“The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...

[Sarahli]

I know that you are not afraid just wanted to say that I was not too. You've created this topic, if you prefer that I don't give my personal opinion I'll try to stick to the subject next time, God willing.

God bless you.

[Im_convincedmjalive]

I know that you are not afraid just wanted to say that I was not too. You've created this topic, if you prefer that I don't give my personal opinion I'll try to stick to the subject next time, God willing.

God bless you.

Nope, Oh boy NOT us being divided NOW, lol

I meant that (me only).. I personally wasn't giving my FULL opinion or beliefs..
You can give every opinion or belief you want, please do cont. I actually think it is good to have a different view so I can weigh ALL options.

I am sorry if what I said was taken the wrong way.

I was only saying that because sometimes when a topic gets started and then certain info gets put down, people wonder if The OP has a hidden agenda..

Please don't feel like you can't express your opinion here on this subject or give more info into what you may know.

Peace

[Sarahli]

I know that you are not afraid just wanted to say that I was not too. You've created this topic, if you prefer that I don't give my personal opinion I'll try to stick to the subject next time, God willing.

God bless you.

Nope, Oh boy NOT us being divided NOW, lol

I meant that (me only).. I personally wasn't giving my FULL opinion or beliefs..
You can give every opinion or belief you want, please do cont. I actually think it is good to have a different view so I can weigh ALL options.

I am sorry if what I said was taken the wrong way.

I was only saying that because sometimes when a topic gets started and then certain info gets put down, people wonder if The OP has a hidden agenda..

Please don't feel like you can't express your opinion here on this subject or give more info into what you may know.

Peace

Sorry I got it wrong  :oops:  I thought you wanted this to be more "information providing only". I don't feel like you're having a hidden agenda  :lol:  I understand better now ! Sorry again for the misunderstanding and yes I hope people are reading even if they don't post.

United always. This is too important. Peace to you.

[Sarahli]

"Raiders of the Lost Ark"

Plot

In 1936, treasure hunter/archaeologist Indiana Jones braves an ancient temple in the Peruvian jungle filled with booby traps to retrieve a Golden Idol. Upon escaping the temple, Indiana is confronted by rival archaeologist René Belloq and the indigenous Hovitos people. Surrounded and outnumbered, Indiana is forced to surrender the idol to Belloq, and flees from a jungle chase aboard a waiting seaplane.

Shortly after returning to the college in the United States where he teaches archeology, Indiana is interviewed by two Army intelligence agents. They inform him that the Nazis, in their quest for occult power, are searching for his old mentor, Abner Ravenwood, who is in possession of the headpiece of an artifact called the Staff of Ra and is the leading expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis. Indiana deduces that the Nazis are searching for the Ark of the Covenant, the biblical chest built by the Israelites to contain the fragments of the Ten Commandments. The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried. The agents subsequently authorize Indiana to recover the Ark with the promise of displaying it in a museum. Indiana travels to a tavern in Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and that the headpiece is in the possession of his daughter and Indiana's embittered former lover, Marion. The tavern is suddenly raided by a group of thugs commanded by Nazi agent Major Toht. The tavern is burned down in the ensuing fight, during which Toht burns his hand on the searing hot headpiece as he tries to grab it. Indiana and Marion escape with the headpiece, with Marion declaring she will accompany Indiana in his search for the Ark so he can repay his debt.

They travel to Cairo where they learn from Sallah, Indiana's friend and a skilled digger, that the Nazis are currently digging for the Well of Souls with the aid of Belloq and a replica of the headpiece modeled after the scar on Toht's hand. In a bazaar, Nazi operatives kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Indiana, strengthening his resolve to find the Ark. While deciphering the markings on the headpiece, Indiana and Sallah realize that the Nazis have miscalculated the location of the Well of Souls. Using this to their advantage, they infiltrate the Nazi dig and use the Staff of Ra to correctly determine the location and uncover the Well of Souls, which is filled with venomous snakes. After Indiana obtains the Ark, Belloq and the Nazis arrive to take it for themselves. They proceed to toss Marion, who is alive, down into the well with Indiana and seal them both in. However, they manage to navigate the underground temple and escape. After a grueling fist fight with a German mechanic, blowing up a flying wing ready to ship the Ark to Germany, and chasing down a convoy of trucks, Indiana manages to take back the Ark before it can be shipped to Berlin.

Indiana and Marion leave Cairo to escort the Ark to England on board a tramp steamer. The next morning, their boat is boarded by the Nazis who once again steal the Ark and kidnap Marion. Indiana stows away on the U-boat and follows them to an isolated island where Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Adolf Hitler. Indiana reveals himself and threatens to destroy the Ark with a rocket launcher, but Belloq calls his bluff.

Indiana surrenders and is tied to a post with Marion as Belloq performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark, which appears to contain nothing but sand. Suddenly, spirits emerge from the Ark; aware of the supernatural danger of looking at the opened Ark, Indiana warns Marion to close her eyes. The apparitions suddenly morph into demonic creatures, and lightning bolts begin flying out of the ark, gruesomely killing the Nazis. The fires rise into the sky, then fall back down to Earth and the Ark closes with a crack of thunder.

Back in Washington, D.C., the Army intelligence agents tell a suspicious Indiana that the Ark "is someplace safe" to be studied by "top men". In reality, the Ark is sealed in a wooden crate labeled "top secret" and stored in a giant government warehouse filled with countless similar crates.
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So in the movie the Ark is in Washington DC. It's just a movie I know  8-)

[Sarahli]

Well of Souls
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The Well of Souls is sometimes considered the hiding place of the Ark of the Covenant in legends stating that the Ark was hidden beneath the Temple Mount, but removed when Solomon's temple was destroyed by the neo-Babylonians.In this context it appeared in Raiders of the Lost Ark, although relocated to Tanis, Egypt.
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Government warehouse (fiction)
The Government Warehouse is a plot device used in movies, television series, and novels, a scenario used in role-playing games, and a belief of some conspiracy theorists. The concept is that there is a secret government warehouse where various items are stored of whose existence the government  wants the general populace to remain ignorant.

Real-world government warehouses
See also: Government warehouse (non-fiction)

The government warehouses of fiction and conspiracy theories have a number of analogues in the real world, although some are not run by official national governments. Historically, the template is the Great Library of Alexandria, which held an extensive collection of written works but was repeatedly destroyed during the first millennium AD. The Vatican Secret Archives are alleged to hold many secrets, such as unpublished records of the Knights Templar. The Vatican's archives are a main plot element in Dan Brown's novel Angels & Demons. Many prominent museums have extensive archives which often lay undisturbed for decades, such as the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, which was found in 2002 to have 80,000 items—more than half the museum's collection—stored away in its vaults.

In the United States, the National Archives and Records Administration and the Library of Congress both have numerous government warehouses to store historic items and documents.
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[Im_convincedmjalive]

"Raiders of the Lost Ark"

Plot

In 1936, treasure hunter/archaeologist Indiana Jones braves an ancient temple in the Peruvian jungle filled with booby traps to retrieve a Golden Idol. Upon escaping the temple, Indiana is confronted by rival archaeologist René Belloq and the indigenous Hovitos people. Surrounded and outnumbered, Indiana is forced to surrender the idol to Belloq, and flees from a jungle chase aboard a waiting seaplane.

Shortly after returning to the college in the United States where he teaches archeology, Indiana is interviewed by two Army intelligence agents. They inform him that the Nazis, in their quest for occult power, are searching for his old mentor, Abner Ravenwood, who is in possession of the headpiece of an artifact called the Staff of Ra and is the leading expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis. Indiana deduces that the Nazis are searching for the Ark of the Covenant, the biblical chest built by the Israelites to contain the fragments of the Ten Commandments. The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried. The agents subsequently authorize Indiana to recover the Ark with the promise of displaying it in a museum. Indiana travels to a tavern in Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and that the headpiece is in the possession of his daughter and Indiana's embittered former lover, Marion. The tavern is suddenly raided by a group of thugs commanded by Nazi agent Major Toht. The tavern is burned down in the ensuing fight, during which Toht burns his hand on the searing hot headpiece as he tries to grab it. Indiana and Marion escape with the headpiece, with Marion declaring she will accompany Indiana in his search for the Ark so he can repay his debt.

They travel to Cairo where they learn from Sallah, Indiana's friend and a skilled digger, that the Nazis are currently digging for the Well of Souls with the aid of Belloq and a replica of the headpiece modeled after the scar on Toht's hand. In a bazaar, Nazi operatives kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Indiana, strengthening his resolve to find the Ark. While deciphering the markings on the headpiece, Indiana and Sallah realize that the Nazis have miscalculated the location of the Well of Souls. Using this to their advantage, they infiltrate the Nazi dig and use the Staff of Ra to correctly determine the location and uncover the Well of Souls, which is filled with venomous snakes. After Indiana obtains the Ark, Belloq and the Nazis arrive to take it for themselves. They proceed to toss Marion, who is alive, down into the well with Indiana and seal them both in. However, they manage to navigate the underground temple and escape. After a grueling fist fight with a German mechanic, blowing up a flying wing ready to ship the Ark to Germany, and chasing down a convoy of trucks, Indiana manages to take back the Ark before it can be shipped to Berlin.

Indiana and Marion leave Cairo to escort the Ark to England on board a tramp steamer. The next morning, their boat is boarded by the Nazis who once again steal the Ark and kidnap Marion. Indiana stows away on the U-boat and follows them to an isolated island where Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Adolf Hitler. Indiana reveals himself and threatens to destroy the Ark with a rocket launcher, but Belloq calls his bluff.

Indiana surrenders and is tied to a post with Marion as Belloq performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark, which appears to contain nothing but sand. Suddenly, spirits emerge from the Ark; aware of the supernatural danger of looking at the opened Ark, Indiana warns Marion to close her eyes. The apparitions suddenly morph into demonic creatures, and lightning bolts begin flying out of the ark, gruesomely killing the Nazis. The fires rise into the sky, then fall back down to Earth and the Ark closes with a crack of thunder.

Back in Washington, D.C., the Army intelligence agents tell a suspicious Indiana that the Ark "is someplace safe" to be studied by "top men". In reality, the Ark is sealed in a wooden crate labeled "top secret" and stored in a giant government warehouse filled with countless similar crates.
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So in the movie the Ark is in Washington DC. It's just a movie I know  8-)

Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

[Sarahli]

Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

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Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

[TheRunningGirl]

You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E

[TheRunningGirl]

... And the other association I forgot to mention in my previous post is between Steven Spielberg and the Liberian Girl video with Steven Spielberg acting as the video director whilst Mike was actually directing it.... It is so good!

With L.O.V.E

[Sarahli]

Good observations TheRunningGirl ! I thought about that too that maybe the Ark is not about the Ark itself but rather about the symbolisms around. Now as stated before the Pandora's box has been opened and all possibilites have to be considered. When I read the Scriptures I understand that there was really an Ark with the tables of the 10 Commandements inside, it must be somewhere no ?
Thank you and God bless you.

[Im_convincedmjalive]

You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E

Thanks for contributing...

I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.
 
:ugeek:  He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. :ugeek:"

 Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.  

:ugeek: One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. :ugeek:

This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
Peace

Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

[TheRunningGirl]

You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E

Thanks for contributing...

I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.
 
:ugeek:  He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. :ugeek:"

 Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.  

:ugeek: One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. :ugeek:

This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
Peace

Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

Hello! Im_convincedmjalive,  My pleasure.

Yes! I have read all the good infos on this thread and I was very impressed by the ideas and depth of the thinking. Loved it but did not feel that I had any inspirational thoughts to contribute at the time. The Ark of the Covenant is a very rich and absorbing topic, and one that needs an open mind! (I absolutely agree with you Sarahli)

My morning thoughts (Those that follows my double espresso!) got me to look at it a bit differently, through associations;  Michael got associated with the Ark of the Covenant in the the television show South Park in a 2004 episode - Season 8 Episode 7 - titled "The Jeffersons"  and I thought that the entertainment angle was a worthwhile one to explore:
The raiders of the lost ark to Steven Spielberg to the Liberian Girl and to C DeMille.  C DeMille to the Greatest Show on Earth (PT Barnum) and the 10 Commandments.

I am sure we are getting closer - If the 25th June 2009 announcement was not a coincidence, was it then real?  

R47. Ark of the Covenant
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}

The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …” {http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was

With L.O.V.E

[Im_convincedmjalive]

 :ugeek:
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Gunther Russbacher was a CIA operative.

This is about The Contra Affairs and President Bush always denying involvement.
The Bush Family has been screwing The USA for along TIME.

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The Contra Affairs with Oliver North.

A Man By The Name of  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Was SET UP back THEN during THE CONTRA Affairs and spent 20 years in Prison because of LA Corruption, The Reagan administration, and Oliver North.

Truth being exposed.

[youtube:9s5ejs5i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX_-xMqg-6E[/youtube:9s5ejs5i]

[youtube:9s5ejs5i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYgwIBXMNho&feature=related[/youtube:9s5ejs5i]

[youtube:9s5ejs5i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUQJbsdX0E&feature=related[/youtube:9s5ejs5i]


 :ugeek:

This whole TIAI revealed Part 7 is ALL about Conspiracies and HOW Corrupt The USA Government is. Above is Proof Positive that it has been going on Far Longer Than just MJ.

TIAI Revealed, Part 7: NWO Powers Control the Mass Media  (R29 - R42)

This whole part 7 deals with the secret societies; and especially their agenda to create a one-world religion and one-world government system, called the New World Order (NWO).  There are many such societies, including: Illuminati, Skull & Bones, Masons, and many more; they are bricks in the pyramid (shown on the back of the U.S. one dollar bill).  Instead of trying to identify individual secret societies, the general term “NWO powers” will be used.

Michael is well aware of these NWO powers, their corruption, their tremendous power, and their conspiracies (see R29).  And he knows that these powers control the mass media; which means that if you do a hoax to expose the mass media corruption, you are inherently going to come under the wrath of the powers that control the media—you can’t do one, without having the other.  So he has to be very careful with when and how he returns to the public eye.

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R29. MJ on Police Brutality
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The redirect for this day was another YouTube video; it was a segment on police brutality, from the 60 minutes interview in December of 2003.  It is of course very sad the way that MJ was treated; but the truly heroic part, was his humble and mild response—you have to watch it, if you haven’t already.

Later in this same interview (part 3), Michael said: “I don’t want to say too much … there’s a conspiracy, yeah; I don’t want to say too much.  I’m done.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, at 8:20}  You see, he didn’t want to say much, because he knew the danger involved in exposing the NWO powers.  And no, he was not talking about some small-town conspiracy; he was talking “media” conspiracy, and “manipulating history books”, etc.  Watch the following YouTube video; it has good information, even though they mistakenly think that he was murdered {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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R30. The Illuminati Theory – Not Involving Murder
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Here was a thread from the MJ-conspiracy.com hoax forum; this thread was chosen because of the title, and also some of the posts in the thread.  I will quote from some of Lacey5842’s post; it is very well stated!

“All the while this is happening [the hoax] people are waking up, not necessarily to him being alive, but to what is happening in the world that effects them and they aren’t happy. They’ve started to look for answers on how we, humanity, can stop this evil minority from continuing with their plans. So, essentially, people are becoming united all over the world for example that’s how you and I are now connected.  All the while this is happening Michael is safely hidden away, watching what is happening from a distance.  I believe that once Michael can see that enough people are united and have enough knowledge of all that is happening he will then feel safe enough to reveal that he is still alive and confirm his message. In effect all those that didn't believe he was still alive will then see that, in fact, he is but they will also have all the knowledge of the things happening around them. Michael will then have his army, ‘Soldiers of Love’ and not one of his billions of soldiers are going to allow anything to happen to him because if anything did happen to him the Elite would know that there would be war and our army is far bigger then [than] theirs but is also worldwide. They will know they don’t stand a chance so in effect they won’t even try.  It is my belief that when Michael does return there will be a war but it will be a non violent, peaceful war. A war based on numbers, unity, wits and L.O.V.E.”

This thread was also used, because of the title: The Illuminati Theory – Not Involving Murder!  Since the next half-a-dozen redirects would deal with murders, this title was used to show that MJ himself was not murdered.  In spite of this, and many other TIAI redirects pointing to a hoax and not a murder, some still thought that TIAI was trying to say that MJ was murdered.

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R31. George Magazine, Inaugural Issue
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This clue was the cover of the first issue of JFK Junior’s magazine, George.  This redirect was chosen for multiple reasons, most of which can be seen on the cover picture—including these statements: “the next american revolution”; and “not just politics as usual”.

“George earned infamy in the conspiracy cyberculture, when an article slated to run in the October 1998 ‘Conspiracy Issue’ on the top conspiracy writers was killed at the last minute by George editors. Titled ‘Princes of Paranoia,’ it would have highlighted writers and websites that were popular in the field of conspiracy theory and given their work exposure to a wider audience.”  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Less than a year later, on July 16, 1999, JFK Jr. was permanently silenced; after that, there would be no more danger of him exposing any conspiracies.

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R32. George?  (Google Images, Page 10)
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The primary reason for the George magazine clue above, however, was the title itself: George.  Regarding the assassination of JFK Senior: “… polls conducted from 1966 on show as many as 80% of the American public hold beliefs contrary to these findings [the government conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the ‘lone gunman’].” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Close friends of JFK Jr. said, and common sense should also tell you, that his single biggest goal in life was: to discover the conspiracy behind his father’s murder, and bring it to public knowledge.  He of all people in the world had the motivation, and also the connections, to get the “inside” information.

Yet he also knew that it wouldn’t be easy to get this information out, without making himself a target.  So he decided to put the first name, of the person who orchestrated his father’s murder, into the title of his magazine.  And he also had Cindy Crawford dressed as George Washington, to show the connection with the US Presidency (this would also serve to distract those who were not in tune with the real reason for the name “George”).

If you look at a list of US Presidents from the beginning until 1995 (when the magazine came out), you will find only two Presidents with the name “George”: George Washington, and George H. W. Bush (Senior) {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Obviously, George Washington did not orchestrate the assassination of JFK Sr.  So it was George Bush Senior that murdered JFK Senior (and later George Bush Junior murdered JFK Junior).

These corrupt NWO leaders really don’t care if you believe in conspiracies, etc—just as long as the culprits remain in the realm of unidentified mysteries.  But they definitely don’t want to be identified by name and face; especially not the well-known ones, like the Bush family.

The Google images page, at the time of this redirect (now the images are arranged differently), had pictures of all three “George” US Presidents: Washington, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr.  Many noticed Bush Jr. to the right of Washington; but if you look close, the picture above Washington is Bush Senior {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, look at the second post by Serenity’s_Dream on that page}.

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R33. Murder of JFK Jr.
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This redirect was to the trailer for a video on the murder of JFK Jr.  This murder of JFK was chosen, partly because it is a classic example of how much power these NWO leaders have over the media.  If you watch the whole video, or even the trailer, you will see that the first news reports said that John had made a radio call just before the crash.  Then when the Pentagon took over, this fact was silenced in all of the mainstream media channels.

There is one major piece of evidence, though, that did not get filtered out; it can still be found in the official NTSB report, on their official website {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}: “The fuel selector valve was recovered … and the valve was found in the OFF position.”  Yet the NTSB went along with the media story about the cause of the crash {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}: “The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The pilot’s failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation.”

Any experienced pilot should see a glaring problem with the NTSB’s own report.  If John lost control of the airplane from spatial disorientation (confusion): why was the fuel valve turned off?  If you are disoriented and out of control, the only thing you are worried about is getting the plane level again; and turning off the fuel isn’t going to help level the plane in the least bit—that would be a total waste of time, when every second counts!  And you can’t just accidentally bump it into the off position; no, it takes deliberate effort (so that you don’t accidentally shut the fuel off while flying, and lose your engine).

Also, shutting the fuel valve won’t keep you alive if the plane nosedives into the water or ground; you will most likely die from the impact.  Furthermore, shutting the valve won’t keep the plane from catching on fire or exploding upon impact.  Think about it.  What about the planes that hit the trade towers: do you suppose if they had shut the fuel valves off just before impact, then there would’ve been no explosion??  Nonsense!

Then why was the fuel valve shut off in JFK Junior’s plane?  Most likely, as stated in the video, there was a Manchurian candidate flight instructor on board.  He was probably programmed to shut the fuel valve off, while John was making his radio call to the landing airport; John would be distracted at that moment, and might not notice the instructor turning the fuel valve off.

A few seconds later, the engine would quit from lack of fuel; then the instructor would push the plane into a nosedive.  John would then have to physically fight the instructor to get the control back; and even if he succeeded at that (which would be very difficult), he would then have to deal with a dead engine.  While trying to restart the engine, the instructor could nosedive the plane again; and so on.

The NTSB official website reports that the same basic thing happened on Egypt Air 990; and this was in the same general area, only about 100 days later.  The “FDR [flight data recorder] recorded an abrupt nose-down elevator movement … the engines were shut off. … the captain, surprised to realize that the engines had been shut off, was trying to tell the relief first officer to leave the engines alone.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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R34. MJalive999 YouTube Video, Part 2
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Another YouTube video; this time, though, it is a video specifically about the TIAI redirects.  It is actually part 2 in a series—all of which are good; but part 2 was the redirect, because it had the information dealing with the Kennedys.  Not only was the information good on that video; but MJalive999 had figured out the connection with the George magazine title, and JFK Junior naming his father’s murderer with the magazine title.

I also wonder if MJalive999 picked that username, because of the 9-9-09 date in relation to “This Is It”.  Another account on YouTube, called PianoGames, also did a video (part 16) on the TIAI redirects {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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R35. Google Search on Various Conspiracy Murders
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After going through several redirects related to JFK (Jr. & Sr.), this redirect was for the purpose of showing that there are many more such cases.  No particular web page was intended in this redirect; instead, the Google search was merely to show that there is a lot of information on the internet that you can research.  Some got a virus from clicking on one of the search hit pages; sorry, this was not intentional.  Before doing any internet searching, you should have good antivirus software; because any web page can potentially contain a virus.

The list on the Google search was Pearl Harbor, JFK, RFK, MLK, Princess Di, 911, and the Titanic; Pearl Harbor was listed first, because that redirect was on December 7 (Pearl Harbor Day, 68th anniversary).  Some said that other cases should’ve been included.  However, there wasn’t much more room in the search box; if you looked close, though, there were three dots at the end (…) to indicate more—yes, there are many more cases.  And all of the cases listed have common elements: conspiracy by corrupt powers in the government to murder their own people, and for the purpose of establishing the NWO.

Also, about half of the listed cases have close connection with MJ: he knew Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; here is a YouTube video with MJ and Lady Diana {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and MLK III spoke at MJ’s memorial {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The last one given in the search list was the Titanic; and although the sinking is very well known, the conspiracy behind it is rarely heard of—even among those who recognize a lot of the conspiracies.  The NWO powers were trying to set up the Federal Reserve, for controlling money and funding their agenda; but some very wealthy and influential people knew that this would be bad, and were against it.  So what did the NWO powers do about it?  They sunk a whole ship, and murdered 1,517 people—just to get rid of the opposition.

“On the maiden voyage of the Titanic some of the most prominent people of the day were travelling in first–class. Some of these included millionaire John Jacob Astor IV {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login} and his wife Madeleine Force Astor [one of the wealthiest families in the United States], industrialist Benjamin Guggenheim {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, Macy’s owner Isidor Straus {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login} and his wife Ida …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The ship sunk in 1912, and the three wealthy men listed above all died in the disaster; then the Federal Reserve was set up in 1913. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  This explains why the iceberg warnings were ignored, and it also explains the numerous other strange mysteries surrounding this major disaster.

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R36. Aphrodite Jones and Thomas Mesereau (MJ Conspiracy)
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This YouTube video was the redirect for 12-8-09.  Before going into the subject of the video, let me point out that this day was in the middle of part 7 on NWO conspiracies (R29 – R42); and the biggest of all, is the 911 conspiracy.  And in fact, just one day before (on 12-7-09), the TIAI redirect had a list of conspiracies—including “911”, etc (see R35).

Well, on 12-8-09 TMZ had—not one or two, but six different articles with “911” in the article heading {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}!  This timing should make it obvious that TIAI was not copying TMZ.  Was it yet another coincidence?  Well, how often does TMZ have even one article with “911” in the heading?  Check it out for yourself.

Now back to the “MJ Conspiracy” book and video.  Quite obviously, there was a conspiracy against MJ, even though it wasn’t a murder conspiracy.  And the testimony from Aphrodite shows that people involved in a conspiracy may not even know it themselves (only the upper levels understand).  And even after she recognized the conspiracy, it seems that she only saw media and money as the source of the conspiracy—not the NWO powers controlling the media.

The conspiracy did succeed to the extent of damaging MJ’s reputation; but it did not succeed to the extent of the court finding him guilty.  At the end of the video clip, Aphrodite asked a very appropriate question: “Why are we still crucifying this man?  He was found not guilty.”

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R37. Daniel and the Lion’s Den
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“My God sent his angel to shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me, for I have been found innocent in his sight. And I have not wronged you, Your Majesty.” (Daniel 6:22, NLT).

As always, the context of the verse is important.  In this case, it is the very well known story of Daniel and the lion’s den.  High officials in the kingdom hated Daniel, and conspired to get rid of him; but God overruled, saved Daniel’s life, and vindicated his character.  I’m sure that you can see the parallel here, with the conspiracy against MJ.  God thwarted the plans of MJ’s enemies, and he was found not guilty on all charges.

Now let’s stop and think here for a minute.  These NWO leaders are capable of sinking a whole ship, and killing over 1,500 people on it, just to get rid of a few people.  They brought down the trade towers, which killed masses of people; they killed the US President (JFK), as well as his son—and the list goes on.

Then don’t you think they are capable of taking MJ out?  So why didn’t they succeed in killing MJ before 2009?  In fact, why didn’t they succeed in the child molestation charges?  There is a very simple answer: as with Daniel, God shut the mouths of the lions, and thwarted the conspiracies of the government officials.

Why did God protect MJ, and not JFK, MLK, etc?  Perhaps only God understands that fully; but it could well be that God has a special plan for MJ, in the final battle against the NWO.  Maybe God has a mission for MJ, and has protected him from his enemies “for such a time as this” (Esther 4:14).

Then if God can protect MJ in 1993, and in 2005, and clear up to 6-25-09: then don’t you think that God can still protect him after 6-25-09?  In fact, don’t you think that God could protect his life ON 6-25-09???  Then why do we keep being faithless, and thinking that he really died?

If God wants to keep MJ alive, or you, or anyone else: not all the weapons in the whole world can kill.  Just like Daniel in the lion’s den: “My God sent his angel to shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me …”

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R38. “People Should Not Be Afraid of Their Governments. …”
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The full quote says: “People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”  As most already know, this is a quote from the “V for Vendetta” film.  This clue was quite obvious, and didn’t need any deep investigation.  Yet this had more than one reason, as usual.

Especially after the section on the Kennedys, people were saying that TIAI was trying to create fear in order to control people.  It is sad that people try to find an evil motive in everything; yet with the condition of society, there is a great deal of evil out there—so it is understandable.  So this redirect was given to help people see that TIAI was not trying to create fear in the people; if anything, it is intended to create fear in the corrupt leaders committing these crimes.

Another reason for this redirect, was that it was a picture of a bumper sticker.  If anyone found the source of the picture, they also found where to buy the bumper stickers { You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login }.  Put them on your car, and help spread the message (I have no affiliation with Zazzle, and I don’t make a single penny from these sales; I just want to promote the message).

The Bible says: “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear … He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” (1 John 4:18; see Revelation 2:10).  So don’t be afraid to join Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E. (see R39, next).

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R39. Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.
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This clue was one of the still shots, from the TII trailer; specifically, an army of soldiers, with an “M” in the center of the background (Michael’s army).  Take a look at a close up picture of the soldiers, and you will see that they are not carrying guns or weapons { You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login }.  This is because it’s an Army of L.O.V.E., not an army of violence.

These soldiers in the TII movie were filmed as part of the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”.  This army needs to stand up against the NWO corruption, the very ones that MJ is singing about—who don’t really care about us, but kill thousands of their own citizens to forward their evil agenda.

Actually, all four of the film segments in TII are directly related to the hoax and its purpose.  Smooth Criminal: about the hoaxed death.  Thriller: about the MJ “resurrection”.  Earth Song: butterflies (represent re-birth), and healing the world (environment, etc).  The army, just discussed above.  Wow!  Yet another amazing coincidence!!  Or perhaps, was this planned??

Those in the old MJHD forum will remember that I tried hard, more than once, to rally an Army of L.O.V.E. (though at the time, I did not go into the conspiracy aspect); but I got only about a hundred people to post their support prior to the release of the movie.  So let’s try again; this time, we can do better.  How about several hundred, or several thousand—maybe more than ten thousand!  But if we can only come up with a hundred again, then don’t be too surprised if MJ doesn’t come back.

Many people will refuse to listen, yes; but for those who are open-minded, just ask them to go to ThisIsAlsoIt.com, and read TIAI Revealed.  Especially if they are MJ fans, remind them that MJ himself said: “Prejudice is ignorance”.




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R40. “The Whole Armor of God”
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world [NWO powers], against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.” (Ephesians 6:12,13; 21st Century KJV).

If we want to be warriors in Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E., we need to be wearing the “whole armor”—then and only then will we be able to stand against the NWO powers, etc.  Does this mean that we should take up guns and bombs, and only add more strife and bloodshed in this world that needs peace?  No!  The Bible says that “the weapons of our warfare are not carnal [not physical weapons]” (2 Corinthians 10:4).

Then what is the armor, which we need to have?  The context of the above verse in Ephesians gives the answer (verses 13-18): “Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.  Stand therefore, having your loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness,  and your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace.  Above all, take the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.  And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God, praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.”

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Finally, some have asked what does the “also” refer to in TIAI?  In addition to the music and entertainment in TII: TIAI is the wake-up call message, to see the NWO for what it is—and join the Army of L.O.V.E. to help heal the world, etc.

[Im_convincedmjalive]

You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

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Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E

Thanks for contributing...

I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.
 
:ugeek:  He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. :ugeek:"

 Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.  

:ugeek: One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. :ugeek:

This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
Peace

Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

Hello! Im_convincedmjalive,  My pleasure.

Yes! I have read all the good infos on this thread and I was very impressed by the ideas and depth of the thinking. Loved it but did not feel that I had any inspirational thoughts to contribute at the time. The Ark of the Covenant is a very rich and absorbing topic, and one that needs an open mind! (I absolutely agree with you Sarahli)

My morning thoughts (Those that follows my double espresso!) got me to look at it a bit differently, through associations;  Michael got associated with the Ark of the Covenant in the the television show South Park in a 2004 episode - Season 8 Episode 7 - titled "The Jeffersons"  and I thought that the entertainment angle was a worthwhile one to explore:
The raiders of the lost ark to Steven Spielberg to the Liberian Girl and to C DeMille.  C DeMille to the Greatest Show on Earth (PT Barnum) and the 10 Commandments.

I am sure we are getting closer - If the 25th June 2009 announcement was not a coincidence, was it then real?  

R47. Ark of the Covenant
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}

The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …” {http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was

With L.O.V.E

Yes Very Much Real.

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Everything is RELEVANT, even what You contributed.

Peace

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There is more INFO on The Unveiling Of The ARK.

The other link above, (In My other post) You have to scroll to the bottom of the page to get the dirty secrets, lol

Peace