I found THE clue !!! This makes everything clear !!! TII !!!

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ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.


I agree I don't get the excitement? :?   Is the site what everyones excited about or the fact that the theory is he is the Archangel Michael 9and that is what the hoax is about).

Can someone break it down for me LOL I want to be excited TOO :lol:

I think it's because people think something bad is going to happen in 2012 but actually it's not that is what ''they'' are lying to us something big is going to happy L.O.V.E is going to return to this earth, and Archangel Michael kills the devil, the evil and the hate.

That is what I think.
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Was Michael Jackson the Archangel?  
Written by Dr. Firpo W. Carr, (Columnist), on 11-19-2009 00:00
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Was Michael Jackson the Archangel?

Musing Michael the Messenger


To millions of fans spanning the globe Michael Joseph Jackson was angelic. The biblical word "angel" simply means "messenger of God." And if ever God sent a messenger in recent times, loyal fans believe Michael Jackson to be that man. Some feel that among other caring, angelic persons in our lifetime (like Mother Theresa, or lesser known persons from other cultures), Michael stands out as an archangel. This is partly attributable to the sheer magnitude of his influence. Indeed, fans insist he was the principle one or chief (hence "arch-") among those considered to be angelic. In fact, it has been stated that a man's greatness can be measured by that which he has left others to contemplate. By this dictum, Michael Jackson was indeed a great man; an incredibly wonderful human being who reflected the godly qualities of love and generosity on a grand scale. In fact, his very name, "Michael," means, "Who is like God?" But, there is another historical "Michael" who is far more famous than Michael Jackson. Some have even confused the two. Who might this other Michael be?

Who is the other Michael?: The other Michael is a real angel-a spirit creature-mentioned several times in the Bible. He is much more fabulously known by another name, and in another form, which is discussed in detail below. Meanwhile, the first one to mention Michael is Prophet Daniel. He describes "prince" Michael as a powerful spirit creature who stands in behalf of others during "a time of distress," or, "the time of the end." (Daniel 10:13; 11:40; 12:1) Though not mentioning this same Michael specifically by name, Joshua encountered "a man" who twice described himself as the "prince of the army of Jehovah" as the Israelites were about to enter the Promised Land. (Joshua 5:13-15) Jehovah had earlier told Moses: "My angel will go ahead of you" (Exodus 23:23; 32:34; 33:2) as the Children of Israel trekked into "a land flowing with milk and honey." (Exodus 3:8) So, these three "Old Testament" writers-Daniel, Joshua, and Moses-all knew of the powerful prince angel called Michael. Three "New Testament" writers zero in on other clues as to the other identity of the biblical Michael.

Jude reveals that, the same powerful angelic prince Michael that God told Moses about had a confrontation with the Devil over Moses' dead body. "But when Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil," writes Jude, "and was disputing about Moses' body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: 'May Jehovah rebuke you.'" (Jude 9) So, Jude calls Michael the "archangel." But, he is not the first to do so. Years earlier the apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same in this singular text. And just as Jesus encountered the Devil on earth, Michael confronted Satan in heaven. "And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon....So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth." (Revelation 12:7-9) Intriguingly, Michael appears to be Jesus Christ in his pre-human existence. But, is that what Jesus himself said?

A Pre-human Jesus?: "Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." (John 17:5) That's what Jesus had to say about his pre-human existence. On an earlier occasion, identifying himself as the "Son of man," he declared: "No man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man." (John 3:13; compare John 1:51; 6:38, 46, 62; 7:28, 29; 8:23, 26, 28, 38, 42, 58; 14:2) As a pre-human spirit being the man who became Jesus said the following:

"Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth....I was brought forth as with labor pains,...When he prepared the heavens I was there;...I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day,...and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men." (Proverbs 8:22-31) For good reason, many believe these texts allude to Jesus Christ in his pre-human existence. The publication God's "Eternal Purpose" Now Triumphing For Man's Good (1974) states: "Jewish leaders are concerned about the application that may be made of the above Bible verses. In the Soncino Press edition of Proverbs, of 1945, we read in the footnote on this section: 'For the Jewish reader this interpretation is of much importance in view of the Christological use made of this section by the early Church Fathers.'"

Which early Church Fathers? A footnote in the Eternal Purpose book answers: "See Tertullian's 'Against Praxeas.' Therein, in Chapter 7, he says: 'The Son likewise acknowledges the Father, speaking in his own person, under the name of Wisdom: "The LORD formed me as the beginning of his ways."' See also comments on Proverbs 8:22 by Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Athenagoras, Theophilus of Antioch, Clement of Alexandria, Cyprian (The Treatises of), Origen's 'De Principiis,' Dionysius, and Lactantius." All these believed that Proverbs 8:22-31 is code for Jesus Christ, who, being "from time indefinite" (Proverbs 8:23), was eventually born in Bethlehem Ephrathah. Amazingly, his birthplace was prophesied by Prophet Micah, who wrote: "O Bethlehem Ephrathah,... from you there will come out to me the one who is to become ruler in Israel, whose origin is from early times, from the days of time indefinite." (Micah 5:2) Though it was true of Jesus, did others have a pre-human existence?

"Men" With Pre-human Existences?: A mysterious "man" who met with Manoah and his wife (who later became the parents of Samson) was in reality an angel who made two trips-as a "man"-to earth. (Judges 13:1-25) And just as controversy swirls around Michael's parenthood, such was the case in connection with angels who left heaven to father hybrid earth children. Of course, there is no relationship between Michael Jackson and these demon angels! (Genesis 6:1-4) These semen-

producing "sons of God" stayed young and took on new generations of beautiful women as wives. Interestingly, they're never called "men" in Scripture, although they're initially referred to in the masculine gender, and obviously took on the form of men. Not being "born of woman" or "through the woman," apparently they weren't fully human. (Job 14:1; 1 Cor. 11:12) This can be ascertained from the fact that they could shed their "human" bodies, and that their sons were hybrids.

Even so, faithful angels, as noted in the case of the "man" who visited Manoah above, are described as "men," complete with human feelings and needs. (Genesis 18:2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 16; Genesis 19:1, 2-4, 5, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16) Consistently, even the materialized demon angels of Noah's day are "the spirits in prison" who disobeyed God's command not to cohabit with beautiful women. (1 Peter 3:19, 20) They're the same "angels that sinned." (2 Peter 2:4) Yes, they're the very ones "that did not keep their original position, but forsook their own dwelling place." (Jude 6) Indeed, there were "men" who had pre-human existences.  

Finally, the disciple James wrote, "Every good gift and every perfect present is from above." (James 1:17) In giving too many gifts to count, Michael Jackson was most assuredly a "messenger" or "angel" of God. Still, aside from sharing the same name, there is little else that Michael Jackson has in common with Michael the Archangel. The same can be said of a generous, noble minded Latino named Jesus Hernandez and the Lord Jesus Christ. Same name. Different persons. All said, the question can be posed: "Who is like Michael Jackson?" The answer? No one on this earth. And likely no one in this lifetime. Enough said. Amen.
 
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oh my god my head is spinning from reading all of this all this excitment i cant take much more i really hope this is it :)
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are you guys saying that archangel Michael = Michael Jackson?
I mean, that he wants to act LIKE archangel Michael, so we can solve the clues or?? Sorry I'm not following...
 I'm from Belgium so I don't understand every word :')
Anyway, I've done some research on dutch sites and apparently archangel Michael also stands for :

1) Being free ( Makes sense..)
2) Succes


And according to some sites he's the closest angel to god
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Hello people okay, well that is we do research in these things archangel Michael....
if look there now tips .... this is, perhaps, the solution
Help me please now everything has not read....
I will read up it then ....... :oops:
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Mmmm too much coincidence... that painting with Michael riding the horse was yesterday on our local news, they said Michael ordered that painting but he never saw it because he died before it was finished...  :?  and it was purchased by somebody ... maybe it is Michael sending us a message lol !!

I have always wondered why so many people, fans, around the world think the same way ... that Michael is kind of angelic like... he is like an angel to me because he is a good man and that is so hard to find these days... you just have to look at his eyes and there it is.
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SILVANA
Yes he is like an angel....
He has this magic, he shines a little bit unnatural from .... he is real like an angel....
Chances everything again,I cannot believe in so many chances :roll:
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out


LOL...my brain too.

I hope someone can PLEASE explain more clearly...
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out


LOL...my brain too.

I hope someone can PLEASE explain more clearly...

YES WHAT YOU GUYS SAID!!!!!!!Help needed for the Blond girl please
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Thank you Emeraldcity this explains it and now I get it!! Great post!!
yes, thanks Emeraldcity!! :D  great  post indeed!!
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


LMAO!!!! :lol:  :lol:
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


LMAO!!!! :lol:  :lol:
:lol:  :lol: IM NOT A STALKER :lol:
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out


LOL...my brain too.

I hope someone can PLEASE explain more clearly...

And the answer is...
Quote from: "TIIDA11"
apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same

The song "This Is It" lyrics: I Am The Light Of The World, this is real.

Who is the light of the world?
I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)
“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world” (John 9:5)

Names of the Messiah: Light of The World
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus_in_the_New_Testament#Light_of_the_World

From the "This Is It" movie, part of the 'Thriller' segment
The Resurrection of the Dead


The resurrection of dead humans is a central doctrine of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It may refer either to the resurrection of particular individuals, or a general resurrection of humanity.

The idea of resurrection is featured prominently in both Jewish and Christian scripture. There are many passages in the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament which at least later have been considered as referring to the resurrection. Since the first century CE, most of the world associates the concept of resurrection with the resurrection of Jesus. The resurrection of Jesus is elaborated upon throughout the books of the New Testament, although the descriptions do not agree entirely with each other.
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

Rev 20:11-15
Next I saw a large white throne and the one who was sitting on it. The earth and the sky fled from his presence and there was no place for them. I saw the dead, the great and the lowly, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. Then another scroll was opened, the book of life. The dead were judged according to their deeds, by what was written in the scrolls. The sea gave up its dead; then Death and Hades gave up their dead. All the dead were judged according to their deeds. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the pool of fire. (This pool of fire is the second death. ) Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the pool of fire.

Not the End but a New Beginning
Rev 21:1-8
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with the human race. He will dwell with them and they will be his people and God himself will always be with them (as their God). He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death or mourning, wailing or pain, (for) the old order has passed away." The one who sat on the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Then he said, "Write these words down, for they are trustworthy and true." He said to me, "They are accomplished. I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
http://http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090600.htm
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!

Ok, here is what I am getting from all of this.  Although Michael was angelic, I don't believe he is the ACTUAL Archangel Michael.  I think this is maybe a clue that his return will be spiritual in nature as well as physical.  

Michael was very devout and well-read.   I would not put it past Michael to be planning his comeback in this fashion.  If you read through a lot of the Archangel Michael information, it does coincide with some of the clues we have been finding, especially when it comes to the movie, This Is It.  I am sure Michael has done A LOT of research on religion and his namesake, Archangel Michael.

Anyway, that is my take on the whole situation.
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Sooo........are you saying that Michael is a Messiah?? Im still confused. Someone needs to explain this cus I really wanna know.
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And the answer is...
Quote from: "TIIDA11"
apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same

The song "This Is It" lyrics: I Am The Light Of The World, this is real.

Who is the light of the world?
I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)
“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world” (John 9:5)

Names of the Messiah: Light of The World
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus_in_the_New_Testament#Light_of_the_World


just...woooww  :shock:  :shock:   :shock:
that makes sense .. a little  ;)
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Ok, good find. It is interesting.
But what do you make of it? Do you think Michael made this website? I mean...everyone could have done it..?!
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Sooo........are you saying that Michael is a Messiah?? Im still confused. Someone needs to explain this cus I really wanna know.

I am not saying anything, I just feel there are enough clues pointing toward something. There are paintings, the song, the movie, the archangel material (colors, spider etc), the "this is also it" redirects to bible quotes, Michael's "Crucifiction" in the press (a term used a lot to describe his treatment), and other messages and clues. No one can tell you what to believe you have to put the pieces together and decide for yourself. Question is, what does it all mean to you?
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!

Ok, here is what I am getting from all of this.  Although Michael was angelic, I don't believe he is the ACTUAL Archangel Michael.  I think this is maybe a clue that his return will be spiritual in nature as well as physical.  

Michael was very devout and well-read.   I would not put it past Michael to be planning his comeback in this fashion.  If you read through a lot of the Archangel Michael information, it does coincide with some of the clues we have been finding, especially when it comes to the movie, This Is It.  I am sure Michael has done A LOT of research on religion and his namesake, Archangel Michael.

Anyway, that is my take on the whole situation.
This is what I think, too... !!!!
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ummmm.............


k..............


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Sooo........are you saying that Michael is a Messiah?? Im still confused. Someone needs to explain this cus I really wanna know.

I am not saying anything, I just feel there are enough clues pointing toward something. There are paintings, the song, the movie, the archangel material (colors, spider etc), the "this is also it" redirects to bible quotes, Michael's "Crucifiction" in the press (a term used a lot to describe his treatment), and other messages and clues. No one can tell you what to believe you have to put the pieces together and decide for yourself. Question is, what does it all mean to you?


I think I understand now....and all I can say is WOW. Im speechless.......Im excited to find out whats going to happen!!
But WHEN will it happen? Do you know?
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Make that 4 :shock: Boy,this is to much for me after along day at work...
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