I found THE clue !!! This makes everything clear !!! TII !!!

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Offline Whitesocks

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OMG I think i found it.......this is REAL

First: coincidence????

Check this from this site.....http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/

I copy/past for you: MUST READ !!!

this is it.“I hold up my sword of truth and I am calling you. Together we are a powerful group. You have been powerful working alone, but together you are a great and mighty force that can change matter. I am telling you that together we will change matter and that matter is the hardness of the hearts of humanity. Alone you have been powerful; together we will not only change people’s hearts, but also change the thinking process of those who are not living in love. This is your calling in general: to change hearts towards love and to melt the coldness that has been operational for too long on this planet. But you knew from the very beginning that there would be a time of the gathering, and THIS IS IT.

I gather all of you: you come with each of your skills and you add them to those of your sisters’ and brothers. Your skills will be used in concert to change world events. This, dear hearts, is the factor of change in conjunction with my force of mighty blue light. To my blue light you will add the white and golden light of the Godhead, and these rays will infiltrate the world until they ignite the pink ray.

The pink ray of love will permeate all on Earth and will transmute any thoughts not of God. Those who go against this avalanche of thought will certainly be of a nature which will choose defiance against God, and they will not be allowed to create their errors in the new life that is coming to humanity.

You will also advance in your undertaking as a group. United, you will become even more powerful as all of your sisters and brothers add their piece of divine love to the group. Each has experienced divine love in a different manner. Does it not surprise you to know that if there is so much diversity in creation, in general, that there would be much diversity in the manner that you have incorporated love into your chakra systems? So, in a sense, you might say that you have been carrying a piece of some grand puzzle, and now is the time to put all of the pieces together. You will be united, in part, by offering inspiration first to your brothers and sisters; this will inflame their hearts with the pink ray which will then go forth to be united with the pink rays coming from other hearts. This will become an intense blaze of divine love permeating every particle on Earth, even to its core.

At that moment of unity, the love will be bounced back to divine Source in the center of the cosmos, and that will be the signal that all is ready for the dividing of the veil of separation between the two dimensions. By then all will be acclimated to the higher Earth, and finally the two dimensions will separate as if in a divine birthing process of glory.

It will be a divine moment of love, and it will fire the skies as a new creation comes to this part of the universe. We have been waiting for this epiphany for a very long time, and we anticipate this event most anxiously. The time is nearly upon us, and we glory at the thought of it. This is the moment when we shall all see one another; we will all remember a time when life was lived in abundance, and it will be a part of all of us again.”
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:o wow must check sometimes.......
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Yes THIS IS IT !!!!

Now i need to get my children to bed...... oh i want to do research... i'm totally out of control now....
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This cannot be coincidence !!!!
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:o  ok gonna check that site NOW!!
thanks for posting this oetoort!!!
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I don't know how to sign up to that site.  If anyone here does, keep us posted.
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I found the painting: Michael with a sward on a horse (archangel Michael)

Its a painting made by Kehinde Wiley
http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/33402 ... art-basel/


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erm... i really don't know what to make of it now... anyway here's another site which mntions both MJ and this Carolyn Evers lady:

http://www.the2012countdown.com/Rock_Yo ... d_2012.php

Frankly, it looks kinda loony, but you never know :)
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check the site, read the message and you'll know !!!

We have to learn more about archangel Michael
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By the way..the angel you see at this site reminds me of the angel from this live version of  you are not alone (were MJ cries) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObPytHae2CI
You'll see the angel at the end (thanks to http://michaeljacksonhoax.hyves.nl/foru ... e_video_s/)


NO coincidence to me..this must be it, no doubt about it
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Great finding!
Maybe THIS IS IT
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we have to do research about archangel MICHAEL... and we will find the answer. I'm sure.
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And what we see here
Number 7 is coming again (july is the 7th mont)
http://www.ronnastar.com/starquest2.html

No..we much do more research to this, please help...this is IT i assure you !!!!!!!!!!!
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please...someone with the foreign language, please check this site...it has a lot of clues.. we are close http://www.ronnastar.com/starquest2.html
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I try to help, however comes to me before on this side they want to sell only (books...) :oops:
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NO, just see the message: But you knew from the very beginning that there would be a time of the gathering, and THIS IS IT.
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Okay, I try my best ...... let us to him follow ;)
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Wow, great finding Oetoort !!!  :shock:
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let everyone KNOW about this and HELP

This IS IT... i'm positive
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does the LIBRA brings us to Liberian girl??????

 I trie to go to sleep now...it's 9:15 am now.....in Holland
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i call off for today// tomorrow more investigation and i need help with it...
CU tomorrow L.O.V.E.
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"Great Prince who stands for the children of your people"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel)
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Quote from: "Oetoort"
OMG I think i found it.......this is REAL

First: coincidence????

Check this from this site.....http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/

I copy/past for you: MUST READ !!!

this is it.“I hold up my sword of truth and I am calling you. Together we are a powerful group. You have been powerful working alone, but together you are a great and mighty force that can change matter. I am telling you that together we will change matter and that matter is the hardness of the hearts of humanity. Alone you have been powerful; together we will not only change people’s hearts, but also change the thinking process of those who are not living in love. This is your calling in general: to change hearts towards love and to melt the coldness that has been operational for too long on this planet. But you knew from the very beginning that there would be a time of the gathering, and THIS IS IT.

I gather all of you: you come with each of your skills and you add them to those of your sisters’ and brothers. Your skills will be used in concert to change world events. This, dear hearts, is the factor of change in conjunction with my force of mighty blue light. To my blue light you will add the white and golden light of the Godhead, and these rays will infiltrate the world until they ignite the pink ray.

The pink ray of love will permeate all on Earth and will transmute any thoughts not of God. Those who go against this avalanche of thought will certainly be of a nature which will choose defiance against God, and they will not be allowed to create their errors in the new life that is coming to humanity.

You will also advance in your undertaking as a group. United, you will become even more powerful as all of your sisters and brothers add their piece of divine love to the group. Each has experienced divine love in a different manner. Does it not surprise you to know that if there is so much diversity in creation, in general, that there would be much diversity in the manner that you have incorporated love into your chakra systems? So, in a sense, you might say that you have been carrying a piece of some grand puzzle, and now is the time to put all of the pieces together. You will be united, in part, by offering inspiration first to your brothers and sisters; this will inflame their hearts with the pink ray which will then go forth to be united with the pink rays coming from other hearts. This will become an intense blaze of divine love permeating every particle on Earth, even to its core.

At that moment of unity, the love will be bounced back to divine Source in the center of the cosmos, and that will be the signal that all is ready for the dividing of the veil of separation between the two dimensions. By then all will be acclimated to the higher Earth, and finally the two dimensions will separate as if in a divine birthing process of glory.

It will be a divine moment of love, and it will fire the skies as a new creation comes to this part of the universe. We have been waiting for this epiphany for a very long time, and we anticipate this event most anxiously. The time is nearly upon us, and we glory at the thought of it. This is the moment when we shall all see one another; we will all remember a time when life was lived in abundance, and it will be a part of all of us again.”



WOW!!  :o   As I checked the site the first thing I noticed was the banner!!! History, Past present future and then this statue!! NO THIS CAN NOT BE COINCIDENCE!!  I'm Shocked...in a positive way
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me too

please help find out everything about arch michael !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need sleep..now it's 10.10 pm... and my mind is spinning
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Quote from: "Oetoort"
I found the painting: Michael with a sward on a horse (archangel Michael)

Its a painting made by Kehinde Wiley
http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/33402 ... art-basel/



I always felt that there was something slightly going on here. This is no coincedence, it all fits. It also links into a very significant and lucid dream I had a few weeks ago where to cut a long story short, the world changed suddenly and it was like being inside a disney movie and there were bright pink cartoon elephants parading through the streets. There was music and everyone was elated at our new world. As the cartoon parade went passed me there was a man in a black cloak, playing the flute and he was on horseback. He stared me deep in the eye and winked at me and carried on. I have never seen this picture before and it does seem to fit. There is more to this dream and it was definitely about Michael's return. This is giving me goosebumps. This dream was unbelievably real.  What a great post. This is talking in present time, I will have to look further.
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isn't the archangel Michael supposed to be the one to slay Lucifer during Armageddon? Michael's sword is supposed to be what kills him right? I am not overly religious (well not religious at all), but for some reason I remember this.
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When was this book written and published and when did it appear on the web?   I think that is important
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http://spithate.com/2009/09/24/archange ... l-jackson/

Anyone know when this was painted? Where? By who?
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Quote from: "Oetoort"
OMG I think i found it.......this is REAL

First: coincidence????

Check this from this site.....http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/

I copy/past for you: MUST READ !!!

this is it.“I hold up my sword of truth and I am calling you. Together we are a powerful group. You have been powerful working alone, but together you are a great and mighty force that can change matter. I am telling you that together we will change matter and that matter is the hardness of the hearts of humanity. Alone you have been powerful; together we will not only change people’s hearts, but also change the thinking process of those who are not living in love. This is your calling in general: to change hearts towards love and to melt the coldness that has been operational for too long on this planet. But you knew from the very beginning that there would be a time of the gathering, and THIS IS IT.

I gather all of you: you come with each of your skills and you add them to those of your sisters’ and brothers. Your skills will be used in concert to change world events. This, dear hearts, is the factor of change in conjunction with my force of mighty blue light. To my blue light you will add the white and golden light of the Godhead, and these rays will infiltrate the world until they ignite the pink ray.

The pink ray of love will permeate all on Earth and will transmute any thoughts not of God. Those who go against this avalanche of thought will certainly be of a nature which will choose defiance against God, and they will not be allowed to create their errors in the new life that is coming to humanity.

You will also advance in your undertaking as a group. United, you will become even more powerful as all of your sisters and brothers add their piece of divine love to the group. Each has experienced divine love in a different manner. Does it not surprise you to know that if there is so much diversity in creation, in general, that there would be much diversity in the manner that you have incorporated love into your chakra systems? So, in a sense, you might say that you have been carrying a piece of some grand puzzle, and now is the time to put all of the pieces together. You will be united, in part, by offering inspiration first to your brothers and sisters; this will inflame their hearts with the pink ray which will then go forth to be united with the pink rays coming from other hearts. This will become an intense blaze of divine love permeating every particle on Earth, even to its core.

At that moment of unity, the love will be bounced back to divine Source in the center of the cosmos, and that will be the signal that all is ready for the dividing of the veil of separation between the two dimensions. By then all will be acclimated to the higher Earth, and finally the two dimensions will separate as if in a divine birthing process of glory.

It will be a divine moment of love, and it will fire the skies as a new creation comes to this part of the universe. We have been waiting for this epiphany for a very long time, and we anticipate this event most anxiously. The time is nearly upon us, and we glory at the thought of it. This is the moment when we shall all see one another; we will all remember a time when life was lived in abundance, and it will be a part of all of us again.”



If you look at the blog it says that their communications come from Mikael. Wasn't it said in the media that Michael changed his name to Mikael?????   This could very well be for real!!!
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If I am not mistaken didn't that user BACK post something about archangel michael or something like that.

WHERE IS PAMMY WHEN YOU NEED HER!
Pammy I'm callin you out!  :lol:
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omg...great find...how in the world did you find this???????it has to be,..omg im gonna faint. can't breathe :o  :o  :o
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Quote from: "Doreen316"
isn't the archangel Michael supposed to be the one to slay Lucifer during Armageddon? Michael's sword is supposed to be what kills him right? I am not overly religious (well not religious at all), but for some reason I remember this.

If that is true, maybe this has something to do with the Illuminati and 2012.

I will say this once here, and probably never again because it's really a bit far fetched but I kinda think it could happen.  :geek:

If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.

Thereeee we go. There's one of my theories  :lol:
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Some Additional Background on Angels

The Great Archangels represent the seven primary feelings, or Aspects and Attributes of The Creator that must be developed within the nature of Humankind in order to attain Masterhood. They bring forth the fuel (love energy) of God."

Michael became a master at the age of 38.  There is a book written about him that explains the qualifications and why he was chosen.  The picture of him at the Memorial Service is from the cover of that book.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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When was this book written and published and when did it appear on the web?   I think that is important

anyone know?
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OMG - It makes perfect sense.  Maybe Michael was fasting for a purpose too magnificent to understand.  The blue light in TII.  Wow.  This is amazing.  I love it.  I have always said that Michael was a Godsend.  He was not here by chance.  I've always called him earth angel.  OMG, this is fantastic!
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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isn't the archangel Michael supposed to be the one to slay Lucifer during Armageddon? Michael's sword is supposed to be what kills him right? I am not overly religious (well not religious at all), but for some reason I remember this.

If that is true, maybe this has something to do with the Illuminati and 2012.

I will say this once here, and probably never again because it's really a bit far fetched but I kinda think it could happen.  :geek:

If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.

Thereeee we go. There's one of my theories  :lol:

I love you :mrgreen:
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Carolyn Evers has a radio show called "The Messenger", the website listed in the OP goes back to May 10, 2006 on the wayback machine. When I googled the book the first link that came up was www.the2012countdown.com also check out this site http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/index.html I am still looking for the date that the original book was published.
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As I noticed, this book is copyrighted 2006. Do you really think, it could refer to TII? I don't know what to think anymore, my head is spinning around!!!!
So...Michael is Archangel Michael or Mikaeel? Did he really write those lines himself????
I guess, I'm getting ready for the mental hospital, really! :shock:  :o
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THIS IS IT! :shock:
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OMG I think i found it.......this is REAL

First: coincidence????

Check this from this site.....http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/

I copy/past for you: MUST READ !!!

this is it.“I hold up my sword of truth and I am calling you. Together we are a powerful group. You have been powerful working alone, but together you are a great and mighty force that can change matter. I am telling you that together we will change matter and that matter is the hardness of the hearts of humanity. Alone you have been powerful; together we will not only change people’s hearts, but also change the thinking process of those who are not living in love. This is your calling in general: to change hearts towards love and to melt the coldness that has been operational for too long on this planet. But you knew from the very beginning that there would be a time of the gathering, and THIS IS IT.

I gather all of you: you come with each of your skills and you add them to those of your sisters’ and brothers. Your skills will be used in concert to change world events. This, dear hearts, is the factor of change in conjunction with my force of mighty blue light. To my blue light you will add the white and golden light of the Godhead, and these rays will infiltrate the world until they ignite the pink ray.

The pink ray of love will permeate all on Earth and will transmute any thoughts not of God. Those who go against this avalanche of thought will certainly be of a nature which will choose defiance against God, and they will not be allowed to create their errors in the new life that is coming to humanity.

You will also advance in your undertaking as a group. United, you will become even more powerful as all of your sisters and brothers add their piece of divine love to the group. Each has experienced divine love in a different manner. Does it not surprise you to know that if there is so much diversity in creation, in general, that there would be much diversity in the manner that you have incorporated love into your chakra systems? So, in a sense, you might say that you have been carrying a piece of some grand puzzle, and now is the time to put all of the pieces together. You will be united, in part, by offering inspiration first to your brothers and sisters; this will inflame their hearts with the pink ray which will then go forth to be united with the pink rays coming from other hearts. This will become an intense blaze of divine love permeating every particle on Earth, even to its core.

At that moment of unity, the love will be bounced back to divine Source in the center of the cosmos, and that will be the signal that all is ready for the dividing of the veil of separation between the two dimensions. By then all will be acclimated to the higher Earth, and finally the two dimensions will separate as if in a divine birthing process of glory.

It will be a divine moment of love, and it will fire the skies as a new creation comes to this part of the universe. We have been waiting for this epiphany for a very long time, and we anticipate this event most anxiously. The time is nearly upon us, and we glory at the thought of it. This is the moment when we shall all see one another; we will all remember a time when life was lived in abundance, and it will be a part of all of us again.”


If you go to conclave info from this site you can ask him questions and have a personal reading :)

Archangel Michael's Conclave
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Excalibur

The Internet is a new world of communication, and spirit is using this method, as well as any other possible means, to further our advancement to ascension. Our time has come and we rejoice at this moment!

Archangel Michael stands here holding his sword of truth ever so high. We will all be able to see and feel his leadership, no matter where we might reside in this most beautiful world.

I dedicate this blog to our leader and inspiration, Archangel Michael, and to all lightworkers in the world, as this is our meeting place where we can come together and, in our sharing of thoughts, light each other’s way.

In the beginning, Matia and I will share our experiences with you as to how Archangel Michael has entered our lives and how our relationship with him has evolved. We invite the real Archangel Michael to stand up and communicate with us as the brother and friend that he truly is.

Religious art throughout the centuries has placed an unattainable mystique around our guardian, protector, and friend, but now he steps through the mist, leaving the pedestal behind and extending his hands to us.

First, read his thoughts recorded in Earth History, Past, Present & Future, and then come forth and present your questions to him. He promises to answer them to the group as long as they are of a general nature. Later we will offer personal readings with him. He says, “Ask only those questions you truly want answered,” as he will hold nothing back, nor will he sugarcoat his answers.
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Quote from: "dexember"
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isn't the archangel Michael supposed to be the one to slay Lucifer during Armageddon? Michael's sword is supposed to be what kills him right? I am not overly religious (well not religious at all), but for some reason I remember this.

If that is true, maybe this has something to do with the Illuminati and 2012.

I will say this once here, and probably never again because it's really a bit far fetched but I kinda think it could happen.  :geek:

If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.

Thereeee we go. There's one of my theories  :lol:

I agree with your theorie!
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ARCHANGEL MICHAEL,
LIKE UNTO GOD
(Saint Michael Archangel, Angel Michael)

 
The Archangel Michael is the closest to the Lord in the Jewish scriptures, for his very name means "Like Unto God." As the eldest Archangel, he is given captaincy of all of God's natural phenomena, including rain, wind, fire, snow, thunder, lightning, and hail. Michael is believed by many Jews to have appeared to Moses as the fire in the burning bush and to have led Daniel from the lions' den.

In the Christian Bible, Michael is said to be the Angel who told the Virgin Mary of her approaching death.

According to Muslims, Michael's body is covered with fine hairs and each one, like a tongue, implores the Mercy of Allah on behalf of sinners.

As the Archangel of battle and defender of Heaven, Michael is said to be the Patron Saint of policemen. Additionally, because it is said in the Book of Revelations that Michael will lead God's troops against the dragon and his angels at the final battle, many people seek the aid of Michael against wrong-doers on Earth and all people in need of protection from crime or from physical or spiritual enemies may petition the Archangel for help -- and many have reported benefits from keeping an Angel Michael novena candle burning in the home.

 

The picture of the Angel Michael at the upper left on this page is taken from a Lucky Mojo brand Catholic novena candle label. The picture at lower right is from an Italian Catholic holy card in which the Archangel is referred to as "Saint Michael Archangel," a typical example of Catholic appropriation of Jewish angelology. Both images are based on a famous painting by the Italian Renaissance artist Guido Reni. They depict the powerful spirit-being Michael Archangel as an armed and battle-ready defender of Heaven and Earth against the eternal enmity of the Adversary.

Because of Michael's eminent position, holy cards, religious chromo prints, pewter holy medals and aluminum wallet cards, candles, and anointing oils bearing the likeness of this archangel have long been available in the marketplace. These are used by spiritual practitioners who wish to keep the image of Michael before them as a simple adjunct to their prayers and devotions. It is said that those who light a novena candle to the Archangel Michael and recite the 91st Psalm will be under his protection as long as the candle burns.

There are a total of seven Archangels according to ancient Jewish beliefs -- one for each day of the week. The four best known are Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel (Oriel) -- and in African American hoodoo folk magic or rootwork, two of them are associated with a powerful natural curio called Angelica Root or Archangel Root. Archangel Michael, the eldest, is used with Angelica Root as a defender of women. Archangel Gabriel who is concerned with the announcements of pregnancy, is allied with this root in its role as an herbal tonic for women's reproductive health.

Here is a short excerpt from my book Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic in which help is sought from the Archangels:

BAY LEAF For Victory: The LAUREL wreath was an ancient
symbol of triumph, and so folks brew Bay LAUREL tea
into which they dissolve Crown of Success Bath
Crystals. This spiritual bath is poured over the
heads of supplicants while praying for victory in
sports, politics, and war. Folks also say that if
you take three fresh BAY leaves and with ink write
the Names of the Archangels Michael, Gabriel, and
Raphael, one on each leaf, then wrap and tie the Name-
Leaves in white cloth and carry them, you will win in
sports contests. (Why the fourth Archangel, Oriel (Uriel),
is left off, i do not know, except perhaps because he was
not among the Archangels who appeared to Abraham.)
Also from the book Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic comes this old-time conjuration of Saint Michael Archangel for protection from evil:

Home Protection Packets: In New Orleans, conjures used to
sew small cloth packets filled with GRAINS OF PARADISE and
glue or crochet a holy card of Michael the Archangel to
them. These were sold in pairs, one to be placed at the
front door and one at the back door, for the protection of
the home.
It is my hope that the following prayer to the Archangel Michael will be of use to all, and will find service among those who request the intercession of this great and powerful heavenly being.


PRAYER TO ARCHANGEL MICHAEL
For Protetction from Evil

Great Archangel Michael Archangel, defend us in battle,
be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the
devil.

May God rebuke our enemies, we humbly pray; and
do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of
God, thrust into Hell the Adversary and all other evil
spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of
souls.

Amen.
When a divine spirit grants your wish, it is customary, to give an offering of some kind in return. Because Archangel Michael, Who is Like God, Bulwark of Heaven is generally depicted as the protector of the weak, it is considered appropriate to make a contribution to your local police force or community watch program, or to a shelter for the victims of violent crime, as a thank-offering.




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91st Psalm

 

He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

 sorry for the long post however this is all i could really "find" and i went ahead and posted the 91st psalm too as the description referrences to it also,anybody see anything remotely helpful?i picked up on the 7 archangels part but nothing else REALLY clicks for me anyone else?



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Quote from: "dexember"
If I am not mistaken didn't that user BACK post something about archangel michael or something like that.

WHERE IS PAMMY WHEN YOU NEED HER!
Pammy I'm callin you out!  :lol:


YES sir.  I´m available!  :mrgreen:

here is what BACK posted about Archangel Michael!

I KNEW i was right! YES!!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/video-s-hoa ... -t3937.htm

Can somebody please help me with this page here? I´m trying to find the date when this was posted:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Archangel-Micha ... son-Island
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[size=200]Act as if what you do makes a difference.  It does.[/size]



[size=200]A snowflake is one of God\'s most fragile creations, but look what they can do when they stick together![/size]

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Quote from: "Pammy"
Quote from: "dexember"
If I am not mistaken didn't that user BACK post something about archangel michael or something like that.

WHERE IS PAMMY WHEN YOU NEED HER!
Pammy I'm callin you out!  :lol:


YES sir.  I´m available!  :mrgreen:

here is what BACK posted about Archangel Michael!

I KNEW i was right! YES!!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/video-s-hoa ... -t3937.htm

Can somebody please help me with this page here? I´m trying to find the date when this was posted:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Archangel-Micha ... son-Island

Pammy, do you have a link to the video of 'love is my message' in your signature? It looks so cute!
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\'Stop Existing And Start Living\'
\'This Life Don\'t Last Forever .. Hold My Hand\'
I LOVE you Michael x


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:mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  Yes i love his smile!

here you go [youtube:3axk1vfj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zo4kW9bjTU[/youtube:3axk1vfj]
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[size=200]A snowflake is one of God\'s most fragile creations, but look what they can do when they stick together![/size]

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Also found this:

http://www.the2012countdown.com/Rock_Yo ... d_2012.php

Weird!!!!!!!! :shock:
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I am obsessed with a man I have never met, yet, I feel like I have known him forever.

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This is definitely it, Love L.O.V.E is coming back to this earth, the world is going to be what it once was before all the hate and judgements began!

Take a look at this:
http://www.2012hoax.org/
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This is the moment. This is it.

K.
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  • BE LOVE..LIVE LOVE! I LOVE you all, so very much!
ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.
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AHH this makes sense. I forgot what channel I was watching yesterday, but they were talking about the book Michael Jackson's opus and there was a picture of MJ as the archangel. I have to find it the picture. I think there just might be a lot of truth behind THIS.
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Quote from: "B-LIEves"
AHH this makes sense. I forgot what channel I was watching yesterday, but they were talking about the book Michael Jackson's opus and there was a picture of MJ as the archangel. I have to find it the picture. I think there just might be a lot of truth behind THIS.



is this the one you are looking for?  :P  :P
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Quote from: "mjj4ever777"
ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.


I agree I don't get the excitement? :?   Is the site what everyones excited about or the fact that the theory is he is the Archangel Michael 9and that is what the hoax is about).

Can someone break it down for me LOL I want to be excited TOO :lol:
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MAKE THAT CHANGE!!

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Quote from: "JENNYAPPLEHEAD"
Quote from: "mjj4ever777"
ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.


I agree I don't get the excitement? :?   Is the site what everyones excited about or the fact that the theory is he is the Archangel Michael 9and that is what the hoax is about).

Can someone break it down for me LOL I want to be excited TOO :lol:

Can I be part of this "I don't get it" group?  :D
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Quote from: "doreentbird"
Quote from: "B-LIEves"
AHH this makes sense. I forgot what channel I was watching yesterday, but they were talking about the book Michael Jackson's opus and there was a picture of MJ as the archangel. I have to find it the picture. I think there just might be a lot of truth behind THIS.



is this the one you are looking for?  :P  :P

No, no, no. In the book it has a picture of Michael surrounded by other angels and he looks like he did in the You Are Not Alone vid. I tried googling it, but no luck. I'm still searching. Thanks for your help though! If you find it before me, post it!
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Quote from: "mjj29081958"
Quote from: "JENNYAPPLEHEAD"
Quote from: "mjj4ever777"
ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.


I agree I don't get the excitement? :?   Is the site what everyones excited about or the fact that the theory is he is the Archangel Michael 9and that is what the hoax is about).

Can someone break it down for me LOL I want to be excited TOO :lol:

Can I be part of this "I don't get it" group?  :D


 :D  :lol:  :?   Welcome to the club!
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MAKE THAT CHANGE!!

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To help some understand I would suggest Googling some links on the Archangel Michael. Then try to relate it to our loved MJ and see how the two overlap. It will help you come to your own truth.
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Before the last version of the MJHD forum crashed I had this ready to post.  It's on the subject of ARCHANGELS in relation to the hoax and I think it's fairly self-explanatory so I'll just paste it in below.  As they say, better late than never! ...

Physically, the Archangel Michael has been described as young, strong and handsome; tall and militant with firm, chiseled facial features and eyes that look like pools of fire.  His skin has been described as the color of copper which radiates and glows from being in the Presence of God.  He has been depicted standing admist a girdle of stars, clothed in a SCARLET tunic and armour of chain mail hewn in GOLD.  Michael is sometimes seen wearing a breast plate with the regal majesty of a mighty LION or a flaming dragon emblazoned across it in burnished gold.  The Lion represents the symbol of LEO, which indicates almighty power, living energy, courage and passion for life.  The dragon represents the symbol of our fear, which is so easily slain if confronted with hope and courage.[/i]

Through many succeeding cycles of time, as Ray after Ray provided The Pathway for the descent of new Spirits, Archangel Michael has remained as the Guardian Overlord of the Angelic Host, the Elemental Kingdom and humanity. He shall not fold his Cosmic Wings about him to return home until the final Angelic Being is freed, the last man is redeemed and the last Elemental returned to its perfect state. This is the love of Archangel Michael, who like many others, is a Prisoner of Love to the life he serves.  He sees this as his MISSION ... a Mission of Love ... all for L.O.V.E.

Once again relating this back to the Memorial/Funeral:  the Jackson brothers wore yellow/gold ties and the casket flowers were red. There was a picture of Michael in a red shirt on the set of “Liberian Girl”.  These colors were to signify those attributed to the Archangel Michael.  It is interesting to note that at the funeral these colors were reversed so there were red ties worn and the flowers this time were yellow on a gold casket.  Similarly, a picture displayed at the funeral was of Michael in a yellow shirt.  This was to signify the .  Moving forward to the movie "This Is It" … we see luminous green light displayed in several scenes.  Green is the color of healing and is associated with the Archangel Raphael, whose name in Hebrew means “God cures” and whose elemental colour is Emerald Green.  The other Archangels are also healers who come as master surgeons to mend our souls and four lower bodies - etheric, mental, emotional and physical.  The most familiar Archangels serve on the SEVEN rays of spiritual light that correspond to the light focused within the SEVEN major chakras in man.

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If you've got this far some of you are possibly scratching your head and wondering "so what is the significance of the Archangels to the hoax?"  And my answer is simply this:  "to lead us to a greater understanding of our true purpose here on earth.  To help us understand more fully Michael Jackson's words when he said "it's all for love - L.O.V.E."  To guide us through the challenging times ahead as we prepare to enter this next very significant cycle in human history (Solar Cycle 24) as predicted by the ancient Mayans who were entrusted with the secrets of the Universe and a blueprint for the divine destiny of Planet Earth.

I believe Michael Jackson had a very important reason for hoaxing his death ... I'd even go so far as saying he had a SACRED reason.  However don’t forget that in the movie he says “This is an adventure – a great adventure.  We want to take them to places they’ve never been before, show them talent like they’ve never seen before.  We have to bring love back into the world.”  This was/is a positive message.  Michael also said “There’s nothing to be nervous about.”  He is inviting us to go on a journey with him and he will be there beside us, encouraging us, and lifting us up just as the Archangel Michael will defend all those who put their trust in him.

For further reading go to these links:

http://www.greatdreams.com/archangels.htm
http://www.steliart.com/angelology_arch ... cheia.html
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Thank you Emeraldcity this explains it and now I get it!! Great post!!
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Thank you Emeraldcity!!!
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OMG!  This is so on the money!  Thank you!  
I just read lasentinel column by Dr. Carr about Michael the Archangel today!
And Michael...L.O.V.E. on LKL told me to read this today!
He also asked me a couple days ago if I knew
what the three crystal 7's on his red shirt in TII meant?
Could the Archangel have some meaning to the 7's?
Cause I originally thought they were about dates and such. :?
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Michael Jackson and Carolyn Evers...I want to know more about their true connection. Need more research... ;)
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And this was the last piece of art he purchased before the "passing"... the Archangel
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WOW ! This Is It ! It's 100% Michael Jackson...it cannot be just a coincidence.This deserves a little research.
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Quote from: "Pammy"
Quote from: "dexember"
If I am not mistaken didn't that user BACK post something about archangel michael or something like that.

WHERE IS PAMMY WHEN YOU NEED HER!
Pammy I'm callin you out!  :lol:


YES sir.  I´m available!  :mrgreen:

here is what BACK posted about Archangel Michael!

I KNEW i was right! YES!!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/video-s-hoa ... -t3937.htm

Can somebody please help me with this page here? I´m trying to find the date when this was posted:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Archangel-Micha ... son-Island



Of a tHeOrY or Vision
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As one who embodies "vision" past 20/20, occurrences of the future are often "experienced". But many times this "experience" comes in the form of internal jolts, indicative of something of great significance. Séance hoaxes are not applicable.There are tIMEs when details are sparse, but abundant enough to "see" the grandness, just as it was in this magnetism towards the tHeOrY of sEVEN.

Exit Angel Gabriel----enter Angel Michael

Luke 1:36

"And in the sixth month the angel (Gabri)el was sent from God unto a city......
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph..."
And in the sixth month the angel (Micha)el was “statused” by God in a city...(of Angels)
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph.

On 6-25-09, tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. I could always "see" a Silhouette on a Grand-stage, once again taking over the World. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a "comeback", but a take-over. This was it. And in a thunderous sense,----- it was. It just didn't dawn on me that that Grand Stage would be in the Heavens; A visual Staple-d to the Center of our minds for all eternity.

Physically--no more, but with us in an eternal Angelic presence. We witnessed the beginning of this transfer on 7/7 of this historical year.

As History has shown, reflected through the books and logics of many faiths, Prophets do and have walked amongst us. They have sometimes been Angels in the temporary casts of both tIME and human flesh. And in their allotted tIME, their purposes have most often been message DeLIVErance.


In the separation of major tIME factions in our planetary HiStory, specifically Birth of Christ (BC) To nearly 2009 years post his physical exit (AD), there's only one other Worldly figure that has been bestowed the powers to reach EVERY corner of the globe. And that Heavenly Gift was the Incomparable Michael Jackson.

2+5, The days of Christ and Michael.

Although many other Great Worldly figures, ranging from Martin to Mother Teresa, have graced this Earth with soul driven purposes that have benefited humanity, there have ONLY been two who have been subjected to literal crucifixions; before, during and after their deaths. And even in the face of these crucifixions, they both maintained hearts filled with love, sensitivity and care for all man/woman-kind. They carried rare emotional connections to and concerns for every single poor and sick person on the planet; Especially the children. They were in-tune with the necessary nurturance that this magnificent creation we inhabit requires for survival. They both never stopped giving and wanting to give more! They even carried compassion and hope for those who were consumed with evil and sought to do them both harm. An EXTREME rarity!

Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement.

Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

Though the hands of tIME still move incrementally, tick-tock, tick-tock, it is quickly running thin on the 2 decade long, elaborate planning that culminated in this execution. I can now understand that "vision" of 6/25/06 relapse", with CLARITY. This is no conspiracy theory! However, believe as you may. But believing and knowing--- are two different things.


Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins.
Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins.
Two different Kings, with different Reigns.
And The End result shall be the same.

JUSTICE........For it is already written!

And shall be illUMINATED! (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!

“With all the ingredients—is it Simmering---can you smell it—how long before the “pie” is done.” – As many have realized, IT would have been greatness to an infinite degree.

Mr. Jackson--- you know I still have your back--- until my end.
Connected

KEEP Watchin'.......
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Be careful, this website showing all of this info about Archangel Michael is also trying to sell you some books and who knows what else. This just seems very tailored to answering those questions that everyone has. It just fits too well. I just hope this is not yet another person that is looking to see how they can make  money off of MJ's name. It's good to read everything we can, but tread lightly. I guess for me, the fact that they are trying to sell you their product makes it less believalbe as a clue or true source of a message from MJ.  Just be careful.   :?
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We really need to learn more about the archangel Michael. I'm sure it wil gives us the answer to ll of this..
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Oh, I saw all the stuff for sale... I'm not buying!
I just read that page and really liked it!
I printed it out ... it is a great message!

actually, I got this page when I googled Carolyn Evers.
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Hmm the Kathedral of archangel Michael is in Russia.
(wasn't there a sighting of MJ ) ?
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More about archangel Michael:
http://www.angel-guide.com/archangel-mi ... cture.html

MJ's childres were also spotted at a Jewish church with Jermaine and his son.
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I think this is the painting from the Opus  :)
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WOW look at his and listen what they say about it
[youtube:1pnld96n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgRtGuU-6KM[/youtube:1pnld96n]

[youtube:1pnld96n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kkEBnHTP8[/youtube:1pnld96n]

[youtube:1pnld96n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1zlmJK7xqk[/youtube:1pnld96n]

[youtube:1pnld96n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pccxoibS94[/youtube:1pnld96n]

There are 11 parts

Michael could come back on july 11 or 12
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Quote from: "cutierose"


I think this is the painting from the Opus  :)

Hee where did you find this picture  :D
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Be careful, this website showing all of this info about Archangel Michael is also trying to sell you some books and who knows what else. This just seems very tailored to answering those questions that everyone has. It just fits too well. I just hope this is not yet another person that is looking to see how they can make  money off of MJ's name. It's good to read everything we can, but tread lightly. I guess for me, the fact that they are trying to sell you their product makes it less believalbe as a clue or true source of a message from MJ.  Just be careful.   :?
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Yes, please be careful.
Here's some info about the artist.      

JACKSON'S SUPERHUMAN ART COLLECTION UNCOVEREDMICHAEL JACKSON's private art collection starring the late pop legend as superheroes and historical figures has been revealed in a new book.
Artist David Nordahl was commissioned by the Thriller hitmaker to paint hundreds of works depicting Jackson in an idealised light, according to a new book including the works, Michael Jackson Opus: The Ultimate Celebration of an Icon.
Nordahl made Jackson a Peter Pan-like figure in one painting, called The Storyteller, and even added his pop star sister Janet to the lower-left foreground in the shape of a fairy.
A 1999 oil-on-canvas image depicts Jackson in the same pose as Michelangelo's statue of David, shirtless and surrounded by male cherubs. The singer is also shown as King Arthur, a superhero, and an angel in other works.
Nordahl explains, "He thought it was great with a little 'tongue-in-cheek' flavour."
Nordahl reportedly earned $150,000 (£93,650) for his largest canvases.
07 December 2009 16:06
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I think this is the painting from the Opus  :)

Hee where did you find this picture  :D

I remembered that I saw it on a blog a couple of days ago so I did a google news search and found it again  :P
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ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.


I agree I don't get the excitement? :?   Is the site what everyones excited about or the fact that the theory is he is the Archangel Michael 9and that is what the hoax is about).

Can someone break it down for me LOL I want to be excited TOO :lol:

I think it's because people think something bad is going to happen in 2012 but actually it's not that is what ''they'' are lying to us something big is going to happy L.O.V.E is going to return to this earth, and Archangel Michael kills the devil, the evil and the hate.

That is what I think.
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Was Michael Jackson the Archangel?  
Written by Dr. Firpo W. Carr, (Columnist), on 11-19-2009 00:00
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Was Michael Jackson the Archangel?

Musing Michael the Messenger


To millions of fans spanning the globe Michael Joseph Jackson was angelic. The biblical word "angel" simply means "messenger of God." And if ever God sent a messenger in recent times, loyal fans believe Michael Jackson to be that man. Some feel that among other caring, angelic persons in our lifetime (like Mother Theresa, or lesser known persons from other cultures), Michael stands out as an archangel. This is partly attributable to the sheer magnitude of his influence. Indeed, fans insist he was the principle one or chief (hence "arch-") among those considered to be angelic. In fact, it has been stated that a man's greatness can be measured by that which he has left others to contemplate. By this dictum, Michael Jackson was indeed a great man; an incredibly wonderful human being who reflected the godly qualities of love and generosity on a grand scale. In fact, his very name, "Michael," means, "Who is like God?" But, there is another historical "Michael" who is far more famous than Michael Jackson. Some have even confused the two. Who might this other Michael be?

Who is the other Michael?: The other Michael is a real angel-a spirit creature-mentioned several times in the Bible. He is much more fabulously known by another name, and in another form, which is discussed in detail below. Meanwhile, the first one to mention Michael is Prophet Daniel. He describes "prince" Michael as a powerful spirit creature who stands in behalf of others during "a time of distress," or, "the time of the end." (Daniel 10:13; 11:40; 12:1) Though not mentioning this same Michael specifically by name, Joshua encountered "a man" who twice described himself as the "prince of the army of Jehovah" as the Israelites were about to enter the Promised Land. (Joshua 5:13-15) Jehovah had earlier told Moses: "My angel will go ahead of you" (Exodus 23:23; 32:34; 33:2) as the Children of Israel trekked into "a land flowing with milk and honey." (Exodus 3:8) So, these three "Old Testament" writers-Daniel, Joshua, and Moses-all knew of the powerful prince angel called Michael. Three "New Testament" writers zero in on other clues as to the other identity of the biblical Michael.

Jude reveals that, the same powerful angelic prince Michael that God told Moses about had a confrontation with the Devil over Moses' dead body. "But when Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil," writes Jude, "and was disputing about Moses' body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: 'May Jehovah rebuke you.'" (Jude 9) So, Jude calls Michael the "archangel." But, he is not the first to do so. Years earlier the apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same in this singular text. And just as Jesus encountered the Devil on earth, Michael confronted Satan in heaven. "And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon....So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth." (Revelation 12:7-9) Intriguingly, Michael appears to be Jesus Christ in his pre-human existence. But, is that what Jesus himself said?

A Pre-human Jesus?: "Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." (John 17:5) That's what Jesus had to say about his pre-human existence. On an earlier occasion, identifying himself as the "Son of man," he declared: "No man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man." (John 3:13; compare John 1:51; 6:38, 46, 62; 7:28, 29; 8:23, 26, 28, 38, 42, 58; 14:2) As a pre-human spirit being the man who became Jesus said the following:

"Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth....I was brought forth as with labor pains,...When he prepared the heavens I was there;...I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day,...and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men." (Proverbs 8:22-31) For good reason, many believe these texts allude to Jesus Christ in his pre-human existence. The publication God's "Eternal Purpose" Now Triumphing For Man's Good (1974) states: "Jewish leaders are concerned about the application that may be made of the above Bible verses. In the Soncino Press edition of Proverbs, of 1945, we read in the footnote on this section: 'For the Jewish reader this interpretation is of much importance in view of the Christological use made of this section by the early Church Fathers.'"

Which early Church Fathers? A footnote in the Eternal Purpose book answers: "See Tertullian's 'Against Praxeas.' Therein, in Chapter 7, he says: 'The Son likewise acknowledges the Father, speaking in his own person, under the name of Wisdom: "The LORD formed me as the beginning of his ways."' See also comments on Proverbs 8:22 by Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Athenagoras, Theophilus of Antioch, Clement of Alexandria, Cyprian (The Treatises of), Origen's 'De Principiis,' Dionysius, and Lactantius." All these believed that Proverbs 8:22-31 is code for Jesus Christ, who, being "from time indefinite" (Proverbs 8:23), was eventually born in Bethlehem Ephrathah. Amazingly, his birthplace was prophesied by Prophet Micah, who wrote: "O Bethlehem Ephrathah,... from you there will come out to me the one who is to become ruler in Israel, whose origin is from early times, from the days of time indefinite." (Micah 5:2) Though it was true of Jesus, did others have a pre-human existence?

"Men" With Pre-human Existences?: A mysterious "man" who met with Manoah and his wife (who later became the parents of Samson) was in reality an angel who made two trips-as a "man"-to earth. (Judges 13:1-25) And just as controversy swirls around Michael's parenthood, such was the case in connection with angels who left heaven to father hybrid earth children. Of course, there is no relationship between Michael Jackson and these demon angels! (Genesis 6:1-4) These semen-

producing "sons of God" stayed young and took on new generations of beautiful women as wives. Interestingly, they're never called "men" in Scripture, although they're initially referred to in the masculine gender, and obviously took on the form of men. Not being "born of woman" or "through the woman," apparently they weren't fully human. (Job 14:1; 1 Cor. 11:12) This can be ascertained from the fact that they could shed their "human" bodies, and that their sons were hybrids.

Even so, faithful angels, as noted in the case of the "man" who visited Manoah above, are described as "men," complete with human feelings and needs. (Genesis 18:2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 16; Genesis 19:1, 2-4, 5, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16) Consistently, even the materialized demon angels of Noah's day are "the spirits in prison" who disobeyed God's command not to cohabit with beautiful women. (1 Peter 3:19, 20) They're the same "angels that sinned." (2 Peter 2:4) Yes, they're the very ones "that did not keep their original position, but forsook their own dwelling place." (Jude 6) Indeed, there were "men" who had pre-human existences.  

Finally, the disciple James wrote, "Every good gift and every perfect present is from above." (James 1:17) In giving too many gifts to count, Michael Jackson was most assuredly a "messenger" or "angel" of God. Still, aside from sharing the same name, there is little else that Michael Jackson has in common with Michael the Archangel. The same can be said of a generous, noble minded Latino named Jesus Hernandez and the Lord Jesus Christ. Same name. Different persons. All said, the question can be posed: "Who is like Michael Jackson?" The answer? No one on this earth. And likely no one in this lifetime. Enough said. Amen.
 
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oh my god my head is spinning from reading all of this all this excitment i cant take much more i really hope this is it :)
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are you guys saying that archangel Michael = Michael Jackson?
I mean, that he wants to act LIKE archangel Michael, so we can solve the clues or?? Sorry I'm not following...
 I'm from Belgium so I don't understand every word :')
Anyway, I've done some research on dutch sites and apparently archangel Michael also stands for :

1) Being free ( Makes sense..)
2) Succes


And according to some sites he's the closest angel to god
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Hello people okay, well that is we do research in these things archangel Michael....
if look there now tips .... this is, perhaps, the solution
Help me please now everything has not read....
I will read up it then ....... :oops:
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Mmmm too much coincidence... that painting with Michael riding the horse was yesterday on our local news, they said Michael ordered that painting but he never saw it because he died before it was finished...  :?  and it was purchased by somebody ... maybe it is Michael sending us a message lol !!

I have always wondered why so many people, fans, around the world think the same way ... that Michael is kind of angelic like... he is like an angel to me because he is a good man and that is so hard to find these days... you just have to look at his eyes and there it is.
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SILVANA
Yes he is like an angel....
He has this magic, he shines a little bit unnatural from .... he is real like an angel....
Chances everything again,I cannot believe in so many chances :roll:
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
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Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out
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Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out


LOL...my brain too.

I hope someone can PLEASE explain more clearly...
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Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out


LOL...my brain too.

I hope someone can PLEASE explain more clearly...

YES WHAT YOU GUYS SAID!!!!!!!Help needed for the Blond girl please
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Thank you Emeraldcity this explains it and now I get it!! Great post!!
yes, thanks Emeraldcity!! :D  great  post indeed!!
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


LMAO!!!! :lol:  :lol:
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


LMAO!!!! :lol:  :lol:
:lol:  :lol: IM NOT A STALKER :lol:
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!
:? i hope you are not waiting for me to answer this :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: my brain has moved out


LOL...my brain too.

I hope someone can PLEASE explain more clearly...

And the answer is...
Quote from: "TIIDA11"
apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same

The song "This Is It" lyrics: I Am The Light Of The World, this is real.

Who is the light of the world?
I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)
“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world” (John 9:5)

Names of the Messiah: Light of The World
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus_in_the_New_Testament#Light_of_the_World

From the "This Is It" movie, part of the 'Thriller' segment
The Resurrection of the Dead


The resurrection of dead humans is a central doctrine of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It may refer either to the resurrection of particular individuals, or a general resurrection of humanity.

The idea of resurrection is featured prominently in both Jewish and Christian scripture. There are many passages in the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament which at least later have been considered as referring to the resurrection. Since the first century CE, most of the world associates the concept of resurrection with the resurrection of Jesus. The resurrection of Jesus is elaborated upon throughout the books of the New Testament, although the descriptions do not agree entirely with each other.
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

Rev 20:11-15
Next I saw a large white throne and the one who was sitting on it. The earth and the sky fled from his presence and there was no place for them. I saw the dead, the great and the lowly, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. Then another scroll was opened, the book of life. The dead were judged according to their deeds, by what was written in the scrolls. The sea gave up its dead; then Death and Hades gave up their dead. All the dead were judged according to their deeds. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the pool of fire. (This pool of fire is the second death. ) Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the pool of fire.

Not the End but a New Beginning
Rev 21:1-8
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with the human race. He will dwell with them and they will be his people and God himself will always be with them (as their God). He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death or mourning, wailing or pain, (for) the old order has passed away." The one who sat on the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Then he said, "Write these words down, for they are trustworthy and true." He said to me, "They are accomplished. I (am) the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
http://http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090600.htm
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!

Ok, here is what I am getting from all of this.  Although Michael was angelic, I don't believe he is the ACTUAL Archangel Michael.  I think this is maybe a clue that his return will be spiritual in nature as well as physical.  

Michael was very devout and well-read.   I would not put it past Michael to be planning his comeback in this fashion.  If you read through a lot of the Archangel Michael information, it does coincide with some of the clues we have been finding, especially when it comes to the movie, This Is It.  I am sure Michael has done A LOT of research on religion and his namesake, Archangel Michael.

Anyway, that is my take on the whole situation.
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Sooo........are you saying that Michael is a Messiah?? Im still confused. Someone needs to explain this cus I really wanna know.
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And the answer is...
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apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same

The song "This Is It" lyrics: I Am The Light Of The World, this is real.

Who is the light of the world?
I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)
“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world” (John 9:5)

Names of the Messiah: Light of The World
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus_in_the_New_Testament#Light_of_the_World


just...woooww  :shock:  :shock:   :shock:
that makes sense .. a little  ;)
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Ok, good find. It is interesting.
But what do you make of it? Do you think Michael made this website? I mean...everyone could have done it..?!
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Sooo........are you saying that Michael is a Messiah?? Im still confused. Someone needs to explain this cus I really wanna know.

I am not saying anything, I just feel there are enough clues pointing toward something. There are paintings, the song, the movie, the archangel material (colors, spider etc), the "this is also it" redirects to bible quotes, Michael's "Crucifiction" in the press (a term used a lot to describe his treatment), and other messages and clues. No one can tell you what to believe you have to put the pieces together and decide for yourself. Question is, what does it all mean to you?
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!

Ok, here is what I am getting from all of this.  Although Michael was angelic, I don't believe he is the ACTUAL Archangel Michael.  I think this is maybe a clue that his return will be spiritual in nature as well as physical.  

Michael was very devout and well-read.   I would not put it past Michael to be planning his comeback in this fashion.  If you read through a lot of the Archangel Michael information, it does coincide with some of the clues we have been finding, especially when it comes to the movie, This Is It.  I am sure Michael has done A LOT of research on religion and his namesake, Archangel Michael.

Anyway, that is my take on the whole situation.
This is what I think, too... !!!!
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ummmm.............


k..............


:backsoutofthreadslowly:


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@ Serenitys_Dream
 
Sooo........are you saying that Michael is a Messiah?? Im still confused. Someone needs to explain this cus I really wanna know.

I am not saying anything, I just feel there are enough clues pointing toward something. There are paintings, the song, the movie, the archangel material (colors, spider etc), the "this is also it" redirects to bible quotes, Michael's "Crucifiction" in the press (a term used a lot to describe his treatment), and other messages and clues. No one can tell you what to believe you have to put the pieces together and decide for yourself. Question is, what does it all mean to you?


I think I understand now....and all I can say is WOW. Im speechless.......Im excited to find out whats going to happen!!
But WHEN will it happen? Do you know?
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Make that 4 :shock: Boy,this is to much for me after along day at work...
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Make that 4 :shock: Boy,this is to much for me after along day at work...


Many people have said that when he comes back its going to be spectacular....and if this is what is going to happen, then get ready!!!
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:?  :?  :? MAYDAY MAYDAY,3 PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAINS IN DISTRESS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Make that 4 :shock: Boy,this is to much for me after along day at work...
:? im gonna come back when im more stable :lol:
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I'm afraid I don't understand this thread at all.  

I know that Michael is special in many ways, but I don't think he's the archangel Michael - sorry!  I think this is just adding more confusion to an already confusing situation.

I can understand that Michael is a sort of prophet - he does know things that most people can't understand.  This could come from a special connection with God.

Also, isn't an angel somebody who has left this earth - has passed on, so to speak?  I'm not much up on divinity, so I don't know.  I realise that throughout history, there have been people who seem to have been touched by the hand of God - Micael is probably one of them.  I remember a friend, who is a healer, telling me that people who are special in this way can often appear to be a bit odd in their behaviour. Michael has certainly been chastised in the press.

It's a very interesing theory, but I think we'll just have to hold fire and see what happens. I personally believe that God will not allow the Earth to be destroyed - he could be using Michael as a channel for a very important message that he wants to give to humanity...
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I'm afraid I don't understand this thread at all.  

I know that Michael is special in many ways, but I don't think he's the archangel Michael - sorry!  I think this is just adding more confusion to an already confusing situation.

I can understand that Michael is a sort of prophet - he does know things that most people can't understand.  This could come from a special connection with God.

Also, isn't an angel somebody who has left this earth - has passed on, so to speak?  I'm not much up on divinity, so I don't know.  I realise that throughout history, there have been people who seem to have been touched by the hand of God - Micael is probably one of them.  I remember a friend, who is a healer, telling me that people who are special in this way can often appear to be a bit odd in their behaviour. Michael has certainly been chastised in the press.

It's a very interesing theory, but I think we'll just have to hold fire and see what happens. I personally believe that God will not allow the Earth to be destroyed - he could be using Michael as a channel for a very important message that he wants to give to humanity...
:lol:  :lol: another one for the club at this rate this is gonna need its own website :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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ok, Im gonna go with something that Im not totally familiar with. Im ashamed I DONT know but I know a little.

God and Moses. God wiped out the planet with The Flood and used Moses to "replenish" all humans and animals afterwards. I was told by a very religious friend of mine a few yrs ago that according to the Bible, God is intending to do this again to the planet, but this time it will be with fire. And before He does this he is going to take certain people with Him....even ones that are still alive.

Im so sorry if this a lame attempt but this is all I know...is this having to do with 2012 and Michael maybe?

Sorry!! **bows head in shame**
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:? FOUND THE CLUE  THIS MAKES EVERYTHING CLEAR :?  :? WHY ARE WE SO CONFUSED :lol:  :lol:IM FEELING LIKE A TWIT
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OMG I think i found it.......this is REAL

If you look at the blog it says that their communications come from Mikael. Wasn't it said in the media that Michael changed his name to Mikael?????   This could very well be for real!!!

You are RIGHT !!! They said he changed his name because he became muslim.
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I'm afraid I don't understand this thread at all.  

I know that Michael is special in many ways, but I don't think he's the archangel Michael - sorry!  I think this is just adding more confusion to an already confusing situation.

I can understand that Michael is a sort of prophet - he does know things that most people can't understand.  This could come from a special connection with God.

Also, isn't an angel somebody who has left this earth - has passed on, so to speak?  I'm not much up on divinity, so I don't know.  I realise that throughout history, there have been people who seem to have been touched by the hand of God - Micael is probably one of them.  I remember a friend, who is a healer, telling me that people who are special in this way can often appear to be a bit odd in their behaviour. Michael has certainly been chastised in the press.

It's a very interesing theory, but I think we'll just have to hold fire and see what happens. I personally believe that God will not allow the Earth to be destroyed - he could be using Michael as a channel for a very important message that he wants to give to humanity...

Angels are not those who have passed on, They are creation all their own.
What is an Angel?
The word angel is thought to be derived from the Greek word "Angelos" which means "messenger". In Christian, Muslim, Jewish and other theologies an angel can be one who acts as a messenger, attendant or agent of God.
Throughout the bible it is generally seen that the will of God is usually imparted or carried out by angels.
They enjoy an intimate relationship to God as His special adopted children, contemplating, loving, and praising Him in heaven. Some of them are frequently sent as messengers to men from on high.
Angels are the essence of love and joy and stem from the Heart of God/Goddess.
In Christian religion and theology an angel can also be a member of the lowest order of the nine-fold celestial hierarchy this is a ranking which comes directly below archangels. A fallen angel is often classed as a devil, like Satan himself; whereas a guardian angel is classed as a human guide or protector.
Angels can take on a variety of different forms. In  Ezekiel 1:16-21, Isaiah 6:1-3, and throughout the book of Revelation they are described as taking on not only the appearance of men but many fantastical forms. A notable example was the angel who took on the appearance of a burning bush.
Angels appear to us with many forms and shapes. Many times the qualities of an Angel are so delicate that they choose female forms or even masculine bodies with female face characteristics. An Angel will appear to us with the form that is best for us.
http://http://www.steliart.com/angelology_what%27s_an_angel.html
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Some Additional Background on Angels

The Great Archangels represent the seven primary feelings, or Aspects and Attributes of The Creator that must be developed within the nature of Humankind in order to attain Masterhood. They bring forth the fuel (love energy) of God."

Michael became a master at the age of 38.  There is a book written about him that explains the qualifications and why he was chosen.  The picture of him at the Memorial Service is from the cover of that book.

really??? The Liberian girl picture??? Wow this is getting more and more interesting  :shock:  :o
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OK, people like now? Indeed, is angel Michael anyway for us .... like is this to be interpreted now at the moment? Michael is an angel (true or Michael sends / interpreted these signs? Or how?? Help, I am... I believe, still moves whether with this Bille Jean Frau broke in the lunatic asylum for me?:?
God, I throws to me anyhow before MJS feet .... all same like  :?
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ok I'm really confused :roll: Where did this info come from? When was it written and how does it relate to This is it?? How is it "THE"clue that makes everything clear?  I'm sorry but I just don't understand how all of this makes everything clear! I must be missing something can someone please help me so I undertand what your point is please? Thanks, I would really appreciate it.

It's in the passage of that book. It says. THIS IS IT
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Some Additional Background on Angels

The Great Archangels represent the seven primary feelings, or Aspects and Attributes of The Creator that must be developed within the nature of Humankind in order to attain Masterhood. They bring forth the fuel (love energy) of God."

Michael became a master at the age of 38.  There is a book written about him that explains the qualifications and why he was chosen.  The picture of him at the Memorial Service is from the cover of that book.

really??? The Liberian girl picture??? Wow this is getting more and more interesting  :shock:  :o


What? Are you kidding me?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

At this point I have lost the ability to speak. When people talk to me, I just mumble and stare straight ahead!!. LOL!!
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Quote from: "DaduxMJ"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"

And the answer is...
Quote from: "TIIDA11"
apostle Paul proclaimed: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The "Lord," 'archangel,' and "Christ" are all one and the same

The song "This Is It" lyrics: I Am The Light Of The World, this is real.

Who is the light of the world?
I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)
“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world” (John 9:5)

Names of the Messiah: Light of The World
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus_in_the_New_Testament#Light_of_the_World


just...woooww  :shock:  :shock:   :shock:
that makes sense .. a little  ;)

YES it does !!!
Archangel Michael reaches every believe..Jewish, Muslim, Chisten.... This is the way to REACH everyone !!!
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Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Some Additional Background on Angels

The Great Archangels represent the seven primary feelings, or Aspects and Attributes of The Creator that must be developed within the nature of Humankind in order to attain Masterhood. They bring forth the fuel (love energy) of God."

Michael became a master at the age of 38.  There is a book written about him that explains the qualifications and why he was chosen.  The picture of him at the Memorial Service is from the cover of that book.

really??? The Liberian girl picture??? Wow this is getting more and more interesting  :shock:  :o


What? Are you kidding me?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  sorry your post makes me laugh. We are all getting more crayze and exited about it. Because to me THIS IS the proof that everything is planned....bij our Michael  ;)  :D  This Must Be It...It fits everything....

At this point I have lost the ability to speak. When people talk to me, I just mumble and stare straight ahead!!. LOL!!
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God this is unbelievable, you are brilliant!  :o
If that is really possibly I do not know what I should say now...
I love to you all This is it from myself :D  ;)
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Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
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Some Additional Background on Angels

The Great Archangels represent the seven primary feelings, or Aspects and Attributes of The Creator that must be developed within the nature of Humankind in order to attain Masterhood. They bring forth the fuel (love energy) of God."

Michael became a master at the age of 38.  There is a book written about him that explains the qualifications and why he was chosen.  The picture of him at the Memorial Service is from the cover of that book.

really??? The Liberian girl picture??? Wow this is getting more and more interesting  :shock:  :o


What? Are you kidding me?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

At this point I have lost the ability to speak. When people talk to me, I just mumble and stare straight ahead!!. LOL!!

You're not alone :shock: ...I put the neerest asylum's number on my speed dial
 :shock:  :lol:  :lol:
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Before the last version of the MJHD forum crashed I had this ready to post.  It's on the subject of ARCHANGELS in relation to the hoax and I think it's fairly self-explanatory so I'll just paste it in below.  As they say, better late than never! ...[size=150]

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GREAT post !!!! thanks
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OMG!!!  Read this!  :o
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/
:lol:  its already in the Openings Post  :lol:  that pages are the reason for starting  this topic  ;)
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Before the last version of the MJHD forum crashed I had this ready to post.  It's on the subject of ARCHANGELS in relation to the hoax and I think it's fairly self-explanatory so I'll just paste it in below.  As they say, better late than never! ...

Physically, the Archangel Michael has been described as young, strong and handsome; tall and militant with firm, chiseled facial features and eyes that look like pools of fire.  His skin has been described as the color of copper which radiates and glows from being in the Presence of God.  He has been depicted standing admist a girdle of stars, clothed in a SCARLET tunic and armour of chain mail hewn in GOLD.  Michael is sometimes seen wearing a breast plate with the regal majesty of a mighty LION or a flaming dragon emblazoned across it in burnished gold.  The Lion represents the symbol of LEO, which indicates almighty power, living energy, courage and passion for life.  The dragon represents the symbol of our fear, which is so easily slain if confronted with hope and courage.[/i]

Through many succeeding cycles of time, as Ray after Ray provided The Pathway for the descent of new Spirits, Archangel Michael has remained as the Guardian Overlord of the Angelic Host, the Elemental Kingdom and humanity. He shall not fold his Cosmic Wings about him to return home until the final Angelic Being is freed, the last man is redeemed and the last Elemental returned to its perfect state. This is the love of Archangel Michael, who like many others, is a Prisoner of Love to the life he serves.  He sees this as his MISSION ... a Mission of Love ... all for L.O.V.E.

Once again relating this back to the Memorial/Funeral:  the Jackson brothers wore yellow/gold ties and the casket flowers were red. There was a picture of Michael in a red shirt on the set of “Liberian Girl”.  These colors were to signify those attributed to the Archangel Michael.  It is interesting to note that at the funeral these colors were reversed so there were red ties worn and the flowers this time were yellow on a gold casket.  Similarly, a picture displayed at the funeral was of Michael in a yellow shirt.  This was to signify the .  Moving forward to the movie "This Is It" … we see luminous green light displayed in several scenes.  Green is the color of healing and is associated with the Archangel Raphael, whose name in Hebrew means “God cures” and whose elemental colour is Emerald Green.  The other Archangels are also healers who come as master surgeons to mend our souls and four lower bodies - etheric, mental, emotional and physical.  The most familiar Archangels serve on the SEVEN rays of spiritual light that correspond to the light focused within the SEVEN major chakras in man.

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If you've got this far some of you are possibly scratching your head and wondering "so what is the significance of the Archangels to the hoax?"  And my answer is simply this:  "to lead us to a greater understanding of our true purpose here on earth.  To help us understand more fully Michael Jackson's words when he said "it's all for love - L.O.V.E."  To guide us through the challenging times ahead as we prepare to enter this next very significant cycle in human history (Solar Cycle 24) as predicted by the ancient Mayans who were entrusted with the secrets of the Universe and a blueprint for the divine destiny of Planet Earth.

I believe Michael Jackson had a very important reason for hoaxing his death ... I'd even go so far as saying he had a SACRED reason.  However don’t forget that in the movie he says “This is an adventure – a great adventure.  We want to take them to places they’ve never been before, show them talent like they’ve never seen before.  We have to bring love back into the world.”  This was/is a positive message.  Michael also said “There’s nothing to be nervous about.”  He is inviting us to go on a journey with him and he will be there beside us, encouraging us, and lifting us up just as the Archangel Michael will defend all those who put their trust in him.

For further reading go to these links:

http://www.greatdreams.com/archangels.htm
http://www.steliart.com/angelology_arch ... cheia.html

I do not want to repeat myself, but for 2 years I went into a study about all the RAYS and the corresponding Archangels: I am just shivering now... IT HAD ITS REASON
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Thank you all so much for helping me with this research. Your postings are FENOMINAL..We will com to things. The puzzel is starting to complete.

Dit you all looked at the youtubemovies about archangel michael? (Posted before) it contains 11 series en there are people talking about that in  radioprogramme. I cannot hear all they are saying, they talk too quickly. And Englisch is not my foreign language.

But i really would like to know what they are saying... i heard he probably come back (for once) at july 11 or 12 in 2010
Then he wil go out of the public (they say)
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ok, Im gonna go with something that Im not totally familiar with. Im ashamed I DONT know but I know a little.

God and Moses. God wiped out the planet with The Flood and used Moses to "replenish" all humans and animals afterwards. I was told by a very religious friend of mine a few yrs ago that according to the Bible, God is intending to do this again to the planet, but this time it will be with fire. And before He does this he is going to take certain people with Him....even ones that are still alive.

Im so sorry if this a lame attempt but this is all I know...is this having to do with 2012 and Michael maybe?

Sorry!! **bows head in shame**

Wasnn`t that Noah?? I am sure you meant him, but there are so many important people in the Old Testament, that we get muddled up with the names, but we did understand you very well  :)
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ENGELINHIER:   Speechless...Speechless...that's how you make me feel..

REALLY! THANK YOU! :o
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Have to post this.. wow this feeling... this man is an angel

[youtube:3d14m10o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQichHlV_-4[/youtube:3d14m10o]
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Listen what he has to say and how he's got inspired, out of his own mouth:

[youtube:2lb1f4zz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u126GEZCP0g[/youtube:2lb1f4zz]
[youtube:2lb1f4zz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0wrkOT-4U[/youtube:2lb1f4zz]

He really is a genious
[youtube:2lb1f4zz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5he8XQCBw[/youtube:2lb1f4zz]
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Quote from: "Oetoort"
Listen what he has to say and how he's got inspired, out of his own mouth:

[youtube:8bpg7l77]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u126GEZCP0g[/youtube:8bpg7l77]


I LOVE IT!
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ok, Im gonna go with something that Im not totally familiar with. Im ashamed I DONT know but I know a little.

God and Moses. God wiped out the planet with The Flood and used Moses to "replenish" all humans and animals afterwards. I was told by a very religious friend of mine a few yrs ago that according to the Bible, God is intending to do this again to the planet, but this time it will be with fire. And before He does this he is going to take certain people with Him....even ones that are still alive.

Im so sorry if this a lame attempt but this is all I know...is this having to do with 2012 and Michael maybe?

Sorry!! **bows head in shame**

Wasnn`t that Noah? I am sure you meant him, but there are so many important people in the Old Testament, that we get muddled up with the names, but we did understand you very well  :)

YES NOAH!!! OMG why in the heck did I say Moses? See? I told you I was losing it!!

Wow....***slaps self**
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About the politic LIES (beLIEve)

[youtube:lxa9olbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OBUgE6EDFo[/youtube:lxa9olbn]
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WOW !!! Just got an email back from Carolyn Evers !!!!!! Look what she has to say. I replied and i hop i'll get more answers
Hi Carolyn,

Wow it's soo interesting !!! It has such so much similarities with Michael jackson. I think i will buy your book to learn more about it.
I'm positive he isn't passed away.. he needed to spread the word and made people listen. Thanks.
Blessings to, with love, Yvonne

----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Evers
To: van-oetoort
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: RE:


My books were written from about 2002 to the present?

Blessings

Carolyn

From: Remy en Yvonne Tax [mailto:contact@oetoort-rottweilers.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:12 PM
To: www.oetoort-rottweilers.nl
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The book is from 2002 !!!!

Tell me WHY did Kenny Ortega wanted 2002 followers (on twitter) before the concerts take place....just a thought.. :?
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Januari 2010 there will be a movie released called LEGION

Check this out... no coincidence either.. looks to me like they are going to prepare us for BAMS-day (when Michael can make his final curtain call)
Google images of LEGION and tell me what you see  :shock:
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/category ... 009-movie/
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If I am not mistaken didn't that user BACK post something about archangel michael or something like that.

WHERE IS PAMMY WHEN YOU NEED HER!
Pammy I'm callin you out!  :lol:


YES sir.  I´m available!  :mrgreen:

here is what BACK posted about Archangel Michael!

I KNEW i was right! YES!!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/video-s-hoa ... -t3937.htm

Can somebody please help me with this page here? I´m trying to find the date when this was posted:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Archangel-Micha ... son-Island

Woot Pammy! Thanks  :mrgreen:
That's awesome! I always thought that user was Michael,
now I think it a little bit more.

"Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement."
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isn't the archangel Michael supposed to be the one to slay Lucifer during Armageddon? Michael's sword is supposed to be what kills him right? I am not overly religious (well not religious at all), but for some reason I remember this.

If that is true, maybe this has something to do with the Illuminati and 2012.

I will say this once here, and probably never again because it's really a bit far fetched but I kinda think it could happen.  :geek:

If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.

Thereeee we go. There's one of my theories  :lol:

I love you :mrgreen:

 :oops:  :mrgreen: Love you more  ;)
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Some Additional Background on Angels

The Great Archangels represent the seven primary feelings, or Aspects and Attributes of The Creator that must be developed within the nature of Humankind in order to attain Masterhood. They bring forth the fuel (love energy) of God."

Michael became a master at the age of 38.  There is a book written about him that explains the qualifications and why he was chosen.  The picture of him at the Memorial Service is from the cover of that book.

really??? The Liberian girl picture??? Wow this is getting more and more interesting  :shock:  :o


What? Are you kidding me?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

At this point I have lost the ability to speak. When people talk to me, I just mumble and stare straight ahead!!. LOL!!

 :shock:  :o
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http://cognitivedissonance-kolbringobli ... -51st.html

it is often mentioned the comparison archangel Michael
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But This Is It proves IT

Too much simularities... If we know more about archangel Michael..we will learn what will come.
Michael jackson is NOT dead....
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Wish there was a "Cliffs Notes" version of this thread. :D
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The term "This is it" is used a fair bit though. It's not always related to MJ :)
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[quote = "Oetoort"] Aber das ist es beweist, IT --

Zu viel simularities ... Wenn wir wissen mehr über die Erzengel Michael .. wir werden lernen, war kommen wird.
Michael Jackson ist nicht tot ....[/ quote]

[color = # FF0000] You appear to yourself to be sure very much, thanks to you .... maybe it is real this [/ color]
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Sorry i don't speak German, don't understand it either  :o
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Spread this thread.. everyone MUST read !!!

THIS IS IT (and yes i can feel it and see it)
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maybe not interesting, but for me it is, because there are lots of clues in the MOVIE (directed bij MR Michael Jackson) Michael chewing GUM
The history of chewing gum
A chewing gum history, the oldest known piece of candy in the world. Learn it in this incredible artical.

http://www.essortment.com/all/chewinggumhis_rdjz.htm
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there is so much more to come..IT reaches a higher level.
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WOW...  :shock:  That's weird. I tell you. things just keep getting weirder and weirder.
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Quote from: "Oetoort"
maybe not interesting, but for me it is, because there are lots of clues in the MOVIE (directed bij MR Michael Jackson) Michael chewing GUM
The history of chewing gum
A chewing gum history, the oldest known piece of candy in the world. Learn it in this incredible artical.

http://www.essortment.com/all/chewinggumhis_rdjz.htm
WOW look at this..all of the fans are chewing gum. And watch all the blue stuff and the red curtains.
[youtube:2l1gza2l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT0qFeftlgM[/youtube:2l1gza2l]

Michael you are  a brilliant director !!!!!
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He also says THESE wil be my final show
He should say THIS wil be my final show

I assure you there is more to come
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Nice article from the Painter about Mj and in depth talk of the visions for the paintings he did... When you open the link click to see the Paintings there are 10 total..
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/200 ... ings_N.htm
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Quote from: "Oetoort"
He also says THESE wil be my final show
He should say THIS wil be my final show

I assure you there is more to come
i think you're right about that!  ;)
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Hmmm...I'm chewing a gum right now...haven't considered about the history of it, though....hmmm....this is an interesting ALL ODDS forum...this is really ODD...yeah, I'm enjoying this gum chewing...keeps my teeth busy..LOL! :) Gotta educate myself more about psychics and channelers. ;)
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I'm not blonde or anything but could someone please explain what importance chewing gum has in all of this???up untill now i've been able to keep up with this thread but now
i feel completely clueless  HELP ME :idea:  :?:  :!:
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Ok....either Im reaaalllllyy dumb or my brain simply cannot take in any more info...but could this be true? Michael and angel in human form?

Does this mean he IS coming back? And if so, what's going to happen when he does? Im kinda confused by this.....please explain in laymans terms!!!

Ok, here is what I am getting from all of this.  Although Michael was angelic, I don't believe he is the ACTUAL Archangel Michael.  I think this is maybe a clue that his return will be spiritual in nature as well as physical.  

Michael was very devout and well-read.   I would not put it past Michael to be planning his comeback in this fashion.  If you read through a lot of the Archangel Michael information, it does coincide with some of the clues we have been finding, especially when it comes to the movie, This Is It.  I am sure Michael has done A LOT of research on religion and his namesake, Archangel Michael.

Anyway, that is my take on the whole situation.

For many.many years I have believed that Michael was not of this planet.  I have always, literally believed, that he was an earth angel.  That he was sent here for a purpose and that God gave him all the talent he needed to earn all the money it would take to do the job that he was meant to do.  And he did it better than anyone could have done it.  There is something in Michael's eyes.  It's like his eyes talk.  His eyes hold secrets.  His eyes hold wisdom.  Michael has always been ahead of his time.  He has always been an inquisitor.  He has always been an avid learner.  His interest are varied and he has mastered all of them.  There is nothing you can put before him that he does not understand.  There is no religion that he has not practice and visited and gotten to know its doctrine.  Be honest, what adult male do you know who genuinely still has the heart of a child, pure and unspoiled?  What adult man do you know who would go on the record saying he allows children to sleep in his bed, he sometimes will sleep along side them and know without any semblance of doubt, that he did it for just the reason he stated, out of love for them.  To share your bed with someone is an act of love, pure and simple.  He went on tv holding a child's hand and you saw in his demeanor, in his eyes, in his joy, that this was normal for him.  It was nothing to be ashamed of.  It was done purely out of love. It's what God would have done.   Michael ALWAYS talks about his gifts coming from God.  He speaks of how God gives him the words to his songs, the ideas for everything he has ever done.  I believe it.  What other explanation could there be?  Michael has the ability to bring to life the most vivid, beautiful, creative, intricate, complex, expressions, be it in music, song, dance, video, vision for the world, Neverland, what ever, without any formal training or blueprints.  It just comes to him, he receives it,  and then he works his magic, and "poof" it happens.  It blows me away.  I do believe that he talks to God.  I believe that God sees, hears, knows and answers him.  I believe that he is an angel fallen to earth.  There is not another human being that I've ever known or ever heard of who remained so innocent and pure at heart, even when he was up against things that could have changed the course of his life forever.  He never changed, got ugly, showed as people like to say "the real MJ".  Why?  Because he had been the "real MJ" all along.  There was nothing phony or fake or pretentious about him.  Your eyes did not deceive you.  What you saw was who he was and is.  An angel.  Yes indeed.
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Quote from: "Freeze Frame"
Wish there was a "Cliffs Notes" version of this thread. :D


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  LMAOLMAOOOOO!!!!!! OMG, Im laughing so hard right now!!!  Or maybe Archangel Micheal for Dummies? LOL
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Something really strange was said by Michael...LOVE last night on LKL. He said he is currently in the Temple of Ascension.

WHAT does that mean? I really believe MJ posts on that blog, but even so,,, what does that mean???
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TO EVERYONE,

Some of you may have seen BCorns post in this thread, that has since been deleted by me. He has a habit of using the F word in the same sentence as Jesus Christ, which I find inexcusable and disgusting. I posted on another thread concerning his actions a few days ago and he did it again just now on this thread. If ANY of you see him using this word in the same sentence as God, Jesus Christ...PLEASE PM me with a link, as I cannot read everytihing on here.

Thank you.
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I posted a thread a few days ago about how Michael sees our world from a distance. Like the view of an archangel, I now think...  :)


 

Making history...

Postby Believe 777 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:29 pm

Hi everyone,

I have recently come to you since MJHD shutdown and I have to say I really like it here. :D :D :D

I would like to look at all this from a distance and say how profound this really is. Never before in history has an event like this ever taken place. I feel honoured to be a part of it. A large group of people who have two things in common which is of course is, our love for Michael and we all have questioning minds.This is quite a powerful combination. We are a select group of people who have felt something about Michaels 'death' that does not fit and have come together to make history.

Michael's message is so powerful and full of truth. He has knowledge that he needs to pass on to us and this way he has been able to stop a section of the world who look beyond what we are told and he has our undivided attention from our hearts. Pure brilliance!!!

He is not just telling us, he is showing us. This is unavoidably bringing emotion and vulnerabilities to the surface which can cause confusion, fear and doubt. I believe in my heart that whoever is behind the tiai redirects is showing us that there is a bigger truth and we only need to see it for ourselves. I also believe that there will be a gradual global awakening that is so desperately needed, to heal our world. Humanity needs to develope emotional maturity and responsibilty for ourselves and eachother, resulting in a much more united, happier world.

I know this is a very idealistic view, but it is acheivable and and therefore believable.
Michael knows far more than any of us know. He has always seen our world from a distance and he sees how we have kind of lost ourselves. Lost the connection with love. If Michael can guide us towards love then he will have created a beautiful world to return to and feel a part of. All we have to do is see through all the garbage and discover that the only truth that is completely unbreakable and solid is love.

There could not have been a better way for this to happen and there is no-one that could achieve this but Michael and I would trust no-one else. The only words I can find to describe him are a 'true hero'. He truly is an unbelievably, amazing person.

He's done Past and present, he is now onto future. Book one is blank for the creating...

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Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Something really strange was said by Michael...LOVE last night on LKL. He said he is currently in the Temple of Ascension.

WHAT does that mean? I really believe MJ posts on that blog, but even so,,, what does that mean???


Something very interesting about the Temple of Ascension. read please:

The Sirius Temple of Ascension

 

It is a place of healing, initiation and contemplation. The Temple is very real and has many parts that exist on many dimensions. It is where the Sirian Masters work within higher dimensions. You could call it the Temples of ascension and yet there is one key Temple that we agree on for initiation and ceremonies. I facilitate the externalisation of the Temple in this dimension. I act as a portal for others to enter the Temple which shows how it can operate on different dimensions at once.

The Temple is essentially there to help individuals with ascension. An individual understanding of what ascension is, will be very much based on the current consciousness of that individual. You can say that is the growth and refinement of consciousness in an individual. You can say that it is the perfect grounding of spirit into our four -body system. You could say that it is the passing of spiritual tests and the receiving of initiations. It is all of these things and more and so the scope of the activities of the Temple is vast.

The Temple is also a state of being and a state of mind whereby a soul has arrived at a point where they are ready to evolve more, accept more and expand more. The consciousness of a soul is initially attracted to a part of the activities of the Temple and then can move around within the Temple according to its requirements and consciousness. There are many groups that work within the Temple and there is definitely a core place where ceremonies and initiations are taken and this is the holiest of places at the centre. It is set in the hills and beautiful lakes and forests surround it. It is a place where people in their deepest moment of self -realisation and gratitude are initiated into the next level of learning and opportunity for their lives. This is not limited to Sirians as this is a spiritual centre to those souls in this part of the Universe. There is a council attached to the Temple and yet it is that initiations are given by three Guardians of the Temple. These three are the holy keepers of the Temple. They are known by many by their beauty and importance. Their work is collectively known by many for they remember their initiations at this level.

Arriving at the Temple

Those in other dimensions who are ready to travel in mediation to the Temple may come to a meeting place where new arrivals are greeted. It is from here that it is decided how best to meet their requirements. There is a guide assigned to them to take them through the many levels of healing, enlightenment and education. The Temple is not a "conveyer belt" process as different aspects of the journey within the Temple can be taking place at once. There are guides that can assist with healing, spiritual education and initiation all at once. The Temple acts as a meeting point of service to others in the larger Galactic and Universal spheres.

Contemplation

There comes a time within the life of a soul that the stirrings and motivations to spiritually evolve are felt strongly. It is an important time when much needs to be integrated and a clear understanding is sought of what comes next. A period of contemplation is entered into within the Temple. Here we examine the motives in our lives to make sure that they are clear, pure and focused. It is a time to align to the will of God and understand this at all levels. It is a place to bring about a single focus across all lives, time and space. There is a review process and the chance to understand the consequences of our choices.

Experiencing Divine Energies

It is also an energetic experience. Through the absorption of Divine energies, a remembrance comes about of our original blueprint. We are re-united with our reason for being created. The opportunity to reunite with such high level energies whilst having existence in this dimension is rare and is felt as a release from all that is negative and a re-birth of our pure, unique and original God / Goddess self within our present consciousness.


Who uses the Temple?

There are many reasons why an individual soul may approach the Temple. There are certain individuals from the earth plane that have used the Temple and will continue to do so and this is in no way a comparison with the similar facilities offered by the wonderful masters of the spiritual hierarchy of earth. It is complementary to the activities of the masters of Shamballa. There are those whose spiritual evolution will be rapid and far reaching and so for them the Sirius Temple of Ascension would be a natural route to take. There are those who require the specialist services that the Temple can offer.

The benefits of receiving the attunements and the use of the Temple are different. The approach to the Temple comes about when there is a recognition that an individual soul is ready to embrace a new and higher level of spiritual awareness and being. Whereas to receive an attunement is to receive help with what an individual is working with now which ultimately may very well lead to a visit to the Temple. There is much more information and clarification to come through regarding the Temple and how to use it. I will be working on specific meditations to help those who are ready to go there in meditation. Please re-visit this site for further information regarding these meditations and for further general information.
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Something really strange was said by Michael...LOVE last night on LKL. He said he is currently in the Temple of Ascension.

WHAT does that mean? I really believe MJ posts on that blog, but even so,,, what does that mean???

I can't find much on this:

Ascension (mystical), the belief in some religions that there are certain rare individuals that have ascended into Heaven directly without dying first
Ascension of Jesus refers to both the bodily ascension of Jesus into heaven and an annual feast commemorating that event.
Ascension to heaven of Enoch (ancestor of Noah)
Spiritual enlightenment
    * Ascended master
    * Ishayas' Ascension
    * in some New Age teachings the spiritual transformation of the Earth
Right ascension, in astronomy, a term used to describe positions in the sky
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension

2. THE TEMPLE OF ASCENSION TESTS AND ASSESSMENT This temple is where each goes to take their tests for ascension or to be assessed for the next phase of work. Sometimes when one is unsure of what is wrong, a visit to this temple shall suffice at putting one back on track. It is also from this temple that one's soul can assess one's karmic issues

7. TEMPLE OF ASCENSION GRID WORK This temple holds all records for constructing ascension grid work in each phase of ascension. In essence, this temple holds information for transcribing the genetic blueprint for ascension and anchoring it around the physical form. Ascension grid work changes from level to level in initiation, and therefore one's own level can be compared to what should be in place given the knowledge held in the temple.

16. TEMPLE OF ASCENSION This temple holds records of all human ascensions that have occurred within the new consensus thus far. This includes successful and non-successful ascensions. One may review such records for the purposes of their own evolution.

To me it sounds like a place like where the "Book of Life' may be kept?
The Bible mentions various books, Num. 14, the Book of the Wars of the Lord, Ps 69:28 and Isa. 4:3 Book of the Living; Mal 3:16, Book of Remembrance, Rev. 20-12, Lamb's Book of Life. There are also many books in keeping the record of an individuals life.
http://http://www.letusreason.org/Doct5.htm
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[/quote]If you look at the blog it says that their communications come from Mikael. Wasn't it said in the media that Michael changed his name to Mikael?????   This could very well be for real!!![/quote]

ahhhhhhh...so MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON is dead
but MIKAEL JOE JACKSON is alive, healthy, happy and hopefully is smiling now whilst reading this thread.
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I think this is the painting from the Opus  :)

Yay you found the picture. I could not find it when I tried googling it.
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This is brilliant!  I agree 1000%!  This is it!  I thought I had a few things figured out, especially about his resurrection.  I started a thread about when I think his resurrection will be and I do still think it will be Easter weekend.  BUT, putting this all together, is truly fascinating.  Kudos to you!   :mrgreen:  :D  :lol:
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I think this is the painting from the Opus  :)

That painting is so beautiful. I believe there will be a resurrection, one way or the other.
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Great postings everyone, figure all things out. I love you all for sharing the same thoughts.

The gum issue... not everyone understood what i ment with the gum issue. The gum is also a clue in this is ist... In the movie you see Michael chewing his gum (never seen his chewing a gum that way)... and all over a sudden i saw at the 02 conference people chewing gum, all the fans...

Michael is a great director..(best singer, dancer, entertainer) he is the best in all of it.

There was never a movie discussed, issued and thought about as TII. Michael you are brilliant.

What a great feeling to know he is alive and wel L.O.V.E
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I believe this too!  I love that picture!  Too bad Opus costs so much...I would like to get it.  I am just so glad there are others here that are attuned to this!  I have felt so different these last few weeks... good feeling!  Thanks for the Temple of Ascension info.
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This has been an interesting thread - thanks for all the research. I have to say I have major doubts MJ would reveal himself on Easter. It is a high holy day for so many and I think over and over MJ tried to serve and spread God's message of love and service but he never likened himself to God or any higher being. I don't think he would impede on this day to make a grand reveal. JMO.
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This is just the beginning. We are all feed now with clues to prepare us for the final.
It is also no coincidence for me that the movie LEGION will be released at januari 22nd.
Look at the poster (angel with a sword)... there is really more to come..
Look at the light, look at the blue, look at the marks on his body (they reminds me on the marking at the stagefloor at the last rehearsel)
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WAUW i just watched the trailer with my mouth wide open  :o

Look at the simularities with THRILLER... wauw wauw wauw

http://www.moviesonline.ca/TheFeed/inde ... on-trailer
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I posted a thread a few days ago about how Michael sees our world from a distance. Like the view of an archangel, I now think...  :)  

Making history...

Postby Believe 777 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:29 pm

Hi everyone,

I have recently come to you since MJHD shutdown and I have to say I really like it here. :D :D :D

I would like to look at all this from a distance and say how profound this really is. Never before in history has an event like this ever taken place. I feel honoured to be a part of it. A large group of people who have two things in common which is of course is, our love for Michael and we all have questioning minds.This is quite a powerful combination. We are a select group of people who have felt something about Michaels 'death' that does not fit and have come together to make history.

Michael's message is so powerful and full of truth. He has knowledge that he needs to pass on to us and this way he has been able to stop a section of the world who look beyond what we are told and he has our undivided attention from our hearts. Pure brilliance!!!

He is not just telling us, he is showing us. This is unavoidably bringing emotion and vulnerabilities to the surface which can cause confusion, fear and doubt. I believe in my heart that whoever is behind the tiai redirects is showing us that there is a bigger truth and we only need to see it for ourselves. I also believe that there will be a gradual global awakening that is so desperately needed, to heal our world. Humanity needs to develope emotional maturity and responsibilty for ourselves and eachother, resulting in a much more united, happier world.

I know this is a very idealistic view, but it is acheivable and and therefore believable.
Michael knows far more than any of us know. He has always seen our world from a distance and he sees how we have kind of lost ourselves. Lost the connection with love. If Michael can guide us towards love then he will have created a beautiful world to return to and feel a part of. All we have to do is see through all the garbage and discover that the only truth that is completely unbreakable and solid is love.

There could not have been a better way for this to happen and there is no-one that could achieve this but Michael and I would trust no-one else. The only words I can find to describe him are a 'true hero'. He truly is an unbelievably, amazing person.

He's done Past and present, he is now onto future. Book one is blank for the creating...

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I couldn't agree more Believe777!  This amazing journey we have embarked upon has had many twists and turns but we are learning, day by day, to trust in Michael more and allow him show us the things he has been longing to share with us no doubt for years now.  To begin with we expected Michael to return within a short space of time, but I believe since the film 'This Is It' was released many of us have realised that Michael had a much higher purpose for hoaxing his death than just getting back at the media.  We have had to leave some of our preconceived ideas behind to go further along the path of understanding.  For some this is quite a challenging experience because it means leaving one's comfort zone and taking a leap of faith.  Michael understands this and is patient.  That's why I think he will take all the time he needs before returning because he wants us to be fully ready to go to the next level.  We need to grow, to learn, to shake off the negativity that has held us in its sway for so long and embrace positive energy, allowing love to flow through us, to energise us and make us whole.  This is a spiritual experience but one that is positive and full of light and promise.  Too many tend to put the word spiritual in the same basket as "religious" and give it a negative connotation.  But to fully embrace spirituality is to come fully into the light and allow healing to take place.  The soul longs to dance, to embrace, to love, to learn, to be truly free.  We are now going into a period in history when the soul will be given all the opportunities it needs to do these things.  I believe Michael has been giving us glimpses into these beautiful truths through his songs and by the way he lived his life.  Watching Michael dance and sing sometimes took us to a spiritual level.  We could SEE he had a connection with some Divine Source:  it just shone through every performance.   Now, through hoaxing his death, and taking us on this journey, Michael is finally able to share his long-held secrets with us.  And as he said in 'This Is It' -  "there's nothing to be nervous about."  Nor should we be fearful. since perfect love casts out fear.   Thank you Believe777 for your beautiful post.  I'm sure Michael is smiling now, knowing there are people on this forum who can truly SEE THE LIGHT and want to follow it to its journey's end.
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Thank you so much dear Emerald city....You have given some lovely insights into Archangels.

We have certainly come to an interesting point at an interesting time!!!

It's so heartwarming to see many others coming together in the light. We are truly on the next level now and ever closer to seeing our true selves. This is a journey of discovery and wonderment. Inner and outer beauty is what lies ahead for us. This is the meaning of "Your just another part of me". ;)  ;)
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I have registered for the newsletter from www.archangelmichaelconclave.com but I can't find how to become a member. Am I being blind, has anyone else managed to join.   :?:
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I am no expert, so trying to sound somewhat intellegent here.  I am a christian and I have always been interested in revelations and end times.  Right after michael died I found somewhere on the Internet a passage from the Bible that said in the end times, the archangel Michael will stand up for the children... or something like that; I wish I had saved it.  That, along with all of the things Michael said in his interviews, and the paintings in his home; and his poems... show that he was very spiritual and very knowledgeable about the end times, and I believe showed that he thought he was something more....  He grew up as a Jehovah witness, so he really knew it and believed it... so the question remains, is he really something more or did he just believe he was something more?  That is what I struggle with; because I am having a hard time seeing a rock pop singer as a possible messenger from God... especially after looking at the gold pants thread, LOL.

Not trying to get negative here, but sharing my feelings.  I am really scared sometimes that we are in fact in the end times... I read the Left Behind series... and I know alot is interpretation, but so many things in those books I am noticing and it makes me scared.  Not long ago at one of those conferences that Obama attended, the Russian leader brought out a sample "one world currency" - which is a sign of end times, according to that series, so they say anyway.  I have so much more to learn, and I wish I knew more what I was talking about.  If Michael is an angel, and a messenger, and something is coming... I hate to say it, but it scares me!  I'm the kind of person that likes to be in control and know everything...

I'm glad to see this thread; I have been having thoughts about this for a while and had a feeling that most of mj's clues and messages were religious based and he was trying to show us something, but I wasn't sure what it meant or how to interpret it...

sorry for rambling!
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I am no expert, so trying to sound somewhat intellegent here.  I am a christian and I have always been interested in revelations and end times.  Right after michael died I found somewhere on the Internet a passage from the Bible that said in the end times, the archangel Michael will stand up for the children... or something like that; I wish I had saved it.  That, along with all of the things Michael said in his interviews, and the paintings in his home; and his poems... show that he was very spiritual and very knowledgeable about the end times, and I believe showed that he thought he was something more....  He grew up as a Jehovah witness, so he really knew it and believed it... so the question remains, is he really something more or did he just believe he was something more?  That is what I struggle with; because I am having a hard time seeing a rock pop singer as a possible messenger from God... especially after looking at the gold pants thread, LOL.

Not trying to get negative here, but sharing my feelings.  I am really scared sometimes that we are in fact in the end times... I read the Left Behind series... and I know alot is interpretation, but so many things in those books I am noticing and it makes me scared.  Not long ago at one of those conferences that Obama attended, the Russian leader brought out a sample "one world currency" - which is a sign of end times, according to that series, so they say anyway.  I have so much more to learn, and I wish I knew more what I was talking about.  If Michael is an angel, and a messenger, and something is coming... I hate to say it, but it scares me!  I'm the kind of person that likes to be in control and know everything...

I'm glad to see this thread; I have been having thoughts about this for a while and had a feeling that most of mj's clues and messages were religious based and he was trying to show us something, but I wasn't sure what it meant or how to interpret it...

sorry for rambling!


For me I am not sure if there is a difference between actually being the archangel Michael or just believing. Nature doesn't put a label on anything. Nature doesn't use words. All I know is Michael is about the only person in existence who has this global connection and can really do this. Whether or not he is "the archangel Michael" is down to personal belief.
Don't be afraid, this is a wonderful time. This is not about end days but new beginnings.
Lets trust in nature to do what it does best,to  live and learn, in love.
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Quote from: "HiMichael"
I am no expert, so trying to sound somewhat intellegent here.  I am a christian and I have always been interested in revelations and end times.  Right after michael died I found somewhere on the Internet a passage from the Bible that said in the end times, the archangel Michael will stand up for the children... or something like that; I wish I had saved it.  That, along with all of the things Michael said in his interviews, and the paintings in his home; and his poems... show that he was very spiritual and very knowledgeable about the end times, and I believe showed that he thought he was something more....  He grew up as a Jehovah witness, so he really knew it and believed it... so the question remains, is he really something more or did he just believe he was something more?  That is what I struggle with; because I am having a hard time seeing a rock pop singer as a possible messenger from God... especially after looking at the gold pants thread, LOL.

Not trying to get negative here, but sharing my feelings.  I am really scared sometimes that we are in fact in the end times... I read the Left Behind series... and I know alot is interpretation, but so many things in those books I am noticing and it makes me scared.  Not long ago at one of those conferences that Obama attended, the Russian leader brought out a sample "one world currency" - which is a sign of end times, according to that series, so they say anyway.  I have so much more to learn, and I wish I knew more what I was talking about.  If Michael is an angel, and a messenger, and something is coming... I hate to say it, but it scares me!  I'm the kind of person that likes to be in control and know everything...

I'm glad to see this thread; I have been having thoughts about this for a while and had a feeling that most of mj's clues and messages were religious based and he was trying to show us something, but I wasn't sure what it meant or how to interpret it...

sorry for rambling!

O..so difficult to put in Englisch what i want to say!

But looke at history.
Not saying that Michael is a real angel..like from god.
But a person with a deep mission.
Like a messenger to spread love.
We have seen people like that before.
People who had normal lives and normal parents who have so much love in there harts to give(but are also only human)
These people make a change.
Maby i am far of..but i think of the story of Robin Hood..Steel from the rich(nasty people) to give to the poor..and fight for them.
But he also liked the lady's..Does  make him a less good person?? He did not wear gold pants..but tights..also good 8-)
I dont know how true this story is??
But i can think of a lot other storys until now were people made that change for other people.
A leader with the good message(but stil human) I sometimes think..who would have stayed this loving after everything he went trough,like he is..and how nasty people treat him..and stil believe in people..that must come from a deep goodnes and believe!
Does this make sence?
I believe he can and did do this!! :)
Greetings Mattie
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WAUW i just watched the trailer with my mouth wide open  :o

Look at the simularities with THRILLER... wauw wauw wauw

http://www.moviesonline.ca/TheFeed/inde ... on-trailer

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
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Maybe we have to follow Scott Stewart on tweet  :?
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yipee  :D im moonwalking now because i finally get it , :lol:  :lol: phew
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:lol:  :lol:  Me too

Predictions from people who studied archangel michael said he'll be back at july 11 or 12

(hmmm i remember a "see you all in july 2010-picture")

And why does the statue of Liberty comes through my head... i don't know
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Hell no! I can't understand a thing of this! I've read the theory again and again but still can't understand!  :?   :cry:  :cry:  Can someone tell me the main point of this? Please?
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The main point?!
I can't believe it...did you read all of this written?
Didn't you see all simularities?

The point IS... Michael will spread the message as archangel Michael.
He is soo much alive
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The main point?!
I can't believe it...did you read all of this written?
Didn't you see all simularities?

The point IS... Michael will spread the message as archangel Michael.
He is soo much alive

Yes I read all! But you have to understand this, my english was poor, I can't understand things while it's in a long theory ( I read and I forgot, which is irratating!) so pardon me for this.  :cry:  Btw.. thanks for clearing this up for me. :) :oops:
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just thought i would post this for
everyone,this is my fav Christmas song.
my brother also had this played at his wedding.
by the way i have read this entire thread over
the last 2 days and its brillant.... i have nothing
i can add....except this song.....

[YouTube]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/PB7mDvfLhrg&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/PB7mDvfLhrg&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/YouTube]

i sure hope i posted the vid right,first time i have ever
added a video.if not,i will try again...........
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If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.


I agree with you and I think he was planning to expose the NWO at the 02 concerts and that is why he 'disappeared' because he knew someone would try and stop him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7mDvfLhrg

sorry, how about now?
i dont know how to embed youtube
directly obviously...
 :oops:  :)  :geek:
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Quote from:
If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.


I agree with you and I think he was planning to expose the NWO at the 02 concerts and that is why he 'disappeared' because he knew someone would try and stop him.
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Many thanks it are Splendidly that you this having found .... o God if that is true.... I hope so much :cry:
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Quote from: "mattie"
Quote from: "HiMichael"
I am no expert, so trying to sound somewhat intellegent here.  I am a christian and I have always been interested in revelations and end times.  Right after michael died I found somewhere on the Internet a passage from the Bible that said in the end times, the archangel Michael will stand up for the children... or something like that; I wish I had saved it.  That, along with all of the things Michael said in his interviews, and the paintings in his home; and his poems... show that he was very spiritual and very knowledgeable about the end times, and I believe showed that he thought he was something more....  He grew up as a Jehovah witness, so he really knew it and believed it... so the question remains, is he really something more or did he just believe he was something more?  That is what I struggle with; because I am having a hard time seeing a rock pop singer as a possible messenger from God... especially after looking at the gold pants thread, LOL.

Not trying to get negative here, but sharing my feelings.  I am really scared sometimes that we are in fact in the end times... I read the Left Behind series... and I know alot is interpretation, but so many things in those books I am noticing and it makes me scared.  Not long ago at one of those conferences that Obama attended, the Russian leader brought out a sample "one world currency" - which is a sign of end times, according to that series, so they say anyway.  I have so much more to learn, and I wish I knew more what I was talking about.  If Michael is an angel, and a messenger, and something is coming... I hate to say it, but it scares me!  I'm the kind of person that likes to be in control and know everything...

I'm glad to see this thread; I have been having thoughts about this for a while and had a feeling that most of mj's clues and messages were religious based and he was trying to show us something, but I wasn't sure what it meant or how to interpret it...

sorry for rambling!

O..so difficult to put in Englisch what i want to say!

But looke at history.
Not saying that Michael is a real angel..like from god.
But a person with a deep mission.
Like a messenger to spread love.
We have seen people like that before.
People who had normal lives and normal parents who have so much love in there harts to give(but are also only human)
These people make a change.
Maby i am far of..but i think of the story of Robin Hood..Steel from the rich(nasty people) to give to the poor..and fight for them.
But he also liked the lady's..Does  make him a less good person?? He did not wear gold pants..but tights..also good 8-)
I dont know how true this story is??
But i can think of a lot other storys until now were people made that change for other people.
A leader with the good message(but stil human) I sometimes think..who would have stayed this loving after everything he went trough,like he is..and how nasty people treat him..and stil believe in people..that must come from a deep goodnes and believe!
Does this make sence?
I believe he can and did do this!! :)
Greetings Mattie

Darling Mattie - I just want you to know that your English is very good and I understand what you are saying perfectly!  All throughout history we have had people, often very ORDINARY, HUMBLE people, who have stood up for what is right and have fought for goodness and truth and to expose evil and greed.  Robin Hood is one example, Joan of Arc is another.  In ancient times we had people like Moses, Gideon, Jeremiah, and of course Jesus himself ... all putting themselves on the line to free people from the slavery of closed minds and a life of fear and show them a world where there are endless possibilites and where LOVE is the driving force.  I believe Michael Jackson is being used by a higher power in much the same way as the people from history  I have mentioned.  He is a high profile entertainer with a message that has always been one of love and unity and making a change.  His songs have been the vehicle he has used to spread the message, however it seemed there needed to be a SHOCKING event occur that would make people really sit back and take notice.  And so it was that the "death" of music legend Michael Jackson became the catalyst for people to go searching for the truth, and along the journey they would discover the L.O.V.E.  that had always been at the heart of Michael's message.  And this is what has been happening since the events of June 25th 2009.  We have been 'discovering' Michael all over again and now that we have become in tune with him he is finally able to lead us along the path which leads to light, unity and the connection with the Divine source of LOVE.

@ HiMichael, I understand your mixed feelings here.  I, too, have come from a religious background and actually spent some time in a fundamentalist movement that is very focused on end of time prophecy.  So I can understand where you are coming from.  I think what is happening at the moment is a global shift in awareness of spiritual things.  It's like many people are being awakened from a deep sleep and are finally seeing the world through a different pair of eyes.  The religious organisation I was once affiliated with unfortunately taught me to FEAR anything that wasn't sanctioned by the hierarchy of that organisation.  I see this now as the way they controlled me and many others and it was so very limiting.  No wonder my soul felt shackled!  I understand that feeling of wanting to be in control of a situation ... this is part of being human, the need to hold onto something solid, something definable.  The spiritual side of our nature knows no boundaries ... it is only us, in our human state, that puts limitations on the soul and this is why we are not truly at peace.   We all have a choice - whether to continue further along the path of enlightement or to stay where we are.  Divine Love never forces people to go against their inner voice ... it all must come naturally without coersion.  You will find your path HiMichael ... just keep listening to your inner voice and let it be your guide.  Sending Eternal love to all the beautiful souls out there ... Emerald xo
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Many thanks it are Splendidly that you this having found .... o God if that is true.... I hope so much :cry:
thanks..really you make me cry..L.o.v.e.
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No, now I must water wipe, maybe you have received exactly sign MJs and thanks you give me in such a way hope, many thanks for it honestly from the heart
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I am no expert, so trying to sound somewhat intellegent here.  I am a christian and I have always been interested in revelations and end times.  Right after michael died I found somewhere on the Internet a passage from the Bible that said in the end times, the archangel Michael will stand up for the children... or something like that; I wish I had saved it.  

Here it is:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/MICHAEL.htm
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In Daniel xii, Michael is called "the great prince who standeth for the children of Thy people."
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Michael Jackson was chosen and ordained to do what he did.  There is no other explanation for the greatness, the magnitude of his gifts.  He reached the PLANET with words, music, dance and joyful giving.  He is humble.  He is gracious.  He is a believer.  He is obedient.  MICHAEL JACKSON has always known that he would do great things.  He never questioned it.  He simply knew it and did it.  And in doing so, he gained so much wealth, so many accolades, so many followers, yet, it never changed his heart.  In the Bible it states that "a child will lead them".  I believe in the Bible and I believe that angels do walk the earth and take abode among us.  There are so many similarities in his walk on earth as was Jesus.  Only the times are different.  The message and the outcome is the same.  Look at Michael's eyes.  Look at the eyes if Jesus Christ.  From pictures we've seen, they have the same depth, the same knowledge, the same beauty.  The eyes never lie.  Now the onslaught.  Be it as it may.  I believe that he was our earth angel.  He was born to suffer and save the world.  He did both, with passion and compassion.  Nothing will sway me from that opinion.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

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Michael Jackson was chosen and ordained to do what he did.  There is no other explanation for the greatness, the magnitude of his gifts.  He reached the PLANET with words, music, dance and joyful giving.  He is humble.  He is gracious.  He is a believer.  He is obedient.  MICHAEL JACKSON has always known that he would do great things.  He never questioned it.  He simply knew it and did it.  And in doing so, he gained so much wealth, so many accolades, so many followers, yet, it never changed his heart.  In the Bible it states that "a child will lead them".  I believe in the Bible and I believe that angels do walk the earth and take abode among us.  There are so many similarities in his walk on earth as was Jesus.  Only the times are different.  The message and the outcome is the same.  Look at Michael's eyes.  Look at the eyes if Jesus Christ.  From pictures we've seen, they have the same depth, the same knowledge, the same beauty.  The eyes never lie.  Now the onslaught.  Be it as it may.  I believe that he was our earth angel.  He was born to suffer and save the world.  He did both, with passion and compassion.  Nothing will sway me from that opinion.

Thank you so much for your beautiful words... They remind me  one of my favourite poems by John Keats

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
        Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
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Look at some of the things Michael did, out of pure innocence and was persecuted for them.  He saw NOTHING wrong or evil in his doings.  It was the people who judged him.  But mark my word, by the time all is said and done, Michael will have brought down the masses.  They are lining up to fall as we speak.  It might take this trial thing to get the ball rolling.  But once it starts, it's gonna be something to foresee.   Change is imminent.  Even his Judas had to confess his lies.  Before long, there will be other  confessions. It will be impossible to stop the world from healing. The truth will indeed set you free.  Michael will rise to the high esteem that he held for himself again.  All the bull, the lies, the scandals will  be dispelled once and for all.  And Michael will rise like the Phoenix that he is.   I don't know if he is ArchAngel Michael, but he is Michael and he is an angel.  At least in my eyes and I feel it in my heart.  I always have.  I always will.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Look at some of the things Michael did, out of pure innocence and was persecuted for them.  He saw NOTHING wrong or evil in his doings.  It was the people who judged him.  But mark my word, by the time all is said and done, Michael will have brought down the masses.  They are lining up to fall as we speak.  It might take this trial thing to get the ball rolling.  But once it starts, it's gonna be something to foresee.   Change is imminent.  Even his Judas had to confess his lies.  Before long, there will be other  confessions. It will be impossible to stop the world from healing. The truth will indeed set you free.  Michael will rise to the high esteem that he held for himself again.  All the bull, the lies, the scandals will  be dispelled once and for all.  And Michael will rise like the Phoenix that he is.   I don't know if he is ArchAngel Michael, but he is Michael and he is an angel.  At least in my eyes and I feel it in my heart.  I always have.  I always will.

I absolutely agree with you! :mrgreen:
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Hello everybody! I haven't posted here in a while, so this will be long. I have felt deep in my heart that Michael was very special. He truely has "touched' me and that is why I chose my name to be Touched By An Angel. For the first couple of months after his "death" I was miserable thinking he really had died. What is below is what I posted on his official website on Sep. 26, 2009.

Hello everyone! My name is Carol and I'm from Del Rio, Texas. I'm 44 years old and remember MJ from the early days. When I graduated high school in 83 my music interests varied but leaned more towards country and blues. UNFORTUNATELY, I lost track of MJ all these years, and didn't know much at all about his music or him as a person until after his death. When I heard that he passed I was shocked like everyone else. I started watching his music videos on Youtube and was blown away. I became a little (ok a LOT) obsessed with him. I am so glad I re-discovered this incredible man! His lyrics move me so deeply, the messages so powerful. Since his passing I have watched hundreds of videos...for his songs, tributes, interviews, everything I can find. I've read books, watched Moonwalker, and of course seen how the media has affected his life and portrayed him. I have wept almost nonstop for the world's loss. Because I was out of the loop for so long I didn't have a clue until recently what Michael was all about. Now after two months of total absorption in everything Michael, I realize I have been Touched By An Angel! And even though it doesn't ease the pain one little bit, I think Michael knew he had important work/messages to bring to our world and he willing gave all he could to us. He planted the "seeds" to wake us up, to help us realize We Are The World and we can Heal The World! When I watched his memorial service on tv, it was incredible to see the outpouring of love from the world. The same thing again on his birthday. My hope is that the love and wisdom Michael shared with us all will bring about a real change for this world. Has anyone heard of the "hundredth monkey" effect? In brief, there was a group of monkeys on an island somewhere I believe. People tossed sweet potatoes to the monkeys. The sweet potatoes would get covered in sand and the monkeys would eat them anyway. Well one day a young monkey somehow learned to put the potato in the water and it removed the sand and was much nicer to eat that way. In a short time more and more monkeys started observing and learned to wash their potatoes too. About the time that the hundredth monkey on the island learned this new behavior, scientist in other parts of the world noticed that monkeys they were observing began to do the same thing. The monkeys were not genetically related to the monkeys on the island, yet almost instantly they just "knew" this new behavior. It is speculated that the monkeys share a "universal consciousness". Soooo, I believe that humans also share a universal consciousness, and when enough of us focus our energy and actions on positive outcomes for ALL of humanity, WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD! Michael is the catalyst, let us all follow his lead and help to accomplish what he started! God knows we all need to start loving each other and the planet we live on, so he blessed us with Michael and the messages we so desperately needed to hear. Michael believed in Love, Peace, Tolerance, and Joyful Giving. Let's emulate his fine example and bring about the "hundredth monkey" effect for humanity! Together we can make this Heaven on Earth. I have faith in humanity, and Michael did too. I love you Michael, and I for one "got the message!"

Below is what I posted a few weeks ago and I believe it more than ever!!!

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Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
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Would sound crazy if I tell you that at times I think Michael, if he comes back, he will be a priest or a religious "sheik"  :oops:   :lol:
Maybe he will be even more than that...

Mathew 13:13 ...because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand."

Tell me what you think :) I won´t judge you.


Hi Gema

Wow that's a tough question and one I will personally ramble on for a bit about and try to give my point of view on all this with MJ. First I will have to admit that I never really have been what you would call a "fan" of any celebrity. Yes I may like someone's talent more than another, but not like I go out and buy all their cd's or movies, etc. They are after all, just people.  Anyway, I'm 44 yrs. old and I remember Michael from my teenage years. After high school, marriage, a child, and such, I didn't keep up with him, or any artist really. Just listened to the radio, whatever was on. Then we skip ahead to the day it was announced that he had "died". I was shocked, just as I was about Farrah Fawcett having passed just hours earlier. Later that evening I went to YouTube and watched some of MJ's videos. When I began to realize everything about this incredible man that I had somehow missed, I started to weep! We are talking over 20 years worth of catching up to do! The more I learned the more my heart ached with both love and pain. How could we have lost this most precious soul, and how could all these horrible things have been done to him! Something about Michael really touched my heart! His song lyrics are so meaningful, his whole presence so very special. I wept nonstop for the first couple of months thinking we had lost a gift from above that was doing his very best to heal this world. I was originally on the official Michael Jackson site, and at the time I thought he was truely gone, I made this post.

http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/blog/m ... sage-world

Then a couple of months ago, someone over there posted a link to a website with info about his death being a hoax. I went to that forum, and several others since, and my whole life has changed! It didn't take long with all the great investigators on the forums, to see that there were too many things about his "death" that didn't add up. Really there was no concrete proof...just the media, and we know how well we can believe them LOL Then the clues started coming from the TIAI website and I started watching like many others to see what it was about. By the time it got to the movie V for Vendetta, I was smiling and ever so hopeful. As more clues came in I was just amazed at how much work went into this hoax and what Michael was doing it for. He really is going to make a difference and make things right!

I should also admit that I don't follow any particular religion. I do believe in a Loving Creator, call it God, Allah, or any other name that suits you. I've always tried to be a good person and treat others the way I would like to be treated. I went to church with my grandma when I was young, but drifted away as I got into my teens. As an adult I guess I have been searching for what felt right to me. I've looked into different beliefs/religions and seen good in all. I have also seen how different religions cause people to be against one another, cause war, and divide people. So I have continued to search, knowing there is an answer if I just keep looking. Then along comes Michael into my life. He has always shown respect to all races and looked for the good in all. And that is what I think his message is about. My heart and intuition have held me so tightly to Michael since I re-discover him...and it feels wonderful beyond belief. He really has brought an awareness, awakening, and hope for all of humanity! Now my heart sings with joy. Michael is very clearly showing us through these messages/links what is causing the destruction of our planet and all of us on it. There is good and there is evil and he is trying to wake us up to this fact. If people will only take these messages seriously and look at what he has shown us, we CAN heal the world! We have to have faith and believe in ourselves. There are a lot more good people in the world than there are evil, greedy, selfish people. Michael is a messenger for all the good people of the world to UNITE, and when we do, evil will be defeated. LOVE/GOOD will always conquer FEAR/EVIL. Watch the movie V for Vendetta if you haven't already. It shows the power of unity and also shows that you gain freedom when you lose the control fear has over you. Look at our society today and you will see the fear propaganda everywhere. Watch the movie EndGame to see what MJ is showing us. I found links to watch both these movies free online and they are on my thread here along with all the other links we have been given.
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=150

Ok, so my bottom line? I think Michael is an angel of sorts. Perhaps the ArchAngel Michael? I don't know for sure, but I think he was definitely put on this planet to wake us up before it is too late. I got the "message" and I'm doing my best to help spread the good news. Isn't it time we all loved each other and quit acting the way we do?

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel  <----Now owns most of MJ's cd's :-)
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:shock:  :shock:  I'm ...SPEECHLESS... The words aren't even enough to tell all of you how brilliant your posts are!
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Hi, Touched By An Angel.  We have alot in common.  I am 38 (own your age, right?), married and live not too far from 2300 Jackson Street (Michael's hometown).

I, too, wasn't a diehard MJ fan and when they announced his death, I was sad, but not anymore than when any other celebrity passed away.  However, about a month ago, I got this overwhelming feeling of sadness for Michael.  Almost like I had lost a close friend or family member.  Well, I became immersed in all things MJ.  I watched videos, read court transcripts, looked at pictures, etc.  I suddenly realized what a genuine, kind, intelligent and SEXY person he was.  One day, I got this thought that maybe he really didn't die.  I had always had my suspicions, but everyone kept telling me I was crazy.  He's dead.  Well, the feeling he was still alive was just too strong so, I Googled "did Michael Jackson fake his death" and the rest his HIStory!  I am now "hooked  on the hoax."
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@ HiMichael, I understand your mixed feelings here.  I, too, have come from a religious background and actually spent some time in a fundamentalist movement that is very focused on end of time prophecy.  So I can understand where you are coming from.  I think what is happening at the moment is a global shift in awareness of spiritual things.  It's like many people are being awakened from a deep sleep and are finally seeing the world through a different pair of eyes.  The religious organisation I was once affiliated with unfortunately taught me to FEAR anything that wasn't sanctioned by the hierarchy of that organisation.  I see this now as the way they controlled me and many others and it was so very limiting.  No wonder my soul felt shackled!  I understand that feeling of wanting to be in control of a situation ... this is part of being human, the need to hold onto something solid, something definable.  The spiritual side of our nature knows no boundaries ... it is only us, in our human state, that puts limitations on the soul and this is why we are not truly at peace.   We all have a choice - whether to continue further along the path of enlightement or to stay where we are.  Divine Love never forces people to go against their inner voice ... it all must come naturally without coersion.  You will find your path HiMichael ... just keep listening to your inner voice and let it be your guide.  Sending Eternal love to all the beautiful souls out there ... Emerald xo[/size][/color][/quote]


Thank you Emerald City for your wise words; I will think on them and I appreciate your posting to me.  We actually PMed each other before... I had a different user name on the original forum; it was the Sunday before This Is It came out.  We were trying to figure out a clue.  ;)   Remember?  Thanks again; I actually have an open mind to many spiritual ideas; I keep my mouth closed at church about a lot of things I think about LOL; and I agree that sometimes I feel shackled.  I was actually scared of anything that had to do with the Bible until I got older, mainly because of hateful attitudes from my grandmother when I was younger - she knew the Bible but was a hateful person and it really confused me.  

Where I come from there are a lot of opinions, a lot of "rules" about how a Christian should be, should act, etc. and that background is where some of my hesitation and doubt comes from about all of this... but I love to learn which is why I am here.  Thanks again for your post and I hope to see more posts from you.
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I love to reed all these heartwarming posts. i was looking and googeling again for archamgel Michael. You see the amulet? I remember Michael was wearing an amulet regularly.
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He also says THESE wil be my final show
He should say THIS wil be my final show

I assure you there is more to come

He actually says, "these will be my final show performances."  ;)
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Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
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He also says THESE wil be my final show
He should say THIS wil be my final show

I assure you there is more to come

He actually says, "these will be my final show performances."  ;)

Yes you are right  :oops:
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You know what is so fascinating is that we HAD to be put into a personal crisis to start searching.
We are not only blessed being witnesses but we ARE part of the revolution going on.
This is very exciting....

Look at this and search with your mouse in the upper third for "This is also MJ"...
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=46042973

There will be no answer for you as a digital cheeseburger on a tablet - neither here nor anywhere.
You have to work for it. But the answer is priceless.
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I agree Emerald,  unfortunately there are so many blind and bad people out there, they don't believe in him, they can't believe how a man can be so good with children without molesting them  :x  :x , they can't believe in good and humble people being a super star like Michael... I don't know, I hope all those men and women that hate him change their opinion and feelings once for all.

As for us, we love you Michael 4ever.

I feel blessed to have known you, other people were not so lucky.
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on page 8 of this thread a wonderful post by Touched by an angel
 a small part i'd like to pay attention to :
WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD! Michael is the catalyst, let us all follow his lead and help to accomplish what he started! God knows we all need to start loving each other and the planet we live on, so he blessed us with Michael and the messages we so desperately needed to hear

ok what was it that Kenny Ortega said in TII ? Something about may we continue with Michael leading the way  :D
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Quote from: "MJhunny"
on page 8 of this thread a wonderful post by Touched by an angel
a small part i'd like to pay attention to :
WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD! Michael is the catalyst, let us all follow his lead and help to accomplish what he started! God knows we all need to start loving each other and the planet we live on, so he blessed us with Michael and the messages we so desperately needed to hear

ok what was it that Kenny Ortega said in TII ? Something about may we continue with Michael leading the way :D

Yes Kenny did say that ;D
this is funny 'cause I just watched the TII-trailer again  :lol:
soo, this is what our dear Kenny says :
'We're all here because of him. May that continue with him leading the way.'
well, I think this sounds religious, BUT ofcourse Kenny could really mean 'the concert' but I believe he didn't mean the concert though.

 I just wanted to say one thing ...that we shouldn't go too far with those 'signs' I do believe there really are alot of clues.. But someone posted in another topic that he/she finds it awkward that ( I think Marlon? Well it was some of the Jackson brothers..) said ' I pray for him' well.... My uncle died recently and my family also prays for him.
I don't want to be rude to anyone, 'cause I really appreciate your opinions. Without all those members we would be nowhere . It's just... Don't look too far. Just look :)
Oh and to make one thing clear: I'm a believer :)
with love
Jolien
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Numer 6 is the number for archangel Michael..
Wow interesting... James Brown (his inspiration) died exactly 6 months before (and changed clothing..google immages..james brown funural)
The way James Brown looked was making me think... he was dressed as MJ in the final rehearsels.. See the blue jacket and the grey and red suit.
December 25 could be it
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Michael's birthday:-
2+9+8+1+9+5+8=42
4+2=6 ;)
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"The Archangel Michael was considered to be God's right hand man/angel in the battle against Satan. Both St Michael (& St George) are the patron saints of chivalry. There is an Chivalric Order of France, the Order of St Michael, that was established in 1469. Traditionally St Michael is the patron saint of policemen and soldiers ( & PI's?). St Michael also has other titles within the catholic church as the Angel of Death"

"In Daniel we find that Michael is one of the chief princes and that He is our prince. That might mean He is in line for the Throne. We also find Him working behind the scenes with Gabriel to ensure that God's will for nations actually occurs.

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. "
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Who deals in love beyond repair
He can heal the world
Of hearts in need of care
Shine a light ahead
When the next step is unclear
Call the man
He\'s needed here"

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Quote from: "Jolienphotography"
Quote from: "MJhunny"
on page 8 of this thread a wonderful post by Touched by an angel
a small part i'd like to pay attention to :
WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD! Michael is the catalyst, let us all follow his lead and help to accomplish what he started! God knows we all need to start loving each other and the planet we live on, so he blessed us with Michael and the messages we so desperately needed to hear

ok what was it that Kenny Ortega said in TII ? Something about may we continue with Michael leading the way :D

Yes Kenny did say that ;D
this is funny 'cause I just watched the TII-trailer again  :lol:
soo, this is what our dear Kenny says :
'We're all here because of him. May that continue with him leading the way.'
well, I think this sounds religious, BUT ofcourse Kenny could really mean 'the concert' but I believe he didn't mean the concert though.


I think he said this, after they heard of Michael's "death".
So, he's not speaking about the concert, but about everything that followed the rehearsal.
Something even BIGGER ;-)
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Michael's birthday:-
2+9+8+1+9+5+8=42
4+2=6 ;)

This is no coincidence  :shock:
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Oetoort,
So many chances???? If I barely believe .... yeah ;) Thank you
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Wow, When I first posted on the first page of this thread, I was confused. Now one year later I have re-read this thread and it now makes perfect sense! This is the thread that started me on my journey to Enlightenment and truth and I think that now is a good time for others to re-read this thread. There are a lot of great posts here with some valuable information in them.

This "hoax" has proved that MJ is the greatest entertainer ever, but  there is another part of this hoax that is even more important...the L.O.V.E part. Michael said "It's all for Love" what does that mean to you guys?

I hope that more will take the time to follow the Love path and search out the answer to why Michael said "its all for Love" There is a much bigger picture here and we need to investigate this.

Just curious...How do you think this whole hoax is going to end? I'm really curious what you think, so please post your answer! Thanks
Blessings Love and Light to you all :) <3
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I have to jump in here, not to be rude or anything, but many of us in the forum have discussed this more than many times......and also because we all have seen visions from Michael.

Just recently, I posted a similar finding, and everyone thought I was "off track and that it was not believable"....

Well if I can now add to this thread with some of my findings, and most of it is very recent, thanks to SERENITYSDreams...just look at the video clip of HOLD MY HAND..
 
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Michael is or was an angel, but the understanding of scripture is being made more clear and more defined then ever before. Why now, for when the generation is the last generation understanding will be come very clear, and man will know, the antichrist will only be known when he stands in the temple and claims to be GOD end of. Anyone who thinks he can point to the Antichrist now is a fool, and anyone who seeks shall not find him until its time.On the other hand GOD has made it clear who is come, and who will be seen, but believed only be the true church of GOD, and we will then know who are false, including religious leaders, and false prophets and all who claim to be, for they simply have there false words to back them.
Michael will be born human, how, why, Scripture gives the answers and the Key is in the person to come. Put the two together, and you see living prophecy being fulfilled.
Same as it happen to Jesus.

The greatest gift to that GOD can give an angel is to be born human. Only GOD the father has that power to do so, and let no one deceive you other wise.GOD has showed us how to test, how to know who is, and who is not of GOD, and GOD is making sure we will know 100% the real Michael will be, for only GOD can make it so, and place all signs, symbols, numbers, ancestry, and hints from the bible into one person just like Jesus was given, there can be no mistake this time, for the whole true church of GOD will believe it, of course the false churches will be in a panic to denote it, but the facts are facts. No matter the weeds must be separated from the wheat, to which this will happen, and the evil that Governments and leaders will not change, but get worse, for they will know that have but a little time left, and know that the fruits of evil commented by them will condemn them, they now have nothing to lose.God is brilliant, perfect in his plans, which will not change for they were set in stone from the very beginning of our time.


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I believe there is a bigger picture and I hope I can make sense here.  

"It's all about love" plays over and over in my mind and now that I have learned more Bible truth, I truly believe this hoax when it comes down to it, is about God.  His love for all mankind and what he promises us, a paradise earth, if only we will listen and do God's will.

"this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth"
(see Mathew 24: 3 and 14).

Crazy as it may sound but how do we know that Michael isn't a messenger, no one knows.

Michael is able to reach millions and maybe God is involved, maybe not but I feel that this hoax is headed towards seeking knowledge, seeking the truth and keeping that shield of faith to avoid Satan's missiles.  Satan has a short time left, yes human governments as well.

There are so many parallels to this hoax and the bible, this has been discussed before but if we are so bound and determined to stand up for Michael, why can't we stand up for God and prove Satan a liar.

It's all for L.O.V.E.
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I found this web-site last year and it was way so much interesting to me like you guys said. I know that it was such a dumb question to ask them but I emailed and asked them if this page has anything to do with Michael Jackson. :lol:  And they were polite enough to write back and tell me it has nothing to do with the singer MJ but it is only about the Archangel Michael. But we couldn't expect them to tell me the page is about Michael Jackson, could we? :D
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I found this web-site last year and it was way so much interesting to me like you guys said. I know that it was such a dumb question to ask them but I emailed and asked them if this page has anything to do with Michael Jackson. :lol:  And they were polite enough to write back and tell me it has nothing to do with the singer MJ but it is only about the Archangel Michael. But we couldn't expect them to tell me the page is about Michael Jackson, could we? :D
Thankyou PureLove.....of course they would say that.. :D  :D

But we just have to trust in ourselves, and follow your own heart.

Everyone who has met MJ personally, all have said the same thing..when they touch him, they felt "overwhelmed by his presence"  almost like a spiritual awakening.  Now not many people will believe he is an earth archangel...but, he is the closest thing to it..we just have to think for ourselves...

This image was seen outside of the courthouse...and captured on film.

Another image captured on film, was during a mob performance...and suddenly experienced a strange image or phenomenon...and you can see in these images..
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I found this web-site last year and it was way so much interesting to me like you guys said. I know that it was such a dumb question to ask them but I emailed and asked them if this page has anything to do with Michael Jackson. :lol:  And they were polite enough to write back and tell me it has nothing to do with the singer MJ but it is only about the Archangel Michael. But we couldn't expect them to tell me the page is about Michael Jackson, could we? :D
Thankyou PureLove.....of course they would say that.. :D  :D

But we just have to trust in ourselves, and follow your own heart.

Everyone who has met MJ personally, all have said the same thing..when they touch him, they felt "overwhelmed by his presence"  almost like a spiritual awakening.  Now not many people will believe he is an earth archangel...but, he is the closest thing to it..we just have to think for ourselves...

This image was seen outside of the courthouse...and captured on film.

Another image captured on film, was during a mob performance...and suddenly experienced a strange image or phenomenon...and you can see in these images..

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

WOW!!! I saw that heart shaped cloud somewhere before and thought that it was a photoshop but it was real? WOW!!! And what's that smoke look thing in the last picture? That looks like a spirit to me.  :shock:

And I do agree with you about the things you wrote about Michael. I feel like it is despising Michael when we say "MJ is just a human". He is human but I do feel that he's someone VERY special. If all humans were like MJ, there would be no war or anything bad in this world. You know what I'm saying? And I do believe that there're some special people that were sent to this world to show the humanity the right way and to help them. Whatever you call them; angels, fairies, superhumans whatever. I do believe their existence and I call them angels in human bodies. I do believe Michael is one of those very rare humans. God bless his beautiful heart and soul.
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OLD ARTICLE about Mike seen as the archangel

- courtesy to a fan, Pompous Git, from Maximus Jackson fan page

http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussi ... php?t=5855 -


Archangel Michael puts Jehovah's Witnesses in turmoil

Split as star's Thriller fans form the MJ Cult




From PHILIP FINN in New York

POP superstar Michael Jackson has been pronounced the Archangel Michael by adoring young members of his religious sect, the Jehovah Witnesses.

But it has bitterly divided the two and a half million Witnesses world-wide and upset the clean-living singer. Older Church members far from putting Jackson on a pedestal, cannot forgive him for appearing as a devilish werewolf in his smash-hit video, Thriller.
Young Witnesses, hooked on the Prince of Pop's music, his dress and his shadow dancing have formed the MJ Cult. They believe the 26-year old multi-millionaire is the Archangel Michael as described in the Book of Daniel, Chapter 12. Verse 1, and "will deliver his people" Part of the passage reads: "And at that time, shall Michael stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the Children of God."

But more fundamental witnesses feel Jackson represents an unhealthy and decadent faction which is damaging the Church's image. James Penton, a professor of religious studies in Alberta, Canada, said yesterday that Jackson had even been threatened with disfellowship, excommunication from the Church because of his "worldly activities." Professor Penton who says he was himself excommunicated in 1981 that Jackson subsequently renounced the Thriller video in an issue of Awake, a sect publication which has a circulation of nine million. In the article, Jackson says: "I realise now it was not a good idea…I'll never do a video like that again." The row is expected to explode next month with a week-long series of protests by young dissidents outside the Witnesses' headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. One of the protest Organisers. Mr David Riccobini, of Connecticut, said "It is the first time Witness kids have had someone to look up to. Otherwise they lead a very drab life." Jackson, who often disguises himself to do missionary work for the Church, was touring last night and unavailable But friends say he is "deeply troubled" by the row.

(Daily Express 30/8/84).
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A very good place to learn more about Michael is in the lost book of Enoch that used to be in the Holy Bible but was torn out by a roman pope way in the past. Once again MJ will and is freeing the mj. That resin he left behind in his room which trumps all of them nasty man made drugs. Michael according to Enoch is all about that sweet smelling tree and revealing its full potential to the world over. I have said for a year and half Michael Jackson has to be archangel Michael. People for years have thought "Michael" in the Bible was really Jesus. But that is not true. We all know the comparisons though, persecutions, his L.O.V.E for children and helping them beat cancer and other diseases. THIS IS IT!!! Michael is the official trumpet blower to wake the world up during this horrible time of greed and hate.
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A very good place to learn more about Michael is in the lost book of Enoch that used to be in the Holy Bible but was torn out by a roman pope way in the past. Once again MJ will and is freeing the mj. That resin he left behind in his room which trumps all of them nasty man made drugs. Michael according to Enoch is all about that sweet smelling tree and revealing its full potential to the world over. I have said for a year and half Michael Jackson has to be archangel Michael. People for years have thought "Michael" in the Bible was really Jesus. But that is not true. We all know the comparisons though, persecutions, his L.O.V.E for children and helping them beat cancer and other diseases. THIS IS IT!!! Michael is the official trumpet blower to wake the world up during this horrible time of greed and hate.

I don't think this is far off. I think we've discussed it before on the marijuana thread. I think Michael's job is to expose all the lies, and the lies about marijuana are definitely some of the biggest.

But yes, I do feel Michael is special and has a special job here on Earth. As a matter of fact, I don't think any of us would care so much and be so deeply drawn to him if this weren't the case...
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For those who understand French I did 2 videos that I released yesterday on archangel Michael and Gabriel vs. Michael, there are clues I haven't seen anywhere... See the cover of album "Michael" with a picture of archangel Michael!
If you don't understand french some of the images will make you understand some points...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfkFBOYoV_s (part A)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOOrFgyHXf4 Part B

L.O.V.E.

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A very good place to learn more about Michael is in the lost book of Enoch that used to be in the Holy Bible but was torn out by a roman pope way in the past. Once again MJ will and is freeing the mj. That resin he left behind in his room which trumps all of them nasty man made drugs. Michael according to Enoch is all about that sweet smelling tree and revealing its full potential to the world over. I have said for a year and half Michael Jackson has to be archangel Michael. People for years have thought "Michael" in the Bible was really Jesus. But that is not true. We all know the comparisons though, persecutions, his L.O.V.E for children and helping them beat cancer and other diseases. THIS IS IT!!! Michael is the official trumpet blower to wake the world up during this horrible time of greed and hate.

I don't think this is far off. I think we've discussed it before on the marijuana thread. I think Michael's job is to expose all the lies, and the lies about marijuana are definitely some of the biggest.

But yes, I do feel Michael is special and has a special job here on Earth. As a matter of fact, I don't think any of us would care so much and be so deeply drawn to him if this weren't the case...

Another thing to add about marijuana - doesn't TMZ seem very pro pot?  Any celebrity, doesn't matter who it is, will get a write up on TMZ if they are busted for pot or "sticky icky" as TMZ likes to call it.  A lot of us think Michael and TMZ are working together, I know I do.  Marijuana is obviously not the reason for the hoax, but there are so many reasons.  And isn't it interesting you cannot be influenced through mind control when you're "high"?  And don't forget this gem that TMZ posted:

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A very good place to learn more about Michael is in the lost book of Enoch that used to be in the Holy Bible but was torn out by a roman pope way in the past. Once again MJ will and is freeing the mj. That resin he left behind in his room which trumps all of them nasty man made drugs. Michael according to Enoch is all about that sweet smelling tree and revealing its full potential to the world over. I have said for a year and half Michael Jackson has to be archangel Michael. People for years have thought "Michael" in the Bible was really Jesus. But that is not true. We all know the comparisons though, persecutions, his L.O.V.E for children and helping them beat cancer and other diseases. THIS IS IT!!! Michael is the official trumpet blower to wake the world up during this horrible time of greed and hate.

I don't think this is far off. I think we've discussed it before on the marijuana thread. I think Michael's job is to expose all the lies, and the lies about marijuana are definitely some of the biggest.

But yes, I do feel Michael is special and has a special job here on Earth. As a matter of fact, I don't think any of us would care so much and be so deeply drawn to him if this weren't the case...

Another thing to add about marijuana - doesn't TMZ seem very pro pot?  Any celebrity, doesn't matter who it is, will get a write up on TMZ if they are busted for pot or "sticky icky" as TMZ likes to call it.  A lot of us think Michael and TMZ are working together, I know I do.  Marijuana is obviously not the reason for the hoax, but there are so many reasons.  And isn't it interesting you cannot be influenced through mind control when you're "high"?  And don't forget this gem that TMZ posted:


Yes! That's a great point. They do seem very pro-pot. And the mind control influence thing is undenyable for anyone who's experienced it.
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Could someone please help me out- just wanting to understand where the belief comes from that Michael the Archangel is NOT Jesus himself?  If this belief is from bible, can you direct me to the scriptures?
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isn't the archangel Michael supposed to be the one to slay Lucifer during Armageddon? Michael's sword is supposed to be what kills him right? I am not overly religious (well not religious at all), but for some reason I remember this.

If that is true, maybe this has something to do with the Illuminati and 2012.

I will say this once here, and probably never again because it's really a bit far fetched but I kinda think it could happen.  :geek:

If the conspiracy theorists are right about the Illuminati and 2012, and the music industry had Michael working for the illuminati for a short period of time until he said *NO MORE* and released songs like TDRCAU and Heal the World, then MJ would know fully about what is going to happen in 2012. Tommy (big card in the illuminati) Motolla tried to bring him down during the trial. Maybe MJ planned this so the world would stop being prejudice towards him and listen. I dont know of anybody that thinks poorly of MJ when before there was. Isn't it a little odd that TDRCAU was the first thing released after his death. Not Billie Jean, Smooth Criminal? Maybe he is planning this to expose the New World Order.

Thereeee we go. There's one of my theories  :lol:

I think you are right, I believe one of the reasons for all of this is to expose the New World Order, and yes the first clip of film I saw on the TV was the one of TDRCAU it was the first clip that was released! Coincidence I dont think so.  So there we are that makes two of us. :shock:
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I hope the following text is ok to post under all your postings...i thought maybe you are all interested to read about "how to work with archangel michael".....
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How to Work With Archangel Michael
(By Alice Landry, eHow Contributor)



Archangel Michael is a powerful angel that can help release fears.


Archangel Michael can be called upon to assist you in daily endeavors as well as during major life events. Michael is an archangel prevalent in numerous religious traditions and needs no specific affiliation in order to provide help. According to the spiritual law of free will, angelic guides are not allowed to interfere in your life without permission unless you are involved in a life-threatening situation before it is your time to die. Believers can invoke Archangel Michael for overall protection or for help with certain tasks related to his specialty areas, such as life purpose and mechanical tasks.

Instructions:
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Start with one problem. Decide upon one life area or situation in which you would like Archangel Michael to assist. Michael's attributes and associations include personal, family, and global protection; increase in strength and courage; removal of negative energetic attachments and fixing technical, mechanical or electrical problems.
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Ask Archangel Michael for help. You can verbally call upon Michael, use a journal to write an invocation or set an intention to receive divine guidance through dreams or synchronicity in waking life.
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Observe for signs from Archangel Michael. Michael has an impressive, often palpable, spiritual presence. He may indicate that he is listening and is available as a guide through physical, psychic or mental and emotional means. For example, you may see the name Michael on a billboard, hear the word "angel" loudly in one ear or feel a strong sense of overall peace.
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Open yourself to receiving Archangel Michael's guidance. Michael may send messages in the form of repetitive or consecutive signs. Pay extra attention to those that occur as three similar coincidences in a short time span, such as overhearing a conversation that seems to speak directly to you, suddenly realizing the next best step to take and seeing an actual sign that reads "Go for it!"
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Follow through with angelic guidance. Archangel Michael may encourage you through intuitive wisdom or a gut feeling to seek relationships that are of integrity, to overcome your fears by making lifestyle changes and to stand up for what you believe is healthy and honorable for your situation. Express gratitude for Michael's assistance and use his direction to improve your life.
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Divine guidance can be received through clairvoyant (seeing), clairaudient (hearing), clairsentient (feeling) or claircognizant (knowing) means. You can ask Archangel Michael to live with you and each of your loved ones. Use Archangel Michael's mighty sword in a visualization exercise to cut away negative, energetic attachments to unhealthy people, places or situations.

Though angels and archangels may guide you to change your life and rise above challenges, divinely inspired messages are always loving and supportive and will never suggest harm to yourself or others.
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It is just my own believe that there is so much more behind " the final curtan call".....behind the real meaning of this text from Alice Landry
but think about it yourself for a moment....

L.O.V.E. - emmy
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The History Channel has a show about Angels and Aliens. They are saying they are messengers. Now they are talking about the Book of Enoch. It is on now EST and I am sure will repeat. It shud be online too.

http://www.history.com/schedule/12/9
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Wow, I got through all 10 pages! Interesting that a whole year has gone by since this thread started, and mj4ever777 made the 12 month post jump. I guess I didn't post at all but I remember going to the Archangel site.  I just have a few comments. I especially liked the comments by Hesouttamylife.

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For many.many years I have believed that Michael was not of this planet. I have always, literally believed, that he was an earth angel. That he was sent here for a purpose and that God gave him all the talent he needed to earn all the money it would take to do the job that he was meant to do. And he did it better than anyone could have done it. There is something in Michael's eyes. It's like his eyes talk. His eyes hold secrets. His eyes hold wisdom. Michael has always been ahead of his time. He has always been an inquisitor. He has always been an avid learner. His interest are varied and he has mastered all of them. There is nothing you can put before him that he does not understand. There is no religion that he has not practice and visited and gotten to know its doctrine. Be honest, what adult male do you know who genuinely still has the heart of a child, pure and unspoiled? What adult man do you know who would go on the record saying he allows children to sleep in his bed, he sometimes will sleep along side them and know without any semblance of doubt, that he did it for just the reason he stated, out of love for them. To share your bed with someone is an act of love, pure and simple. He went on tv holding a child's hand and you saw in his demeanor, in his eyes, in his joy, that this was normal for him. It was nothing to be ashamed of. It was done purely out of love. It's what God would have done. Michael ALWAYS talks about his gifts coming from God. He speaks of how God gives him the words to his songs, the ideas for everything he has ever done. I believe it. What other explanation could there be? Michael has the ability to bring to life the most vivid, beautiful, creative, intricate, complex, expressions, be it in music, song, dance, video, vision for the world, Neverland, what ever, without any formal training or blueprints. It just comes to him, he receives it, and then he works his magic, and "poof" it happens. It blows me away. I do believe that he talks to God. I believe that God sees, hears, knows and answers him. I believe that he is an angel fallen to earth. There is not another human being that I've ever known or ever heard of who remained so innocent and pure at heart, even when he was up against things that could have changed the course of his life forever. He never changed, got ugly, showed as people like to say "the real MJ". Why? Because he had been the "real MJ" all along. There was nothing phony or fake or pretentious about him. Your eyes did not deceive you. What you saw was who he was and is. An angel. Yes indeed.

Michael Jackson was chosen and ordained to do what he did. There is no other explanation for the greatness, the magnitude of his gifts. He reached the PLANET with words, music, dance and joyful giving. He is humble. He is gracious. He is a believer. He is obedient. MICHAEL JACKSON has always known that he would do great things. He never questioned it. He simply knew it and did it. And in doing so, he gained so much wealth, so many accolades, so many followers, yet, it never changed his heart. In the Bible it states that "a child will lead them". I believe in the Bible and I believe that angels do walk the earth and take abode among us. There are so many similarities in his walk on earth as was Jesus. Only the times are different. The message and the outcome is the same. Look at Michael's eyes. Look at the eyes if Jesus Christ. From pictures we've seen, they have the same depth, the same knowledge, the same beauty. The eyes never lie. Now the onslaught. Be it as it may. I believe that he was our earth angel. He was born to suffer and save the world. He did both, with passion and compassion. Nothing will sway me from that opinion.

Look at some of the things Michael did, out of pure innocence and was persecuted for them. He saw NOTHING wrong or evil in his doings. It was the people who judged him. But mark my word, by the time all is said and done, Michael will have brought down the masses. They are lining up to fall as we speak. It might take this trial thing to get the ball rolling. But once it starts, it's gonna be something to foresee. Change is imminent. Even his Judas had to confess his lies. Before long, there will be other confessions. It will be impossible to stop the world from healing. The truth will indeed set you free. Michael will rise to the high esteem that he held for himself again. All the bull, the lies, the scandals will be dispelled once and for all. And Michael will rise like the Phoenix that he is. I don't know if he is ArchAngel Michael, but he is Michael and he is an angel. At least in my eyes and I feel it in my heart. I always have. I always will.

In the Bible, the Archangel Michael and Jesus are the same person. The Biblical Michael is a pre-incarnate form before the New Testament, before he was born to Mary. The Jehovah's Witnesses clearly teach that, although other Christians may not. There are in-depth Bible studies on that topic on the net.

I firmly believe that the Israelites of the Bible were black-skinned as was Jesus, some of the descendants being African-Americans who are born from the slave trade. For at least a thousand years now, the church has portrayed Bible characters as white-skinned. Some Evangelicals are bold enough lately to portray Jesus in movies as perhaps brown-skinned, but still clearly white race. Most very fundamentalist Christians are horrified to ever think Jesus could be black. Is there racism involved? I totally believe so. Just study the slave-trade history and read how some Christians justified it, using Scriptures. This Michael Archangel website, appears to me to be white exclusively, Nordic blonds, the purist. Does that negate their message? Well it might be part of why they utterly reject their Michael having any possible relationship to our Michael who is African American, although they're being nice about it. MJ may well have spiritual knowledge that is also mentioned on that site.
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