MJ's dark fingernails

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MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 01:54:26 AM
Interesting article...  http://www.handresearch.com/news/in-mem ... y-hand.htm  I've been wondering what caused his fingernails to become so discoloured for awhile.  I don't think it was his vitiligo because his nails were a normal skin tone colour before 2006.  It's possible he was taking some sort of medication that caused it...I can't think of anything else that would do that.  But I hate to think that it was a tumour drug like the article mentions.  Is it possible he really did have skin cancer?  Interesting that his reps didn't even deny that rumour... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... ancer.html
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 04:12:21 AM
I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 04:24:18 AM
I don't think that's the case with him though...his fingernails were mostly pale up until the trial.  Why would they suddenly turn brown like that?  He's had vitiligo since the early 80's.  That just doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 04:32:05 AM
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I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.

i agree!! theres only certain pics that you see MJ's nails.. and if different lights they are different.. i read somewhere that he was really self concious about this cos his nails where brown an looked dirty!! due to his vitiligo..
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 04:47:26 AM
Well clearly they are different colours in these pictures...and that dark colour wouldn't have been his natural fingernail colouring anyway.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 05:25:37 AM
Lupus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_l ... atic_drugs
"Cyclophosphamide is used for severe glomerulonephritis or other organ-damaging complications."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclophosp ... de-effects
" Side-effects include chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (CINV), bone marrow suppression, stomach ache, diarrhea, darkening of the skin/nails, alopecia (hair loss) or thinning of hair, changes in color and texture of the hair, and lethargy.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 05:29:19 AM
Do you think it's at all possible he just wore skin toned nail polish for a while until he just didn't care about it any more??
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 06:43:55 AM
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I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.

i agree!! theres only certain pics that you see MJ's nails.. and if different lights they are different.. i read somewhere that he was really self concious about this cos his nails where brown an looked dirty!! due to his vitiligo..

aww that is so sad.. :( He felt ashamed :(
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 07:33:30 AM
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Lupus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_l ... atic_drugs
"Cyclophosphamide is used for severe glomerulonephritis or other organ-damaging complications."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclophosp ... de-effects
" Side-effects include chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (CINV), bone marrow suppression, stomach ache, diarrhea, darkening of the skin/nails, alopecia (hair loss) or thinning of hair, changes in color and texture of the hair, and lethargy.

Yes I believe it have something to do with the disease Lupus which Michael suffered.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 07:47:25 AM
That's what I though - earlier, he used skin toned nail polish and then he just didn't care about it any more...
Poor Michael... He suffered do much...
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 07:49:41 AM
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I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.

that's true ...that's the reason ;)
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 08:33:19 AM
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 08:45:40 AM
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I don't think that's the case with him though...his fingernails were mostly pale up until the trial.  Why would they suddenly turn brown like that?  He's had vitiligo since the early 80's.  That just doesn't make sense to me.

I think it's ill health, which he was in when the trail was on. He didn't eat because he thought "they" were trying to poison his food.
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 12, 2009, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: "Sangre"
I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.


Yep! Agree. I've read this somewhere but I can't remember where
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 12, 2009, 08:20:57 PM
if you look at him when he performed at the soul train awards in 1992, when he ws sitting down i believe his nails were dark there also
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 13, 2009, 01:19:06 AM
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I don't think that's the case with him though...his fingernails were mostly pale up until the trial.  Why would they suddenly turn brown like that?  He's had vitiligo since the early 80's.  That just doesn't make sense to me.

I think it's ill health, which he was in when the trail was on. He didn't eat because he thought "they" were trying to poison his food.

2005 Trial ... They said he hardly ate at all ... it could be from that ... but I wouldn't know for sure though.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:06:54 AM
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Lupus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_l ... atic_drugs
"Cyclophosphamide is used for severe glomerulonephritis or other organ-damaging complications."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclophosp ... de-effects
" Side-effects include chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (CINV), bone marrow suppression, stomach ache, diarrhea, darkening of the skin/nails, alopecia (hair loss) or thinning of hair, changes in color and texture of the hair, and lethargy.

Thanks Mo...this is most likely the cause.  I'm not sure why people think it's from vitiligo...even dark skinned people don't have black fingernails.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 13, 2009, 08:55:54 AM
Be careful with the diagnoses, we don't have Michael's medical record, so it's obvious we won't know every disease MJ has ever suffered from.
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 13, 2009, 09:12:51 AM
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I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.
that is the reason.
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Re: MJ's Hands

  • on: December 13, 2009, 12:19:41 PM
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I believe it was caused by vitiligo. It killed the pigment of his skin, but the coloration under his fingernails wasn't affected. A lot of people suffering from pigment loss have darker finger tips.

i agree!! theres only certain pics that you see MJ's nails.. and if different lights they are different.. i read somewhere that he was really self concious about this cos his nails where brown an looked dirty!! due to his vitiligo..

aww that is so sad.. :( He felt ashamed :(

And the world-press insulted him saying he just wanted to change his skin colour, and many of us believing it, making judgments on only one version of the story. Shame on us .Sorry Mike :(  :(
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 16, 2009, 09:55:23 AM
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Does anyone know why his fingernails were so long on June?

I found this link :

http://http://handfacts.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/michael-jackson-his-abnormal-fingernails-were-not-due-to-his-vitiligo-nor-lupus/

EDIT :

http://http://www.handresearch.com/news/in-memoriam-hands-of-michael-jackson-hold-my-hand.htm#hand-deterioration
I can't be 100% sure about Michael of cause, but when a person is very ill or an addict, they dont care about the way they look anymore. Michael looked great I think, but it's typical the thing about the fingernails.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 22, 2009, 05:46:38 PM
Well someone mentioned above that dark skinned people don't have dark fingernails yes they do well some of them because my father had dark nails like Michael's and my teacher has those dark nails also and they were and are dark skinned. I think it might have been caused by the lupus and  I think he did wear nail polish to cover it because I read somewhere that he was ashamed because he thought people would think his nails were dirty so he tried to cover them as much as he could.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 22, 2009, 06:21:24 PM
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Interesting article...  http://www.handresearch.com/news/in-mem ... y-hand.htm  I've been wondering what caused his fingernails to become so discoloured for awhile.  I don't think it was his vitiligo because his nails were a normal skin tone colour before 2006.  It's possible he was taking some sort of medication that caused it...I can't think of anything else that would do that.  But I hate to think that it was a tumour drug like the article mentions.  Is it possible he really did have skin cancer?  Interesting that his reps didn't even deny that rumour... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... ancer.html
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when the skin around his fingernails got lighter ,it made his nails look darker but they were always that color.
about the colors during the trial.I used to think and still kinda do ,when MJ got stress his nails started getting darker ,like mood nails lol.
But also it can look lighter and darker by the way the light hits the nail from the camera,but his nails are dark,the way the light bounces off may make it look lighter and the angle.
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 23, 2009, 04:17:58 AM
I don't agree, but each to their own.  ;)

You can see that his nails were a lighter colour than his skin tone here...
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Re: MJ's dark fingernails

  • on: December 23, 2009, 08:14:07 AM
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Be careful with the diagnoses, we don't have Michael's medical record, so it's obvious we won't know every disease MJ has ever suffered from.

True, we would need to know Michael medical history to correctly identify why he has discoloured fingernails. Has anybody ever seen his toenails - are they discoloured too? If this is the case than he may have been suffering from some kind of systemic (affecting the body as a whole) condition, but I’m just speculating.

Here are some possibilities...

1. Michael may have been prescribed hydroquinone containing creams as part of the treatment of his Vitiligo. When hydroquinone comes in contact with the nail bed a reaction occurs (oxidation) that causes this area to become darker. If this is the case we would expect decolouration to be predominantly on Michaels fingernails as oppose to his toenails (if at all).

2. Vitiligo has been associated with autoimmune thyroid disease, such as hyperthyroidism (over active thyroid) or hypothyroidism (underactive), or with Addison’s disease, adrenal insufficiency due to the destruction of the adrenal tissue by circulating antibodies -nail pigmentation can be a sign of this disease.
Addison’s disease and Vitiligo can develop together in some patients. Addisons disease is an adulthood disease; and it can be accompanied by blood pressure instability, fatigue, anorexia, and depression.

3. Melanonychia - black or brown pigmentation of the nail. This can be a normal finding in the nails of dark-skinned persons, occurring in more than 77% of blacks older than 20 years
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