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Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: January 08, 2010, 04:37:37 PM
My quote "The very rich and the very poor and the very famous all get the worst medical care" has been called one of the best quotes of 2009

http://twitter.com/awkmd

Is he having a laugh?
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: January 08, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
he is actually right..
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: January 08, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
my interpritation

THE RICH

rubish plastic surgeries, dr feel goods on hand

THE FAMOUS

easily prescribed stuff, again dr feel goods, can't say NO to.. dodgy DR'S

THE POOR

put to the back of the list, can't afford treatment

therefore all get crapy care.. whereas your average joe takes it in their stride..  

PLUS HE'S ALSO SAYING HE'S A CRAPY DR.. COS HE TREATS THE RICH AND FAMOUS!!  :lol:
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: January 09, 2010, 02:22:05 PM
I really can't explain it but I actually like this guy..I watched his interview on TMZ (or should I say the half of it,cause it's rather difficult to understand him) and I must say I wasn't shocked  as some people.Of course he has a peculiar way to describe some events,but I had the sense that he was at least sincere about what he was talking about
and very smart too.And I believe he has no idea about the hoax.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: January 09, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
If you read the quote he is saying that he gave MJ the "worst medical care" and is, in fact, critisising himself!
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: March 03, 2010, 04:56:24 AM
I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.

http://twitter.com/awkmd
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 06, 2010, 08:07:34 PM
A tweet from Arnold Klein (not sure I spelled his last name correctly)


 
As Michael Jackson's physician for 25 years i can assure the world he could never self-inject. He was needle phobic

What do ya think?  Do you think it's true or is he just trying to save his own skin and trying to get everything to point to CM?
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 06, 2010, 08:37:58 PM
I have always heard that Michael didn't like needles.  But, I guess, after having had several surgeries one might get used to them?  Do I believe he would have injected himself?  No way!
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 06, 2010, 08:44:46 PM
if i understood all that right, murray laid the iv and mike only had to attach the bottle to administer himself. i think that got the wrong wording when they keep writing 'injected himself'.
so arnold is right when he says that michael wouldn't inject himself. the iv was already there.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 06, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 08:24:53 AM
Hi everyone,

I found this on arnie klines Twitter and I thought it was a bit strange. It's probably been picked up by another member or it was reffering to before mike died but I thought I would post it anyway.

awkmd :I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.
about 1 month ago

peace out xxx
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 09:38:32 AM
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To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.

True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port.  So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle.  Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle.  But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.

Do I think he did that?  No, of course not.  But, that is only my opinon.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 10:22:36 AM
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To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.

True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port.  So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle.  Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle.  But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.

Do I think he did that?  No, of course not.  But, that is only my opinon.

no, that's not the point. The point is that there's no way he would be able to self-inject the remainder of the 200 ml propofol. Yes he could've drawn it up in a syringe as bec described, but once propofol enters your body, your out cold within seconds. He would not be able to stay awake long enough to inject all the remaining propofol. And, he was found lying flat on his back and the propofol bottle was no where near his hands. The IV was in his leg = he'd have to sit up and have the leg with the IV bended to reach the IV port, and taken how quickly propofol knocks you out, he wouldn't have time to self inject 200 ml propofol, put the bottle and syringe back and lie down flat on the bed.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 11:38:48 AM
he did not mention that on the TMZ interview have look - it lasts an hours so have a cuppa and some goodies nearby
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 06:06:33 PM
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To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.

True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port.  So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle.  Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle.  But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.

Do I think he did that?  No, of course not.  But, that is only my opinon.

no, that's not the point. The point is that there's no way he would be able to self-inject the remainder of the 200 ml propofol. Yes he could've drawn it up in a syringe as bec described, but once propofol enters your body, your out cold within seconds. He would not be able to stay awake long enough to inject all the remaining propofol. And, he was found lying flat on his back and the propofol bottle was no where near his hands. The IV was in his leg = he'd have to sit up and have the leg with the IV bended to reach the IV port, and taken how quickly propofol knocks you out, he wouldn't have time to self inject 200 ml propofol, put the bottle and syringe back and lie down flat on the bed.

I totally forgot about how quickly the drug works.  You're right, how could he inject all that was left and not be knocked out.  Even if he tried, he might be able to get some of it, but not the whole thing, he'd pass out first, right?

Does anybody know where the syringe was found?  We know the bottle was under a night stand, but what about the syringe that was used to inject.  Supposing MJ or someone else did it?  Or even Murray.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 06:49:44 PM
isn't the syringe on ebay right about now
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 06:55:30 PM
seriously though thank you for this as i wondered if it would be possible.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 07:02:01 PM
I said this before on another thread... If MJ woke up, he's gonna call for Murray not fumble around with a needle and vial while Groggy from waking up from being sedated and other sleepy pills How is he going to even sit up and put the crap in his own IV that is in his leg?  Has anyone ever woken up from anesthesia?  It aint happening! LOL
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 07:20:37 PM
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I said this before on another thread... If MJ woke up, he's gonna call for Murray not fumble around with a needle and vial while Groggy from waking up from being sedated and other sleepy pills How is he going to even sit up and put the crap in his own IV that is in his leg?  Has anyone ever woken up from anesthesia?  It aint happening! LOL

That's my thought too. He's had people tend to his personal needs for years so it's highly unlikely that he'd wake up and just all of a sudden decide to do this himself even though that's supposedly what he was paying Murray to do. These stories are so silly they aren't even funny.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 07, 2010, 08:51:58 PM
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Hi everyone,

I found this on arnie klines Twitter and I thought it was a bit strange. It's probably been picked up by another member or it was reffering to before mike died but I thought I would post it anyway.

awkmd :I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.
about 1 month ago

peace out xxx

Klein twitted that after the "stun gun" incident.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 11, 2010, 07:37:12 PM
HOw is it possible to wake up from anesthesia and be clear enough to find a bottle and have it fixed throug the IV (which is impossible to do) I mean, when you wake up from anesthesia, your brain needs a few minutes to remember where you are. But Michael is so strong that he managed to find out he didn't sleep enough, stand up, find the bottle, prepare the needle (I use needle and they are all in separate package) hav the product inside the syringe, be able to grab his leg to push propofol, AND stay awake while injecting the whole bottle ? Whereas everybody knows that with such product you're out in a few seconds...

And if he was "coke" addict, which means he drank about 5/6 liters a day...how could he be able to get anesthesia without vomiting ? :|

If Michael is really dead and had all this propofol in his body...it's surely not a sefl injection.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: July 11, 2010, 05:54:58 PM
This may have been posted but didn't see it so thought I would share.

From Arnold Klein;
Michael as Budda said, you are a man who spoke & acted with a pure thought. happiness will always be with you like a shadow that never leaves
9:50 AM Jun 25th via web ( i am also wondering if this time 9:50 means something. Arnie himself said on TMZ live that his office (Jason) received a call in the morning that morning that described an event that led to the propofol being administered. He has never elaborated even though Harvey promised to have him back so he could )  

I know this tweet could apply in to someone in death however it is in present tense and even though I have shaken my head at Arnie a lot...this comment is coming from someone who knew Michael so well and for so many years and who had been with Michael through some of his most trying of times...to consistently be someone who speaks and acts with a pure thought is difficult enough for the average person to achieve let alone some one who had been through so much and has seen the most sad sides of life (the orphanges, the early j5 seedy stuff and the joe beatings.) Micahael is very rare....which is why I think we can't bear to have had him here with us and then to have had him slip away.
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: July 13, 2010, 12:28:06 AM
Your words are so true. It is an interesting tweet don't you think? It is not coming from a sad or scared person in my opinion. To me it sounds like he's amazed at what Michael is doing - but not in a bad way. There's no way Michael could be acting in clarity of thought and be on drugs at the same time...those two words are contradictory. I think Dr Klein knows the real truth and he's a willing decoy.

Edit: and 9:50 am. Isn't that just before they say Dr Murray was making his phone calls?
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 15, 2011, 09:16:02 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
Michael Jackson was not ahead of his time, He made the time.

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/59027294982897665
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Re: Arnold Klein Twitter

  • on: April 15, 2011, 09:36:36 PM
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I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.

http://twitter.com/awkmd

michael made him promise when and why?
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