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Sarahli

Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 11:36:58 AM
I think that we must believe in the truth and fight for it no matter what remarks we can have in return. The truth will speak for itself sooner or later and then people will realize that they were wrong and God willing they will maybe begin to question themselves. All we have to do is tell what we believe is the truth, stay polite and leave. Our mission is only to spread the message not force people to believe. They must realize by themselves after all.  

We must as an army of LOVE find a way to "use the medias against themselves", to reveal their true nature and their real role in our societies, to show people how medias are corrupt because this is the major problem that we have as the powers in place don't allow the truth to be told and own major medias outlets at the same time.

I see the medias as a deep anesthetic that neutralize all critical thinking and reasoning. It's like the whole population was under slow perfusion (IV) and the drug administered is made of lies and half truths. With such a treatment it's not surpising to see the reactions we had to cope with all along this journey. And it's not just about Elvis or Michael but for subjects such as 9/11 or the Illuminati as well.

Now we may be a kind of "cure", the soldiers of LOVE. Like a vaccine we must inject posts and comments on famous blogs to spread the message and if possible make a "breaking news" !
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 11:56:21 AM
sk2001 - I agree with you. I look at the purpose of the website and think that we have lost our focus. I have no proof, but my gut feeling tells me that whoever this TS person is, is using us for their own agenda. It's hard enough to prove credibility with the Michael Jackson hoax, now we've added Elvis into the mix? Maybe we should just focus on one thing and let the other one play it out. They may or may not be connected, but I very seriously doubt that "tweeting" is going to convince anyone. If we lose whatever credibility we have, we've lost a lot.

But like you, to each his own. For myself, I know that when I lose focus, I lose valuable time and resources that could be spent on whatever my original goal is....in business, they call that getting into the weeds.

No bashing please.

"If everyone's thinking the same thing, no one's thinking." Benjamin Franklin

Peace, love and recycle.
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 01:20:44 PM
Thanks Rita.. I'm glad you understand . My comments are not supposed to let anyone down but it's just getting easier to lose credibility. First we lost it over 'the sun article' situation that made us look like idiots. Although Souza and mo's intensions were so good. So if we link elvis to this now, many will roll eyes at us even more. O well. Like I said, goodluk to those who want to go that route. Hope you achieve your goals :) I don't think I can convince people of 2 hoaxes personally.


Quote from: "Rita Hayworth"
sk2001 - I agree with you. I look at the purpose of the website and think that we have lost our focus. I have no proof, but my gut feeling tells me that whoever this TS person is, is using us for their own agenda. It's hard enough to prove credibility with the Michael Jackson hoax, now we've added Elvis into the mix? Maybe we should just focus on one thing and let the other one play it out. They may or may not be connected, but I very seriously doubt that "tweeting" is going to convince anyone. If we lose whatever credibility we have, we've lost a lot.

But like you, to each his own. For myself, I know that when I lose focus, I lose valuable time and resources that could be spent on whatever my original goal is....in business, they call that getting into the weeds.

No bashing please.

"If everyone's thinking the same thing, no one's thinking." Benjamin Franklin

Peace, love and recycle.
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: "sk2001"
Thanks Rita.. I'm glad you understand . My comments are supposed to let anyone down but it's just getting easier to lose credibility. First we lost it over 'the sun article' situation that made us look like idiots. Although Souza and mo's intensions were so good. So if we link elvis to this now, many will roll eyes at us even more. O well. Like I said, goodluk to those who want to go that route. Hope you achieve your goals :) I don't think I can convince people of 2 hoaxes personally.


Quote from: "Rita Hayworth"
sk2001 - I agree with you. I look at the purpose of the website and think that we have lost our focus. I have no proof, but my gut feeling tells me that whoever this TS person is, is using us for their own agenda. It's hard enough to prove credibility with the Michael Jackson hoax, now we've added Elvis into the mix? Maybe we should just focus on one thing and let the other one play it out. They may or may not be connected, but I very seriously doubt that "tweeting" is going to convince anyone. If we lose whatever credibility we have, we've lost a lot.

But like you, to each his own. For myself, I know that when I lose focus, I lose valuable time and resources that could be spent on whatever my original goal is....in business, they call that getting into the weeds.

No bashing please.

"If everyone's thinking the same thing, no one's thinking." Benjamin Franklin

Peace, love and recycle.

I get where you're coming from. But you don't have to convince anyone of anything. If the majority of people knew about this elvis case with eliza then they may think different.The problem is that there is very little media coverage on this, that is why it's important for us to get people to read about it. The point is that there are so many people that will be reached by the revelation that Elvis did not die. And it's a completely different senerio, Elvis didn't fake his death just to fool the world, he literally took on a new identity for spiritual reasons. And the fact that it's in court should be "realistic" enough for people to take notice. It's the idea that turns people away, not the actual information. People roll their eyes before even reading, so it's our goal to just get people to read...the information itself will do the convincing.
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Sarahli

Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 03:55:52 PM
There are enough evidences to show that Elvis can really be alive and something is going to happen soon about the subject with the DNA and Lisa Marie who will probably be asked to give a DNA sample to complete the tests and avoid an exhumation. So it's really an opportunity for us to talk about Elvis before this happens.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 04:31:55 PM
Quote from: "curls"
I wish all these brilliant ideas weren't so 'techie'!!

I'm one 'of a certain age', (a bit older than MJ, let's put it that way!), and posting on a forum such as this is about as far as my expertise goes!

I want to do my bit but I am very lacking in skills in this department, and I've never even heard of most of the 'well known' people mentioned!


we are in the same boat.  did you see where they put the life jackets? all i can find are the heavy ones with the long sleeves and lots of  buckles :shock:
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

Re: TIAI 7/14
July 14, 2010, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: "JacilovesMichael"
I think this is something we can all do. Different audiences need different approaches, that is for sure. Do it all with love and you can't go wrong.
@JacilovesMichael - Totally agree with you, People need to do what they are comfortable with and use what ever medium they feel is best to communicate with their audience. There are so many different ways to communicate, individually or as "an army of L.O.V.E"!


Quote from: "Sarahli"
There are enough evidences to show that Elvis can really be alive and something is going to happen soon about the subject with the DNA and Lisa Marie who will probably be asked to give a DNA sample to complete the tests and avoid an exhumation. So it's really an opportunity for us to talk about Elvis before this happens.
@ Sarahli
I agree that Elvis may be alive though I have NOT done any indepth research on the matter. A "double" bam would be such an amazing news that I guess TMZ wouldn't want to miss it!
It would be the scoop of the scoops!  :D


Any news going through TMZ is likely to reach Millions and spread the message much faster, I guess this is why TS is pointing towards TMZ and TMZ "special relationship" with the Hoax. It may be about preparing the audience for the BAM, getting the attention, getting people to think and find out more about Why Mike faked his death before he "Bams"... I would call this Readiness for the BAM!  ;)


With L.O.V.E
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 02:39:07 AM
LOl Where did they get taht "old" Elvis impersonator in that vid? Hahahahahahhahaha...
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 02:54:57 AM
I think I'm finally getting it or maybe I'm slow, what TS is doing with the MJ/Elvis connection. For a whole year MJ's been trying with great gruesome detail and elaborate sinister plot to convince the whole world that he is dead/murdered. In a way he's set us up to be divided into two opposing sides - for or against a hoax, because of such clear proofs for each side. It may be a stalemate up to this point.  But if Elvis could be proved to be alive by DNA evidence that would give us some edge, and draw much more world attention.  Thousands of forums have been battling out MJ's moral integrity all this year, that he's innocent of charges, and it appears they have made a huge impact that way. So now it's part 2, the second half, again all internet and fan based. Hopefully TMZ and the family will be overtly giving evidence he's alive. Throw Elvis into the mix just to make the white world sit up and take notice as well, and it's going to be a challenge because race is involved. This is one ultimate challenge about us being MJ's army of love. Maybe it's we who have to come up with creative plans of strategy to get the message out, before he Bams. Twitter is a little beyond me. This is interactive entertainment, ARG, alternative reality GAME!!  Mostly what we see on TV now is all kinds of reality shows--this year has been the best Reality show bar none.
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
Hello,

I've been following the mj death hoax and this site for a while now, but i've just registered :) . I was thinking maybe to get some more from tmz about the hoax, we could go onto the tmz site and crank the   "mj: RIP or still alive"   poll up to 100% (i think its at 98% now). I know this article was posted a while ago, but its just an idea to get tmz to notice and talk about it again and then possibly there will be more media coverage on the case. Let me know what you think. :)
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 06:28:01 PM
I don't usually comment very often, but have been following the redirects for a long while.  We do seem to be getting off track.  If Elvis faked his death we know it was to retire.  Michael on the other hand has no such agenda.  Michael's life was in DANGER, why? because of the message that he carried in his music and in the life that he lead.  This thing goes way deeper that just wanting to shock the media and get even with the world for how he was treated.  In fact Michael never has had a get even attitiude at all.  There is no "just wait and see" There is no returning to the stage to shock the world.  There is evil that wanted to take Michael out.  If you haven't seen my YT channel, I will attach it at the bottom.  Michael has had one agenda his whole life.  To bring LOVE and Salvation back into the world, and to help Children and the less fortunate...... Daniel 12: 1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Michael's influence was massive, If he had gotten out on tour with the passion that he had built up inside over the years off stage he would have blown the lid off the agenda of our governments and the people that control them.  There were people that knew what Michael was capable of and what a massive influence he is.  He may have been quite and humble but the man is a genius with a depth on one knows.  He knew the evil that exists.  They couldn't take him down with child abuse charges so they had to go after him directly. Was Michael going to sit by and let this happen, absolutely NOT.  What he has done can NOT compare to Elvis in any way.  

Michael will deliver his message when he is made known to the world, but it will not be in a jump out in your face manner.  There would be pandemonium, and chaos, and danger.  Murry's trial is going to expose some very serious issues.  But the rabbit hole so to speak goes SO much deeper.  Michael knows it is not just about him.  The things that happened to him were so extreme for one human being, but look at how he carried himself.  Who of us could be thrown into a toliet with poop all over the walls and left for 45 mins and when ask how it was, just answer “it’s fine I’m OK”  Only a man that walks and talks with God can endure the things that Michael Joe Jackson has had to endure and keep the beautiful nature that he has.

So when he does make himself known, his agenda will be to bring an awakening to the world of the devastation of the human spirit, not just the planet.  Take a look at “Reflections on the Dance”  I will post the link below, with my YT Link.  Michael is very spiritual and has a close personal relationship with Jesus Christ if you listen to him over the years he has said it many times.  That is what is driving him now and keeping him strong.  But we need to not focus so much on making the media aware that he is alive, because we already know what they are capable of doing with that kind of information, we need to focus on the people around us.  Like starting a wild fire.  If you just convince on individual, you never know how far they will reach and so on and so forth.

Michael said we need to spread the message of Love, not alert the media.  It is done one person at a time.  To who so ever will.  Michael’s reveal will be like Kenny said, piece by piece.  We just have to prepare and be ready to stand with him and know what the focus is about when he is revealed. Elvis has no agenda.  We need to stay focused on the truth of Michael’s purpose. Bam is not reference to his come back, it is reference as to how the truth and magnitude of the revelation he has will affect the world.    Michael was always tied to a contract when performing.  He could never really speak from his heart and mind.  Everything was censored.  He told one on of the dancers on the last day of the film, “This is my show and I am going to do it my way” This was stated in a news article from the dancer’s hometown where they had interviewed him.  

IF TS wants us to be aware of Elvis, it is only in the respect of the fact that it is not impossible to fake a death because it has been done, but that is not what we should be committed to.  It’s all for L.O.V.E.
This statement is made with the greatest of LOVE and RESPECT for everyone.  Please just keep a prayerful mind.  Here are the links to some valuable information. Much LOVE to all….. Victoria

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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 06:49:44 PM
"we are in the same boat. did you see where they put the life jackets? all i can find are the heavy ones with the long sleeves and lots of buckles :shock:"
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Oh thank you Suspicious mind. I keep thinking the same thing about all of this  :lol:

But I believe he's alive and hopefully well.
Are we now past the "you gotta let it simmer" point?

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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 06:57:55 PM
" IF TS wants us to be aware of Elvis, it is only in the respect of the fact that it is not impossible to fake a death because it has been done, but that is not what we should be committed to. It’s all for L.O.V.E."
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Victoria I keep thinking this too, that if it's possible for Elvis to pull off then it looks good for MJ.
The message of L.O.V.E. is the most important part.
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
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Whether you're an Elvis fan or whether or not you care about his death, it doesn't change the probability that Michael is a fan of his and that Michael learned a lot from the 'death' of Elvis. That is undeniable. And try telling an Elvis fan or and Elvis hoaxer that you don't care and you'll be put in your place real fast JUST like MJ fans/hoaxers. It doesn't matter what WE personally think, Michael created this hoax and if Elvis was an inspiration for him then we must embrace that no matter what we believe and no matter what we are comfortable with.

I have been telling my Grandma about the MJ hoax for the past year. She's always a good listener no matter what. But she didn't really start to HEAR my message until I shared all of the Elvis information with her. She loves Elvis like I love MJ. Once I shared everything with her, she started asking lots of questions regarding both their deaths, and she started listening intently on the possible reasons I gave her for MJ to hoax his death.

I realize this is just ONE encounter, just ONE person that has been reached. But if everyONE of us had just ONE conversation like the ones I've been having with my grandmother, then maybe we could make a significant difference in awareness around the world.

My advice for the younger generations here and especially Americans - talk to your elders, especially grandparents! Talk to them about the death of Elvis, try to get a feel for how they already view his death, and go from there. My grandma has always "had a feeling" that Elvis didn't really die, but she never researched it due to lack of resources or a lack of understanding available resources. Some older people aren't as technology savvy as we are, so have a computer on hand to pull up demonstration tools like this website and videos/pictures. When I showed my grandma the picture of "Jesse" - Elvis' new identity - She began to cry before I even explained the photo. She knew it was him and was all ears after that. Some people do not have access to the information we do, so we must share it with them!

I think this is something we can all do. Different audiences need different approaches, that is for sure.  Do it all with love and you can't go wrong.
Thanks for this post, jacilovesmichael, this is great advice.  
I've had similar experiences with others as you did with your grandmother.  While previous conversations had been met with skepticism about MJ's hoax, when I started to link it to Elvis, it suddenly dawned on them, there is really something to this.  It was like a light bulb moment, and far from "muddying the waters", it brought a clarity to the mix and reinforced MJ's message.
These are wise and understanding persons who have had years of "been there, done that" under their belts and they recognize truth when they hear it.  As a recent tweet said, "We older folks get it...We're kinda on the same page as #Elvis and #MJ and it makes perfect sense."
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Re: TIAI 7/14
July 15, 2010, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Whether you're an Elvis fan or whether or not you care about his death, it doesn't change the probability that Michael is a fan of his and that Michael learned a lot from the 'death' of Elvis. That is undeniable. And try telling an Elvis fan or and Elvis hoaxer that you don't care and you'll be put in your place real fast JUST like MJ fans/hoaxers. It doesn't matter what WE personally think, Michael created this hoax and if Elvis was an inspiration for him then we must embrace that no matter what we believe and no matter what we are comfortable with.

Agree...

When I was doing research into the ARK, 777, and The End Times  "warnings", part of my research was finding this Revelation. I wondered "Who" might the two witnesses be?

Now in relation to the "Why Elvis" and connecting it to Michael, reading this Revelation below and insert Elvis and Michael's names where the witnesses goes and read description and it makes sense.

Elvis is very spiritual and so is Michael. Making the truth known to the world about Elvis is about more than just a bam..it is about "the troot will prevail" in ALL things.

Peace

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.

2 But leave out of your measuring the court outside the sanctuary of God; omit that, for it is given over to the Gentiles (the nations), and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months (three and one-half years).

3 And I will grant the power of prophecy to My two witnesses for 1,260 (42 months; three and one-half years), dressed in sackcloth.

4 These [witnesses] are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth.

5 And if anyone attempts to injure them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their enemies; if anyone should attempt to harm them, thus he is doomed to be slain. [II Kings 1:10; Jer. 5:14.]

6 These [two witnesses] have power to shut up the sky, so that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying (their prediction of events relating to Christ's kingdom and its speedy triumph); and they also have power to turn the waters into blood and to smite and scourge the earth with all manner of plagues as often as they choose.

7 But when they have finished their testimony and their evidence is all in, the beast (monster) that comes up out of the Abyss (bottomless pit) will wage war on them, and conquer them and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies [will lie exposed] in the open street [(a public square) of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called [by the mystical and allegorical names of] Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

9 For three and a half days men from the races and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and will not allow them to be put in a tomb.

10 And those who dwell on the earth will gloat and exult over them and rejoice exceedingly, taking their ease and sending presents [in congratulation] to one another, because these two prophets had been such a vexation and trouble and torment to all the dwellers on the earth.

11 But after three and a half days, by God's gift the breath of life again entered into them, and they rose up on their feet, and great dread and terror fell on those who watched them.

12 Then [the two witnesses] heard a strong voice from heaven calling to them, Come up here! And before the very eyes of their enemies they ascended into heaven in a cloud. [II Kings 2:11.]
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