I don't believe there was more than one Mj here in the doc, i think there is a possibility that Mj could have used decoys to move around. Such as his decoy would be at a shopping mall while Mj made it safely to his hotel without being mobbed. But i dont think he'd used a double for an interview. Just my thoughts I don't really have anything to base my opinion on.

tho this article was interesting but i think it was another hoax pulled by a radio station in germany
http://kdka.com/watercooler/fake.michae ... 18943.html


as for the idea that the thriller era michael and the bad-invincible michael being 2 different michael's, i dont think so. NO ONE can dance like Michael can. through the ages Michael has always been an amazing dancer. no one can copy that. not even the best of impersonators.

Yes. I find it hard to believe that Michaels family and friends would appear on stage with an impersonator for more than 25 years. If that was an impersonator, then hell he is just as much as Michael as the old Michael they've kept hidden in a basement because that 'impersonator white new MJ' dances, sings and does just as much charity as the old one. And for some reason that 'new impersonator MJ' seems really close to his family members and children? They must be really close to that impersonator, no? I dont believe this. I cannot believe this. Michael is Michael. He is the one that dances so good, the one who married Lisa Marie Presley, had three wonderful children, owned Neverland, is the one who sings on all his records and is the one who appeared in all interviews and TV appearences (BET awards with James Brown.. ect..) I know our ideas and theories wander off in our minds when we look back in hindsight, but if Michael all of the sudden decided to go in hiding back in the mid 80's and replaced himself with an impersonator, it does not explain how that impersonator is such an amazing dancer, has the exact same voice and emotions and generosity as the old MJ.

If Michael used an impersonator on the trials I really doubt the family would support this so called impersonator or Fake-MJ. Besides, when you book someone and take a mugshot when arrested, dont they also take fingerprints? That would prove there is only one MJ. And IF the impersonator-MJ was accused of childmolestation, why would the REAL Michael hiding in the basement put the impersonator-MJ through all that crap? And not come out from hiding and tell everyone they've made a big mistake and that he is still black and has been hiding in a basement in Encino for 25 years or more.

These are my thoughts. I refuse to believe Michael used impersonators in these serious matters. Yes maybe when he was on tour and needed to escape the hotels or go shopping privately. But not the serious matters.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 06:37:42 PM
They def look different, and i remember watching the bashir documentary and thinking green shirt and burgundy shirt mj do look different. Im sooo confused but i do think there are many other lookalikes, some that we may not even know, and he used them frequently! ;)
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 06:44:28 PM
i believe that when MJ used a double for public apperances and such, they always worse the face mask or sunglasses, because then it would be harder to tell, i don't for a minute think he would use a double for an interview as important as that one.
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 07:56:03 PM
I have always thought it interesting that MJ's jaw shape changed so many times.  Does anyone have a link describing how this type of cosmetic surgery would be possible?  Is it chin implants, or moving the jaw bone or what?  Is it feasible that the jaw could be changed to be more square and then smaller/more round back and forth a few times?  Just curious....  :?:
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Re: Repost: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

  • on: December 05, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
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 Is it feasible that the jaw could be changed to be more square and then smaller/more round back and forth a few times?  Just curious....  :?:
no it is not...lol i have never heard of someone having there jaw we build..unless it was broke in a car accident

and to the people saying " no one can dance like mike and the trial, mike at the trial does not look like the guy in the red shirt during the interview IMO AND its just an interview not a concert...lol there are people who can sound like him when he talks
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