Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: the arabian nights on May 01, 2010, 02:33:06 AM
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Just checking - who were the folks on mikes hates or most wanted list?
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Late singer Michael Jackson maintained a secret list of enemies, which only his closest associates were aware of. The King of Pop's former manager Dieter Wiesner has revealed that Jackson had a secret hit list of the people who he wanted to be kept away from him at all times. The list included ex-friends Uri Geller and Rabbi Schmuley Boteach, Santa Barbara, California, District Attorney Tom Sneddon, who tried to put Jackson behind bars on child molestation charges and lawyer Glora Allred. Wiesner admitted he transcribed the list as his client reeled off names. "Sometimes he was a little bit paranoid... I'd ask him, 'Michael, what are you doing...?' He said... 'These people are after me and they want to destroy my life,'"
The list of enemies also included music mogul Tommy Mottola and Janet Arviso, who accused Jackson of molesting her son at his Neverland Ranch home.
RELATES RESOURCES ABOUT MJ'S ENEMIES :
Uri Geller
Rabbi Schumley Boteach.
•Michael Jackson attends launch of book by Uri Geller and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. Link of this post .
•Michael Jackson and Rabbi Schmuley Boteach ( MJ from an interview with / and Rabbi Shmuley’s statement on the passing of Michael Jackson). reading this post
•Rabbi S.B intelligent page site ( his own titled ).Knowing how ? Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is host of the award-winning national TV show, Shalom in the Home on TLC. He is also the international best-selling author of 20 books, including his most ...
Tom Sneddon.
•Jackson's Attorney Vows to Fight Charges.Summary from multiple countries, from articles in English reading full
•Sneddon's obsession with...reading full
Gloria Allred attorney.
•website.
•about .
•CNN's topics .
•G.A Video and statement. (clipped from her site ).
•Michael Jackson's legal woes likely to live on.CNN quoted:"Michael Jackson was a one-man cottage industry for the legal profession".Reading full
Tommy Mottola.
Thomas Daniel " Tommy" Mottola is an American music executive, co-owner of Casablanca Records in a joint venture with the Universal Music Group ,he was the president of Sony Music Entertainment.. He is the former husband of singer Mariah Carey.
•Michael Jackson Shocks Al Sharpton By Calling Tommy Mottola A Racist
•Singer accuses Sony Music chairman of conspiring against black artists.full post
JANET ARVIS ( Family Arvizo )
Janet Arvizo approached Larry Feldman, the attorney who represented Jordie Chandler (first accuser) in 1993. This made some believe she was intent on getting money because she went to an attorney before the police – it was also the same attorney who helped get an out-of-court settlement for Jordie Chandler for a reported $20 million.
•Janet Arvizo The Mom of Jackson's 2nd Accuser Says I'm Only a Small Fraud! Bullsh*t Janet Arvizo Is A LIAR, A CHEAT And A THIEF! full post.
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18 September 2009 08:16
Michael Jackson - Jackson Drew Up An Enemies List
Jackson Drew Up An Enemies List
MICHAEL JACKSON had a secret hitlist of 'enemies' he wanted his closest associates to be aware of.
The King of Pop's former manager Dieter Wiesner has revealed the late star wanted certain ex-friends - like spoon-bender Uri Geller and Rabbi Schmuley Boteach, Santa Barbara, California, District Attorney Tom Sneddon, who tried to put Jackson behind bars on child molestation charges, and lawyer Glora Allred kept away from him at all times.
The German svengali admits he transcribed the list as his client reeled off names.
He says, "Sometimes he was a little bit paranoid... I'd ask him, 'Michael, what are you doing...?' He said... 'These people are after me and they want to destroy my life.'"
The enemies list also included music mogul Tommy Mottola and Janet Arviso, who accused Jackson of molesting her son at his Neverland Ranch home
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Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:
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[youtube:34ot3n3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqEDndVGazM[/youtube:34ot3n3c]
thought the family do was 3 weeks before not a1 1/2 half weeks
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Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:
not sure i remember and i could be wrong that there was a piece of paper with the list on it
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I understand that a list exists. I am just seeking clarification of whether MJ planned to get revenge on certain people or if he merely wanted them kept out of his way. When I think of a "hit list", I think about revenge.
Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:
not sure i remember and i could be wrong that there was a piece of paper with the list on it
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I don't think Michael want a revenge ..i don't know but maybe he just want to move away from these kind of people ..it's true they can destroy his life..if it's not already the case !
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i think revenge is an unhelpful emotion - it is a distraction and is unproductive
i dont think mike was a revengeful person
i think the list is an avoidance list - just written down
good for him
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the trick i think and i am trying to work this out for myself is how to spot these pp and avoid them before they do damage
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[youtube:2jmq52g8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MKVv18IPw4[/youtube:2jmq52g8]
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Exactly! MJ can avoid all he wants. However, if someone wants to he or she can proceed to do his/her dirty deeds through others. People such as Tommy Motolla cannot simply be ignored or avoided. That is especially true if MJ felt that Tommy was out to ruin his life. This is more than just someone saying mean words toward MJ. I believe Tommy , for example, had a hand in the 2003 charges. Maybe I am alone with this opinion but I fight fire with fire. If Tommy was suspected of setting up the 2003 charges, then MJ should investigate if that were true. If so, then Tommy's dirty laundry would be aired to take him down a notch or two.
quote="the arabian nights"]the trick i think and i am trying to work this out for myself is how to spot these pp and avoid them before they do damage[/quote]
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[youtube:t28t89nn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ZXcFGA6J8[/youtube:t28t89nn]
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/hitlist.jpg)
I'm not sure what to think about what Wiesners says though, according to the following:
January 11 2003: Dieter Wiesner & Ronald Konitzer officially take over Michael's management in a written agreement. The first act is to fire MIchael's previous managers Trudy Green & Howard Koffman. They also work on a plan named MJ Universe which Is supposed to relaunch Michael's career.
December 15 2003: Michael cuts every contacts with Dieter Wiesner, Ronald Kontizer & Marc Schaffel.
Why did he sack Wiesner after 11 months already? Did Wiesner have a double agenda..?
In the video Wiesner says that Katherine told him that she didn't one anyone to see that Mike smashed the hotel room of The Mirage after he found our that Neverland was raided, yet Wiesner felt the need to reveal that after all, against Katherine's wishes.
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I believe Tommy , for example, had a hand in the 2003 charges. Maybe I am alone with this opinion but I fight fire with fire. If Tommy was suspected of setting up the 2003 charges, then MJ should investigate if that were true. If so, then Tommy's dirty laundry would be aired to take him down a notch or two.
Hell no, you are not the only one with this opinion! There's the Malnik - Mottola - Ratner connection.
According to Gordon Novel, known for several controversial investigations, allegations connected with intelligence agencies and currently for his commitments to fight the alleged conspiracy of free energy suppression, the friendship between Mike and Al Malnik ended in 2003. The two men had a falling out after Mike began to believe that Malnik, who has known Mafia ties and was once a close associate of Meyer Lansky, was trying to wrangle Mike’s rights to half the Beatles catalog of songs from him, rights that are worth an estimated half billion dollars.
According to Novel, Mike said he was lured to Malnik’s house in Miami Beach by film director Brett Ratner to see a house so beautiful it would make him catatonic. He said that once he was there, however, Malnik, who according to Mike had Mafia ties, wanted to put his fingers in his business. Mike also said he received a call from Tommy Mottola while he was there, which aroused his suspicion.
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thanks for your contribution mo i could not find the written list
have you got the full list
i note that he put his local police force
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I agree that an eye for an eye leaves both parties blind however there are times when fair play is warranted.
Suppose you have a co worker who sabotages your hard work to make you miss important deadlines and look bad in front of the boss. You approach the co worker cordially to discuss this but he pretends to not understand what you are talking about. He continues to try and discredit you with his actions. The boss puts you on probabtion so you are at risk of losing your job. If you can prove that you were sabotaged, report it to the boss with the co worker getting written up and reprimanded then that is not mere revenge. That is fairplay.
MJ may not be revenge-minded but he may believe in fair play.
i think revenge is an unhelpful emotion - it is a distraction and is unproductive
i dont think mike was a revengeful person
i think the list is an avoidance list - just written down
good for him
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Exactly! MJ can avoid all he wants. However, if someone wants to he or she can proceed to do his/her dirty deeds through others. People such as Tommy Motolla cannot simply be ignored or avoided. That is especially true if MJ felt that Tommy was out to ruin his life. This is more than just someone saying mean words toward MJ. I believe Tommy , for example, had a hand in the 2003 charges. Maybe I am alone with this opinion but I fight fire with fire. If Tommy was suspected of setting up the 2003 charges, then MJ should investigate if that were true. If so, then Tommy's dirty laundry would be aired to take him down a notch or two.
quote="the arabian nights"]the trick i think and i am trying to work this out for myself is how to spot these pp and avoid them before they do damage
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I totally agree with u!! Let's don't forget that Michael owned ''THE BEETLES'' music catalog.... And just that is a very good reason for people to want to eliminate him....I don't think that Michael would sometimes become paranoid over the people he wanted out of his life or what he was saying was too far fetched...! Sometimes people tell as things that might sound exaggerated and we might believe that this person is paranoid.And that's what I believe that happened in Michael's case....
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yes there is fair play and i think that is right
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Hello,
i don't understand it all, so i can't say much about that all, but often was said that Michael hates Tommy Mottola.
He was a manager from Sony, i think untill 2003 ? What is he doing now ?
I was so speechless that Tommy Mottola was one of the persons that give a telephone interview when the helicopter flight was shown live in the TV :
Here at 0:26 you can see...: Tommy Mottola on the phone !
If i where in trouble with someone, i don't say a single word...especially official....weird !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7O ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7OEPo&feature=related)
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Very interesting thread.
Don´t know if it is going to be usefull for something, in some moment, but lest´s remember on this thread that Janet Arvizo´s actual marriaged name is Janet Jackson (if I´m not wrong).
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I understand that a list exists. I am just seeking clarification of whether MJ planned to get revenge on certain people or if he merely wanted them kept out of his way. When I think of a "hit list", I think about revenge.
Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:
not sure i remember and i could be wrong that there was a piece of paper with the list on it
I don't think Michael is a vendictful person. He will not revenge on these people. I think more avoidance. Especially he is a humanitarian, and has a good soul he will never do anything of that sort.
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Even if he takes revenge, I wouldn't blame him. I totally agree with the saying "What goes around comes around" but in certain cases I can fully understand that it is very tempting to speed up that process a little bit.
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I always imagined Bashit would be on his list ..He did almost the same as these guys did ..What gives?? Or maybe MJ forgave him after he defended him at the trial ??
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what bashir defend mike at trial
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I always imagined Bashit would be on his list ..He did almost the same as these guys did ..What gives?? Or maybe MJ forgave him after he defended him at the trial ??
Batshit did not defend Mike.
Here's the transcript of Batshit's testimony: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/030105.txt (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/030105.txt)
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I always imagined Bashit would be on his list ..He did almost the same as these guys did ..What gives?? Or maybe MJ forgave him after he defended him at the trial ??
Batshit did not defend Mike.
Here's the transcript of Batshit's testimony: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/030105.txt (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/030105.txt)
Exactly. Batshit is bastard. He refused to speak on the trial. He was such a fraud. He is so on the evil team. I can't stand that rat.
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http://www.michaeljackson.com/th/node/481368 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/th/node/481368)
angel_watcher:
Re: MJ had an enemy list?
One more thing about this enemy list. It was not a hit list. I think it was prudent of Michael to know just who did not have his best interests at heart. In my opinion, the list was too short, judging from the pseudo friends and enemies have been speaking to the media and what they have said since his death.
It looks like there was some confusion on the thread as to who exactly was on the list. Here they are, in no particular order:
1. Martin Bashir
2. Rabbi Schmuley
3. Uri Geller (introduced Michael to Rabbi Schmuley)
4. Diane Diamond
5. Gloria Allred (remember the "baby dangling"call for investigation by Childrens' Services)
6. Tommy Mottola
7. Janet Arviso
8. Tom Sneddon
9. Steven Spielberg
Michael was not crazy as the media would lead us to believe. Except for Steven Spielberg, the presence of all these people on a "enemy" list should be abundantly clear. (Could it really have been due to Spielberg's failure to cast Michael as Peter Pan in "Hook"? Michael was lucky not to have been attached to that 1991 bomb.)
I would say that this is truly a list of people who did not have the bests interests of Michael Jackson at heart and were enemies to his good name.
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/09/78547/index.html (http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/09/78547/index.html)
Tonight, ET has never-before-seen video of Michael Jackson under oath, a side of the late King of Pop rarely seen -- and his former manager Dieter Weisner breaks his silence about it!
"He was on one side a big beautiful artist," Weisner tells ET's Mark Steines, "and he was such a lonely man -- that was the problem."
Being questioned in a multi-million-dollar lawsuit for breach of contract by a former business associate, Michael appears at times jittery and nervous, sometimes laughing, claiming at one point that he did not testify in a previous case because he was suffering from a spider bite.
At the time of the alleged bite, Weisner was Michael's manager, a job he took in 1996 that he held for some seven years. Now, he breaks his silence about Michael's claim.
"He talked about a spider bite, and it was not a spider bite," says Weisner. "He got an injection from one of the doctors, and I think the needle broke. … I don't know what it is, but it was one of these doctors I didn't like."
Was the alleged injection and resulting horrible bruise from one of Michael's so-called "Dr. Feelgoods"? Weisner says he believes so, and that the doctor may have suggested calling it a "spider bite."
"I once I had a fight with him," says Weisner of Michael. "I told him, 'You know what, I'm not happy with this.'"
Weisner says he thinks the 2003 raid on Neverland and the child molestation case left Michael a broken man, and now he believes that's when the drug problem escalated.
"When he was in such a pressure and he couldn't handle something, he took the stuff," says Weisner. "When Michael had something he could work on and there was something he could do, he didn't need it."
Wednesday night on ET, we have the reported Michael Jackson "Hit List," from Tommy Mottola to Diane Dimond -- and a famous director?
Posted September 16, 2009 3:30:00 AM
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I always thought Wiesner was on the list too.
On another note: Does anyone else think it's strange that the family claims they couldn't get to Michael, that they were locked out, kept away, etc., yet Michael goes to the party they threw for the parents and was having a good ole' time? According to Jermaine and Janet, Michael was perfectly normal at that party, laughing and having fun.
I find that odd. If I really wanted to keep my family members at arm's length, I would not attend a family gathering.
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the 3 body guards mention they pulled a gun on randy
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http://www.michaeljackson.com/th/node/481368
angel_watcher:
Re: MJ had an enemy list?
One more thing about this enemy list. It was not a hit list. I think it was prudent of Michael to know just who did not have his best interests at heart. In my opinion, the list was too short, judging from the pseudo friends and enemies have been speaking to the media and what they have said since his death.
It looks like there was some confusion on the thread as to who exactly was on the list. Here they are, in no particular order:
1. Martin Bashir
2. Rabbi Schmuley
3. Uri Geller (introduced Michael to Rabbi Schmuley)
4. Diane Diamond
5. Gloria Allred (remember the "baby dangling"call for investigation by Childrens' Services)
6. Tommy Mottola
7. Janet Arviso
8. Tom Sneddon
9. Steven Spielberg
Michael was not crazy as the media would lead us to believe. Except for Steven Spielberg, the presence of all these people on a "enemy" list should be abundantly clear. (Could it really have been due to Spielberg's failure to cast Michael as Peter Pan in "Hook"? Michael was lucky not to have been attached to that 1991 bomb.)
I would say that this is truly a list of people who did not have the bests interests of Michael Jackson at heart and were enemies to his good name.
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/09/78547/index.html (http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/09/78547/index.html)
Tonight, ET has never-before-seen video of Michael Jackson under oath, a side of the late King of Pop rarely seen -- and his former manager Dieter Weisner breaks his silence about it!
"He was on one side a big beautiful artist," Weisner tells ET's Mark Steines, "and he was such a lonely man -- that was the problem."
Being questioned in a multi-million-dollar lawsuit for breach of contract by a former business associate, Michael appears at times jittery and nervous, sometimes laughing, claiming at one point that he did not testify in a previous case because he was suffering from a spider bite.
At the time of the alleged bite, Weisner was Michael's manager, a job he took in 1996 that he held for some seven years. Now, he breaks his silence about Michael's claim.
"He talked about a spider bite, and it was not a spider bite," says Weisner. "He got an injection from one of the doctors, and I think the needle broke. … I don't know what it is, but it was one of these doctors I didn't like."
Was the alleged injection and resulting horrible bruise from one of Michael's so-called "Dr. Feelgoods"? Weisner says he believes so, and that the doctor may have suggested calling it a "spider bite."
"I once I had a fight with him," says Weisner of Michael. "I told him, 'You know what, I'm not happy with this.'"
Weisner says he thinks the 2003 raid on Neverland and the child molestation case left Michael a broken man, and now he believes that's when the drug problem escalated.
"When he was in such a pressure and he couldn't handle something, he took the stuff," says Weisner. "When Michael had something he could work on and there was something he could do, he didn't need it."
Wednesday night on ET, we have the reported Michael Jackson "Hit List," from Tommy Mottola to Diane Dimond -- and a famous director?
Posted September 16, 2009 3:30:00 AM
See All: dieter weisner celebs michael jackson
I remember Jermaine saying that "Dream Works" was Michael's brain child, and that Spielberg stole it from him. Maybe that's why he is on the list.
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http://west-words.com/jermaine-jackson- ... her-001995 (http://west-words.com/jermaine-jackson-set-dish-dirt-his-tragic-brother-001995)
JERMAINE JACKSON SET TO DISH THE DIRT ON HIS TRAGIC BROTHER
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By Ian Markham-Smith - Posted on 13 August 2009
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diggMichael Jackson's older brother appears set to cash in on his tragic death by writing a book about the star's bizarre life.
Bitter Jermaine Jackson is said to be ready to go public with the sensational book that will portray his dead brother as a deceitful gay anti-Semite.
The Thriller singer became a Jew hater because he believed that movie mogul Steven Spielberg and his film making partners ripped Jackson off over their DreamWorks pictures studio, 54-year-old Jermaine claims.
And Jackson married former doctor's assistant Debbie Rowe, who is the mother of two of his children, because he was involved in business deals with members of the Muslin faith.
Jermaine also alleged that his brother, who would have turned 51 on August 29, paid Rowe to have his children. He was a drug user, who drank alcohol and kept women at bay, and did indeed deliberately change the colour of his skin to become white.
Details of Jermaine's astonishing plan to reveal all about the seedy side of Jackson's secret life have been uncovered by top Hollywood showbusiness comentator Roger Friedman, who has been involved with the Jackson family for many years.
Friedman first discovered three years ago the existence of a document that Jermaine has put together with Stacy Brown, a family friend and co-author of an amazing memoir with Michael Jackson’s late, long-time PR man, Bob Jones, detailing what would-be in a proposed book.
Jermaine has often denied the existence of such a proposal but he once talked about it with late night TV chat show host Larry King on television.
Furthermore, New York literary agent Laurie Liss sent the proposal around to three publishers but no one was interested at the time – possibly because of the explosive content.
But, Friedman said: “Maybe they’ll be more interested now that Michael is gone.”
What is amazing is that Jermaine was planning to stab his brother in the back even though Jackson was alive at the time.
Friedman continued his investigation and he finally obtained a copy of the document that Jermaine had put together in 2003.
In it, Jermaine said: “My brother is a superstar, yes. My brother is wealthy. He owns shares in Sony music. He drinks, he does drugs, he lies, he cheats, he changed his skin colour and mostly, he’s human. He attracts gay men and wards off women like the plague.
“He married a woman because she was pregnant and he was doing business with Muslims (which I am a Muslim) and Muslims won’t do business with someone who is engaged in having children without being married.
“He paid this woman, who nobody would ever look twice at, several million dollars. My brother purchased children. It is like a sanctioned black market. He is very powerful. He picked the sperm donor by using information provided by a sperm bank. Now, who can do that? Michael Jackson, that’s who, my brother.”
Jermaine has for many years lived in the Jackson family compound in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles.
His document went on: “I have maintained my residence by my mother’s side at the family’s Hayvenhurst estate in Encino, California because I know how much I am needed there. Michael counts on me to be there as does the rest of my family.”
Friedman maintains that this verifies the long-held belief that the Jackson 5's parents, Katherine and Joseph, who have filed for divorce in the past, do not live together.
“Joseph’s fathering of an illegitimate child, reported and documented in several places, could have contributed to this,” Friedman said.
Jermaine went on: “It was my little brother, he conceived the whole idea behind DreamWorks. The logo is still proudly the official logo of Neverland.
“Unfortunately, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen all stole the idea from him. That’s one reason why Michael hates Jewish people so much. But he plays the game with them.
“There is a game that all in Hollywood play. But the Jews are the powerful ones and they have done a lot to put my brother in his place - just another nigger.”
Referring to American promoter Don King, Jermaine added: “That’s what Don King told Michael at the start of the Victory tour. 'No matter what Michael, you’re just another nigger.'
“My brother doesn’t always learn the valuable lessons life teaches.
“He is stubborn, hard-headed and, at times, harsh. He is cold, calculating and devious. The blood of his father runs freely through him. We were all afraid that the blood of Joseph Jackson would eventually contaminate all of us.”
Nevertheless, Jermaine was protective of his brother who was facing serious child sex abuse allegations around the time that he was touting the book.
He said: “But this is still my family and I love every one of them and I won’t sit by and let my brother go to prison. Prison would kill him. I’ve thought about doing the time for him, if he’s convicted. Michael wouldn’t survive in prison for one day. He’d commit suicide.”
Jermaine also made some very serious allegations about the Jackson 5's father who also had three daughters with his wife.
“Joseph did some disgusting things to LaToya and Rebbie, especially,” Jermaine claimed. “If it weren’t for Mother’s loyalty to him, he’d probably be in prison for what he did to our sisters.”
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my god
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http://prince.org/msg/8/316463 (http://prince.org/msg/8/316463)
Whatever happened to Jermaine Jackson's Book Proposal?
Hollywood Reporter
Three years ago I wrote in my old column about a stunning document that Jermaine had put together with Stacy Brown, a family friend and co-author of an amazing memoir with Michael Jackson’s late, longtime PR man, Bob Jones.
Jermaine often protested that such a proposal existed, but he talked about it with Larry King on TV. New York literary agent Laurie Liss sent the proposal around to three publishers, but no one bit. Maybe they’ll be more interested now that Michael is gone.
I was so interested in Jermaine’s 2003 proposal that I called around to find the actual document. Sure enough, there still were copies to be found.
Here are excerpts from it, in Jermaine’s own voice, circa early 2003:
“My brother is a superstar, yes. My brother is wealthy. He owns shares in Sony music. He drinks, he does drugs, he lies, he cheats, he changed his skin color and mostly, he’s human. He attracts gay men and wards off women like the plague.”
“He married a woman because she was pregnant and he was doing business with Muslims (which I am a Muslim) and Muslims won’t do business with someone who is engaged in having children without being married.
“He paid this woman, who nobody would ever look twice at, several million dollars. My brother purchased children. It is like a sanctioned black market. He is very powerful; he picked the sperm donor by using information provided by a sperm bank. Now, who can do that? Michael Jackson, that’s who, my brother.
“I have maintained my residence by my mother’s side at the family’s Hayvenhurst estate in Encino, California because I know how much I am needed there. Michael counts on me to be there as does the rest of my family.”
[Columnist note: this would verify the long-held belief that Katherine and Joseph Jackson, who have filed for divorce in the past, do not live together. Joseph’s fathering of an illegitimate child, reported and documented in several places, could have contributed to this.]
“It was my little brother, he conceived the whole idea behind DreamWorks. The logo is still proudly the official logo of Neverland. Unfortunately, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen all stole the idea from him. That’s one reason why Michael hates Jewish people so much. But he plays the game with them. There is a game that all in Hollywood play. But the Jews are the powerful ones and they have done a lot to put my brother in his place….just another nigger. That’s what Don King told Michael at the start of the “Victory” tour. No matter what Michael, you’re just another nigger.
“My brother doesn’t always learn the valuable lessons life teaches. He is stubborn, hard-headed and, at times, harsh. He is cold, calculating and devious. The blood of his father runs freely through him. We were all afraid that the blood of Joseph Jackson would eventually contaminate all of us.
“But this is still my family and I love every one of them and I won’t sit by and let my brother go to prison. Prison would kill him. I’ve thought about doing the time for him, if he’s convicted. Michael wouldn’t survive in prison for one day. He’d commit suicide.“Joseph did some disgusting things to LaToya and Rebbie, especially. If it weren’t for Mother’s loyalty to him, he’d probably be in prison for what he did to our sisters.”
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stuff about jj being a liar
http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/gossip ... -king.html (http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/gossip-archive/13233-jermaine-jackson-lies-larry-king.html)
Did Jermaine Jackson Lie to Larry King?
This story should be called Jermaine Jackson lies to Larry King, and Larry King likes it.
Michael Jackson’s older brother appeared on Larry King Live on CNN last night and simply lied to the talk show host about his book proposal.
It was amusing to see, because Jermaine has used King in the past to promote whatever ridiculous thing is passing through his febrile mind. Previous go-rounds have included Jermaine promoting non-existent charities.
Twice in 2003 and at least once in 2001, Jermaine told King he was behind something called EarthVision International. The organization does not exist, except maybe in Jermaine’s imagination.
King has never questioned him about it on Jermaine’s numerous appearances. There is an Earth Care International in Arizona, but they claim no knowledge of Jermaine Jackson.
Back on Sept. 8, 1997, Jermaine told Larry that the Jackson 5 was getting back together for a benefit extravaganza called Earthvision '98. He said the 90-minute program would benefit a group he named as the Sunshine Foundation of Feasterville, Pa.
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Jackson announced that the small group that grants wishes for ill children would get money by honoring “Muhammad Ali, Sophia Loren, Stevie Wonder and Bishop Desmond Tutu for their humanitarian achievements.”
Jermaine said Earthvision '98 would be broadcast live July 2, 1998, from the Heridon Theater in Athens, Greece.
The whole thing never materialized. Jermaine lives at home with his mother despite being the father — as he says — of about 10 children.
You get the idea.
Last night, Jermaine said Michelle Caruso’s report about his book proposal, revealed in the New York Daily News on Sunday, was untrue. He said he thought he might file a lawsuit. He said the book proposal Caruso cited, written by Stacy Brown, was a fake, and that, he, Jermaine had the real one.
Of course, he didn’t bother to show Larry the “real” book proposal, and Larry didn’t ask him for it either.
Larry did ask him how Michael was, and where Michael was. Jermaine lied, and said Michael was in Bahrain (he’s in London).
Since Jermaine holds himself out as one of Michael’s spokesmen, Larry did not bother to ask him how his brother’s employees were supposed to function without paychecks or health insurance, how the family would pay off a $2.2 million mortgage on their home in Encino or what Michael would do now that his own note holder could foreclose at any moment on $270 million worth of loans.
I was so interested in Jermaine Jackson’s 2003 proposal for a book about his brother Michael that I called around to find the actual document. Jermaine had shopped it around to several book publishers and sure enough, there still were copies to be found.
Here are excerpts from it, in Jermaine’s own voice. I have no idea where he is right now, but my guess is that if Michael has found out about this, Jermaine is on his way to a place much farther away than Bahrain:
“My brother is a superstar, yes. My brother is wealthy. He owns shares in Sony music. He drinks, he does drugs, he lies, he cheats, he changed his skin color and mostly, he’s human. He attracts gay men and wards off women like the plague.”
“He married a woman because she was pregnant and he was doing business with Muslims (which I am a Muslim) and Muslims won’t do business with someone who is engaged in having children without being married.
"He paid this woman, who nobody would ever look twice at, several million dollars. My brother purchased children. It is like a sanctioned black market. He is very powerful; he picked the sperm donor by using information provided by a sperm bank. Now, who can do that? Michael Jackson, that’s who, my brother.
“I have maintained my residence by my mother's side at the family's Hayvenhurst estate in Encino, California because I know how much I am needed there. Michael counts on me to be there as does the rest of my family.”
[Columnist note: this would verify the long-held belief that Katherine and Joseph Jackson, who have filed for divorce in the past, do not live together. Joseph’s fathering of an illegitimate child, reported and documented in several places, could have contributed to this.]
“It was my little brother, he conceived the whole idea behind DreamWorks. The logo is still proudly the official logo of Neverland. Unfortunately, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen all stole the idea from him. That’s one reason why Michael hates Jewish people so much. But he plays the game with them. There is a game that all in Hollywood play. But the Jews are the powerful ones and they have done a lot to put my brother in his place….just another nigger. That’s what Don King told Michael at the start of the "Victory" tour. No matter what Michael, you’re just another nigger.
“My brother doesn’t always learn the valuable lessons life teaches. He is stubborn, hard-headed and, at times, harsh. He is cold, calculating and devious. The blood of his father runs freely through him. We were all afraid that the blood of Joseph Jackson would eventually contaminate all of us.
“But this is still my family and I love every one of them and I won’t sit by and let my brother go to prison. Prison would kill him. I’ve thought about doing the time for him, if he’s convicted. Michael wouldn’t survive in prison for one day. He’d commit suicide.
“Joseph did some disgusting things to Latoya and Rebbie, especially. If it weren’t for Mother’s loyalty to him, he’d probably be in prison for what he did to our sisters.”
foxnews.com
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Exasperating!
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Please tell me this so called "Jermaine's book" is not true.... :|
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yes he wanted to do it - but it did not go ahead, lots on the net about it
very upsetting
at the time of the investigation and start of the mess
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Has anything that Jermaine ever dreamed up materialized? I can't believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
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and from the way Jermaine talks about him,MJ had good reason to lock his family out...if he even did that
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The point Jermaine is making that a lot of people refuse to see Michael as a normal human being, with flaws and everything. Also good to see that Uri Gellar is on the list , so maybe some people finally will believe he s no good, now they've seen the evidence written by Michael ....
Good post
p.s. @ the bashir comment Learn to read
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Oh God!I am so upset...Is this really true about the Jermaine book???...I had a terrible sleep last night after watching the Aphrodite Jones (True crime)I cryed like hell...now this :shock: I can't stand this anymore...I am full of anger...this ain't good...damn I'm a mess :cry:
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The point Jermaine is making that a lot of people refuse to see Michael as a normal human being, with flaws and everything. Also good to see that Uri Gellar is on the list , so maybe some people finally will believe he s no good, now they've seen the evidence written by Michael ....
Good post
p.s. @ the bashir comment Learn to read
well , since I am the first one who commented on Bashir ,your referring to me then --> I know how to read ,thank you
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it could be me - :lol:
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To ALL Michael's haters:
KISS ONE OF HIS ZOO ANIMALS ASS!
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Oh, this is horrible stuff here! Jermaine wrote such a book... how horrendous! Which he is making a big contradictory statement that he would go to jail for his brother and he felt so bad for him.... so then why did he write a book like that ... which would totally ruin his brother. Please! Jermaine just needs to stop and get his own life... something he should have done many years ago. God! I just don't know what to think of this guy anymore. And his Tributes are 100% bogus... just like him. Sorry, but that's how I feel! I found it hard to watch him on that Dynasty show. OK, I'm done! :roll:
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Please tell me this so called "Jermaine's book" is not true.... :|
It so cannot be true. I dont believe 1 word of it. Bunch of CRAPOLLA!
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Oh, this is horrible stuff here! Jermaine wrote such a book... how horrendous! Which he is making a big contradictory statement that he would go to jail for his brother and he felt so bad for him.... so then why did he write a book like that ... which would totally ruin his brother. Please! Jermaine just needs to stop and get his own life... something he should have done many years ago. God! I just don't know what to think of this guy anymore. And his Tributes are 100% bogus... just like him. Sorry, but that's how I feel! I found it hard to watch him on that Dynasty show. OK, I'm done! :roll:
i could not believe when another poster mentioned the book - what a thing, i agree with you that they should make their own lives
and ensure that their children do to so they will not be a burden on mikes children
they should go to school and ensure they have a future for themselves or make a postive contribution to family business
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The point Jermaine is making that a lot of people refuse to see Michael as a normal human being, with flaws and everything. Also good to see that Uri Gellar is on the list , so maybe some people finally will believe he s no good, now they've seen the evidence written by Michael ....
Good post
p.s. @ the bashir comment Learn to read
well , since I am the first one who commented on Bashir ,your referring to me then --> I know how to read ,thank you
No you don't, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this:
I always imagined Bashit would be on his list ..He did almost the same as these guys did ..What gives?? Or maybe MJ forgave him after he defended him at the trial ??
To which I replied:
Batshit did not defend Mike.
Here's the transcript of Batshit's testimony: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/030105.txt (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/030105.txt)
I hope you did read the transcript I linked you to, and found out what really happened with Batshit in that courtroom.
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Yeah , I read the transcript and thanks by the way ..But I've also read and heard people saying the MB said that " he didn't witnessed anything inappropriate at Neverland " .. That's what I meant with my post ..
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Please tell me this so called "Jermaine's book" is not true.... :|
It sounds like the usual tabloid BS stories to me. I bet Jermaine won't pull off a stunt like 'The words to the Bad' anymore. Don't forget that they're brothers and that blood is thicker than water. ;)