Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: keyboardwizz on April 28, 2010, 05:02:04 PM
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
hahah i don't know but i love the name. we first had "this is it" then "this is not it" and "this is also it"* and now "this is almost it"
i wonder when michael finally comes back if someone will start a blog or twitter with "this is it right now"
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Do you suppose its just another crazy fan posting that tweet?
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
hahah i don't know but i love the name. we first had "this is it" then "this is not it" now "this is almost it"
i wonder when michael finally comes back if someone will start a blog or twitter with "this is it right now"
Hahahah "This is it right now" :P
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
hahah i don't know but i love the name. we first had "this is it" then "this is not it" now "this is almost it"
i wonder when michael finally comes back if someone will start a blog or twitter with "this is it right now"
And don't forget "This Is Also It" :)
Edit: by the way, anyone notice who that twitter account is following? Everyone that is close to Michael plus Ashton Kutcher? Also, Harvey Levin is the first on the list - not sure if that means anything as I'm not real familiar with how Twitter works.
Edit again: This is the name at the top of the page. I know anyone can put this but...
* Name Michael Jackson
* Location Neverland
* Web http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/home (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/home)
* Bio You 're gonna meet the man you never knew
30 Following 10 Followers 0 Listed
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
hahah i don't know but i love the name. we first had "this is it" then "this is not it" now "this is almost it"
i wonder when michael finally comes back if someone will start a blog or twitter with "this is it right now"
And don't forget "This Is Also It" :)
hahah ahhh! how could i forget?!
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Is there any "could this be it now please ?" account ?
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Is there any "could this be it now please ?" account ?
someone should make one and follow every single account we think could be michael/have ties to michael and then just "@" everybody whenever a tweet is made so it shows up on their page (i think that's how it works?). oh, we're taking over!
also, interesting background choice. from the music video "leave me alone" and how that video dealt with the tabloid trash and symbolism. whether it's michael, a believer or someone poking fun at us: well done on the background!
#thisisitrightnow
i just started a trend on the forum. :P
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Lolz! Now isn't that something! I just woke up from a nap and now there is a "This is ALMOST it". I wonder if this account is correlated to This is Also it or not? :lol: :D
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It's probably just another believer..
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ehm whats wrong with elisabeth?
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that painting the person is using as profile pic is cute! never seen that anywhere before.
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egnahc a ekam neht dna flesruoy ta kool a ekaT
less than a minute ago via web
it's "Take a look at yourself and then make a change" spelled backwards...i think it's just a believer also
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ehm whats wrong with elisabeth?
wasnt she having surgery or something ??? maybe on her heart ?
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Interesting using that background IMO also. The image used for the ambulance photo maybe?
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1. this is it
2.this is not it
3.this is also it
4.this maybe it
5.is this it
6.this is it but its not it
7.this is probably it
8.this could be it.
9.we thought it was it
10.it is it i think
i am just having a bit of fun here guys.......lol...xxxx
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Exodus 32- the children of Israel got impatient waiting for Moses to come down from the mountain
It's the real thing- Coca-Cola slogan.
:D :D :D :D :D :mrgreen:
Edit: now up to 78 followers. :D
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11. This is just it
12. This couldn't be it
13. This is very much it
14. This is so it
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Never become a lemming!
From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game))
Lemmings is a puzzle computer game developed by DMA Design (now Rockstar North) and published by Psygnosis in 1991. Originally developed for the Commodore Amiga, Lemmings was one of the most popular computer games of its time, and several games magazines praised the game, giving it some of their highest review scores at the time. The popularity of the game led to development of numerous ports to other systems, including most recently ports to the PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 2, and PlayStation 3 in 2006 and 2007, and the creation of several sequels.
The behavior of the creatures in Lemmings is based on the supposed behavior of real lemmings, who by urban legend are believed to go on migrations en masse that eventually lead to disaster. The basic objective of the game is to guide lemmings to a designated exit through a number of obstacles that prevent the player from winning. In order to save the required number of lemmings to win, one must determine how to assign a limited number of eight different skills to specific lemmings that allow the selected lemming to alter the landscape, to affect the behavior of other lemmings, or to clear obstacles in order to create a safe passage for the rest of the lemmings.
And the best one so far:
Jason P was not my lover :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Up to 84 followers. :D
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Never become a lemming!
From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game))
Lemmings is a puzzle computer game developed by DMA Design (now Rockstar North) and published by Psygnosis in 1991. Originally developed for the Commodore Amiga, Lemmings was one of the most popular computer games of its time, and several games magazines praised the game, giving it some of their highest review scores at the time. The popularity of the game led to development of numerous ports to other systems, including most recently ports to the PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 2, and PlayStation 3 in 2006 and 2007, and the creation of several sequels.
The behavior of the creatures in Lemmings is based on the supposed behavior of real lemmings, who by urban legend are believed to go on migrations en masse that eventually lead to disaster. The basic objective of the game is to guide lemmings to a designated exit through a number of obstacles that prevent the player from winning. In order to save the required number of lemmings to win, one must determine how to assign a limited number of eight different skills to specific lemmings that allow the selected lemming to alter the landscape, to affect the behavior of other lemmings, or to clear obstacles in order to create a safe passage for the rest of the lemmings.
And the best one so far:
Jason P was not my lover :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Up to 84 followers. :D
jason p?????
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jason p?????
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thank you.
in response to this guy's claims: dude, no.
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jason p?????
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mjfansince4 wrote: thank you.
in response to this guy's claims: dude, no.[/quote]
^ I so agree. Absolutely not.
You're most welcome. ;)
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Funny how it's come to the point where Michael could tweet in his name and noone will believe it's him, walk anywhere and its just a double. I can just imagine he's "having a lot of fun!"
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Funny how it's come to the point where Michael could tweet in his name and noone will believe it's him, walk anywhere and its just a double. I can just imagine he's "having a lot of fun!"
he's definitely behind the curtain now! :P
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Geeeezzz these tweets are pretty pathetic.... :lol:
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Lak 'ech Ala k'in
http://spiritlibrary.com/center-of-the- ... -the-heart (http://spiritlibrary.com/center-of-the-sun/in-lakech-ala-kin-the-living-code-of-the-heart)
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Wow, so far too good to be true, everything fits: the one he following, the location, the bio, the tweets... So we have to wait till 4th July?
Hoping, deep-deep hoping This is it :P
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
hahah i don't know but i love the name. we first had "this is it" then "this is not it" and "this is also it"* and now "this is almost it"
i wonder when michael finally comes back if someone will start a blog or twitter with "this is it right now"
It's catchy i tell you!
Hey totally off topic but mjgirl86 --- I LOVE your pics!!!!
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# 1984 about 2 hours ago via web
So, what does he mean by 1984. What's the significance of that year?
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# 1984 about 2 hours ago via web
So, what does he mean by 1984. What's the significance of that year?
I'm pretty sure it's this:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four)
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Just be it, be it, be it, be it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
Just be it !
I'm out !
Sorry... :lol:
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The curtain raises just a little bit ?!
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11. This is just it
12. This couldn't be it
13. This is very much it
14. This is so it
15. This AIN'T it? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously, though, whomever posting those tweets, they've been posting up a storm. I wonder who it could be... :!: :?: :arrow:
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11. This is just it
12. This couldn't be it
13. This is very much it
14. This is so it
15. This AIN'T it? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously, though, whomever posting those tweets, they've been posting up a storm. I wonder who it could be... :!: :?: :arrow:
i know! like every hour or so. someone's been bored for 10 months....
(ha ha)
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11. This is just it
12. This couldn't be it
13. This is very much it
14. This is so it
15. This AIN'T it? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously, though, whomever posting those tweets, they've been posting up a storm. I wonder who it could be... :!: :?: :arrow:
i know! like every hour or so. someone's been bored for 10 months....
(ha ha)
Has it been every hour, ON the HOUR since I've been in class? I glanced and most of them look like a few hours apart...then again I am lacking sleep. :lol: :lol: :lol: :P
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http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
tweeted "Lak 'ech Ala k'in"
http://spiritlibrary.com/center-of-the- ... -the-heart (http://spiritlibrary.com/center-of-the-sun/in-lakech-ala-kin-the-living-code-of-the-heart)
In Mayan tradition, there is a greeting that many people working with Mayan wisdom know of. It is the law of In Lak'ech Ala K'in, which means I am another yourself (A modern day interpretation). It also means I am you, and you are me (A traditional Mayan interpretation)
"Another Part Of Me"
We're Takin' Over
We Have The Truth
This Is The Mission
To See It Through
Don't Point Your Finger
Not Dangerous
This Is Our Planet
You're One Of Us
We're Sendin' Out
A Major Love
And This Is Our
Message To You
(Message To You)
The Planets Are Linin' Up
We're Bringin' Brighter Days
They're All In Line
Waitin' For You
Can't You See . . .?
You're Just Another Part Of Me . .
A Rather Nation
Fulfill The Truth
The Final Message
We're Bring To You
There Is No Danger
Fulfill The Truth
So Come Together
We're Mean Is You
We're Sendin' Out
A Major Love
And This Is Our
Message To You
(Message To You)
The Planets Are Linin' Up
We're Bringin' Brighter Days
They're All In Line
Waitin' For You
So Look The Truth
You're Just Another Part Of Me . .
We're Sendin' Out
A Major Love
And This Is Our
Message To You
(Message To You)
The Planets Are Linin' Up
We're Bringin' Brighter Days
They're All In Line
Waitin' For You
Can't You See . . .?
You're Just Another Part Of Me
Another Part Of Me . .
We're Takin' Over
This Is The Truth, Baby
Another Part Of Me
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http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit) tweeted:
Big thanks to Aphrodite Jones for doing me justice
133 followers now
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This guy's sharp and entertaining!! I think I like him! :D
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Been following that twitter account for a few days nows, and he sure got some interesting posts.
Must be somebody with great insights and intelligence.
even if it aint Michael , he sure is close to the source .
Loved the golden calf reference, you shouldn't worship the wrong god.
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So what is the significance of tweet 1984?
Lots happened in 1984, end of Victory Tour, Michael going solo, Pepsie Accident, Grammy Awards, visit to White House.
ChildByAdoption on twitter said months ago, something happen way back around the time of Wanna Be Starting Something which was 1984 I think. She said we needed to go way back to the beginning and review.
Just thinking outloud?
:? ;)
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So what is the significance of tweet 1984?
Lots happened in 1984, end of Victory Tour, Michael going solo, Pepsie Accident, Grammy Awards, visit to White House.
When I saw the tweet "1984", I thought of that George Orwell novel 1984 I'm aware of...
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i'm not twittering, but i bookmarked that page. it does sound too good to be true, but makes so much sense at the same time. especially looking at the high-profile list there...but then, anyone could have given tweets like that after some research or following 'michael news', like so many did before. but the increase in followings is amazing. i've become really careful in assuming any kind of 'comeback' soon. but if this is real, i take it as another 'flag waving' from mike, wanting to let us know that he is okay. i'm perfectly fine with that, it's all i need to keep believing. despite the uncertainty.
and i agree with the above poster: there have been so many claiming to be mike, it would actually be the easiest thing to do the obvious - sign up as yourself. cuz nobody even dares to think it's the real deal.
taking 'neverland' as the location is in this sense true (regardless of mike actually being there or not), cuz it is an imaginary land in the first place. neverland is anywhere and nowhere...
i also think that 1984 refers to george orwell's novel more than a personal event. big brother is watching you...read the novel again or watch the movie, orwell wasn't so much 'off track' than people thought...and aspects of that are also depicted in 'v for vendetta', the all-controlling government and its techniques...
i'm utterly speechless at the mere detail and complexity of all this...piece by piece by piece...GENIUS!!! :mrgreen:
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If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am
27 minutes ago via web
how can we do that, im not in twitter so far that i know that :(
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So what is the significance of tweet 1984?
Lots happened in 1984, end of Victory Tour, Michael going solo, Pepsie Accident, Grammy Awards, visit to White House.
When I saw the tweet "1984", I thought of that George Orwell novel 1984 I'm aware of...
He was also on the cover of Time Magazine in 1984..http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641 ... 19,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19840319,00.html).
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If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am
27 minutes ago via web
how can we do that, im not in twitter so far that i know that :(
so, is this in reference to a question someone asked him? This sounds like a dare but I also don't know how to do background checks.
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the word "background" stands out to me....are they referring to the background pic on their Twitter profile page? Meaning we should look at that & that will explain who he really is? The background pic is the one with the "dummy" Michael laying on a table with Michael & other cameramen filming.... IDK, just a thought :?
If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am
27 minutes ago via web
how can we do that, im not in twitter so far that i know that :(
so, is this in reference to a question someone asked him? This sounds like a dare but I also don't know how to do background checks.
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Perhaps the "background" he is referring to is actually the "background" in the TAIA redirect for today, 4/30....just a thought? Perhaps TIAI (This Is Also It) and TIAI (This Is Almost It) are related....
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So what is the significance of tweet 1984?
Lots happened in 1984, end of Victory Tour, Michael going solo, Pepsie Accident, Grammy Awards, visit to White House.
When I saw the tweet "1984", I thought of that George Orwell novel 1984 I'm aware of...
He was also on the cover of Time Magazine in 1984..http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641 ... 19,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19840319,00.html).
Ah, that's true. I think I saw that cover before. And that picture is an Andy Warhol classic. xD
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the word "background" stands out to me....are they referring to the background pic on their Twitter profile page? Meaning we should look at that & that will explain who he really is? The background pic is the one with the "dummy" Michael laying on a table with Michael & other cameramen filming.... IDK, just a thought :?
If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am
27 minutes ago via web
how can we do that, im not in twitter so far that i know that :(
so, is this in reference to a question someone asked him? This sounds like a dare but I also don't know how to do background checks.
Isn't that Twitter background pic from the "Leave Me Alone" video where Michael is talking about the tabloids? I might be wrong. :?: :!:
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I think the answer is in the question...
This guy claims indirectly to be Michael....so if he says "guess who i REALLY am"...just means, he is NOT Michael.
:roll: In the background, I see a fake Michael used for video...
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If you google "this is almost it - Michael Jackson", you come up with this first. It's Carlo Riley's website. So, is this person one of MJ's impersonators? IDK - just throwing ideas out for consideration.
http://www.almostmj.com/ (http://www.almostmj.com/)
MICHAEL JACKSON IMPERSONATOR MICHAEL JACKSON LOOK ALIKE MJ TRIBUTE
Michael Jackson impersonator Michael Jackson Impersonators impersonators Michael Jackson tribute show michael jackson look alike tribute artist, AlmostMJ, ...
www.almostmj.com/ (http://www.almostmj.com/) - Cached - Similar
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OMG....I even don't want to laugh about it... First I just find it ridiculous, then I just wonder if all those impersonators can live without having their own "image". What is the point to look so much like another person. They'll never BE that person...
I don't know what to do with this account... I'm like "Should I stay, or should I go ? "
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# 1+1+1=3 about 6 hours ago via web
This is the newest tweet. Thoughts?
Come Together has a line that says 1+1+1 is 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaZzZactGQU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaZzZactGQU)
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Interesting! And I like his siggy pic... ;)
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I think the answer is in the question...
This guy claims indirectly to be Michael....so if he says "guess who i REALLY am"...just means, he is NOT Michael.
:roll: In the background, I see a fake Michael used for video...
Yeap, I think you´re right. Very good syllogism.
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# Heaven is here about 10 hours ago via web
# I don't like taking my bows under the stage about 11 hours ago via web
Newest Tweets are above...interesting but I don't have a clue what he/she is trying to say. Thoughts?
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New tweet: Southpark 8:07
Watch season 8 of South Park.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104393 (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104393)
And this is part 7 of season 8: http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/807/ (http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/807/)
I must warn you, it's not funny for us fan's
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South Park. :evil:
Newest tweet:
What news did you miss on june 25th?
I found this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YfHafMAMHZoJ:naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html+news+for+June+25,+2009&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder
Thursday, June 25, 2009 by: Barbara L. Minton, citizen journalist
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Key concepts: Pandemic, Swine flu and Bioterrorism
View on NaturalPedia: Pandemic, Swine flu and Bioterrorism
(NaturalNews) As the anticipated July release date for Baxter's A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway. Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
Summary of claims and allegations filed with FBI in Austria on June 10, 2009
In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.
The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the "bird flu" virus and the "swine flu virus" in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.
Burgermeister's charges include evidence that Baxter AG, Austrian subsidiary of Baxter International, deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus, supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009 to 16 laboratories in four counties. She claims this evidence offers clear proof that the pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies themselves are actively engaged in producing, developing, manufacturing and distributing biological agents classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth in order to trigger a pandemic and cause mass death.
In her April charges, she noted that Baxter's lab in Austria, one of the supposedly most secure biosecurity labs in the world, did not adhere to the most basic and essential steps to keep 72 kilos of a pathogen classified as a bioweapon secure and separate from all other substances under stringent biosecurity level regulations, but it allowed it to be mixed with the ordinary human flu virus and sent from its facilities in Orth in the Donau.
In February, when a staff member at BioTest in the Czech Republic tested the material meant for candidate vaccines on ferrets, the ferrets died. This incident was not followed up by any investigation from the WHO, EU, or Austrian health authorities. There was no investigation of the content of the virus material, and there is no data on the genetic sequence of the virus released.
In answer to parliamentary questions on May 20th, the Austrian Health Minister, Alois Stoger, revealed that the incident had been handled not as a biosecurity lapse, as it should have been, but as an offence against the veterinary code. A veterinary doctor was sent to the lab for a brief inspection.
Burgermeister's dossier reveals that the release of the virus was to be an essential step for triggering a pandemic that would allow the WHO to declare a Level 6 Pandemic. She lists the laws and decrees that would allow the UN and WHO to take over the United States in the event of pandemic. In addition, legislation requiring compliance with mandatory vaccinations would be put into force in the U.S. under conditions of pandemic declaration.
She charges that the entire "swine flu" pandemic business is premised on a massive lie that there is no natural virus out there that poses a threat to the population. She presents evidence leading to the belief that the bird flu and swine flu viruses have, in fact, been bioengineered in laboratories using funding supplied by the WHO and other government agencies, among others. This "swine flu" is a hybrid of part swine flu, part human flu and part bird flu, something that can only come from laboratories according to many experts.
WHO's claim that this "swine flu" is spreading and a pandemic must be declared ignores the fundamental causes. The viruses that were released were created and released with the help of WHO, and WHO is overwhelmingly responsible for the pandemic in the first place. In addition, the symptoms of the supposed "swine flu" are indistinguishable from regular flu or from the common cold. The "swine flu" does not cause death anymore often than the regular flu causes death.
Burgermeister notes that the figures for deaths reported for the "swine flu" are inconsistent and there is no clarity as to how the number of "deaths" has been documented.
There is no pandemic potential unless mass vaccinations are carried out to weaponize the flu under the guise of protecting the population. There are reasonable grounds for believing that the mandatory vaccines will be purposely contaminated with diseases that are specifically designed to cause death.
Reference is made to a licensed Novartis bird flu vaccine that killed 21 homeless people in Poland in the summer of 2008 and had as its "primary outcome measure" an "adverse events rate", thereby meeting the U.S. government's own definition of a bioweapon (a biological agent designed to cause an adverse events rate, i.e death or injury) with a delivery system (injection).
She alleges that the same complex of international pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies that have developed and released pandemic material have positioned themselves to profit from triggering the pandemic with contracts to supply vaccines. Media controlled by the group that is engineering the "swine flu" agenda is spreading misinformation to lull the people of the U.S. into taking the dangerous vaccine.
The people of the U.S. will suffer substantial and irreparable harm and injury if they are forced to take this unproven vaccine without their consent in accordance with the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, National Emergency Act, National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51, Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-20, and the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza.
In the U.S. since 2008, Burgermeister charges that those named in her allegations have implemented new and/or accelerated the implementation of laws and regulations designed to strip the citizens of the U.S. of their lawful constitutional rights to refuse an injection. These people have created or allowed provisions to remain in place that make it a criminal act to refuse to take an injection against pandemic viruses. They have imposed other excessive and cruel penalties such as imprisonment and/or quarantine in FEMA camps while barring the citizens of the U.S. from claiming compensation from injury or death from the forced injections. This is in violation of the laws governing federal corruption and the abuse of office as well as of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Through these actions, the named defendants have laid the groundwork for mass genocide.
Using the "swine flu" as a pretext, the defendants have preplanned the mass murder of the U.S. population by means of forced vaccination. They have installed an extensive network of FEMA concentration camps and identified mass grave sites, and they have been involved in devising and implementing a scheme to hand power over the U.S. to an international crime syndicate that uses the UN and WHO as a front for illegal racketeering influenced organized crime activities, in violation of the laws that govern treason.
She further charges that the complex of pharmaceutical companies consisting of Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi Aventis are part of a foreign-based dual purpose bioweapons program, financed by this international criminal syndicate and designed to implement mass murder to reduce the world's population by more than 5 billion people in the next ten years. Their plan is to spread terror to justify forcing people to give up their rights, and to force mass quarantine in FEMA camps. The houses, companies and farms and lands of those who are killed will be up for grabs by this syndicate.
By eliminating the population of North America, the international elite gain access to the region's natural resources such as water and undeveloped oil lands. And by eliminating the U.S. and its democratic constitution by subsuming it under a North American Union, the international crime group will have total control over North America.
Highlights from the complete dossier
The complete dossier of the June 10th action is a 69 page document presenting evidence to substantiate all charges. This includes:
Factual background that delineates time lines and facts that establish probable cause, UN and WHO definitions and roles, and history and incidents from the April, 2009 "swine flu" outbreak.
Evidence the "swine flu" vaccines are defined as bioweapons as delineates in government agencies and regulations classifying and restricting vaccines, and the fear of foreign countries that "swine flu" vaccines will be used for biological warfare.
Scientific evidence the "swine flu" virus is an artificial (genetic) virus.
Scientific evidence the "swine flu" was bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus of 1918 including quotes from Swine Flu 2009 is Weaponized 1918 Spanish Flu by A. True Ott, Ph.D., N.D., and a Science Magazine report from Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger et.al.
The genome sequence of the "swine flu"
Evidence of the deliberate release of the "swine flu" in Mexico
Evidence as to the involvement of President Obama that delineates his trip to Mexico which coincided with the recent "swine flu" outbreak and the death of several officials involved in his trip. Contention is made that the President was never tested for "swine flu" because he had been previously vaccinated.
Evidence as to the role of Baxter and WHO in producing and releasing pandemic virus material in Austria includes a statement from a Baxter official stating the accidentally distributed H5N1 in the Czech Republic was received from a WHO reference center. This includes delineation of evidence and allegations from Burgermeister's charges filed in April in Austria that are currently under investigation.
Evidence Baxter is an element in a covert bioweapons network
Evidence Baxter has deliberately contaminated vaccine material.
Evidence Novartis is using vaccines as bioweapons
Evidence as to WHO's role in the bioweapons program
Evidence as to WHO's manipulation of disease data in order to justify declaring a Pandemic Level 6 in order to seize control of the USA.
Evidence as to the FDA's role in covering up the bioweapons program
Evidence as to Canada's National Microbiology Lab's role in the bioweapons program.
Evidence of the involvement of scientists working for the UK's NIBSC, and the CDC in engineering the "swine flu".
Evidence vaccinations caused the Spanish killer flu of 1918 including belief of Dr. Jerry Tennant that the widespread use of aspirin during the winter that followed the end of World War I could have been a key factor contributing to the earlier pandemic by suppressing the immune system and lowering body temperatures, allowing the flu virus to multiply. Tamiflu and Relenza also lower body temperatures, and therefore can also be expected to contribute to the spread of a pandemic.
Evidence as to manipulation of the legal framework to allow mass murder with impunity.
Constitutional issues: the legality vs. illegality of jeopardizing the life, health and public good by mass vaccinations.
The issue of immunity and compensation as evidence of intent to commit a crime.
Evidence as to the existence of an international corporate crime syndicate.
Evidence of the existence of the "Illuminati".
Evidence as to the depopulation agenda of the Illuminati/Bilderbergs and their involvement in the engineering and release of the artificial "swine flu" virus.
Evidence that weaponized flu was discussed at the annual Bilderberg meeting in Athens from May 14-17, 2009, as part of their agenda of genocide, including a list of attendees who, according to a statement once made by Pierre Trudeau, view themselves as genetically superior to the rest of humanity.
Media is keeping Americans clueless about the threat they are under
Jane Burgermeister is a dual Irish/Austrian who has written for Nature, the British Medical Journal, and American Prospect. She is the European Correspondent of the Renewable Energy World website. She has written extensively about climate change, biotechnology, and the ecology.
In addition to the charges currently under investigation that she filed against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology in April, she has filed charges against WHO and Baxter among others concerning a case of exploding "swine flu" vials meant for a research lab on a busy IC train in Switzerland.
In her view, control of the media by the ruling elite has allowed the world crime syndicate to further its agenda unabated while the rest of the people remain in the dark about what is really going on. Her charges are an attempt to get around this media control and bring the truth to light.
Her greatest concern is that "in spite of the fact Baxter has been caught red handed nearly triggering pandemic, they are also moving ahead, together with allied pharma companies, with supplying the vaccine for pandemics." Baxter is hurrying to get this vaccine to market some time in July.
For more information:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html)
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/200.. (http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/200..).
http://in.news.yahoo.com/137/200906.. (http://in.news.yahoo.com/137/200906..).
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.. (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/..).
Still looking....
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Truthseeker
Very interesting post. I am also following thisisalmostit on twitter. whoever it is is leaving a lot of cryptic clues and making me think...hummmmmmmm...
Also, that picture in the background that has also been posted before on other websites, has what looks like a dummy to me on the table (for scale, positioning?), with Michael and others looking at it. The face looks very dummy-like to me. And I swear it looks like the photo shopped ambulance picture. I wish I had better photo software to clean up the image after I increase the size.
I have never posted before on this website, however I have been following the hoax theories from the beginning. I am becoming more and more convinced that something "strange" is actually going on because of the large gaping holes in stories.
I grew up with the Jackson's music, and of course, purchased the Off the Wall Album by Michael Jackson. I was not what you might call a "long time fan" or even a fan of MJ's music, or any artist for that matter. I was kind of out of touch with the whole music scene for a very long time (long story). After MJ "passed" I felt very sad for some strange reason, and started becoming more acquainted with his music, there was so much that I missed over the years. I am now a fan, I think he is a genius. I feel so horribly sorry for everything that man had to go through in his life. I hope whatever he may be planning he winds up happier in the end, he deserves it.
Jodi
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Based on Voiceforthesilent's post, my question is this....what evidence, if any, is there of Michael Jackson's relationship with Jane B? Your post is just one word: CHILLING....if all of this is indeed in place and in play and you can show proof of a Michael/Jane Connection, I would be very interested in hearing it...(if this question has already been addressed, I apologize...there is so much to keep up with, I guess I have missed this thread previously)....this connection would be a more than an ample reason for Michael to pull off something as elaborate as his own Death Hoax in order to become The Man Behind The Curtain to help us all....it would be the perfect reason that he felt he could pull it off and be forgiven for it....this is scarier to me than a meteor hitting our Earth...it is simply diabolical....Evil Incarnate....evidence that Satan does indeed exist....please either show the Michael/Jane Connection or direct us to a link that does...thanks!
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New tweet: Southpark 8:07
Watch season 8 of South Park.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104393 (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104393)
And this is part 7 of season 8: http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/807/ (http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/807/)
I must warn you, it's not funny for us fan's
Can you give us a condensed version of what it's about?
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heisinme09, were you taking about my post? :)
Based on Voiceforthesilent's post, my question is this....what evidence, if any, is there of Michael Jackson's relationship with Jane B? Your post is just one word: CHILLING....if all of this is indeed in place and in play and you can show proof of a Michael/Jane Connection, I would be very interested in hearing it...(if this question has already been addressed, I apologize...there is so much to keep up with, I guess I have missed this thread previously)....this connection would be a more than an ample reason for Michael to pull off something as elaborate as his own Death Hoax in order to become The Man Behind The Curtain to help us all....it would be the perfect reason that he felt he could pull it off and be forgiven for it....this is scarier to me than a meteor hitting our Earth...it is simply diabolical....Evil Incarnate....evidence that Satan does indeed exist....please either show the Michael/Jane Connection or direct us to a link that does...thanks!
It's chilling, yes. But I won't let fear overtake love in me. :lol:
And it could be the perfect, more than ample reason for him to pull it off.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290)
It's David Icke, so I'm not sure of a "connection", or if there is one. Quotes from this thread:
Both Michael Jackson and Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad al-Khalifa have been long standing supporters of the fearless Austrian investigative journalist, Jane Burgermeister, who is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway
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Mr. Jackson would allow his sold-out United Kingdom concerts to be a “platform” for warning the World of a soon to occur mass genocide event.
From what I can read, David Icke thinks the CIA assassinated Michael. :?: I think the CIA part is just thrown in the mix to distract from and discredit both Jane Burgermeister's work and Michael's message.
Here are two interviews with Jane Burgermeister: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelTWCUm ... _embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelTWCUmTsU&feature=player_embedded#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt9mz3fW ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt9mz3fWmxI&feature=player_embedded)
I don't know if there is any connection between Michael/Jane other than the fact that the news of his "death" overshadowed the news reports of Jane's lawsuit. I'm still researching to find any connections. Some say there is no connection. But I think Michael was aware of what she was doing. She lost her job over filing that lawsuit.
There are lots of threads concerning Jane Burgermeister on this forum. I'm checking the search now to see if there is anything else.
@JBrazzi3 Yes, it's very interesting. And the photo, the miniature rollercoaster track is what made me think of the 'Leave Me Alone' video. I think the fact that it is a picture of him behind the camera is significant. I think Michael is a genius, too! :D
L.O.V.E to all
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Latest tweets (for those who don't have twitter, or aren't following , yet) :)
Don't let love blind you, all is SPELLed out for you
http://tinyurl.com/385jula (http://tinyurl.com/385jula)
http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw (http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw)
I have one question about the second link. If it was posted on 6/29/2009, how did they get a picture of the casket for the post, unless they went back and added it later? :?:
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Latest tweets (for those who don't have twitter, or aren't following , yet) :)
Don't let love blind you, all is SPELLed out for you
http://tinyurl.com/385jula (http://tinyurl.com/385jula)
http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw (http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw)
I have one question about the second link. If it was posted on 6/29/2009, how did they get a picture of the casket for the post, unless they went back and added it later? :?:
"this is it?" is that what is spelled out for us?
"south park has lots of clues?" ........what?
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Latest tweet:
Revelation 18
43 minutes ago via web
I'm not very familiar with the bible, so can someone tell me what revelation 18 is :D
L.O.V.E
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Truthseeker....so sorry....not sure how I mistakenly thought that was your post I was commenting on rather than voiceforthesilent...but anyway, thank you for that further info...I must admit, all of this that you write about is so terrifying, it's like being forced to walk up to the edge of a cliff...I'm afraid to look down...what will I find?...the Pollyanna in me wants so badly to believe that none of this could be true...the ostrich in me wants to just bury my head in the sand...but this is starting to bring out my Inner Doberman (sorry, Doberman lovers on this board!)...I know several people who got the H1N1 vaccine, primarily young parents and their children...however, things I had read previously on this board stopped me from getting it...I haven't had a chance yet to investigate all the links you provided, but in a nutshell, for those that did get the vaccine already, will there be a deadly side effect? Wouldn't that already have happened? Or is it a slower, long term result? Again, if that info has been provided, but I just didn't see it, I apologize in advance....btw, I think you are brave.
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Revelation 18 (King James Version)
Revelation 18
1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
20Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
21And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
22And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
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Thankyou heisinme09 for posting this :D
I will admit that i don't really understand it :?
Does anyone have any thoughts on it?
Why would it be relevent? What is the message in it?
Sorry if these seem like stupid questions :oops:
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That time has come for consumer society to end...
I'm an atheist, and don't believe in God's judgement, or in Devil...so... :roll: But I would be interested to know what he/she wants to says about this...
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This is a warning, I think.
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Truthseeker....so sorry....not sure how I mistakenly thought that was your post I was commenting on rather than voiceforthesilent...but anyway, thank you for that further info...I must admit, all of this that you write about is so terrifying, it's like being forced to walk up to the edge of a cliff...I'm afraid to look down...what will I find?...the Pollyanna in me wants so badly to believe that none of this could be true...the ostrich in me wants to just bury my head in the sand...but this is starting to bring out my Inner Doberman (sorry, Doberman lovers on this board!)...I know several people who got the H1N1 vaccine, primarily young parents and their children...however, things I had read previously on this board stopped me from getting it...I haven't had a chance yet to investigate all the links you provided, but in a nutshell, for those that did get the vaccine already, will there be a deadly side effect? Wouldn't that already have happened? Or is it a slower, long term result? Again, if that info has been provided, but I just didn't see it, I apologize in advance....btw, I think you are brave.
heisinme09, no problems! ;) Some are reporting side effects from the vaccine. Just google "side effects of h1n1 vaccine", and do a search on YouTube when you can. Very interesting stuff.
I was really scared when I first found all this stuff. It took a while for me to accept it all. First I got really angry, then I got depressed. I've been at the edge of that same cliff. I looked down, and what did I see? Michael, who laid down his "life" for this message. There is no greater love than that of a man who lays his life down for those he loves. So instead of falling off the edge, I decided to fly, to fight. Brave? Me? Maybe, maybe not. I just have never stopped believing in faith, hope, and most of all, love.
Hang in there. Remember, we're all in this together! "It's an adventure, a great adventure! Nothing to be scared of!" HUGS to you! :D
L.O.V.E to all
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Latest tweet: In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
This line was also in the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report".
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Latest tweet: In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
This line was also in the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report".
did anyone watch the Minority Report - in particular what was he referencing when he made that statement?
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Recap..you will need to read from the bottom up.
1. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king about 6 hours ago via web
2. Revelation 18 about 10 hours ago via web
3. Don't let love blind you, all is SPELLed out for you about 13 hours ago via web
4. http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw (http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw) about 14 hours ago via web
5. http://tinyurl.com/385jula (http://tinyurl.com/385jula) about 14 hours ago via web
6. What news did you miss on june 25th? about 22 hours ago via web
7. Use your common sense 2:35 PM May 1st via web
8. Southpark has lots of clues 2:14 PM May 1st via web
9. "Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun " 2:07 PM May 1st via web
10. Southpark 8:07 1:22 PM May 1st via web
11. Heaven is here 11:32 PM Apr 30th via web
12. I don't like taking my bows under the stage 10:38 PM Apr 30th via web
13. 1+1+1=3 4:20 PM Apr 30th via web
14. If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am 10:09 AM Apr 30th via web
15. The rehearsals are going great !! 5:36 AM Apr 30th via web
16. Big thanks to Aphrodite Jones for doing me justice 12:12 AM Apr 30th via web
17. 1984 2:13 PM Apr 29th via web
18. Lak 'ech Ala k'in 1:10 PM Apr 29th via web
19. Jason P was not my lover 11:02 AM Apr 29th via web
20. Never become a lemming !! 9:42 AM Apr 29th via web
21. It's the real thing 9:06 AM Apr 29th via web
22. Exodus 32 6:56 AM Apr 29th via web
23. egnahc a ekam neht dna flesruoy ta kool a ekaT 6:03 AM Apr 29th via web
24. She's ok and traveling 5:54 AM Apr 29th via web
25. Let s pray for Elizabeth, I really hope she is treated right at Cedars 10:58 PM Apr 28th via web
26. Can't wait 4 july 3:49 PM Apr 28th via web
27. I'm so happy you all still beLIEve, please spread the L.O.V.E. 3:34 PM Apr 28th via web
28. The kids are allright now 3:23 PM Apr 28th via web
29. Doing it all for L.O.V.E. 2:55 PM Apr 28th via web
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Thnx for the recap, and some great analyses, even if it isn't Michael , I'm sure been entertained
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Latest tweet: In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
This line was also in the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report".
did anyone watch the Minority Report - in particular what was he referencing when he made that statement?
It's when he's buying the drug "Clarity" from the one-eyed man on the street.
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Latest tweet: " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway "
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Latest tweet: " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway "
This is a line from Paul Anka's song "My Way".
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"Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun " 2:07 PM May 1st via web
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#9 on the list of this person's tweets....does anyone have any ideas about this one?
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keyboardwizz wrote:
"Thnx for the recap, and some great analyses, even if it isn't Michael , I'm sure been entertained."
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Couldn't agree more....this is exciting....what does all of this mean? I see it all started on April 28th...wasn't there something about April 28th written right before that date as a date that something big was about to start? It's all happening so fast and furiously right now, it's almost hard to keep up with all of it!
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"Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun " 2:07 PM May 1st via web
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#9 on the list of this person's tweets....does anyone have any ideas about this one?
I Googled this one yesterday and came up with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_(song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_(song))
Read the first paragraph. "Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun" is from a Prince album.
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Latest tweet: " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway "
This is a line from Paul Anka's song "My Way".
According the the "reliable" Wikkipedia...this is the theme of the song...let's hope he's just using the famous quote "I did it my way".
Themes
The lyrics of "My Way" tell the story of a man who is nearing death. He is comfortable with and takes responsibility for how he dealt with all the twists of his life while maintaining a respectable degree of integrity.
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I don't like to take my bows under the stage brought this to my mind. Pretty funny. Watch the video to the end when Michael's "rival", Prince, falls off the stage! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaFj7gOWh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaFj7gOWh4).
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I think the answer is in the question...
This guy claims indirectly to be Michael....so if he says "guess who i REALLY am"...just means, he is NOT Michael.
:roll: In the background, I see a fake Michael used for video...
I would have to agree with you that I don't think this is Michael. I could be someone speaking on his behalf, IDK. The reason I say this is because of the word lemming. Do any of you North Americans out there use the word lemming in your vocabulary? Just curious...
I know that Michael is a world traveler, but it's still a strange choice for a word. I have to say that I am educated and up to a month ago, I had never heard the word. Just by pure coincidence a friend at work who is Scottish used the word and I had to ask her what it meant. Her brief definition to me is a rodent that is known for its suicidal tendencies because it will follow the others off of a cliff. In terms of humans, it's when someone follows the crowd, doesn't think for themselves, and has no identity of their own. I googled the definition and this is what it says...
Lemming definition
The act of following the crowd into an investment that will inevitably head for disaster.
Investopedia Commentary
In the animal kingdom, a lemming is a rodent known for periodic mass migrations that occasionally end in drowning.
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Actually it was Frank Sinatra that recorded the song 'My Way" years ago, Elivs and Paul Anka also recorded the song...these are the lyrics
And now the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend I'll say it clear
I'll state my case of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I traveled each and every highway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
Regrets I've had a few
But then again too few to mention
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course
Each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
Yes there were times I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew
But through it all when there was doubt
I ate it up and spit it out, I faced it all
And I stood tall and did it my way
I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now as tears subside
I find it all so amusing
To think I did all that
And may I say not in a shy way
Oh no, oh no, not me
I did it my way
For what is a man what has he got
If not himself then he has not
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels
The record shows I took the blows
And did it my way
Yes it was my way
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I don't like to take my bows under the stage brought this to my mind. Pretty funny. Watch the video to the end when Michael's "rival", Prince, falls off the stage! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaFj7gOWh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaFj7gOWh4).
That was really nice of Michael to insist on Prince coming up but it didn't look like Prince was in too good of shape. Nothing against Prince but he should have kept his shirt on. :)
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Actually it was Frank Sinatra that recorded the song 'My Way" years ago, Elivs and Paul Anka also recorded the song...these are the lyrics
And now the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend I'll say it clear
I'll state my case of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I traveled each and every highway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
Regrets I've had a few
But then again too few to mention
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course
Each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
Yes there were times I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew
But through it all when there was doubt
I ate it up and spit it out, I faced it all
And I stood tall and did it my way
I've loved, I've laughed and cried
I've had my fill, my share of losing
And now as tears subside
I find it all so amusing
To think I did all that
And may I say not in a shy way
Oh no, oh no, not me
I did it my way
For what is a man what has he got
If not himself then he has not
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels
The record shows I took the blows
And did it my way
Yes it was my way
You are both right. Paul Anka wrote the English Lyrics but Frank Sinatra made it popular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_%28song%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_%28song%29)
"My Way" is an English version of a French song. The English lyrics were written by Paul Anka and popularized by Frank Sinatra on his 1969 album My Way.
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voiceforthesilent -- I actually used this word "Lemming" in a Michael-related forum not too long ago. Perhaps it's more of a "generational" term. A similar term for today might be "sheeple". It's also a lyric used in Synchronicity by the Police -- "packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes". I think that part of the Michael's message is to not follow the crowd, to think for ourselves. Just my thoughts. Guess I'm showing my age!! ;)
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Gotta love the people that are already kissing a**, just in case it IS Michael..
:roll: :lol:
Anyways, I guess I'll check up on this every once in a while. It couldn't hurt.
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viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9379 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9379) I made a connection. Some of you may be interested.
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voiceforthesilent -- I actually used this word "Lemming" in a Michael-related forum not too long ago. Perhaps it's more of a "generational" term. A similar term for today might be "sheeple". It's also a lyric used in Synchronicity by the Police -- "packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes". I think that part of the Michael's message is to not follow the crowd, to think for ourselves. Just my thoughts. Guess I'm showing my age!! ;)
Interesting - I don't think it's generational. I'd bet we're probably around the same age but maybe it's different parts of the country that use that term more than where I grew up. I don't remember that word in that song but maybe I thought it said something else :) I appreciate the insight. Thanks.
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Could the bomb incident be related to the tweet about South Park?
Re: OMG!! Bomb scare in time square NYC !! link to South Park
Postby voiceforthesilent » Mon May 03, 2010 4:31 am
looking4truth wrote:Just making some connection
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
Check out the tweets from May 1st, one day prior to this news.
# What news did you miss on june 25th? 5:01 PM May 1st via web
# Use your common sense 2:35 PM May 1st via web
# Southpark has lots of clues 2:14 PM May 1st via web
# "Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun " 2:07 PM May 1st via web
# Southpark 8:07 1:22 PM May 1st via web
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newest tweet:
# I guess I'll have to play Pagliacci about 1 hour ago via web
is this person referring to this song "I'm afraid the masquerade is over?"
lyrics:
Your eyes don't shine like they used to shine
And the thrill is gone when your lips meet mine
I'm afraid the masquerade is over
And so is love, and so is love
Your words don't mean what they used to mean
They were once inspired, now they're just routine
I'm afraid the masquerade is over
And so is love, and so is love
I guess I'll have to play Pagliacci
And get myself a clown's disguise
And learn to laugh like Pagliacci
With tears in my eyes
You look the same, you're a lot the same
But my heart says "no, no, no, no, you're not the same"
I'm afraid the masquerade is over
And so is love, and so is love
thoughts?
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I googled Pagliacci and found out it is an opera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci)
The prologue caught my attention
Prologue
During the overture, the curtain rises. From behind a second curtain, Tonio, dressed as his commedia character Taddeo, addresses the audience. (Si può?... Si può?... Signore! Signori! ... Un nido di memorie.) He reminds the audience that actors have feelings too, and that the show is about real humans.
idk it's been a long day so i could be way off the mark :?:
Would love to hear other opinions on this
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Latest tweet, since I am up at 3 A.M. :lol:
My heart goes out to Peter Lopez 's family
as does mine
And as far as the South Park and Pagliacci tweets, I think they are related. But not about the bomb threat, imo. I watched all of South Park Season 8, unfortunately. I don't like that show at all. :evil: But there are clues there. Good ones, I had to listen closely, and imagine how Michael felt about it
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
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I googled Pagliacci and found out it is an opera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci)
The prologue caught my attention
Prologue
During the overture, the curtain rises. From behind a second curtain, Tonio, dressed as his commedia character Taddeo, addresses the audience. (Si può?... Si può?... Signore! Signori! ... Un nido di memorie.) He reminds the audience that actors have feelings too, and that the show is about real humans.
idk it's been a long day so i could be way off the mark :?:
Would love to hear other opinions on this
wow - both views are interesting. From behind a second curtain...the show is about real humans or referring to this song "I'm afraid the masquerade is over". It really could be both, right?
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Delete. Reason: Nevermind. :)
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
Google and you'll see Michael sang backup in this song!
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
Google and you'll see Michael sang backup in this song!
Lyrics to What a Fool Believes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-k4-L6GAjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-k4-L6GAjE)
Michael Jackson claimed to have contributed at least one backing track to the original Doobie Brothers recording, but was not credited for having done so.[2]
He came from somewhere back in her long ago
The sentimental fool don’t see tryin’ hard to recreate
What had yet to be created once in her life
She musters a smile for his nostalgic tale
Never comin’ near what he wanted to say
Only to realize it never really was
She had a place in his life
He never made her think twice
As he rises to her apology
Anybody else would surely know
He’s watchin’ her go
What a fool believes he sees
No wise man has the power to reason away
What seems to be
Is always better than nothing
And nothing at all
Keeps sending him somewhere back in her long ago
Where he can still believe there’s a place in her life
Someday, somewhere, she will return
She had a place in his life
He never made her think twice
As he rises to her apology
Anybody else would surely know
He’s watchin’ her go
What a fool believes he sees
No wise man has the power to reason away
What seems to be
(if love can come an’ love can go)
(Why can’t love be [incomprehensible]?)
Is always better than nothing
(Ooo, [incomprehensible])
And, nothing at all
(Oh my)
What a fool believes he sees
(He believes he’s never gone away)
No wise man has the power to reason away
(To reason)
To reason away
(Oh if love can come an’ love can go)
What seems to be
(Oh my love)
Is always better than nothing
(Better than nothing)
Nothing at all
(Oh my love)
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
Google and you'll see Michael sang backup in this song!
Oh yeahhh! I just recently learned that a month or so ago! Before the hoax I had no idea,lol. Thanks for the reminder. :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol:
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
I TWEET YESTERDAY TO THIS PERSON SOMETHING LIKE:
if you are YOU nobody beLIEve you, you can do what you want and everybody will say that YOU are a double LOL!
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I googled Pagliacci and found out it is an opera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci)
The prologue caught my attention
Prologue
During the overture, the curtain rises. From behind a second curtain, Tonio, dressed as his commedia character Taddeo, addresses the audience. (Si può?... Si può?... Signore! Signori! ... Un nido di memorie.) He reminds the audience that actors have feelings too, and that the show is about real humans.
idk it's been a long day so i could be way off the mark :?:
Would love to hear other opinions on this
the pagliacci is also the black/white clown with the sad face and the pointed hat, wearing a white suit with black dots. this clown is always dressed black and white (like mike?). as we all might remember, mike dressed up as such a clown with a sad face and had pics taken. also, luciano pavarotti has an album cover in this outfit cuz he sang that opera. and mike once shared a stage with pavarotti... 8-)
and we also know that the circus will be coming to town...and if i'm not mistaken, the pagliacci (named after beppo pagliacci), the most elegant clown of all, is also the one that does not speak in the circus performance. that is indeed interesting, regarding the wording: 'i guess i'll have to play pagliacci', like there is no other choice...things that make you go 'hmmm'... :?
3 more mike-connections here... :mrgreen:
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
I TWEET YESTERDAY TO THIS PERSON SOMETHING LIKE:
if you are YOU nobody beLIEve you, you can do what you want and everybody will say that YOU are a double LOL!
i actually created a twitter account cuz this one is really interesting and i wanna be able to see if there are answers that 'make sense'. the person seems to adress questions sometimes, so i wanna be able to tweet. on this one, i tweeted: is a fool one who believes or is a fool someone who believes his own LIEs?
what i implied here was: are we the fools cuz we believe, or is the general public foolish cuz they believe the tabloids or are the fools arnie and jason cuz they believe that anyone is buying their story?
i'm waiting to see if this 'cryptic' question gets answered somehow... :mrgreen:
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
I TWEET YESTERDAY TO THIS PERSON SOMETHING LIKE:
if you are YOU nobody beLIEve you, you can do what you want and everybody will say that YOU are a double LOL!
:lol: I´M WAITING HIS ANSWER...
I TWEET: what does IT mean?
i actually created a twitter account cuz this one is really interesting and i wanna be able to see if there are answers that 'make sense'. the person seems to adress questions sometimes, so i wanna be able to tweet. on this one, i tweeted: is a fool one who believes or is a fool someone who believes his own LIEs?
what i implied here was: are we the fools cuz we believe, or is the general public foolish cuz they believe the tabloids or are the fools arnie and jason cuz they believe that anyone is buying their story?
i'm waiting to see if this 'cryptic' question gets answered somehow... :mrgreen:
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
I TWEET YESTERDAY TO THIS PERSON SOMETHING LIKE:
if you are YOU nobody beLIEve you, you can do what you want and everybody will say that YOU are a double LOL!
i actually created a twitter account cuz this one is really interesting and i wanna be able to see if there are answers that 'make sense'. the person seems to adress questions sometimes, so i wanna be able to tweet. on this one, i tweeted: is a fool one who believes or is a fool someone who believes his own LIEs?
what i implied here was: are we the fools cuz we believe, or is the general public foolish cuz they believe the tabloids or are the fools arnie and jason cuz they believe that anyone is buying their story?
i'm waiting to see if this 'cryptic' question gets answered somehow... :mrgreen:
:lol: I´M WAITING HIS ANSWER...
I TWEET: what does IT mean?
LOL...right!!! tell IT!!! :mrgreen:
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The newest tweet:
"Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ?"
It's getting way too interesting....
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I've got a very strong feeling that this person is following this site, there was a thread about Paul just a few days ago, right?
I also watched that South Park episode, it was hard to watch, the story is very cruel, but it has some interesting lines....
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RE: The Paul Tweet
The date (9-11-66) is not written in American fashion....in the states, we would write it 11-9-66....here is the wikipedia link for the "Death of Paul McCartney":
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Paul is dead
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"Paul is dead" is an urban legend alleging that Paul McCartney of the British rock band The Beatles died in 1966 and was replaced by a look-alike and sound-alike. The legend dates from September 1969 when American students published articles claiming that ‘clues’ to McCartney's death, presumed to have been placed deliberately by The Beatles or others, could be found among the lyrics and artwork of The Beatles' recordings. Despite the fact that the most influential article had been intended as a satirical piece, in a few short weeks, the rumour had grown to international proportions. The rumour was rebutted by a contemporary interview with McCartney published in November 1969[1] but continues to attract some interest.
Contents [hide]
1 Beginnings
2 Growth
3 Rebuttal
4 Aftermath
5 Notes
6 References
7 External links
[edit] Beginnings
The first known printed article on the subject "Is Paul McCartney Dead?", was written by Tim Harper in the Drake University paper, the Times-Delphic, on 17 September 1969. [2] [3] Rumours began in earnest however, on 12 October 1969 when a caller to WKNR-FM (Detroit) radio DJ Russ Gibb who identified himself as "Tom" announced that McCartney was dead. He also asked Gibb to play "Revolution 9" backwards; Gibb thought he heard "Turn me on, dead man."[4] Gibb also produced (with John Small and Dan Carlisle) The Beatle Plot, an hour-long radio show on the rumour which aired on WKNR on the same day.[citation needed]
Fred LaBour and John Gray, students at the University of Michigan, having heard the WKNR broadcast, published a satirical review of Abbey Road called "McCartney Dead; New Evidence Brought to Light", itemising various "clues" of McCartney's death on Beatles album covers, in the October 14, 1969 issue of the Michigan Daily. LaBour and Gray had invented many of the "clues", and were astonished when the story was picked up first by newspapers in Detroit, then Chicago, and by the weekend, both coasts of the USA. Author Andru J. Reeve, opines that LaBour's story was the single most significant factor in the breadth of the rumour's spread. [5][6]
[edit] Growth
Roby Yonge, an overnight disc jockey on the radio station WABC in New York, discussed the rumour on air on 21 October 1969 (and was immediately fired for making the broadcast).[7][8] WABC could be heard clearly in 38 US states, and as far as Africa's Atlantic coast.[9] Soon, national and international media picked up on the story and a new "Beatle craze" took off.[citation needed]
A magazine exploiting the rumours[10]Celebrity lawyer F. Lee Bailey hosted an hour-long television special in which he both prosecuted and defended the claims, cross-examining various "experts", including LaBour, leaving it to the viewer to decide. LaBour told Bailey during a pre-show meeting that he had made the whole thing up. Bailey responded, "Well, we have an hour of television to do. You're going to have to go along with this." The program aired locally in New York City on November 30, 1969, and was never re-aired.[6]
Terry Knight, a singer on Capitol Records, had witnessed the Beatles' White Album session during which drummer Ringo Starr had walked out and, in May 1969, released a song—"Saint Paul"—about the impending breakup of The Beatles. This however, was picked up by radio stations in autumn 1969 as a tribute to "the late" Paul McCartney.[11]
The Abbey Road album cover ‘funeral procession’The ‘clues’
Hundreds of supposed clues to McCartney's death were reported by fans and followers of the legend; they include messages perceived when listening to a song being played backwards, and symbolic interpretations of both lyrics and album cover imagery. Oft-cited examples are the belief that the words spoken by McCartney's band-mate John Lennon in the final section of the song "Strawberry Fields Forever" are "I buried Paul"[12] (Lennon and McCartney each later said that the words spoken are actually "Cranberry sauce")[13] and the belief that the Abbey Road album cover symbolises a funeral procession (Lennon is shown dressed all in white, supposedly like a clergyman; Ringo Starr in a black suit, like an undertaker; George Harrison in blue jeans, supposedly symbolising a gravedigger; and McCartney is dressed in a blue suit without shoes, and is walking out of step with the other Beatles as, supposedly, a corpse would).[14] Extensive lists of the supposed clues may be found via the External links section below.
The story
The ‘clues’ were used to suggest the story for how McCartney had supposedly died: three years previously, on 9 November 1966, McCartney, while working on the Sgt. Pepper album, stormed out of a recording session after an argument with his fellow band-members and drove off in his car which he subsequently crashed, and died.[7] The story was pieced together from the lyrics of multiple Beatles songs:
"He didn't notice that the lights had changed" ("A Day in the Life"), he crashed into a lamp-post (a car crash sound is heard in "Revolution 9") and was pronounced dead on a "Wednesday morning at 5 o'clock as the day begins" ("She's Leaving Home"). News of the tragedy was withheld: "Wednesday morning papers didn't come" ("Lady Madonna") and a funeral was held (inferred from the Abbey Road album cover).[citation needed]
According to the story, McCartney's place in The Beatles (as well as his private and social life) had then been taken by ‘William Shears Campbell’ (or someone with a name similar to the "Billy Shears" character in the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album), who had won a McCartney look-alike contest.[1]
The magazine report that rebutted the rumours[edit] Rebuttal
In November 1969, Life magazine published an edition with cover story entitled "The case of the ‘missing’ Beatle: Paul is still with us" which included a contemporary interview with McCartney.[1] McCartney said:
“Anyway all of the things that have been, that have made these rumours, to my mind have very ordinary, logical explanations. To the people’s minds who prefer to think of them as rumours, then I am not going to interfere, I am not going to spoil that fantasy. You can think of it like that if you like. However, if the end result, the conclusion you reach is that I am dead, then you are wrong, because I am very much alive, I am alive and living in Scotland.”[15]
[edit] Aftermath
The legend is the subject of several books and analyses, including American journalist Andru J. Reeve's 1994 book Turn Me On, Dead Man and English author Benjamin Fitzpatrick's 1997 book, Rumours from John, George, Ringo and Me. In a 1978 fanzine, Joel Glazier hypothesised[16] that studio editing and Lennon's love of word play may have been responsible for some of the ‘clues’ in later albums, but that after cult-leader Charles Manson had claimed that Beatles' lyrics referred to an upcoming racial war, the band had chosen not to reveal the joke.
Both Lennon and McCartney subsequently referred to the legend in their music: Lennon in his 1971 song "How Do You Sleep?" (describing those who had spread the rumour as ‘freaks’)[17] and McCartney with the title and cover of his 1993 live album Paul Is Live (sending up both the Abbey Road cover and its "hidden clues").[18] It has also been referred to several times in popular culture; examples include a parody of the story published in the June 1970 Batman comic book[19] and more recently, comedic references to the legend in television programmes such as Battlestar Galactica[20] and The Simpsons.[21]
The advent of the Internet gave the legend new life, but with the basis for the belief shifting from supposed deliberately placed clues, towards supposedly significant differences in McCartney's appearance after 1966.[citation needed] In this vein, in 2009, the Italian affiliate of Wired magazine published an article by Francesco Gavazzeni and forensic scientist Gabriella Carlesi in which they compared McCartney’s facial attributes in selected photographs taken before and after his alleged demise and concluded that it was possible that the photographs were not of the same person. They noted however, that they had not had direct access to McCartney and that they were less certain of their conclusion than might have been the case had they been dealing with a corpse, where a more rigorous analysis would have been possible. [22]
[edit] Notes
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OK...so what is he trying to say? That Paul was supposedly reported as "dead" but he was not dead. Sooooooooooo he is trying to say that MJ is not dead. OK.....this person is cryptic and it's driving me insane. I keep waiting for a new post. I just hope its not some joker that is just stringing us "beLIEver's" along for fun and games. That would be horrific!
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I would love if Mo or Souza would post their thought about ThisIsAlmostIt. Poser? Also that picture?? It erks me!
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
I TWEET YESTERDAY TO THIS PERSON SOMETHING LIKE:
if you are YOU nobody beLIEve you, you can do what you want and everybody will say that YOU are a double LOL!
i actually created a twitter account cuz this one is really interesting and i wanna be able to see if there are answers that 'make sense'. the person seems to adress questions sometimes, so i wanna be able to tweet. on this one, i tweeted: is a fool one who believes or is a fool someone who believes his own LIEs?
what i implied here was: are we the fools cuz we believe, or is the general public foolish cuz they believe the tabloids or are the fools arnie and jason cuz they believe that anyone is buying their story?
i'm waiting to see if this 'cryptic' question gets answered somehow... :mrgreen:
This is such a great question. I had the same ones when I saw the message. Whoever it is they know how to keep a riddle going, don't they? I just hope they aren't playing us.
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I just think this is someone who has been following the hoax forum and is regurgitating the findings here. Almost everything they've mentioned has been mentioned on this forum before.
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Recap..you will need to read from the bottom up.
1. Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ? about 3 hours ago via web
2. What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it about 13 hours ago via web
3. My heart goes out to Peter Lopez 's family about 15 hours ago via web
4. I guess I'll have to play Pagliacci about 16 hours ago via web
5. " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway " 3:28 PM May 2nd via web
6. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king about 6 hours ago via web
7. Revelation 18 about 10 hours ago via web
8. Don't let love blind you, all is SPELLed out for you about 13 hours ago via web
9. http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw (http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw) about 14 hours ago via web
10. http://tinyurl.com/385jula (http://tinyurl.com/385jula) about 14 hours ago via web
11. What news did you miss on june 25th? about 22 hours ago via web
12. Use your common sense 2:35 PM May 1st via web
13. Southpark has lots of clues 2:14 PM May 1st via web
14. "Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun " 2:07 PM May 1st via web
15. Southpark 8:07 1:22 PM May 1st via web
16. Heaven is here 11:32 PM Apr 30th via web
17. I don't like taking my bows under the stage 10:38 PM Apr 30th via web
18. 1+1+1=3 4:20 PM Apr 30th via web
19. If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am 10:09 AM Apr 30th via web
20. The rehearsals are going great !! 5:36 AM Apr 30th via web
21. Big thanks to Aphrodite Jones for doing me justice 12:12 AM Apr 30th via web
22. 1984 2:13 PM Apr 29th via web
23. Lak 'ech Ala k'in 1:10 PM Apr 29th via web
24. Jason P was not my lover 11:02 AM Apr 29th via web
25. Never become a lemming !! 9:42 AM Apr 29th via web
26. It's the real thing 9:06 AM Apr 29th via web
27. Exodus 32 6:56 AM Apr 29th via web
28. egnahc a ekam neht dna flesruoy ta kool a ekaT 6:03 AM Apr 29th via web
29. She's ok and traveling 5:54 AM Apr 29th via web
30. Let s pray for Elizabeth, I really hope she is treated right at Cedars 10:58 PM Apr 28th via web
31. Can't wait 4 july 3:49 PM Apr 28th via web
32. I'm so happy you all still beLIEve, please spread the L.O.V.E. 3:34 PM Apr 28th via web
33. The kids are allright now 3:23 PM Apr 28th via web
34. Doing it all for L.O.V.E. 2:55 PM Apr 28th via web
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OK...so what is he trying to say? That Paul was supposedly reported as "dead" but he was not dead. Sooooooooooo he is trying to say that MJ is not dead. OK.....this person is cryptic and it's driving me insane. I keep waiting for a new post. I just hope its not some joker that is just stringing us "beLIEver's" along for fun and games. That would be horrific!
I think you have a good point, this message means likely that somebody spread the word that Paul died, but it was not true, he is very much alive, sooo Michael is too......
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
Google and you'll see Michael sang backup in this song!
I tweeted back "funny" I posted that on twitter a while back I even posted the song on twitter with MJ as backup. ... ( that song used to be one of my favourite songs espeically the part where MJ did the back up, except at the time I didnt realize it was him) :oops:
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Recap..you will need to read from the bottom up.
1. Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ? about 3 hours ago via web
2. What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it about 13 hours ago via web
3. My heart goes out to Peter Lopez 's family about 15 hours ago via web
4. I guess I'll have to play Pagliacci about 16 hours ago via web
5. " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway " 3:28 PM May 2nd via web
6. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king about 6 hours ago via web
7. Revelation 18 about 10 hours ago via web
8. Don't let love blind you, all is SPELLed out for you about 13 hours ago via web
9. http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw (http://tinyurl.com/2vb9udw) about 14 hours ago via web
10. http://tinyurl.com/385jula (http://tinyurl.com/385jula) about 14 hours ago via web
11. What news did you miss on june 25th? about 22 hours ago via web
12. Use your common sense 2:35 PM May 1st via web
13. Southpark has lots of clues 2:14 PM May 1st via web
14. "Don't worry, I won't hurt you, I only want to have some fun " 2:07 PM May 1st via web
15. Southpark 8:07 1:22 PM May 1st via web
16. Heaven is here 11:32 PM Apr 30th via web
17. I don't like taking my bows under the stage 10:38 PM Apr 30th via web
18. 1+1+1=3 4:20 PM Apr 30th via web
19. If you´d do a background check, you´d find out who I really am 10:09 AM Apr 30th via web
20. The rehearsals are going great !! 5:36 AM Apr 30th via web
21. Big thanks to Aphrodite Jones for doing me justice 12:12 AM Apr 30th via web
22. 1984 2:13 PM Apr 29th via web
23. Lak 'ech Ala k'in 1:10 PM Apr 29th via web
24. Jason P was not my lover 11:02 AM Apr 29th via web
25. Never become a lemming !! 9:42 AM Apr 29th via web
26. It's the real thing 9:06 AM Apr 29th via web
27. Exodus 32 6:56 AM Apr 29th via web
28. egnahc a ekam neht dna flesruoy ta kool a ekaT 6:03 AM Apr 29th via web
29. She's ok and traveling 5:54 AM Apr 29th via web
30. Let s pray for Elizabeth, I really hope she is treated right at Cedars 10:58 PM Apr 28th via web
31. Can't wait 4 july 3:49 PM Apr 28th via web
32. I'm so happy you all still beLIEve, please spread the L.O.V.E. 3:34 PM Apr 28th via web
33. The kids are allright now 3:23 PM Apr 28th via web
34. Doing it all for L.O.V.E. 2:55 PM Apr 28th via web
WOW when you read it upside down very interesting! 8-)
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Just ran in to an odd twitter account, is it a coincidence that this started today?
(remember the youtube vid stating the comeback on 28 of April)
And it is a full moon. (thriller ?)
You never know, I ll follow him just in case ........
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
hahah i don't know but i love the name. we first had "this is it" then "this is not it" now "this is almost it"
i wonder when michael finally comes back if someone will start a blog or twitter with "this is it right now"
And don't forget "This Is Also It" :)
Edit: by the way, anyone notice who that twitter account is following? Everyone that is close to Michael plus Ashton Kutcher? Also, Harvey Levin is the first on the list - not sure if that means anything as I'm not real familiar with how Twitter works.
Edit again: This is the name at the top of the page. I know anyone can put this but...
* Name Michael Jackson
* Location Neverland
* Web http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/home (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/home)
* Bio You 're gonna meet the man you never knew
30 Following 10 Followers 0 Listed
hmm
he uses the official website * Web http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/home (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/home)
I don't know how to explain that, but wouldn't Sony make some trouble about usin' the official website without permission?
I hope you know how I mean that...
But I don't know what to make of these tweets...especially the southpark tweets :?
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latest tweet... "You wear a mask for so long, you forget who you were beneath it."
I believe that's a quote from the movie "Vendetta", correct?
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latest tweet... "You wear a mask for so long, you forget who you were beneath it."
I believe that's a quote from the movie "Vendetta", correct?
Yep correct
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Hey, y'all, anyone think This is almost it, is a related source to TIAI or is it just another one of those accounts? Not to be rude but I have been following this thread quite frequently recently with the frequent redirects and have been following this account on Twitter but I am not entirely sure? :oops: :oops: :lol: :? :?:
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Maybe it's TS??
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..i just wonder why many topics about people claiming to be or to know something about Michael have been locked...and not this one...I don't mean that this has to be locked,but why other discussion about other people or informers have been locked? :?
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Hey, y'all, anyone think This is almost it, is a related source to TIAI or is it just another one of those accounts? Not to be rude but I have been following this thread quite frequently recently with the frequent redirects and have been following this account on Twitter but I am not entirely sure? :oops: :oops: :lol: :? :?:
Good question - let's hope we can find the answer. Maybe they will start answering each others redirects.
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I was starting to think the same thing....TIAI = TIAI...and if it's not the same source, then maybe the first TIAI should keep an eye on their new "competition"....I find the Twitter version to be a lot more exciting and fast-paced! But seriously, wouldn't it be fantastic to find out that Michael is actually behind BOTH? (heehee)
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Hey, y'all, anyone think This is almost it, is a related source to TIAI or is it just another one of those accounts? Not to be rude but I have been following this thread quite frequently recently with the frequent redirects and have been following this account on Twitter but I am not entirely sure? :oops: :oops: :lol: :? :?:
Good question - let's hope we can find the answer. Maybe they will start answering each others redirects.
LOLz, I'd like to see that! For realz. :lol: :lol: 8-) I am very curious about the answer too! :geek:
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I was starting to think the same thing....TIAI = TIAI...and if it's not the same source, then maybe the first TIAI should keep an eye on their new "competition"....I find the Twitter version to be a lot more exciting and fast-paced! But seriously, wouldn't it be fantastic to find out that Michael is actually behind BOTH? (heehee)
It would be fantastic, wouldn't it? :D
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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king~
A song by Six Feet Deep
Lyrics~
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
The masses buy the lie, and swallow everything.
But if ever entered such a man with eyes of a pair,
would he rule the land as new found king?
or would he be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
In the mind of a child, the line's thin between right and wrong.
But give it time, I'm sure things will change before long.
But if ever a child grows up strong, with a mind of his own,
will he sing out loud the blind man's song?
or will he be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
For Your sake, I'll endure this.
Now I lay these broken arrows at Your feet,
take them from me, see this blind man on his knees.
In the land of the blind, I can't seem to find my place.
For so long I've closed my eyes,
and hoped no one feels the tears on my face.
But if ever I arrive one day, with throat dry as sand,
will you greet me with a warm embrace?
or will I be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
For Your name, I'll endure this.
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"You wear a mask for so long, you forget who you were beneath it".
Quote from the Movie "V for Vendetta"
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"You wear a mask for so long, you forget who you were beneath it".
Quote from the Movie "V for Vendetta"
SURGICAL MASK???
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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king~
A song by Six Feet Deep
Lyrics~
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
The masses buy the lie, and swallow everything.
But if ever entered such a man with eyes of a pair,
would he rule the land as new found king?
or would he be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
In the mind of a child, the line's thin between right and wrong.
But give it time, I'm sure things will change before long.
But if ever a child grows up strong, with a mind of his own,
will he sing out loud the blind man's song?
or will he be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
For Your sake, I'll endure this.
Now I lay these broken arrows at Your feet,
take them from me, see this blind man on his knees.
In the land of the blind, I can't seem to find my place.
For so long I've closed my eyes,
and hoped no one feels the tears on my face.
But if ever I arrive one day, with throat dry as sand,
will you greet me with a warm embrace?
or will I be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
For Your name, I'll endure this.
Wow, great find. This really sounds like Michael to me. I don't even need to highlight anything as it all fits. Michael has surely endured so much for us. He also has a pair of fully functioning eyes. One for the analysis of how our world is run and the second to see and communicate from his soul. As we learn to see, he will find his place and we will certainly greet him with a very warm embrace. :)
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Latest tweet:
I'm only laughing on the outside, my smile is just skin deep. If you could see inside I'm really crying, you might join me for a weep.
Quote from the Joker in Batman, 1989.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Batman_(1989_film (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Batman_(1989_film))
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Ok, so who is this joker? :lol:
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Believe777....you are so right....these lyrics could have been written about Michael....they fit him to a tee!.....hmmmmmmmmm.....
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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king~
A song by Six Feet Deep
Lyrics~
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
The masses buy the lie, and swallow everything.
But if ever entered such a man with eyes of a pair,
would he rule the land as new found king?
or would he be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
In the mind of a child, the line's thin between right and wrong.
But give it time, I'm sure things will change before long.
But if ever a child grows up strong, with a mind of his own,
will he sing out loud the blind man's song?
or will he be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
For Your sake, I'll endure this.
Now I lay these broken arrows at Your feet,
take them from me, see this blind man on his knees.
In the land of the blind, I can't seem to find my place.
For so long I've closed my eyes,
and hoped no one feels the tears on my face.
But if ever I arrive one day, with throat dry as sand,
will you greet me with a warm embrace?
or will I be...
Hit by a thousand stones,
backed by two thousand angry fists.
Hit by flying, blind arrows.
For Your name, I'll endure this.
Wow - this is really profound.
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Latest tweet:
I'm only laughing on the outside, my smile is just skin deep. If you could see inside I'm really crying, you might join me for a weep.
Quote from the Joker in Batman, 1989.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Batman_(1989_film (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Batman_(1989_film))
i tweeted back: why so serious?
:mrgreen:
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Have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?... :twisted: ;)
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Latest tweet:
I'm only laughing on the outside, my smile is just skin deep. If you could see inside I'm really crying, you might join me for a weep.
Quote from the Joker in Batman, 1989.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Batman_(1989_film (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Batman_(1989_film))
i tweeted back: why so serious?
:mrgreen:
awww :( this joker is BAD!
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# Are you a soldier of L.O.V.E.? about 1 hour ago via web
This goes right along with the TIAI redirect for today!!! How awesome is that? If you aren't signed up yet to be a Soldier of L.O.V.E. I think they are still recruiting :)
Okay, this makes me really believe that TIAI and TIAI are definitely connected. Jermaine?
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makes me think of the new song by sade - soldier of love
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newest Tweet
I signed a deal with Akashic records
about 1 hour ago via web
In reality the Akashic Record is a storage in consciousness that is everywhere present. Just as with the DNA genetic code being present everywhere in your physical body, it could be read from any extract from your body.
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newest Tweet
I signed a deal with Akashic records
about 1 hour ago via web
In reality the Akashic Record is a storage in consciousness that is everywhere present. Just as with the DNA genetic code being present everywhere in your physical body, it could be read from any extract from your body.
And if you Google the words akashic records michael jackson, the first link result is this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IEK0ierjb1AJ:parabook.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/how-to-make-changes-in-your-current-life-with-the-akashic-records/+akashic+records+michael+jackson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Scroll down right side of page to find "Michael Jackson". Interesting...
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newest Tweet
I signed a deal with Akashic records
about 1 hour ago via web
In reality the Akashic Record is a storage in consciousness that is everywhere present. Just as with the DNA genetic code being present everywhere in your physical body, it could be read from any extract from your body.
And if you Google the words akashic records michael jackson, the first link result is this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IEK0ierjb1AJ:parabook.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/how-to-make-changes-in-your-current-life-with-the-akashic-records/+akashic+records+michael+jackson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Scroll down right side of page to find "Michael Jackson". Interesting...
LOL! :lol:
THAT YOUTUBE VIDEO IS SO WEIRD!!!
I CAN´T IMAGINE THIS IS POSIBLE! THIS MUST BE A JOKE!
THIS IS TO MUCH FOR ME!
LOL! :lol:
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Use your common sense
2:35 PM May 1st via web
Google the words "common sense Michael Jackson" and you get this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:q4rHTAModDUJ:commonsenseliving.com/thoughts/michael-jackson-lies-wild-video+common+sense+michael+jackson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Check out the video link, "Michael Jackson Lies". It's a fitness guy talking about MJ and media lies. MJ is everywhere!!! lol
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Use your common sense
2:35 PM May 1st via web
Google the words "common sense Michael Jackson" and you get this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:q4rHTAModDUJ:commonsenseliving.com/thoughts/michael-jackson-lies-wild-video+common+sense+michael+jackson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Check out the video link, "Michael Jackson Lies". It's a fitness guy talking about MJ and media lies. MJ is everywhere!!! lol
And the fitness guy is running a 4th of July special! :lol:
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
thisisalmostit
The man we never knew...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVaGHgS-vP8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVaGHgS-vP8).
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newest Tweet
I signed a deal with Akashic records
about 1 hour ago via web
In reality the Akashic Record is a storage in consciousness that is everywhere present. Just as with the DNA genetic code being present everywhere in your physical body, it could be read from any extract from your body.
And if you Google the words akashic records michael jackson, the first link result is this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IEK0ierjb1AJ:parabook.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/how-to-make-changes-in-your-current-life-with-the-akashic-records/+akashic+records+michael+jackson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Scroll down right side of page to find "Michael Jackson". Interesting...
this is really awesome. i read the first post on the 'michael jackson lives' link and it said that the person was contacted by 'michael's people', not indicating that it was some sort of channeling (i kinda still refuse to believe in that). and the latest post was one about being threatened.
does 'i signed a deal with akashic records' now mean that the deal is to feed them information? and that what's written there is the simple truth?
here's the link:
http://michaellives.tk/ (http://michaellives.tk/)
:mrgreen:
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
when you go on youtube and click the 'making of' they refer to a movie script based on a michael birch book called 'they cage the animals at night'. it's said that michael co-wrote the script...i'll be looking out for that, my gut tells me so...
:mrgreen:
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
when you go on youtube and click the 'making of' they refer to a movie script based on a michael birch book called 'they cage the animals at night'. it's said that michael co-wrote the script...i'll be looking out for that, my gut tells me so...
:mrgreen:
http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... r-saw-1003 (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003)
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I am very confused. I tought This is almost is is Believer777.
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
when you go on youtube and click the 'making of' they refer to a movie script based on a michael birch book called 'they cage the animals at night'. it's said that michael co-wrote the script...i'll be looking out for that, my gut tells me so...
:mrgreen:
http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... r-saw-1003 (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003)
I found part of "They Cage the Animals at Night" online:
http://www.amazon.com/They-Cage-Animals ... 145&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/They-Cage-Animals-Night-Signet/dp/0451159411/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1273091145&sr=1-1)
I'm reading it now. Worth buying imho.
L.O.V.E to all
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I am very confused. I tought This is almost is is Believer777.
Who is Believer777? Do they have a twitter account? If you know of one, could you link it please? Thank you. :D
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I meant believer 777 of this forum :)
I don´t know why I thought that :?
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That's okay. :)
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I meant believer 777 of this forum :)
I don´t know why I thought that :?
I presume you are meaning me. If you do remember I'd like to know.
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Background change.
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
I feel this is a rare pearl of independent cinema -never heard of it before...
The world is depending on you, I am depending on you!
- I`ve bought all your albums -
God bless you!
Definitely a Must-See for me! 8-) :P :lol:
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Ok, so the background changed.....
In the first background there were two MJ's, and also in this second one......Hmmmm..... :?
I haven't believed in the two MJ theory, but now i'm a bit confused, i mean, i don't think he has/had a twin, but he could have/had an identical double who looks like him like 99% ???? On the previous background they both looked the same, i couldn't tell wich of them is the real Michael, you guys?
This one is just a mirror right? But it refers to doubles....
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Ok, so the background changed.....
In the first background there were two MJ's, and also in this second one......Hmmmm..... :?
I haven't believed in the two MJ theory, but now i'm a bit confused, i mean, i don't think he has/had a twin, but he could have/had an identical double who looks like him like 99% ???? On the previous background they both looked the same, i couldn't tell wich of them is the real Michael, you guys?
This one is just a mirror right? But it refers to doubles....
the first one was the model/ mannequin used for 'leave me alone', where mike is built into the amusement park ('tied' into the rollercoaster) and breaks free at the end of the film.
this pic now looks like from the same era. just like the memorial/ funeral pics, all late 80s. that is one thing i don't get. that exclusiveness to refer to only that time. not even the 'dangerous' or 'history' times were pulled out, when he was touring the world, only the late 80s or kiddie-pics...weird...even if that was mikes prime as a performer, it is called 'celebration of LIFE', not just one decade or so...good point that so far, always 2 mikes are shown, even in the profile pic. one as a kid and one on the mask.
:mrgreen:
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
when you go on youtube and click the 'making of' they refer to a movie script based on a michael birch book called 'they cage the animals at night'. it's said that michael co-wrote the script...i'll be looking out for that, my gut tells me so...
:mrgreen:
http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... r-saw-1003 (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003)
'page loading error'...hmmm... :?
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@ truthseeker (quote function won't work...who's messin' with this site???)
this reminds me strongly of dave pelzer's story 'a child called IT', although dave was experiencing abuse by his own mother. we always think that in 'our society' such abuse isn't happening. but it still is, to this day. maybe this notion is to remind us to keep our eyes open, see things that might be wrong, lend a helping hand to those around us. we don't have to go to other countries to see children suffering and to be able to do something against it. like mike...not only did he donate like no other, he also gave the kids from the 'neighborhood' (if you can apply that to a 3.000 acre ranch...) a helping hand and took care of them, if only to offer them a fun day at neverland.
i take that as another message, mike! :mrgreen:
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@tabloidburn I read an excerpt on Amazon of Dave Pelzer's book. Sounds like it would be really good. I'm gonna have to order both now!
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Latest tweet:
Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
when you go on youtube and click the 'making of' they refer to a movie script based on a michael birch book called 'they cage the animals at night'. it's said that michael co-wrote the script...i'll be looking out for that, my gut tells me so...
:mrgreen:
http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... r-saw-1003 (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003)
'page loading error'...hmmm... :?
I don't know what went wrong with that first link, but I found it again: http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... 017.story# (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#)
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Latest tweet:
Here is my secret. It is very simple: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye.
Thoughts anyone?
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hm I have no idea...
essential.. Maybe the reason for this? We can't see the reason? I really don't know...
Next problem is: ENglish is not my mother tongue so i think I translate it wrong
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I answered my own question....this is what Google shows for that quote:http://www.wowzone.com/fox.htm
It's from The Little Prince....a favorite book of MJ's!
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Miss Cast Away
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395669/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_ ... land_Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls)
http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside ... onaire.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/07/inside-michael-jacksons-final-film-miss-cast-away-co-starring-joe-millionaire.php)
The last link from movieline is very interesting.
when you go on youtube and click the 'making of' they refer to a movie script based on a michael birch book called 'they cage the animals at night'. it's said that michael co-wrote the script...i'll be looking out for that, my gut tells me so...
:mrgreen:
http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... r-saw-1003 (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003)
'page loading error'...hmmm... :?
I don't know what went wrong with that first link, but I found it again: http://www.billboard.com/news/the-micha ... 017.story# (http://www.billboard.com/news/the-michael-jackson-movie-you-never-saw-1003996017.story#)
:mrgreen: my gut is right!!! we should be looking for the burch-movie, not miss cast away! miss cast away is already finshed, the other one is still coming!
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@tabloidburn I read an excerpt on Amazon of Dave Pelzer's book. Sounds like it would be really good. I'm gonna have to order both now!
make sure you got a hospital supply of kleenex. dave pelzer's story WILL make you cry...it's gruesome what he went through as a child, unbelievable. i have only utter admiration for this guy and how he turned his life around.
there's also an interview on the oprah show with him on youtube. truly one of the most remarkable people i've seen in a long time.
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I answered my own question....this is what Google shows for that quote:http://www.wowzone.com/fox.htm
It's from The Little Prince....a favorite book of MJ's!
Yepp, i remember i read it when i was a little child, i should read it again, The Little Prince is amazing :P
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The Little Prince is not a book for children. It is meant for adults and all searching hearts.
[It was then that the fox appeared.
"Good morning," said the fox.
"Good morning," the little prince responded politely, although when he turned around he saw nothing.
"I am right here," the voice said, "under the apple tree."
Fox
"Who are you?" asked the little prince, and added, "You are very pretty to look at."
"I am a fox," the fox said.
"Come and play with me," proposed the little prince. "I am so unhappy."
"I cannot play with you," the fox said. "I am not tamed."
"Ah! Please excuse me," said the little prince.
But, after some thought, he added:
"What does that mean--'tame'?"
"You do not live here," said the fox. "What is it that you are looking for?"
"I am looking for men," said the little prince. "What does that mean--'tame'?"
"Men," said the fox. "They have guns, and they hunt. It is very disturbing. They also raise chickens. These are their only interests. Are you looking for chickens?"
"No," said the little prince. "I am looking for friends. What does that mean--'tame'?"
"It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. It means to establish ties."
"'To establish ties'?"
"Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you, I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world . . ."
"I am beginning to understand," said the little prince. "There is a flower . . . I think that she has tamed me . . ."
"It is possible," said the fox. "On the Earth one sees all sorts of things."
"Oh, but this is not on the Earth!" said the little prince.
The fox seemed perplexed, and very curious.
"On another planet?"
"Yes."
"Are there hunters on that planet?"
"No."
"Ah, that is interesting! Are there chickens?"
"No."
"Nothing is perfect," sighed the fox.
But he came back to his idea.
"My life is very monotonous," the fox said. "I hunt chickens; men hunt me. All the chickens are just alike, and all the men are just alike. And, in consequence, I am a little bored. But if you tame me, it will be as if the sun came to shine on my life. I shall know the sound of a step that will be different from all the others. Other steps send me hurrying back underneath the ground. Yours will call me, like music, out of my burrow. And then look: you see the grain-fields down yonder? I do not eat bread. Wheat is of no use to me. The wheat fields have nothing to say to me. And that is sad. But you have hair that is the color of gold. Think how wonderful that will be when you have tamed me! The grain, which is also golden, will bring me back the thought of you. And I shall love to listen to the wind in the wheat . . ."
The fox gazed at the little prince, for a long time.
"Please--tame me!" he said.
"I want to, very much," the little prince replied. "But I have not much time. I have friends to discover, and a great many things to understand."
"One only understands the things that one tames," said the fox. "Men have no more time to understand anything. They buy things all ready made at the shops. But there is no shop anywhere where one can buy friendship, and so men have no friends any more. If you want a friend, tame me . . ."
"What must I do, to tame you?" asked the little prince.
"You must be very patient," replied the fox. "First you will sit down at a little distance from me--like that--in the grass. I shall look at you out of the corner of my eye, and you will say nothing. Words are the source of misunderstandings. But you will sit a little closer to me, every day . . ."
The next day the little prince came back.
"It would have been better to come back at the same hour," said the fox. "If, for example, you come at four o'clock in the afternoon, then at three o'clock I shall begin to be happy. I shall feel happier and happier as the hour advances. At four o'clock, I shall already be worrying and jumping about. I shall show you how happy I am! But if you come at just any time, I shall never know at what hour my heart is to be ready to greet you . . . One must observe the proper rites . . ."
"What is a rite?" asked the little prince.
"Those also are actions too often neglected," said the fox. "They are what make one day different from other days, one hour from other hours. There is a rite, for example, among my hunters. Every Thursday they dance with the village girls. So Thursday is a wonderful day for me! I can take a walk as far as the vineyards. But if the hunters danced at just any time, every day would be like every other day, and I should never have any vacation at all."
So the little prince tamed the fox. And when the hour of his departure drew near--
"Ah," said the fox, "I shall cry."
"It is your own fault," said the little prince. "I never wished you any sort of harm; but you wanted me to tame you . . ."
"Yes, that is so," said the fox.
"But now you are going to cry!" said the little prince.
"Yes, that is so," said the fox.
"Then it has done you no good at all!"
"It has done me good," said the fox, "because of the color of the wheat fields." And then he added:
"Go and look again at the roses. You will understand now that yours is unique in all the world. Then come back to say goodbye to me, and I will make you a present of a secret."
The little prince went away, to look again at the roses.
"You are not at all like my rose," he said. "As yet you are nothing. No one has tamed you, and you have tamed no one. You are like my fox when I first knew him. He was only a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But I have made him my friend, and now he is unique in all the world."
And the roses were very much embarassed.
"You are beautiful, but you are empty," he went on. "One could not die for you. To be sure, an ordinary passerby would think that my rose looked just like you--the rose that belongs to me. But in herself alone she is more important than all the hundreds of you other roses: because it is she that I have watered; because it is she that I have put under the glass globe; because it is she that I have sheltered behind the screen; because it is for her that I have killed the caterpillars (except the two or three that we saved to become butterflies); because it is she that I have listened to, when she grumbled, or boasted, or ever sometimes when she said nothing. Because she is my rose.
And he went back to meet the fox.
"Goodbye," he said.
"Goodbye," said the fox. "And now here is my secret, a very simple secret: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
"What is essential is invisible to the eye," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember.
"It is the time you have wasted for your rose that makes your rose so important."
"It is the time I have wasted for my rose--" said the little prince, so that he would be sure to remember.
"Men have forgotten this truth," said the fox. "But you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed. You are responsible for your rose . . ."
"I am responsible for my rose," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember. ]
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When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye
this is what i found interesting regarding that. refers to akashic records and prince!
this tweeter is VERY intersting, imo! :mrgreen:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/family-name- ... rince.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/family-name-lyrics-prince.html)
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" When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye " 25 minutes ago via web
This is the source:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/prince/family-name.html
Family Name Lyrics
Artist: Prince
Album: The Rainbow Children
Welcome. U have just accessed the Akashic Records Genetic Information
Division. This program is required 4 those wishing 2 obtain a marriage
blessing from The Kingdom. When u wish 2 begin this program, place ur right
hand on the scanner and tightly clench up ur buttcheeks as u might feel a
slight electrical shock. Please select the race history u desire. U have
selected African-American. This is your history:
First of all, the term "black and white" is a fallacy. It simply is another
way of saying "this or that". Let's examine the term "this or that" in its
ultimate form which is: "this" means the truth or "that which is resistant 2
it. When a minority realizes its similarities on a higher level- not just
"black"- but PEOPLE OF COLOR, and higher still "INDIGENOUS", and even higher
still, "FROM THE TRIBE OF.", and yet higher- the "RAINBOW CHILDREN". When
this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye.
This action will cause a Reaction or Resistance. The source
of this Resistance must b banished as it is in direct conflict with the
initial action. It cannot be assimilated, 4 its very nature is resistance.
In other words, ONE CANNOT SERVE 2 MASTERS. U r either "this" or "that"
which is not "this".
End of part one. 2 continue, select the program Family Name and type in the
current government name u wish history on.
(London, England sometime in the early 1600s)
"We have the God-given right 2 run out of our colonies anyone who does not
bow down 2 our law. Hear, hear?"
"Come on, come on keep it moving here. What's your name boy?"
"Abu Cah"
"Well it ain't now; it's Tom Lynch."
Mirror, mirror what u see?Have I still got those dark clouds over me?
Or am I really feeling what I feel?The last days of the Devil's Deal
Mirror, what u see?
Devil, devil what u know?/U been here since 1914, but now u got 2 go
U been hidin' behind corporate eyes
U wanna war, but u can't fight/Devil, u got 2 go
U might say, "what u mad about?"/But u still got ur Family Name
Pleased 2 meet u, Mr. Rosenbloom/I'll b John Blackwell just the same
What's ur Family Name?
Teacher, teacher what u say?/Did we really come over in a boat?
Did it really go down that way?/Or did I arrive b4 and ruin Thanksgiving Day?
Teacher, what u say?
Preacher, preacher is it true?/That Jesus wants me 2 give my money 2 the likes of u?
Ride around in ur Lexus Coupe/Drive us 2 the cleaners in a pinstripe suit
Preacher, that ain't truth!
U might say, "what u mad about?/But u still got ur Family Name
Pleased 2 meet u, Mr. Pearlman/U can call me Clay. can I play?
People, people what's ur name?/Maybe we should start all over
Let everybody get in the game/Put up a one-gloved fist
Make a sound, Violet Brown
U might say "what u mad about?"/But u still got ur Family name
Pleased 2 meet u Mr. Goldstruck.
We found this tape in the Akashic records. This is Thomas Jefferson:
"My fellow Americans, if there is a just God, we're gonna pay 4 this!"
"Black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics will
b able 2 join hands in the words of the old Negro spiritual:
"free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last!"
MJ wore a thin glove on his right hand, almost invisible when he raised his hand to a fist at O2.
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@ grace:
my link goes to the same one...check this part of the lyrics out:
(...)
LET EVERYBODY GET IN THE GAME
PUT UP A ONE GLOVED FIST
MAKE A SOUND, (VIOLET BROWN)
(...)
now, anyone knwo 'someone' who wears ONE GLOVE? 8-)
i also tweeted that back...hehe...i'm teasin' this one! :mrgreen:
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It's interesting but to me this person "sounds" like a HOAXER : I don't mean "hoaxer" like he is a fake, but hoaxer in the way of "someone who wants to create mystery out of nothing/someone who wants to take control when he is not the leader"...I mean, what he twitt IS interesting, but the way he twitt, the way he talks, there is something disturbing around this person. I don't feel "good vibes" when reading it.
I don't know why, but I just feel it's not a good person. I just hope I'm wrong but I really feel bad about reading him, also his links are interesting.
It's just my feelings about this ! But even if it's Michael, I won't change my mind and still think it's a weird way to talk. Sorry Mike ! You are no good vibes to me :lol:
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Why would I play the Milllenium Dome?
(below is a partial excerpt from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome)
This article is about the Dome's use as a Millennium exhibition. For its post-redevelopment use as an entertainment district, see The O2 (London).
Millennium Dome
The Millennium Dome, often referred to simply as The Dome, is the original name of a large dome-shaped building, originally used to house the Millennium Experience, a major exhibition celebrating the beginning of the third millennium. Located on the Greenwich Peninsula in South East London, England, the exhibition opened to the public on 1 January 2000 and ran until 31 December 2000. The project and exhibition was the subject of considerable political controversy as it failed to attract the number of visitors anticipated, leading to recurring financial problems.
While all of the original exhibition and associated complex has since been demolished, the canopy or shell of the dome still exists, and it is now a key exterior feature of the The O2 The Prime Meridian passes the western edge of the Dome.
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This hoaxer is a European person with a family and a job IMHO, considering the time patterns of the tweets.
He / she is tweeting either before work, at lunch time, early afternoon or late at night.
I don't overly like it when people pretend to be someone they are not.
We have seen too many fakers already.
And again some are so easily falling for this person and confessing how much they love her / him.
The tweets are interesting but nothing new in fact.
All of this was discussed already last fall. Maybe some is new to new hoaxers.
But the Southpark episode e.g. was intensely discussed on MJHD and I cried tears of laughter to be honest. Nice how MJ participated in a cartoon about himself, btw.
Smile.
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@Grace, with love and respect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jeffersons_(South_Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jeffersons_(South_Park))
"The Jeffersons" is episode 117 of the Comedy Central animated series South Park. It was originally broadcast on April 21, 2004 and has been described as "a howlingly funny assault on Michael Jackson."[1] This is the second time in South Park to feature Kenny speaking audible lines and not wearing his trademark parka. It is episode 117 in the whole series.
[edit]Plot
Mr. Jefferson, a wealthy, eccentric, man-child, and his son Blanket have moved into the Donovans' old residence. Mr. Jefferson's job is never revealed but he says he's retired. When the boys find out that Mr. Jefferson has arcade games, amusement rides and a small zoo at his house, they spend a lot of time hanging out with Blanket. Blanket tells Kyle that he doesn't have a mother, but was made in a laboratory. Kyle in particular becomes concerned for Blanket, as his father is too busy being a child to look after him properly. Cartman defends Mr. Jefferson, who has told him that he is his best friend, and provides free toys and entertainment. At the police station, the police receive a report that a wealthy black family has purchased a house in South Park with cash. Sergent Yates and his team, confirming Mr. Jefferson's suspicions, plan to take him down, just as they did Kobe Bryant — not because he is guilty but because he is black and wealthier than them.
At night, Mr. Jefferson sneaks over to Stan's house, dressed in a Peter Pan outfit, shortly followed along by Cartman. Kyle also shows up, accompanied by Blanket. Kyle explains to Stan that he found Blanket wandering around alone in his yard, and is startled by Mr. Jefferson's presence. Kyle and Stan implore Mr. Jefferson to go back home, but to no avail: he and Blanket insist that they are afraid to go home due to fears of ghosts. Reluctantly, Stan shares his bed with Kyle, Blanket, Cartman and Mr. Jefferson. Cartman tells Mr. Jefferson how much he admires him and just as the two prepare to kiss, Stan wakes up to only see that he was dreaming about it.
In the morning, Randy and Sharon Marsh are alarmed to find Mr. Jefferson sleeping in their son's bed, but he manages to bribe his way out. The Jeffersons return home as the police, having planted evidence in it the night before, wake up in their squad car. Yates is surprised by Jefferson's appearance, believing that someone made a mistake. He states that he no longer has the stomach for it but vows to continue to frame rich black men only if they are black. After seeing Mr. Jefferson dangle his son out of the window, Kyle realizes they have to get Blanket away from him. Blanket, now traumatized, runs away from his father crying. But Jefferson succeeds in calming him down by being playful, and saying "I got your nose". Blanket happily tries to reciprocate, but instead rips his father's nose clean off.
Mr. Jefferson is on the phone with his plastic surgeon, since he is literally falling apart. In the meantime, the Santa Barbara Police, after revealing their "good police work" in framing him previously, confirm that Mr. Jefferson is the person Yates is looking for. Stan and Kyle dress Kenny up as Blanket in order to sneak the real one out of the house.This is one of the few times where Kenny's face and voice is shown in the series. Jefferson, wearing the Thriller costume, intercepts them and playfully throws Kenny through the ceiling, killing him. The kids are rescued by the cops. While Cartman tries to save Mr. Jefferson from his 'tormentors', Kyle delivers the lesson that he needs to grow up and make a normal life for his son. Realizing he has been missing out on Blanket's childhood, Jefferson plans to give away most of his wealth and get a real job. Seeing that Jefferson will no longer be wealthy, the cops decide to drop the charges, and everybody sings "The Power to Change", to the tune of Michael Jackson's "Heal The World".
[edit]Reception
Amazon.com's official review states Michael Jackson is "portrayed in the episode 'The Jeffersons' not as a child molester, but as an infantile parent who needs to grow up."[2] Maxim magazine states Mr. Jefferson is "a Michael Jackson-like freak"[3], and The National Board of Review's John Gallagher calls this episode "a howlingly funny assault on Michael Jackson."[1] end quote
I seriously doubt that Michael Jackson had any participation in the creation of this cartoon. (see bold print) The Saturday morning cartoon with his brothers, yes. "The Simpson's", yes. But not this one. I didn't find one thing about it funny at all. I cried tears when I watched it, and they weren't tears of laughter. I don't think Michael would involve himself in anything that would hurt his children in any way, or portray himself as neglecting his children or hurting children, since the character portraying Michael kills a child in this episode. But I think there are clues there. (see red print)
Can you provide a link or any other evidence that will prove Michael was involved in making the South Park episode? If you can, I would appreciate it. Thank you. :) If you can, I will offer you the most humble of apologies and admit I was wrong. I can't find anything on the internet that verifies that he was involved.
I don't know Michael personally, and I never say "Michael wouldn't do that" about most things. But this goes against EVERYTHING he believed in. So I do say that this time. I don't think Michael was involved at all. I think it hurt him tremendously, even angered him. They portray him as an unfit parent, and mock his son. They make a mockery out of his concern for his children. True art is not created at the expense of others, and Michael is one of the most (if not THE most) innovative and gifted artists in history.
As for this twitter account: This person tells us to use our common sense. Do the others? No! They are so obviously fake! All they do is scream "I am Michael! I love you more! Let's have a super soaker fight!" in their tweets. This person hasn't done that. They haven't even replied to @s from their followers like most of the fakes have done. And they tweet at different hours, day and night. Even in the middle of the night. And I see no numerous "I love you" messages to this person. Most are asking questions about the tweets, and asking who this person is.
They say time will tell, so I'm just going to sit back and watch this account, and reserve judgement for now until more is revealed. Just like I've done for the last 10 months (especially where CM is involved). 8-)
Somebody pass the popcorn, please. :lol:
L.O.V.E to all
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Ok, so the background changed.....
In the first background there were two MJ's, and also in this second one......Hmmmm..... :?
I haven't believed in the two MJ theory, but now i'm a bit confused, i mean, i don't think he has/had a twin, but he could have/had an identical double who looks like him like 99% ???? On the previous background they both looked the same, i couldn't tell wich of them is the real Michael, you guys?
This one is just a mirror right? But it refers to doubles....
i see 3 michaels actually....
3 theory?
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latest tweet
When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye
this is what i found interesting regarding that. refers to akashic records and prince!
this tweeter is VERY intersting, imo! :mrgreen:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/family-name- ... rince.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/family-name-lyrics-prince.html)
Sorry for backing up, but when I read this the first thing that popped in my mind was:
When this understanding comes [that this is a hoax], the so-called minority [hoax believers] becomes a majority in the wink of an eye. ;)
Yes, this tweeter is VERY interesting, indeed!
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Latest tweet:
Why would I play the Milllenium Dome?
here in my part of the world where this building is we dont say millenium dome we say 02
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Ok, so the background changed.....
In the first background there were two MJ's, and also in this second one......Hmmmm..... :?
I haven't believed in the two MJ theory, but now i'm a bit confused, i mean, i don't think he has/had a twin, but he could have/had an identical double who looks like him like 99% ???? On the previous background they both looked the same, i couldn't tell wich of them is the real Michael, you guys?
This one is just a mirror right? But it refers to doubles....
i see 3 michaels actually....
3 theory?
:D I think it's just really the mirrors, max two MJ's....
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latest tweet
When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye
this is what i found interesting regarding that. refers to akashic records and prince!
this tweeter is VERY intersting, imo! :mrgreen:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/family-name- ... rince.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/family-name-lyrics-prince.html)
Sorry for backing up, but when I read this the first thing that popped in my mind was:
When this understanding comes [that this is a hoax], the so-called minority [hoax believers] becomes a majority in the wink of an eye. ;)
Yes, this tweeter is VERY interesting, indeed!
i kinda took that as self-explanatory. not everybody will research the tweets, so it had to be an obvious message as well. what struck me when googling this one, was the direct reference to the akashic records ('i signed a deal with...') and a couple of tweets later they come up with a musical reference to prince. i believe that prince and mike had somewhat of an 'undercover' friendship. prince always said in interviews that he was 'cool with mike'...so that really got me there.
:mrgreen:
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@Grace, with love and respect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jeffersons_(South_Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jeffersons_(South_Park))
Yes, all of that is fine.
The cartoon is summarizing just all that was published and gossipped about MJ.
It is really worth watching.
Yet it is so absurd and funny in the overcoloured description that one can only laugh.
I am sure MJ had his hands on that since it is so well thought through.
These days we are accepting the even more hair electrifying absurdities of what is going on since June 25 as being the work of MJ.
Art - and cartoons are one medium of public art - is overexaggerating to open blind eyes.
Performance art uses living persons to open blind eyes.
Did we ever truly listen to MJ before June 25?
We are gazing at a "dead" living person and are questioning what we should take out of what we are witnessing.
"sizzling, sizzling, sizzling, the public goes wild and piece after piece..."
This is where Michael and the Jacksons also played a role in comics and cartoons:
http://koolcatshipchicksblog.com/wordpress/2009/06/26/an-animated-tribute-to-michael-jackson/
http://www.billiejean.be/Collection/Michael_Jackson_Devoted_Magazines3.html
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I must say I love this cartoon. I don't like South park because I just don't understand it (it's all about US celebrities, so I miss a lot of "private jokes")
But I don't think it's a bad thing. It's just a cartoon, showing what media REALLY DID. They are not the one to be blamed and I must say that my favorite part is when Michael plays with his son "I stole your nose, I stole your nose ! I stole your -- aaaaahhhh" :lol:
Sorry but it makes me laugh, it's nothing against Michael. It's more laughing about such stupid stories that people believe.
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For those who are not familiar with Annie's theory yet (involving the LAPD), please read it on the old forum:
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/my-theory-when-you-have-eliminated-the-impossible-whatever-remains-however-improbable-must-be-da-troot-t878.htm?
and then watch Southpark episode 8.07 The Jeffersons again.
The specific theory part starts on page 18 of the thread. You should read all. It's worth it.
An eye opening theory. ;-)
The continuation is here:
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/my-theory-when-you-have-eliminated-the-impossible-whatever-remains-however-improbable-must-be-da-troot-continuation-t1503.htm?
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I meant believer 777 of this forum :)
I don´t know why I thought that :?
I presume you are meaning me. If you do remember I'd like to know.
Yes, I thought about you because of this :)
Believe 777 wrote:Thank you, this is a great video Serenitys_Dream. You have put a lot together here.
I look at it this way:-
1, Divine consciousness = right brain
2, Analytical mind that collates data = Left brain
3, Body.
I see this as human evolution, The left and right brain coming together in the human body and bringing divine consciousness to life in human form.
1+1+1=3 Lets come together right now, over me.
And there was an update:
1+1+1=3
4:20 PM Apr 30th via web http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
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@ Gema, thankyou for explaining but this has no real basis for thinking it's me. I guessed this and replied on the dualism thread. I posted this after it was tweeted on thisisalmostit and it is a well known MJ line. The last thing I want is for anyone to think I'm playing games. I would never pretend to be somebody I'm not, let alone fool with people. Please be careful when naming names, it can cause problems. I hope this is cleared up now. :)
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@ Gema, thankyou for explaining but this has no real basis for thinking it's me. I guessed this and replied on the dualism thread. I posted this after it was tweeted on thisisalmostit and it is a well known MJ line. The last thing I want is for anyone to think I'm playing games. I would never pretend to be somebody I'm not, let alone fool with people. Please be careful when naming names, it can cause problems. I hope this is cleared up now. :)
Sure hun, my apologies. I didn´t meant to cause caos. I am very open and just talked my thoughts out. Pls, forgive me. Hugs.
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@ Gema, thankyou for explaining but this has no real basis for thinking it's me. I guessed this and replied on the dualism thread. I posted this after it was tweeted on thisisalmostit and it is a well known MJ line. The last thing I want is for anyone to think I'm playing games. I would never pretend to be somebody I'm not, let alone fool with people. Please be careful when naming names, it can cause problems. I hope this is cleared up now. :)
Sure hun, my apologies. I didn´t meant to cause caos. I am very open and just talked my thoughts out. Pls, forgive me. Hugs.
No problem Gema, I know your intentions were good. ;) Hugs back to you. :)
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"Why would I play the Millenium Dome?" Maybe it's because of the "rivalry" again:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... -over.html (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OKBiaV0Oua4J:aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
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"Why would I play the Millenium Dome?" Maybe it's because of the "rivalry" again:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... -over.html (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OKBiaV0Oua4J:aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
:shock: awesome find!!! did you do the highlighting or did it always appear like that?
when clicking your link, it says that it is a snapshot of a page from April 26, 2010...that would mean it was prepared to appear like that??? and someone created that snapshot/link to be pulled up??? :shock:
this is the publisher: Copyright © 2010, African American Environmentalist Association. All Rights Reserved.
(does that fit mike? hell yeah!!!)
my gut is killin' me right now...in a good way... :mrgreen:
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"Why would I play the Millenium Dome?" Maybe it's because of the "rivalry" again:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... -over.html (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OKBiaV0Oua4J:aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
:shock: awesome find!!! did you do the highlighting or did it always appear like that?
when clicking your link, it says that it is a snapshot of a page from April 26, 2010...that would mean it was prepared to appear like that??? and someone created that snapshot/link to be pulled up??? :shock:
this is the publisher: Copyright © 2010, African American Environmentalist Association. All Rights Reserved.
(does that fit mike? hell yeah!
my gut is killin' me right now...in a good way... :mrgreen:
I think I Googled the words Michael Jackson + Prince + O2. Then, when the links appeared, I chose the "cached" version. This gives the "snapshot" and hilights the key words. I'm trying to find the original link that I chose to see what the "uncached" version says. I'm kind of a novice at all this, so be patient! LOL.
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# Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear about 1 hour ago via web
Below are some other examples of how this phrase is used besides the warning on the side window of a vehicle.
Other uses/Popular Culture
The phrase has been used in many other contexts. Some of them are:
• An album by Confrontation Camp
• Objects in the Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer than They Are, a song by Meat Loaf
• A novel by Katherine Weber.
• A Contemporary Ballet by David Fernandez
• An essay by Elizabeth Perry
• The title of a law review article by Aviam Soifer
• Showing an approach of a Tyrannosaurus Rex in the film Jurassic Park
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Again, re Millenium Dome (O2), look at this interesting article. It seems that Prince was also fond of the number "seven". The plot thickens...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330657,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330657,00.html)
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The phrase Objects in mirror are closer than they appear (or the very similar Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear) is a safety warning.
Didn´t Alice in wonderland say something similar?
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"Why would I play the Millenium Dome?" Maybe it's because of the "rivalry" again:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... -over.html (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OKBiaV0Oua4J:aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
:shock: awesome find!!! did you do the highlighting or did it always appear like that?
when clicking your link, it says that it is a snapshot of a page from April 26, 2010...that would mean it was prepared to appear like that??? and someone created that snapshot/link to be pulled up??? :shock:
this is the publisher: Copyright © 2010, African American Environmentalist Association. All Rights Reserved.
(does that fit mike? hell yeah!
my gut is killin' me right now...in a good way... :mrgreen:
I think I Googled the words Michael Jackson + Prince + O2. Then, when the links appeared, I chose the "cached" version. This gives the "snapshot" and hilights the key words. I'm trying to find the original link that I chose to see what the "uncached" version says. I'm kind of a novice at all this, so be patient! LOL.
I found out how I found the above article on MJ and Prince. This is weird!!! I Googled the words "objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear michael jackson" and on page 2 of my search was the following link:
AAEA Hollywood: It's Michael Jackson vs Prince All Over Again - 1:57pm
24 Mar 2009 ... Michael Jackson is offering his Visionary Boxset, which showcases his finest video .... Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. ...
aaea-la.blogspot.com/.../its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html - Cached - Similar
That is when I chose the cached version. So, the "Millenium Dome" and "Objects in Mirror" clues are both addressed in this article/link. I don't see the see the "Objects" quote anywhere in the article, but is in the google link info above.
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mystery mirror man appears?
just a thought.
http://illusion.scene360.com/art/8454/t ... rs-in-l-a/ (http://illusion.scene360.com/art/8454/the-mysterious-mirror-man-appears-in-l-a/)
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Maybe referring to the twitter background of Michael in the mirror.
Maybe he is closer than he appears :!:
IDK Just a thought
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"Why would I play the Millenium Dome?" Maybe it's because of the "rivalry" again:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... -over.html (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OKBiaV0Oua4J:aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
:shock: awesome find!!! did you do the highlighting or did it always appear like that?
when clicking your link, it says that it is a snapshot of a page from April 26, 2010...that would mean it was prepared to appear like that??? and someone created that snapshot/link to be pulled up??? :shock:
this is the publisher: Copyright © 2010, African American Environmentalist Association. All Rights Reserved.
(does that fit mike? hell yeah!
my gut is killin' me right now...in a good way... :mrgreen:
I think I Googled the words Michael Jackson + Prince + O2. Then, when the links appeared, I chose the "cached" version. This gives the "snapshot" and hilights the key words. I'm trying to find the original link that I chose to see what the "uncached" version says. I'm kind of a novice at all this, so be patient! LOL.
I found out how I found the above article on MJ and Prince. This is weird!!! I Googled the words "objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear michael jackson" and on page 2 of my search was the following link:
AAEA Hollywood: It's Michael Jackson vs Prince All Over Again - 1:57pm
24 Mar 2009 ... Michael Jackson is offering his Visionary Boxset, which showcases his finest video .... Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. ...
aaea-la.blogspot.com/.../its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html - Cached - Similar
That is when I chose the cached version. So, the "Millenium Dome" and "Objects in Mirror" clues are both addressed in this article/link. I don't see the see the "Objects" quote anywhere in the article, but is in the google link info above.
Do you have a link to this? Thanks.
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voiceforthesilent: http://aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its ... -over.html (http://aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
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voiceforthesilent: http://aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its ... -over.html (http://aaea-la.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-michael-jackson-vs-prince-all-over.html)
Thank you so much!! Blessings.
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Tweeted
I just signed a deal with Akashic records
Interesting .... now this is not about "a record deal" at all, its much much more! :shock:
More research needed, but talks about the Book of Life, the time between reincarnation, between lives, "rebirth" could this be the part "prior" to reserection?
I dont know, I just have this feeling this means something? I just remember a clue reference about MJ being in the chapel of assention. Reaching for my straight jacket, padded cell needed! :roll: :?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid ... sAbM3PmcBg (http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=ie7&q=akashic+records+michael+jackson&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7ACPW_en___GB349&redir_esc=&ei=FLTmS961GMursAbM3PmcBg)
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2 Whomever it may concern, u must come 2 ur senses, there are no KINGS on this earth, only PRINCES
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:? what?
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2 Whomever it may concern, u must come 2 ur senses, there are no KINGS on this earth, only PRINCES
More Lyrics from Prince
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I went to my last Prince concertin 1998. Was so dissapointed that I am not in tune with his lyrics anymore ;)
Thanks for the tip.
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i wonder why prince is so frequently quoted and linked to in the first place... :?
and the links seem to be too specific for it to be just anybody tweeting them like that. with the 'objects in the mirror'-tweet and putting that in google you end up with an article referring to michael jackson, prince and the akashic records? and all of those references were in previous tweets...seems very constructed altogether. 'someone' is taking a great effort to make people find that stuff, that's what it looks like.
REALLY cryptic... :mrgreen:
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So cryptic that the Giraffe of my avatar is talking to me right now to make some sense...
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Thisisalmostit's "Bio" states "you're going to meet the man you never knew". With all this Googling of key words from this tweeter's tweets, I would say we are coming across some really cool information about Michael that we might not have known before. Thanks, Thisisalmostit, whoever you are! :)
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i think it is pointing to some big crooked business that should be looked at more closely. as we all know, prince had his own troubles with corporate music business. he should be in the same boat with mike, metaphorically spoken...and from what i've heard from prince in interviews, all this 'rivalry' was all made up in the first place. there was never actually anything between them. and to me, being around at both their primes, there was no competition, either. you could like both, cuz their stuff was different from each other, different sounds, different shows...the media only always 'compared' the two in terms of 'who'd you rather'...total BS! it's just music. period.
this rivalry thing stems from the time when mike's 'bad' short film was made. prince was interviewed about that like 20 years later and said that he was supposed to have the part that wesley snipes then got. then mike would have said to prince 'your butt is mine' and prince said to that: 'i would certainly not have that said to me', so he declined. and i think it was the right decision. prince would have not fit that part well, wesley was the perfect cast for that.
i still think that prince and mike had some kind of friendship and conatct going that we might just not know about. and prince will probably never tell, cuz he's so cool... :mrgreen:
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Right on as usual, Tabloidburn!....in my research, I have seen this concept of pitting artists against one another more than once....the most vivid is example is the Jackson Five Vs. The Osmonds....or how about, The Beatles Vs. The Rolling Stones...this was very likely deliberately done by the music companies....not only for promotion and press, but for psychological control of the artists...to keep them at their mercy...it's still being done today....Carrie Underwood Vs. Taylor Swift...or before them, Britney Spears Vs. Christina Aguilera...if you gave it some thought, there are countless other examples also....so Michael Vs. Prince was an absolutely concocted rivalry, in my opinion...the men are both musical prophets...brilliant...and gifts to the world. MJ and Prince have much in common and I'd like to think it's possible these tweets are hinting at the idea that Prince may be helping Michael accomplish his goals in some way. Keep this in mind....The last time Michael publicly denounced the music business for mistreatment of artists, what happened to him?....Oh Yeah, a little thing that's been called The Trial of the Century...these people play hard ball...it almost worked and it took him quite a while to bounce back from that sweeping blow, but he did....so think about it....if Michael was continuing to stand up them, what would be the next logical consequence?
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Thisisalmostit's "Bio" states "you're going to meet the man you never knew". With all this Googling of key words from this tweeter's tweets, I would say we are coming across some really cool information about Michael that we might not have known before. Thanks, Thisisalmostit, whoever you are! :)
The This is It movie is titled:
"Discover the man you never knew"
Playing with our minds??? OR?
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbx_tln ... _embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbx_tlnFmo&feature=player_embedded#)!
he singing what a fool believes to liz
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Latest tweet:
What a fool beLIEves, I´m lovin´it
6 minutes ago via web
:? :? :?
I'm lovin it makes me think of mcdonalds :lol:
"What A Fool Believes" reminds me of that Doobie Brothers song :lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbx_tln ... _embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbx_tlnFmo&feature=player_embedded#)!
he singing what a fool believes to liz
So, could he be connecting Liz in the equation?
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Fan is short for fanatic -- I found this article. It's a nice piece and a reminder why we are all still hanging around here!
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/148439 ... hael.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1484391/20040115/jackson_michael.jhtml)
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I still think there's something about this account :? Still don't know what...It looks like someone that has nothing to do with MJ, but just try to "open our minds" don't know for what purpose. If it's Michael, which I'm really not sure, it's a very private Michael trying to teach us in a very special way. Anyway, it looks like someone trying hard to get us where he wants.
I don't know if it's a good one trying to show us the road to follow, or if it's someone trying to fool us just tu show us he can do what he wants with our minds, driving us crazy just for fun with useless clues.
Anyway, I could never trust someone I never saw...I look at what he/she twitts, but I'm still having a strange feeling about him/her. A kind of "natural distrust", but still don't know if it's about the way he twitts, or the account itself.
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I still think there's something about this account :? Still don't know what...It looks like someone that has nothing to do with MJ, but just try to "open our minds" don't know for what purpose. If it's Michael, which I'm really not sure, it's a very private Michael trying to teach us in a very special way. Anyway, it looks like someone trying hard to get us where he wants.
I don't know if it's a good one trying to show us the road to follow, or if it's someone trying to fool us just tu show us he can do what he wants with our minds, driving us crazy just for fun with useless clues.
Anyway, I could never trust someone I never saw...I look at what he/she twitts, but I'm still having a strange feeling about him/her. A kind of "natural distrust", but still don't know if it's about the way he twitts, or the account itself.
Well, at this point nobody can be sure that Thisisalmostit has any connection to Michael, but....Why i think this person isn't fake is, he/she is aware of the existence of the hoax and also the thisisalsoit redirects (otherwise he/she didn't choose that specific name for the twitter account), so for sure there are people who are not MJ fans and aware of the hoax thing, but if you're not a member of any hoax sites, you can't be informed about TIAI site.
It's hard to express my thoughts clearly, but my opinion is, if this person is not Michael or somebody close to him, than why would an MJ fan do this to other fans knowing that he/she is hurting us really bad, cause the things appear on thisisalmostit can't be posted by an outsider i think... :?
Those information are quite useful and interesting, but everybody is hoping that they are from Michael or someone who is in touch with him.
However i know there are much evil people in this world, so never know....
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2 hours ago:
"Consciousness expresses itself through creation"
And that's what i've found:
Consciousness expresses itself through creation. This world we live in is the dance of the creator. Dancers come and go in the twinkling of an eye but the dance lives on. On many an occasion, when I am dancing, I have felt touched by something sacred. In those moments, I felt my spirit soar and become one with everything that exists. I become the stars and the moon. I become the lover and the beloved. I become the victor and the vanquished. I become the master and the slave. I become the singer and the song. I become the knower and the known. I keep on dancing and then, it is the eternal dance of creation. The creator and the creation merge into one wholeness of joy. I keep on dancing— until there is only…the dance.
— Michael Jackson, 1992
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2 hours ago:
"Consciousness expresses itself through creation"
And that's what i've found:
Consciousness expresses itself through creation. This world we live in is the dance of the creator. Dancers come and go in the twinkling of an eye but the dance lives on. On many an occasion, when I am dancing, I have felt touched by something sacred. In those moments, I felt my spirit soar and become one with everything that exists. I become the stars and the moon. I become the lover and the beloved. I become the victor and the vanquished. I become the master and the slave. I become the singer and the song. I become the knower and the known. I keep on dancing and then, it is the eternal dance of creation. The creator and the creation merge into one wholeness of joy. I keep on dancing— until there is only…the dance.
— Michael Jackson, 1992
Wow - I remember hearing him say that in an interview but seeing it in writing is so profound. So, are we being told that this is all Michael's creation?
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2 hours ago:
"Consciousness expresses itself through creation"
And that's what i've found:
Consciousness expresses itself through creation. This world we live in is the dance of the creator. Dancers come and go in the twinkling of an eye but the dance lives on. On many an occasion, when I am dancing, I have felt touched by something sacred. In those moments, I felt my spirit soar and become one with everything that exists. I become the stars and the moon. I become the lover and the beloved. I become the victor and the vanquished. I become the master and the slave. I become the singer and the song. I become the knower and the known. I keep on dancing and then, it is the eternal dance of creation. The creator and the creation merge into one wholeness of joy. I keep on dancing— until there is only…the dance.
— Michael Jackson, 1992
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Yes, this is from his book, "Dancing the Dream". As for who the person is behind it, my guess is that it is the same person/people behind the other TIAI. It seems very intertwined to me. If Michael is alive, could he be behind either or both sites? Possibly. But my feeling about both is that it is NOT someone with evil intentions at all. It is NOT someone who is getting off on messing with hoaxers heads. I think both sites are meant to offer us clues and give us hope. But if I'm wrong about that and the intent behind both sites is evil...well....I guess I don't know ANYTHING about Human Nature then and that's a pretty depressing thought....so I choose HOPE! I still keep going back to the fact that this Twitter account started tweeting on April 28th and that was a date that had been mentioned as Something Big was to start happening....personally, I do feel a crescendo building, don't you?...things are DEFINITELY ratcheting up, Folks...CAN YOU FEEL IT? Peace, y'all!
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So cryptic that the Giraffe of my avatar is talking to me right now to make some sense...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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2 hours ago:
"Consciousness expresses itself through creation"
And that's what i've found:
Consciousness expresses itself through creation. This world we live in is the dance of the creator. Dancers come and go in the twinkling of an eye but the dance lives on. On many an occasion, when I am dancing, I have felt touched by something sacred. In those moments, I felt my spirit soar and become one with everything that exists. I become the stars and the moon. I become the lover and the beloved. I become the victor and the vanquished. I become the master and the slave. I become the singer and the song. I become the knower and the known. I keep on dancing and then, it is the eternal dance of creation. The creator and the creation merge into one wholeness of joy. I keep on dancing— until there is only…the dance.
— Michael Jackson, 1992
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Yes, this is from his book, "Dancing the Dream". As for who the person is behind it, my guess is that it is the same person/people behind the other TIAI. It seems very intertwined to me. If Michael is alive, could he be behind either or both sites? Possibly. But my feeling about both is that it is NOT someone with evil intentions at all. It is NOT someone who is getting off on messing with hoaxers heads. I think both sites are meant to offer us clues and give us hope. But if I'm wrong about that and the intent behind both sites is evil...well....I guess I don't know ANYTHING about Human Nature then and that's a pretty depressing thought....so I choose HOPE! I still keep going back to the fact that this Twitter account started tweeting on April 28th and that was a date that had been mentioned as Something Big was to start happening....personally, I do feel a crescendo building, don't you?...things are DEFINITELY ratcheting up, Folks...CAN YOU FEEL IT? Peace, y'all!
I still have difficulties to listen to someone I never saw/talk to as if it was Gospel...But it's just my own way ;) Anytime someone finds a clue, I need to go and check by myself, try to search for the info on other website, see what can be said by other people in different ways...I never trust "hoax videos" and always try to go and find the original videos/pictures, by myself. I think it's because we have no information about the person behind it, that I don't wish to trust it. Doesn't mean what he says is bad, but just don't want to take it for granted as long as I don't know who it is and what goal they have to do such thing. Call me "High security" :lol:
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We are discovering the Man we never knew.
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What I don´t get is why everyone out there is so cryptic, leading their messages to open ambiguos interpretations with the slogan "you should think by yourself".
Sure, but if the messenger is not doing his job properly, the message will be distorted, then, what´s the point of sending a message at all? Isn´t the prime aim to deliver a message that is suposed to be heard or follow?
I´ll ask my giraffe.....
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i still don't know what to make of these tweets myself. some of them lead to further information that seems a definite clue, now 'thisisalmostit' is reducing to quotes. they might be rare finds but they're still quotes, available to anyone.
it's just the way that things seem to be put together, that puzzles me and leads me to think that this is at least someone who has some profound knowledge and reasons as to why to lead to certain further info. i'm always amazed at how much stuff we all can come up with by just googling one tweet... :?
i go back to my padded cell now... :mrgreen:
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Wait.. I thought only I could hear that giraffe talk. :?
Well you're totally right, but what other way could TIAlsoI lead us in the "right direction"?
Wait.. Now they're tweeting more than once a day?
From: @thisisalmostit
Sent: May 9, 2010 10:51a
Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?
sent via web
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WOW, i honestly confused, could this be really Michael himself?
It makes sense for me..... ;) But i don't wanna hope in something this important and than dissapoint...
Maybe a tini-tiny hope, and if you are who you seems to, than :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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thisisalmostit "People better start looking back: dates, times, names, they better see those coincidences...it's all there for you to see"
about 1 hour ago via web
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WOW, i honestly confused, could this be really Michael himself?
It makes sense for me..... ;) But i don't wanna hope in something this important and than dissapoint...
Maybe a tini-tiny hope, and if you are who you seems to, than :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
I think if there was any hope to have, it would be about this account, but as usual, the more hope, the biggest disappointment :? Anyway, it looks more clever than what we had before about "playing with the kids" "ooh I love you more" and all other fakers.
At least it's someone that has things to say.
I think it's a game he is proposing, you play it or not, you believe it or not. I prefer looking it from backstage to see what will happen. I'm more interested in what this person is trying to do, and what are his personnal motivations to do so.
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What I don´t get is why everyone out there is so cryptic, leading their messages to open ambiguos interpretations with the slogan "you should think by yourself".
Sure, but if the messenger is not doing his job properly, the message will be distorted, then, what´s the point of sending a message at all? Isn´t the prime aim to deliver a message that is suposed to be heard or follow?
I´ll ask my giraffe.....[/quote]
i laughed really hard at that. thanks.
i agree with you. these ambiguous posts by everyone makes your head spin!
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"People better start looking back" sounds a little threatening like or else. Not sure Michael would talk like that. I'm having doubts.
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i think there is a lot of stuff going on right now in terms of speculation, tabloid press is in full throttle again and people don't look to the beginning anymore regarding how this is all constructed. the facts are there and everybody seems to go off on rumors...again...
my answer to that last tweet was: there are no 'coincidences'.
:mrgreen:
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I´ll ask my giraffe.....[/quote]
i laughed really hard at that. thanks.
i agree with you. these ambiguous posts by everyone makes your head spin!
Heeeyy heeeyyy
I always start with the giraffe in the mirror :lol:
Good I made you laugh ;)
From: @thisisalmostit
Sent: May 9, 2010 10:51a
Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?
sent via web
[/quote]
This person does want people to start thinking that he could be MJ :roll:
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I´ll ask my giraffe.....[/quote]
i laughed really hard at that. thanks.
i agree with you. these ambiguous posts by everyone makes your head spin!
Heeeyy heeeyyy
I always start with the giraffe in the mirror :lol:
Good I made you laugh ;)
From: @thisisalmostit
Sent: May 9, 2010 10:51a
Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?
sent via web
This person does want people to start thinking that he could be MJ :roll:[/quote]
yep, you may be right...so..another faker?
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Here are his/her latest tweets:
# Let's broaden our minds about 1 hour ago via web
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"People better start looking back: dates, times, names, they better see those coincidences...it's all there for you to see" about 14 hours ago via web
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Nothing new :roll:
At least is not saying I love you all and quoting MJ books :lol:
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Nothing new :roll:
At least is not saying I love you all and quoting MJ books :lol:
:lol: yeah right....
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Whats with Batman (The Joker) and Prince???
:?
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i think there is a lot of stuff going on right now in terms of speculation, tabloid press is in full throttle again and people don't look to the beginning anymore regarding how this is all constructed. the facts are there and everybody seems to go off on rumors...again...
my answer to that last tweet was: there are no 'coincidences'.
:mrgreen:
I agree with you 100%, tabloidburn! We can get so easily side-tracked with the latest story, that we can lose site of what we already know to be true -- none of this adds up. The latest tweet about keeping an open mind, is important. Closing the mind to new things and information is truly allowing oneself to become ignorant, in the true sense of the word. No red flags have gone up for me yet re this dude.
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thisisalmostit The planets are lining up, we're bringing brighter days. They 're all in line, waiting for you so look for the truth.
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Yeah I believe this person is full of crap. Michael Jacksons "Another part of me lyrics".
Anyone can make up a twitter, go on google and pick out quotes by the millions. :roll:
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The only strange thing about the account itself is the accounts followed. Every single one that is known to be "known by MJ" is followed. No other personal one, no one not related to MJ...And this I think, is weird...
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thisisalmostit The planets are lining up, we're bringing brighter days. They 're all in line, waiting for you so look for the truth.
I hope this isn't it...
2012: Do The Planets Line Up?
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One of the many theories about the phenomenon known as just ‘2012' is that all the planets of our solar system will line up on December 21'st 2012, which coincidentally is also the end of the current cycle in the mysterious Mayan calendar. Apparently this alignment of the planets will lead to one of two things depending on who you ask. Either the beginning of a new age or the destruction of our world! Since the latter option is rather unpleasent, perhaps we should try to find out if the planets line up in 2012!
Some people believe that when the planets of the solar system lines up, it marks the beginning of a new era. The last time the planets were aligned seem to be around 450 years ago, which amazingly coincide with the period in history known as the ‘Age of Enlightenment'. This era produced perhaps more geniuses than any other period of time, dragging humanity out of the dark ages and introducing modern science, astronomy, medicine and liberty. It's safe to say, that had it not been for the Age of Enlightenment thinkers, we would be much worse off. The next planetary alignment should be due really soon, but will the effect be the same? Will the planets line up in 2012 and will it lead to a new golden age for humanity? Astrologers think so. This new era; the Age of Aquarius, will be the pinnacle of human evolution according to them.
A more sinister prediction is that the alignment of the planets will simply lead to the destruction of our world as we know it. The gravitational force of the planets, perhaps in conjunction with Planet X, will lead to the earth's poles shifting from North to South and altering the rotation of the planet, causing earthquakes, volcanos and tsunamis. It may even make the oceans so hot, that they begin to boil.
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thisisalmostit The planets are lining up, we're bringing brighter days. They 're all in line, waiting for you so look for the truth.
captain eoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
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Well if you add the "Lak 'ech Ala k'in" (means you are another part of me) tweet and the latest tweet about the planets,
(part of the lyrics of you are another part of me) the 2012 theory makes some sense........
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If this was Michael - his messages would be far more inteligent... IMHO...
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Moving to a better word, and destruction of our world, could mean the same :roll: It's only the end of something, to begin something new. It's just changing...When you change you leave things behind, to be destroyed, and you get to new better things.
It's just time for changing. Don't have to be scared...Anyway you know, we'll all die some day...so... :roll: Nothing to be scared of.
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In deed, better to live everyday as it would be the last one ;) and enjoy every second and the people around you. No need to fear 2012 as the end. The end can come at any time for anyone.
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Are you sure I'm the man in the mirror? 18 minutes ago via web
:? :|
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This is the latest
Are you sure I'm the man in the mirror?
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This is the latest
Are you sure I'm the man in the mirror?
Are we sure you are not? No guarantees in this life except death and taxes. Apparently, not even death is guaranteed these days! LOL
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:roll: :roll: what´s next? You are just another part of me? wanna be starting something? Have you seen my childhood?
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:roll: :roll: what´s next? You are just another part of me? wanna be starting something? Have you seen my childhood?
"can you feel it"
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:roll: :roll: what´s next? You are just another part of me? wanna be starting something? Have you seen my childhood?
"can you feel it"
:lol: That´s Tito slogan
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:roll: :roll: what´s next? You are just another part of me? wanna be starting something? Have you seen my childhood?
ABC? Work that Body? :lol:
I totally lost faith in this person.
The End.
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well at least i learnt a few things.
Didn't know there was a movie, man in the mirror.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411377/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411377/fullcredits#cast)
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well at least i learnt a few things.
Didn't know there was a movie, man in the mirror.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411377/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411377/fullcredits#cast)
I saw it...you can see it in different part on youtube, but hum...i didn't really enjoyed it.
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well at least i learnt a few things.
Didn't know there was a movie, man in the mirror.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411377/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411377/fullcredits#cast)
Ouch! The first review at bottom of the IMDB page...not so good.
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Hi ...
I truly liked all of your comments and analysis ... so I decided to join you and tell you some of my opinions ...
first of all ...
"the man in the mirror" ....
look at this link http://illusion.scene360.com/art/8454/t ... rs-in-l-a/ (http://illusion.scene360.com/art/8454/the-mysterious-mirror-man-appears-in-l-a/) and specifically read comment #6 ... "Written by "Mike J"" ... I thought it might mean something ...
2 - about the "Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?" tweet ...
well look at this link and say what you think http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 05x6481425 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6481425)
"Do I believe in god? do I believe in me?
Some people wanna die so they can be free
(I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play? "
3 - I LOVE THE JOKER ... I mean "let's broaden our minds" ...
see this video and listen carefully to the song in the background ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tgxIWgJ_DE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tgxIWgJ_DE)
"new king in town ...... black and white ..."
and also about the year that movie was released ... 1989 ... ok now ... did you notice that the photo in the background of that twitter account is a photo of "Michael Jackson" and his reflection "in the mirror" and the there is a number at the bottom of the photo "989" ... well ... 1989 and 989 what do you think?
talking about the joker is endless ... in this movie ... "Jack" fall in some kind of a chemical and batman didn't help him ... people though he "died" ... but after a lot of plastic surgeries ... Here comes the "Joker" ...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/quotes)
"Joker: I've been dead once already. It's very liberating. You should think of it as, uh... therapy. "
"Joker: Jack? Jack is dead, my friend. "
"Joker: You can call me... Joker. And as you can see, I'm a lot happier. "
"The Joker: [reciting his poem to Vicki] I'm only laughing on the outside / My smile is just skin deep / If you could see inside I'm really crying / You might join me for a weep. "
"The Joker: You IDIOT! You made me. Remember? You dropped me into that vat of chemicals. That wasn't easy to get over, and don't think that I didn't try. "
"Joker: Stop the press, who is that? "
"The Joker: Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile. "
listen what the funny joker had to say ...
"Vicki Vale: What do you want?
The Joker: My face on the one dollar bill.
Vicki Vale: You must be joking.
The Joker: Do I look like I'm joking? "
heheh .... HE IS FUNNY ...
but lets go back to what we where talking about ...
"The Joker: Now you fellas have said some pretty mean things. Some of which *were* true under that fiend, Boss Grissom. He *was* a thief, and a terrorist. On the other hand he had a tremendous singing voice. He's dead now, and he's left me in charge. Now, I can be theatrical, and maybe even a little rough - but one thing I am not, is a *killer*. I am an artist. I *love* a good party. So, truce. Commence au festival!"
"The Joker: [fuming] Batman... Batman... Can somebody tell me what kind of a world we live in, where a man dressed up as a *bat* gets all of my press? This town needs an enema! "
"Joker: I now do what other people only dream. I make art until someone dies. See? I am the world's first fully functioning homicidal artist. "
"The Joker: Sometimes I just kill myself! "
"The Joker: Life's been good to me. "
"Joker: Gentlemen! Let's broaden our minds. Lawrence? "
4 - there is something that MIGHT be attached in a way or another ... you judge ..
http://www.eclectica.org/v6n3/palcewski.html (http://www.eclectica.org/v6n3/palcewski.html)
I'm sorry I didn't have time to read it because I have final exams these days ... so would someone please read it and tell us if it's attached or no ...
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and I thought you might wanna see this ...
http://www.examiner.com/x-3333-San-Dieg ... The-Mirror (http://www.examiner.com/x-3333-San-Diego-Rap-Music-Examiner~y2009m6d25-Revisiting-Rhymefests-mixtape-tribute-to-Michael-Jackson-Man-In-The-Mirror)
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IMO "Man in the Mirror" is just such an awkward / embarrassing piece of sh---censored ..t.
I hardly managed to follow it through half of the plot.
OMG (never said this before ...) !!! Without any words ...
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I watched the first 2 batman's but not the dark knight because I heard it was extra creepy, but maybe now I will. Thanks, I didn't realize TIAlmostI was quoting the Joker. Many movies have taken on a added new perspective for me.
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"Man In the mirror" movie is so weird ...
but could the question " are you sure I'm the man in the mirror?" is meant to make us think about how media can be awful like this movie ?!
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I didn't watch that batman 1989 movie but I read about it ... and "lets broaden our minds" seemed to me that this is something the joker would say and also the year 1989 and the 989 on the picture made me think further ...
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in this link ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXpjr-e1RsM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXpjr-e1RsM)
Michael wants to fire someone because " he doesn't beLIEve" ...
hmmmm ...
what do you think ?
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i think there is a lot of stuff going on right now in terms of speculation, tabloid press is in full throttle again and people don't look to the beginning anymore regarding how this is all constructed. the facts are there and everybody seems to go off on rumors...again...
my answer to that last tweet was: there are no 'coincidences'.
:mrgreen:
I agree with you 100%, tabloidburn! We can get so easily side-tracked with the latest story, that we can lose site of what we already know to be true -- none of this adds up. The latest tweet about keeping an open mind, is important. Closing the mind to new things and information is truly allowing oneself to become ignorant, in the true sense of the word. No red flags have gone up for me yet re this dude.
that's right, too. but i have to say that the way the 'mj'-quotes are picked and used at certain times is very peculiar. i could imagine it being someone 'testing the waters', checking how people react to those tweets. i don't believe that mike himself is even online too much doing that kind of stuff, i could imagine he's busy with other things. but then...maybe he's having a ball with it, too. and the research results always baffle me...like one thing leads to another and you get something profound, not some sick joke. methinks.
:mrgreen:
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Hi ...
I truly liked all of your comments and analysis ... so I decided to join you and tell you some of my opinions ...
first of all ...
"the man in the mirror" ....
look at this link http://illusion.scene360.com/art/8454/t ... rs-in-l-a/ (http://illusion.scene360.com/art/8454/the-mysterious-mirror-man-appears-in-l-a/) and specifically read comment #6 ... "Written by "Mike J"" ... I thought it might mean something ...
2 - about the "Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?" tweet ...
well look at this link and say what you think http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 05x6481425 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6481425)
"Do I believe in god? do I believe in me?
Some people wanna die so they can be free
(I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play? "
3 - I LOVE THE JOKER ... I mean "let's broaden our minds" ...
see this video and listen carefully to the song in the background ...
"new king in town ...... black and white ..."
and also about the year that movie was released ... 1989 ... ok now ... did you notice that the photo in the background of that twitter account is a photo of "Michael Jackson" and his reflection "in the mirror" and the there is a number at the bottom of the photo "989" ... well ... 1989 and 989 what do you think?
talking about the joker is endless ... in this movie ... "Jack" fall in some kind of a chemical and batman didn't help him ... people though he "died" ... but after a lot of plastic surgeries ... Here comes the "Joker" ...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/quotes)
"Joker: I've been dead once already. It's very liberating. You should think of it as, uh... therapy. "
"Joker: Jack? Jack is dead, my friend. "
"Joker: You can call me... Joker. And as you can see, I'm a lot happier. "
"The Joker: [reciting his poem to Vicki] I'm only laughing on the outside / My smile is just skin deep / If you could see inside I'm really crying / You might join me for a weep. "
"The Joker: You IDIOT! You made me. Remember? You dropped me into that vat of chemicals. That wasn't easy to get over, and don't think that I didn't try. "
"Joker: Stop the press, who is that? "
"The Joker: Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile. "
listen what the funny joker had to say ...
"Vicki Vale: What do you want?
The Joker: My face on the one dollar bill.
Vicki Vale: You must be joking.
The Joker: Do I look like I'm joking? "
heheh .... HE IS FUNNY ...
but lets go back to what we where talking about ...
"The Joker: Now you fellas have said some pretty mean things. Some of which *were* true under that fiend, Boss Grissom. He *was* a thief, and a terrorist. On the other hand he had a tremendous singing voice. He's dead now, and he's left me in charge. Now, I can be theatrical, and maybe even a little rough - but one thing I am not, is a *killer*. I am an artist. I *love* a good party. So, truce. Commence au festival!"
"The Joker: [fuming] Batman... Batman... Can somebody tell me what kind of a world we live in, where a man dressed up as a *bat* gets all of my press? This town needs an enema! "
"Joker: I now do what other people only dream. I make art until someone dies. See? I am the world's first fully functioning homicidal artist. "
"The Joker: Sometimes I just kill myself! "
"The Joker: Life's been good to me. "
"Joker: Gentlemen! Let's broaden our minds. Lawrence? "
4 - there is something that MIGHT be attached in a way or another ... you judge ..
http://www.eclectica.org/v6n3/palcewski.html (http://www.eclectica.org/v6n3/palcewski.html)
I'm sorry I didn't have time to read it because I have final exams these days ... so would someone please read it and tell us if it's attached or no ...
Welcome and THANK YOU for all of your insight and wisdom. I will definitely be looking at this later when I am able to concentrate. Blessings!
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oops - didn't mean to post the same info twice. :)
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welcome ....
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in this video ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cQsH9w ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cQsH9wOvM&feature=related)
interesting choice of words and especially the song saying to beLIEve ...
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in this video ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cQsH9w ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cQsH9wOvM&feature=related)
interesting choice of words and especially the song saying to beLIEve ...
I watched this one. Thought it was interesting. Who is the Diana voice that speaks to him when he steps out of the car? Is he remembering a conversation he had with Diana Ross?
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sorry posted in wrong forum
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if we start to discuss from subjetc in other subject...we won't understand anything...I think there is a "randy on twitter" thread...should talk about this over there, no ?
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so sorry.
please delete previous post.
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hmmmm sorry off topic but these are randy's tweets today.
And lastly, My family has plans to be at Forest Lawn on the 25th of June...
22 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® .Third, I fired Brian Oxman, but he is still under attorney-client restriction with me and cannot speak publicly.
23 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® .Second, the coordinator is telling fans that my brother is alive & will be there in disguise.... That deeply disturbs me.
24 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® .I have 4 concerns... First, where are the proceeds from ticket sales going...??
25 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® .I have some serious concerns about this tribute to my brother on the 25th of June in Rome...
about 1 hour ago via mobile web
though you guys would be interested!
There are two or three threads started on Randy's tweets. This will get more attention there. Interesting information though!
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This is the newest tweet
[youtube:bxqeexty]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYJMBFt5TI[/youtube:bxqeexty]
Really interesting. Interview with Prince about Michael
"Eventually everyone's got to come home"
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I really like this latest tweet!
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Can someone please WRITE here, what prince said, because I cannot understand part of it...and it's not easy to hear on video
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Can someone please WRITE here, what prince said, because I cannot understand part of it...and it's not easy to hear on video
Prince says:
He's a plant, y'all. But I planted him. (talking about reporter)
Keep it light. Keep it light.
Michael's not a fighter, he's a lover.
Could I just say something?
I've never really spoke publicly about Michael.
We should all just kind of like chill, because you know, he may know something none of us really know.
And just like, let's wait and see, let's wait it out, you know, let's just wait it out, you never know. You just never know.
Ultimately we all got to come back home, so, let's just make a home for everybody.
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Can someone please WRITE here, what prince said, because I cannot understand part of it...and it's not easy to hear on video
Prince says:
He's a plant, y'all. But I planted him. (talking about reporter)
Keep it light. Keep it light.
Michael's not a fighter, he's a lover.
Could I just say something?
I've never really spoke publicly about Michael.
We should all just kind of like chill, because you know, he may know something none of us really know.
And just like, let's wait and see, let's wait it out, you know, let's just wait it out, you never know. You just never know.
Ultimately we all got to come back home, so, let's just make a home for everybody.
Thank you so much ;)
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whatyourheartsays,
you're welcome :D
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The other hoax site, MJHD, does not seem to be talking about thisisalmostit (last post re this subject was May 6). Usually, the two sites are talking about the same things, more or less. Does anyone else find this a bit odd?
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in this video ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cQsH9w ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cQsH9wOvM&feature=related)
interesting choice of words and especially the song saying to beLIEve ...
This was very touching. I really hope that Michael knows we not only believe "in" him, but we just plain believe him. Thank you for sharing this video with us. Blessings.
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The other hoax site, MJHD, does not seem to be talking about thisisalmostit (last post re this subject was May 6). Usually, the two sites are talking about the same things, more or less. Does anyone else find this a bit odd?
Yes, really odd. Maybe they concluded that it was a fake? I'm not saying it is or isn't, of course. ;)
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Prince chooses his words carefully and what he says is absolutely stunning - considering that it was years ago.
He defends Michael in such a subtle way that even the reporters don´t seem to realize it. That´s what a friend does - not a rival.
he may know something none of us really know
Let´s chill & wait & see - you never know... 8-)
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The other hoax site, MJHD, does not seem to be talking about thisisalmostit (last post re this subject was May 6). Usually, the two sites are talking about the same things, more or less. Does anyone else find this a bit odd?
Yes, really odd. Maybe they concluded that it was a fake? I'm not saying it is or isn't, of course. ;)
Hmm...I guess it's worth watching to see why?
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my take is anyway that prince is somehow in on this or def knows what's going on out there.
like i stated earlier: this whole 'rivalry' was a tabloid invention, nothing real about it. i also believe that mike and prince are good friends and they managed to do this 'off camera'. prince is also very secluded and doesn't show himself when he doesn't want to. and like mike, he's incredibly smart and 'outtought' the business.
dunno, but these 'prince-references' in these tweets really puzzle me...there were a couple of them lately, like the 'joker' quotes, which were all from the 'batman' movie prince wrote the soundtrack for. and the akashic records-reference... :?
:mrgreen:
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in this link ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXpjr-e1RsM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXpjr-e1RsM)
Michael wants to fire someone because " he doesn't beLIEve" ...
hmmmm ...
what do you think ?
At the end he said to Liz that he wants his fans to believe ;)
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thisisalmostit Thessalonians 5:19-22
22 minutes ago via web
which means
19Do not put out the Spirit's fire; 20do not treat prophecies with contempt. 21Test everything. Hold on to the good. 22Avoid every kind of evil.
To me it's a bit like "beating a dead horse" BUT, i'm not into religiuos stuffs...so I prefer saying nothing. :lol:
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Relating to Prince about going home - on seeing Clues blog.spot do you remember that the original song that Michael wanted played at the memorial was Andrae Crouch & the Disciples - singing 'it won't be long before we're leaving here - it won't be long before we're going home'
[youtube:3k71q3pb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NflCoYmoStM&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:3k71q3pb]
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Relating to Prince about going home - on seeing Clues blog.spot do you remember that the original song that Michael wanted played at the memorial was Andrae Crouch & the Disciples - singing 'it won't be long before we're leaving here - it won't be long before we're going home'
[youtube:3s4ak64u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NflCoYmoStM&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:3s4ak64u]
Hu ?
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It is very important and we must keep reading.
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I guess I'll have to play Pagliacci
12:59 AM May 3rd via web
This one comment had me coming out of my skin. I love arcane opera history. I had a conversation a few days ago with a mate where I mentioned The MJ Mega Box image of MJ showed as a clown or Pierrot, a pantomime in Commedia dell'Arte. And now this reference to Pagliacci. Whoever owns this account is definitely an opera connoisseur and a very intelligent individual. I am blown away by this statement alone. MJ, you are slowly killing me, but what a way to go. ;) Only if more men of your calibre graced my world. What a happy girl, I would be. God bless all. xxxxx
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latest tweet, since I am still up at 4 a.m again :lol:
I m NOT Barry Shaw
I replied: That's a relief.
:lol:
I am going to be completely bald (among other unnamed things) if this keeps up for another month or two! Anybody got an extra comfy white jacket with all the straps, and a little padded room to go with it? I am in dire need here! :lol:
Sorry. I need to go to sleep now.
L.O.V.E. to all
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thisisalmostit Thessalonians 5:19-22
22 minutes ago via web
which means
19Do not put out the Spirit's fire; 20do not treat prophecies with contempt. 21Test everything. Hold on to the good. 22Avoid every kind of evil.
To me it's a bit like "beating a dead horse" BUT, i'm not into religiuos stuffs...so I prefer saying nothing. :lol:
mm i hope 5:19-22
will mean i will return 19-22 may but i guess its whisfull thinking
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Let's look at these scriptures a little more closely.
I Thessalonians 5:19
Do not quench the Spirit. - The Holy Spirit will only move in your life only if you allow Him to. God is a gentlemen and will not "make" you do anything. He comes as a gentle soft voice in your own spirit showing you the way to go. To quench the Spirit is to shut Him down and not hear what He is saying to you.
20: Do not despise prophetic utterances - God uses us to speak His words into the earth. We are His hands and feet here on earth, ambassadors of Christ. God is always speaking. He did not stop speaking after He gave His prophets the Word that make up the bible we have today. A prophecy is God's spoken Word for the "Now" in the earth. Do not despise the Words He gives to individuals to speak forth.
21:But examine everything carefully; hold fast to what is good; - The prophet Paul is telling them to weigh the words of prophecy to judge if the are truly from God. The best way to do this is to see if the Word spoken lines up with what God has already said in the bible. He will not go against what He has already said. God is not a man that He should lie or be swayed by social changes. He remains the constant same throughout all ages. Hold fast to what is good - cherish the good and protect it in your heart.
22: abstain from every form of evil - this ones speaks for itself.
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I guess I'll have to play Pagliacci
12:59 AM May 3rd via web
This one comment had me coming out of my skin. I love arcane opera history. I had a conversation a few days ago with a mate where I mentioned The MJ Mega Box image of MJ showed as a clown or Pierrot, a pantomime in Commedia dell'Arte. And now this reference to Pagliacci. Whoever owns this account is definitely an opera connoisseur and a very intelligent individual. I am blown away by this statement alone. MJ, you are slowly killing me, but what a way to go. ;) Only if more men of your calibre graced my world. What a happy girl, I would be. God bless all. xxxxx
Could you explain what Pagliacci is? I have no knowledge of opera and do not know what this means.
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mm i hope 5:19-22
will mean i will return 19-22 may but i guess its whisfull thinking
THAT WOULD BE GREAT!
MAY: 19 TO 22...
THESSALONIANS COULD BE A PLACE?
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Thessaly?
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Thessaly?
WHAT´S THESSALY? WHERE?
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Thessaly is in Greece.
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Pagliacci is an opera by Ruggiero Leoncavallo. In the begining is the prologue and Tonio /Pagliacci explaines the subject.
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@Jill, means clown.
This redirections are becoming too mystic :?
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Newest tweet
This will end by 2012
:( NOOOOOOOOOO
not that long
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hmmm doesn't say much :?
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@Jill, means clown.
This redirections are becoming too mystic :?
Thanks, Gema.
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From: @thisisalmostit
Sent: May 13, 2010 6:53p
Doublethink
sent via web
WTH? Can anyone guess what this means?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink)
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it means we will remain insane for a long time...
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I found this article that gives a modern interpretation to Orwell's concept of doublespeak:
http://www.thoughts.com/seeker_of_truth ... nk-108055/ (http://www.thoughts.com/seeker_of_truth/blog/modern-double-think-108055/)
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it means we will remain insane for a long time...
*sigh* it's looking that way, isn't it?
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I found this article that gives a modern interpretation to Orwell's concept of doublespeak:
http://www.thoughts.com/seeker_of_truth ... nk-108055/ (http://www.thoughts.com/seeker_of_truth/blog/modern-double-think-108055/)
scary but too true, unfortunately.
Does anyone else get the feeling that the number of stupid people is increasing at the rate of knots????
I feel blessed that i have a brain that functions as it should.....Thanks MJ :lol: :lol: :lol:
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George Orwell's 1984, eh? I read this before. Its society's ideas are very much to controlled population...I think it's worth a mention indeed, good call.
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@Jill, means clown.
This redirections are becoming too mystic :?
Thanks, Gema.
well, the tweets are discussed as they show up, so you only have to go back a couple of pages in this thread, cuz the explanation is in here already. a few members explained what pagliacci is (including myself) and there are links to see what it is. i don't think it makes much sense to be explaining stuff over and over again. i notice that a lot, that subjects or questions keep coming up that's already been discussed and explained thoroughly. no offense...
:mrgreen:
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it means we will remain insane for a long time...
*sigh* it's looking that way, isn't it?
i don't think mike thought this up for over a decade (or longer?) to have it all go down in a year. the beatles hoax went over 2 years, so we're just at the beginning of this. plus, there is no indication of WHAT will end in 2012 (war? famine? injustice? racism? the oil spill? these tweets?). of course, since we are thinking it could be mike or someone close to him, we're thinking 'hoax'. but if you pull your mind out of that (not mike, not hoax) for one second, 'this will end in 2012' doesn't say anything. what i mean to say is: if this is someone playin', he/ she knows exactly how do word those cryptic messages to make everybody go bananas, escpecially when you think this could really be mike himself.
it's almost getting too cryptic, tho...
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@Jill, means clown.
This redirections are becoming too mystic :?
Thanks, Gema.
well, the tweets are discussed as they show up, so you only have to go back a couple of pages in this thread, cuz the explanation is in here already. a few members explained what pagliacci is (including myself) and there are links to see what it is. i don't think it makes much sense to be explaining stuff over and over again. i notice that a lot, that subjects or questions keep coming up that's already been discussed and explained thoroughly. no offense...
:mrgreen:
:lol: :lol: too many to keep on the right track
-TII
-TIAI
-TINI
-TIalmostI
Double think? more double? :lol:
I am very entertained I must say :D
I am waiting for This COULD BE it series :lol:
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That's why "Also" is the best word. It implies addition
This...This..This...ALSO this...Maybe that..DEFINITELY this.:lol:
Maybe we can even see This Is It: Addendum (TIIA?) (TIAIA?!?)
Man...I'm OUTTA here for now :lol:
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last tweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTEhEPO ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTEhEPONgc&feature=related)
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well that guy must have been a big inspiration for Michael because I do see a lot of similarities in his dancestyle ;) but why would he send that video?
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well that guy must have been a big inspiration for Michael because I do see a lot of similarities in his dancestyle ;) but why would he send that video?
Absolutely correct. Check this out!!! http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/bo/bob_fosse.htm (http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/bo/bob_fosse.htm)
Be sure to read trivia at bottom of page!
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well that guy must have been a big inspiration for Michael because I do see a lot of similarities in his dancestyle ;) but why would he send that video?
Absolutely correct. Check this out!!! http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/bo/bob_fosse.htm (http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/bo/bob_fosse.htm)
Be sure to read trivia at bottom of page!
thank you...quite interesting 8-)
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I guess there is something about the "prince" thing ...
I just discovered that the song in that batman movie that says " new king in town ... black and white ... party man ... party man ... " that was released in 1989 and the singer is "prince"
the name of the movie in the last tweet is " little prince" ... I guess there is something related to the word "prince" if it had any special meaning ...
and I just knew that prince's little son died because of a syndrome called Pfeiffer syndrome ... and the man who is claiming to be Michael Jackson's lover his name is Jason Pfeiffer ... I wonder if it's a sign for something or just a coincidence ...
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I guess there is something about the "prince" thing ...
I just discovered that the song in that batman movie that says " new king in town ... black and white ... party man ... party man ... " that was released in 1989 and the singer is "prince"
the name of the movie in the last tweet is " little prince" ... I guess there is something related to the word "prince" if it had any special meaning ...
and I just knew that prince's little son died because of a syndrome called Pfeiffer syndrome ... and the man who is claiming to be Michael Jackson's lover his name is Jason Pfeiffer ... I wonder if it's a sign for something or just a coincidence ...
WOOOW, there is no way these things you find out are also just coincidences........Very good finds! Thanks!
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Listen to the words in the song Snake in the Grass:
One sting (from a needle?) is enough to make you happy and free
One sting and you'll discover how relaxed you can be posthumously.
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welcome ...
hope our MJ come back sooooooooon ...
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Great job guys! So many connections, it's ridiculous. :lol: And just curious, did MJ ever say that Bob Fosse was one of his inspirations? Obviously, he had to be. He even has the white socks and shoes. :lol:
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When I read this thread i put on this face :?
What do you think that redirection means?
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Great job guys! So many connections, it's ridiculous. :lol: And just curious, did MJ ever say that Bob Fosse was one of his inspirations? Obviously, he had to be. He even has the white socks and shoes. :lol:
It seems that Bob Fosse was a huge inspiration for Michael. Michael won the Bob Fosse Award for "Best Choreography in a Music Video", in 1997, for the choreography in Ghosts. This must have been such an honour (among all the other awards listed) for Michael!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aw ... el_Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_received_by_Michael_Jackson)
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good ....
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that is good ....
guess what I found ....
"little prince" movie was made in 1974 ...
and ... Michael Jackson performed in a series called "soul train" in 1974 ... there might be a connection or something ...
see here :
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0900749/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0900749/)
Sorry but I have to... :lol: @ the Soul Train. Soul Train is a dance/music performance show. I doubt the two are connected. It's not a fictional television series. I am not sure if you thought that but I never heard anyone refer to Soul Train as a series. Anyway, it doesn't hurt to investigate and find possible connections. Just wanted to let you know about the Soulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Train. (Listen to the theme song and you'll get it. lol)
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here's the latest:
Y?
what's that supposed to mean now :? :?:
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this is what i found by doing the simplest thing, i googled 'Y' :lol: :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo)
and i got THIS BOMBSHELL!!! :mrgreen:
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this is what i found by doing the simplest thing, i googled 'Y' :lol: :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo)
and i got THIS BOMBSHELL!!! :mrgreen:
wow that is awesome :shock: 8-) great find
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01:30 is what we are looking for ....
great video by the way ...
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01:30 is what we are looking for ....
great video by the way ...
" can be revived" 8-) really great find..this is indeed very mysterious :geek:
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thx for the compliment! :D
but dayum...what you can come to with just one letter...these tweets are drivin' me up the wall...it's like you find a million things with each tweet...
this is a short description of what eric faden does. he's a film and movie history professor at bucknell university, PA; wrote many pieces about technical stuff as well...just the kind of guy mike would read, too - history and movies combined, bet he ate that UP...does anyone here know if they were connected in any way?
http://www.vectorsjournal.org/projects/ ... project=78 (http://www.vectorsjournal.org/projects/index.php?project=78)
this is the link to eric faden's homepage. he has a twitter, too. but he protects his tweets... :?
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/efaden/ (http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/efaden/)
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that is good ....
guess what I found ....
"little prince" movie was made in 1974 ...
and ... Michael Jackson performed in a series called "soul train" in 1974 ... there might be a connection or something ...
see here :
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0900749/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0900749/)
Sorry but I have to... :lol: @ the Soul Train. Soul Train is a dance/music performance show. I doubt the two are connected. It's not a fictional television series. I am not sure if you thought that but I never heard anyone refer to Soul Train as a series. Anyway, it doesn't hurt to investigate and find possible connections. Just wanted to let you know about the Soulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Train. (Listen to the theme song and you'll get it. lol)
that's too cute, really! technically, you could call 'soul train' a series...but i also notice while i write this, that there are no music shows like that anymore. not weekly anyway, which was all the case in the 70s to maybe early 80s, until mtv came along. i remember we had a show in germany called 'disco' and another one called 'musikladen' (=music store), presenting international chart acts or new talents every week. that was all before mtv and 'the dome' and such things, people...it was called 'family entertainment'...*sigh*...i'm too old for this sh!t... :roll:
:mrgreen:
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this is what i found by doing the simplest thing, i googled 'Y' :lol: :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo)
and i got THIS BOMBSHELL!!! :mrgreen:
That is a great find! Also, "Y" is 25th letter of the "modern latin alphabet" (Wikipedia). We know that number well!!!
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And there's Generation Y:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y)
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this is what i found by doing the simplest thing, i googled 'Y' :lol: :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo)
and i got THIS BOMBSHELL!!! :mrgreen:
That is a great find! Also, "Y" is 25th letter of the "modern latin alphabet" (Wikipedia). We know that number well!!!
y'all know what? this is HUUUGE!!! this vid shows that actually sony has NO RIGHT to ban hoax videos on youtube anymore without a legal claim directly to the person who posted it, if i got this right. thus, anyone posting a vid that gets banned can also sue sony for blocking THAT original idea, cuz the vid is the work altogether, not just the material used in it. and then it can be defended by saying that it is 'teaching material' or something, because these vids will NOT change the original value of mike's work and they actually have no commercial value which would endanger the original. so any hoax vid using sony material of mike should be legal!!! now, all hoax vid producers should file a legal claim against sony for blocking their vids! what a legal battle that would be... :lol: :lol: :lol: all of youtube against sony and all the other ones that block for 'content'...let them suckaz go DOWN!!! :twisted:
i also find the fact interesting that the one clip used was using 'revived', but not spoken. clue? so that means that mike can still claim his own copyright and also, that sony MUST pay the estate for anything they want to use in the future that is not their copyright. as far as i know, mike has the sole copyright to all of his work, sony has limited (time!) publishing rights, meaning they can only publish what is given to them, but that doesn't include a copyright, except for the package they put it in. they cannot claim anything (like they're desperately tryin' to), which also means they have no right to block anything they don't have a copyright to in the first place...the only one who could legally block vids using original material would be mike himself, is my conclusion of this... :mrgreen:
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And there's Generation Y:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y)
Generation Y aka the "Peter Pan Generation". It fits...
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Great job guys! So many connections, it's ridiculous. :lol: And just curious, did MJ ever say that Bob Fosse was one of his inspirations? Obviously, he had to be. He even has the white socks and shoes. :lol:
It seems that Bob Fosse was a huge inspiration for Michael. Michael won the Bob Fosse Award for "Best Choreography in a Music Video", in 1997, for the choreography in Ghosts. This must have been such an honour (among all the other awards listed) for Michael!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aw ... el_Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_received_by_Michael_Jackson)
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I have read in many accounts that Michael was like a "sponge" when it came to studying the Greats who came before him....his genius was his ability to incorporate the best of his predecessors into his own work....remember that phrase, "Imitation is the greatest form of flattery"...take a look at this vid of Judy Garland....remind you of anything?
(sorry...I'm horrible at embedding...if someone can do that, I'd be so oblidged...but click on this and be AMAZED once again at Michael Jackson's genius!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw)
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Great job guys! So many connections, it's ridiculous. :lol: And just curious, did MJ ever say that Bob Fosse was one of his inspirations? Obviously, he had to be. He even has the white socks and shoes. :lol:
mike was a huuuge fan of hollywood musicals, like the gene kelly and fred astaire ones. bob fosse was not only a performer but also the choereographer of many of those musicals. he's like the inventor of the modern dance musical as we know it. and there are def some striking resemblances to mike's dancing and posing later on! mind that the movie is from 1974 (!) when mike was just 16, so bob fosse was most def one of his major figures to study.
here's a recipe: throw the nicholas brothers, fred astaire, gene kelly, bob fosse, sammy davis jr., jackie wilson and james brown in a pot, add some temptations routines, stir it up real good and cook with some genius and magic talent and you get: michael jackson! watch all those dancers back to back and you'll see!
:mrgreen:
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Great job guys! So many connections, it's ridiculous. :lol: And just curious, did MJ ever say that Bob Fosse was one of his inspirations? Obviously, he had to be. He even has the white socks and shoes. :lol:
It seems that Bob Fosse was a huge inspiration for Michael. Michael won the Bob Fosse Award for "Best Choreography in a Music Video", in 1997, for the choreography in Ghosts. This must have been such an honour (among all the other awards listed) for Michael!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aw ... el_Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_received_by_Michael_Jackson)
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I have read in many accounts that Michael was like a "sponge" when it came to studying the Greats who came before him....his genius was his ability to incorporate the best of his predecessors into his own work....remember that phrase, "Imitation is the greatest form of flattery"...take a look at this vid of Judy Garland....remind you of anything?
(sorry...I'm horrible at embedding...if someone can do that, I'd be so oblidged...but click on this and be AMAZED once again at Michael Jackson's genius!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw)
ooohhh, i saw that musical like 20 years ago...i always wondered why mike's 'dangerous' performance looked so familiar :lol: :lol: :lol: there you have it: musicals! and of course he had to pay a tribute to liza minelli's mother! great find! and they play a bit of the judy garland tune in the beginning, too... :mrgreen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG-rvfXD ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG-rvfXDSLo&feature=related)
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Tabloidburn....so glad you saw the connection between her performance and Michael's....I just happened upon this one day and was SHOCKED at the similarity!
I never considered before, though, the Liza/Michael connection to JUDY! Great insight! That man NEVER ceases to amaze me! What a genius! Makes me love him all the more....just when I thought that wasn't possible!
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And there's Generation Y:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y)
Generation Y aka the "Peter Pan Generation". It fits...
:shock: wow I think we really got something here :!:
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I can't wait for the next tweet :D ;)
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here's the latest:
L.o.v.e., like a rose in bloom and all of the Rainbow Children would feel it soon.
hmmmm :?: what is that supposed to mean..?
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L.o.v.e., like a rose in bloom and all of the Rainbow Children would feel it soon.
I guess we shouldn't have listened to LMP? No sunflower in this tweet!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I googled a bit. Take your pick, lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rainbow_Children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rainbow_Children)
The Rainbow Children
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Rainbow Children
Studio album by Prince
Released November 20, 2001
Recorded 2000–2001
Genre Pop, funk, rock
Length 68:49
Label NPG, Redline Enetertainment
Producer Prince
Professional reviews
Allmusic link
The A.V. Club (unfavorable) link
Billboard (favorable) link
Entertainment Weekly (C+) link
Jam! (favorable) link
New York (favorable) link
New York Press (favorable) link
Q link
Rolling Stone link
Slant link
Prince chronology
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
(1999) The Rainbow Children
(2001) One Nite Alone...
(2002)
Singles from The Rainbow Children
"The Work, pt. 1"
"She Loves Me 4 Me"
"Last December"
The Rainbow Children is an album by Prince, released in 2001. It was also released through Prince's website earlier in the year. It is the first album released outside of the NPG Music Club to be released under the name of Prince again, as he had reverted back to his previous stage name from his symbolic moniker a year earlier.
This concept album illustrates common Prince themes of spirituality and human sexuality, as well as love and racism, through the fictitious story of a social movement toward a Martin Luther King, Jr.-inspired utopian society. The album seems to allude to his recent conversion to the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, but Egyptian monotheism and New Age concepts such as the Akashic records are used as metaphors as well. Jazzier than any of his previous efforts, fan reaction was divided when this album was released. Some fans saw the album as a musical and spiritual evolution for Prince.[citation needed]
Musically, The Rainbow Children marked a shift towards a more "organic" sound for Prince. Unlike its predecessors, the album featured live drums, and made ample use of horns. Many songs were performed live during Prince's 2002 One Nite Alone... tour, which became an instant success with fans and critics alike.
The Rainbow Children was released through the independent distributor, Redline Entertainment, and has sold 158,000 copies in U.S. stores as of summer 2007.[1]
The album also had a dedicated promotional website that offered the track "She Loves Me 4 Me" as a free MP3 download.
[edit]Track listing
"Rainbow Children" – 10:03
"Muse 2 the Pharaoh" – 4:21
"Digital Garden" – 4:07
"The Work, pt. 1" – 4:28
"Everywhere" – 2:55
"The Sensual Everafter" – 2:58
"Mellow" – 4:24
"1+1+1 is 3" – 5:17
"Deconstruction" – 2:00
"Wedding Feast" – 0:54
"She Loves Me 4 Me" – 2:49
"Family Name" – 8:17
"The Everlasting Now" – 8:18
"Last December" – 7:58
and....
http://www.fieldwerks.com/new_page_5.htm (http://www.fieldwerks.com/new_page_5.htm)
^many references to the sun and sunlight, so maybe we did get the right flower. :lol:
CAN YOU FEEL IT? ;)
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well well...good work :) hmm well he led us to Prince before..in that interview link. Maybe Prince is a clue and is more important than we think? :?
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I would do a lyric search for those songs, but I'm busy working today. Maybe someone can that has time to spare? Maybe there are more clues there.
Wedding Feast jumped out at me, at only 54 seconds long. The Wedding Feast is a parable of Jesus.
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The Rainbow Children Lyrics is in this link http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.ph ... f4hfW4o%3D (http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=0zzOf4hfW4o%3D)
interesting choice of words ...
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The Rainbow Children Lyrics is in this link http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.ph ... f4hfW4o%3D (http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=0zzOf4hfW4o%3D)
interesting choice of words ...
http://web.me.com/j9991/Indigo-Crystal-Rainbow-Children/Welcome.html
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DIGITAL GARDEN
Love, like a rose in bloom
All of the Rainbow Children will feel it soon
2 the east, word traveled about this energy
Until it reached the Banished Ones
Who just wanted this love 2 cease
They now fallen in2/The Resistor's dream
And they built a Digital Garden/Or so it seemed
In this brilliant darkness/So-called angels of light/"Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies"
And all the Rainbow Children/Will stand and fight
4 everlasting, everlasting life/4 the one who sits on the right
4 Him we're willing to do the work
The Banished Ones approaching the palace shouted obscenities. They tried 2
confuse the Rainbow Children and dethron their king. Using the lies promoted
by the whosepapers, hellavisions, and scagazines- The Banished Ones
constructed a Digital Garden around the palace that extended throughout the
world. Furthermore they demanded compensation 4 their time spent in the
palace b4 the exile. This was noise! "So be it," said the Wise One, and
gladly obliged with an INVISIBLE DEED. The Banished Ones accepted and
returned to their place of birth in MendaCity. As 4 the Rainbow Children,
they began deconstructing the Digital Garden. Door to door they went in
search of those willing to do The Work.
Isn't it what we build here since 2 days ? digital garden :mrgreen:
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oh yeah...like I said before, it's like flowerpower slaps you right in the face in here ;)
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(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/captain_eo(1).jpg)
(http://buzz.hollywoodreporter.com/files/captain_eo-227x300.jpg)
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(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/captain_eo(1).jpg)
(http://buzz.hollywoodreporter.com/files/captain_eo-227x300.jpg)
hmm sorry I don't get it :( explain please :)
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i dunno whether to think that this IS prince ('almost it' - reference to the many comparisons between the two) or someone who likes tweeting anything relating to either prince himself or 'a prince'...or if this is supposed to be pointing to prince being in on the hoax...or just someone tryin' to be smart (well, he is, obviously) by playin' us here...? like: 'oh, they found this one out too quick, i'mma shoot some more balls at them, see how they run with THAT!' ... :shock: gaaahhh!!!
sometimes i curse the day i even got involved in all this...i do...i'm gonna fry my brain being here but it's too late to turn my back on it...i'm goin' back to my padded cell naw!
:mrgreen:
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i dunno whether to think that this IS prince ('almost it' - reference to the many comparisons between the two) or someone who likes tweeting anything relating to either prince himself or 'a prince'...or if this is supposed to be pointing to prince being in on the hoax...or just someone tryin' to be smart (well, he is, obviously) by playin' us here...? like: 'oh, they found this one out too quick, i'mma shoot some more balls at them, see how they run with THAT!' ... :shock: gaaahhh!!!
sometimes i curse the day i even got involved in all this...i do...i'm gonna fry my brain being here but it's too late to turn my back on it...i'm goin' back to my padded cell naw!
:mrgreen:
You take the words out of my mouth,
to much prince so i thought about it being prince also :)
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i dunno whether to think that this IS prince ('almost it' - reference to the many comparisons between the two) or someone who likes tweeting anything relating to either prince himself or 'a prince'...or if this is supposed to be pointing to prince being in on the hoax...or just someone tryin' to be smart (well, he is, obviously) by playin' us here...? like: 'oh, they found this one out too quick, i'mma shoot some more balls at them, see how they run with THAT!' ... :shock: gaaahhh!!!
sometimes i curse the day i even got involved in all this...i do...i'm gonna fry my brain being here but it's too late to turn my back on it...i'm goin' back to my padded cell naw!
:mrgreen:
You take the words out of my mouth,
to much prince so i thought about it being prince also :)
i was thinking the same... the littl eprince story... so much prince... i thought about being Prince also :roll:
i hope so... :mrgreen:
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Very interesting that we have another Prince-related tweet!
I found something about Rainbow Children. As I read about these children, I keep thinking of Michael saying that the children are our future. Some interesting links:
http://www.fieldwerks.com/new_page_5.htm (http://www.fieldwerks.com/new_page_5.htm)
http://web.me.com/j9991/Indigo-Crystal- ... lcome.html (http://web.me.com/j9991/Indigo-Crystal-Rainbow-Children/Welcome.html)
http://www.angeltherapy.com/article1.php (http://www.angeltherapy.com/article1.php)
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sometimes i curse the day i even got involved in all this...i do...i'm gonna fry my brain being here but it's too late to turn my back on it...i'm goin' back to my padded cell naw!
:mrgreen:
I'm right there with you. I'm too deep in this rabbit hole now! Mad Hatter, where are you?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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It says on that link that Prince became a Jehovah`s Witness!
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It says on that link that Prince became a Jehovah`s Witness!
hmm but Michael isn't a Jehovah's Witness anymore. weird :? ...
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here's the latest:
" Success, fame, and fortune, they're all illusions. All there is that is real is the friendship that two can share"
yepp...it's all about L.O.V.E. 8-) ;)
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
really? wow great find..thanks for sharing. This is so mysterious :? what do you think about this account?
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
really? wow great find..thanks for sharing. This is so mysterious :? what do you think about this account?
Well, this line could have been said by Michael himself in real life, he always said how lonely he felt a lot of the time, despite of all the millions of loving fans....He hardly could find true friends...so reading through all of this twitter account again, i still think this could be really Michael, in spite of the many hints to Prince...maybe it's just also telling the truth about their real connection, you know how the media made "enemies" from them...
But you know, it could happen we will never know for sure....
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
really? wow great find..thanks for sharing. This is so mysterious :? what do you think about this account?
Well, this line could have been said by Michael himself in real life, he always said how lonely he felt a lot of the time, despite of all the millions of loving fans....He hardly could find true friends...so reading through all of this twitter account again, i still think this could be really Michael, in spite of the many hints to Prince...maybe it's just also telling the truth about their real connection, you know how the media made "enemies" from them...
But you know, it could happen we will never know for sure....
god I hope it's Michael...I keep asking him to tell me who he is lol and if it's Michael where he is ;) 8-) maybe I'll get an answer some day ;)
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
really? wow great find..thanks for sharing. This is so mysterious :? what do you think about this account?
Well, this line could have been said by Michael himself in real life, he always said how lonely he felt a lot of the time, despite of all the millions of loving fans....He hardly could find true friends...so reading through all of this twitter account again, i still think this could be really Michael, in spite of the many hints to Prince...maybe it's just also telling the truth about their real connection, you know how the media made "enemies" from them...
But you know, it could happen we will never know for sure....
god I hope it's Michael...I keep asking him to tell me who he is lol and if it's Michael where he is ;) 8-) maybe I'll get an answer some day ;)
Please note that exactly this line from the Wiz was posted earlier today by Chappie here on the forum ;)
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Oh yeah;
Has anyone noticed that they tweeted on May 13th "This will end by 2012" then boom, next thing we know, couple days later we learn that CM's trial has a possibility of being postponed? :?
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Oh yeah;
Has anyone noticed that they tweeted on May 13th "This will end by 2012" then boom, next thing we know, couple days later we learn that CM's trial has a possibility of being postponed? :?
I know...I noticed...spooky :?
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Oh yeah;
Has anyone noticed that they tweeted on May 13th "This will end by 2012" then boom, next thing we know, couple days later we learn that CM's trial has a possibility of being postponed? :?
I know...I noticed...spooky :?
This is not the only time, "they" tweeted about a press conference before Jermains Gambia conference was announced. :?
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If somebody tells me "this is almost it" I would assume that it's 95% done.
Not that we barely made 1/3.
I don't overly like people messing up other person's minds.
I don't overly like people pretending to be in the know.
There are some amongst us that deserve more than a second look before jumping on them declaring "I love you so much".
This falling for an anonymous stranger in a second is giving me wrinkles while reading.
Anybody claiming to be MJ is per se a liar.
Anybody claiming to know what will happen is per se a liar.
There is only one person knowing what he would like to happen.
If it will happen the desired way is up to God.
There is no man ruling the world. And those claiming are dust in the wind.
There are some freeriders out there that need urgent help and a prayer.
I could also open an account on twitter, follow all so-thought relevant persons and claim "it will all end in 2012". And? See...
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Well yeah. Not saying this person IS in the know or that this IS an official twitter account. It's just some things we observe, even if it's not really what we think it is. ;)
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If somebody tells me "this is almost it" I would assume that it's 95% done.
Not that we barely made 1/3.
I don't overly like people messing up other person's minds.
I don't overly like people pretending to be in the know.
There are some amongst us that deserve more than a second look before jumping on them declaring "I love you so much".
This falling for an anonymous stranger in a second is giving me wrinkles while reading.
Anybody claiming to be MJ is per se a liar.
Anybody claiming to know what will happen is per se a liar.
There is only one person knowing what he would like to happen.
If it will happen the desired way is up to God.
There is no man ruling the world. And those claiming are dust in the wind.
There are some freeriders out there that need urgent help and a prayer.
I could also open an account on twitter, follow all so-thought relevant persons and claim "it will all end in 2012". And? See...
You have good points, but we can't refuse everything which seems suspicious, just because "Mike surely won't do this or that", who knows??
I'm not saying we have to fall for all strange things immediately, but it's worth following and some researching...
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If somebody tells me "this is almost it" I would assume that it's 95% done.
Not that we barely made 1/3.
I don't overly like people messing up other person's minds.
I don't overly like people pretending to be in the know.
There are some amongst us that deserve more than a second look before jumping on them declaring "I love you so much".
This falling for an anonymous stranger in a second is giving me wrinkles while reading.
Anybody claiming to be MJ is per se a liar.
Anybody claiming to know what will happen is per se a liar.
There is only one person knowing what he would like to happen.
If it will happen the desired way is up to God.
There is no man ruling the world. And those claiming are dust in the wind.
There are some freeriders out there that need urgent help and a prayer.
I could also open an account on twitter, follow all so-thought relevant persons and claim "it will all end in 2012". And? See...
You have good points, but we can't refuse everything which seems suspicious, just because "Mike surely won't do this or that", who knows??
I'm not saying we have to fall for all strange things immediately, but it's worth following and some researching...
That's what I think too....I mean of course it can all be false and can turn out to be some jerk messing with us...but we don't know. And I think it's the wrong way to suspect everything to be false, I mean yes we do have to investigate and think about the possibility that it could be right or wrong. But we can't just say that everything is false and wrong, just because there have been occasion where something like that was the case.
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
really? wow great find..thanks for sharing. This is so mysterious :? what do you think about this account?
Well, this line could have been said by Michael himself in real life, he always said how lonely he felt a lot of the time, despite of all the millions of loving fans....He hardly could find true friends...so reading through all of this twitter account again, i still think this could be really Michael, in spite of the many hints to Prince...maybe it's just also telling the truth about their real connection, you know how the media made "enemies" from them...
But you know, it could happen we will never know for sure....
mike PLAYED the scarecrow in the wiz!!! so that was indeed his line, i guess...but honestly, i'm getting a bit tired of the movies quotes and songlines here. just confirms my thinking that this is someone really smart (finding real good ones, that is) tryin' to see what all those hundreds of followers are gonna come up with. 'let's see which dog catches the bone'-kinda thing.
i will not fall into that trap to think this is really mike, i refuse. whenever i tweet back, i try to be provocative in a way, tryin' to challenge whoever that is to react in some kinda way. but i'm startin' to think that this tweeter is never gonna answer anyone, just to keep the 'mystery' of it all. we're gonna have movie quotes and songlines and filmclips until 2012...ugh... :roll:
:mrgreen:
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there are many interesting things, but I really have the feeling that it's going NOWHERE...for the moment.
I always said it but in French we have a way to say it
"opening opened doors"
I mean, you can google everything he says, you will find something interesting related to Michael or Prince...and SO ???
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there are many interesting things, but I really have the feeling that it's going NOWHERE...for the moment.
I always said it but in French we have a way to say it
"opening opened doors"
I mean, you can google everything he says, you will find something interesting related to Michael or Prince...and SO ???
I know...you're probably right...it's still fun to investigate it and see where it leads. But I am well aware about the possibility that it could all be false :)
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I don't believe it's "fake" because it never said "I am Michael Jackson" but I just wonder where this person wants to take us. As many people on the web, playing "mystery guy", it will lead to nowhere...
I hope not, but I really wonder.
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I don't believe it's "fake" because it never said "I am Michael Jackson" but I just wonder where this person wants to take us. As many people on the web, playing "mystery guy", it will lead to nowhere...
I hope not, but I really wonder.
I do too...well we'll see what the tweet is about ;)
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there are many interesting things, but I really have the feeling that it's going NOWHERE...for the moment.
I always said it but in French we have a way to say it
"opening opened doors"
I mean, you can google everything he says, you will find something interesting related to Michael or Prince...and SO ???
True, but this person, whoever is, really aware of Michael Jackson and the hoax, and Prince, and TIAI - not a coincidance that 'thisisalmostit' as a twitter account name was chosen - and so on and so on.........So do you think a beLIEver would do this to others, us?
I mean, i know things/life can be really cruel, but it's kind of an insider would do this to us....
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there are many interesting things, but I really have the feeling that it's going NOWHERE...for the moment.
I always said it but in French we have a way to say it
"opening opened doors"
I mean, you can google everything he says, you will find something interesting related to Michael or Prince...and SO ???
True, but this person, whoever is, really aware of Michael Jackson and the hoax, and Prince, and TIAI - not a coincidance that 'thisisalmostit' as a twitter account name was chosen - and so on and so on.........So do you think a beLIEver would do this to others, us?
I mean, i know things/life can be really cruel, but it's kind of an insider would do this to us....
I understand but any fan or people who worked with Michael, or insider, or call it whatever you want, could create an account like this...I mean, fans know about Little Prince, Wiz, Peter Pan, Prince, and everything. Where is it supposed to lead us to ? What are we supposed to learn from that ?
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I think that the information given is valuable for what it is.
But to consider this person legit regarding the hoax he must give at least one information nobody else already knows, something to prove he knows more than the beLIEvers or simple fans.
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I am interested in thisisamost's tweets. I definitely have learned some things through researching them. However, I remain healthily skeptical about who is behind them. For now, I'm just "simmering". I am still curious as to why the other hoax site does not talk about his/her tweets any more. Hmmmm....
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I am interested in thisisamost's tweets. I definitely have learned some things through researching them. However, I remain healthily skeptical about who is behind them. For now, I'm just "simmering". I am still curious as to why the other hoax site does not talk about his/her tweets any more. Hmmmm....
From what I read on the other hoax site on the thread they have about this account, they didn't stick around long enough. They concluded on May 5 that this person was full of it.
Maybe they bailed out a little too early?
I'm not saying this account is Michael. But the FACT that he isn't screaming he is just might mean something. Just like Michael always did, he is pointing out things that are going on around us in the world today. And yes, some of the things he tweets about we already know. But you have to remember that since the Sun article came out, thousands of people are finding this site. They have to read and catch up on almost a year's worth of hoax to get up to speed. That will take time.
They'd better read fast. :lol:
L.O.V.E. to all
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I don't believe it's "fake" because it never said "I am Michael Jackson" but I just wonder where this person wants to take us. As many people on the web, playing "mystery guy", it will lead to nowhere...
I hope not, but I really wonder.
Of course this person claimed "Michael Jackson, Neverland". They all do.
And each of them seems to think he /she is really smart.
In the worst case, they ask for your phone # and offer a meeting - and there are enough girls out there who would faintingly accept to get hurt.
We have seen all of this repeatedly.
Whatever they link to - if you enjoy educating yourself, go for it.
But don't expect MJ behind it.
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newest tweet:
Love is all
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at the butterfly ball !
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newest tweet:
Love is all
...you need. Now we are quoting the Beatles!?
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newest tweet:
Love is all
...you need. Now we are quoting the Beatles!?
yepp Beatles Time...and who owns the Beatles catalogue again?! ;) 8-)
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newest tweet:
Love is all
...you need. Now we are quoting the Beatles!?
yepp Beatles Time...and who owns the Beatles catalogue again?! ;) 8-)
Ok, thinking "outside the box", again...look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Need_Is_Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Need_Is_Love)
This particular part caught my eye:
"The Beatles were asked to come up with a song containing a simple message to be understood by all nationalities. "It was an inspired song and they really wanted to give the world a message," said Brian Epstein. "The nice thing about it is that it cannot be misinterpreted. It is a clear message saying that love is everything."[4] According to journalist Jade Wright, "Lennon was fascinated by the power of slogans to unite people and never afraid to create art out of propaganda. When asked in 1971 whether songs like Give Peace a Chance and Power to the People were propaganda songs, he answered: 'Sure. So was All You Need Is Love. I'm a revolutionary artist. My art is dedicated to change.'"[4]
The day before the Our World broadcast, the Beatles decided that the song should be their next single.[citation needed] Released in the UK on 7 July 1967, it went straight to number one and remained there for three weeks.[citation needed] It was similarly successful in the US after its release on 17 July, reaching number one for a week.[citation needed] It was also included on the American LP version of Magical Mystery Tour in November.[5]"
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look what I found in youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oADfmYQWmW8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oADfmYQWmW8)
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so I searched about that singer ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Glover#cite_note-2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Glover#cite_note-2)
in the personal life part ... it says that Glover currently resides in Switzerland where he lives with his partner Myriam. Myriam gave birth to a girl, Lucinda, on 27 June 2009.[3] Glover has been married (and divorced) twice
ok ... I don't know if it means something .. but the birth of that child at that date could indicate to a newborn or rebirth ...
any way that's just my opinion ...
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It's one of the Scarecrow's line from The Wiz......!
really? wow great find..thanks for sharing. This is so mysterious :? what do you think about this account?
Well, this line could have been said by Michael himself in real life, he always said how lonely he felt a lot of the time, despite of all the millions of loving fans....He hardly could find true friends...so reading through all of this twitter account again, i still think this could be really Michael, in spite of the many hints to Prince...maybe it's just also telling the truth about their real connection, you know how the media made "enemies" from them...
But you know, it could happen we will never know for sure....
mike PLAYED the scarecrow in the wiz!!! so that was indeed his line, i guess...but honestly, i'm getting a bit tired of the movies quotes and songlines here. just confirms my thinking that this is someone really smart (finding real good ones, that is) tryin' to see what all those hundreds of followers are gonna come up with. 'let's see which dog catches the bone'-kinda thing.
i will not fall into that trap to think this is really mike, i refuse. whenever i tweet back, i try to be provocative in a way, tryin' to challenge whoever that is to react in some kinda way. but i'm startin' to think that this tweeter is never gonna answer anyone, just to keep the 'mystery' of it all. we're gonna have movie quotes and songlines and filmclips until 2012...ugh... :roll:
:mrgreen:
...especially when this person probably looks on here to see peoples reactions and thoughts. You, in innocence, just played your hand to whomever this is because now he/she knows your thoughts and intentions. I'm not trying to be rude but we all need to be a little wiser. A good poker player doesn't show his hand does he? No, and that is how he wins. He bluffs the person into believing one thing when he's doing another. I don't like deception but this person, if they aren't Michael, knows how to stay one step ahead of the masses. He might also be connected to the media and gets information before it's actually posted. IDK - just please be careful not to fall for a ruse. Blessings.
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682 followers...a few days ago it was 'bout 300 less...that HAS some significance, i beLIEve... :mrgreen:
it's not that i totally distrust this tweeter, but my gut keeps telling me there's def something very serious about this one. the bob fosse clip and the disney-copyright thing really got me shaking...why would anyone tweet to this with this sony craziness going on right now and mike's new album being announced outside of sony and people asking 'how can he publish material that was recorded when he was still under contract with sony?'. i think this is one very crucial point here and that might hint to a way of how to avoid big companies like than from exploiting and dictating the artists, like they did mike. or tried to... :mrgreen: i strongly believe that part of this hoax is to expose and take down certain structures in this 'entertainment business', and with close to 700 people reading these tweets, information gets out there that is very useful to anyone. so this can change our behaviour for the future, dealing with corporations and knowing about our rights regarding that.
and then it's a film made by a professor on film history, a guy mike certainly knows about, if he didn't even meet him personally. mike is a film freak, he knows damn there every piece of celluloid out there and we all know how much he adored disney stuff. and then we get linked to a disney-clipped vid about such a very crucial issue... :? and that's only one thing...
it's almost like it all 'fits too well'...and of course there will be no confirmation, whether it is really mike or not. we just have to sit it out, i guess. it's not only a great adventure...it's one helluva trip!!!
(back to my padded cell)
:mrgreen:
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[youtube:2pjcbbnp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1fXL3s7bk[/youtube:2pjcbbnp]
Regarding the concept of "RAINBOW CHILDREN"
Dig deeper.
:geek:
The "NEW RAINBOW CHILDREN"
[youtube:2pjcbbnp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1VoxHSNzog[/youtube:2pjcbbnp]
Dig and find out WHAT the RAINBOW means to God and his chosen people.
Peace
:mrgreen:
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[youtube:wm2v31sz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1fXL3s7bk[/youtube:wm2v31sz]
Regarding the concept of "RAINBOW CHILDREN"
Dig deeper.
:geek:
The "NEW RAINBOW CHILDREN"
[youtube:wm2v31sz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1VoxHSNzog[/youtube:wm2v31sz]
Dig and find out WHAT the RAINBOW means to God and his chosen people.
Peace
:mrgreen:
What comes after a 'Sun'shower? A Rainbow :D
This is very appropriate timing!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR5B1s_vpDo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR5B1s_vpDo)
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the latest:
"There is nothing you don't know, only information you don't have"
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hahaha i have suspected this all along! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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the latest:
"There is nothing you don't know, only information you don't have"
well yeah that is kind of the point why we are investigating ;) :|
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I would do a lyric search for those songs, but I'm busy working today. Maybe someone can that has time to spare? Maybe there are more clues there.
Wedding Feast jumped out at me, at only 54 seconds long. The Wedding Feast is a parable of Jesus.
"Wedding Feast" / Prince
Brother dear brother,I came as quickly as I could
The Digital Haze is broken,The Banished Ones r gone 4 good, gone 4 good
Now there must b a wedding/Now there must b a feast
A feast, a feast/A smorgasbord at least
A brunch, a munch/Of cake if just a piece
Not just a vat of chitlins/Or turkey meat u c
We r what we eat/So we must eat a leaf
We'll dine under a tree/Unless it snows!
From: http://www.musicbabylon.com (http://www.musicbabylon.com)
Were you also thinking of the Marriage at Cana, where Jesus changed water to wine when the supplies run out and people wondered why the best wine was safed for last ( against the usual practice)? :lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_at_Cana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_at_Cana)
Prince´ lyrics are also pretty inviting for interpretation in this context - " Brother, dear brother"... 8-)
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I would do a lyric search for those songs, but I'm busy working today. Maybe someone can that has time to spare? Maybe there are more clues there.
Wedding Feast jumped out at me, at only 54 seconds long. The Wedding Feast is a parable of Jesus.
"Wedding Feast" / Prince
Brother dear brother,I came as quickly as I could
The Digital Haze is broken,The Banished Ones r gone 4 good, gone 4 good
Now there must b a wedding/Now there must b a feast
A feast, a feast/A smorgasbord at least
A brunch, a munch/Of cake if just a piece
Not just a vat of chitlins/Or turkey meat u c
We r what we eat/So we must eat a leaf
We'll dine under a tree/Unless it snows!
From: http://www.musicbabylon.com (http://www.musicbabylon.com)
Were you also thinking of the Marriage at Cana, where Jesus changed water to wine when the supplies run out and people wondered why the best wine was safed for last ( against the usual practice)? :lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_at_Cana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_at_Cana)
Prince´ lyrics are also pretty inviting for interpretation in this context - " Brother, dear brother"... 8-)
Thanks for those lyrics, rag doll. Very interesting.
I was also thinking about the Parable of the Wedding Feast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of ... ding_Feast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Wedding_Feast)
partial excerpt:
Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come. Then he sent some more servants and said, 'Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.' But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
And on their last tweet, my reply:
And it looks like that information is a long time coming. :lol:
Back to my padded cell now.
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here's the latest:
What is more important,,, the message or the messenger?
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here's the latest:
What is more important,,, the message or the messenger?
True, very true, you're right, it's a pity, for me the messenger also matters a bit..... ;)
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here's the latest:
What is more important,,, the message or the messenger?
True, very true, you're right, it's a pity, for me the messenger also matters a bit..... ;)
that's exactly what I answered him..I said well the message is more important...but the messenger is very important as well in our situation^^
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Both. You can't have one without the other. jmho.
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Sometimes the message is the messenger.
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Sometimes the message is the messenger.
or vice-versa- the messenger is the message.
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But like truthseeker said, if it's a message, you kind of can't have one without the other.
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If the message is "love" how is it possible not to care for the messenger ?
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If the message is "love" how is it possible not to care for the messenger ?
yepp..that's what I ask myself as well 8-) :roll:
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once again another tweet:
Lotusflower
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just googled it and found this:
What is the significance of the lotus flower in Buddhism?
In: Asian History, Buddhism, Symbolism and Symbolic Meanings [Edit categories]
Lotus Notes Anwendungen
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Answer
The lotus flower has a unique characteristic in that it blooms and sheds its seeds at the same time. In the context of Buddhism, the theory of karma says that, just like the lotus flower, our life is made up of cause and effect. Every cause -- be it action, word or thought -- will imprint an effect that can be seen in this lifetime or in future lives.
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In Buddhist paintings and sculpture, the Buddha is often seated on a lotus flower. The lotus produces a beautiful flower even with its roots in the dirtiest water. The symbolism is that a person can rise above being rooted in the ugliness and suffering of this world, and should try to be pure and help others with the beauty of the spirit.
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The lotus also played a role in the religious symbolism of ancient Egypt, although the papyrus is more common in surviving works of art. A discussion of the Egyptian symbolism of both flowers appears at: http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/flowers.htm (http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/flowers.htm)
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In addition to the above, the lotus signifies that even the dirtiest water will not cling to the lotus (pure in spirit). Try sprinkling water on a lotus leaf and it will just roll off.
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The lotus flower is believed to be able to reproduce from its own matrix. In this regard, it is the symbol of "self-regeneration" -- svayambhû in Sanskrit. Svayambhû can also mean "self-existent" and "independent." One often sees the lotus as the throne upon which the Buddha sits. Here, the Buddha is the symbol of the awakened Mind, which is self-existent, independent, and self-regenerating.
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lotusflow3r is also the name of Prince´s latest album...hmmm. 8-)
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lotusflow3r is also the name of Prince´s latest album...hmmm. 8-)
yeah that's right...another tweet that is Prince related^^
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Tlhankyou for your information-gathering, everyone. Very interesting! :shock:
Also take a look at the first paragraph in this article.
http://www.newsfinder.org/site/more/lot ... he_symbol/ (http://www.newsfinder.org/site/more/lotus_the_flower_the_symbol/)
I kept thinking of "piece by piece"...
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Tlhankyou for your information-gathering, everyone. Very interesting! :shock:
Also take a look at the first paragraph in this article.
http://www.newsfinder.org/site/more/lot ... he_symbol/ (http://www.newsfinder.org/site/more/lotus_the_flower_the_symbol/)
I kept thinking of "piece by piece"...
thank you for posting that article...very interesting. so Lotus and the sun together is a symbol for love?! well that of course reminds me of the sunflowers^^
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I'm curious about this, also. If thisisalmostit has over 700 followers, why is it only a handful of us that are discussing this Tweeter, and on this site only? Shouldn't there be more people willing to share their opinion? :|
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I'm curious about this, also. If thisisalmostit has over 700 followers, why is it only a handful of us that are discussing this Tweeter, and on this site only? Shouldn't there be more people willing to share their opinion? :|
I know. it's weird...I still think there's something to it and we should keep on investigating and follow this account. Idk I kind of have a good feeling about this. 8-)
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I'm curious about this, also. If thisisalmostit has over 700 followers, why is it only a handful of us that are discussing this Tweeter, and on this site only? Shouldn't there be more people willing to share their opinion? :|
I know. it's weird...I still think there's something to it and we should keep on investigating and follow this account. Idk I kind of have a good feeling about this. 8-)
I agree with you.
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I'm curious about this, also. If thisisalmostit has over 700 followers, why is it only a handful of us that are discussing this Tweeter, and on this site only? Shouldn't there be more people willing to share their opinion? :|
I know. it's weird...I still think there's something to it and we should keep on investigating and follow this account. Idk I kind of have a good feeling about this. 8-)
I agree with you.
good...do you have a twitter account? if yes you can follow me if you want: http://twitter.com/Andrea761987 (http://twitter.com/Andrea761987) 8-)
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lol Michelle you caught me.
i forgot to read more, just staring at your sign, its so cute
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This is what I found out about the Lotus Flower:
What makes the lotus flower so special?
The lotus flower is one of the most ancient and deepest symbols of our planet.
The lotus flower grows in muddy water and rises above the surface to bloom with remarkable beauty. At night the flower closes and sinks underwater, at dawn it rises and opens again. Untouched by the impurity, lotus symbolizes the purity of heart and mind. The lotus flower represents long life, health, honor and good luck.
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This is what I found out about the Lotus Flower:
What makes the lotus flower so special?
The lotus flower is one of the most ancient and deepest symbols of our planet.
The lotus flower grows in muddy water and rises above the surface to bloom with remarkable beauty. At night the flower closes and sinks underwater, at dawn it rises and opens again. Untouched by the impurity, lotus symbolizes the purity of heart and mind. The lotus flower represents long life, health, honor and good luck.
yeah long life 8-) there you have it^^ 50 is not long ;)
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Latest tweet...
thisisalmostit " It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important."
Il y a 1 minute via web
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Latest tweet...
thisisalmostit " It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important."
Il y a 1 minute via web
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This is an MLK Jr. Quote!
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lol Michelle you caught me.
i forgot to read more, just staring at your sign, its so cute
Thanks ;) I L.O.V.E. it too, so sweet and funny :P :P :P
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Latest tweet...
thisisalmostit " It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important."
Il y a 1 minute via web
well...it sure is pretty important. and maybe Michael is in hiding because he is in danger and is afraid of his life.
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Oh yeah;
Has anyone noticed that they tweeted on May 13th "This will end by 2012" then boom, next thing we know, couple days later we learn that CM's trial has a possibility of being postponed? :?
Very interesting. 8-) I can feel that. 8-)
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I have a question since I am not on twitter. Some of the followers of Thisisalmostit show icons of famous people like Dame Elizabeth Taylor and Rev Al Sharpton. Does that mean that Elizabeth and Rev Sharpton are the real celebrities following this account. I hope that someone can answer this question for me. Thank you!
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Latest tweet...
thisisalmostit " It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important."
Il y a 1 minute via web
well...it sure is pretty important. and maybe Michael is in hiding because he is in danger and is afraid of his life.
I think this quote could also be meant as an analogy to Doc Murray and the prejudgement he experiences.
Regarding "2012" - this article from July last year is still pretty thought-provoking imho:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/ju ... n-material (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/16/michael-jackson-material)
Adding 1 + 1... :geek:
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I have a question since I am not on twitter. Some of the followers of Thisisalmostit show icons of famous people like Dame Elizabeth Taylor and Rev Al Sharpton. Does that mean that Elizabeth and Rev Sharpton are the real celebrities following this account. I hope that someone can answer this question for me. Thank you!
It means ThisisAlmostit is following THEM.
;)
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
hmm that is a good question...I'm not really bible savy but maybe they found out about the importance of the tree life after they ate from the tree of knowledge...because they were wiser afterwards :roll: and that's God was barring the way. Or maybe not...I don't really know. :roll:
Btw I love your sig Michelle...It's so cute :mrgreen: 8-)
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what good is one without the other? (taken out of the bible context)
maybe that's the question to ask?
:mrgreen:
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I found this modern interpretation of the Trees. Note the section at the bottom of the article that's about the internet. I thought this was interesting, since we are completely tied to the internet with this hoax. ;)
http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus ... and-evil-0 (http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/tree-knowledge-good-and-evil-0)
I found this interesting, also: http://www.landinstitute.org/vnews/disp ... /3aa416120 (http://www.landinstitute.org/vnews/display.v/ART/2000/11/01/3aa416120)
A scientific approach to the question.
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
hmm that is a good question...I'm not really bible savy but maybe they found out about the importance of the tree life after they ate from the tree of knowledge...because they were wiser afterwards :roll: and that's God was barring the way. Or maybe not...I don't really know. :roll:
Btw I love your sig Michelle...It's so cute :mrgreen: 8-)
I'm also not good in interpreting the Bible, but your way seems right.
And thanks, i also L.O.V.E. this sig very much :P :P :P
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I have a question since I am not on twitter. Some of the followers of Thisisalmostit show icons of famous people like Dame Elizabeth Taylor and Rev Al Sharpton. Does that mean that Elizabeth and Rev Sharpton are the real celebrities following this account. I hope that someone can answer this question for me. Thank you!
It means ThisisAlmostit is following THEM.
;)
Thank you very much, Loma, for the explanation. Hmmmmmm, that is very interesting. Good bless you, Loma! :) I will definitely keep an eye on this twitter account!
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The Ancient Egyptian God Isis is sometimes depicted holding a Lotus Flower.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
Seeing Clues blog - The Ankh & Isis
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12/ankh-life-after-death-and-tii.html
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
Good questions... I thought they were allowed to eat from every tree in the garden, except from the "Tree of Knowledge".
So if they had choosen the fruit from the "Tree of Life", they could have lived peacefully in the garden until eternity.
I wonder why God didn´t want them to be educated? Is that the true meaning of the phrase "Blessed are the poor in spirit?" :roll:
"Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat,
for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." (Genesis 2:16)
Threats without explaining the "why" - pedagogically irresponsible. A little like "don´t eat the cookies on the shelf"...
But sometimes you can´t help yourself... ;)
Interestingly, it´s the same with Prometheus- someone questions the "status quo", thereby dares the authoroties with his defiance and gets badly punished. But he delivered the "fire" to the benefit of mankind - and thanks to Adam & Eve´s "mistake",
we´re all a little wiser... :D
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
IMO and from my study, God deliberately set up Adam and Eve TO fail, because He has a greater plan of the ages. To produce heirs to the throne, to become like God, we need to know good and evil. No parent would allow a child molester in his home alone with the children, and then punish the innocent and gullible children for doing what the crook said. All history from Genesis to Revelations is one giant drama stage, and we all have designated roles, whether good or villian. God is fully in control and hasn't gone to plan B because Satan spoiled his plans for humans. Here's a link to a guy who teaches unorthodox bigger pictures from the Bible, but still the Bible. http://www.martinzender.com/clanging_go ... chives.htm (http://www.martinzender.com/clanging_gong/archives/archives.htm)
Genesis 3:22-23 (New King James Version)
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken."
Eating from this tree would have given man eternal life, man was not yet immortal but would still die. Then going from the beginning of the story to the ending we find the same tree of life again in Revelation 22:1-5.
1 And he showed me a pure[a] river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. 5 There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever."
The line of His name being on their foreheads makes me think of the strange writing on the forehead of earth-girl in TII. Don't know if anyone figured it out yet.
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latest... " a black pope?"
found this on wiki: A derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus?????????????????
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latest... " a black pope?"
found this on wiki: A derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus?????????????????
:shock: wow..great find. what exactly is the Society of Jesus??
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latest... " a black pope?"
found this on wiki: A derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus?????????????????
:shock: wow..great find. what exactly is the Society of Jesus??
The Jesuits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus)
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... ckpope.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm)
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latest... " a black pope?"
found this on wiki: A derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus?????????????????
:shock: wow..great find. what exactly is the Society of Jesus??
The Jesuits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus)
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... ckpope.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm)
thank you for the link :mrgreen: yeah I heard of the Jesuits before...but I didn't make the connection :roll: It's still a little foggy about waht that has to do with Michael^^
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latest... " a black pope?"
found this on wiki: A derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus?????????????????
:shock: wow..great find. what exactly is the Society of Jesus??
The Jesuits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus)
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... ckpope.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm)
thank you for the link :mrgreen: yeah I heard of the Jesuits before...but I didn't make the connection :roll: It's still a little foggy about waht that has to do with Michael^^
I think that Michael wants to expose the New World Order (secret societies) and by raising awareness in the masses counteract their agenda. The Jesuits are part of it, a big part and it points to the Vatican, the Black Pope. We are coming in times where the truth has to be revealed.
There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such a collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true, otherworldly cultural heritage.
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A black pope?...connections to 9/11? http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/blackpope.htm (http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/blackpope.htm)
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My reply tweets: It's black, it's white. It's tough for us to get by. There's only Shades of Gray. http://tinyurl.com/n77wza (http://tinyurl.com/n77wza)
and
http://www.lyricsbay.com/shades_of_gray ... nkees.html (http://www.lyricsbay.com/shades_of_gray_lyrics-monkees.html)
Shades of Gray by the Monkees
When the world and I were young, just yesterday
Life was such a simple game a child could play
It was easy then to tell right from wrong
Easy then to tell weak from strong
When a man should stand and fight
Or just go along
But today, there is no day or night
Today, there is no dark or light
Today, there is no black or white
Only shades of gray
I remember when the answer seemed so clear
We had never lived with doubt, or tasted fear
It was easy then to tell truth from lies
Selling out from compromise
Who to love and who to hate
The foolish from the wise
But today, there is no day or night
Today, there is no dark or light
Today, there is no black or white
Only shades of gray
It was easy then to know what was fair
When to keep and when to share
How much to protect your heart
And how much to care
But today, there is no day or night
Today, there is no dark or light
Today, there is no black or white
Only shades of gray
Only shades of gray
No offense meant by the comments in the video in the tiny url link. Guess this guy in that video is unaware of the hoax, he says MJ's dead, so there's the warning for that. It's about what Pope Benedict did on July 7, 2009 while the whole world was watching the memorial. People need to know this. White Pope, Black Pope. Both are evil imo. :evil: And before you bash me, I was raised Catholic. :lol:
L.O.V.E to all
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latest... " a black pope?"
found this on wiki: A derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus?????????????????
:shock: wow..great find. what exactly is the Society of Jesus??
The Jesuits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus)
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... ckpope.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm)
i just tweeted both your links over there. hope you don't mind... :mrgreen:
(credits went to you, of course!)
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thisisalmostit
"The mediator between the head and the hands, must be the heart"
less than 20 seconds ago via web
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thisisalmostit
"The mediator between the head and the hands, must be the heart"
less than 20 seconds ago via web
That's a line from "Metropolis".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film))
http://blogs.warriorlife.net/matthewros ... the-heart/ (http://blogs.warriorlife.net/matthewross/2009/12/09/metropolis-the-mediator-between-the-head-and-the-hands-must-be-the-heart/)
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thisisalmostit
"The mediator between the head and the hands, must be the heart"
less than 20 seconds ago via web
That's a line from "Metropolis".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film))
http://blogs.warriorlife.net/matthewros ... the-heart/ (http://blogs.warriorlife.net/matthewross/2009/12/09/metropolis-the-mediator-between-the-head-and-the-hands-must-be-the-heart/)
wow good work..thank you for the link!
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Styloprincess, you're welcome. ;)
The second link is very informative.
Who are the hands, who is the heart? Who is the head? :lol:
Researching too much today. It's all giving me a headache! :lol:
My reply: Who is the head, the hands, the heart? Do we have a savior? Or do we save ourselves? Are you our Mediator? Do we have one?
Come out, come out, whomever you are! :lol:
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thisisalmostit
"The mediator between the head and the hands, must be the heart"
less than 20 seconds ago via web
"Your heart is one with your brain, emotional or reason, now which one do you obey ?"
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thisisalmostit
"The mediator between the head and the hands, must be the heart"
less than 20 seconds ago via web
That's a line from "Metropolis".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film))
http://blogs.warriorlife.net/matthewros ... the-heart/ (http://blogs.warriorlife.net/matthewross/2009/12/09/metropolis-the-mediator-between-the-head-and-the-hands-must-be-the-heart/)
Check out this and Feb 12, 2010:
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=5514&p=86806&hilit=Metropolis#p86806 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=5514&p=86806&hilit=Metropolis#p86806)
There's more to "Metro-Police".
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that just in:
thisisalmostit
Monsanto
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I found this..queck it out:
http://www.monsanto.com/ (http://www.monsanto.com/)
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Styloprincess, you're welcome. ;)
The second link is very informative.
Who are the hands, who is the heart? Who is the head? :lol:
Researching too much today. It's all giving me a headache! :lol:
My reply: Who is the head, the hands, the heart? Do we have a savior? Or do we save ourselves? Are you our Mediator? Do we have one?
Come out, come out, whomever you are! :lol:
The hands are the workers "regular folk" and the head is the people who are really running the world or the "elite". The heart is the person that is in between the two worlds and understands both sides and wants to heal the war between us versus them. I also like to think the heart is a representation of L.O.V.E. At least, that's how I interpret the message at the end of the movie. It's really an incredible movie. I would recommend it to everyone. It does make you think a lot about this world and its structure and how we can heal it.
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I found this..queck it out:
http://www.monsanto.com/ (http://www.monsanto.com/)
If you get a chance, watch the documentary "King Corn". I found the trailer to it, but, please, try to find the full-length documentary. I've seen it, and it's all about Monsanto and their GMO-linked corn. A must-see!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8)
I just saw another title to a Monsanto-related documentary, "The World According to Monsanto". So, look for that one, too. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01 ... nation.php (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01/5-food-films-deserved-oscar-nomination.php)
This is scary stuff!
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I found this..queck it out:
http://www.monsanto.com/ (http://www.monsanto.com/)
If you get a chance, watch the documentary "King Corn". I found the trailer to it, but, please, try to find the full-length documentary. I've seen it, and it's all about Monsanto and their GMO-linked corn. A must-see!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8)
I just saw another title to a Monsanto-related documentary, "The World According to Monsanto". So, look for that one, too. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01 ... nation.php (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01/5-food-films-deserved-oscar-nomination.php)
This is scary stuff!
I've seen the trailer and I am trying to find the whole documentary...is it out on DVD? I think it's really interesting and yes it is scary to see what you put into your system without even knowing!!
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Styloprincess, you're welcome. ;)
The second link is very informative.
Who are the hands, who is the heart? Who is the head? :lol:
Researching too much today. It's all giving me a headache! :lol:
My reply: Who is the head, the hands, the heart? Do we have a savior? Or do we save ourselves? Are you our Mediator? Do we have one?
Come out, come out, whomever you are! :lol:
The hands are the workers "regular folk" and the head is the people who are really running the world or the "elite". The heart is the person that is in between the two worlds and understands both sides and wants to heal the war between us versus them. I also like to think the heart is a representation of L.O.V.E. At least, that's how I interpret the message at the end of the movie. It's really an incredible movie. I would recommend it to everyone. It does make you think a lot about this world and its structure and how we can heal it.
Thank you for summarizing the article I linked so simply! That is wonderful! I've been following this person for a while now, and I throw stuff back at them sometimes. lol: I was just trying to draw them out. ;)
I would love to see the movie.
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thisisalmostit
Monsanto
Oh, now we're getting somewhere. Now it's getting down to not only the crap they feed our minds, but the crap they make us put in our bodies! I love this one!
My reply: could be why almost everything I eat makes me sick, and my chances of developing stomach cancer are now 50%. #celiac
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I found this..queck it out:
http://www.monsanto.com/ (http://www.monsanto.com/)
i read about some 10 years ago that this is also the company (at least the same name) who is connected to that chip people are supposed to be getting immplanted in their hand...the agricultural company is real big on genetically manipulated crap...erm...crop...serious sh!t here...
:mrgreen:
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I found this..queck it out:
http://www.monsanto.com/ (http://www.monsanto.com/)
If you get a chance, watch the documentary "King Corn". I found the trailer to it, but, please, try to find the full-length documentary. I've seen it, and it's all about Monsanto and their GMO-linked corn. A must-see!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8)
I just saw another title to a Monsanto-related documentary, "The World According to Monsanto". So, look for that one, too. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01 ... nation.php (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/01/5-food-films-deserved-oscar-nomination.php)
This is scary stuff!
VIDEO REMOVED BY USER...oh, no sh!t?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
someone wants to be 'not investigated' here... :mrgreen:
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thisisalmostit
Monsanto
Yeah, I have been aware of this company for some years now. I began my research of artificial sweeteners a few years back and there are many symptoms from eating aspartame and sucralose, etc.
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Monsanto is also patenting the genetic material of plants and animal and genetically modifying the foods we we eat (GMO's)
Patent for a Pig 1 of 5
[youtube:3slvwu1b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-ouf_gmA5o[/youtube:3slvwu1b]
Aspartame is manufactured by the G.D. Searle & Company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame
Donald Rumsfeld followed Searle as CEO, and then as President, of Searle between 1977 and 1985. During his tenure at Searle, Rumsfeld downsized the number of employees in the company by 60%. The resulting spike in the company's bottom-line financials earned him awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry from the Wall Street Transcript (1980) and Financial World (1981). In 1985, he played an instrumental role in the acquisition of G.D. Searle & Company by Monsanto.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Searle_%28company%29
Donald Henry Rumsfeld is a United States businessman, retired Navy Fighter Pilot, diplomat, and politician who served as the 13th Secretary of Defense under President Gerald Ford from 1975 to 1977 and as the 21st Secretary of Defense under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld
Sweet Misery a documentary about Aspartame
Link to the movie:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6551291488524526735#
Trailer
[youtube:3slvwu1b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-gA0wvi84[/youtube:3slvwu1b]
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thisisalmostit
Monsanto
Yeah, I have been aware of this company for some years now. I began my research of artificial sweeteners a few years back and there are many symptoms from eating aspartame and sucralose, etc.
sweeteners/ sugar substitutes are the WORST. everybody wants to eat and drink 'light', so it is in every damn softdrink, yogurt, CHEWING GUM, whatever had sugar in there before. and people who don't even need to consume sweeteners (like non-diabetic), still poison themselves every day by using sweetener in their coffee and liquid sweetener for cooking...people are poisoning themselves by this chemical intake and they don't even see it...all because it's more comfortable to buy ice tea with sweetener instead of making it yourself...EAT FRUITS AND VEGGIES AND CUT DOWN THE SUGAR! PERIOD!!!
:mrgreen:
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One more short article on Monsanto:
Monsanto, How Evil Are Thee? Let me Count The Ways… 27 Comments
By Matt Mayer in Education, Organic | April 6, 2008
Vanity Fair has a great article on their site featuring one of our favorite corporate villains, Monsanto. It is truly astounding the amount of evil doing that this one company can engage in.
From a business standpoint Monsanto certainly has the right to patent their genetically modified seeds, and profit and protect their profits with litigation from their business developments. But they do not have the right to give us products that suck. Their products suck. They spread all over the countryside. They don’t stay contained. In short, they act like plants. (Amazing, I know)
Monsanto as a company lies, incredibly, about what they are doing. They bribe officials around the world and they seem to treat the world as their toilet. That’s not right for the rest of us.
When their seeds are let loose Monsanto does have the right to ensure that farmers are buying their seeds through proper channels. But they do not have the right to coerce, threaten or harass farmers. We have a legal system for a reason. They certainly do not have the right to chase after farmers who are just victims in their (Monsanto’s) inability to control the seeds. (like this poor farmer) If they can’t keep their seeds under control then they should not be allowed to produce them. So far our government has failed to protect us in this endeavor.
The easiest way to force them to stop this nonsense is to stop being involved with them. Buy only organic food. Don’t eat CAFO meat, which is stuffed with GM corn and soybeans. Don’t use ethanol, which is made from GM corn. (Same with biodiesel) Stop buying vegetable oils from GM seeds. Use organic cotton. Monsanto is trying to make inroads on GM sugar beets, and if they do start buying organic sugar. Even better, let the candy companies know that you don’t want GM sugar. They have the power to stop it.
You have the power to change this too. Just change your consumption patterns.
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that just in:
thisisalmostit
Monsanto
Yeah, I have been aware of this company for some years now. I began my research of artificial sweeteners a few years back and there are many symptoms from eating aspartame and sucralose, etc.
sweeteners/ sugar substitutes are the WORST. everybody wants to eat and drink 'light', so it is in every damn softdrink, yogurt, CHEWING GUM, whatever had sugar in there before. and people who don't even need to consume sweeteners (like non-diabetic), still poison themselves every day by using sweetener in their coffee and liquid sweetener for cooking...people are poisoning themselves by this chemical intake and they don't even see it...all because it's more comfortable to buy ice tea with sweetener instead of making it yourself...EAT FRUITS AND VEGGIES AND CUT DOWN THE SUGAR! PERIOD!!!
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I agree! It's just too bad that the gum has the sweeteners, cuz i love to chew gum... :? :lol:
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Yes, the very first time I´ve heard of this company wasn´t long ago.
I think it was a documentary about genetically modified foods.
Monsanto seems to be one of the biggest global manufacturer and distributors.
The legal framework for the export of genetically modified fruit and vegetables to Europe is -due to the steady protest of people - restricted and prohibited in large parts. But that doesn´t protect enough, since the source for certain ingredients like soy powder for food production isn´t specified on the package. Furthermore the law doesn´t apply to genetically engineered food for animals and pets.
According to Greenpeace, components of genetically changed food can be found in more than 30.000 products - bread, butter, milk, eggs, chocolate, babyfood...
Only the consumer alone can make a change with modifying the own buying habits.
And with bringing certain terms into question: Is "bio"diesel really "bio" when whole areas of fields get poisoned - just for fuel?
While other people starve... :roll: :cry:
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Here in France, geneticly modified food must be writen on the box and some are not allowed...But when you eat beaf, you can be sure it's fed with genetic corn and stuff like that, unless it's "bio"...
About starvation, I think we really DO have a problem about "bio diesel" and meat production. Most of the cereals that are produced in the world are used to feed animals or to feed cars !
Do you know that to produce 1kg of beef, you need 25kg of cereal ? And who on Earth can afford beef everyday for lunch ?
We should really change or eating and consuming habits...
Buy local, travel by train or use carpooling, eat local products, and eat LESS meat...
We should also use less "ready to eat" food, cause you don't know what's in. When you buy your vegetables produced where you live, and you buy your chicken grown naturally in the farms around...you just know what you buy and what you eat...
I'm not veg, but I'm sure we are eating too much meat for our own needs, or for the planet's health. But you know, it's like smoking, hunting, whales fishing...there are "lobbists?" to tell you what's wrong or right in your life.
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this stuff is also associated with MONSANTO. google 'monsanto' and 'microchip' and you will get a bunch of stuff like this (this is from 2007!):
[youtube:2ustw6j7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USc4fMgFShg&feature=related[/youtube:2ustw6j7]
scared yet?
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latest tweet: leon kompowsky
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Kompowsky (http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Kompowsky)
interesting: the trivia - kompowksy was 'set to return later as prince' - another mike/ prince relation...what the heck is this supposed to be leading to?
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latest tweet: leon kompowsky
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Kompowsky (http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Kompowsky)
interesting: the trivia - kompowksy was 'set to return later as prince' - another mike/ prince relation...what the heck is this supposed to be leading to?
:mrgreen:
Taken from the same link as above. I thought this was interesting - especially since this impersonator isn't discussed like E'Cas, etc. Kipp Lennon? Hmm..
Leon Kompowsky, in fact, was voiced by Michael Jackson (who, for contractual reasons, was credited as "John Jay Smith")[2] and his singing was done by Jackson impersonator Kipp Lennon. Kompowsky was set to later return, except this time as Prince, but the idea fell through.
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Thanks for the info @tabloidburn and @voiceforthesilent. Yet another thing about Michael I did not know. I'm downloading the episode now and I can't wait to see it! The trivia "behind the scenes" is fascinating!
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Kip Lennon and the group Venice made a song called Think Again:
This here's a story, I sing for you
It may sound funny, but know it's true
I hope you get it, before I'm through, I hope you do
I miss the strawman, and dottie two
I've heard the lyin', the tinman's blue
I've seen the witches, both good and bad, I'm glad I had
I held the rabbit, the rabbit died
Talked to the preacher, the preacher lied
I held my mother, my mother cried
Cried for my father
And so please don't talk about life to me
I've seen more than most people my age have seen
And there ain't no rules on how it's gotta be
Think again
Oh and please don't talk about love to me
'Cause I've given love and I've received
And you know I'm gonna love just who I please
Think again
I crossed an ocean and wrote this song
A million people, but I can't find one
I loved Katrina, but now she's gone, gone to my father
This here's a story, I sing for you
It may sound funny, but know it's true
I hope you get it, before I'm through, I hope you do
(Chorus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADL3WRSfwjI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADL3WRSfwjI)
Dorothy, Scarecrow, Tinman, Rabbits! :o
Kat. :cry:
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[youtube:xjc4ujhx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADL3WRSfwjI[/youtube:xjc4ujhx]
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@Ioma Thank you for embedding that. I've got a lot going on today. ;)
L.O.V.E. all.....
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Anytime. ;)
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Latest tweet:
Cleaning house today
My thoughts:
Goodbye, Grace. :lol:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz ... Paris.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/821761/MICHAEL-Jacksonrsquos-nanny-fired-after-clash-with-his-daughter-Paris.html)
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purge)
L.O.V.E. to alll
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I'm thinking more and more about stopping to follow this account. It's interesting, but sooo boring. Nothing is build. It goes everywhere with no end. I mean I sometime have the feeling that he's making research on google and when he finds something weird enough about Michael or Prince or social issue, he twitts it and let us make links that maybe even not exist !
I'm a bit fed up with this behaviour and I am actually fed up to read someone I don't even know the name !
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Not sure if this connects in any way to thisisalmostit's latest tweet, but i find it at least strange, Timor's tweet 4 hours before thisisalmostit tweeted the cleaning thing:
'In rehearsals....today cleaning time...@La La land'
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'lala land'? what's that? but that makes it all the more weird that timor tweets 'cleaning' as well...this is confusing. and right: the tweets jump from trivia to expert knowledge. i still have no idea what to make fo it all but it does seem too related to 'news' sometimes. and then again not... :roll:
i just got into the habit of googling the tweets or keywords and see what comes up. strange thing is that you get a mike-connection EVERY time and then it might be one that's not really too obvious. not the stuff you would find filed under 'michael jackson'. it kinda gets me how all this is still connected in a way, although the tweets seem random. like the tweets are forming a thread of sorts or leading up to something.
*sigh* back to my padded cell...
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cleaning time @ la la land
la la land:
1. A place renowned for its frivolous activity.
2. A state of mind characterized by unrealistic expectations or a lack of seriousness.
http://www.answers.com/topic/la-la-land
3. Los Angeles
Fits all together IMHO. ;)
But it's trivia.
4. http://www.lalalandrecords.com/
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Latest tweet: "Learn from everyone, but follow no one".
http://www.ted.com/talks/scott_mccloud_on_comics.html (http://www.ted.com/talks/scott_mccloud_on_comics.html)
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@grace: thx for the further info. never heard the term before, will check. i'm fryin' my brain finding more and more stuff and connections...just too effin' MUCH!!! :shock:
latest tweet: ''Learn from everyone,but follow no one.'' goes on with: 'look for patterns, work like hell' - so it's only half the original quote
@mjintrigue: you were 2 minutes faster than me, i had the same link! :lol: when i submitted, yours came up, so i deleted mine.
i have no clue whatsoever anymore...this stuff goes from monsanto to the simpsons to prince back to mike to comics and whatnot...gaaahhh...
back to my padded cell...
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That's too funny @tabloidburn!!! LOL. I'm reminded of "Fated", MJ's and Gotham Chopra's comic book, due out in June. I can imagine that Michael enjoys the TED talks...they are very interesting. This talk has a certain "Michael-esque" quality. IDK. I probably will pass you on the way back to MY padded cell! :?
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For those, who can't perfectly understand english after hearing (myself too..... ;) ):
Learn from Everyone, Follow No One, Watch for Patterns, and Work like Hell
Scott McCloud, who is a comic strip artist that sometimes takes the medium and the ideas behind it in unexpected directions. Scott mentions four principles which is to examine how we can all become independent thinkers that sometimes learn socially, but remain true to ourselves and determine our own learning paths in a complex, rapidly changing world.
Scott’s four basic principles are:
1. Learn from Everyone
2. Follow No One
3. Watch for Patterns
4. Work like Hell
These principles are simple, yet extremely powerful as a guiding philosophy for the self-directed learner in the 21st Century. Principle number one, learn from everyone, tells us that in a time when knowledge is becoming highly dynamic, we have to find ways to remain plugged in to streams of thought and we do this best by interacting socially with others and learning from them. For the self-directed learner, principle number two, follow no one is critical. Even though we must form connections to learn socially, we have to safeguard independent thought so that new ideas and perspectives can rise freely, assuring that our networks will continue to thrive with creativity and innovation. Principle number three is watching for patterns. Identifying patterns and being able to act quickly on that information will be one of the highly sought-after skills in the 21st Century. This skill always has been important, but in a rapidly changing world this skill becomes critical. The final principle, Work like Hell, is obvious and doesn’t need much explanation. Hard, focused, dedicated effort is what always separates the dreamers from the innovators. It is McCloud’s call to action.
Together, these principles say it all. They are simple yet effective guidelines as we go about determining our personal learning paths and deciding how we will direct our own learning in a world of complexity.
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That's too funny @tabloidburn!!! LOL. I'm reminded of "Fated", MJ's and Gotham Chopra's comic book, due out in June. I can imagine that Michael enjoys the TED talks...they are very interesting. This talk has a certain "Michael-esque" quality. IDK. I probably will pass you on the way back to MY padded cell! :?
*high-fivin' you in the hallway*
:mrgreen:
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That's too funny @tabloidburn!!! LOL. I'm reminded of "Fated", MJ's and Gotham Chopra's comic book, due out in June. I can imagine that Michael enjoys the TED talks...they are very interesting. This talk has a certain "Michael-esque" quality. IDK. I probably will pass you on the way back to MY padded cell! :?
*high-fivin' you in the hallway*
:mrgreen:
I watched TII as I cleaned-up my padded cell today. Yes, this account is very Michaelesque. Well, it is back to my padded cell for a rest! Blessings to all. xxxxxx
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New:
"Kind of galling when you realize that nutbags with cardboard signs had it right the whole time"
It's a quote from 2012....
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And again a new one:
'Acts 2'
But unfortunately i'm not good in interpreting the Bible, so need help guys! :)
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I am not about to give an interpretation of Acts 2 :lol:
But here it is:
Acts 2 (New International Version)
Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.
5Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. 7Utterly amazed, they asked: "Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11 (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs-we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!" 12Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, "What does this mean?"
13Some, however, made fun of them and said, "They have had too much wine."
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: "Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning! 16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19I will show wonders in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.'[c]
22"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25David said about him:
" 'I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will live in hope,
27because you will not abandon me to the grave,
nor will you let your Holy One see decay.
28You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.'[e]
29"Brothers, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31Seeing what was ahead, he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ,[f] that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay. 32God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact. 33Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,
" 'The Lord said to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
35until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet." '[g]
36"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
37When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?"
38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call."
40With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation." 41Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
The Fellowship of the Believers
42They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2&version=NIV)
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unbelievable. i just tweeted you this...is this getting creepy here? now we're in the telepathy thing, or what?
*back to my padded cell, high-fiving y'all in the hallway*
:mrgreen:
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New:
"Kind of galling when you realize that nutbags with cardboard signs had it right the whole time"
It's a quote from 2012....
Oh, I hope that this quote is confirming that WE (the beLIEvers) are the "nutbags"!!! :lol:
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@truthseeker:
just checked while i was allowed outta my padded cell for a hot sec. i had a different link but on the same church holiday, which was yesterday (pentecost or whitsunday) and is also a holiday still here in germany.
http://bible.org/article/pentecostal-ex ... udy-acts-2 (http://bible.org/article/pentecostal-experience-study-acts-2)
:mrgreen:
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@truthseeker:
just checked while i was allowed outta my padded cell for a hot sec. i had a different link but on the same church holiday, which was yesterday (pentecost or whitsunday) and is also a holiday still here in germany.
http://bible.org/article/pentecostal-ex ... udy-acts-2 (http://bible.org/article/pentecostal-experience-study-acts-2)
:mrgreen:
Thanks for finding this summary of Pentecost, @ tabloidburn! I've got some reading to do!
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I hope we're not getting a link in the following sequence to Ascension Island - some speculated this would be a hide-out for some people.
http://www.ascension-island.gov.ac/aig/ascension-island-about.htm
We've come a long way. ;)
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New:
"Kind of galling when you realize that nutbags with cardboard signs had it right the whole time"
It's a quote from 2012....
Lookie what I found! It's the Sonyrazzi! :lol:
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unbelievable. i just tweeted you this...is this getting creepy here? now we're in the telepathy thing, or what?
*back to my padded cell, high-fiving y'all in the hallway*
:mrgreen:
High-fivin' ALL Y'ALL in the hallway! :lol:
When they let me back out, I'll be back! :mrgreen:
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I hope we're not getting a link in the following sequence to Ascension Island - some speculated this would be a hide-out for some people.
http://www.ascension-island.gov.ac/aig/ascension-island-about.htm
We've come a long way. ;)
military base? no indigenous people? 'wideawake airfield'? ... this place seems LOCKED to the public! ...back to my cell! QUICK! :shock: :lol: :shock: :lol:
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I hope we're not getting a link in the following sequence to Ascension Island - some speculated this would be a hide-out for some people.
http://www.ascension-island.gov.ac/aig/ascension-island-about.htm
We've come a long way. ;)
military base? no indigenous people? 'wideawake airfield'? ... this place seems LOCKED to the public! ...back to my cell! QUICK! :shock: :lol: :shock: :lol:
I'm right behind you! :o :lol:
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I hope we're not getting a link in the following sequence to Ascension Island - some speculated this would be a hide-out for some people.
http://www.ascension-island.gov.ac/aig/ascension-island-about.htm
We've come a long way. ;)
military base? no indigenous people? 'wideawake airfield'? ... this place seems LOCKED to the public! ...back to my cell! QUICK! :shock: :lol: :shock: :lol:
I'm right behind you! :o :lol:
Ok, Mr. or Mrs. Thisisalmostit. We are all nicely tucked back in our little cells, straight jackets are on. Please bring on the next clue (holds breath in anticipation)!
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I knew I should have stayed in my little padded cell with my comfy jacket on.
http://www.preparetoascend.com/ (http://www.preparetoascend.com/)
click on the trailer
look similar to something in TII?
OH. MY. GOD. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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I knew I should have stayed in my little padded cell with my comfy jacket on.
http://www.preparetoascend.com/ (http://www.preparetoascend.com/)
click on the trailer
OH. MY. GOD. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
PCB Productions is in Encino, CA!
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I knew I should have stayed in my little padded cell with my comfy jacket on.
http://www.preparetoascend.com/ (http://www.preparetoascend.com/)
click on the trailer
OH. MY. GOD. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
PCB Productions is in Encino, CA!
Okay! I'm going back to my comfy little cell, and I'm not coming back out. Come and get me when it's all over. :lol:
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Prepare to Ascend -- PCB Productions. Check out the website for the production company:
http://www.gamasutra.com/contractors/co ... or_id=1287 (http://www.gamasutra.com/contractors/contractor_display.php?contractor_id=1287)
Hmmm... :shock:
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Prepare to Ascend -- PCB Productions. Check out the website for the production company:
http://www.gamasutra.com/contractors/co ... or_id=1287 (http://www.gamasutra.com/contractors/contractor_display.php?contractor_id=1287)
Hmmm... :shock:
clients include: Sony, Activision, Microsoft, UbiSoft, Universal, Disney, Nintendo, Boeing, Namco, Capitol, Electronic Arts, and Fox.
http://www.pcbproductions.com/ (http://www.pcbproductions.com/)
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reads like mike's favorite arcade games...and here we go with sony again...*sigh* i gotta go and meet thruthseeker. we're having a cellblock conference...
:mrgreen:
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I think I got that a bit wrong. Gamasutra (the link I provided), contracts out to PCB Productions.
http://www.pcbproductions.com/ (http://www.pcbproductions.com/)
Let's look at that site a bit, shall we?!! :geek:
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I think I got that a bit wrong. Gamasutra (the link I provided), contracts out to PCB Productions.
http://www.pcbproductions.com/ (http://www.pcbproductions.com/)
Let's look at that site a bit, shall we?!! :geek:
http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion ... VE441S.mp3 (http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion/RESOURCEfiles/music/contmp3/BELIEVE441S.mp3)
"We Believe." Very interesting.
http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion ... enedit.mp3 (http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion/RESOURCEfiles/music/infectant/oneofthechosenedit.mp3)
"One of the Chosen". Do I hear a "HO!" in there, MJ style, at .49 seconds? lol
http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion ... music.html (http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion/HTMLfiles/music/music.html)
And the best of all:
"Infectant" "I'm alive!"
http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion ... ntedit.mp3 (http://www.pcbproductions.com/contagion/RESOURCEfiles/music/infectant/infectantedit.mp3)
*Runs back to cell, locks door, throws key OUT THE BARRED WINDOW!* :mrgreen:
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If you google "pcb" and "Michael Jackson", you can get this page:
http://www.segaresurrection.com (http://www.segaresurrection.com)
Sega Ressurection!!! Look at what games you can resurrect -- Michael Jackson's Moonwalker is on the list. Not related to PCB Productions, but another type of "pcb" (printed circuit board). So many interconnections!
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If you google "pcb" and "Michael Jackson", you can get this page:
http://www.segaresurrection.com (http://www.segaresurrection.com)
Sega Ressurection!!! Look at what games you can ressurect -- Michael Jackson's Moonwalker is on the list. Not related to PCB Productions, but another type of "pcb" (printed circuit board). So many interconnections!
When your resurrection kit arrives.......
you should be able to......
power the game up.
I will arrange to get the key data and program roms dumped. In return for this I will provide a free resurrection kit for your game.
You now have a resurrected game.
But when I hear PCB, I think of this:
http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/tsd/ ... ffects.htm (http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/tsd/pcbs/pubs/effects.htm)
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i thought of psycheledic drugs first, too. must be an age thing.
but this game stuff is pretty eerie again. i'm starting to think that some of those tweets are 'instructed'. i don't think that mike is actually working accounts himself, but probably checks the reaction. at least that seems to be a possibility.
i also remember the sega-moonwalker game. the way this all looks, i think there should be a whole lot of stuff like that coming our way. games and all that...and most importantly: coming from other companies than sony. i'm waiting on a 'ghost' game or something. or a re-release, cuz that wasn't sony, either (kingdom entertainment).
and look what i found on my way to the padded cell. someone lost this ad in the hallway:
[attachment=0:1tyx1dzr]bad_straightjacket.jpg[/attachment:1tyx1dzr]
:mrgreen:
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and look what i found on my way to the padded cell. someone lost this ad in the hallway:
[attachment=0:3qcpv1h4]bad_straightjacket.jpg[/attachment:3qcpv1h4]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Gimme a couple of quarters. Where's the cell block pay phone? :mrgreen:
:mrgreen:
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i thought of psycheledic drugs first, too. must be an age thing.
but this game stuff is pretty eerie again. i'm starting to think that some of those tweets are 'instructed'. i don't think that mike is actually working accounts himself, but probably checks the reaction. at least that seems to be a possibility.
i also remember the sega-moonwalker game. the way this all looks, i think there should be a whole lot of stuff like that coming our way. games and all that...and most importantly: coming from other companies than sony. i'm waiting on a 'ghost' game or something. or a re-release, cuz that wasn't sony, either (kingdom entertainment).
and look what i found on my way to the padded cell. someone lost this ad in the hallway:
[attachment=0:1qq30qdg]bad_straightjacket.jpg[/attachment:1qq30qdg]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Gimme a couple of quarters. Where's the cell block pay phone? :mrgreen:
:mrgreen:
*ka-ching!* :mrgreen:
edit: phone is on the right of the security booth. throw the guard some peanut butter cups or some big red chewing gum and he'll let you use tha phone!
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Of course, there is the very real possibility that we are completely barking up the wrong tree!!! :|
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Of course, there is the very real possibility that we are completely barking up the wrong tree!!! :|
Uh-huh. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
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edit: phone is on the right of the security booth. throw the guard some peanut butter cups or some big red chewing gum and he'll let you use tha phone!
Hey, Mike! Want some Big Red? How about some Reese's cups?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Of course, there is the very real possibility that we are completely barking up the wrong tree!!! :|
yeah, well, who cares...i'm going for the fun of it now...it's interesting in any case. :mrgreen:
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If you are watching us, Mr. or Mrs.Thisisalsoit, could you throw us another bone soon! Please and thankyou! :P
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Latest tweet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86AAGZ9BBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86AAGZ9BBg)
[youtube:312dehca]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86AAGZ9BBg[/youtube:312dehca]
I thought I gave you some BigRed a minute ago?! :lol: :lol:
But seriously, thoughts?
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'i have come here to chew bubblegum and kick a$$ - and i ran out of bubblegum!'
...guess that leaves the a$$-kickin', right?
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I thought I just gave you some gum when I used the phone! Out already? Okay, here.
[youtube:2t658vez]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqO8N65vFpM[/youtube:2t658vez]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Ooh, ooh! Pick me, pick me! Is there going to be a remake? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334105/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334105/). If so, who might be behind it? Thanks for the quick response to my plea for another clue, Mr./Mrs. TIA(Almost)I!
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I tweeted: Not that you are Him, but......
[youtube:2nm0jfop]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLJlkYv8hw[/youtube:2nm0jfop]
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@truthseeker: that was absolutely beautiful.
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@truthseeker: that was absolutely beautiful.
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it. :)
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"Live" This is not a science fiction movie, Hollywood politics Openly present the reality of What Happens in Some movies. In order to minimize it, and leave the issue in a category of "entertainment"
Influence Our Decisions Without Us Knowing. Our senses They Without Us numb feeling. They control us Our Lives Without Realizing it. THEY LIVE. Live. Have I made this Literally, or it is not true to calm the public in the submission of subliminal advertising messages? They control us Our Lives Without Noticing. Living. Live. Literally I've done this, or not true to calm the public in the presentation of subliminal advertising messages?
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I knew I should have stayed in my little padded cell with my comfy jacket on.
http://www.preparetoascend.com/ (http://www.preparetoascend.com/)
click on the trailer
look similar to something in TII?
OH. MY. GOD. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Very powerful imagery. My two favorite men in the world:
My Lord and My Saviour Jesus Christ, and my baby, MJ! I am moving to tears. :( I am going back to my padded cell for a good cry :( . My blessings and my love to all. xxxx
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I knew I should have stayed in my little padded cell with my comfy jacket on.
http://www.preparetoascend.com/ (http://www.preparetoascend.com/)
click on the trailer
look similar to something in TII?
OH. MY. GOD. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Very powerful imagery. My two favorite men in the world:
My Lord and My Saviour Jesus Christ, and my baby, MJ! I am moved to tears. :( I am going back to my padded cell for a good cry :( . My blessings and my love to all. xxxx
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I thought we were placed into a "WE Hypnosis"?
Now it's a "THEY Paranoia"?
Remember: edutainment is very chic these days
and fire & destruction are ALWAYS used in conditioning movies.
(Disney is a good start-up.)
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thisisalmostit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8md3WhpXjU&feature=related
1 minute ago via web
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back to miss castaway...where's the ark? ...which species? ...when is the storm to be expected?
yo! agent mj! any answers to these questions?
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Latest tweet. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOw ... ature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4&NR=1&feature=fvwp)
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This video is for the film "The Great Dictator" Chaplin, despite the time is very effective.
The road of life can be free and beautiful; but we have lost the way. The greed has poisoned the souls of men, has lifted the world hate barricades, has led us to the misery and killing the goose step. We have increased the speed. But we have locked ourselves inside. The machinery that provides abundant, has left us in destitution. Our science has made us cynics; our intelligence, hard and of feelings. We think too much and too little feel. We need more than machinery, humanity. We need more than intelligence, kindness and courtesy. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.
The aircraft and radio we have closer. The true nature of these advances calls for the goodness in man, calls for universal fraternity for the unity of all of us. Even now, my voice is reaching millions of people around the world, millions of men, women and desperate children, victims of a system that men tortured and imprisoned persons nocentes. To those who can hear me, I say: "No despair".
The disgrace that us has fallen over is greed, step the bitterness of men, that they fear the path of human progress. The hatred of men will pass, dictators will die and the power lost the people will return to the people. And while the men die, freedom will not perish ever.
Soldiers! Ye not delivered to these beasts, you despise you enslave, governing your lives; let them what to do, what to think, and what to feel! You force has made the statement that you have to average ration, you treated as to livestock and os used as cannon fodder. Fail you delivered these men denatured, these men machine intelligence and machine hearts! (I) you are not machines! Ye men! With the love of mankind in your hearts! Not hate! Only those that are not loved hate, which are not loved and the denatured!
Soldiers! Not fight for slavery! Fight for freedom!
In the 17th chapter of Saint Luke is written that the Kingdom of God is within man, not of a man or a group of men, but of all men! In you! You, the people have the power, the power to create machines, (j) the power to create happiness ' you, the people you have and! power to make this life free and beautiful, this life to a wonderful adventure. Therefore, on behalf of democracy, understood that power, let us all join. We will fight for a new world, a decent world, that will give men to work, that will give young people a future and elders security.
Promising you all this, the beasts have risen to power. But lie! They have not kept this promise. Will not meet it! Dictators are given freedom to themselves, but enslave the people. Now, let's to free the world, to end the national barriers to finish with greed, hatred and intolerance. Fight for a world of reason, a world in which science and progress carried happiness all of us. Soldiers, on behalf of democracy, let's!
Hannah, do you hear me? Wherever you're perched eyes! Check out Hannah! Clouds are disappearing! Sun is opening step them! We are out of the darkness and into the light! We are entering a new world, a kinder world, where men lift their greed, hatred and his brutality! Check out Hannah! Gave wings to the soul of man, and finally begins to fly! Fly to the Rainbow to the light of hope! Rising above the eyes, Hannah! Rising above the eyes!
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...Hope...
I'm sorry but I don't want to be an Emperor - that's not my business - I don't want to rule or conquer anyone.
I should like to help everyone if possible, Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another, human beings are like that.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
The way of life can be free and beautiful...
Chaplins most courageous movie - especially at a time when opposition wasn´t mainstream.
These words have not lost their significance to this day.
Bravo!
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...Hope...
I'm sorry but I don't want to be an Emperor - that's not my business - I don't want to rule or conquer anyone.
I should like to help everyone if possible, Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another, human beings are like that.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
The way of life can be free and beautiful...
Chaplins most courageous movie - especially at a time when opposition wasn´t mainstream.
These words have not lost their significance to this day.
Bravo!
you're right...and I absolutly love Chaplin!! He was a genius...just like Michael is!!
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In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
The way of life can be free and beautiful...
http://thevenusproject.com/ (http://thevenusproject.com/)
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New post (May 27)
Miss Castaway + Southpark = 2012
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Today's post:- Tony Clifton
Tony Clifton is a fictitious character created and often played by stand up comedian Andy Kaufman in the late 1970s. Characteristic of the many elaborate hoaxes and practical jokes Kaufman concocted, Clifton was not exclusively played by Kaufman—others stepped into the role on occasion—enabling Kaufman and his accomplices to create an air of confusion as to whether Clifton was a real person or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton)
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Clifton was not exclusively played by Kaufman—others stepped into the role on occasion—enabling Kaufman and his accomplices to create an air of confusion as to whether Clifton was a real person or not.
Very interesting... 8-)
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Movie
Kaufman and Zmuda wrote a screenplay for a Tony Clifton biography. However, the project was sidelined after the box office failure of Kaufman's first major motion picture Heartbeeps, in which he co-starred with Bernadette Peters as a robot who falls in love. In the screenplay Clifton dies at Cedar Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles from cancer. Five years later, Kaufman passes away at the same hospital from lung cancer. Some conspiracy-minded fans say that Kaufman was, with this screenplay, setting up what would be his greatest prank ever- faking his own death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton)
8-)
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I was just looking for some video's of Tony Clifton (Andy Kaufman) on YT. This one stood out to me like a sore thumb! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R3J0HOzzdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R3J0HOzzdI)
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Ok, this is an example of my lateral thinking (or complete insanity):
Tony clifton led me to Andy Kaufman, which led me to the 1999 movie about Kaufman (portrayed by Jim Carey) titled Man on the Moon, which led me to the song by R.E.M., "Man on the Moon", written for that movie. We all know that MJ "walks on the Moon".
Here's the R.E.M. video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos).
Here are the lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/manonthemoon.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/manonthemoon.html).
I see lots of imagery in the video that ties in with this journey. In the lyrics, I particularly like this part:
"If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon.
If you believe there's nothing up my sleeve, then nothing is cool."
The lyrics that I hear are "if you believe there's nothing up there to see" (referring to the Moon), not "...there's nothing up my sleeve". Comments welcome. What the? I've checked a few lyrics sites, and they either say "my sleeve", "his sleeve" or "their sleeve". But that isn't what Michael Stipe of R.E.M. is singing!!!! (to my ear).
If nothing else, it's a great song. I love R.E.M. And just to add a bit more lateral thinking, isn't REM what MJ was craving? He needed a good night's sleep, and resorted to Propofol to get it...NOT! He would have had no "REM" sleep from being "put under".
Back to my cell. Let me know if I need an extended stay! LOL. :shock:
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Weird, but I think there is another recently started thread going on in the forum regarding a possible connection between the MJ and Andy Kaufman Death Hoaxes....someone made a series of 5 videos about it, but I haven't had the time to watch them yet...I wonder if that person is aware of this latest twitter clue from This Is Almost It?....could someone who knows how please post a link to that thread for anyone who's interested? Thanks! :)
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Weird, but I think there is another recently started thread going on in the forum regarding a possible connection between the MJ and Andy Kaufman Death Hoaxes....someone made a series of 5 videos about it, but I haven't had the time to watch them yet...I wonder if that person is aware of this latest twitter clue from This Is Almost It?....could someone who knows how please post a link to that thread for anyone who's interested? Thanks! :)
I think this is it:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10197&p=172085&hilit=andy+kaufman#p171498 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10197&p=172085&hilit=andy+kaufman#p171498)
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well, looks like the 'fools with the signs were right all along' . great line-drawing here. this is exactly how it's supposed to be done! you take one thing and find more stuff and make conclusions, as out there as they may seem, but they make 'mike-sense'...y'all know what i mean? (i just KNOW you do!)
(that's like will smith sayin' in 'bad boys': 'from now on, i want you to shoot JUST LIKE THAT!'... :lol: :lol: :lol: )
i can't wait to see tony clifton show up again. or maybe we'll see a similar character soon... :mrgreen:
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Ok, this is an example of my lateral thinking (or complete insanity):
Tony clifton led me to Andy Kaufman, which led me to the 1999 movie about Kaufman (portrayed by Jim Carey) titled Man on the Moon, which led me to the song by R.E.M., "Man on the Moon", written for that movie. We all know that MJ "walks on the Moon".
Here's the R.E.M. video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos).
Here are the lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/manonthemoon.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/manonthemoon.html).
I see lots of imagery in the video that ties in with this journey. In the lyrics, I particularly like this part:
"If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon.
If you believe there's nothing up my sleeve, then nothing is cool."
The real lyrics are "if you believe there's nothing up there to see" (referring to the Moon), not "...there's nothing up my sleeve". What the? I've checked a few lyrics sites, and they either say "my sleeve", "his sleeve" or "their sleeve". But that isn't what Michael Stripe of R.E.M. is singing!!!!
If nothing else, it's a great song. I love R.E.M. And just to add a bit more lateral thinking, isn't REM what MJ was craving? He needed a good night's sleep, and resorted to Propofol to get it...NOT! He would have had no "REM" sleep from being "put under".
Back to my cell. Let me know if I need an extended stay! LOL. :shock:
That is SUCH a great song by REM! :D :D
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Ok, this is an example of my lateral thinking (or complete insanity):
Tony clifton led me to Andy Kaufman, which led me to the 1999 movie about Kaufman (portrayed by Jim Carey) titled Man on the Moon, which led me to the song by R.E.M., "Man on the Moon", written for that movie. We all know that MJ "walks on the Moon".
Here's the R.E.M. video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos).
Here are the lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/manonthemoon.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/manonthemoon.html).
I see lots of imagery in the video that ties in with this journey. In the lyrics, I particularly like this part:
"If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon.
If you believe there's nothing up my sleeve, then nothing is cool."
The real lyrics are "if you believe there's nothing up there to see" (referring to the Moon), not "...there's nothing up my sleeve". What the? I've checked a few lyrics sites, and they either say "my sleeve", "his sleeve" or "their sleeve". But that isn't what Michael Stripe of R.E.M. is singing!!!!
If nothing else, it's a great song. I love R.E.M. And just to add a bit more lateral thinking, isn't REM what MJ was craving? He needed a good night's sleep, and resorted to Propofol to get it...NOT! He would have had no "REM" sleep from being "put under".
Back to my cell. Let me know if I need an extended stay! LOL. :shock:
That is SUCH a great song by REM! :D :D
I Wikipedia'ed the song Man in the Moon:
"The title, video, and lyrics are a reference to the conspiracy theory that the American moon landing was faked. There have also been rumors that Andy Kaufman faked his death. The lyrics make no direct reference to this or a connection between the two, but they do imply that Kaufman should not be seen as having "nothing up his sleeve." (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Moon_(song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Moon_(song)).
The song was released in 1992 and the movie was released in 1999. So the song was not written for the movie, as I previously stated. I didn't do enough homework before my initial post! :oops:
Typo earlier...the lead singer of R.E.M. is Michael Stipe, not Michael Stripe. Sorry about that!
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New:
Where is the L.O.V.E?
http://www.tinyurl.com/ygmynwr (http://www.tinyurl.com/ygmynwr)
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New:
Where is the L.O.V.E?
http://www.tinyurl.com/ygmynwr (http://www.tinyurl.com/ygmynwr)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Is_the_Love%3F (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Is_the_Love%3F)
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/blackeye ... elove.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/blackeyedpeas/whereisthelove.html)
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re: 'were is the love'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZl39hTQ ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZl39hTQdu0&feature=related)
this is the version roberta flack and donny hathaway did, was a huuuge hit in 1972. that version was also recorded by helen reddy AND...(*drum roll*)...STEPHANIE MILLS also did one! now what to make of THAT... :?
*back to my padded cell*
:mrgreen:
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*crawlin' back out*
latest tweet:
Sowing the seeds of love http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx (http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx)
famous 80's hit by tears for fears...note the sunflowers and illuminiati symbols here...tears for fears had a few hits, were very active for ca. 10 yrs...then quiet between 1996 and 2004, now doing 'small gigs'..silenced?
*crawlin' back*
:mrgreen:
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*crawlin' back out*
latest tweet:
Sowing the seeds of love http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx (http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx)
famous 80's hit by tears for fears...note the sunflowers and illuminiati symbols here...tears for fears had a few hits, were very active for ca. 10 yrs...then quiet between 1996 and 2004, now doing 'small gigs'..silenced?
*crawlin' back*
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I've got that CD -
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Oh didn't we have that one done already?
TIAlsoI is late or copying from us.
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@grace:
i think so, too. it's like playing slow ping pong with tweets...boriiing...some tweets are interesting, but right now, i don't see a thread or anything, just random stuff that seems to be responding to what goes on here.
especially with everyone discussing issues like the oil spill, more people recently passing (paul gray, gary coleman and just today: dennis hopper), it seems a bit inconsiderate to be tweetin' that kinda stuff now... :cry:
*back to my cell*
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@tabloidburn
I am so sorry for Dennis Hopper. May he rest in peace. My condolences to his family and friends.
We grew up with him.
Those days were marked by trying new paths, resistance, breaking traditions, raising voices, standing up, youth shouting at establishment, demonstrations, peace movement.
Not so much has changed as to realities since then.
Just the shouting mouths have been silenced by consumer goods.
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With all the information we are getting, this tweet stands out to me, and I find that I'm asking this question to myself a lot!
What is more important,,, the message or the messenger?
1:33 PM May 17th via web
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*crawlin' back out*
latest tweet:
Sowing the seeds of love http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx (http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx)
famous 80's hit by tears for fears...note the sunflowers and illuminiati symbols here...tears for fears had a few hits, were very active for ca. 10 yrs...then quiet between 1996 and 2004, now doing 'small gigs'..silenced?
*crawlin' back*
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I've got that CD -
Did anyone notice the name of the person who posted this on youtube and the date? Just coincidence maybe but then maybe not. Could Michael have posted this in preparation for this time?
mikedec07 — July 22, 2008 — one of my favorite 80's song
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Sow the seeds of love... a great ideal, great hope... we must firmly believe this idea... we are going to propose to us to leave our love with uppercase inside, to life, to my similar love, nature, animals to myself... change, grow, learn and unlearn.... and love :D
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Regarding the Tears for Fears reference....the first thing I thought of were the lyrics to Jam: (scroll down a bit)
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Nation To Nation
All The World
Must Come Together
Face The Problems
That We See
Then Maybe Somehow We Can Work It Out
I Asked My Neighbor
For A Favor
She Said Later
What Has Come Of
All The People
Have We Lost Love
Of What It's About
I Have To Find My Peace Cuz
No One Seems To Let Me Be
False Prophets Cry Of Doom
What Are The Possibilities
I Told My Brother
There'll Be Problems,
Times And Tears For Fears,
We Must Live Each Day
Like It's The Last
Go With It
Go With It
Jam
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't Too Much
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out
I Told My Brothers
Don't You Ask Me
For No Favors
I'm Conditioned By
The System
Don't You Talk To Me
Don't Scream And Shout
She Pray To God, To Buddha
Then She Sings A
Talmud Song
Confusions Contradict
The Self
Do We Know Right
From Wrong
I Just Want You To
Recognize Me
In The Temple
You Can't Hurt Me
I Found Peace
Within Myself
Go With It
Go With It
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't Too Much
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't Too Much
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
[Rap Performed By Heavy D]
Jam Jam
Here Comes The Man
Hot Damn
The Big Boy Stands
Movin' Up A Hand
Makin' Funky Tracks
With My Man
Michael Jackson
Smooth Criminal
That's The Man
Mike's So Relaxed
Mingle Mingle Jingle
In The Jungle
Bum Rushed The Door
3 And 4's In A Bundle
Execute The Plan
First I Cooled Like A Fan
Got With Janet
Then With Guy
Now With Michael
Cause It Ain't Hard To...
[Michael]
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't Too Much
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
Get On It
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't Stop
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
It Ain't Too Hard For Me
To Jam [9x]
Get On It
Jam
It Ain't
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't Too Much
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't Too Much
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Jam
Too Much
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To
Get On It
Get On It
Give It Baby
Give It To Me
Come On
You Really Give It Too Me
Got To Give It
You Just Want To Give It
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And of course, the entire lyric to Jam fits Mike's purpose for the HOAX! DAMN!
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With all the information we are getting, this tweet stands out to me, and I find that I'm asking this question to myself a lot!
What is more important,,, the message or the messenger?
1:33 PM May 17th via web
The message is the most important. To me, the message is that from TII:
Everybody's doing a great job.
Let's continue
and believe and have faith.
Give me your all, your endurance,
your patience, and your understanding.
But it's an adventure,
it's a great adventure.
It's nothing to be nervous about.
They just want wonderful
experiences, they want escapism.
We wanna take them places
that they've never been before.
We wanna show them talent
like they've never seen before.
So give your all.
And I love you all.
And we're a family.
Just know that.
We're a family.
That's right.
Amen.
We're putting love back into the world to
remind the world that love is important.
Love is important. To love each other.
We're all one. That's the message.
And take care of the planet.
We have four years to get it right or else
it's irreversible, the damage we've done.
So we have an important
message to give.
Okay? It's important.
But I thank you for your cooperation
so far. Thank you. Big thank you.
Blessings! Blessings to all.
However, the messenger, MJ, is my baby! I love him with all my heart. So both the message and the messenger carry equal weight for me. MJ, Daddy, I love you and I want you to come home as soon as you can. I will be here waiting and praying for God to wrap you in his loving arms for protection. I love you, baby! xxxxx
I am going back to padded cell now! 8-)
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The message and the messenger, Michael Jackson are inseparable! You can't have one without the other. Like the chicken and the egg problem
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The message and the messenger, Michael Jackson are inseparable! You can't have one without the other. Like the chicken and the egg problem
I agree with you 100%, Michael Jackson and his message do go hand-in-hand. There is a very definite message/common theme behind these tweets, which makes me go "hmmm". To whomever you may be, Thisisalmostit, you and your message have been very important to me. Thankyou. :)
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With all the information we are getting, this tweet stands out to me, and I find that I'm asking this question to myself a lot!
What is more important,,, the message or the messenger?
1:33 PM May 17th via web
I believe that a message can be more important than the messenger.
However, so as not to become a plaything for certain partys, the direction where the messenger is coming from should be clearly recognisable.
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*crawlin' back out*
latest tweet:
Sowing the seeds of love http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx (http://tinyurl.com/26bslkx)
famous 80's hit by tears for fears...note the sunflowers and illuminiati symbols here...tears for fears had a few hits, were very active for ca. 10 yrs...then quiet between 1996 and 2004, now doing 'small gigs'..silenced?
*crawlin' back*
:mrgreen:
I've got that CD -
Did anyone notice the name of the person who posted this on youtube and the date? Just coincidence maybe but then maybe not. Could Michael have posted this in preparation for this time?
mikedec07 — July 22, 2008 — one of my favorite 80's song
that's right...i read that and went like: huh? but then it kinda went past me again cuz i couldn't put the 'dec07'-part anywhere and there's tons of mikes and michaels out there anyway. i also think that a lot of info we're getting was prepared in advance, of course. my take is also that there are accounts operated by others but instructed by mike himself in terms of which info will be posted at a particular time. thisisalmostit looks like it could be one.
i find it very weird that there was no mention at all on dennis hopper, especially since mike is such a movie freak and dennis hopper is also very well known for his activities outside of the movie biz. orchestrated tweets could be an explanation for that.
*back to cellblock no.7*
:mrgreen:
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Newest tweet
Luke 12:2
Luke 12:2-3 (New International Version)
2There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 3What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs
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Newest tweet
Luke 12:2
Luke 12:2-3 (New International Version)
2There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
3What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A2-3&version=NIV)
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Well, I prefer the King James Version myself and the only tweeted 12:2 not 2 & 3 :lol:
For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
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Well, I prefer the King jams Version myself and the only tweeted 12:2 not 2 & 3 :lol:
For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
You are absolutely right Serenity's_Dream. Thank you for pointing that out. ;)
I like the King James version too. :D
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The wisdom of life teaches that in life, the true nature of people cannot remain long hidden. What we consider our big secrets, eventually end up demonstrating: "nothing is hidden or concealed that not being discovered there know". :)
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My favorite saying I use a lot is, "The more you know, the more you realize how little you know." From the beginning of this hoax, I always felt I was getting to the bottom of things, priding myself on really getting to know Michael. But now, I realize I just know about more mysteries and secrets I didn't know were there before. The journey has been fun though. This verse reminds me of the verse in 1 Corinthians 13:12 "For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I now in part, but then I shall know fully just as I also have been fully known" in the Love chapter. After all this tantalizing mystery, what a sweet delicious pleasure it will be to know what Michael will himself reveal.
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Latest post:-
The kings are dead, long live the kings
thisisalsoit.com Redirected to: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=10384#p174363 today. Coincidence???
jacilovesmichael wrote:
GINAFELICIA wrote:
Looks like Elvis really faked his death.
I can't get over Michael's connection to Elvis - through Lisa.
Michael stated he was afraid not to die like Elvis. He discussed it with Lisa.
And yet he "died" like Elvis.
The connection is obvious to me.
That's what I'm thinking too... what would be awesome is if both king's revealed their fake deaths around the same time. That would REALLY wake the world up, especially if Elvis is concerned about the things Mike is concerned about.
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And the appointment of a "new king" in replacement of that "died" the King of rock died, he died the King of Pop.
This rule was established in the England in the late '17 ' 8-)
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The "Kings": http://www.popsense.com/2009/06/kings-a ... kings.html (http://www.popsense.com/2009/06/kings-are-dead-long-live-kings.html).
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mjintrigue2012, good article, I always remember the words of Jermaine on 6/25/2009, "my brother is dead, the legendary King of Pop." What will be the new king? ;)
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Thankyou, paula-c. Notice the reference to "Generation Y" at the end of the article. Wasn't one of our clues "Y"? And, yes, the question is...who is going to fill the shoes of the "Kings" for the next generation! Tough acts to follow!
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mjintrigue2012, good article, I always remember the words of Jermaine on 6/25/2009, "my brother is dead, the legendary King of Pop." What will be the new king? ;)
KO in TII say : a church! a church of rock and roll... always thinking what he really mean by that? :roll:
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mjintrigue2012, good article, I always remember the words of Jermaine on 6/25/2009, "my brother is dead, the legendary King of Pop." What will be the new king? ;)
KO in TII say : a church! a church of rock and roll... always thinking what he really mean by that? :roll:
I think he said it because the dancers were watching him like he was a preacher.
LMAO! I though it was cute. ;)
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mjintrigue2012, good article, I always remember the words of Jermaine on 6/25/2009, "my brother is dead, the legendary King of Pop." What will be the new king? ;)
KO in TII say : a church! a church of rock and roll... always thinking what he really mean by that? :roll:
I think he said it because the dancers were watching him like he was a preacher.
LMAO! I though it was cute. ;)
http://allforloveblog.com/?p=975 (http://allforloveblog.com/?p=975). PS. I love Google searches!
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Are we the generation "Y"?
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Generation Y is a term that is used to define the successor population cohort and includes people born between 1982 and 1992 worldwide.
Depends on your date of birth Gema, according to Wikipedia :mrgreen:
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1977!
I am a Y, yipiiieeeeee :? :lol:
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http://allforloveblog.com/?p=975 (http://allforloveblog.com/?p=975). PS. I love Google searches!
. wait.. what? :|
Please make yourself clear.
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http://allforloveblog.com/?p=975 (http://allforloveblog.com/?p=975). PS. I love Google searches!
. wait.. what? :|
Please make yourself clear.
@loma...I'm sorry that I was not clear. I meant that I Googled "Church of Rock and Roll", because there was some discussion earlier, and I found a nice blog entry with regards to it. I do love to research things, so I quite like to "Google". :)
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Michael Jackson possible twitter research: twitter.com/thisisalmostit
Tweet breakdowns, most recent to oldest.
May 31st
Luke 12:2- The time is coming when everything that is covered up will be revealed, and all that is secret will be made known to all.
May 29th
Sowing the Seeds of Love music video- alot of sunflowers in the video which were a favorite of Michael. Also at 0:53 one can see a pyramid, also relates to the MJ and David Blaine conspiracy.
May 29th
Where is the Love Black Eyed Peas music video- Strong suggestions of Michaels strong emotions of love and the L.O.V.E of MJ
May 28th
Tony Clifton- A fictious charecter made by Andy Kaufman, some conspisists point out that Kaufman may have tried to fake his own death and do a hoax of his own in the late 70's which he thought would be the greatest prank ever.
May 27th
Miss Castaway+South Park= 2012- Now this post was rather odd but under my analysis I have determined that in the Movie Miss Castaway the film is about the protection of an Ark. Now the south park reference seems to be pointing to the episode of Michael jackson in which an image very similar to the Ark of the Covenant is seen in the episode. These could be related to predictions of religious wars with the finding of the Ark of the Covenant and lead to a new world order. I find this post as very indirect but informative.
May 26th
Charlie Chaplin video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOw ... ature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4&NR=1&feature=fvwp) Now I find this one interesting, it is a good speech that I feel reflected MJ's beliefs greatly. This is a possiblility of what MJ thinks the new order will be like and is harder to interpret but it seems this entire speech is motive for MJ to hoax, then return as a new person.
May 25th
Michael Jackson part in Miss Castaway.- This further reflects Michaels thoughts on what I earlier said about the significance of the Ark of the Covenant in this. This could be hinting to something bigger than I can determine but I will look more into this.
May 24th
They Live Trailer video- In this video it is about one man who sees what other cannot so he takes it into his own hands to fix what is wrong. This reflects theories on the hoax and how Michael is fixing wrongs by faking his death. Also right at the end of the trailer at 1:29 you can see there is a figure that looks like something out of the Thriller Music video.
May 24th
Acts 2- This verse talks about the Coming of the Holy Spirit, and how the world is renewed by this coming. This makes me lean in the direction as a metaphor, with MJ being the holy spirit.
May 24th
Quote- Quote by actor Oliver Platt in the movie 2012, which could lead to the belief that some people think MJ knows the world will end in 2012.
May 23rd
Quote- ''Learn from everyone,but follow no one.''
May 22nd
Cleaning house today. Just a simple statement but shows that if twitter is legit, then Michael is obviously in Neverland or another one of his homes.
May 22nd
Leon Kompowsky- As seen in the simpsons. This site explains all http://leonkompowsky.com/ (http://leonkompowsky.com/)
May 21st
Monsanto- Agriculture product company that is a common attack target of enviromentalist groups. They are a company that makes artifical seeds and pesticides.
May 18th
Lotusflower- Flower of Egypt. This could be a hint revealing the whereabouts of MJ.
May 11th
Prince video interview- In this video Prince talks about MJ in the present tense as if he is still alive and he tells every to wait and see what is coming and that everyone must come home and just wait and see. This hints to the hoax and could be a slipup or could be intentional.
May 5th
Akashic records- Has to do with religion and goes very deep read this link to see info. http://www.crystalinks.com/akashicrecords.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/akashicrecords.html)
May 3rd
Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ?- Reference to the Paul McCartney death hoax coverup. This is one of the first but not only references on this account by someone hoaxing death.
May 3rd
Peter Lopez- Lopez kills himself and the owner of the Twitter is affected by it. Lopez was a music lawyer for MJ early in his career and they knew eachother well.
May 2nd
Quote- " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway " Shows MJ planning the death hoax. Shows it very well.
May 2nd
Two links posted- One link showed a picture of MJ in the south park episode. It shows an image of the Ark of the covenant in the backround. Also the second link is a link stating that on June 26th the Ark of the Covenant will be revelead in Ethopia.
April 30th
1+1+1=3- Part of the song Come Together which was written by the Beatles and covered by MJ.
April 30th
Aphrodite Jones- True Crime host. Did a show on a Michael Jackson conspiracy in 2007 with the court cases in molestation.
April 29th
1984- The year MJ recieved serious burns while doing Billie Jean for Pepsi Co. Also the year the MJ doll was released.
April 29th
Lak'ech Ala K'in- As we near 2012 with all its doom and gloom prophecies, we have a moral obligation to Spirit to live the code of In Lak'ech Ala K'in. Another hint by the twitter to 2012.
April 29th
Exodus 32- When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, "Come, make us gods [a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don't know what has happened to him." A refence to a man in Egypt. Second time twitter owner refers to Egypt.
April 29th
egnahc a ekam neht dna flesruoy ta kool a ekaT- When reversed reads: Take a look at yourself and then make a change.
April 28th
Quote- Cant wait 4 July, something obviously happening in July this year.
I left out a few minor tweets but this account is almost certaintly MJ. All the posts are very detailed and specific to MJ's beliefs. This has to be MJ I am almost certain of that. I very much believe he is hinting to a June or July comeback.
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Thanks for posting this. I've never paid attention to this but thank you for the work you put in. I'm gonna watch this page now.
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Me too. Thankyou so much for all your hard work. It makes it so much easier to understand now. ;)
And Welcome to our family..xoxo As always with L.O.V.E xoxox :D
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@loma...I'm sorry that I was not clear. I meant that I Googled "Church of Rock and Roll", because there was some discussion earlier, and I found a nice blog entry with regards to it. I do love to research things, so I quite like to "Google". :)
:lol: I'm a google junkie too. Don't worry. I understand now.
I honestly don't see a new "King" happening anytime soon.
They REALLY have to deserve it. :ugeek:
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Thank you for posting this, hadn't read all the tweets yet, nice to see them with your analysis.
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Lisa Marry was just posted on twitter. What does that mean? :?
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Lisa Marry was just posted on twitter. What does that mean? :?
MARRY ME? LOL! :lol:
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I FOUND WEIRD THAT A LOT OF "MJS" ON TWITTER ARE FOLLOWING ASHTON KUTCHER, WHAT´S UP WITH HIM? IS HE A FRIEND OF MJ? :roll:
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Lisa Marry was just posted on twitter. What does that mean? :?
The date they were married maybe?
May 26, 1994
5 + 2 + 6 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 4 = 34
3 + 4 = 9
That she is aware that he is Alive and is involved in helping him hence the sunflower stories. I am thinking combined with the TIAI redirections that Elvis is the key here.
EDIT: to fix wrong numbers :oops:
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Lisa Marry was just posted on twitter. What does that mean? :?
Lisa Marie and Michael were married in 1994. January 1, 1994, "Jackson's insurance carrier settled a civil suit out of court with the Chandler Family and its legal team for $22 million against Jackson and his lawyer's wishes (Wikipedia).
In October, 1994, an article appeared in GQ Magazine by Mary A. Fischer, a journalist/author, entitled, "Was Michael Jackson Framed? The Untold Story". This article was a finalist for 1994 National Magazine Award. I found a copy of the article here: http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html (http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html).
A very good read.
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LM is married? :?:
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Lisa Marry was just posted on twitter. What does that mean? :?
The date they were married maybe?
May 26, 1994
3 + 2 + 6 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 4 = 34
3 + 4 = 7
But when it´s May, shouldn´t it be
5 + 2 + 6 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 4 ?
Or am I wrong?.. :?
That she is aware that he is Alive and is involved in helping him hence the sunflower stories.
This is more than likely imo.
I am thinking combined with the TIAI redirections that Elvis is the key here.
But does this necessarily mean that Elvis is still alive as well?
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Lisa Marry was just posted on twitter. What does that mean? :?
The date they were married maybe?
May 26, 1994
3 + 2 + 6 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 4 = 34
3 + 4 = 7
But when it´s May, shouldn´t it be
5 + 2 + 6 + 1 + 9 + 9 + 4 ?
Or am I wrong?.. :?
That she is aware that he is Alive and is involved in helping him hence the sunflower stories.
This is more than likely imo.
I am thinking combined with the TIAI redirections that Elvis is the key here.
But does this necessarily mean that Elvis is still alive as well?
oops you are right.
that would make it 9 not 7...lol
and I have no idea if Elvis is alive it appears TIAI is implying he is.
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1977!
I am a Y, yipiiieeeeee :? :lol:
no, you're an X...sorry
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latest tweet:
this is elvis
i answered: 'oh, well...hi there! how you've been?' :mrgreen:
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hahaah so did i! i wrote, " woo hoo, hi Elvis!"......hahahhahhahah
:D :D :D :D
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Do you think he's referring to Elvis' documentary? IDK if the person meant they were Elvis (literally) but it's funny how you responded anyway :)
Amazon.com
Originally released in 1981, Andrew Solt and Malcolm Leo's This Is Elvis was one of the first in-depth examinations of the life and work of Elvis Presley. Issued here in a two-disc set that pairs the theatrical version with a 1983 re-edit that adds some 40 minutes to the original, it combines newsreel footage, home movies, television and movie clips, and extensive re-enactments in an absorbing bio-documentary that's well worth watching--if only because interest in the singer apparently never diminishes (the 2007 DVD release date coincides with the 30th anniversary of Presley's death). The success (or failure, depending on one's point of view) of This Is Elvis rides in part on a single decision made by Solt and Leo, who co-produced, directed, and wrote the film: namely, to have the tale told by Presley himself. Not the real Presley, of course; Ral Donner, himself a rock singer of minor repute in the '50s and '60s, provides a reasonably authentic impersonation of Presley's voice (four on-screen actors portray him at various ages in the course of the film). Thus we have an "Elvis" who returns from beyond the grave to hold forth on such matters as the death of his beloved mother, his stint in the Army, his marriage to Priscilla and the birth of Lisa Marie, the skein of awful movies that preoccupied him during the '60s (thus sidelining him from the pop music scene while the Beatles and Bob Dylan were changing the world), and his descent into the maudlin, hyper-medicated fashion disaster that was Elvis in the '70s (his assessment: basically, "Geez, I wish I'd seen that coming"). It's nice to think that the actual Elvis could be so candid about both his successes and his missteps, but by and large this material is unconvincing, at best. Still, the real footage mostly makes up for it. Clips from his earliest TV appearances, even embarrassments like the Steve Allen show (on which the smug host had Presley wear formal attire and sing "Hound Dog" to an actual pooch), leave little doubt as to why he was the King; Presley's electrifying presence, not to mention his voice, great backup band, and seminal rock songs, were like nothing before or since. Had Solt and Leo dispensed with all the fakery and concentrated on the genuine article, their film would have been better for it. Sure, the final scenes of the fat, drugged-out Elvis onstage in his final months are brutal (a performance of "Loving You" featured in the longer edit is truly cringe-inducing), but they're part and parcel of the most fascinating and enduring story in American music history. --Sam Graham
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If it was meant to be a confession, he would have written it as
"This is Elvis".
But he wrote it all capital, so (EDIT: GUESS) it was meant to be a twist on
"This Is It".
It's the little things...but what could they mean? :?
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If it was meant to be a confession, he would have written it as
"This is Elvis".
But he wrote it all capital, so it was meant to be a twist on
"This Is It".
It's the little things...but what could they mean? :?
...exactly... :? :roll:
:mrgreen:
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If it was meant to be a confession, he would have written it as
"This is Elvis".
But he wrote it all capital, so it was meant to be a twist on
"This Is It".
It's the little things...but what could they mean? :?
...exactly... :? :roll:
:mrgreen:
I'm not following what you mean. Where is it in all cap's? :?
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I'm not following what you mean. Where is it in all cap's? :?
Oh sh*t.
*shuts up*
*goes back into cell*
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I think the person that posted the info on the documentary really hit the nail on the head with this one.
But this kinda makes me iffy about TIAlmostI. A quick google-job could have brought this up.
It seems to me now that this person is more into Elvis's case than Michael's.
But.. Elvis's case could be so crucial to the hoax!
:o 8-) :ugeek: :mrgreen: :lol: :|
I think I'm literally going insane.
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I think the person that posted the info on the documentary really hit the nail on the head with this one.
But this kinda makes me iffy about TIAlmostI. A quick google-job could have brought this up.
It seems to me now that this person is more into Elvis's case than Michael's.
But.. Elvis's case could be so crucial to the hoax!
:o 8-) :ugeek: :mrgreen: :lol: :|
I think I'm literally going insane.
Oh no, please don't go insane! We need you to have your wits about you when MJ returns! Whoever this person (Almost) is, he/she is just supplying information. Chew on a big grain of salt, but tuck the info at the back of your head. It may make more sense to us soon...or not. IMO, don't drive yourself crazy with this stuff. Just enjoy the process and let the info "simmer". We're nearing the end of our journey.
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Thanks for posting this, I have been following this on twitter, but now you lay it all out so clearly, it is so interesting to see this all together.
8-) :shock: :D
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Wit? :lol: Was that sarcasm?
I'm not the smartest or wittiest of the bunch.
But you're right.
Learning a thing or two about Elvis's supposed hoax couldn't hurt.
Who knows? Maybe some day I'll really believe Elvis is alive! :)
*chanting* New Tweet! NEW TWEET!
:lol:
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I think the person that posted the info on the documentary really hit the nail on the head with this one.
But this kinda makes me iffy about TIAlmostI. A quick google-job could have brought this up.
It seems to me now that this person is more into Elvis's case than Michael's.
But.. Elvis's case could be so crucial to the hoax!
:o 8-) :ugeek: :mrgreen: :lol: :|
I think I'm literally going insane.
Oh no, please don't go insane! We need you to have your wits about you when MJ returns! Whoever this person (Almost) is, he/she is just supplying information. Chew on a big grain of salt, but tuck the info at the back of your head. It may make more sense to us soon...or not. IMO, don't drive yourself crazy with this stuff. Just enjoy the process and let the info "simmer". We're nearing the end of our journey.
@voiceforthesilent, loma, mjintrigue
the parallel to the elvis movie is great. that could mean that we should really watch out for the sony-sequel and see how they put that together. as it is assumed that there were doubles used in 'this is it' already, who knows if they really have enough original material to put a decent sequel together. especially, if they intend to top the first one.
but honestly, i find this elvis-parallel very strange altogether. but i intend to watch this happening til the end. however that may be...i'm gonna be an official nutcase by then, but hey, what have i got to loose... :mrgreen:
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Wit? :lol: Was that sarcasm?
I'm not the smartest or wittiest of the bunch.
But you're right.
Learning a thing or two about Elvis's supposed hoax couldn't hurt.
Who knows? Maybe some day I'll really believe Elvis is alive! :)
*chanting* New Tweet! NEW TWEET!
:lol:
I had no intention of sounding sarcastic. I'm sorry if you took it that way. "Having your wits about you" is just a saying. Please don't underestimate yourself -- you seem very smart!
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@tabloidburn, voiceforthesilent, loma:
In reading the summary for the Elvis movie, it seems the "downfall" of the movie was an "impersonator" narrating the story. How cool would it be if MJ narrated his own story up to and including his "death". MJ, you have got some explaining to do! LOL
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I had no intention of sounding sarcastic. I'm sorry if you took it that way. "Having your wits about you" is just a saying. Please don't underestimate yourself -- you seem very smart!
Haha I understood you, but I can't have my wits about me anymore, I'm totally insane. LMAO
Thank you for the compliment though. :)
In my opinion, they couldn't make a sequel with impersonators
Because we have developed an Eagle Eye.
8-)
TII couldn't happen unless it was ALL real Michael this time.
Amiright?
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@tabloidburn, voiceforthesilent, loma:
In reading the summary for the Elvis movie, it seems the "downfall" of the movie was an "impersonator" narrating the story. How cool would it be if MJ narrated his own story up to and including his "death". MJ, you have got some explaining to do! LOL
that's what i meant...how could you possibly top 'this is it' when all you have is what wasn't used for the first movie. considering here, that the best scenes were already used and you don't wanna repeat yourself and have all those mad and angry fans to deal with, right?
:mrgreen:
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Michael doesn't have a Twitter account...
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mjintrigue2012, I'm thinking that Michael made his own narrative, and did not realize ...? have to think well and not fall into madness :lol:
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Souza I truley believe that no one can for sure say he doesnt have a twitter. And unless you yourself are Michael Jackson then I beLIEve that there is a twitter ran by MJ to leave subtle hints that involve reasearch.
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Michael Jackson possible twitter research: twitter.com/thisisalmostit
Tweet breakdowns, most recent to oldest.
May 31st
Luke 12:2- The time is coming when everything that is covered up will be revealed, and all that is secret will be made known to all.
May 29th
Sowing the Seeds of Love music video- alot of sunflowers in the video which were a favorite of Michael. Also at 0:53 one can see a pyramid, also relates to the MJ and David Blaine conspiracy.
May 29th
Where is the Love Black Eyed Peas music video- Strong suggestions of Michaels strong emotions of love and the L.O.V.E of MJ
May 28th
Tony Clifton- A fictious charecter made by Andy Kaufman, some conspisists point out that Kaufman may have tried to fake his own death and do a hoax of his own in the late 70's which he thought would be the greatest prank ever.
May 27th
Miss Castaway+South Park= 2012- Now this post was rather odd but under my analysis I have determined that in the Movie Miss Castaway the film is about the protection of an Ark. Now the south park reference seems to be pointing to the episode of Michael jackson in which an image very similar to the Ark of the Covenant is seen in the episode. These could be related to predictions of religious wars with the finding of the Ark of the Covenant and lead to a new world order. I find this post as very indirect but informative.
May 26th
Charlie Chaplin video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOw ... ature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4&NR=1&feature=fvwp) Now I find this one interesting, it is a good speech that I feel reflected MJ's beliefs greatly. This is a possiblility of what MJ thinks the new order will be like and is harder to interpret but it seems this entire speech is motive for MJ to hoax, then return as a new person.
May 25th
Michael Jackson part in Miss Castaway.- This further reflects Michaels thoughts on what I earlier said about the significance of the Ark of the Covenant in this. This could be hinting to something bigger than I can determine but I will look more into this.
May 24th
They Live Trailer video- In this video it is about one man who sees what other cannot so he takes it into his own hands to fix what is wrong. This reflects theories on the hoax and how Michael is fixing wrongs by faking his death. Also right at the end of the trailer at 1:29 you can see there is a figure that looks like something out of the Thriller Music video.
May 24th
Acts 2- This verse talks about the Coming of the Holy Spirit, and how the world is renewed by this coming. This makes me lean in the direction as a metaphor, with MJ being the holy spirit.
May 24th
Quote- Quote by actor Oliver Platt in the movie 2012, which could lead to the belief that some people think MJ knows the world will end in 2012.
May 23rd
Quote- ''Learn from everyone,but follow no one.''
May 22nd
Cleaning house today. Just a simple statement but shows that if twitter is legit, then Michael is obviously in Neverland or another one of his homes.
May 22nd
Leon Kompowsky- As seen in the simpsons. This site explains all http://leonkompowsky.com/ (http://leonkompowsky.com/)
May 21st
Monsanto- Agriculture product company that is a common attack target of enviromentalist groups. They are a company that makes artifical seeds and pesticides.
May 18th
Lotusflower- Flower of Egypt. This could be a hint revealing the whereabouts of MJ.
May 11th
Prince video interview- In this video Prince talks about MJ in the present tense as if he is still alive and he tells every to wait and see what is coming and that everyone must come home and just wait and see. This hints to the hoax and could be a slipup or could be intentional.
May 5th
Akashic records- Has to do with religion and goes very deep read this link to see info. http://www.crystalinks.com/akashicrecords.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/akashicrecords.html)
May 3rd
Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ?- Reference to the Paul McCartney death hoax coverup. This is one of the first but not only references on this account by someone hoaxing death.
May 3rd
Peter Lopez- Lopez kills himself and the owner of the Twitter is affected by it. Lopez was a music lawyer for MJ early in his career and they knew eachother well.
May 2nd
Quote- " I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway " Shows MJ planning the death hoax. Shows it very well.
May 2nd
Two links posted- One link showed a picture of MJ in the south park episode. It shows an image of the Ark of the covenant in the backround. Also the second link is a link stating that on June 26th the Ark of the Covenant will be revelead in Ethopia.
April 30th
1+1+1=3- Part of the song Come Together which was written by the Beatles and covered by MJ.
April 30th
Aphrodite Jones- True Crime host. Did a show on a Michael Jackson conspiracy in 2007 with the court cases in molestation.
April 29th
1984- The year MJ recieved serious burns while doing Billie Jean for Pepsi Co. Also the year the MJ doll was released.
April 29th
Lak'ech Ala K'in- As we near 2012 with all its doom and gloom prophecies, we have a moral obligation to Spirit to live the code of In Lak'ech Ala K'in. Another hint by the twitter to 2012.
April 29th
Exodus 32- When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, "Come, make us gods [a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don't know what has happened to him." A refence to a man in Egypt. Second time twitter owner refers to Egypt.
April 29th
egnahc a ekam neht dna flesruoy ta kool a ekaT- When reversed reads: Take a look at yourself and then make a change.
April 28th
Quote- Cant wait 4 July, something obviously happening in July this year.
I left out a few minor tweets but this account is almost certaintly MJ. All the posts are very detailed and specific to MJ's beliefs. This has to be MJ I am almost certain of that. I very much believe he is hinting to a June or July comeback.
Thank you for your hard work putting this together. It's very interesting to see them in order. I noticed the one below in reference to Egypt.
What peaked my interest is that in the story in the Bible while Moses was on the Mountain with God, the people who were left behind to wait had lost hope that Moses would come back. They thought that he had surely died, but he hadn't. They grew restless and decided to make their own gods to worship. They didn't do what they were told to do by Moses. When Moses did return he brought the law (the Ten Commandments) with him.
April 29th
Exodus 32- When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, "Come, make us gods [a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don't know what has happened to him." A refence to a man in Egypt. Second time twitter owner refers to Egypt.
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Souza I truley believe that no one can for sure say he doesnt have a twitter. And unless you yourself are Michael Jackson then I beLIEve that there is a twitter ran by MJ to leave subtle hints that involve reasearch.
Fine by me, follow fakes.
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Isn't MJjackson1958 the real MJ twitter account?
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Latest Tweet -- "Ebony"
Michael's last interview with Ebony Magazine: http://www.ebonyjet.com/culture/music/i ... x?id=13602 (http://www.ebonyjet.com/culture/music/index.aspx?id=13602).
Audio excerpt of interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk-kx7N-OHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk-kx7N-OHk).
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1977!
I am a Y, yipiiieeeeee :? :lol:
no, you're an X...sorry
:cry:
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@tabloidburn, voiceforthesilent, loma:
In reading the summary for the Elvis movie, it seems the "downfall" of the movie was an "impersonator" narrating the story. How cool would it be if MJ narrated his own story up to and including his "death". MJ, you have got some explaining to do! LOL
I totally agree :)
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@tabloidburn, voiceforthesilent, loma:
In reading the summary for the Elvis movie, it seems the "downfall" of the movie was an "impersonator" narrating the story. How cool would it be if MJ narrated his own story up to and including his "death". MJ, you have got some explaining to do! LOL
that's what i meant...how could you possibly top 'this is it' when all you have is what wasn't used for the first movie. considering here, that the best scenes were already used and you don't wanna repeat yourself and have all those mad and angry fans to deal with, right?
:mrgreen:
Hmmmmm, I constantly wonder what about the remaining footage that did not go into TII. TII was I think about 111 minutes long. I am curious the remaining 100-200 hours footage that the fans never saw. I think that you are suggesting that there could be a second TII movie using the remaining to make a second movie. That is such a brillant idea. Hmmmm, I am going back into my padded cell to think about a second movie. I wonder what the remaining footage would show the fans. God bless you for your insight. xxxx
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new tweet.
Guess who,s birthday it is today?
34 minutes ago via web
ANSWER: PRINCE 7th June, 1958.
:P
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@tabloidburn, voiceforthesilent, loma:
In reading the summary for the Elvis movie, it seems the "downfall" of the movie was an "impersonator" narrating the story. How cool would it be if MJ narrated his own story up to and including his "death". MJ, you have got some explaining to do! LOL
that's what i meant...how could you possibly top 'this is it' when all you have is what wasn't used for the first movie. considering here, that the best scenes were already used and you don't wanna repeat yourself and have all those mad and angry fans to deal with, right?
:mrgreen:
Hmmmmm, I constantly wonder what about the remaining footage that did not go into TII. TII was I think about 111 minutes long. I am curious the remaining 100-200 hours footage that the fans never saw. I think that you are suggesting that there could be a second TII movie using the remaining to make a second movie. That is such a brillant idea. Hmmmm, I am going back into my padded cell to think about a second movie. I wonder what the remaining footage would show the fans. God bless you for your insight. xxxx
I MUST SAY THAT I THOUGHT MORE ABOUT A CONCERT... TII WAS A GLIMPSE OF ALL THE GREAT SHOW, WAS THE TRAILER, THE ANNOUNCEMENT... I WANT TO SEE THAT CONCERT!!! :mrgreen:
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I MUST SAY THAT I THOUGHT MORE ABOUT A CONCERT... TII WAS A GLIMPSE OF ALL THE GREAT SHOW, WAS THE TRAILER, THE ANNOUNCEMENT... I WANT TO SEE THAT CONCERT!!! :mrgreen:
One year is plenty filming time..
8-)
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new tweet.
Guess who,s birthday it is today?
34 minutes ago via web
ANSWER: PRINCE 7th June, 1958.
:P
and mine :D :D :D
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Newest tweet:
'Ezekiel 33:11'
11 Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?'
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latest:
Connect the tweets
36 minutes ago via web
hmmmm??? :?: :?:
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Don't bite my head off but how can we be sure that this person isn't just a hoaxie like us who is leading us on to believe these things?
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Don't bite my head off but how can we be sure that this person isn't just a hoaxie like us who is leading us on to believe these things?
You wouldn't be the first or the last to speculate that. ;)
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Haha, thanks.
So what makes us believe in this person's tweets? Why we are so fixed on them when we're not sure who it is? LOL
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That is true Delphi will not be the first or last .. this is internet here faces no see .. if we are not. :?
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latest:
Connect the tweets
36 minutes ago via web
hmmmm??? :?: :?:
i kinda tried that, thing is you don't have any clue as to which info regarding the tweets is to be connected here. we found so many different things to each tweet. if you just read the tweets again and collect the info you got from that, you're just as smart as you were before...and connecting any single letters or words in there doesn't make much sense either...i have no clue what to 'connect' here and no real nerve to write all of that down and mess with it. i gotta get outta this padded cell, find a job and get my life back in order... :roll:
*back in my padded cell*
:mrgreen:
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I only take the first result of google for each twitt...But I still don't know ! I mean, there are as many thing for MJ and for Prince. What can we think about all this ? Do you think Michael and Prince got married in secret :lol:
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:lol:
Oh my this is just getting better by the minute and has the makings of a really BAD slash fiction.
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What a nice song:
[youtube:14qhopgn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5LmNFVEEA[/youtube:14qhopgn]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5LmNFVEEA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5LmNFVEEA)
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I try to "connect the dots" but for he moment it looks more like a Picasso :lol:
Please help !
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Connect all the tweets ,.... and if I go crazy? :lol: :lol:
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Connect all the tweets ,.... and if I go crazy? :lol: :lol:
Don't worry, we still have a few free padded cell ;)
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re Ebony: http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/ (http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/). July 2010 issue.
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re Ebony: http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/ (http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/). July 2010 issue.
Prince again?
(http://serve.mysmiley.net/confused/confused0077.gif)
I'm super curious as to what part he plays in this hoax now..
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It s gonna B hot summer
about 2 hours ago via web
http://beatsandrants.blogs.com/hiphop/2 ... ummer.html (http://beatsandrants.blogs.com/hiphop/2010/06/prince-its-gonna-be-a-hot-summer.html)
hmmm, more prince, i'm not sure where this is going?
We've got TIAI taking us to Elvis and Thisisalmostit directing to Prince.
I've just about reached my breaking point :s
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whatyourheartsays wrote;
Don't worry, we still have a few free padded cell
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Here is something new from the Purple One. Unfortunately, it's not the greatest Prince song ever.
It's a low-key funky jam that you can play at your next beach/B-B-Q party.
The truth that criticism does not matter ... :? I like :lol:
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I try to "connect the dots" but for he moment it looks more like a Picasso :lol:
Please help !
It's true, because it's hard to know specifically which exact things to connect when there's so many themes. I'm going to try and have a go at the Bible verses again. Just some slight chance thoughts.
They are Exodus 32; Revelation 18; Thessalonians 5:19-22; Acts 2; Luke 12:2; Ezekiel 33:11. I read them all again and I think the connecting points for them are all about sin or evil, its judgement and turning from that before it's too late; that it will definately happen as planned before Christ comes back. Also everything hidden will be revealed.
These verses might connect to the evils of the illuminati, the coming upheavel of 2012. These are kind of heavy themes sandwiched in between lighter topics such as Elvis' hoax, Prince and MJ's hoax. If they are simply part of entertainment in his hoax "movie" then they give it an apocalypic flavor. Like Eli in the "Book of Eli" he is preserving the Scriptures.
It's interesting he's tying together, poetry, songs, movies, Scriptures, famous people, saying, Michael's own random thoughts, his hoax clues. I daresay it will all make sense in hindsight but right now it's clear as mud. :?
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The newest tweet is very interesting, we discussed it in the forum i believe, but i think there is no agreement on what we really see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIlJHctKgJQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIlJHctKgJQ)
And a longer version if you are interested... ;) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6lIQPoA ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6lIQPoAAhVg&feature=related)
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re Ebony: http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/ (http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/). July 2010 issue.
:o
:shock:
Prince on the cover holding a silver orb in his hand, just like LIGHTMAN in TII : http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/articles/ ... x?id=17094 (http://www.ebonyjet.com/ebony/articles/index.aspx?id=17094)
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The newest tweet is very interesting, we discussed it in the forum i believe, but i think there is no agreement on what we really see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIlJHctKgJQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIlJHctKgJQ)
And a longer version if you are interested... ;) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6lIQPoA ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6lIQPoAAhVg&feature=related)
There is something not right about this video. It is not just Michael that is doubled but the children too. I have been watching the original video which the tweeted version was taken from and in that scene the duplicate Michael and kids just appears and disappears. It seems that someone has manipulated the original Hollywood TV video before uploading it. This is really weird...
At about 1:56 in the original video there is a jerk as if the video has been cut and edited. The doubled images start after that between 1:57 and 2:02. At about 2:03 or so and we have the same sort of flicker in the video again.
It appears someone is trying to make us believe that there are two Michaels shopping that day, when in fact it is actually manipulated video.
This now makes me question whether we should be putting so much faith into this twitter account.
[youtube:h03qh185]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15uh4[/youtube:h03qh185]
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Yeah, it's really odd...When i saw it first months ago, i was convinced that there are two MJ's, cause their moving is not at the same time. But after watching it more and more times, it seems just the mirror tricks you or maybe you are right Serenitys_Dream, somebody manipulated the vid.......
But i think we got used to especially since june that things don't seem as they are in reality ;)
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" He controls what we see, when we see it, and how we see it." "There's a man, who plays the game of life so well." IMO he's been playing a long time.
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" He controls what we see, when we see it, and how we see it." "There's a man, who plays the game of life so well." IMO he's been playing a long time.
well I have sent a message to Hollywood TV on youtube regarding this. I doubt I will receive a response but you never know :lol:
hollywoodtv
Michael Jackson and His Masked Children Shop at Ed Hardy video
Something is not right with the video entitled "Michael Jackson and His Masked Children Shop at Ed Hardy" that was uploaded to your channel on April 27, 2009. Could someone at Hollywood TV please explain to me why at about 1:56 in this video there is a jerk as if the video has been cut and edited. Then Michael and his children are doubled?
These duplicated images start after that between 1:57 and 2:02. At about 2:03 or so and we have the same sort of flicker in the video again. It seems someone is trying to make it appear as if there are two Michaels shopping that day, when in fact it is actually manipulated video.
Why has this video manipulated before it was uploaded and who did this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15uh4&feature=related)
I patiently await a response as this seems very unusual...
Thank you
Serenity
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Anyway, when i see how they go out from this shop...I'm really convinced it would be a good idea to have a double :roll:
I mean, how is it possible that people don't let them just be able to go out as a family, doing shopping...It would so better for everyone that people just control themselves. I don't know, wave your hand, smile...you don't need to stick to Michael like bee's on Winny the Poo's honey...preventing him from simple pleasure to be outwith his kids :| They can only run from car to shop and from shop to car ! Not even 1 second to look around, enjoy the weather, look at people...
Pfff...I don't understand. It's not loving Michael to give him no space to breath...
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latest tweet:
summer solstice
these are dates. in the northern hemisphere (summer in the north, winter in the south) that would be june 21 for this year. in the southern hemisphere (winter in the north, summer in the south), it's december 21, 2010.
guess we gotta look out for those two dates. although i tweeted back: 'northern or southern hemisphere?' ;)
*back to cell*
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Connect all the tweets ,.... and if I go crazy? :lol: :lol:
Don't worry, we still have a few free padded cell ;)
it IS getting kinda full but we also have real cool straightjackets! 'bad' style!
:mrgreen:
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Connect all the tweets ,.... and if I go crazy? :lol: :lol:
Don't worry, we still have a few free padded cell ;)
it IS getting kinda full but we also have real cool straightjackets! 'bad' style!
:mrgreen:
I think I'll get one :geek:
I'm still on june 22 ! Something has to happen that day. Just the day after soltice, and the first day for summer, and just because I'd like something just HAPPEN
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summer solstice is the day where the sun shine the longest...so we, little sunflowers, should be happy on that day :D
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SUMMER and winter solstice: There are two times of the year in which the angular distance from the Sun to the celestial equator of the Earth is maximum. They are the so-called solstices. The summer is great time solar course and - from this point - began to decline. Of christianize this party, the peoples of Europe lit bonfires in their fields to help the Sun in a symbolic act in order that "not lose forces". Its internal conscience knew fire destroys the bad and the malicious. Later, the man was destroying spells with fire.
This Festival has been associated with the summer solstice, but this only applies for half of the world or, rather, people living on the Equator (in northern hemisphere) since the southern Solstice is in winter and not even for all them because the feast of St. John is the Christian world heritage. Although not believe that these festivals are not held in the Eastern countries, with different beliefs and rituals, while preserving the essence in all: a tribute to the Sun, that day has a special role: in the northern hemisphere is the longest day, therefore, the power of darkness has his short reign and in the southern hemisphere occurs quite the opposite. In any case the Sun is helps you not decrezca to keep his force :mrgreen:
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Tabloidburn, I believe That I am going to Need one :mrgreen:
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Tabloidburn, I believe That I am going to Need one :mrgreen:
you know I'm mad ! I'm mad ! You know it ! you know !
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Anyway, when i see how they go out from this shop...I'm really convinced it would be a good idea to have a double :roll:
I mean, how is it possible that people don't let them just be able to go out as a family, doing shopping...It would so better for everyone that people just control themselves. I don't know, wave your hand, smile...you don't need to stick to Michael like bee's on Winny the Poo's honey...preventing him from simple pleasure to be outwith his kids :| They can only run from car to shop and from shop to car ! Not even 1 second to look around, enjoy the weather, look at people...
Pfff...I don't understand. It's not loving Michael to give him no space to breath...
Okay I have taken 30+ screen shots and if that is a real double of Michael, I will eat my shoe cause the kids are doubled and so are the other shoppers. Here are a couple of the screen shots.
Two Michaels & Two Princes
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpcQKBNNPM.jpg)
Woman doubled
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpSVEkCtPM.jpg)
Screen shot of 2:03 where the video jumps/flickers
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpd6q6CEPM.jpg)
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Summer Soliste... -this reminds me of the Lightman scene with the luminous planet on orbit.
And Prince gracing the Ebony Cover with the same orb... that´s not mere coincidence.
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The Ed Hardy Shopping Adventure is a mirror illusion. In fact there is only one MJ (roe eye) shopping with the kids. The mirror is from floor to ceiling and is pointing into the corner behind the white door (left in the pictures).
It is a mirror at an around 45° degree angle - that's why we are confused.
The letters of LOS ANGELES (that do appear above the door in the mirror but not above the real door) are printed on the mirror. If you look very closely, you will notice the mirror jointings from top to bottom in the area at right.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4686867385_2baee70fb5.jpg)
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I have been thinking about this and it is possible that if Michael has done this hoax, adventure or whatever you want to call it, to expose the illuminati, NWO, corruption in the music industry, mind control or a combination of things, then it is also possible that there are people working against his goals. Couldn't this twitter and other things be a way of controlling the information. Mixing truth with falsities, creating confusion and misdirection. I mean if there is a conspiracy against Michael then those involved would also be aware of his plans and goals too so they could use that information to mislead us etc.
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The Ed Hardy Shopping Adventure is a mirror illusion. In fact there is only one MJ (roe eye) shopping with the kids. The mirror is from floor to ceiling and is pointing into the corner behind the white door (left in the pictures).
It is a mirror at an around 45° degree angle - that's why we are confused.
The letters of LOS ANGELES (that do appear above the door in the mirror but not above the real door) are printed on the mirror. If you look very closely, you will notice the mirror jointings from top to bottom in the area at right.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4686867385_2baee70fb5.jpg)
Thank you once again Grace, fabulous!
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@grace:
that's exactly what i thought, that it wasn't a straight mirror (meaning one right opposite and straight on the wall) but one creating a triangle and that's why the movements look like two different ppl, cuz the angle is unusual. i also see two princes and some other ppl doubled.
i also tweeted that back, that it's a mirror and not 2 mikes. plus i don't think that ugly jacket exists twice (sry mike, but that thing is just...NOOO!). hopefully arnie has it back by now, so we won't see that one again.
seeing it like you drew it up is really cool! thx for that!
:mrgreen:
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Regarding the Ed Hardy Store Video....one thing that stuck out to me was this....as the kids get out of the car to go in and are holding their masks onto their faces....wow...look how similar Prince's hand is to Michael's!
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Latest tweet:
"You lose nothing from believing"
Maybe it refers to that we keep questioning this twitter account?....
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Every Pied Piper needs to be watched.
There is not one that has not brought bad times.
Those who are calling: "follow me, follow me" are the worst.
Only those who are not fishing for compliments and followers are those to be considered to listen to.
Only those.
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@Grace
Nice post number. :lol:
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What believe? Believe is like love, is the all that counts. ;)
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look what I got when I googled the last tweet :
"There are little invisible elves who constantly build and maintain our universe from the stars to the crickets and they control everything that occurs. So, if you wake up at 4 a.m. every Tuesday and worship the elves, they will make things go your way; if not, you are assured less than good luck. You lose nothing from believing this except a good night's sleep on Tuesdays. However, if they are real, and you don't worship, your life is guaranteed to be worse off. Now I ask you, are you going to worship elves every Tuesday morning?" -- Thomas Anderson
what do you think it might mean ?
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look what I got when I googled the last tweet :
"There are little invisible elves who constantly build and maintain our universe from the stars to the crickets and they control everything that occurs. So, if you wake up at 4 a.m. every Tuesday and worship the elves, they will make things go your way; if not, you are assured less than good luck. You lose nothing from believing this except a good night's sleep on Tuesdays. However, if they are real, and you don't worship, your life is guaranteed to be worse off. Now I ask you, are you going to worship elves every Tuesday morning?" -- Thomas Anderson
what do you think it might mean ?
A moment of your time in exchange for good fortune...?
It kind of reminds me of whether or not people believe that taking the time to drop a coin into a fountain or well will bring them good fortune or their wishes granted. It's the same principle. Hmmm. Good find.
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Every Pied Piper needs to be watched.
There is not one that has not brought bad times.
Those who are calling: "follow me, follow me" are the worst.
Only those who are not fishing for compliments and followers are those to be considered to listen to.
Only those.
That´s a universal truth. A little bit of healthy skepticism is principally not a bad thing at all.
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this was my answer re: belief:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager)
it basically says that you are free to believe what you want. it's your choice and wager says that it makes life easier when you actually have something to believe in. this may also indicate that you are free to believe who 'thisisalmostit' is. i don't know how others tweet back but there may be a few asking questions by now as of who this tweeter may be.
apart from that, i go with grace here. don't fall for anything, keep an open eye and a sharp mind.
:mrgreen:
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You lose nothing from believing
To me it doesn't sound like "kind words" it could mean : you can believe it if you want, knowing that if it's not true, you won't lose a lot. Just mean "ok I believe, just in case something happens"
I disagree with this...I mean, even though I can accept that some people believe he is dead, and send them love to cope with it, I believe he is alive, and if you don't believe it from the bottom of your heart, it's no use believing.
I mean, believing like "if I'm wrong, I lose nothing" is useless to me. It just means you're not really convinced, but you want to play on both sides.
I choosed to believe Michael is alive. I did this choice, and i engaged myself in it. I stop crying for his death, and I believe he is somewhere alive. If I'm wrong, I won't lose "nothing"...I would lose Michael.
We don't lose nothing from believing. We take a risk, engaging our hearts.
i disagree with that, but I cannot tell in 140 on twitter, so I put it here !
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You lose nothing from believing
To me it doesn't sound like "kind words" it could mean : you can believe it if you want, knowing that if it's not true, you won't lose a lot. Just mean "ok I believe, just in case something happens"
I disagree with this...I mean, even though I can accept that some people believe he is dead, and send them love to cope with it, I believe he is alive, and if you don't believe it from the bottom of your heart, it's no use believing.
I mean, believing like "if I'm wrong, I lose nothing" is useless to me. It just means you're not really convinced, but you want to play on both sides.
I choosed to believe Michael is alive. I did this choice, and i engaged myself in it. I stop crying for his death, and I believe he is somewhere alive. If I'm wrong, I won't lose "nothing"...I would lose Michael.
We don't lose nothing from believing. We take a risk, engaging our hearts.
i disagree with that, but I cannot tell in 140 on twitter, so I put it here !
i think it is rather meant for the current situation. however the outcome, right now it's your belief keeping you up. wager makes the parallel to believing in god. although there is no physical evidence that god exists, the choice to believe in god will make your life easier cuz we all have that in us, that we want to believe that there is something like fate, a higher energy, god, whatever...and you turn to your belief for strength and uplifting.
taking mike's example: if you think he's dead, that's your belief right now. if you think he's alive, then that's your belief. as of now, there is no 'living proof' for either one. once the hoax comes down, you'll know and then you don't need the belief anymore, cuz you have a proof.
i'm always amazed how complex a one-liner can be...
:mrgreen:
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look what I got when I googled the last tweet :
"There are little invisible elves who constantly build and maintain our universe from the stars to the crickets and they control everything that occurs. So, if you wake up at 4 a.m. every Tuesday and worship the elves, they will make things go your way; if not, you are assured less than good luck. You lose nothing from believing this except a good night's sleep on Tuesdays. However, if they are real, and you don't worship, your life is guaranteed to be worse off. Now I ask you, are you going to worship elves every Tuesday morning?" -- Thomas Anderson
what do you think it might mean ?
That´s crazy.
We all know that one should do it on Wednesdays :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
*taking a dog cookie to reward myself*
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"Everyone back to their free padded " :lol: :lol:
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:lol: yeeep, I go back now. I´ll get out next Tuesday at 4, c ya :lol:
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I believe Michael is one of the little elves controlling everything that goes on with this hoax. He is in the underthreads of today's reality tapestry. I loved this tweet because I was just thinking to myself how I should get on with my life, and stop beating a dead horse (it's been so quiet). I'll continue believing, having "patience" and looking for "Treasure" because he's "STILL ALIVE" :D
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The green elve was the green man in we are the world remake...
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this was my answer re: belief:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager)
it basically says that you are free to believe what you want. it's your choice and wager says that it makes life easier when you actually have something to believe in. this may also indicate that you are free to believe who 'thisisalmostit' is. i don't know how others tweet back but there may be a few asking questions by now as of who this tweeter may be.
apart from that, i go with grace here. don't fall for anything, keep an open eye and a sharp mind.
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@tabloidburn and everyone else: you can see what other ppl are tweeting by putting "@..." in the "Search" column on the right, blue column of your twitter home page, underneath where it says "Retweets". I just discovered this function! So for Almost, you would type in @thisisalmostit and then hit the spy glass thingy.
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latest tweet
Last time I checked, you were sleeping
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more Prince lyrics.....
From a song called, "dreamer" This is getting boring.... :cry:
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more Prince lyrics.....
From a song called, "dreamer" This is getting boring.... :cry:
Amen. :?
What's up with this person?
Huge Prince/MJ fan or what?
:roll:
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latest tweet
Last time I checked, you were sleeping
This fairly recent Prince interview is interesting and he speaks about why he was compelled him to write Dreamer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGUqXRXPts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGUqXRXPts)
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here is the latest tweet
Standard Oil New York
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Standard Oil New York=
SONY.
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That's what I think too.
Connect the Dots:
Standard
Oil
New
York
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not sony, rockefeller!
the building of standard oil was in new york.
http://www.reformation.org/rockefeller.html (http://www.reformation.org/rockefeller.html)
by all means, check out the links!!!
like this one, entitled 'murder by injection' :? :shock:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/emullins.htm (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/emullins.htm)
those are long reads, but well worth it.
remember this hoax is also about exposing the new world order, right? and who's still a leading member of the bilderberg group that recently had a meeting? rockefeller. and as truthseeker just mentioned to me on twitter, there will always be a rockefeller running things. that sh!t is more than scary!
*back to cell, i'mma need my 'bad'n'straightjacket tonite*
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Whoa. Thanks, Tabby! I'm going to need a cup of tea for these articles. :lol: It's all starting to connect, either way; Sony? Rockefeller? At the same time? Hmh...
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for anyone who still needs a stylish straightjacket, scroll down and place your orders...
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9246&start=500 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9246&start=500)
:mrgreen:
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for anyone who still needs a stylish straightjacket, scroll down and place your orders...
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9246&start=500
Thanks, I might just have to take you up on that offer :D
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No! I refuse to become crazy! :shock: You can't make me! No! Noooo! :lol:
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wow - great job everyone! I haven't added anything because you've all done more than I could come up with. Thanks for keeping some of us informed...
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Snopes.com debunks the SONY = Standard Oil New York myth: http://www.snopes.com/business/names/sony.asp (http://www.snopes.com/business/names/sony.asp)
I have to read the articles posted. Thanks everyone who found them. The Rockefeller thing is very interesting.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission)
Founded by initiative of David Rockefeller (Standard Oil). Dedicated to one world government. A present chairman is from SONY. An Executive member is from Pepsi. :shock:
Sorry about the shorthand, but I have to fly out the door!
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tabloidburn, sell your shirts?, I send you my size by PM, I think it will be very expensive I am a thin person. :lol:
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Since the second world war both in America and Japan have been low
Rockefeller control. After all, even SONY means nothing more
than the first Standard Oil Company of New York!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission)
The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation among the United States, Europe and Japan. It was founded in July 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time. The Trilateral Commission is widely seen as a counterpart to the Council on Foreign Relations.[1]
Established
Speaking at the Chase Manhattan International Financial Forums in London, Brussels, Montreal, and Paris, Rockefeller proposed the creation of an International Commission of Peace and Prosperity in early 1972 (which would later become the Trilateral Commission). At the 1972 Bilderberg meeting, the idea was widely accepted, but elsewhere, it got a cool reception. According to Rockefeller, the organization could "be of help to government by providing measured judgment."
Zbigniew Brzezinski,[2] a professor at Columbia University and a Rockefeller advisor who was a specialist on international affairs, left his post to organize the group along with:
Henry D. Owen (a Foreign Policy Studies Director with the Brookings Institution)
George S. Franklin
Robert R. Bowie (of the Foreign Policy Association and Director of the Harvard Center for International Affairs)
Gerard C. Smith (Salt I negotiator, Rockefeller in-law, and its first North American Chairman)
Marshall Hornblower (former partner at Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering)
William Scranton (former Governor of Pennsylvania)
Edwin Reischauer (a professor at Harvard)
Max Kohnstamm (European Policy Centre)
Other founding members included Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker, both eventually heads of the Federal Reserve system.
Funding for the group came from David Rockefeller, the Charles F. Kettering Foundation, and the Ford Foundation.
[edit]Activity history
In July 1972, Rockefeller called his first meeting, which was held at Rockefeller's Pocantico compound in New York's Hudson Valley. It was attended by about 250 individuals who were carefully selected and screened by Rockefeller and represented the very elite of finance and industry.
Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. The Trilateral Commission was officially initiated, holding biannual meetings.
A Trilateral Commission Task Force Report, presented at the 1975 meeting in Kyoto, Japan, called An Outline for Remaking World Trade and Finance, said: "Close Trilateral cooperation in keeping the peace, in managing the world economy, and in fostering economic development and in alleviating world poverty, will improve the chances of a smooth and peaceful evolution of the global system." Another Commission document read:
"The overriding goal is to make the world safe for interdependence by protecting the benefits which it provides for each country against external and internal threats which will constantly emerge from those willing to pay a price for more national autonomy. This may sometimes require slowing the pace at which interdependence proceeds, and checking some aspects of it. More frequently however, it will call for checking the intrusion of national government into the international exchange of both economic and non-economic goods."
Current Chairmen
North America: Joseph S. Nye, Jr., University Distinguished Service Professor and former Dean, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chair, National Intelligence Council and former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs .[8]
Europe: Peter Sutherland, Irish businessman and former politician associated with the Fine Gael party; former Attorney General of Ireland and European Commissioner in the first Delors Commission; former Director General of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, the precursor to the World Trade Organization; Chairman of BP and Goldman Sachs International.[9]
Pacific Asia: Yotaro Kobayashi, Chief Corporate Adviser, Fuji Xerox Company, Ltd.;[10] Board member of Callaway Golf Company, Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT), Sony Corporation, and American Productivity & Quality Center ; life-time trustee of Keizai Doyukai (Japan Association of Corporate Executives) ; Chairman of the Aspen Institute, Japan .[11][12]
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil)
Standard Oil was a predominant American integrated oil producing, transporting, refining, and marketing company. Established in 1870 as a corporation in Ohio, it was the largest oil refiner in the world[3] and operated as a major company trust and was one of the world's first and largest multinational corporations until it was broken up by the United States Supreme Court in 1911. John D. Rockefeller was a founder, chairman and major shareholder, and the company made him the richest man in modern history.
excerpt:
World War II
In 1941, an investigation exposed a "marriage" cartel between United States-based Standard Oil Co. and I.G. Farben.[19][20] (see[21] and[22]) It also brought new evidence concerning complex price and marketing agreements between DuPont, a major investor in and producer of leaded gasoline, U.S. Industrial Alcohol Co. and their subsidiary, Cuba Distilling Co. The investigation was eventually dropped, like dozens of others in many different kinds of industries, due to the need to enlist industry support in the war effort. However, the top directors of many oil companies agreed to resign and oil industry stocks in molasses companies were sold off as part of a compromise worked out. (see[23][24] but see[25])
IG Farben built a factory (named Buna Chemical Plant) for producing synthetic petroleum and rubber (from coal) in Auschwitz, which was the beginning of SS activity and camps in this location during the Holocaust. At its peak in 1944, this factory made use of 83,000 slave laborers.[26] The pesticide Zyklon B, for which IG Farben held the patent, was manufactured by Degesch (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung), which IG Farben owned 42.2 percent of (in shares) and which had IG Farben managers in its Managing Committee. Zyklon B is the primary form of gas used throughout WWII in German death camps.
By 1911, with public outcry at a climax, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that Standard Oil must be dissolved under the Sherman Antitrust Act and split into 34 companies.
The successor companies from Standard Oil's breakup form the core of today's US oil industry. (Several of these companies were considered among the Seven Sisters who dominated the industry worldwide for much of the twentieth century.) They include:
Standard Oil of New Jersey (SONJ) - or Esso (S.O.) – renamed Exxon, now part of ExxonMobil. Standard Trust companies Carter Oil, Imperial Oil (Canada), and Standard of Louisiana were kept as part of Standard Oil of New Jersey after the breakup.
Standard Oil of New York – or Socony, merged with Vacuum – renamed Mobil, now part of ExxonMobil.
Standard Oil of California – or Socal – renamed Chevron, became ChevronTexaco, but returned to Chevron.
Standard Oil of Indiana - or Stanolind, renamed Amoco (American Oil Co.) – now part of BP.
Standard's Atlantic and the independent company Richfield merged to form Atlantic Richfield or ARCO, now part of BP. Atlantic operations were spun off and bought by Sunoco.
Standard Oil of Kentucky – or Kyso was acquired by Standard Oil of California - currently Chevron.
Continental Oil Company – or Conoco now part of ConocoPhillips.
Standard Oil of Ohio – or Sohio, acquired by BP in 1987.
The Ohio Oil Company – or The Ohio, and marketed gasoline under the Marathon name. The company is now known as Marathon Oil Company, and was often a rival with the in-state Standard spinoff, Sohio.
and since we all love us some 7s around here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sist ... _companies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(oil_companies))
excerpt:
The Seven Sisters was a term coined by Italian politician Enrico Mattei to refer to seven Anglo-American oil companies that formed the "Consortium for Iran" and dominated the petroleum industry after World War II.[1] This group included: Standard Oil of New Jersey and Standard Oil Company of New York now ExxonMobil; Standard Oil of California, Gulf Oil and Texaco now Chevron; Royal Dutch Shell; and Anglo-Persian Oil Company now BP. The dominance of the Seven sisters was challenged in the 1950s and 1960s by Mattei's restructuring of the Italian company Ente Nazionale Idrocarburi (ENI), the concessions it earned in the Middle East and it's strategic alliances including those with the Soviet Union.[2]
The "New Seven Sisters"
On 11 March 2007, the Financial Times identified the "New Seven Sisters", the most influential and mainly state-owned national oil and gas companies from countries outside the OECD. They are:
Saudi Aramco (Saudi Arabia)
JSC Gazprom (Russia)
CNPC (China)
NIOC (Iran)
PDVSA (Venezuela)
Petrobras (Brazil)
Petronas (Malaysia)
The FT article notes that Pemex of Mexico is excluded from such a list.[1]
The term Big Oil, or Supermajor, is used to describe nowadays the biggest and richest non-state owned companies: ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, Chevron, Total and ConocoPhillips. Since the 7 sisters are parts of these companies (Esso and Mobil as ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco and Gulf Oil as Chevron, Shell and BP), the term is much more used than the Financial Times "New Seven Sisters".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajor)
This is why a Rockefeller will always be in the Bilderberg group. And at the top of the pyramid at that.
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Enter Sony
The name SONY began to appear at Tokio airport after the flood of post-war II recovery
money, and one of the meanings of those four letters is "STANDARD OIL OF NEW
YORK". That has always been SONY or SOCONY. (The Standard Oil Company of New
York)[/b]
THE ROCKEFELLERS had arrived to re-finance Japan.
Enter Tommy Motola
The two men had a falling out after Jackson began to believe that Al Malnik, who has known Mafia
ties and was once a close associate of Meyer Lansky, was trying to wrangle Jackson's rights to
half the Beatles catalog of songs from him, rights that are worth an estimated half billion dollars.
http://michaeljackson.ae/truth/SONY-thru-the-years.pdf
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony)
Origin of name
When Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo was looking for a romanized name to use to market themselves, they strongly considered using their initials, TTK. The primary reason they did not is that the railway company Tokyo Kyuko was known as TKK.[7] The company occasionally used the acronym "Totsuko" in Japan, but during his visit to the United States, Morita discovered that Americans had trouble pronouncing that name. Another early name that was tried out for a while was "Tokyo Teletech" until Morita discovered that there was an American company already using Teletech as a brand name.[11]
The name "Sony" was chosen for the brand as a mix of two words. One was the Latin word Sonus which is the root of "sonic" and "sound" and the other was "sonny," a familiar term used in 1950s America to call a boy.[4] The first Sony-branded product, the TR-55 transistor radio, appeared in 1955 but the company name didn't change to Sony until January 1958.[12]
At the time of the change, it was extremely unusual for a Japanese company to use Roman letters instead of kanji to spell its name. The move was not without opposition: TTK's principal bank at the time, Mitsui, had strong feelings about the name. They pushed for a name such as Sony Electronic Industries, or Sony Teletech. Akio Morita was firm, however, as he did not want the company name tied to any particular industry. Eventually, both Ibuka and Mitsui Bank's chairman gave their approval.[7]
See also: http://www.snopes.com/business/names/sony.asp (http://www.snopes.com/business/names/sony.asp)
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Can someone pls summarize these 29 pages to me? Do we think this person is an insider or Michael or is s/he another fake?
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Tabloidburn links and others that have been published are very interesting indeed. :geek:
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Can someone pls summarize these 29 pages to me? Do we think this person is an insider or Michael or is s/he another fake?
We are ALMOST sure.......
of nothing yet. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
L.O.V.E. to all.....
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Enter Sony
The name SONY began to appear at Tokio airport after the flood of post-war II recovery
money, and one of the meanings of those four letters is "STANDARD OIL OF NEW
YORK". That has always been SONY or SOCONY. (The Standard Oil Company of New
York)[/b]
THE ROCKEFELLERS had arrived to re-finance Japan.
Enter Tommy Motola
The two men had a falling out after Jackson began to believe that Al Malnik, who has known Mafia
ties and was once a close associate of Meyer Lansky, was trying to wrangle Jackson's rights to
half the Beatles catalog of songs from him, rights that are worth an estimated half billion dollars.
http://michaeljackson.ae/truth/SONY-thru-the-years.pdf
Wow, so that is the Malnik connection with MJ. That is very interesting. I am going back to my padded cell. I think I will start running my own teahouse with refreshments for all us in the padded cell block! :lol:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission
Founded by initiative of David Rockefeller (Standard Oil). Dedicated to one world government.
A present chairman is from SONY. An Executive member is from Pepsi. :shock:
Sorry about the shorthand, but I have to fly out the door!
Thank you for posting, that´s an interesting read.
Still not sure what to think about it...
Sony, Pepsi - both get intensive (in)direct cross-media promotion throughout the whole Hoax.
Is this now a critical reflection on these companys economic ties?
Or - quite the contrary - should we be relieved at the fact that they are on board? :?
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Enter Sony
The name SONY began to appear at Tokio airport after the flood of post-war II recovery
money, and one of the meanings of those four letters is "STANDARD OIL OF NEW
YORK". That has always been SONY or SOCONY. (The Standard Oil Company of New
York)[/b]
THE ROCKEFELLERS had arrived to re-finance Japan.
Enter Tommy Motola
The two men had a falling out after Jackson began to believe that Al Malnik, who has known Mafia
ties and was once a close associate of Meyer Lansky, was trying to wrangle Jackson's rights to
half the Beatles catalog of songs from him, rights that are worth an estimated half billion dollars.
http://michaeljackson.ae/truth/SONY-thru-the-years.pdf
Wow, so that is the Malnik connection with MJ. That is very interesting. I am going back to my padded cell. I think I will start running my own teahouse with refreshments for all us in the padded cell block! :lol:
JFK Assissination
Al Malnik,who has known Mafia ties and was once a close associate of Meyer Lansky[/i][/color],
Israeli conspiracy
This theory alleges that the Israeli government was displeased with Kennedy for his pressure against their pursuit of a top-secret nuclear program at the Negev Nuclear Research Center (commonly called "Dimona") and/or the Israelis were angry over Kennedy's sympathies with Arabs. Gangster Meyer Lansky and Lyndon B. Johnson often play pivotal roles in this conspiracy theory as organizing and preparing the hit, thus bleeding into and possibly catalyzing many of the other conspiracies as well.
In July 2004 Israel's nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu claimed in the London-based Al-Hayat newspaper that the state of Israel was complicit in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Vanunu, a former technician at the Dimona plant who was jailed for 18 years for revealing its inner workings to Britain's Sunday Times in 1986, made the statement after his 2004 release. He claimed there were "near-certain indications" Kennedy was assassinated in response to "pressure he exerted on Israel's then head of government, David Ben-Gurion, to shed light on Dimona's nuclear reactor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_conspiracy_theories
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Mossad - The Israeli Connection To 911
U.S. investigators and the controlled media have ignored a preponderance of evidence pointing to Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, being involved in the terror attacks of 9/11.
From the very morning aircraft smashed into the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon, news reports have indicated Israeli intelligence being involved in the events of 9/11 - and the planting of "false flags" to blame Arab terrorists and mold public opinion to support the pre-planned "war on terror."
Shortly after the destruction of the twin towers, radio news reports described five "Middle Eastern men" being arrested in New Jersey after having been seen videotaping and celebrating the explosive "collapses" of the WTC.
These men, from a phony moving company in Weehawken, N.J., turned out to be agents of Israeli military intelligence, Mossad. Furthermore, their "moving van" tested positive for explosives.
Dominic Suter, the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems, the phony "moving company," fled in haste, or was allowed to escape, to Israel before FBI agents could interrogate him. The Israeli agents were later returned to Israel on minor visa violations.
The Assistant Attorney General in charge of criminal investigations at the time was Michael Chertoff, the current head of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Chertoff, the son of the first hostess of Israel's national air carrier, El Al, is thought to be an Israeli national.
One of the Israeli agents later told Israeli radio that they had been sent to "document the event" - the event which took the lives of some 3,000 Americans.
Despite the fact that the Israelis arrested in New Jersey evidently had prior knowledge or were involved in the planning of 9/11, the U.S. mainstream media has never even broached the question of Israeli complicity in the attacks.
ISRAELIS FOREWARNED
On September 12, 2001, the Internet edition of The Jerusalem Post reported, "The Israeli foreign ministry has collected the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack."
Yet only one Israeli was killed at the WTC and two were reportedly killed on the "hijacked" aircraft.
Although a total of three Israeli lives were reportedly lost on 9/11, speechwriters for President George W. Bush grossly inflated the number of Israeli dead to 130 in the president's address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001.
The fact that only one Israeli died at the WTC, while 4,000 Israelis were thought to have been at the scene of the attacks on 9/11 naturally led to a widespread rumor, blamed on Arabic sources, that Israelis had been forewarned to stay away that day.
"Whether this story was the origin of the rumor," Bret Stephens, the Post's editor-in-chief wrote in 2003, "I cannot say. What I can say is that there was no mistake in our reporting."
ODIGO INSTANT MESSAGES
Evidence that Israelis had been forewarned several hours before the attacks surfaced at an Israeli instant messaging service, known as Odigo. This story, clear evidence of Israeli prior knowledge, was reported only briefly in the U.S. media - and quickly forgotten.
At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands of lives.
Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli nationality.
Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president, reportedly said, "It was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message."
The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the matter. There have been no media reports since.
Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad's headquarters are located.
Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology, another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider trading."
Through Israeli "venture capital" (VC) investment funds, Mossad spawns and sponsors scores of software companies currently doing business in the United States. These Israel-based companies are sponsored by Mossad funding sources such as Cedar Fund, Stage One Ventures, Veritas Venture Partners, and others.
As one might expect, the portfolios of these Mossad-linked funding companies contain only Israeli-based companies, such as Odigo.
Reading through the strikingly similar websites of these Israeli "VC" funds and their portfolio companies, one can't help but notice that the key "team" players share a common profile and are often former members of "Israel's Intelligence Corps" and veterans of the R&D Department of the Israel Air Force or another branch of the military. Most are graduates of Israel's "Technion" school in Haifa, Mossad's Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) in Herzliya, or a military program for software development.
The IDC, a private, non-profit university, is closely tied to the Mossad. The IDC has a "research institute" headed by Shabtai Shavit, former head of the Mossad from 1989 to 1996, called the International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism.
The IDC also has a "Marc Rich Center for the Study of Commodities, Trading and Financial Markets" and a "Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy." The cosmetics magnate Ronald S. Lauder, who is a supporter of Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his far-right Likud Party, founded the Lauder school.
Lauder, president of the Jewish National Fund and former chairman of New York Governor George Pataki's Commission on Privatization, is the key individual who pushed the privatization of the WTC and former Stewart AFB, where the flight paths of the two planes that hit the twin towers oddly converged. Ronald Lauder played a significant, albeit unreported, role in the preparation for 9/11.
Pataki's wife, Libby, has been on Lauder's payroll since at least 2002 and reportedly earned $100,000 as a consultant in 2004. According to The Village Voice, between 1994 and 1998, Gov. Pataki earned some $70,000 for speaking to groups affiliated with Lauder.
THE PTECH CUTOUT
Ptech, a mysterious software company has been tied with the events of 9/11. The Quincy, Massachusetts-based company was supposedly connected to "the Muslim Brotherhood" and Arab financiers of terrorism.
The firm's suspected links with terrorism resulted in a consensual examination by the FBI in December 2002, which was immediately leaked to the media. The media reports of the FBI "raid" on Ptech soon led to the demise of the company.
Ptech "produced software that derived from PROMIS, had an artificial intelligence core, and was installed on virtually every computer system of the U.S. government and its military agencies on September 11, 2001," according to Michael Ruppert's From the Wilderness (FTW) website.
"This included the White House, Treasury Dept. (Secret Service), Air Force, FAA, CIA, FBI, both houses of Congress, Navy, Dept. of Energy, IRS, Booz Allen Hamilton, IBM, Enron and more," FTW reported.
"Whoever plotted 9/11 definitely viewed the FAA as the enemy that morning. Overriding FAA systems would be the most effective way to ensure the attacks were successful," FTW reported. "To do this, the FAA needed an evolution of PROMIS software installed on their systems and Ptech was just that; the White House and Secret Service had the same software on their systems - likely a superior modified version capable of 'surveillance and intervention' systems."
But did the U.S. government unwittingly load software capable of "surveillance and intervention" operations and produced by a company linked to terrorism onto its most sensitive computer networks, or was Ptech simply a Mossad "cutout" company?
Oussama Ziade, a Lebanese Muslim immigrant who came to the U.S. in 1985, founded Ptech in 1994. But the company's original manager of marketing and information systems was Michael S. Goff, whose PR firm, Goff Communications, currently represents Guardium, a Mossad-linked software company.
And Goff comes from a well-to-do line of Jewish Masons who have belonged to Worcester's Commonwealth Lodge 600 of B'nai Brith for decades. So, why would a recently graduated Juris Doctor in Law leave a promising law career to join forces with a Lebanese Muslim's upstart company sponsored with dodgy funders in Saudi Arabia?
"As information systems manager [for Ptech], Michael handled design, deployment and management of its Windows and Macintosh, data, and voice networks," Goff's website says. "Michael also performed employee training and handled all procurement for software, systems and peripherals."
AFP asked Goff, who left the Worcester law firm of Seder & Chandler in 1994, how he wound up working at Ptech. "Through a temp agency," Goff said. Asked for the name of the agency, Goff said he could not remember.
Could it be Mossad Temps, or maybe Sayan Placement Agency?
Goff, the original marketing manager for Ptech software, said he did not know who had written the code that Ptech sold to many government agencies. Is this believable?
Goff leaves a legal practice in his home town to take a job, through a temp agency, with a Lebanese Muslim immigrant who is selling software, and he doesn't know who even wrote the code?
AFP contacted the government agencies that reportedly have Ptech software on their computers, and IBM, to ask if they could identify who had written the source code of the Ptech software.
By press time, only Lt. Commander Ron Steiner of the U.S. Navy's Naval Network Warfare Command had responded. Steiner said he had checked with an analyst and been told that none of the Ptech software has been approved for the Navy's enterprise networks.
http://www.rense.com/general64/moss.htm
Mossad Agents Got Caught in NYC Before and During 911 Attacks
[youtube:bff41q9r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_fTJqeuCTc[/youtube:bff41q9r]
[youtube:bff41q9r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS89vNH-eeY&feature=related[/youtube:bff41q9r]
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Rahm Israel Emanuel is an American politician currently serving as White House Chief of Staff to President Barack Obama. He served previously as senior advisor to President Clinton at the White House from 1993 to 1998 and as a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Illinois's 5th congressional district, from 2003 until his resignation in 2009 to take up his current position in tin the Obama Administration. Emanuel has dual citizenship with Israel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel
Irgun was a terrorist Zionist group that operated in the British mandate of Palestine between 1931 and 1948.
Some of the better-known attacks by the Irgun were the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre on 9 April 1948.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
List of Irgun attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Rahm Emanuel's father: An Israeli terrorist?
The appointment of Rahm Emanuel triggered widespread interest in Israel, the native country of his former Jewish underground fighter father.
The older Emanuel, a paediatrician born in Jerusalem, was a member of Irgun, the hard-line militant group which fought for Jewish independence until 1948.
It was described as "terrorist" at the time by Britain. Mr Emanuel's appointment could reassure Israel that Mr Obama will continue America's close alliance.
The Ynet news service quoted Michael Kotzin, a leader of the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago, as saying Mr Emanuel is a frequent attender at Israel-related events.
He co-sponsored a Bill defending Israel against a world court advisory opinion in 2004 criticising the route of the military's separation barrier for cutting deep into the West Bank, and co-sponsored another Bill congratulating Israelis and Palestinians who work together for peace.
He is credited with choreographing the famous handshake between Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin on the White House lawn in 1993.
The Irgun was a terrorist organization along with the Jewish Stern Gang. They were responsible for bombings and murders within Britsh Mandated Palestine. Menachem Begin and Yitshak Shamir
were both menbers of the Irgun. Both Begin and Shamir became the sixth and seventh prime ministers of Israel. These were of course Zionists, who paved the way for Israel to become a state.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/us-election/rahm-emanuels-father-an-israeli-terrorist-14043727.html
Ari Emanuel - Rahm Emanuel's Brother
Ariel "Ari" Zev Emanuel is an American talent agent, founder of the Endeavor Talent Agency in Beverly Hills, California, and now CEO of William Morris Endeavor Entertainment, Endeavor's successor by merger. As of December 4, 2009, he was purportedly representing Martin Scorsese, Larry David, Michael Moore, Matt Damon, Sacha Baron Cohen, Conan O'Brien and Mark Wahlberg, among others.
An April 2002 lawsuit by agent Sandra Epstein against Endeavor Agency brought accusations by Epstein and other Endeavor employees against Emanuel. In the court filings, Emanuel is alleged to have allowed a friend to operate a pornographic website out of Endeavor’s offices. According to Epstein, Emanuel made racist and anti-gay remarks and prevented her from sending a script about Navy SEALs to actor Wesley Snipes, saying, "That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Everyone knows that blacks don’t swim". Emanuel disputed these accusations at the time. Epstein’s claims were settled for $2.25 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Emanuel
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I am positive Michael didn't mean the Jewish man on the street cause Judaism and Zionism aren't the same thing.
[youtube:3sg5g9cs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-v0_bkKNA4[/youtube:3sg5g9cs]
Jews United Against Zionism, United Nations, January 4, 2009
[youtube:3sg5g9cs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haybEo-Tx4[/youtube:3sg5g9cs]
Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.
We provide articles on current Zionist activities with the response of True Torah Jews, as well as articles on the latest anti-Zionist activities.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
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Too bad, I can´t read his/her tweets any more.. :|
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
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Too bad, I can´t read his/her tweets any more.. :|
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
latest tweet,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xb9TSIITY&feature=channel
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Sade Soldier Of Love lyrics
I've lost the use of my heart
But I'm still alive
Still looking for the life
The endless pool on the other side
It's a wild wild west
I'm doing my best
I'm at the borderline of my faith,
I'm at the hinterland of my devotion
In the frontline of this battle of mine
But I'm still alive
I'm a soldier of love.
Every day and night
I'm soldier of love
All the days of my life
I've been torn up inside (oh!)
I've been left behind (oh!)
So I ride
I have the will to survive
In the wild wild west,
Trying my hardest
Doing my best
To stay alive
I am love's soldier!
I wait for the sound
(oooh oohhh)
I know that love will come (that love will come)
Turn it all around
I'm a soldier of love (soldier of love)
Every day and night
I'm a soldier of love
All the days of my life
I am lost
But I don't doubt (oh!)
So I ride
I have the will to survive
In the wild wild west,
Trying my hardest
Doing my best
To stay alive
I am love's soldier!
I wait for the sound
I know that love will come
I know that love will come
Turn it all around
I'm a soldier of love
I'm a soldier
Still waiting for love to come
Turn it all around
(4x)
I'm a soldier of love
I'm a soldier
Still waiting for love to come
Turn it all around
(3x)
Still waiting for love to come
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Too bad, I can´t read his/her tweets any more.. :|
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
latest tweet,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xb9TSIITY&feature=channel
I can't see the video. It says that Sony blocked the contents. This isn't the clue is it?
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Too bad, I can´t read his/her tweets any more.. :|
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
latest tweet,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xb9TSIITY&feature=channel
I can't see the video. It says that Sony blocked the contents. This isn't the clue is it?
Same problem here
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Too bad, I can´t read his/her tweets any more.. :|
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
latest tweet,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xb9TSIITY&feature=channel
I can't see the video. It says that Sony blocked the contents. This isn't the clue is it?
Same problem here
strange im from holland i can see it.
But its the song video of the song soldiers of love from sade. i posted the lirics a little higher then this post
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The video can not be seen :?
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The video can not be seen :?
can you maybe see it here
http://www.sade.com/gb/home/
look for the song: soldier of love
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Thanks me2 ;)
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I can see it here in France
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Me neither can watch it - from Hungary
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My question is....
All this clues we see...
do you think Michael is behind each of them, telling cocacola to make ad with sunflowers, telling Sade to have such dancers...
I really doubt...because it would mean they all know about the hoax, OR that they're all being manipulated.
I don't know what to think anymore about seeing so much "clues" I think they are just "tribute stuff" and we're mixing up things.
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My question is....
All this clues we see...
do you think Michael is behind each of them, telling cocacola to make ad with sunflowers, telling Sade to have such dancers...
I really doubt...because it would mean they all know about the hoax, OR that they're all being manipulated.
I don't know what to think anymore about seeing so much "clues" I think they are just "tribute stuff" and we're mixing up things.
This is my thought too. But maybe the few who are invited to the hoax have any contact with cocacola, sade and so on. And they manipulate their acts in a positive way. i don't know... :?
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My question is....
All this clues we see...
do you think Michael is behind each of them, telling cocacola to make ad with sunflowers, telling Sade to have such dancers...
I really doubt...because it would mean they all know about the hoax, OR that they're all being manipulated.
I don't know what to think anymore about seeing so much "clues" I think they are just "tribute stuff" and we're mixing up things.
This is my thought too. But maybe the few who are invited to the hoax have any contact with cocacola, sade and so on. And they manipulate their acts in a positive way. i don't know... :?
i dont know it either, but like you said it SONY blocked the contents.
And SONY is connected to michael isnt it.
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:lol: my sig seconds that tweet lol
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Latest tweet:
"You lose nothing from believing"
Maybe it refers to that we keep questioning this twitter account?....
I feel like it's about God. We have nothing to loose to believe in God but everything to win. Paradise. So why not believe ? Imagine if it appears to be true. The end of the world is going to happen for sure. We're all going to die it's a certainty. So we must think about the afterlife, the real life. This world is an illusion, a big illusion, a perfect illusion.
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i dont know it either, but like you said it SONY blocked the contents.
And SONY is connected to michael isnt it.
It is more likely youtube blocking the vids because there are license models established in some countries that would force youtube to pay a licence fee to Sony for each time the vids are being clicked. since they don't want to pay.... internet is not for free. there are copyright restrictions,
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i dont know it either, but like you said it SONY blocked the contents.
And SONY is connected to michael isnt it.
It is more likely youtube blocking the vids because there are license models established in some countries that would force youtube to pay a licence fee to Sony for each time the vids are being clicked. since they don't want to pay.... internet is not for free. there are copyright restrictions,
You're right
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Here is the latest tweet
thisisalmostit "Ignorance is the choice to deny your own intelligence"
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I think this person has a problem with Prince :lol:
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"Everything seems to point to knowledge implies an implicit reality that surrounds us understanding, but this also opens the door to speculate that knowledge as element other than ourselves is endless because it depends on is a relationship between the observer and the observed where is limited by the observer and the observed is unlimited."
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Could anyone tell me who is "Thisalmostit"?
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If you ever have the answer, I SWEAR, I'll get you a T-shirt signed with taco's sauce by Tito Jackson :lol:
and for Thisisalmostit : You are a strange person, but maybe in a good way...and i'd like to know more about you. Who are you ? I mean there is a time where message is not enough. You have to show yourself in light if you don't want us to stop listening to you as blind people. You're not God ! Just dare talk to us !
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^^Are you trying to tell me this is a 30 paged about a unknown person? :lol: :?
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^^Are you trying to tell me this is a 30 paged about a unknown person? :lol: :?
Exactly ! No one knows who this account belongs to. He/she twits interesting things but we don't know who it is. Some think it's Michael, other think it could be Prince... :roll:
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^^Are you trying to tell me this is a 30 paged about a unknown person? :lol: :?
Exactly ! No one knows who this account belongs to. He/she twits interesting things but we don't know who it is. Some think it's Michael, other think it could be Prince... :roll:
And I think is none of them :lol:
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^^Are you trying to tell me this is a 30 paged about a unknown person? :lol: :?
If the information is valuable I think that it's not a waste of time to look into it. :)
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^^Are you trying to tell me this is a 30 paged about a unknown person? :lol: :?
If the information is valuable I think that it's not a waste of time to look into it. :)
Boarf....if you don't know who says it, how can you give sense to a message :?:
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We all like to know who is :lol: ,.... please a hint ... :| :mrgreen:
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^^Are you trying to tell me this is a 30 paged about a unknown person? :lol: :?
If the information is valuable I think that it's not a waste of time to look into it. :)
Boarf....if you don't know who says it, how can you give sense to a message :?:
I give a sense to a message regarding its content no matter who is the messenger. What's the most important in terms of being well informed ? To get new and valuable information after investigation or to consider an information valuable and true only considering the messenger ? I think that we always must stick to the message first, focus on what is relevant or not no matter who is behind. In a way to not know the messenger forces us to think for ourselves because when we don't know who is behind the message we will have less prejudices (positive or negative) and will investigate.
When we know who is the messenger we will have prejudices (it's human nature) and will more easily believe or not the message without investigation just because we know who is behind. Of course it's not a generality but it happens very often. Hope you see what I mean :) . God bless you.
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Latest tweet:
“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.”
Elvis Presley quote
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Latest tweet:
“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.”
Elvis Presley quote
That's also...A very very interesting allusion to the Greek god Apollo, who is a representation of the sun, the truth, as well as music. (Interestingly enough, this god's birthday is on the 7th day of the 7th month)
I'm not saying that's what Elvis was definitely alluding to, but I just wanted to add my thought. :)
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Latest tweet:
“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.”
Elvis Presley quote
It's also a famous quote of Buddha's.
Meh. Just seems like one of those
"inspirational" keep-the-faith quotes.
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Newest tweet:
Lunar eclipse
In 2010 according to Nasa website partial lunar eclipse will be 26th June and total lunar eclipse 21st December...I hope we don't have to wait till December... ;)
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The 25th and June 26th to see things happen .. :?: I hope that is good news. :D
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Latest tweet:
“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.”
Elvis Presley quote
This quote makes me think of a solar eclipse. There is a total solar eclipse July 11, 2010.
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Latest tweet:
“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.”
Elvis Presley quote
This quote makes me think of a solar eclipse. There is a total solar eclipse July 11, 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_ecli ... y_11,_2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_July_11,_2010)
The eclipse will be visible over much of the southern Pacific Ocean, touching several small islands including Tuamotu in French Polynesia and Easter Island, as well as the southern tips of Argentina and Chile in South America.
Interesting idea! Do you think the location could be of further interest?..
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New:
The planets ARE lining up
It's the Lyrics from Another part of me:
We`re takin` over
We have the truth
This is the mission
To see it through
Don`t point your finger
Not dangerous
This is our planet
You`re one of us
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me...
A rather nation
Fulfill the truth
The final message
We`re bring to you
There is no danger
Fulfill the truth
So come together
We`re mean is you
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
So look the truth
You`re just another part of me...
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me
Another part of me...
We`re takin` over
This is the truth, baby
Another part of me
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The planets are lining up will also occur on September 8, 2040 as it is stated on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2040 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2040) May I also add, Michael's spaceship was inscribed with the numbers 2040.
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New:
The planets ARE lining up
It's the Lyrics from Another part of me:
We`re takin` over
We have the truth
This is the mission
To see it through
Don`t point your finger
Not dangerous
This is our planet
You`re one of us
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me...
A rather nation
Fulfill the truth
The final message
We`re bring to you
There is no danger
Fulfill the truth
So come together
We`re mean is you
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
So look the truth
You`re just another part of me...
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me
Another part of me...
We`re takin` over
This is the truth, baby
Another part of me
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I have thought for some time now that the song, "Another Part of Me" is COMPLETELY tied to The HOAX!! Could it be any more clear? :shock:
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New:
The planets ARE lining up
It's the Lyrics from Another part of me:
We`re takin` over
We have the truth
This is the mission
To see it through
Don`t point your finger
Not dangerous
This is our planet
You`re one of us
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me...
A rather nation
Fulfill the truth
The final message
We`re bring to you
There is no danger
Fulfill the truth
So come together
We`re mean is you
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
So look the truth
You`re just another part of me...
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me
Another part of me...
We`re takin` over
This is the truth, baby
Another part of me
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I have thought for some time now that the song, "Another Part of Me" is COMPLETELY tied to The HOAX!! Could it be any more clear? :shock:
Me too !! :o I played this song over and over again when I heard he died, there is a message definitely. And I hadn´t been listening to music for years ........
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Latest tweet....
Duality? http://tinyurl.com/27ztekq (http://tinyurl.com/27ztekq) about 2 hours ago via web
Where has everyone gone? I spent days reading this thread and was ready to see if there was a cell available for me also. But this thread seems to have cooled down! :)
I Love You Michael Forever & Always!
Whenever you need me..I'll be there!
Just Look over your shoulder Honey! ;)
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MJ_ForeverandAlways I am here, my nurse let me out of my cell for a while. :lol:
Duality ?,.... The duality is part of nature, transcending the human, as it is everywhere, there must be day and night, light and darkness, matter and energy.
Opposites are two sides of the same coin, co-exist :mrgreen:
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i've given up on thisisalmostit i just think it's Prince or someone obsessed with Prince.... :evil:
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It´s a lost fan.
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As I said first
- it goes in every direction, though some article ARE intesresting
- sometime I feel it's a Prince fan trying to say that Michael wasn't "that" important (bad side of the twitt I read)
- sometime I feel he tries to show us a link between Prince and Michael, but WHAT LINK ? What should we understand ?
- Sometime articles are about end of the world or things like that, where you just wonder why we jump for Prince to "end of the world"
I don't know what to think anymore about what he twitts cause it has no direction AND, I said I'd like to know who it is, cause I'd like to know what he is talking about. We need to know who the messenger is, to understand the message (did I already said that ?)
It is necessary to know where he want us to go with all that.
Investigating with the pure information is good but just think about this exemple
God saying : "Believe"
Evil saying : "Believe"
Message is the same, but you need to know who the messenger is, to know WHAT the message really means.
Here it's just an amount of information that goes nowhere, and maybe he just loves to be read, and questionned, remaining in the shadow. But until I don't know who it is, I'll give no serious look to what he says.
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whatyourheartsays You're right, I always say this is internet, .. you never know exactly :?
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Duality. I found this article: http://www.examiner.com/x-1935-Astrolog ... n-and-moon (http://www.examiner.com/x-1935-Astrology-Examiner~y2009m6d29-Michael-Jackson-The-curses-and-blessings-of-opposing-sun-and-moon)
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Latest tweet....
Duality? http://tinyurl.com/27ztekq (http://tinyurl.com/27ztekq) about 2 hours ago via web
Where has everyone gone? I spent days reading this thread and was ready to see if there was a cell available for me also. But this thread seems to have cooled down! :)
“Prince played his bass in the middle of my face! What’s up with that?”
I´m still here, rofl on that passage above... -just try to visualize that! :lol:
Duality. I found this article: http://www.examiner.com/x-1935-Astrolog ... n-and-moon (http://www.examiner.com/x-1935-Astrology-Examiner~y2009m6d29-Michael-Jackson-The-curses-and-blessings-of-opposing-sun-and-moon)
That´s an interesting article, thank you!
I didn´t delve into astrology for quite a while, but there is some truth behind it.
I know this coincidence of opposites myself-leo sun & the moon pisces = fire meets water.
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New:
We have to raise our voice as ONE .
For me it refers to the lyrics of We've Had Enough
If you don't or already know this song, please listen to it again, it's heartbreaking, my eyes are full of tears right now, i don't care right now who tweets these things, the messages of Michael's songs are always the same regardless of the messanger....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVcplZIynGo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVcplZIynGo)
We've Had Enough lyrics
Love was taken from a young life
And no one told her why
Her direction has a dimlight
From one more violent crime
She innocently questioned why
Why her father had to die
She asked the men in blue
How is it that you get to choose
Who will live and who will die
Did God say that you could decide ?
You saw he didn't run
And that my daddy had no gun
In the middle of a village
Way in a distant land
Lies a poor boy with his broken toy
Too young to understand
He's awaken, ground is shakin
His father grabs his hand
Screaming, crying, his wife's dying
Now he's left to explain
He innocently questioned why
Why his mother had to die
What did these soldiers come here for ?
If they're for peace, why is there war ?
Did God say that they could decide
Who will live and who will die ?
All my mama ever did
Was try to take care of her kids
We're innocently standing by
Watching people lose their lives
It seems as if we have no voice
It's time for us to make a choice
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from you baby
We can't take it
We've already had enough
Deep in my soul baby
Deep in your soul and let God decide
Deep in my soul
It's up to me and i'm still alive
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't take it
We've already had enough
It's going down baby
Just let God decide,
It's going on baby
Just let God decide
Deep in my soul baby
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't, we can't
We've already had enough
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latest tweet :
We have to raise our voice as ONE .
it's a line from a Michael Jackson song called we've had enough ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53Ubm4txus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53Ubm4txus)
the line that mostly caught my attention is " It's so big and i'm still alive"
what do you think ?
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New:
The planets ARE lining up
It's the Lyrics from Another part of me:
We`re takin` over
We have the truth
This is the mission
To see it through
Don`t point your finger
Not dangerous
This is our planet
You`re one of us
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me...
A rather nation
Fulfill the truth
The final message
We`re bring to you
There is no danger
Fulfill the truth
So come together
We`re mean is you
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
So look the truth
You`re just another part of me...
We`re sendin` out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you
(Message to you)
The planets are linin` up
We`re bringin` brighter days
They`re all in line
Waitin` for you
Can`t you see...?
You`re just another part of me
Another part of me...
We`re takin` over
This is the truth, baby
Another part of me
***********************************************************************************************
I have thought for some time now that the song, "Another Part of Me" is COMPLETELY tied to The HOAX!! Could it be any more clear? :shock:
Me too !! :o I played this song over and over again when I heard he died, there is a message definitely. And I hadn´t been listening to music for years ........
Yes it was the same for me, but the strange thing was that I just had the "the planets are lining up bringing brighter days" running through my head after 25 June, but I didnt really know which song it was from knew it was MJ song, had to find out what it was it was so strange, it was for a while like a continual stream of MJ music which was there all the time morning noon and even asleep, it was way past weird, it has settled down a lot now. :?
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If Michelle is really beautiful ... the fight for another world possible .. as Gandhi said , "the Obtained of violence can only be maintained by violence " :geek:
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next Batman The_Riddler Goodluck : lol :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddler)
http://www.kelbogos.com/johnny-depp-18-1463/ (http://www.kelbogos.com/johnny-depp-18-1463/)
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Latest tweet....
Duality? http://tinyurl.com/27ztekq (http://tinyurl.com/27ztekq) about 2 hours ago via web
Where has everyone gone? I spent days reading this thread and was ready to see if there was a cell available for me also. But this thread seems to have cooled down! :)
I Love You Michael Forever & Always!
Whenever you need me..I'll be there!
Just Look over your shoulder Honey! ;)
I knew it!
I have been going on and on about duality for weeks :lol:
There is no Physical double, doppleganger or twin.
The double stuff is a clue to Dualism.
There is only one Michael! :D
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New Tweet: NPG
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New Tweet: NPG
New Power Generation?
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National Photo Group?
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National Photo Group?
http://olgeya.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/ ... l-jackson/ (http://olgeya.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/national-photo-group-and-their-role-in-staging-the-death-of-michael-jackson/) :?:
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New Tweet: NPG
New Power Generation?
Prince again:-
Lyrics to New Power Generation
Lay down your funky weapon
Yeah y'all, here we go
pumpin' the big noise in the 90's
Pardon me 4 living, but this is my world 2
I can't help that what's cool to us might be strange to u
Pardon me 4 breathing, can we borrow some of your air?
the problem with u and your kind is that u don't know love is there
Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
making love and music's the only things worth fighting 4
We r the new power generation, we want 2 change the world
The only thing that's in our way is u
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
we're sick and tired of u telling us what 2 do
Pardon me 4 thinking, but there's something under my hair
I bet u thought the lights were on but noone's living there
U think that if u tell enough lies they will see the truth?
I hope they bury your old ideas the same time they bury u
Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
making love and music's the only things worth fighting 4
We r the new power generation, we want 2 change the world
The only thing that's in our way is u
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
we're sick and tired of u telling us what 2 do
We r the new, We r the new, We r the new
making love and music
new power, we stand
Pardon us for caring, we didn't know it was against the rules (shout it out)
if we only want to love one another
then tell me now who's the fool (tell me, tell me)
no father, no mother, no sister, no brother, nobody can make me stop
said if u didn't come 2 party child, I think u better get up offa my block
Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
making love and music's the only things worth fighting 4
We r the new power generation, we want 2 change the world
The only thing that's in our way is u
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
we're sick and tired of u telling us what 2 do
why don't u just be happy, baby
[chorus repeated with this sung over it]
go on and get up offa my block
get up offa my block, because
love is there if you'd just open up 2 it
if you'd just believe your whole world would change
New power generation, you've got to rearrange. We've got
we r the new power generation, you've gotta give up all the fight
we gotta try 2 love one another, baby. we r the new power generation
we r the new power generation
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As I said first
- it goes in every direction, though some article ARE intesresting
- sometime I feel it's a Prince fan trying to say that Michael wasn't "that" important (bad side of the twitt I read)
- sometime I feel he tries to show us a link between Prince and Michael, but WHAT LINK ? What should we understand ?
- Sometime articles are about end of the world or things like that, where you just wonder why we jump for Prince to "end of the world"
I don't know what to think anymore about what he twitts cause it has no direction AND, I said I'd like to know who it is, cause I'd like to know what he is talking about. We need to know who the messenger is, to understand the message (did I already said that ?)
It is necessary to know where he want us to go with all that.
Investigating with the pure information is good but just think about this exemple
God saying : "Believe"
Evil saying : "Believe"
Message is the same, but you need to know who the messenger is, to know WHAT the message really means.
Here it's just an amount of information that goes nowhere, and maybe he just loves to be read, and questionned, remaining in the shadow. But until I don't know who it is, I'll give no serious look to what he says.
I don't really agree on that. I believe that God is the ultimate Truth and that the Devil wants to corrupt this truth here on earth. How will you make the difference between God's message and the Devil's one ? Because of the content, because we have to investigate and study even God's words to understand them. It's not enough to blindly believe in God for example. We must read and study each word, compare according to the context etc. Believing without understanding prevent us from reaching other truths and can lead us to believe lies.
Now talking about this twitter account and the person behind I understand you and it's normal that we want to know if he or she has good intentions, if she/he's legit regarding the hoax. I understand that but doesn't the content of the twitts give an idea ? I myself check the twitts to see if there's something interesting and dig deeper if necessary no more nor less.
Now curiosity is human nature, I myself would like to know who is behind this account or behind TS. Maybe we will know time will tell.
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Prince again...
I mean, is he gonna send us all Prince lyrics :roll:
I mean, I could buy the albums by myself :D
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As I said first
- it goes in every direction, though some article ARE intesresting
- sometime I feel it's a Prince fan trying to say that Michael wasn't "that" important (bad side of the twitt I read)
- sometime I feel he tries to show us a link between Prince and Michael, but WHAT LINK ? What should we understand ?
- Sometime articles are about end of the world or things like that, where you just wonder why we jump for Prince to "end of the world"
I don't know what to think anymore about what he twitts cause it has no direction AND, I said I'd like to know who it is, cause I'd like to know what he is talking about. We need to know who the messenger is, to understand the message (did I already said that ?)
It is necessary to know where he want us to go with all that.
Investigating with the pure information is good but just think about this exemple
God saying : "Believe"
Evil saying : "Believe"
Message is the same, but you need to know who the messenger is, to know WHAT the message really means.
Here it's just an amount of information that goes nowhere, and maybe he just loves to be read, and questionned, remaining in the shadow. But until I don't know who it is, I'll give no serious look to what he says.
I don't really agree on that. I believe that God is the ultimate Truth and that the Devil wants to corrupt this truth here on earth. How will you make the difference between God's message and the Devil's one ? Because of the content, because we have to investigate and study even God's words to understand them. It's not enough to blindly believe in God for example. We must read and study each word, compare according to the context etc. Believing without understanding prevent us from reaching other truths and can lead us to believe lies.
Now talking about this twitter account and the person behind I understand you and it's normal that we want to know if he or she has good intentions, if she/he's legit regarding the hoax. I understand that but doesn't the content of the twitts give an idea ? I myself check the twitts to see if there's something interesting and dig deeper if necessary no more nor less.
Now curiosity is human nature, I myself would like to know who is behind this account or behind TS. Maybe we will know time will tell.
I understand what you say, but are we gonna investigate every single nut on Tiwtter ? This one twitts many things that goes nowhere...OK prince, OK Michael, OK End of the world...and so what ? Anyone could play this game to send lyrics and then say : "hey guys, what are you gonna do with this one ?"
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I don't know but for myself I only take a quick look and don't dig that deeper. The twitts are simple and do not generate big investigation but rather "philosophical" thoughts.
Prince is recurrent that's true but maybe that Prince has the lyrics corresponding to the message this person wants to give. Maybe yes he or she is a fan of Prince and uses his knowledge of Prince lyrics to relay his/her message. :|
Well I don't know what is exactly the "final message" too.
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I don't know but for myself I only take a quick look and don't dig that deeper. The twitts are simple and do not generate big investigation but rather "philosophical" thoughts.
Prince is recurrent that's true but maybe that Prince has the lyrics corresponding to the message this person wants to give. Maybe yes he or she is a fan of Prince and uses his knowledge of Prince lyrics to relay his/her message. :|
Well I don't know what is exactly the "final message" too.
The thing is I really doubt there is a final message... :roll:
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I don't know but for myself I only take a quick look and don't dig that deeper. The twitts are simple and do not generate big investigation but rather "philosophical" thoughts.
Prince is recurrent that's true but maybe that Prince has the lyrics corresponding to the message this person wants to give. Maybe yes he or she is a fan of Prince and uses his knowledge of Prince lyrics to relay his/her message. :|
Well I don't know what is exactly the "final message" too.
The thing is I really doubt there is a final message... :roll:
Do we know for sure what is exactly Michael's message at this point?
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hmm
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/TIALMOSTITwitter.jpg)
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/TGM.jpg)
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=496389685&albumId=1058581
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Can you explain this myspace thing ? :|
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Can you explain this myspace thing ? :|
This is The Greatest Milestones myspace using the screen name peterpanpyt. They uploaded that picture which is the same one that thisisalmostit uses. They had voice message on their myspace last summer that sounded like Michael and some guy named Don or something claimed it was actually him. There was quite a bit of discussion about it back then. There is also this thread recently about this person who calls themselves "Peter" and he sings Michael Jackson songs in a tiny chatroom every once in a while.
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10941&p=184582&hilit=peterpanpyt#p184582
I just found it unusual that he put this up as his "true identity" if he insists he isn't Michael or that he isn't trying to make people think he is Michael. He knows people think that he is and some things on his myspace allude to that as well.
For example he has a blurb above the chatroom that is embedded on his page and it says this:
REPEAT I AM NOT MICHAEL JACKSON AND THIS IS NOT MICHAEL JACKSON MYSPACE PAGE..... I am a huge fan of the Jackson family and i will support them till the very end my friend :) that how deep my heart lay for them Hello, Welcome to my chatroom on myspace.com. If I'm not in the chatroom during the time you visit my page. Please leave a note or connect me on "myspace IM" Please no disrespecting any of the jackson family or anybody in this chat room. I am
see how it ends with the words "I am" the next thing on the page is the chatroom with what looks like a web cam pic. Michael Jackson Chat Room.
So if you read it, it seems to say : I am Michael Jackson
This myspace was originally created in 2007 though it has been deleted and recreated many times. I am not saying that I believe it is Michael or not. I am just confused by this person behaviour.
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NPG
about 16 hours ago via web
http://www.npg.org/ (http://www.npg.org/)
Negative Population Growth (NPG)
Organization formed to educate the American people about the detrimental effects a large U.S. and world population has on our environment.
:ugeek:
Peace
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NPG
about 16 hours ago via web
http://www.npg.org/ (http://www.npg.org/)
Negative Population Growth (NPG)
Organization formed to educate the American people about the detrimental effects a large U.S. and world population has on our environment.
:ugeek:
Peace
Its a photo group comapny, not a orgainzation
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National Photo Group?
http://olgeya.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/ ... l-jackson/ (http://olgeya.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/national-photo-group-and-their-role-in-staging-the-death-of-michael-jackson/) :?:
Thank you!
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NPG
about 16 hours ago via web
http://www.npg.org/ (http://www.npg.org/)
Negative Population Growth (NPG)
Organization formed to educate the American people about the detrimental effects a large U.S. and world population has on our environment.
:ugeek:
Peace
Its a photo group comapny, not a orgainzation
HAHA ! How do you know what Thisisalmostit means ? Maybe if we knew who he was, we knew where he goes :lol:
OK OK , I stop ! I'm just fed up with this person...
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I could be wrong and please correct me if I am....but is there not a lot of similarities between Michael's songs and messages and Prince's? It seems to me they are both trying to get the same message out through their music. So, could it be possible that Prince is working with Michael? I don't know it's just a thought.
I Love You Michael, Forever & Always
Whenever you need me...I'll be there
Just look over your shoulder Honey! ;)
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I could be wrong and please correct me if I am....but is there not a lot of similarities between Michael's songs and messages and Prince's? It seems to me they are both trying to get the same message out through their music. So, could it be possible that Prince is working with Michael? I don't know it's just a thought.
I Love You Michael, Forever & Always
Whenever you need me...I'll be there
Just look over your shoulder Honey! ;)
"great minds think alike" I'm sure they were closer than they showed in public...
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Also, I thought I read somewhere that Prince encountered problems in his career, similar to Michael and disappeared for a while? If so then, he could be on the same mission as Michael. ;)
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hmm
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/TIALMOSTITwitter.jpg)
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/TGM.jpg)
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=496389685&albumId=1058581
This profile picture used by thisisalmostit comes from the artists Sarah Weaver's blog.
"I am a artist living in Santa Cruz. I have recently graduated with a Masters in Fine Arts from the Academy of Art University in San Francisco. I get a lot of joy out of many different forms of expression. I hope you enjoy my work. **DO NOT use images without my consent! If you plan on using my paintings in a derivative work(s), displaying my works publicly, selling or assigning rights to others, please give credit or kindly send an email.thanks!***"
http://sarahweaverillustrator.blogspot.com/2008/12/thesis-piecestodays-icons-by-sarah.html
It is from a collection called: Thesis Pieces...."TODAYS ICONS" by Sarah Weaver.
It is entitled:
Michael Jackson
“Boy Behind the Mask”
18” by 24”, acrylic on gessoed illustration board
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x
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NPG
about 16 hours ago via web
http://www.npg.org/ (http://www.npg.org/)
Negative Population Growth (NPG)
Organization formed to educate the American people about the detrimental effects a large U.S. and world population has on our environment.
:ugeek:
Peace
Its a photo group comapny, not a orgainzation
HAHA ! How do you know what Thisisalmostit means ? Maybe if we knew who he was, we knew where he goes :lol:
OK OK , I stop ! I'm just fed up with this person...
:geek: :geek: :geek:
@ Sam...
Did I make an "absolute" statement that this was what was meant by the tweet? Or did I make an attempt to "THINK" and do research on a possible meaning for the letters? Exactly what did you contribute to this, other than a statement to me of your negative attitude and stating it to be "absolute" that the letters are for a photo group and NOT for a orginization that deals with "ENVIRONMENT"...
:geek:
@What your heart says,
Nice answer, laughing at me and following the crowd will lead you off a cliff if your not careful... How do you know it is Not what he meant?
Instead of ridiculing me or superficially looking at a tweet why not do some work. Think of other possiblities of a meaning to a tweet. BTW in my comment do you see any where that I state this was "absolute" meaning for the tweet or did I make an attempt to contribute a possibility?
Peace
:ugeek:
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Newest:
Lak 'ech Ala k'in
And i found this explanation:
In Mayan tradition, there is a greeting that many people working with Mayan wisdom know of. It is the law of In Lak'ech Ala K'in, which means I am another yourself (A modern day interpretation). It also means I am you, and you are me (A traditional Mayan interpretation). We have come to understand that this Mayan greeting is an honoring for each other.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFwHttcze0A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFwHttcze0A)
Message vs. Messenger?
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Newest:
Lak 'ech Ala k'in
And i found this explanation:
In Mayan tradition, there is a greeting that many people working with Mayan wisdom know of. It is the law of In Lak'ech Ala K'in, which means I am another yourself (A modern day interpretation). It also means I am you, and you are me (A traditional Mayan interpretation). We have come to understand that this Mayan greeting is an honoring for each other.
Very interesting Michelle. To me it can symbolize the fact that we all come from the same "root" and we must live knowing that we are symbolically all brothers and sisters. Differences should be seen as a gift from God and we should enjoy it and share more of ourselves with each other. I am you so I will do to you what I would like you to do for me. It also brings us to equality and justice themes.
Off topic: I really love your signature Michael makes me smile. ;)
(just for the record this is my 777th post :D :lol: )
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFwHttcze0A
Message vs. Messenger?
I love the song in that video. It's "Nostalgia" by Greek musician Yanni. xD One of my fave artists as well as MJ! <33
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Lak ' ech Ala k'in
Unity and harmony... :D
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NPG
about 16 hours ago via web
http://www.npg.org/ (http://www.npg.org/)
Negative Population Growth (NPG)
Organization formed to educate the American people about the detrimental effects a large U.S. and world population has on our environment.
:ugeek:
Peace
Its a photo group comapny, not a orgainzation
HAHA ! How do you know what Thisisalmostit means ? Maybe if we knew who he was, we knew where he goes :lol:
OK OK , I stop ! I'm just fed up with this person...
:geek: :geek: :geek:
@ Sam...
Did I make an "absolute" statement that this was what was meant by the tweet? Or did I make an attempt to "THINK" and do research on a possible meaning for the letters? Exactly what did you contribute to this, other than a statement to me of your negative attitude and stating it to be "absolute" that the letters are for a photo group and NOT for a orginization that deals with "ENVIRONMENT"...
:geek:
@What your heart says,
Nice answer, laughing at me and following the crowd will lead you off a cliff if your not careful... How do you know it is Not what he meant?
Instead of ridiculing me or superficially looking at a tweet why not do some work. Think of other possiblities of a meaning to a tweet. BTW in my comment do you see any where that I state this was "absolute" meaning for the tweet or did I make an attempt to contribute a possibility?
Peace
:ugeek:
I was quoting samsuperb and was being IRONIC about the fact that we still cannot agree on what this account is about. Sorry you took it the wrong way. I didn't mean to hurt you at all ;)
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Today;
Truth is in the eye of the beholder
We are seeing the truth, is there before us :mrgreen:
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I'm still watching :geek:
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Today;
Truth is in the eye of the beholder
We are seeing the truth, is there before us :mrgreen:
I think that many people adapt and adjust the "truth" according to their own pre-conceived beliefs. They stay locked in these beliefs and see things only regarding this point of view. This is a very subjective way to see things and unfortunately this "behaviour" can lead people to see truths within lies. I think that in the quest of the truth we must place our point of view above the "fray" to be able to see all the pieces of the puzzle and try to connect them to get the big picture (the truth). It means that we must take an objective attitude. Now it doesn't mean necessarily that the truth doesn't match our original beliefs. It's more about the requested attitude before putting oneself in the quest of the truth.
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Newest:
Lak 'ech Ala k'in
And i found this explanation:
In Mayan tradition, there is a greeting that many people working with Mayan wisdom know of. It is the law of In Lak'ech Ala K'in, which means I am another yourself (A modern day interpretation). It also means I am you, and you are me (A traditional Mayan interpretation). We have come to understand that this Mayan greeting is an honoring for each other.
Very interesting Michelle. To me it can symbolize the fact that we all come from the same "root" and we must live knowing that we are symbolically all brothers and sisters. Differences should be seen as a gift from God and we should enjoy it and share more of ourselves with each other. I am you so I will do to you what I would like you to do for me. It also brings us to equality and justice themes.
Off topic: I really love your signature Michael makes me smile. ;)
(just for the record this is my 777th post :D :lol: )
Thanks Sarahli, i looove this sig also very much :P
By the way, since when is there the name Peter Pan on thisisalmostit twitter page? It seems i missed it....
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Well if you add the "Lak 'ech Ala k'in" (means you are another part of me) tweet and the latest tweet about the planets,
(part of the lyrics of you are another part of me) the 2012 theory makes some sense........
This was from May 11, 3:54 am. Oh, the interconnectedness!!! (to the other post, "The planets are lining up".)
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Lak 'ech Ala k'in
In actual translation that means living code of the heart
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By the way, since when is there the name Peter Pan on thisisalmostit twitter page? It seems i missed it.
I noticed that too. It always said Michael Jackson before.
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I saw it today :|
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By the way, since when is there the name Peter Pan on thisisalmostit twitter page? It seems i missed it.
I noticed that too. It always said Michael Jackson before.
It looks like the first person to comment on the name change, on Almost's twitter account, did so about 10 hours ago. So the name change was likely just before that!
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I don't think it was the same yesterday cause I was looking at who someone was following, and I saw his avatar with the name peter pan, so I was telling myself : who is this ? And I saw it was Thisisalmostit. This is how I realised the name has changed.
Anyway, can I say it's weird that many accounts are deleted or don't come anymore, that some make changes...it's just surprising.
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Truth is in the eye of the beholder
can say the eye of the camera
reminds me of a kind autograph on caméra mais not find the photo
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New:
This is no game, there are no winners and losers
Hmmm :? So nobody will be happy with the situation in the end?
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The thing with these riddles is that everyone can interpret them in their own way and relate it to something that might happen or has already happened.
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Of course it is not a game, I think this issue is very serious.
It is true what they say Sangre, we can all interpret it differently. ;)
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New:
This is no game, there are no winners and losers
Hmmm :? So nobody will be happy with the situation in the end?
Maybe it's in relation with the hoax. There will be no winners because it's not a game where there are some winners (like the World Cup for example :)) who win an "award" at the end of the competition. Therefore no losers. In reality everybody will be happy in the end ;) .
Well I don't know if it's about that just my feeling...
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or MJ is alive but never coming back? So non believer fans dont win or lose and believers dont win or lose
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This reminded of of a board game invented a while back called the "Ungame". Players answer random cards that ask questions about their life, memories, ideas etc. It's a wonderful sharing game, facilitating discussion, reminiscing, revealing personal feelings and opinions. It draws people closer together and bonds friends and family. It is non-competative meaning there are no winners or losers, because that's not the point!! I've played it lots years ago. http://www.ungame.com/ (http://www.ungame.com/)
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"Authority forgets a dying king"
Tennyson wrote: "the authority forgets a dying King." This is especially true in the case of John f. Kennedy, whose murder was probably one of the most terrible moments in U.s. history. "ask what can do for your country, not his country by you." Don't forget the dying King.
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Here is the newest tweet:
Lowell Henry
I've searched for what it suppose to mean to us, but can't figure it out.....i need help guys please!! :?
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Here is the newest tweet:
Lowell Henry
I've searched for what it suppose to mean to us, but can't figure it out.....i need help guys please!! :?
I have no idea what the specific reason for this tweet is but Lowell Henry is the treasurer of the Jackson developement and marketing corporation set up by Joe.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/24/michael-j ... on-estate/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/24/michael-jackson-joe-jackson-katherine-jackson-jackson-family-foundation-estate/)
According to this Lowell Henry used to be an assistant to Berry Gordy:-
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/06/24/mi ... ay-morning (http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/06/24/michael-jackson-memorial-set-for-friday-morning)
They are behind Katherine's recent book 'Never can say goodbye' and they are also behind the project in Gary for Michael Jackson art schools and museum etc...
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I also found this about running a campaign for Lowell Henry, it's long and I haven't got time to read all of it but there maybe something worth looking into here:-
http://www.clevelandmemory.org/ebooks/stokes/ch3.html (http://www.clevelandmemory.org/ebooks/stokes/ch3.html)
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Here is the newest tweet:
Lowell Henry
I've searched for what it suppose to mean to us, but can't figure it out.....i need help guys please!! :?
That's what I found out, too...
Should we follow the track lowell henrys?
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Maybe we need to ask dmovie27 for their thoughts as this person seems to think this is important. This is a comment from another thread about the speech in Gary:-
Postby dmovie27 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:58 pm
you guys don't realize how close you are...treasure...Lowell.
Follow the E's.
http://www.youtube.com/user/themichealproject20 (http://www.youtube.com/user/themichealproject20)
no jokes...no scams...just discovery and answers.
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New tweet:
"What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?"
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New tweet:
"What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?"
I think that everything relating to God is sacred.
When you say spirit I understand soul and the soul is not something palpable hence the difficulty to know with what it is made. Scientists have not been able to prevent a soul to quit her body...it just show how submitted we are.
I would say that our souls are at the image of what we nourish them with. Like our bodies our souls have to be nourished to be healthy and depending of the food they are given depends the health of a soul. The soul is then composed of spiritual food but also with something only God has the knowledge of. The soul never dies even if not spiritualy nourished, the lack of good food for the soul results in a "disturbed" soul, never satisfied, not patient for example and worse. The more we nourish our souls with good food the more we get closer to higher consciousness, serenity and peaceful mind.
I personally believe that God placed us on earth for a purpose no way it's by chance. It's worth living for nourishing our souls as much as we can during the small time we are allowed to live. It's worth dying for a just cause.
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New tweet:
"What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?"
To me the message is simple but true, not complicated in any way, just like Michaels message.
LOVE OR L.O.V.E if you really want to spell it out.
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New tweet:
"What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?"
I think that everything relating to God is sacred.
When you say spirit I understand soul and the soul is not something palpable hence the difficulty to know with what it is made. Scientists have not been able to prevent a soul to quit her body...it just show how submitted we are.
I would say that our souls are at the image of what we nourish them with. Like our bodies our souls have to be nourished to be healthy and depending of the food they are given depends the health of a soul. The soul is then composed of spiritual food but also with something only God has the knowledge of. The soul never dies even if not spiritualy nourished, the lack of good food for the soul results in a "disturbed" soul, never satisfied, not patient for example and worse. The more we nourish our souls with good food the more we get closer to higher consciousness, serenity and peaceful mind.
I personally believe that God placed us on earth for a purpose no way it's by chance. It's worth living for nourishing our souls as much as we can during the small time we are allowed to live. It's worth dying for a just cause.
Excellent post. Thank you all for sharing.
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New tweet:
"What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?"
I think that everything relating to God is sacred.
When you say spirit I understand soul and the soul is not something palpable hence the difficulty to know with what it is made. Scientists have not been able to prevent a soul to quit her body...it just show how submitted we are.
I would say that our souls are at the image of what we nourish them with. Like our bodies our souls have to be nourished to be healthy and depending of the food they are given depends the health of a soul. The soul is then composed of spiritual food but also with something only God has the knowledge of. The soul never dies even if not spiritualy nourished, the lack of good food for the soul results in a "disturbed" soul, never satisfied, not patient for example and worse. The more we nourish our souls with good food the more we get closer to higher consciousness, serenity and peaceful mind.
I personally believe that God placed us on earth for a purpose no way it's by chance. It's worth living for nourishing our souls as much as we can during the small time we are allowed to live. It's worth dying for a just cause.
Excellent post. Thank you all for sharing.
Thank you :)
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New tweet:
"What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?"
Movie
Don Juan DeMarco (1994)
Starring Johnny Depp
Don Juan: There are only four questions of value in life, Don Octavio. What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for?
The answer to each is the same: Only Love
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112883/quotes
Plot
A young man (who is the legendary Don Juan?), comes to New York in search of his lost love. Feeling like he has nothing to live for, he attempts to commit suicide from atop a billboard. Dr. Mickler is a soon retiring psychiatrist who helps Don Juan, come to his senses. He brings the costumed boy to the psychiatric hospital , in hopes of helping Don Juan find his identity. The doctor works with him for ten days, in which Don tells his life story. Mickler begins to believe that the young man is truly Don Juan, but the rest of the staff doesn't agree. The doctor knows that the only way out for Don Juan, is to pretend he's an average boy whose fantasy got the best of him.
A well-respected psychiatrist has a run-in with a young man who thinks he is Don Juan--or is he really? The Don Juan becomes his patient, and as the days pass, the psychiatrist starts to see that perhaps just because each person has his/her own reality doesn't mean they're crazy. "Don Juan", through his story-telling of his past, instills the psychiatrist with a new fire for life and love, changing his life.
Psychiatrist Jack Mickler dissuades a would-be suicide - the 21-year old, costumed like Zorro claiming he's Don Juan, is held for a ten-day review in a mental institution. Mickler, about to retire, insists on doing the evaluation and conducts it without medicating the youth. "Don Juan" tells his story - birth in Mexico, the death of his father, a year in a harem, and finding true love (and being rejected) on a remote island. Listening enlivens Mickler's relationship with his own wife. As the ten days tick down and pressure mounts on Mickler to support the youth's indefinite confinement, finding reality within the romantic imagination becomes Jack's last professional challenge.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112883/plotsummary
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Ever the teacher Osho said, "Either everything is sacred or nothing is", I really like that phrase.
And this one I read somewhere, It lives for what is worth a sorrow dying... the love
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Latest tweet:
Matthew 5:5
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Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth
To many, “meekness” suggests the idea of passivity, someone who is easily imposed upon, spinelessness, weakness. Since Jesus declared Himself to be meek (Matthew 11:29), some perceive Him as a sissy-type character.
Nothing could be further from the truth. In the Greek New Testament, “meek” is from the Greek term praus. It does not suggest weakness; rather, it denotes strength brought under control. The ancient Greeks employed the term to describe a wild horse tamed to the bridle.
In the biblical sense, therefore, it describes one who has channeled his strengths into the service of God.
The meek person submits to God!
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If meekness correctly details Jesus, must be linked to a tremendous courage, to the chastisement naked hypocrisy and dissimulation, and overflowing vitality. Jesus was not weak character in any sense
Like Jesus, who described himself as "meek and humble" heart (Matthew 11: 29). Paul pleads to the Corinthians "with meekness and tenderness of Christ" (II Corinthians 10: 1).
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Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth
To many, “meekness” suggests the idea of passivity, someone who is easily imposed upon, spinelessness, weakness. Since Jesus declared Himself to be meek (Matthew 11:29), some perceive Him as a sissy-type character.
Nothing could be further from the truth. In the Greek New Testament, “meek” is from the Greek term praus. It does not suggest weakness; rather, it denotes strength brought under control. The ancient Greeks employed the term to describe a wild horse tamed to the bridle.
In the biblical sense, therefore, it describes one who has channeled his strengths into the service of God.
The meek person submits to God!
Agree with you. Meek must be understood in its content and here it is related to being submitted to God, to follow His rule, to praise Him.
Meekness can also bring to wisdom because when you follow God's law who can reach this state of mind. Jesus was a great example of wisdom.
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Looks like a converting effort from tiai to gather more people to believe in God?
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Latest here...
thisisalmostit "What's it all 4 when U can alter biology? Who or what, then my friend, will U and I be?"
3 minutes ago via web
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Latest here...
thisisalmostit "What's it all 4 when U can alter biology? Who or what, then my friend, will U and I be?"
3 minutes ago via web
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Very interesting and thought provoking. Altering biology is very dangerous, it's playing a game you have no control over and where you have more chance to loose than win.
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playing God?
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Latest here...
thisisalmostit "What's it all 4 when U can alter biology? Who or what, then my friend, will U and I be?"
3 minutes ago via web:?
Again, Prince lyrics!
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From the song New world.
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New tweet:
Revelation 2010
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New tweet:
Revelation 2010
i read it too. and i retweetet, "what about is the revelation?"
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New tweet:
Revelation 2010
From Oxford dictionary, this caught my eye about the word revelation: • [mass noun] the making known of something that was previously secret or unknown: the revelation of a plot to assassinate the king.
This Tweet came about 10 min. after the CNN special, Michael Jackson -- The Final Days, started airing in my area. That was interesting! :shock:
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New tweet:
Revelation 2010
From Oxford dictionary, this caught my eye about the word revelation: • [mass noun] the making known of something that was previously secret or unknown: the revelation of a plot to assassinate the king.
This Tweet came about 10 min. after the CNN special, Michael Jackson -- The Final Days, started airing in my area. That was interesting! :shock:
yes thats interesting.. i really want to know who is behind "thisisalmostit" :)
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New tweet:
Revelation 2010
From Oxford dictionary, this caught my eye about the word revelation: • [mass noun] the making known of something that was previously secret or unknown: the revelation of a plot to assassinate the king.
This Tweet came about 10 min. after the CNN special, Michael Jackson -- The Final Days, started airing in my area. That was interesting! :shock:
yes thats interesting.. i really want to know who is behind "thisisalmostit" :)
Yeah so do I.
I typed in "Revelation 2010" into google and found this interesting website:
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/Number666/calendar.html (http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/Number666/calendar.html)
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We are today in those dates, in the middle of first decade of the 21st century, what is happening in our world? Let us try to define some important facets of a complex reality, from the viewpoint of the crisis, trying to sort from the concrete to the abstract.
1. Climate change
2. Global warming
3 Earthquakes and tsunamis.
4 Contamination
5 Extinction of species
6 Limited natural resources
7. Economic and financial crisis
8 The hegemonic power crisis
9. Cultural crisis
10 Crazy neoliberal and corporate
11. Virtual reality generated by the means of communication. And a structured network of corporate mass media, which is part of the direct interests of the Group of corporations that handle the resources of the planet, who is responsible for as many people as possible existence, intone siren voices, propose a system of life that much optimism is 18% of the inhabitants of the planet, estupidizar and maintain "entertaining" System. Daily bombard with the spread of a virtual reality, is convenient to their interests, in the attempt to maintain the status quo that we have been setting
Actually I don't think we are reaching the revelation that we are experiencing a very special and complex cyclical time that only we can overcome with a huge collective effort since the problem includes and agrees to all mankind.
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Maybe it's Revelation 20:10
"Revelation 20:10 (King James Version)
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
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I am totally lost, as usual.
I must change my name from Gema to Lost.
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I am totally lost, as usual.
I must change my name from Gema to Lost.
:lol: :lol: as Michael said "You are not alone" :lol: :lol:
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(http://katyperryforum.com/Smileys/classic/thsmiley_huggrouphuggle.gif)
When thisisalmostit post something I reply with "I can´t believe it´s not butter"....but I have read a bunch of Prince´s lyrics....
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! that butter !........... no, really is not butter :lol:
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this also came up as a result when googling 'revelation 2010'. interesting when considering that mike insisted on having organic food prepared by his chef and also in light of the degeneration of the foods we are consuming (processed and convenience foods, sweeteners etc.)
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... ol-people/ (http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/codex-alimentarius-control-food-and-you-control-people/)
there was also a french vid in the results about that but i couldn't do anything with it. my french is more than rusty...that made me look for 'codex alimentarius' and resulted in the above link.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbsbo5 ... x-ali_news (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbsbo5_secret-revelation-2010-le-codex-ali_news)
i think 'this is it'... :mrgreen:
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as usual, we should maybe search in Prince's life :lol:
Come on Prince ! Why don't you get yourself a real account on Twitter ?
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tabloidburn It is possible that your you have the reason, recollection that in the report of autopsy decia that in Michael's room met a few empty bottles of juice of orange and a bottle urine, as for the urine, this is the way since is detected when a person is addicted to a drug. I now believe that this urine belongs to Michael, it is the way of saying! I do not have problems of addiction!
And it of the juice of orange, to find this article of the year 2006, it is a bit long I am going to try to summarize important
Dr. Matthias Rath profile does not meet the usual doctor. His research on the positive influence of lysine and vitamin C as an alternative to the pharmacological treatment of some of the most serious diseases facing humanity - including cancer - work have faced you openly guardians of medical orthodoxy and the pharmaceutical industry. We talked with him so explain us denunciation of some large multinational manoeuvres to remove natural products as an alternative to the pharmaceutical products on the so-called Codex Alimentarius
-First allowed you scupper that "officially" is stated on the heart attacks and then discovered the efficacy of natural treatments, especially the use of two amino acids - lysine and proline - and vitamin C against cancer and other diseases. What has been the impact of their research in the pharmaceutical industry? -I started in conventional research further into the causes of cardiovascular diseases. That time still thought that a high level of cholesterol was the main cause of them. Under the influence of the manufacturers of cholesterol-lowering drugs "taught" doctors that a high level of it damages the walls of the arterial vessels and, along with deposits of calcium and fibrous tissue, is the main cause of the formation of the ateromas leading to obstruct them causing the strokes and spills. Today we know that this was just another tale of marketing in the pharmaceutical industry. If high cholesterol damaged walls of the arterial vessels do also in other places in our blood circulatory system. System obstruiría everywhere and not just in the heart or brain. In other words, we should also strokes of nose, ear, knees, elbows, fingers, and any other organ of the body. And it is clear that this is not the case.
Then I discovered that cardiovascular diseases are virtually unknown in the animal world is the leading cause of death among human beings. It was a great step forward for the natural health around the world. Animals produce its own vitamin C, needed to produce the reinforcement of our body and circulatory system, molecules called collagen. How much more vitamin C, more collagen, more stability to the walls of our blood vessels, fewer strokes. Animals rarely have heart attacks because they produce adequate amounts of vitamin C in their bodies. Human beings can not produce nor a single molecule of vitamin d and usually get very few vitamins in our diet with the consequent risk of our circulatory system to weaken. This series of discoveries was so convincing that not only explained why animals not suffer strokes and people do, but also why suffer heart and not nose attacks. Further research and clinical studies confirm beyond all doubt such impressive discovery. - And when you denounced what was happening in his book why animals do not suffer strokes and people Yes.
-Exact. It enumerated, for the first time the "laws of the pharmaceutical industry". Laws that identify pharmaceutical business as an investment industry and not an industry health disease. Desenmascaré the principle of patentability that because replacing the objective of research to solve health problems are governed by the investigating to earn money. And responsabilicé openly to the pharmaceutical industry in the premature deaths of hundreds of millions of people around the world in recent decades and the financial ruin of Nations and individuals as a result of huge spending on medicines.
-The pharmaceutical industry is an industry that has grown in a natural way. Artificially created by investors who, in order to make money with disease, had to block natural medical treatments and not patentable in such a way that were not available anywhere in the world. At the beginning of the 20th century the Rockefeller group already controlled most of the oil business in United States and other countries. And with the help of those billions of dollars in investment group decided to make health a new market. Only that the benefit or performance of such investment depended on commercial patents invented pharmaceutical drugs. So the benefits of the industry were used systematically to become a business driven only by the pharmaceutical medicine. And in only a few decades medicine became to be controlled by these interest groups through the influence exercised by schools or faculties of medicine, the media and the political arena. Obviously, one of the main problems that the industry had to face was the competence of natural health products. As between 1920 and 1935 most of the vitamins and essential nutrients needed for basic metabolism of cells were discovered. For the scientific world was clear that, without these essential in their metabolism molecules, the cells would not function properly and would be the source of diseases. Pharmaceutical industry strategists realized this and embarked on a campaign to prevent such vital information to be available to everyone. Although silence that information was only the first step. Subsequently adopted other strategic measures to strengthen the fraudulent pharmaceutical business plan as discrediting information on natural and non-patentable therapies and, finally, trying to prohibit any statement on prevention and natural therapies. All these measures had only a purpose: protect the pharmaceutical industry based on patentable drugs - only palian symptoms - natural and non-patentable therapies that are essential for maintaining cellular health. Simply prevented or eradicated disease does not allow to profit.
Almost any physician who has licensed in a medical University during the last decades knows Nobel for the role of vitamin C in cellular metabolism first prize was awarded in 1937. Thus, for more than half a century, generations of doctors - million worldwide - licensed in medicine without knowing anything about the vital role of vitamins and minerals. And everybody can immediately understand the devastating consequences of this strategy for human health worldwide. Especially because of the billions of people living today very few know that the human body is unable to produce its own vitamin C. When is a scientifically proven fact that vitamin C protects not only the so-called "disease of seamen", scurvy, but that is the main factor in preventing cardiovascular problems and many other pathologies. So the simple decision that this vital knowledge reached the medical profession deliberately allowed the current epidemic of cardiovascular diseases, causes death in the industrialized world as well as in more urbanised areas in the developing world number one
Hardly anyone knows neither to the human body does not produce the natural amino acid lysine, an essential protein block. And it turns out that this natural molecule lysine, is one of the factors most important in preventing the spread of cancer by the body.
Now, at the beginning of the 21st century, humanity begins to wake up from this nightmare. However, two of every three people in the industrialized world and the third world it would have left probably death in recent decades only with that information on necessary molecules to the cellular operation that our body does not produce any spread
The vitamins and minerals are at the meeting to be held this month back on the table next to a proposal on the requirements to be met by any product that claims to possess "claims". -Under the umbrella of the United Nations, the Committee of the Codex Alimentarius - meeting in Bonn from 4 to 7 - remain a crucial meeting in the light of the events of the past twelve months, especially taking into account that all decisions emanating from it are directly incorporated by who and have just finally affecting national laws. The new threat can come from the EU which has decided to adopt new policies that would end by actually assume the final prohibition of all natural therapies. Probably the 15 members of the EU to form a block of power that is against the few States members who demand a more open approach to natural therapies
-Is a scientific fact that practically all viruses can be blocked, wholly or partially, with natural therapies. Ascorbate (vitamin C) reduces virus multiplication (replication). A study published in the influential American Journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Science (procedures of the National Academy of science) in 1990 showed that vitamin C, in amounts that a person may take on a daily basis, could block replication of HIV than 99,9%! And we are talking about one of the world's most widely read scientific publications. Look, the pharmaceutical industry, the World Health Organization and medical leaders know that there are natural alternatives to drugs that are not patentable. And to be more effective in addition to any other current pharmacological approach to control a disease. A second critical to block the spread of the virus is the amino acid lysine. As all viruses propagate destroying tissue around them - the collagen-with the aid of enzymes (collagenases), the neutralization of these enzymes reduces or prevents the spread of the virus. Well, it demonstrated that natural amino acids lysine and proline are precisely this effect. Further, it is documented that vitamin A and other essential nutrients enhance the immune system and thereby contribute to prevention and effective treatment of AIDS.
Has Michael problems of addiction to drugs, or murio of an assault or heart failure?
This one is the link if they want to read it I complete, this one in Spanish, use a translator
http://www.aporrea.org/actualidad/a19912.html (http://www.aporrea.org/actualidad/a19912.html)
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Orange is not the best way to get vitamine C...there are other fruits and veg that have much more vit C than Orange. And orange juice is not the best way to have vitamine C preserved.
I have guinea pigs (sorry for comparison :lol: ) and they need vitamine C everyday or they can die. We have to give them special veg, and orange is not part of the best for Vit C. parsley, fennel, green pepper, kiwi are better than Orange.
Once you made a juice, you have only 30 minutes to drink it ti get all the vitamine C cause it is destroyed by day-light.
I keep telling people they musn't put their guinea pig's vitamine in the drinking bottle because the light will destroyed all the vitamine within a few hours...
So orange juice is no medical way to cover needs...
And I think for a human being, it would make litters of orange juice to even get what you need if you have health problem. It's better to have it chemical way then...
I think there was orange juice just because he loved it :roll:
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Orange is not the best way to get vitamine C...there are other fruits and veg that have much more vit C than Orange. And orange juice is not the best way to have vitamine C preserved.
I have guinea pigs (sorry for comparison :lol: ) and they need vitamine C everyday or they can die. We have to give them special veg, and orange is not part of the best for Vit C. parsley, fennel, green pepper, kiwi are better than Orange.
And I think for a human being, it would make litters of orange juice to even get what you need if you have health problem. It's better to have it chemical way then...
I think there was orange juice just because he loved it :roll:
ORANGE JUICE = PT BARNUM RALTED?
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Orange is not the best way to get vitamine C...there are other fruits and veg that have much more vit C than Orange. And orange juice is not the best way to have vitamine C preserved.
I have guinea pigs (sorry for comparison :lol: ) and they need vitamine C everyday or they can die. We have to give them special veg, and orange is not part of the best for Vit C. parsley, fennel, green pepper, kiwi are better than Orange.
And I think for a human being, it would make litters of orange juice to even get what you need if you have health problem. It's better to have it chemical way then...
I think there was orange juice just because he loved it :roll:
ORANGE JUICE = PT BARNUM RALTED?
I don't understand what you say (really don't understand the words in english) can you say it differently ? (sorry)
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Orange is not the best way to get vitamine C...there are other fruits and veg that have much more vit C than Orange. And orange juice is not the best way to have vitamine C preserved.
I have guinea pigs (sorry for comparison :lol: ) and they need vitamine C everyday or they can die. We have to give them special veg, and orange is not part of the best for Vit C. parsley, fennel, green pepper, kiwi are better than Orange.
And I think for a human being, it would make litters of orange juice to even get what you need if you have health problem. It's better to have it chemical way then...
I think there was orange juice just because he loved it :roll:
ORANGE JUICE = PT BARNUM RELATED?
I don't understand what you say (really don't understand the words in english) can you say it differently ? (sorry)
SORRY BUT ENGLISH IS NOT MY LANGUAGE AND FRENCH EITHER LOL!
PT BARNUM WAS THE OWNER OF THE CIRCUS "THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH" OUTSIDE STAPLES THE MEMORIAL DAY. MJ WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN PT BARNUM AND ALL HIS EXCENTRICITIES AND THIS PT BARNUM HAVE SOME BUSINESS WITH ORANGES (I THINK) :?
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What's the link between PT Barnum and Orange Juice?
BTW I'm sorry CC I'll have your sig ready soon I didn't have my laptop hence no photoshop soooryyy!!
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What's the link between PT Barnum and Orange Juice?
BTW I'm sorry CC I'll have your sig ready soon I didn't have my laptop hence no photoshop soooryyy!!
no problem about the sig! ;)
i think that i was reading at the beggining of all this that PTBarnum have orange plantation or something like that... i don´t remember exactly but was discussed here about the orange juice at the bedroom and the relation with PT Barnum... maybe in the PT Barnum section you can found it!
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If CC here is the link and the explanation of Mo ;)
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=285 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=285)
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If CC here is the link and the explanation of Mo ;)
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=285 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=285)
thanks!! ;)
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thisisalmostit Stand up as one keep this trending now #ElvisAndMJdotcom
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! We all go ! , :lol:
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What's the link between PT Barnum and Orange Juice?
BTW I'm sorry CC I'll have your sig ready soon I didn't have my laptop hence no photoshop soooryyy!!
https://olgeya.wordpress.com/2010/02/28 ... us-part-6/ (https://olgeya.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/the-greatest-show-on-earth-the-show-begins%E2%80%A6-barnumbailey-circus-part-6/)
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thisisalmostit Mention #ElvisandMJdotcom in al your tweets and keep it trending, the world has to know the truth, spread the message .
Il y a 7 minutes via web
we work very well i think :D
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Latest tweet:-
You can't bend truth
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Latest tweet:-
You can't bend truth
You cannot hide from the truth because the truth always comes to light!
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thisisalmostit Mention #ElvisandMJdotcom in al your tweets and keep it trending, the world has to know the truth, spread the message .
Il y a 7 minutes via web
we work very well i think :D
This tweet has just lost me. I have no more faith that "thisisalmostit" knows anything. This is my humble opinion only. I wish people would quit playing games with us. Sorry - I had to say it. You can believe if you want to and prove me wrong if you wish but elvisandmjdotcom has nothing to do with Michael and the hoax.
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thisisalmostit Mention #ElvisandMJdotcom in al your tweets and keep it trending, the world has to know the truth, spread the message .
Il y a 7 minutes via web
we work very well i think :D
This tweet has just lost me. I have no more faith that "thisisalmostit" knows anything. This is my humble opinion only. I wish people would quit playing games with us. Sorry - I had to say it. You can believe if you want to and prove me wrong if you wish but elvisandmjdotcom has nothing to do with Michael and the hoax.
I just thought exactly the same when I saw he tweeted that. Doesn't mean i want to argue about Elvis theory, but I just see that he's just like one of us, he's reading the forum. So we can no longer think he's feeding us with "news" when he could also take his inspiration from here. :roll:
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Darkchild, It is true the truth sooner or later goes away is necessary to know
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thisisalmostit Mention #ElvisandMJdotcom in al your tweets and keep it trending, the world has to know the truth, spread the message .
Il y a 7 minutes via web
we work very well i think :D
This tweet has just lost me. I have no more faith that "thisisalmostit" knows anything. This is my humble opinion only. I wish people would quit playing games with us. Sorry - I had to say it. You can believe if you want to and prove me wrong if you wish but elvisandmjdotcom has nothing to do with Michael and the hoax.
I just thought exactly the same when I saw he tweeted that. Doesn't mean i want to argue about Elvis theory, but I just see that he's just like one of us, he's reading the forum. So we can no longer think he's feeding us with "news" when he could also take his inspiration from here. :roll:
Yep, he lost me also. I dont trust his tweets anymore, it will lead to nothing
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i'm not so sure if the tweets regarding #elvisandmjdotcom prove anything in terms of 'thisisalmostit' not knowing anything. does he need to? and then knowing what exactly? did anyone actually expect some 'insider knowledge' from this tweeter? as if anyone would publish any details that way? i don't think so. even if anyone on the net knows anything, nobody would jeopardize this adventure and give it away in any fashion. nobody else but mike says 'go', if this whole thing should be working as planned.
fact remains that some of the links were very unusual and also very insightful, much more like others.
fact also remains that none of us knows who this is, if this person has any relation to mike, the hoax or not. even if it's 'just one of us' i don't see anything wrong or bad with it. still an interesting follow.
i'm pretty sure 'thisisalmostit' at least knows about this forum, which only shows that this is a serious place to be, hoaxwise. keep michaeling...
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well said TB. I agree with all you said.
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i'm not so sure if the tweets regarding #elvisandmjdotcom prove anything in terms of 'thisisalmostit' not knowing anything. does he need to? and then knowing what exactly? did anyone actually expect some 'insider knowledge' from this tweeter? as if anyone would publish any details that way? i don't think so. even if anyone on the net knows anything, nobody would jeopardize this adventure and give it away in any fashion. nobody else but mike says 'go', if this whole thing should be working as planned.
fact remains that some of the links were very unusual and also very insightful, much more like others.
fact also remains that none of us knows who this is, if this person has any relation to mike, the hoax or not. even if it's 'just one of us' i don't see anything wrong or bad with it. still an interesting follow.
i'm pretty sure 'thisisalmostit' at least knows about this forum, which only shows that this is a serious place to be, hoaxwise. keep michaeling...
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don't mix up : is the forum important because thisisalmostit read it, or do we give him importance because he seems to follow the forum.
To me, if he had any info else from the forum and believer, he wouldn't tweet what he is told to tweet here...this is the feeling I had reading this tweet. I thought he had a thought of his own that coudl be interesting, but when I read, i just have the feeling he acts like any other believer. Doesn't mean he's not interesting, but just that he's all about mystery around him, never answering people, tweeting weird stuffs for just showing us with this tweet, that he might be no more than a believer like us.
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honestly, i don't think it's important if this is 'just another believer'. i find the tweets interesting and if that person decides not to answer anyone, that's his decision. we are also part of creating the mystery around 'thisisalmostit' by discussing the tweets. there wouldn't be no mystery if there wasn't an audience for it as well.
some of the tweets lead to info that wasn't discussed here before, so i don't think that this forum is the source of information. i'd rather think that #elvisandmjdotcom did create some attention in the right places, so i look at it in a positive manner.
i wouldn't take it all too serious, really. i look at these tweets as interesting and informative entertainment.
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well said TB. I agree with all you said.
*hi-five*
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Sorry but some of you guys are gulible to believe an anonymous person. Ts doesnt no nothing! He's just a believer just like me, and he doesnt know nothing. I don understand why people follow him because he tweets a whole of bounch of cliches
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@Tabloidburn, I agree with everything you have said and I really like how you have expressed yourself :D . I don't believe that it is important who is behind this account and where they get their info from. As you say, they have tweeted things that have led to some good research and discussion. This has led to some valuable knowledge and new ideas. There are a lot of things changing in our world, new ways of thinking and new ways of approaching life on many levels. Whoever thisisalmostit is, they are very spiritually and consciously aware and this, for me is far more important than who they are.
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Sorry but some of you guys are gulible to believe an anonymous person. Ts doesnt no nothing! He's just a believer just like me, and he doesnt know nothing. I don understand why people follow him because he tweets a whole of bounch of cliches
thisisalmostit never claimed to be TS.
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Sorry but some of you guys are gulible to believe an anonymous person. Ts doesnt no nothing! He's just a believer just like me, and he doesnt know nothing. I don understand why people follow him because he tweets a whole of bounch of cliches
thisisalmostit never claimed to be TS.
So who is TS im confused :lol:
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i'm not so sure if the tweets regarding #elvisandmjdotcom prove anything in terms of 'thisisalmostit' not knowing anything. does he need to? and then knowing what exactly? did anyone actually expect some 'insider knowledge' from this tweeter? as if anyone would publish any details that way? i don't think so. even if anyone on the net knows anything, nobody would jeopardize this adventure and give it away in any fashion. nobody else but mike says 'go', if this whole thing should be working as planned.
fact remains that some of the links were very unusual and also very insightful, much more like others.
fact also remains that none of us knows who this is, if this person has any relation to mike, the hoax or not. even if it's 'just one of us' i don't see anything wrong or bad with it. still an interesting follow.
i'm pretty sure 'thisisalmostit' at least knows about this forum, which only shows that this is a serious place to be, hoaxwise. keep michaeling...
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Sorry - but most of us aren't here for games. And I think you being a mod would need to say what you just did. However, just because someone is unusual and insightful doesn't mean they should be followed or even believed. And, yes, in my opinion, if he's going to play cat and mouse with us he sure as heck had better know something of value. I highly doubt this person is anyone other than someone connected to this site. Like I said before - please prove me wrong if you must and I don't fault anyone for wanting to continue to read the words he/she writes. For me I have more important things to do. Maybe I'll spend my time researching what good causes I can support. I think Michael would be more about that. Yes, I'll still be around. Blessings to you all.
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Sorry but some of you guys are gulible to believe an anonymous person. Ts doesnt no nothing! He's just a believer just like me, and he doesnt know nothing. I don understand why people follow him because he tweets a whole of bounch of cliches
thisisalmostit never claimed to be TS.
So who is TS im confused :lol:
TS is here,a members of the forum,true,but he was here since the beginning with an other name S.T.U.D.Y(on the old forum)
He gives us a lot of information on the hoax..he manages http://www.thisisalsoit.cm and he has redirected us on many clues in this hoax..he makes the situation more comprehensible and he is very effective !you should read all the topics about it ..you will be surprised!
Thisisalmostit,on twitter gives us informations too,follow him is very interesting !i think his tweet means something ..i don't think he play with us..i don't know why but i have to say :)
We don't know who are they,yes,but we can't certify they are simple believers like us,we can't certify they are Michael..but they said interested thing until today !
just my opinion.. :D
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Hello,
I have been reading people's recent responses about the thisisalmostit tweeter and see many are getting upset now and are not going to believe in the info leading to discovery and clues. I had to go pull my post comment from the DaveDave is a liar thread so I could give this to you all to read and check out the link on the beatles and paul hoax..
Alot of info there in that article to tell us how to find clues.
FROM MY POST ON DaveDave is a liar thread:
There was alot of statements made by Dave and clues given in this interview that kicked off the actual hint that THIS is a "hoax".
One was referencing to Paul Mc Cartney.
After the tweeter came online named thisisalmostit he or she gave a clue tweet about
Did Paul die at 09-11-'66 ?
1:21 PM May 3rd via web
I found this on May 4th, my bad I am late to reveal. OOPS sorry.
http://www.beatle.net/articles/paulhoax.html (http://www.beatle.net/articles/paulhoax.html)
Have fun reading.
Peace
I couldn't help myself... I went back to the article again to re read it, the statement below is from that article when the Paul "hoax" happened, sound familiar?
'Wow, that's an incredible idea!' We realized it would be great fun to have all those clues sitting there undiscovered until people started going nuts looking for them all."
:lol: :lol: 8-)
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Latest tweet ..
thisisalmostit : Amon
Il y a 2 minutes via web
here is the link for wikipédia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amun
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interesting ..
"As the Egyptians considered themselves oppressed during the period of the Hyksos rule, the victory accomplished by pharaohs worshiping Amun was seen as a champion of the less fortunate. Consequently, Amun was viewed as upholding the rights of justice for the poor.[1] By aiding those who traveled in his name, he became the Protector of the road. Since he upheld Ma'at (truth, justice, and goodness) ,[1] those who prayed to Amun were required, first, to demonstrate that they were worthy by confessing their sins. Votive stela from the artisans village at Deir el-Medina record:
[Amun] who comes at the voice of the poor in distress, who gives breath to him who is wretched..You are Amun, the Lord of the silent, who comes at the voice of the poor; when I call to you in my distress You come and rescue me...Though the servant was disposed to do evil, the Lord is disposed to forgive. The Lord of Thebes spends not a whole day in anger; His wrath passes in a moment; none remains. His breath comes back to us in mercy..May your ka be kind; may you forgive; It shall not happen again."
"Amun represented the essential and hidden.."
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There is also Amon in the old testament of the Bible. the name Amon means faithful . He was a governor in the time of Ahab who was charged to keep Micaiah till the king should return from the seige. Another Amon was the 15th King of Judah who succeeded his father Manasseh at the age of 22. He reigned 2 years.
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This is odd:
Today Michael Kiss posted a pic of Harsaphes.
http://twitter.com/Michaelkiss
I wrote to him:
@Michaelkiss Why the pic of Harsaphes?After the end of the Old Kingdom,Harsaphes was identified with Osiris...any meaning?
This is it: I am decleared to have lost my last screw
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i'm not so sure if the tweets regarding #elvisandmjdotcom prove anything in terms of 'thisisalmostit' not knowing anything. does he need to? and then knowing what exactly? did anyone actually expect some 'insider knowledge' from this tweeter? as if anyone would publish any details that way? i don't think so. even if anyone on the net knows anything, nobody would jeopardize this adventure and give it away in any fashion. nobody else but mike says 'go', if this whole thing should be working as planned.
fact remains that some of the links were very unusual and also very insightful, much more like others.
fact also remains that none of us knows who this is, if this person has any relation to mike, the hoax or not. even if it's 'just one of us' i don't see anything wrong or bad with it. still an interesting follow.
i'm pretty sure 'thisisalmostit' at least knows about this forum, which only shows that this is a serious place to be, hoaxwise. keep michaeling...
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Sorry - but most of us aren't here for games. And I think you being a mod would need to say what you just did. However, just because someone is unusual and insightful doesn't mean they should be followed or even believed. And, yes, in my opinion, if he's going to play cat and mouse with us he sure as heck had better know something of value. I highly doubt this person is anyone other than someone connected to this site. Like I said before - please prove me wrong if you must and I don't fault anyone for wanting to continue to read the words he/she writes. For me I have more important things to do. Maybe I'll spend my time researching what good causes I can support. I think Michael would be more about that. Yes, I'll still be around. Blessings to you all.
i'm not saying that this is a game or should be regarded as one. 'being a mod' has nothing to do with my opinion. we don't know who this person is and as long as we don't, we shouldn't speculate too much on that but rather look at the info given, which is interesting, entertaining and also very useful. i don't think it's a waste of time but also that there shouldn't be so much emphasis on it being someone who plays around. if one feels that way, it's up to them to ignore that tweeter. peace...
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Amun literally meaning "hidden", and although it was considered the creator of all things, there are a few stories about him. Despite the loss of their mythological background, came to be of great importance. During the Middle Kingdom, grew up in Thebes (the modern Luxor) cult Centre Amun, where was associated with the rah-rah Sun God and began to be worshiped as Amun-Rá. Eighth dynasty was later favored by the Royal family, and during the tenth, surpassed in importance all the other gods. During this time, was built for him a magnificent temple at Karnak, which remains to this day.
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This is the latest tweet:
Duality stands in the way of unity
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This person has read someone elses research ;) about duality..
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This person has read someone elses research ;) about duality..
I agree..Kind of makes you wonder who this is :?
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This person has read someone elses research ;) about duality..
I agree..Kind of makes you wonder who this is :?
Some one reading this forum :lol:
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
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Home Page http://www.willyhoops.com/plato-trinity-quaternity.htm (http://www.willyhoops.com/plato-trinity-quaternity.htm)
Explaining Plato's Duality, Trinity,
Quaternity, Pentad
October 2009, Updated March 2010
This article is not an extensive resource, rather it is designed to introduce the reader to the concepts briefly, allowing him to subsequently review Plato's material under new light.
Theory Of Forms, The Immortal World & The Mortal World
To begin we need to Plato's "Theory of Forms". The Form is the un-manifested concept, and any realisation of it is a limited flawed reflection which we perceive with our senses or imagination. Consider the concept of a chair compared to a real or imagined chair. The Chair Form is the ideal theoretical concept of a chair which exists only in a rarefied world of pure philosophy, not in the world of physical senses or imagination. Any manifestation of the Chair Form is limited, a reflection, an illusion in a way. Manifestations change, die, grow etc but the Form exists in a timeless world. In Plato's Cave Allegory the prisoners see shadows projected on the wall by things passing in front of a fire behind them, the world of shadows is the mortal world, reality, truth, exists at a deeper level.
A Form is essentially an immortal truth. It is, if one likes, an individual God, below which mortal life exists as an imperfect reflection. However, Plato does not equate it with God itself. God is that first principle which all Forms have in common and from which they derive. God or "The One" is the source, sometimes Plato describes it as The Good or Beauty. The One is far more abstract than The World of Forms. Indeed it is so remote, so simple, our comprehension of is extremely limited, and Plato concentrates for the most part only on the easy to understand Form / Reflection or Immortal / Mortal division.
The idea that the mortal world is a reflection of heavenly truths is key to mysticism. Also, wisdom is the ability to see past the confusion and divine the higher truth which the mortal world so imperfectly approximates. Akin to the expression "He can not see the forest for the trees", the average man is trapped in a web of illusion caused by his inability to penetrate the imperfect nature of mortal experience. In Christianity we have the line "For now we see through a glass, darkly". Detachment is one of the keys to wisdom because in the infinity of detail it is vital not to allow attachment toward any particular Form reflection to trap one. Detachment separates the wise philosopher from the opinion holder. Attachment is a set of tinted sunglasses, only light of a certain colour is passed, every other point falls on deaf ears, the ego is unchallenged, the individual can not grow, he is a prisoner of his inherited opinion, a robot.
In fact the Theory of Forms is just one take on the most fundamental question of metaphysics: We clearly inhabit two worlds, the material world of sense perception, and an inner world of thoughts and ideas, what is the nature of them? By the sixth century BC the idea of two worlds is so firmly implanted in human consciousness that every major philosopher or prophet of the time, from Buddha to Zarathustra, espoused it. Even modern philosophy begins with an analysis of this duality. Descartes described thinking substance and matter but broke with the mysticism of Plato who claimed the superiority of the Form. Spinoza, Locke, Berkley, Hume, Kant, Schopenhauer, Hegel all worked on the problem.
Neo-Platonist descriptions of the mystical connection between the Immortal and the Mortal world include "As Above, So Below", "As Within, So Without", "The Microcosm & Macrocosm" etc. The idea of a chair and a Chair Form is an interesting learning tool, but our real interest is in psychological concepts. A Chair Form, a Table Form, A Carpet Form also have us thinking about individuality, but in reality The World Of Form is a continuous sea. Neither does the two layer depth make much sense, above and below more accurately describe the relationship. The interconnectedness of The Immortal, psychology, fate and physical form is a vital feature of the connection principle which Plato frequently employs but does not properly justify. Carl Jung's synchronicity is another description of this principle of interconnectedness. Modern biologists analyse a cat by examining its physical properties, but Plato believed one could also consider it in another way entirely, perhaps as a collection of psychological forces, and he might draw conclusions by considering these forces in other contexts, a manner of thinking today regarded as deeply unscientific and speculative. Nevertheless, to some extent this is the essence of mysticism.
The Duality
Part of the brilliance of the discrete looking Theory of Forms is the construction of a clear duality between the Immortal and the Mortal Worlds. This is, in fact, the Yang / Yin or Male / Female or Active / Passive. Many readers will struggle to make the connection initially, and it is too difficult a subject for this quick article. Suffice it to quote from the commentaries of Proclus on the Timaeus: "The divisions of male and female comprehends in itself all the plenitudes of the divine orders...".
The male/female is not simply limited to human nature, it reflects the very structure of heaven and earth. The male-female nature is a microcosm of the relationship between the Immortal and Mortal. So Plato might have also deduced the duality by considering the male female directly, and we see this in his descriptions of men and boys which echoes the male/female (eg Phaedrus dialogue). Nevertheless, the beauty of the Immortal-Mortal relationship is its simplicity, it is far easier to analyse than the politically controversial and close to home Male-Female human nature.
The male is form, the female is reflection. The male is abstract, the female practical. The male is single minded, the female is down to earth and multi tasking. The male is intellectual, the female is sympathetic. The male is idealistic and challenging, the female is nurturing and emotional. The male is power and reason, the female love and connection. Capitalism is male, socialism female. The male is authoritarian, the female democratic.
The moral code of rationalist philosophers depends on their perspective. The Mortal Moral Perspective is the nurturing love of the mother. Justice is equality, utopia, cohesive. We have today's popular Christian morality. The Immortal Moral Perspective is the competitive father who forces his children to take risks and ranks their achievements. There is no equality nor cohesive utopia. Instead one is born the worm and, by challenge pain and brilliance, one ascends into the eagle capable of feeding on worms. Recall the genetic breeding viewpoint expressed in the Republic which is so offensive to modern Christian morality. For modern humanists (who have abandoned religion because God appears inconsistent with their passive feminine Christian morality) Plato & Nietzsche are evil or 'emotionally damaged'. But the passive viewpoint does not withstand reason. Does God care when humans die in a Tsunami any more than we humans care when we stand on a Cockroach?
Out of the Mortal-Immortal Duality we get the concept of the Trinity and the four elements or Quaternity. The Duality was at the heart of early philosophical systems, but today very few understand it.
The Trinity
The immortal-mortal are opposites, that which they have in common is the intermediate spirit, together the three are called a Trinity. Plato's Republic includes some good descriptions of dualities and intermediates but the concept is made most clear in his Symposium and the extract which follows below is taken from this. The most important duality and trinity is Immortal World - Mortal World example which follows.
In Plato's Symposium Socrates asks Diotima above love: "What then is Love?" I asked; "Is he mortal?" "No." "What then?" "As in the former instance, he is neither mortal nor immortal, but in a mean between the two."... "He is a great spirit and like all spirits he is intermediate between the divine and the mortal... Now these spirits or intermediate powers are many and diverse, and one of them is Love...." "What is the use of him to men?" asks Socrates. "That, Socrates," she replied, "I will attempt to unfold..."... "When a man loves the beautiful, what does he desire?" I answered her "That the beautiful may be his." "Still," she said, "the answer suggests a further question: What is given by the possession of beauty?"... "Happiness," I replied" "Yes," she said, "the happy are made happy by the acquisition of good things. Nor is there any need to ask why a man desires happiness; the answer is already final."... This desire is common to all men... "Why, then," she rejoined, "are not all men, Socrates, said to love, but only some them?"... Poets and Musicians are both artists but we give them different names... Likewise the Love we speak of is deeper than the human word... Beginning with lower arts of love Diptoma asks Socrates: "See you not how all animals, birds, as well as beasts, in their desire of procreation, are in agony... but why should animals have these passionate feelings? Can you tell me why?"... She explains this instinct to procreate is an echo of the desire for personal immortality and is the lowest form of the love which intermediates between the mortal and immortal worlds... Then she begins to describe higher forms of love... sexual desire for a specific body, a body being the reflection of the immortal soul.... for many bodies... love of character instead of body, character being a higher reflection of immortality than body... love of family... love of education... love of achievement... fame... virtue... philosophy...
In the rather condensed extract above we see developed the concept of the famous Immortal-Mortal-Love Trinity. Love, which mediates between the Immortal and Mortal, is a force which allows man to behold the Immortal. In Christianity "Divine Love" is given a prominent place and normally associate with the "Holy Spirit" which intermediates between the Mortal and Immortal. So in Christianity we have the father (immortal), the son (mortal) and the holy spirit (love).
However, love, as we normally comprehend the word, is clearly not the full story. There is another component, which we can perhaps label Reason. Man beholds the world of Form by reason and love. Reason is the +ve and love the -ve.
Nevertheless don't think these are the only two intermediates - "Now these spirits or intermediate powers are many and diverse, and one of them is Love".
Plato lists three arguments against democracy: the urge to power (sea captain with a crew of mutineers), the wild animal trainer who slavishly feeds and works with the bestial nature, and the corrupting influence of recognition and adulation (young man in assembly being clapped). This trinity clearly follows the archetypal pattern.
Plato's Republic also describes how humans be divided into three parts: rational, spirited, and appetitive. The rational is that which loves knowledge and truth. The spirited part is that part within our soul seeks honour. The appetitive part is based on our primal urges such as food and sex. The spirited part is arguably intermediate between +ve reason and -ve appetite. The popular modern expression Mind-Body-Spirit is another example of a classic trinity. It's not a carbon copy of Form-Reflection-Love/Reason, but it is following the active-passive-intermediate concept.
In Taoism we have the trinity Heaven-Earth-Man. Man is the intermediate, Yang is Heaven and Yin Earth. It's not as well thought out as Plato's Immortal-Mortal-Spirit but it's exactly the same concept. One of the nice points about Taoism is the continuous change between Yin and Yang and the blended nature of Mortal life, just as music is a blend of notes, an ever changing harmony and discord.
Of course not every 'trio' fits into the trinity. Consider, for example, the concept of 3 Dimensional space. Unlike Newton's three laws, we clearly have three orthogonal concepts which do not fit this model. Nevertheless the Taoists believed essentially everything could be decomposed into Yin and Yang. I guess that space would be Yin and time Yang. However, the single designation of Yin and Yang is confusing, the relationship depends on the intermediate, so Yin and Yang have flavours. We started by deriving a duality from the Theory of Forms and then postulating Intermediates. It aided our understanding, but in reality we can not conceive of opposites except in a certain sense or intermediate. Really truth or wisdom was inherent in our definition developed earlier. If we changed that to causality we have the Immortal as the cause, the Mortal as the effect and we see the active / passive designation more clearly. In this time-space duality the intermediate is clearly not love nor reason, more likely some aspect of causality.
The Quaternity
The Immortal-Mortal Trinity is a duality of abstract and material combined with an intermediate force or spirit. We can further subdivide the opposites according to the flow of intermediate force between them - a sort of secondary application of cause and effect. Thus we have abstract-incoming, abstract-outgoing, material-incoming, material-outgoing. This divides our two world model into four. We have, in corresponding order, Air, Fire, Water, Earth. These are psychological elements, extensions to our Yin/Yang duality. An example of the quaternity is perhaps as follows: Microsoft must have vision, strategy, personality and execution.
An example: Jung speaks of the male anima, which is the feminine inner personality present in the unconscious of the male, and the female animus, which is the masculine in the female. The anima is feminine-introverted water the animus is masculine-extroverted fire. Men can have an uncomfortable shock realising how earth women are, and women a shock realising how air men are. Why are masculine women stubborn? Their active principle lacks detachment. Why are feminine men moody? Their passive principle lacks practicality.
Plato's symposium contains a complex quaternity in the speeches of Phaedrus, Pausanias, Aristophanes and Eryximachus.
In Kant's four fold reason we have Knowing, Willing, Being, Becoming.
Henri Ellenberger, and perhaps Jung, believed the quaternity was a trinity with a forth attribute added, but I strongly disagree. I arrived at my conclusions by following Plato as carefully as possible, distinguishing between the opposites and the intermediate spirit (in the Symposium and Republic where the trinity is most clearly explained). From this concept of, opposites plus the essence that links them, the two step process naturally flows. The only alternative is Wolfgang Pauli's idea of constructing the quaternity from a pair of trinities. But this idea is not so far from mine - I split by the first essence and then split the two end points by another essence, so in a sense I also have two essential trinities.
One good thing about the idea of repeated subdivision, rather than the Pauli description, is that you can easily imagine continuing the subdivision out past the four to eight, sixteen, etc. Each division is made along the same Yin/Yang like rules. Now we have the idea of a primal trinity dividing out into an infinitely complex web according to a perfect chain of logical subdivisions. This is kind of akin to the idea of Plato's form of the Good being the essence from which all other forms are derived. It gives us some conception of The One being the source from which everything branches.
The four can seem a much more useful concept that the three. It has been said “All things do live in the three / But in the four they merry be”. This makes sense because the three describes the living system, but the four describes the practical state of being.
Love & Reason in More Detail
Confucius: By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
To fully understand this I have to add detail to some of the points made before. I said that between the Mortal and Immortal is the intermediate force which can be subdivided into +ve reason and -ve love. But I was missing a step: Between the Mortal and Immortal is an intermediate I might call Existence which divides into +ve Action and -ve Experience. Action divides (perhaps not immediately) into +ve Reason and -ve Love. Confucius is using the words reflection for reason, imitation for love, and experience makes it a trio if not a normal trinity.
Now I will try to delve into the paths of reason and love in more detail by attempting to divide the intermediate of wisdom according to the quaternity.
Reason-Air: We are talking of an attribute which connects us to God - a characteristic of enlightenment. For this we can examine Plato's descriptions of Socrates in the Symposium and other texts - Socrates is Plato's Christ / Buddha. Socrates is entirely uninterested in wine, sex, wealth etc and lives in purely philosophical world (eg Alcibiades, Symposium). Socrates' thought processes are characterised by such complete detachment that he sees and rejects the limiting nature of all tradition and human values. He is a mystic, but he can not be called religious, at least in the sense of believing in dogma. He is not a rebel who angrily adopts opposite positions, rather he transcends every position and ends in an almost childlike state of no belief. However, it is not a childlike state of non-understanding, he is regarded as the wisest man in Greece. His ability to see the truth, to behold beauty, leaves him in a state of permanent bliss.
Reason-Fire: Socrates does not live a purely contemplative life. Socrates spends a great deal of time in discourse with other people and has developed a system of argument which is designed to impart his detached understanding to others. By argument he reduces the opinions of everyone he meets to absurdity. He is an ugly man physically, although strong and brave, and deeply challenging. He is a teacher, obsessed by his work, whose challenging technique demolishes the ego of his opponents lifting them toward wisdom. Socrates is profoundly idealistic, although for those on the receiving end, attached to cherished belief, he must appear tyrannical. His idealism is detached, he cares little for the present condition or happiness of his subjects, only for their betterment.
Love / Imitation: Although Socrates is the wisest man in Greece he turns to the priestess Diotima to learn of love. "And now, taking my leave of you, I would rehearse a tale of love which I heard from Diotima of Mantineia, a woman wise in this and in many other kinds of knowledge, who in the days of old, when the Athenians offered sacrifice before the coming of the plague, delayed the disease ten years. She was my instructress in the art of love, and I shall repeat to you what she said to me...". Ancient Greece was not known for women's rights, and for Plato to choose a woman to teach Socrates is seminal. Plato does not limit her understanding to love; he makes this much clear here, also in the Republic he argues that women can perform any task, even warfare. Plato's description of Diotima is sadly short and I am still struggling to comprehend the concept. Nevertheless what follows are some ideas:
Love-Water: Diotima, we can be sure, is, as Socrates, similarly uninterested in wine, sex, wealth etc. However, her method of contacting Truth is entirely different. Consider experiencing a bell. Primarily one can see the bell and one can hear the bell. Looking at a beautiful bell brings a sense of contentment, nevertheless hearing the bell brings far more powerful feelings. In a sense, and for want of better words, seeing is primarily logical and hearing primarily experiential. Diotima primarily feels and Socrates primarily reasons. Remember: "First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest". Carl Jung described our goal as self realised freedom achieved by integrating the unconscious. Jung believed in the intrinsic divinity of our higher unconscious, it acts akin to a spiritual guide always working toward the individuals evolution. Jung didn't primarily advocate reasoned transcendence as Plato did, he believed one could connect with the enlightening force in another way, a sort of inspired intuitive state. However, to behold truth this way still requires detachment. To properly hear the bell you have to turn off the wind, the birds and the beating of one's own heart.
Love-Earth: The opposite of Socratic Argument is, of course, the nurturing mother. This loving intermediate has a profoundly idealistic creative side as well, but not to challenge or burn, rather to imbue. Diotima, we can be sure, is not ugly and hard like Socrates, but beautiful and soft. She is not strong and warlike, rather gentle and relaxing. I love the line from Jung, which I would quote if I could find it, which describes the mystical contentment brought by the female that makes bearable the life of pain, struggle and unfulfilled ambition endured by the warrior.
What did Socrates have that stood him apart from all humanity. Both exceptional Reason-Air and exceptional Love-Water. Why was Socrates a more famous philosopher than Diotima? Without Reason-Air Love-Water can be lost in a sea. Also, without a Reason-Air she can not communicate her revelations.
By the way this concept of seeing or feeling is a vital one. Out of it we can derive aesthetics. So we have the feelings evoked in the individual as a result of beholding the synchronistic manifestation, or reflection, of underlying psychological essence, or form. Our appreciation depends on how harmonious the underlying form is with our personality, and the intensity with which the message is conveyed by the manifestation. For example, this is what generally drives our appreciation of man made objects and human bodies. We also have another effect on the individual evoked by the seeing facility which picks up on the divine complexity underlying the technical structure of the manifestation. It is hard for me to describe this, but it is a sense of uplifting wonder and clarity. It is why, for example, a close up of a snow flake is beautiful. It is why people are wrong to describe music as an emotional experience - it includes two experiential strands which we might label the emotional and mental. Some music famous for its mental component includes JS Bach's Harpsichord works.
The Pentad
The Pentad is simply the Quaternity plus the trinity. In other words it is no more complex than the distinction between the Trinity and Duality.
A famous example is Kenneth Burke's act, scene; agent, agency; purpose. The act and scene are 'reflections', and agent and agency are 'forms'. Likewise these subdivide again, eg we have incoming agent, outgoing agency. Our purpose is that which binds the whole picture together - here the motivation between our initial division into our reflected effect and forming cause. It gets confusing because the distinction between the first set of subdivisions and the second set looks so similar even though they are actually orthogonal.
Another famous example is the Maslow Pyramid. body, safety; relationships, success; self actualisation.
Here is one I made up:
Our search for God can be divided into: family, friends, fame, achievement, wisdom.
Notice the Pentad can bring the concept of growth to the Quaternity. In this case the trinity is the goal, and the subdivisions are paths.
:ugeek:
Peace
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
It rhymes...seems like he´s an attentive observer - and also a poet.
i'm pretty sure 'thisisalmostit' at least knows about this forum, which only shows that this is a serious place to be, hoaxwise. keep michaeling...
:mrgreen:
I love serious places, seriously! ;) :P :lol:
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
It rhymes...seems like he´s an attentive observer - and also a poet.
i'm pretty sure 'thisisalmostit' at least knows about this forum, which only shows that this is a serious place to be, hoaxwise. keep michaeling...
:mrgreen:
I love serious places, seriously! ;) :P :lol:
Looks like this is Prince again. These are lyrics that aren't published yet -- can't find them on the net -- because it's from a song (Act of God) that's on an upcoming album. He is performing a bunch of new stuff on his current tour, and I guess this was one of the songs? I've included the link to his fan site: http://prince.org/msg/7/339848?jump=93&pg=4 (http://prince.org/msg/7/339848?jump=93&pg=4). People seem to be trying to figure out the lyrics.
Edit: I just found this -- http://www.youclubvideo.com/audio/11673 ... act-of-god (http://www.youclubvideo.com/audio/116730/prince-act-of-god).
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We know TS said he wasn't involved with the making of TIalmostI, but on the other hand, this writer, follows Prince's lyrics, things Elvis related, Bible verses, Egyptian themes, philosophy, Astronomy, Michael's words and patterns of thinking--all very well just like someone else we all know and love. Personally I think this person has been as bang-on as TIAI. I think he/she is a friend we can trust. My heart's feeling.
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
To believe in God is not the problem. What we humans make of it is the problem. Most wars arise where people defend their religious as the only correct one.
I don't believe in the church as institution. The divine is in all of us, in God's creation, in the unity of all being. It is always the same: it begins and ends with love. And the love shows itself in our deeds.
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
This is from a Prince' song named "Act of God".
The Scriptures have been either falsified or their meaning twisted. Some have gone astray enough to invent new books. I mean by that, that the real teachings from God are not intact nowadays.
Nevertheless there is a specificity with the Quran, the Book and I feel like it's important that I put some words about it here. The Quran is mathematically encoded to avoid falsification and the number 19 is the key. A person named Rashad Khalifa discovered thanks to a computer program that it can be proven that the Quran cannot have been written by a human being but that this is God's Word. For people who are interested http://submission.org/quran/app1.html (http://submission.org/quran/app1.html)
"An intricate mathematical code, far beyond the ability of human intelligence, has been discovered imbedded in the fabric of the scripture. Like an ancient time capsule, it remained hidden until our knowledge grew sophisticated enough to decode its intricacies. This code was deciphered by computers.
The discovery of mathematically coded scripture assures us that the verses, words, letters and all parameters of the original scripture were written down in accordance with an intricate pattern that is clearly superhuman. "
http://submission.org/miracle/history.html (http://submission.org/miracle/history.html)
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31 - The Hidden Secret
[74:35] This is one of the great miracles.
[74:36] A warning to the human race.
The Hidden Secret
Now as human beings always want to distort God's religion by any means possible, instead of falsifying the Quran as it cannot be done or simply believe that it is well God's Book fully detailed, they have killed Rashad Khalifa because his discovery also mentions that only the Quran has to be followed which is still not appreciated in the muslim world. Nowadays muslims continue to believe in books were the supposed sayings of the Prophet Muhammed have been collected which is totally wrong and goes against what God teaches in the Quran. This behaviour has lead the muslim community to alter God's religion.
Finally all the conjectures which are dividing people today (believers, non believers, agnostics etc.) will end with The End of The World which has been calculated thanks to this mathematical code to appear in the year 2280. It stays from now 270 years before the end. I know you will think it's crazy but the end was never meant to be kept secret only those who don't believe will be surprised and I totally believe the Quran to be God's Word.
http://www.submission.org/quran/app25.html (http://www.submission.org/quran/app25.html)
[20:15] "The Hour is surely coming; I will keep it almost hidden, for each soul must be paid for its works.
[20:16] "Do not be diverted therefrom by those who do not believe in it - those who pursue their own opinions - lest you fall.
God says that He will keep the Hour almost hidden. It is explained by the fact that the time of The End is encoded mathematically since several centuries and that it has been discovered only recently thanks to computing technology. This code could not have been discovered without. Jesus date of birth is set as a marker to know the date of The End. He is not going to physically come back as many believe.
"He (Jesus) is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world so that you can no longer harbour any doubt about it" 43:61
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html)
Now you will say what about 2012 ? There are 2 predictions that have to be fulfilled before The End and one of them is called The Smoke by God in the Quran.
[44:10] Therefore, watch for the day when the sky brings a profound smoke.
[44:11] It will envelope the people; this is a painful retribution.
[44:12] "Our Lord, relieve this retribution for us; we are believers."
[44:13] Now that it is too late, they remember! An enlightening messenger had come to them.
[44:14] But they turned away from him, saying, "Well educated, but crazy!"
[44:15] We will relieve the retribution for awhile; you will soon revert.
[44:16] The day we strike the big stroke, we will avenge.
Smoke
This verse clearly shows that before The End a painful retribution will occur. Maybe 2012 is about that retribution...
Edit: I don't know if it's a coincidence but it's my 865th post and 8+6+5 = 19
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
This is from a Prince' song named "Act of God".
The Scriptures have been either falsified or their meaning twisted. Some have gone astray enough to invent new books. I mean by that, that the real teachings from God are not intact nowadays.
Nevertheless there is a specificity with the Quran, the Book and I feel like it's important that I put some words about it here. The Quran is mathematically encoded to avoid falsification and the number 19 is the key. A person named Rashad Khalifa discovered thanks to a computer program that it can be proven that the Quran cannot have been written by a human being but that this is God's Word. For people who are interested http://submission.org/quran/app1.html (http://submission.org/quran/app1.html)
"An intricate mathematical code, far beyond the ability of human intelligence, has been discovered imbedded in the fabric of the scripture. Like an ancient time capsule, it remained hidden until our knowledge grew sophisticated enough to decode its intricacies. This code was deciphered by computers.
The discovery of mathematically coded scripture assures us that the verses, words, letters and all parameters of the original scripture were written down in accordance with an intricate pattern that is clearly superhuman. "
http://submission.org/miracle/history.html (http://submission.org/miracle/history.html)
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31 - The Hidden Secret
[74:35] This is one of the great miracles.
[74:36] A warning to the human race.
The Hidden Secret
Now as human beings always want to distort God's religion by any means possible, instead of falsifying the Quran as it cannot be done or simply believe that it is well God's Book fully detailed, they have killed Rashad Khalifa because his discovery also mentions that only the Quran has to be followed which is still not appreciated in the muslim world. Nowadays muslims continue to believe in books were the supposed sayings of the Prophet Muhammed have been collected which is totally wrong and goes against what God teaches in the Quran. This behaviour has lead the muslim community to alter God's religion.
Finally all the conjectures which are dividing people today (believers, non believers, agnostics etc.) will end with The End of The World which has been calculated thanks to this mathematical code to appear in the year 2280. It stays from now 270 years before the end. I know you will think it's crazy but the end was never meant to be kept secret only those who don't believe will be surprised and I totally believe the Quran to be God's Word.
http://www.submission.org/quran/app25.html (http://www.submission.org/quran/app25.html)
[20:15] "The Hour is surely coming; I will keep it almost hidden, for each soul must be paid for its works.
[20:16] "Do not be diverted therefrom by those who do not believe in it - those who pursue their own opinions - lest you fall.
God says that He will keep the Hour almost hidden. It is explained by the fact that the time of The End is encoded mathematically since several centuries and that it has been discovered only recently thanks to computing technology. This code could not have been discovered without. Jesus date of birth is set as a marker to know the date of The End. He is not going to physically come back as many believe.
"He (Jesus) is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world so that you can no longer harbour any doubt about it" 43:61
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html)
Now you will say what about 2012 ? There are 2 predictions that have to be fulfilled before The End and one of them is called The Smoke by God in the Quran.
[44:10] Therefore, watch for the day when the sky brings a profound smoke.
[44:11] It will envelope the people; this is a painful retribution.
[44:12] "Our Lord, relieve this retribution for us; we are believers."
[44:13] Now that it is too late, they remember! An enlightening messenger had come to them.
[44:14] But they turned away from him, saying, "Well educated, but crazy!"
[44:15] We will relieve the retribution for awhile; you will soon revert.
[44:16] The day we strike the big stroke, we will avenge.
Smoke
This verse clearly shows that before The End a painful retribution will occur. Maybe 2012 is about that retribution...
Edit: I don't know if it's a coincidence but it's my 865th post and 8+6+5 = 19
@Sarahli,
Thank you for this information. I appreciate your effort to bring "awareness." I also appreciate viewing info of other "beliefs." When I read what you have posted I see it is written different yet is similiar and runs parallel in what is written in The Bible.
I would have to come to the conclusion that it's going to lead to the same place just different paths.
This is my interpretation and opinion on how I read this statement.
(see below)
"An intricate mathematical code, far beyond the ability of human intelligence, has been discovered imbedded in the fabric of the scripture. Like an ancient time capsule, it remained hidden until our knowledge grew sophisticated enough to decode its intricacies. This code was deciphered by computers.
IMO:
The funny thing for me when I read that the person says that the computer was "the only way for the numbers to be decoded" because no human could, I lol because originally the human was the one who would have made the "computer" and "program" to figure out and decode the info, so the creator of the "software" and "program" was from a human mind capable of super intelligence, the reason for a computer doing the work is speed.
The human mind and the human intelligence is capable of that "super human genius." I believe the inventions, ideas, and yes the idea for the computer program came from God himself and God utilized and manifested his idea through a human and computer program.
Think channelling.
I want to give this link to those who are interested in reading parellels of Jesus and Michael, I feel Username "Mjonmind" doesn't get enough credit for her insight and hard work in contributions of very important and very relevant info.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12256&start=0 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12256&start=0)
In comparing what you posted on "The warning of End Times" in The Quran and to The Sermon on the mount speech given By Jesus to his disciples I would say they are similiar just written different.
Below is the comparisons:
"He (Jesus) is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world so that you can no longer harbour any doubt about it" 43:61
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html)
Now you will say what about 2012 ? There are 2 predictions that have to be fulfilled before The End and one of them is called The Smoke by God in the Quran.
Therefore, watch for the day when the sky brings a profound smoke. (Quran)
It will envelope the people; this is a painful retribution. (Quran)
9Then they will hand you over to suffer affliction and tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake (Bible) Jesus Sermon
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not shed its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Bible) Jesus sermon
"Our Lord, relieve this retribution for us; we are believers." (Quran)
31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect (His chosen ones) from the four winds, [even] from one end of the universe to the other.(Bible) Jesus Sermon
Now that it is too late, they remember! An enlightening messenger had come to them.(Quran)
But they turned away from him, saying, "Well educated, but crazy!" (Quran)
10And then many will be offended and repelled and will begin to distrust and desert [Him Whom they ought to trust and obey] and will stumble and fall away and betray one another and pursue one another with hatred. (Bible) Jesus Sermon..
One more comparision, This is exactly what is happening, Michael is well educated and warning us and has been warning us and gee um I do believe he has been called crazy, lol...sorry Mike, so have I.
We will relieve the retribution for awhile; you will soon revert. (Quran)
The day we strike the big stroke, we will avenge. (Quran)Smoke
21For then there will be great tribulation (affliction, distress, and oppression) such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now--no, and never will be [again].
22And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would endure and survive, but for the sake of the elect (God's chosen ones) those days will be shortened.(Bible) Jesus Sermon
So in doing a comparison I see similarities.
Peace
:ugeek:
LOL I had to fix the link redirect, ;)
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This is odd:
Today Michael Kiss posted a pic of Harsaphes.
http://twitter.com/Michaelkiss
I wrote to him:
@Michaelkiss Why the pic of Harsaphes?After the end of the Old Kingdom,Harsaphes was identified with Osiris...any meaning?
This is it: I am decleared to have lost my last screw
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i swear i think if i didn't come here for the hoax i'd still come for the comic relief :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
This is from a Prince' song named "Act of God".
The Scriptures have been either falsified or their meaning twisted. Some have gone astray enough to invent new books. I mean by that, that the real teachings from God are not intact nowadays.
Nevertheless there is a specificity with the Quran, the Book and I feel like it's important that I put some words about it here. The Quran is mathematically encoded to avoid falsification and the number 19 is the key. A person named Rashad Khalifa discovered thanks to a computer program that it can be proven that the Quran cannot have been written by a human being but that this is God's Word. For people who are interested http://submission.org/quran/app1.html (http://submission.org/quran/app1.html)
"An intricate mathematical code, far beyond the ability of human intelligence, has been discovered imbedded in the fabric of the scripture. Like an ancient time capsule, it remained hidden until our knowledge grew sophisticated enough to decode its intricacies. This code was deciphered by computers.
The discovery of mathematically coded scripture assures us that the verses, words, letters and all parameters of the original scripture were written down in accordance with an intricate pattern that is clearly superhuman. "
http://submission.org/miracle/history.html (http://submission.org/miracle/history.html)
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31 - The Hidden Secret
[74:35] This is one of the great miracles.
[74:36] A warning to the human race.
The Hidden Secret
Now as human beings always want to distort God's religion by any means possible, instead of falsifying the Quran as it cannot be done or simply believe that it is well God's Book fully detailed, they have killed Rashad Khalifa because his discovery also mentions that only the Quran has to be followed which is still not appreciated in the muslim world. Nowadays muslims continue to believe in books were the supposed sayings of the Prophet Muhammed have been collected which is totally wrong and goes against what God teaches in the Quran. This behaviour has lead the muslim community to alter God's religion.
Finally all the conjectures which are dividing people today (believers, non believers, agnostics etc.) will end with The End of The World which has been calculated thanks to this mathematical code to appear in the year 2280. It stays from now 270 years before the end. I know you will think it's crazy but the end was never meant to be kept secret only those who don't believe will be surprised and I totally believe the Quran to be God's Word.
http://www.submission.org/quran/app25.html (http://www.submission.org/quran/app25.html)
[20:15] "The Hour is surely coming; I will keep it almost hidden, for each soul must be paid for its works.
[20:16] "Do not be diverted therefrom by those who do not believe in it - those who pursue their own opinions - lest you fall.
God says that He will keep the Hour almost hidden. It is explained by the fact that the time of The End is encoded mathematically since several centuries and that it has been discovered only recently thanks to computing technology. This code could not have been discovered without. Jesus date of birth is set as a marker to know the date of The End. He is not going to physically come back as many believe.
"He (Jesus) is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world so that you can no longer harbour any doubt about it" 43:61
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html)
Now you will say what about 2012 ? There are 2 predictions that have to be fulfilled before The End and one of them is called The Smoke by God in the Quran.
[44:10] Therefore, watch for the day when the sky brings a profound smoke.
[44:11] It will envelope the people; this is a painful retribution.
[44:12] "Our Lord, relieve this retribution for us; we are believers."
[44:13] Now that it is too late, they remember! An enlightening messenger had come to them.
[44:14] But they turned away from him, saying, "Well educated, but crazy!"
[44:15] We will relieve the retribution for awhile; you will soon revert.
[44:16] The day we strike the big stroke, we will avenge.
Smoke
This verse clearly shows that before The End a painful retribution will occur. Maybe 2012 is about that retribution...
Edit: I don't know if it's a coincidence but it's my 865th post and 8+6+5 = 19
@Sarahli,
Thank you for this information. I appreciate your effort to bring "awareness." I also appreciate viewing info of other "beliefs." When I read what you have posted I see it is written different yet is similiar and runs parallel in what is written in The Bible.
I would have to come to the conclusion that it's going to lead to the same place just different paths.
This is my interpretation and opinion on how I read this statement.
(see below)
"An intricate mathematical code, far beyond the ability of human intelligence, has been discovered imbedded in the fabric of the scripture. Like an ancient time capsule, it remained hidden until our knowledge grew sophisticated enough to decode its intricacies. This code was deciphered by computers.
IMO:
The funny thing for me when I read that the person says that the computer was "the only way for the numbers to be decoded" because no human could, I lol because originally the human was the one who would have made the "computer" and "program" to figure out and decode the info, so the creator of the "software" and "program" was from a human mind capable of super intelligence, the reason for a computer doing the work is speed.
The human mind and the human intelligence is capable of that "super human genius." I believe the inventions, ideas, and yes the idea for the computer program came from God himself and God utilized and manifested his idea through a human and computer program.
Think channelling.
I want to give this link to those who are interested in reading parellels of Jesus and Michael, I feel Username "Mjonmind" doesn't get enough credit for her insight and hard work in contributions of very important and very relevant info.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12256&start=0 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12256&start=0)
In comparing what you posted on "The warning of End Times" in The Quran and to The Sermon on the mount speech given By Jesus to his disciples I would say they are similiar just written different.
Below is the comparisons:
"He (Jesus) is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world so that you can no longer harbour any doubt about it" 43:61
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura43.html)
Now you will say what about 2012 ? There are 2 predictions that have to be fulfilled before The End and one of them is called The Smoke by God in the Quran.
Therefore, watch for the day when the sky brings a profound smoke. (Quran)
It will envelope the people; this is a painful retribution. (Quran)
9Then they will hand you over to suffer affliction and tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake (Bible) Jesus Sermon
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not shed its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Bible) Jesus sermon
"Our Lord, relieve this retribution for us; we are believers." (Quran)
31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect (His chosen ones) from the four winds, [even] from one end of the universe to the other.(Bible) Jesus Sermon
Now that it is too late, they remember! An enlightening messenger had come to them.(Quran)
But they turned away from him, saying, "Well educated, but crazy!" (Quran)
10And then many will be offended and repelled and will begin to distrust and desert [Him Whom they ought to trust and obey] and will stumble and fall away and betray one another and pursue one another with hatred. (Bible) Jesus Sermon..
One more comparision, This is exactly what is happening, Michael is well educated and warning us and has been warning us and gee um I do believe he has been called crazy, lol...sorry Mike, so have I.
We will relieve the retribution for awhile; you will soon revert. (Quran)
The day we strike the big stroke, we will avenge. (Quran)Smoke
21For then there will be great tribulation (affliction, distress, and oppression) such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now--no, and never will be [again].
22And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would endure and survive, but for the sake of the elect (God's chosen ones) those days will be shortened.(Bible) Jesus Sermon
So in doing a comparison I see similarities.
Peace
:ugeek:
LOL I had to fix the link redirect, ;)
Indeed I see the similarities. God's message has always been the same in reality. This is what should unite people. Different "paths" but same God to me. I really feel in my heart that we're all brothers and sisters.
Regarding the decoding of the mathematical code we had to wait until the computer was created to be able to decode it. In the times of the Prophets it was not possible just because the technology was not there. It doesn't give less credit to the miracle because computer has been created by man. You really have to keep in mind that the Quran has been revealed in times where there was no computers, no technology which clearly shows (the code) that this is God's word, that a human mind (even today) couldn't have written such a book and this proves that it has been protected throughout the centuries. To fully understand what I say it is really necessary to understand what the mathematical code is about.
Now everything we create, as the computer for example, is thanks to God without Him there is nothing. Discoveries come in due time and for a purpose. God's power encompass everything.
Now everybody's free to believe it or not. As God says, in the end of times the truth will be revealed and everybody will see it with clarity.
God bless you.
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There is only an only true, creator of all things, who is absolute in power, authority and governs the universe with perfect order. The divine truth is resonating from ancient times to enlighten the minds and hearts of the humans of the only true God.
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latest tweet
Last time I checked, you were sleeping
This fairly recent Prince interview is interesting and he speaks about why he was compelled him to write Dreamer:
[youtube:1o3vjcvd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGUqXRXPts[/youtube:1o3vjcvd]
I Think More people should pay closer attention to what Prince is saying, he is doing so for a reason.
Especially his Rainbow Children Album.
Every title of his songs on that list is relevant and current in relation to this "hoax", even the symbolism on his album cover is very relevant.
Including the lyrics.
I do believe Prince to be a "messenger" or some may accept the term Prophet, I do believe Prince receives visions from God and tells us through his music and has been for a very long time, even now... are we listening?
Peace
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New tweet:
Revelation 2010
I would say very Relevant...
Might wanna start paying more attention to what The Purple One is saying. ;)
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/thatsr ... net-cries/ (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/thatsreallyweek/100156/july-5-11-this-is-what-it-sounds-like-when-the-internet-cries/)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/201 ... 5-22385428 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/07/08/prince-20ten-hear-three-tracks-from-the-new-prince-album-in-new-radio-commercial-115875-22385428)
Titles and lyrics explain ALOT.
Peace
Ooops had the wrong link at first but still interesting, lol
http://www.mirror.co.uk?bcpid=187311640 ... 8845108001 (http://www.mirror.co.uk?bcpid=18731164001&bctid=108845108001)
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This is the newest tweet
EDIT VID WAS REMOVED....WHAT?
Really interesting. Interview with Prince about Michael
"Eventually everyone's got to come home"
Yes, and we may just wanna CHILL out a lil and LISTEN to what Michael has to say.
This interview was in 2001.….
Something to THINK about.
Thessalonians 5:19-22 (Amplified Bible)
19Do not quench (suppress or subdue) the [Holy] Spirit;
20Do not spurn the gifts and utterances of the prophets [do not depreciate prophetic revelations nor despise inspired instruction or exhortation or warning].
21But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast.
22Abstain from evil [shrink from it and keep aloof from it] in whatever form or whatever kind it may be.
Digital Garden
Love, like a rose in bloom
And all of the Rainbow Children would feel it soon
2 the east, word traveled about this energy
Until it reached the Banished Ones
Who just wanted this love 2 cease
They now fallen into (Love, like a rose in bloom)
Resistor's dream
And they built a Digital Garden
(And all of the Rainbow Children would feel it soon)
Or so it seemed
In its brilliant darkness
So-called angels of light
Lies
And all the Rainbow Children will stand and fight
4 everlasting, everlasting life
4 the one who sits on the right
4 Him we're willing 2 do the work
"The Banished Ones approaching the palace shouted obscenities.
They tried 2 confuse the Rainbow Children and dethrone their king.
Using the lies promoted by the whosepapers, hellavisions, and scagazines,
The Banished Ones constructed a Digital Garden around the palace
That extended throughout the world.
Furthermore, they demanded compensation 4 their time
spent in the palace before the exile.
This was noise! (Fire, fire!)
"'So be it', said the Wise One,
And gladly obliged with an invisible deed.
The Banished Ones accepted it
and returned 2 their place of birth in Menda City.
As 4 the Rainbow Children, they began deconstructing the Digital Garden.
Door 2 door they went in search of those willing 2 do The Work".
© 2001 Controversy Music - ASCAP
here's the latest:
L.o.v.e., like a rose in bloom and all of the Rainbow Children would feel it soon.
hmmmm :?: what is that supposed to mean..?
[youtube:bq7d3943]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1fXL3s7bk[/youtube:bq7d3943]
Regarding the concept of "RAINBOW CHILDREN"
Dig deeper.
:geek:
The "NEW RAINBOW CHILDREN"
[youtube:bq7d3943]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1VoxHSNzog[/youtube:bq7d3943]
Dig and find out WHAT the RAINBOW means to God and his chosen people.
Peace
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"Rainbow Children" – 10:03
"Muse 2 the Pharaoh" – 4:21
"Digital Garden" – 4:07
"The Work, pt. 1" – 4:28<<<<<<<<<<<< I think we are Right about here, lol slowly and surely getting there.
"Everywhere" – 2:55
"The Sensual Everafter" – 2:58
"Mellow" – 4:24
"1+1+1 is 3" – 5:17
"Deconstruction" – 2:00
"Wedding Feast" – 0:54
"She Loves Me 4 Me" – 2:49
"Family Name" – 8:17
"The Everlasting Now" – 8:18
"Last December" – 7:58
The Work, Pt. 1
Ow!
Break...
(Willing 2 do the work)
Every time I watch the other people news
I see a false picture of myself, another one of U (Yeah)
They try 2 tell us what we want, what 2 believe (Mirror)
Didn't that happen in the Garden when somebody spoke to Eve?
But I'm willing, now - willing 2 do the work
Said I'm willing 2 do what I gotta do
I'm willing - willing 2 do the work
Tell me, tell me, now - say what about U?
Looky, looky now
Look around and tell me (tell me) your sun is risen
When your brothers and sisters are in the fall (Fall)
People, tell me what is left 2 give (nothin') when our work is done?
What do we own besides the right 2 crawl?
See, we're living in a system that the devil designed (Think we ain't?)
And suffering from this devil's most heinous crime
He's tried 2 keep us from, listen, (go tell it) the reason that we were born
That is 2 be the living truth in human form
But U see I'm willing - willing 2 do the work
And 2 do - do what I gotta do
People I'm willing - willing 2 do the work
Tell me now, tell me now, tell me now - what about U? (Tell 'em about it, oh!)
Willing 2 do the work
(Are U willing?)
(Are U willing now?)
This work, this work is not an easy task
But this is the work we must do 4 Revelation 2 come 2 pass
This work, this work is the kind that turns your back on the ruling class (Work it)
By putting them in they place just like the past, look out
Willing - willing 2 do the work
Nothing can stop us
Whatever's in our way
We got 2 go through it 2 get 2 it
I heard somebody say
That they're willing (oh yeah) - willing 2 do the work
Willing 2 do what I gotta do
People tell me, I'm willing - willing 2 do the work (Yeah)
Can't hear ya - what about U? (Turn around)
Willing 2 do, willing 2 do the work
Thank U
"From all over the people came 2 do The Work.
And with every phase of the deconstruction
the Everlasting Now became evermore the reality.
Everywhere the people were witnessing a change
But the alchemy occurred most in the muse".
Peace
:ugeek:
I might have to figure out how to do a blog, lol... there is so much more to "connect the tweets"... ;)
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Latest tweet:
"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same. Everybody's god got a different name. The day that it's over is the end of the game".
It rhymes...seems like he´s an attentive observer - and also a poet.
Looks like this is Prince again. These are lyrics that aren't published yet -- can't find them on the net -- because it's from a song (Act of God) that's on an upcoming album. He is performing a bunch of new stuff on his current tour, and I guess this was one of the songs? I've included the link to his fan site: http://prince.org/msg/7/339848?jump=93&pg=4 (http://prince.org/msg/7/339848?jump=93&pg=4). People seem to be trying to figure out the lyrics.
Edit: I just found this -- http://www.youclubvideo.com/audio/11673 ... act-of-god (http://www.youclubvideo.com/audio/116730/prince-act-of-god).
Thank you for posting, I really like this song and especially the lyrics. The first lines alone - genuine!***
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
you know what is actually funny about this story? many people blame Eve for the whole fruit thingy... but if you read the scripture carefully, when God told Adam not to eat from the tree, Eve was not even created yet. And the book never states whether or not Adam warned her about the tree as well... So when that lil deceptive snake (LOL) came along, Eve may have had no idea that she was being told to do something bad... :ugeek:
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teerockjelli, You are right, and women are the sinners (Eva) and the prostitute (Maria Magdalena)
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
you know what is actually funny about this story? many people blame Eve for the whole fruit thingy... but if you read the scripture carefully, when God told Adam not to eat from the tree, Eve was not even created yet. And the book never states whether or not Adam warned her about the tree as well... So when that lil deceptive snake (LOL) came along, Eve may have had no idea that she was being told to do something bad... :ugeek:
This is one of the examples showing how scriptures are misread and their true meaning twisted by men. Every soul is responsible for her acts. A soul cannot be judged or punished for the sins of another. God is all about Justice. Adam and Eve are both responsible that's why they have been chased away from heaven.
[2:35] We said, "O Adam, live with your wife in Paradise, and eat therefrom generously, as you please, but do not approach this tree, lest you sin."
[2:36] But the devil duped them, and caused their eviction therefrom. We said, "Go down as enemies of one another. On Earth shall be your habitation and provision for awhile."
What people have to know is that we are also responsible of being here. It's not Adam's fault or Eve's fault. We're all guilty. If we are here on earth it's because we have not claimed our faith in God's power when in heaven, because the Devil made us believe that he could be a god besides God.
Of course we don't remember what happened otherwise we couldn't be tested. In reality we are being tested without our full knowledge because that event has been erased from our memories. But God is all merciful and chose among us messengers and Prophets gave them wisdom and scriptures to guide us in the right path.
Faith is innate in us but we still have the choice to believe in God or not. This is a test.
"Say, "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the lord of all things ? NO SOUL BENEFITS EXCEPT FROM ITS OWN WORKS, AND NONE BEARS THE BURDEN OF ANOTHER. Ultimately, you return to your Lord, then He informs you regarding all your disputes." Quran 6:164
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
you know what is actually funny about this story? many people blame Eve for the whole fruit thingy... but if you read the scripture carefully, when God told Adam not to eat from the tree, Eve was not even created yet. And the book never states whether or not Adam warned her about the tree as well... So when that lil deceptive snake (LOL) came along, Eve may have had no idea that she was being told to do something bad... :ugeek:
This is one of the examples showing how scriptures are misread and their true meaning twisted by men. Every soul is responsible for her acts. A soul cannot be judged or retributed for the sins of another. God is all about Justice. Adam and Eve are both responsible that's why they have been chased away from heaven.
[2:35] We said, "O Adam, live with your wife in Paradise, and eat therefrom generously, as you please, but do not approach this tree, lest you sin."
[2:36] But the devil duped them, and caused their eviction therefrom. We said, "Go down as enemies of one another. On Earth shall be your habitation and provision for awhile."
What people have to know is that we are also responsible of being here. It's not Adam's fault or Eve's fault. We're all guilty. If we are here on earth it's because we have not claimed our faith in God's power when in heaven, because the Devil made us believe that he could be a god besides God.
Of course we don't remember what happened otherwise we couldn't be tested. In reality we are being tested without our full knowledge because that event has been erased from our memories. But God is all merciful and chose among us messengers and Prophets gave them wisdom and scriptures to guide us in the right path.
Faith is innate in us but we still have the choice to believe in God or not. This is a test.
"Say, "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the lord of all things ? NO SOUL BENEFITS EXCEPT FROM ITS OWN WORKS, AND NONE BEARS THE BURDEN OF ANOTHER. Ultimately, you return to your Lord, then He informs you regarding all your disputes." Quran 6:164
what are those 2:35 # that you quote? I do not see that anywhwere-
I think before Adam and Eve ate from the tree they were equal to the gods/angels... who knows how long they were in the garden before eating from the tree anyway? in the creation of the world story, God always looked over what he made and made sure it "was good" IMO I think he knew Adam & Eve "was good" (enough to begin to be "fruitful" :lol: :lol: LOL and multiply)... And if they didn't start the procreation process, would it still be only the first 2 walking around and never dying? The story is kinda funny to me because you would expect Adam to be like "woman! I told you God said not to eat from that tree! now we have to pray for forgiveness" but instead he was like "how in the world did you get so smart? give me some of that fruit woman, I run things around here!!" LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know, I am so unconventional 8-)
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@ teerockjelli, I'm quoting the Quran. I should have precised, sorry.
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New tweet:
"The first duty of love is to listen".
Quote by Paul Johannes Tillich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tillich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tillich))
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" The respect is the love dressed in civilian
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New tweet
the golden egg
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New tweet
the golden egg
THE GOLDEN EGG most relevant result in english gematria: King of Pop :shock:
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Story
"A man and his wife had the good fortune to possess a goose which laid a golden egg every day. Lucky though they were, they soon began to think they were not getting rich fast enough, and, imagining the bird must be made of gold inside, they decided to kill it. Then, they thought, they could obtain the whole store of precious metal at once; however, upon cutting the goose open, they found its innards to be like that of any other goose."
Morals
* Greed destroys the source of good.
* Think before you act.
* Those who want too much lose everything.
The moral of wanting more and losing everything is similar to that of another Aesop fable called The Dog and the Bone. In the English language, "Killing the golden goose" has become a metaphor for any short-sighted action that may bring an immediate reward, but will ultimately prove disastrous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goose_That_Laid_the_Golden_Eggs
Or
Golden egg technique
When you purify your centre, you become receptive to higher vibrations. Creativity happens in this space.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/spirituality/speaking-tree/Golden-egg-technique/articleshow/6046444.cms
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New:
'The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?'
And i found this:
The Tree of Life vs. The Tree of Knowledge
Why didn't the Devil deceive Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Life also? And why was the Tree of Life in the garden at all? I was trying to understand why in a garden where food was abundant the two trees of greatest importance to their well-being were there for them, and no warning was given to them about the Devil and his lies. Yet they only ate from the Tree of Knowledge. It would seem they were not even interested in the Tree of Life. They could have eaten of the Tree of Life first and then the tree of knowledge. After they sinned then God thought about barring the way to the Tree of Life, why then? and why not before?
you know what is actually funny about this story? many people blame Eve for the whole fruit thingy... but if you read the scripture carefully, when God told Adam not to eat from the tree, Eve was not even created yet. And the book never states whether or not Adam warned her about the tree as well... So when that lil deceptive snake (LOL) came along, Eve may have had no idea that she was being told to do something bad... :ugeek:
Funny...something ELSE we NEVER "get" about this scripture, without study, is that not only did the Man fail to guard the Garden and protect his Woman, but Scripture says, she gave to her husband WHO WAS WITH HER--RIGHT THERE, watching closely :o :o to see if God was telling the truth, after all, and that she WOULD, in fact, DIE.
Coward.
My thoughts are that he was just gutless, lazy, and rebellious enough to think he could outsmart GOD..., but he wanted to test the death/danger part on the best thing that ever happened to him ("he who finds a wife..." ;) 8-) ) his hot SOULMATE as the first guinea pig, in the very first scientific experiment!!
This tells me something important:
:arrow: the first Man was ALREADY brewing sin in his heart, contemplating partaking of the forbidden "fruit", AND he was brewing additional evil by discounting the value of God's best gift to him--a gift which, once, caused him to exclaim ENTHUSIASTICALLY, "WOAH! MAN!"
and finally harboring the arrogance and GREED, to ASS/U/ME that God was going to just HAVE to make him AN OTHER one of those. :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P
A PURE Man, with a whistle-clean intellect (no pollution or preservatives or pesticides, or contemplated sin, yet ;) ) would have realized that his best friend was GOD; ALL contrary, discordant voices are liars; he was ALL that and OWNED EVERYTHING, as far as he could SEE, already, and that God did not remove all :roll: his ribs---but only one--He only made ONE Woman for him, to eat of the Tree of Life, together, in their Pure state and live 4ever, HAPPILY EVER AFTER, FOR ALL TIME....
Now, because he failed to protect her, they were no longer innocent, and with eyes open for the first time, as adults, knew fear and inferiority. Sin made our first parents SUCH a disfuctional family, their first born murdered their second born. How's THAT for your bedtime story, tonite, eh? Sweet dreams...
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New tweet
the golden egg
http://mettarefuge.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... lden-eggs/ (http://mettarefuge.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/developing-the-sensitivity-that-lays-golden-eggs/)
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I think this is more of a reference to the childrens story The Goose that Laid the Golden Egg, since MJ loves children so much....and there is a lesson to be learned in it....
http://www.storyit.com/Classics/Stories ... oseegg.htm (http://www.storyit.com/Classics/Stories/goldengooseegg.htm)
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by Its her » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:34 pm
"Now, because he failed to protect her, they were no longer innocent, and with eyes open for the first time, as adults, knew fear and inferiority. Sin made our first parents SUCH a disfuctional family, their first born murdered their second born. How's THAT for your bedtime story, tonite, eh? Sweet dreams..."
hmm... remember this story relates to the creation of man... IMO (and many won't agree) that Eve having twins as first birth represented a battle left over from the serpent and God... some may say like good and evil, but in the end of the Cain & Abel story, all the descendants of Cain were slain in the great flood... I don't think they were disfunctional at all... they had no book to read from LOL it was a creature they never saw before :lol: a baby :lol: they were learning parenting, just as all new parents do, but Adam & Eve had no parents to advise them what to do :lol: actually I think the Cain & Abel outcome was beyond their control...
...anyway Adam & Eve would have a 3rd son Seth whom the Bible describes as a splitting image of Adam... :ugeek:
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Here's another new one
"You will be a part of the world of make believe"
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These can twitter each one as understood interpretes
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Look at what I found when I googled "world of make believe!
http://www.rense.com/general74/make.htm (http://www.rense.com/general74/make.htm)
We need to get Michael's message out to more people, they need to become aware of what is really happening in this world. We need to open peoples eyes somehow!! Something big is going to happen...I feel it in my bones! :shock:
Sorry I don't know how to copy the article, but if someone can copy it , that would be great!
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Look at what I found when I googled "world of make believe!
http://www.rense.com/general74/make.htm (http://www.rense.com/general74/make.htm)
Sorry I don't know how to copy the article, but if someone can copy it , that would be great!
The Illuminati
World Of 'Make Believe'
By Henry Makow, PhD
11-5-6
If you asked Genghis Khan for his formula for world conquest, you'd expect to hear "overwhelming force" or "brute violence."
You would NOT expect to hear, "'Make-believe.'"
"Make-believe?" Who is this, a diabolical Disney?
Yet in the First Protocol of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the author says three times, Our Countersign is "Force and Make-believe."
By "make-believe" I assume he means Mass Deception.
I noticed this because of something I read in "The Truth About the Slump" (1931) by A.N. Field. It appears that Illuminati Jewish bankers financed the Bolshevik Revolution in exchange for ownership of Russian industry. (pp.62-72)
German Secret Service documents instructed the Bolsheviks to "destroy the Russian capitalists as far as you please, but it would by no means be possible to permit the destruction of Russian enterprises."
The German Imperial Bank sent the Bolsheviks in excess of 60 million rubles. In this context, Field cites Documents 10 and 11 between the bankers and the Bolsheviks: "They give a complete synopsis of the terms on which the German banks after the war were to control Russian industry." (p. 69)
Of course German Secret Service Chief Max Warburg, the brother of US Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Warburg, was behind this. We're talking about international bankers and their confederates here.
I was taught Communism was about equality and "public ownership," and the workers rose up to overthrow capitalist tyranny. I was not taught that Communism was a clever scheme by which certain capitalists paid Lenin and Trotsky to steal the wealth of other capitalists while pretending to promote the cause of workers.
The international bankers (the Federal Reserve Board)used US Treasury money to finance both the Bolshevik Revolution and the USSR. ("Collective Speeches of Congressman Louis T. McFadden," Chairman, House Banking Committee, p 397.)
What a triumph of "Make-believe" Communism was! Think of the millions of idealists who devoted their lives to this farce? Think of the millions who died in World War Two when the same bankers financed Hitler to keep Stalin in line (http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html (http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html))? Think of the trillions of dollars spent in the Cold War? "Make-believe!" Think of how little we in the West hear of Stalin's or Mao's atrocities compared to Hitler's. (See my "The Other Side of Holocaust Denial" http://www.savethemales.ca/000163.html (http://www.savethemales.ca/000163.html))
If Communism was a ruse, we can assume that every major historical event and cultural trend in modern Western History, including the religion of "secular humanism and modernism", are also the product of "Make-believe."
If they could pull off the Communist fraud,then the 9-11 attacks and the "War on Terror" are small potatoes indeed.
How do they do it? They control the instruments of "Make-believe": the mass media and "education" system.
ZIONISM
Some people think the central bankers are instituting their world dictatorship on behalf of the Jewish people. This is understandable since the same bankers (Rothschild, Schiff, Warburgs etc.) have been the official leaders of the Jewish community. They finance Jewish organizations and social/cultural movements in which Jews are prominent. But if Communism was a ruse, certainly the others, Feminism, Liberalism, Socialism, Neo Conservatism and Zionism, are also fraudulent. As much as anyone, Jews are the target and victims of Illuminati mind control, or "Make-belief."
Louis B. Marshall, (1856-1929) the Counsel to bankers Kuhn Loeb, which represented the Rothschilds said in a letter Sept. 26 1918, "Zionism is but an incident of a far-reaching plan: it is merely a convenient peg on which to hang a powerful weapon."
Gee, how would Jews who dedicated their lives to the dream of a "national homeland" react to this news? Or to the information that the new Israeli Supreme Court is filled with Masonic symbolism (http://www.abidemiracles.com/555701.htm (http://www.abidemiracles.com/555701.htm)) designed to serve the New World Order?
Recalling that "force" is part of the formula, Marshall's letter ended with a threat to non-Zionist Jews: "All the protests they may make would be futile. It would subject them individually to hateful and concrete examples of a most impressive nature. Even if I were disposed to combat Zionism, I would shrink from the possibilities that might result."
This letter was addressed to Max Senior, a businessman and philanthropist, who had asked Marshall to speak against Zionism at a rally. The threat is indicative of the gangster tactics Zionists used against the Jewish community. Senior was quick to react. He replied to Marshall Sept. 30 1918:
"I repudiate any connection on national, religious, racial or cultural grounds, with 'national home-land for the Jews in Palestine.' We have seen how demoralizing a divided allegiance was to the Germans in this country. I do not pretend to know the inside political history and intricacies of policy at which you hint...I am not to be intimated into silence by either of the threats you mention...I regard the real danger to the Jew to lie in the silent acquiescence to the Zionist claims." (L. Fry, "Waters Flowing Eastward", p.55)
CONCLUSION
J. Edgar Hoover famously said: "The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
Communism and Zionism are just "incidents in a far reaching plan" to create a "world government" dictatorship run by the central bankers dedicated to Lucifer. The "powerful weapon" is the energy of organized Jewry in helping to overthrow the Christian basis of Western Civilization and ushering in the "New Age." If necessary, Jews again can be sacrificed in the Illuminati's twisted megalomaniacal game.
Communism is the creation of the Illuminati, which is the top rung of Freemasonry. It is satanic. Its emblem, the five-pointed star, is Satanic. The Communist Manifesto calls for the destruction of the family, culture, science and religion (atheism), the confiscation of property and inheritance, control of communication and dictatorship. It also called for private central banks and income tax.
It troubles me that the same central bankers behind Communism are also behind 9-11 and the War on Terror. It troubles me that Zionists ( i.e. Neo-Cons) figure largely in fostering the next stage of the "Far reaching plan", the "Clash of Civilizations."
I don't believe Jews could have accomplished this without the cooperation of non-Jewish elites including European and American aristocratic families, the cartels and secret societies like Freemasonry, the Pilgrim Society, The Jesuits, Skull and Bones, Mormons, Fabians, Theosophists and the Bilderbergs. Essentially the New World Order is the extension of British-American imperialism, which always was the expression of a small Jewish-Gentile plutocracy.
It troubles me that, thanks to "Make-believe," the masses (Jewish and non-Jewish alike) live in a fool's paradise unaware of the darkness descending on them. And those who pierce the "Make-believe" and sound the alarm are accused of "hate"
---- See also my "Democracy is an Illusion" http://www.savethemales.ca/001102.html (http://www.savethemales.ca/001102.html)
Henry Makow Ph.D. is the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site www.savethemales.ca (http://www.savethemales.ca) He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. You are not allowed to view links.
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Thanks Nick_93! :D
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We chose the masters who must obey, also aware and unconsciously we acquired the morning newspaper that tricks us every morning in writing and often gives us images truncated and edited in advance.
At the same time, sterile entertainment, entertainment and fashion news appear and reappear continuously with the firm alienador objective for all members of society. Finally, since finishing the day was mechanically as robots any channel, whether the preference or tradition once again, advertising for the consumption of unnecessary goods, misrepresentation of facts, defence and justification of wars and massacres economic purposes, programs with comments and superfluous analysis, but more terrible is the transmission of an "illusory and fictional" lifestyle, which manages, in most cases, the handling of millions of men and women through stereotypes created and imposed by the ruling classes and who manage to control the minds of humans at will.
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Paula-c ...I have nothing to add nor subtract..you said it all ...and the Truth too.
God bless us all.
.from the Tyranny of the" FEW Elite EVIL" loose in the World Today!!
God bless us all!!
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Supervisión....... ;)
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Thanks Nick_93! :D
No worries! :)
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by paula-c » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:46 pm
Supervisión....... ;)
check it out paula-c...it's Supervision from
Visions from Michael fame, in General Talk : :D
We are trying to go the Supernatural Way...to destroy the
our Evil DESTROYERS..or Love them to DEATH.
Either way will do the deadly act.. :lol: :lol:
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thisisalmostit tweets back and forth with Dmovie27 on his twitter page - http://twitter.com/Dmovie27 (http://twitter.com/Dmovie27)
Dmovie27 has a youtube channel called themichaelproject20 - http://www.youtube.com/user/themichealproject20 (http://www.youtube.com/user/themichealproject20)
Are these "so-called" clues being revealed piece by piece by piece to get us to think for ourselves - to seek the truth about this world, OUR WORLD???
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by Its her » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:34 pm
"Now, because he failed to protect her, they were no longer innocent, and with eyes open for the first time, as adults, knew fear and inferiority. Sin made our first parents SUCH a disfuctional family, their first born murdered their second born. How's THAT for your bedtime story, tonite, eh? Sweet dreams..."
hmm... remember this story relates to the creation of man... IMO (and many won't agree) that Eve having twins as first birth represented a battle left over from the serpent and God... some may say like good and evil, but in the end of the Cain & Abel story, all the descendants of Cain were slain in the great flood... I don't think they were disfunctional at all... they had no book to read from LOL it was a creature they never saw before :lol: a baby :lol: they were learning parenting, just as all new parents do, but Adam & Eve had no parents to advise them what to do :lol: actually I think the Cain & Abel outcome was beyond their control...
...anyway Adam & Eve would have a 3rd son Seth whom the Bible describes as a splitting image of Adam... :ugeek:
Actually, Eve's firstborn was not twins. In fact, when the baby came out, first one, ever, she exclaimed to Adam,
"Holy Moley, check this OUT! I have gotten
a
(pint-sized--Ha Ha ) MAN from the Lord, Adam---he looks just like YOU!" :lol:
And, incidentally, God wasn't BATTLING the serpent---the Almighty ;) adjusted THAT situation (of a sorry, once BEAUTIFUL creature, who used his limited talent and authority to create
INIQUITY,
SUPPOSING :P :P that he could take the throne of God), by making the serpent unable to ever stand upright again, preventing him from looking Man in the eye, without climbing something... From that day, on, the serpent, who had permitted use of his body by disembodied evil, had to look UP to Man, from the position of being on his belly, crawling in the dirt, like a bug.
Of course, already jealous of US, this made him HATE us, MORE than MORE. He has told us a bazillion lies since then, the most powerfully deceptive of these is that no devil really exists, or that the truth of Scripture is a bunch of man-concocted fables... :o .
The first example of parenting on earth WAS dysfunctional, IMHO, because those two had partaken of the tree of knowledge of all good and evil, here...and with their eyes opened, FAILED to use any of it--- they STILL assumed their kids would be good, responsible, people, with kind regard for others, valuing human life as valuable and precious, self-disciplined, etc., etc., by simply being around them, and without PUTTING this knowledge into them, on purpose, of consideration of others and considering the consequences of every act.
Now, granted, they may have been wrecked, and overwhelmed by the knowledge of all they'd lost in Paradise, but this is another signpost on the road to dysfunction: LETTING things which happen to you, fill you with inertia, and control the rest of your future.
Think of it. They probably thought there WERE only "us 4, no more" to do all the work which now had to be done by the sweat of their brows just to survive the elements, which should have made each of them MORE valuable to each other...and YET, 25% of their population considered that eliminating another 25%, was of NO consequence!! (AMAZING, HUH? THAT FAR BACK!) (same lying devil)
How to be dysfunctional---thinking that one can live without (or, actually, CHEAT) consequences, comes naturally. There is more, to be had, though. The Bible says, Jesus came to get us OUT of all that, and back to the Garden. :) Just sayin'....
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eh, I think they just lived and learned the new place called earth.
If they would have never left Eden, they would have never learned to live on their own, like a child never leaving their parents home or birds who never leave the nest to start their own...
it is not for me to say which Bible stories are false or not, but to read them with understanding, just as I would a fable, mother goose stories and even fairy tales... there is something to be learned from all of them... well then again revelations is not based on experience or history, more like a warning or prediction, because Paul was in great turmoil when he wrote it :ugeek:
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by Its her » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:34 pm
"Now, because he failed to protect her, they were no longer innocent, and with eyes open for the first time, as adults, knew fear and inferiority. Sin made our first parents SUCH a disfuctional family, their first born murdered their second born. How's THAT for your bedtime story, tonite, eh? Sweet dreams..."
hmm... remember this story relates to the creation of man... IMO (and many won't agree) that Eve having twins as first birth represented a battle left over from the serpent and God... some may say like good and evil, but in the end of the Cain & Abel story, all the descendants of Cain were slain in the great flood... I don't think they were disfunctional at all... they had no book to read from LOL it was a creature they never saw before :lol: a baby :lol: they were learning parenting, just as all new parents do, but Adam & Eve had no parents to advise them what to do :lol: actually I think the Cain & Abel outcome was beyond their control...
...anyway Adam & Eve would have a 3rd son Seth whom the Bible describes as a splitting image of Adam... :ugeek:
Actually, Eve's firstborn was not twins. In fact, when the baby came out, first one, ever, she exclaimed to Adam,
"Holy Moley, check this OUT! I have gotten
a
(pint-sized--Ha Ha ) MAN from the Lord, Adam---he looks just like YOU!" :lol:
And, incidentally, God wasn't BATTLING the serpent---the Almighty ;) adjusted THAT situation (of a sorry, once BEAUTIFUL creature, who used his limited talent and authority to create
INIQUITY,
SUPPOSING :P :P that he could take the throne of God), by making the serpent unable to ever stand upright again, preventing him from looking Man in the eye, without climbing something... From that day, on, the serpent, who had permitted use of his body by disembodied evil, had to look UP to Man, from the position of being on his belly, crawling in the dirt, like a bug.
Of course, already jealous of US, this made him HATE us, MORE than MORE. He has told us a bazillion lies since then, the most powerfully deceptive of these is that no devil really exists, or that the truth of Scripture is a bunch of man-concocted fables... :o .
The first example of parenting on earth WAS dysfunctional, IMHO, because those two had partaken of the tree of knowledge of all good and evil, here...and with their eyes opened, FAILED to use any of it--- they STILL assumed their kids would be good, responsible, people, with kind regard for others, valuing human life as valuable and precious, self-disciplined, etc., etc., by simply being around them, and without PUTTING this knowledge into them, on purpose, of consideration of others and considering the consequences of every act.
Now, granted, they may have been wrecked, and overwhelmed by the knowledge of all they'd lost in Paradise, but this is another signpost on the road to dysfunction: LETTING things which happen to you, fill you with inertia, and control the rest of your future.
Think of it. They probably thought there WERE only "us 4, no more" to do all the work which now had to be done by the sweat of their brows just to survive the elements, which should have made each of them MORE valuable to each other...and YET, 25% of their population considered that eliminating another 25%, was of NO consequence!! (AMAZING, HUH? THAT FAR BACK!) (same lying devil)
How to be dysfunctional---thinking that one can live without (or, actually, CHEAT) consequences, comes naturally. There is more, to be had, though. The Bible says, Jesus came to get us OUT of all that, and back to the Garden. :) Just sayin'....
if I am correct, before the establishment of the world there was a battle in heaven that lucifer should be recognized as equal to God, and for this he was expelled. IMO I feel that the cast out angel who had the power of an angel fell onto a mass that would become the world, just so God can prove that he is higher and mightier, and could have possibly did away with the dinosaurs and did what he wanted... this is just my analogy/theory and I could be wrong...
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another new one
http://tinyurl.com/2atxy7h (http://tinyurl.com/2atxy7h)
I never knew Michael did this song.
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another new one
http://tinyurl.com/2atxy7h (http://tinyurl.com/2atxy7h)
I never knew Michael did this song.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You've_Got_a_Friend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You've_Got_a_Friend)
"Michael Jackson on his album Got to Be There with Motown Records in 1971" (Wikipedia).
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thisisalmostit tweets back and forth with Dmovie27 on his twitter page - http://twitter.com/Dmovie27 (http://twitter.com/Dmovie27)
thisisalmostit HAS NOT tweeted to anyone. They just tweet in general.
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
Dmovie27 isn't even following thisisalmostit. thisisalmostit isn't following Dmovie27.
I see that Dmovie27 has tweeted a couple things to thisisalmost it but so what many people do.
@thisisalmostit go man go!!! :)
@thisisalmostit MJ=E.L.F. the adventure begins! :)
@thisisalmostit haha..most excellent...you quoted my last interlude vid on youtube. are u watching mickey? :)
@thisisalmostit Godspell. :)
thisisalmostit never tweets back to anyone. I don't see any connection between them, sorry.
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re: "You will be a part of the world of make believe"
SONY again!
make.believe
it's their current slogan...
:mrgreen:
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Re: You Got a Friend:
Interesting bit of info. Carole King wrote and performed this song on her "Tapestry" album (1971).
"Tapestry, the second solo album of her career, which is reissued here in a 2-CD Legacy edition with an extra ‘live’ disc, featured the hit singles “It’s Too Late” (a US Number 1) and “So Far Away”, besides famous tunes like “I Feel The Earth Move”, “You’ve Got A Friend” (a US chart-topper for James Taylor) and “Smackwater Jack”. Constant airplay for these tracks helped Tapestry to become a bestseller, then an über-phenomenon with unprecedented market reach. Instantly established as a landmark in the singer-songwriter genre, and still an enduring favourite in many record collections today, it has sold an estimated 25 million copies, and was the top-selling solo album in history until Michael Jackson’s Thriller overtook it" (http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/carole_king/reviews/11943 (http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/carole_king/reviews/11943)).
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thisisalmostit tweets back and forth with Dmovie27 on his twitter page - http://twitter.com/Dmovie27 (http://twitter.com/Dmovie27)
thisisalmostit HAS NOT tweeted to anyone. They just tweet in general.
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
Dmovie27 isn't even following thisisalmostit. thisisalmostit isn't following Dmovie27.
I see that Dmovie27 has tweeted a couple things to thisisalmost it but so what many people do.
@thisisalmostit go man go!!! :)
@thisisalmostit MJ=E.L.F. the adventure begins! :)
@thisisalmostit haha..most excellent...you quoted my last interlude vid on youtube. are u watching mickey? :)
@thisisalmostit Godspell. :)
thisisalmostit never tweets back to anyone. I don't see any connection between them, sorry.
thank you for clearing up my confusion - relatively NEW to twitter - SORRY!
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thisisalmostit tweets back and forth with Dmovie27 on his twitter page - http://twitter.com/Dmovie27 (http://twitter.com/Dmovie27)
Dmovie27 has a youtube channel called themichaelproject20 - http://www.youtube.com/user/themichealproject20 (http://www.youtube.com/user/themichealproject20)
Are these "so-called" clues being revealed piece by piece by piece to get us to think for ourselves - to seek the truth about this world, OUR WORLD???
1 Corinthians 12 (Amplified Bible)
1 Corinthians 12
1 NOW ABOUT the spiritual gifts (the special endowments of supernatural energy), brethren, I do not want you to be misinformed.
2 You know that when you were heathen, you were led off after idols that could not speak [habitually] as impulse directed and whenever the occasion might arise.
3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking under the power and influence of the [Holy] Spirit of God can [ever] say, Jesus be cursed! And no one can [really] say, Jesus is [my] Lord, except by and under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit.
4 Now there are distinctive varieties and distributions of endowments (gifts, extraordinary powers distinguishing certain Christians, due to the power of divine grace operating in their souls by the Holy Spirit) and they vary, but the [Holy] Spirit remains the same.
5 And there are distinctive varieties of service and ministration, but it is the same Lord [Who is served].
6 And there are distinctive varieties of operation [of working to accomplish things], but it is the same God Who inspires and energizes them all in all.
7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the [Holy] Spirit [the evidence, the spiritual illumination of the Spirit] for good and profit.
8 To one is given in and through the [Holy] Spirit [the power to speak] a message of wisdom, and to another [the power to express] a word of knowledge and understanding according to the same [Holy] Spirit;
9 To another [wonder-working] faith by the same [Holy] Spirit, to another the extraordinary powers of healing by the one Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles, to another prophetic insight (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose); to another the ability to discern and distinguish between [the utterances of true] spirits [and false ones], to another various kinds of [unknown] tongues, to another the ability to interpret [such] tongues.
11 All these [gifts, achievements, abilities] are inspired and brought to pass by one and the same [Holy] Spirit, Who apportions to each person individually [exactly] as He chooses.
12 For just as the body is a unity and yet has many parts, and all the parts, though many, form [only] one body, so it is with Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).
13 For by [means of the personal agency of] one [Holy] Spirit we were all, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free, baptized [and by baptism united together] into one body, and all made to drink of one [Holy] Spirit.
14 For the body does not consist of one limb or organ but of many.
15 If the foot should say, Because I am not the hand, I do not belong to the body, would it be therefore not [a part] of the body?
16 If the ear should say, Because I am not the eye, I do not belong to the body, would it be therefore not [a part] of the body?
17 If the whole body were an eye, where [would be the sense of] hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where [would be the sense of] smell?
18 But as it is, God has placed and arranged the limbs and organs in the body, each [particular one] of them, just as He wished and saw fit and with the best adaptation.
19 But if [the whole] were all a single organ, where would the body be?
20 And now there are [certainly] many limbs and organs, but a single body.
21 And the eye is not able to say to the hand, I have no need of you, nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
22 But instead, there is [absolute] necessity for the parts of the body that are considered the more weak.
23 And those [parts] of the body which we consider rather ignoble are [the very parts] which we invest with additional honor, and our unseemly parts and those unsuitable for exposure are treated with seemliness (modesty and decorum),
24 Which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so adjusted (mingled, harmonized, and subtly proportioned the parts of) the whole body, giving the greater honor and richer endowment to the inferior parts which lack [apparent importance],
25 So that there should be no division or discord or lack of adaptation [of the parts of the body to each other], but the members all alike should have a mutual interest in and care for one another.
26 And if one member suffers, all the parts [share] the suffering; if one member is honored, all the members [share in] the enjoyment of it.
27 Now you [collectively] are Christ's body and [individually] you are members of it, each part severally and distinct [each with his own place and function].
28 So God has appointed some in the church [for His own use]: first apostles (special messengers); second prophets (inspired preachers and expounders); third teachers; then wonder-workers; then those with ability to heal the sick; helpers; administrators; [speakers in] different (unknown) tongues.
29 Are all apostles (special messengers)? Are all prophets (inspired interpreters of the will and purposes of God)? Are all teachers? Do all have the power of performing miracles?
30 Do all possess extraordinary powers of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
31 But earnestly desire and zealously cultivate the greatest and best gifts and graces (the higher gifts and the choicest graces). And yet I will show you a still more excellent way [one that is better by far and the highest of them all--love].
Do Not be FOOLED by Dmovie27, he has been debunked by me, many times here on this forum. All you got to do is read my posts to know who is who based on the scripture I have posted and spiritual gifts given unto the true disciples.
At one point he was following thisisalmostit, but no longer is, maybe because of this thread. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9066 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9066)
He is out to manipulate and fool anyone who is niave/gullible enough to fall for his bullshit.
He is a Judas and Judas was a disciple at one time of Our Lord Jesus. Judas life didn't end very well.
Peace
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"He is a Judas and Judas was a disciple at one time of Our Lord Jesus. Judas life didn't end very well."
its not funny but that last line made me laugh
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"He is a Judas and Judas was a disciple at one time of Our Lord Jesus. Judas life didn't end very well."
its not funny but that last line made me laugh
lol right wit u!
:? 8-) ;)
Peace
:ugeek:
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I really enjoy the discussions in this thread, you´re able to tell these biblical stories so lively. :D
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Re: You Got a Friend:
Interesting bit of info. Carole King wrote and performed this song on her "Tapestry" album (1971).
"Tapestry, the second solo album of her career, which is reissued here in a 2-CD Legacy edition with an extra ‘live’ disc, featured the hit singles “It’s Too Late” (a US Number 1) and “So Far Away”, besides famous tunes like “I Feel The Earth Move”, “You’ve Got A Friend” (a US chart-topper for James Taylor) and “Smackwater Jack”. Constant airplay for these tracks helped Tapestry to become a bestseller, then an über-phenomenon with unprecedented market reach. Instantly established as a landmark in the singer-songwriter genre, and still an enduring favourite in many record collections today, it has sold an estimated 25 million copies, and was the top-selling solo album in history until Michael Jackson’s Thriller overtook it" (http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/carole_king/reviews/11943 (http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/carole_king/reviews/11943)).
Hey, thanks for this info on Carole King's "Tapestry"....I hadn't realized that it was displaced by "Thriller" as the top-selling solo album in history....yet reading that, I'm not surprised...."Tapestry", like "Thiller" was a watershed album for Carole King in the mid-70's...a career-making LP....a collection of songs so utterly perfect that they defined the artist for all time...."Tapestry", more than any other album, was absolutely, without question, the soundtrack of my high school experience back in the mid-70's...then along came college and "Off the Wall" took over, along with the BeeGee's and "Saturday Night Fever"....my college years were The Disco Years...."Thriller" came on the heels of all that, but "Tapestry" was a key component of my teen years...."You've Got a Friend" is one of the greatest songs ever written and it warms my heart so to hear Young Michael's version of it....in fact, it is such an epic song, it DESERVES to have more than one version of it recorded...but I would have loved to have heard Mike sing this song as an adult, wouldn't you?
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This last tweet about the song really touched me, thanks Thisisalmostit, whoever you are....
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another new one
http://tinyurl.com/2atxy7h (http://tinyurl.com/2atxy7h)
Oooooohhhhhhh, that was sweet from Thisisalmostit.
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This last tweet about the song really touched me, thanks Thisisalmostit, whoever you are....
Me too.
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I really enjoy the discussions in this thread, you´re able to tell these biblical stories so lively. :D
Welcome to the 2010 Chuuuuuurch! lol
It is awesome though that it can be discussed in an artsy and creative, interpretive way.
Makes learning it easier.
Peace
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Hey Guys, another new tweet
http://tinyurl.com/372e66s (http://tinyurl.com/372e66s)
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thankyou that is really food for thought
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This Elvis I live 8-) .............. and michael also :lol:
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I am a bit suspicious that the man or woman "Peter Pan" behind "thisisalmostit" is TS or anyone here forum ... What do you think? :roll: :?: :oops:
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the latest
thisisalmostit If you're thinking of my brother it does matter if he's black or white
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Psalm 94 (Amplified Bible)
Psalm 94
1 O LORD God, You to Whom vengeance belongs, O God, You to Whom vengeance belongs, shine forth!
2 Rise up, O Judge of the earth; render to the proud a fit compensation!
3 Lord, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph and exult?
4 They pour out arrogant words, speaking hard things; all the evildoers boast loftily.
5 They crush Your people, O Lord, and afflict Your heritage.
6 They slay the widow and the transient stranger and murder the unprotected orphan.
7 Yet they say, The Lord does not see, neither does the God of Jacob notice it.
8 Consider and understand, you stupid ones among the people! And you [self-confident] fools, when will you become wise?
9 He Who planted the ear, shall He not hear? He Who formed the eye, shall He not see?
10 He Who disciplines and instructs the nations, shall He not punish, He Who teaches man knowledge?
11 The Lord knows the thoughts of man, that they are vain (empty and futile--only a breath).
12 Blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) is the man whom You discipline and instruct, O Lord, and teach out of Your law,
13 That You may give him power to keep himself calm in the days of adversity, until the [inevitable] pit of corruption is dug for the wicked.
14 For the Lord will not cast off nor spurn His people, neither will He abandon His heritage.
15 For justice will return to the [uncompromisingly] righteous, and all the upright in heart will follow it.
16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? Who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
17 Unless the Lord had been my help, I would soon have dwelt in [the land where there is] silence.
18 When I said, My foot is slipping, Your mercy and loving-kindness, O Lord, held me up.
19 In the multitude of my [anxious] thoughts within me, Your comforts cheer and delight my soul!
20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with You--they who frame and hide their unrighteous doings under [the sacred name of] law?
21 They band themselves together against the life of the [consistently] righteous and condemn the innocent to death.
22 But the Lord has become my High Tower and Defense, and my God the Rock of my refuge.
23 And He will turn back upon them their own iniquity and will wipe them out by means of their own wickedness; the Lord our God will wipe them out.
:ugeek: 8-) :ugeek:
TAKE NOTICE Ceci AND A WARNING. You Will Reap what you sow.
http://twitter.com/Ceciqueen4eva88 (http://twitter.com/Ceciqueen4eva88)
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/2kcq7t (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/2kcq7t)
On Monday 19th July 2010, @Ceciqueen4eva88 said:
reply
@thisisalmostit:
Hello, Elvis Presley! (Rolls Eyes)
Since you're BAMing with Michael, when are you coming back? So making us beLIEvers tweet about #FuckedUpElvisAndMJ is gonna make you come back, right? No? Why? Cause YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST AND ONLY WANT VIEWS TO SOME STUPID WEBSITE TO MAKE MONEY? Huh? Is that what you said? You need to be clearer, Mr. Presley.And if the general public went to that Elvis/MJ shit, they would laugh at it, like The Sun laughed at Souza. And if you are BAMing/teaming up with MJ(which you're not, because you're dead), then you should be able to type the lyrics to "Black or White" correctly. Are you really Badkolo? Because you can't spell, right? But if you really meant that tweet, then are you racist? "It DOES matter if he's black or white?" Michael is for bringing all nationalities together, not separating them.
The truth is REVEALED. YOU tweeting about Elvis being alive, and the hoax site saying that too. You used to tweet Prince stuff,and now talking about that Elvis is alive. You are a stupid person, letting eveyone see the connections. Put down the bong and tweet some stuff that matters.
~~Ceci
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the latest
thisisalmostit If you're thinking of my brother it does matter if he's black or white
DNA ?
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thisisalmostit "When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye"
13 minutes ago via web
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Or, the race does not matter, if you are white or black, equal you are my brother ;)
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Or, the race does not matter, if you are white or black, equal you are my brother ;)
Black and White :arrow: Good and Evil
Dualism
(http://www.supremechienergy.com/images/yin_yang.gif)
It would matter then...
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If Serenitys_Dream,..good and evil, black and white philosophy
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youngatheart wrote:
thisisalmostit "When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye"
13 minutes ago via web
Or the challenges of utopia...
The lifecycle of these movements depends on its ability to generate knowledge and valid experiences; that is, how participants (people,we ) are intertwined, build, and become active thought that gives meaning to utopia.
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O minorities we, the believers? :?:
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O minorities we, the believers? :?:
Prince: The Rainbow Children
Family Name Lyrics
Welcome.
U have just accessed the Akashic Records Genetic Information Division.
This program is required 4 those wishing 2 obtain
a marriage blessing from the kingdom.
When U wish 2 begin this program, place your right hand
on the scanner and tightly clench up your buttcheeks as U might feel a
slight electrical shock.
Please select the race history U desire.
U have selected "African-American".
This is your history:
First of all, the term "black and white" is a fallacy.
It simply is another way of saying "this or that".
Let's examine the term "this or that" in its ultimate form
which is: "this" means the truth or "that" which is resistant 2 it.
When a minority realizes its similarities on a higher level
not just "black", but "people of color", and higher still "indigenous", and even higher still, "from the tribe of", and yet higher:
"The Rainbow Children".
When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye.
This action will cause a reaction or resistance.
The source of this resistance must be banished as it is in direct conflict with the initial action.
It cannot be assimilated, 4 its very nature is resistance.
In other words, one cannot serve 2 masters.
U are either "this" or "that which is not this".
End of part one.
2 continue, select the program "Family Name" and type in the
current government name U wish history on.
London, England, sometime in the early 1600's:
We have the God-given right 2 run out of our colony anyone
who does not bow down 2 our law
Hear, hear!
Hear, hear, exactly, that's what I said!
[Say I'm from the ...]
Hear hear, hear hear
Aye, yes, aye, aye!
Come on, come on, keep it moving here
Come on, now
What's your name boy?
Abu, Abu Cah
Well, it ain't now, it's Tom Lynch
Mirror, mirror what U see?
Have I still got those dark clouds over me?
Or am I really feeling what I feel?
The last days of the devil's deal
Oh mirror, what U see?
Devil, devil what U know?
U been here since 1914, but now U got 2 go
U been hidin' behind corporate eyes
U wanna war, but U can't fight
Oh devil, oh, U got 2 go, yes sir!
Bridge...
U might say, "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U, Mr. Rosenbloom
I'll be John Blackwell just the same
What's your family name?
Teacher, teacher what U say?
Did we really come over in a boat?
Did it really go down that way?
Or did I arrive before U and ruin Thanksgiving Day?
Oh teacher, oh, what U say?
Preacher, preacher is it true?
That Jesus wants me 2 give my money 2 the likes of U?
Ride around in your Lexus coupe
Drive us 2 the cleaners in a pinstripe suit
Oh preacher, that ain't truth!
The bridge, huh...
U might say, "what U mad about?
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U, Mr. Pearlman
U can call me "Clay"
Now can I play?
People, people what's your name?
Maybe we should start all over
Let everybody get in the game
Put up a one-gloved fist
Make a sound, Violet Brown
U might say "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U Mr. Goldstruck
We found this tape in the Akashic records.
This is Thomas Jefferson:
"My fellow Americans, if there is a just God, we're gonna pay 4 this!"
"Black men and White men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics
will be able 2 join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:
free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last!"
http://www.dtt-lyrics.com/albums/trc.html
[youtube:2etij8mu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48D23uKSqb8[/youtube:2etij8mu]
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thisisalmostit "When this understanding comes, the so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye"
13 minutes ago via web
The truth will prevail.
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The truth, he never put attention to Prince :?
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O minorities we, the believers? :?:
That is exactly what I thought of too!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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New tweet
thisisalmostit "Until we meet again, may God bless you as he has blessed me"
about 2 hours ago via web
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"Until we meet again, may God bless you as he has blessed me."
Elvis Presley
:ugeek:
And we shall. Meet again. God willing
Peace
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It is also a popular celtic blessing.
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A new tweet. First on in almost a week. Interesting :?
thisisalmostit http://tinyurl.com/ms93s5 (http://tinyurl.com/ms93s5)
28 minutes ago via web
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:roll: :roll: :roll:
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Which Bam? :?:
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A new tweet. First on in almost a week. Interesting :?
thisisalmostit http://tinyurl.com/ms93s5 (http://tinyurl.com/ms93s5)
28 minutes ago via web
but when though??
Oh im sorry he doesnt know when Bam is coming :?
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A new tweet. First on in almost a week. Interesting :?
thisisalmostit http://tinyurl.com/ms93s5 (http://tinyurl.com/ms93s5)
28 minutes ago via web
but when though??
Oh im sorry he doesnt know when Bam is coming :?
Almost is running out of ideas! :lol:
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He he.. ;)
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Amongst the first tweets was "I can't wait 4 July", so i think we just wait it out..... ;)
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A new one:
John 3:7
Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
To be born again, is to be inwardly changed from all sinfulness to all holiness. It is fitly so called, because as great a change then passes on the soul as passes on the body when it is born into the world.
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A new one:
John 3:7
Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
To be born again, is to be inwardly changed from all sinfulness to all holiness. It is fitly so called, because as great a change then passes on the soul as passes on the body when it is born into the world.
This is the verse 3 which gives more details:
John 3:3 (New International Version)
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
But the translation from Greek is apparently not accurate. I found this:
"Jesus Christ used the "birth" analogy in tracing spiritual newness of life to a divine beginning. Contemporary Christian theologians have provided explanations for "born from above" being a more accurate translation of the original Greek word transliterated. Theologian Frank Stagg cites two reasons why the newer translation is significant:
1. The emphasis "from above" (implying "from Heaven") calls attention to the source of the "newness of life." Stagg writes that the word "again" does not include the source of the new kind of beginning
2. More than personal improvement is needed. "...a new destiny requires a new origin, and the new origin must be from God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian)
Finally I understand that it's about resurrection. To me it means that everybody has to die first then be resurrected by God to access Heaven or Hell depending on everyone's deeds and decisions while on earth. We must have faith in our only Savior which is God.
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Again a new tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/2b8snnj (http://tinyurl.com/2b8snnj)
Bobby Fischer’s body exhumed for DNA samples for paternity test
Monday, the body of Bobby Fischer was exhumed and re-buried in Iceland so that officials could obtain a DNA sample to be used in an alleged paternity case. Fischer was a world renowned child prodigy chess player who died in January 2008 at 64.
Jinky Young, Fischer's alleged daughter asked the Supreme Court in Iceland to exhume his remains last month and the request was approved.
The body was exhumed, a DNA sample was taken in the presence of a doctor, priest and other officials, and then the body was immediately re-buried.
Fischer became known internationally in 1972 when he defeated chess grandmaster Boris Spassky of Russia and became the new world champion. Chess fans from around the world have watched the infamous game.
Over time, Fischer became a recluse and stayed out of the spotlight. In 1992, Fischer played Spassky again and won, he earned $3.5 million for it. The US government revoked Fischer’s passport after the chess match for violating UN sanctions by participating.
Fischer moved to Iceland in 2005.
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I might be really off here but I am beginning to think that this twitter account has taken the place of TIAI's account. TIAI stopped twittering in mid April and this account began about a week later. Plus it seems a little odd that whatever TS redirects to is what this person tweets about.
So may it's no longer This Is Also It. Now it's This Is Almost It. We're getting closer, piece by piece. IDK just a thought
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Again a new tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/2b8snnj (http://tinyurl.com/2b8snnj)
Bobby Fischer’s body exhumed for DNA samples for paternity test
Monday, the body of Bobby Fischer was exhumed and re-buried in Iceland so that officials could obtain a DNA sample to be used in an alleged paternity case. Fischer was a world renowned child prodigy chess player who died in January 2008 at 64.
Jinky Young, Fischer's alleged daughter asked the Supreme Court in Iceland to exhume his remains last month and the request was approved.
The body was exhumed, a DNA sample was taken in the presence of a doctor, priest and other officials, and then the body was immediately re-buried.
Fischer became known internationally in 1972 when he defeated chess grandmaster Boris Spassky of Russia and became the new world champion. Chess fans from around the world have watched the infamous game.
Over time, Fischer became a recluse and stayed out of the spotlight. In 1992, Fischer played Spassky again and won, he earned $3.5 million for it. The US government revoked Fischer’s passport after the chess match for violating UN sanctions by participating.
Fischer moved to Iceland in 2005.
Funny that I was reading this article this afternoon http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/fashi ... scher.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/fashion/25fischer.html) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Already we will see that it happens in this summer
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Here's a new tweet
thisisalmostit "To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
So whoever this is definetly reads this forum. Below is a post I made in another thread earlier today
Report this postReply with quoteRe: MJJackson1958 twitter account could be a proof...
by youngatheart » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:58 pm
MashMike wrote:
welcome to the board callofthewild and thx for the info , i believe u,there were a lot of attention seekers here but i can feel that u're not one of them,so if u knew MJ personally, it's just great that you are a member of this site now,blessings.
I agree. I really feel that some people are two quick to dismiss the possibility that someone on this forum could actually have a connection to Michael. I know this comes from others in the past playing games with us. I just feel that if people are not open minded to these possibilities than we could be throwing away an unbelievable opportunity to find some answers to the multitude of questions we have. I for one welcome the chance to have some light shed on any aspect of this adventure.
"The highest form of ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about"
Dr. Wayne Dyer
pretty much the same thing just reworded
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"To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
Quote from Albert Einstein.
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Here's a new tweet
thisisalmostit "To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
So whoever this is definetly reads this forum. Below is a post I made in another thread earlier today
Report this postReply with quoteRe: MJJackson1958 twitter account could be a proof...
by youngatheart » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:58 pm
MashMike wrote:
welcome to the board callofthewild and thx for the info , i believe u,there were a lot of attention seekers here but i can feel that u're not one of them,so if u knew MJ personally, it's just great that you are a member of this site now,blessings.
I agree. I really feel that some people are two quick to dismiss the possibility that someone on this forum could actually have a connection to Michael. I know this comes from others in the past playing games with us. I just feel that if people are not open minded to these possibilities than we could be throwing away an unbelievable opportunity to find some answers to the multitude of questions we have. I for one welcome the chance to have some light shed on any aspect of this adventure.
"The highest form of ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about"
Dr. Wayne Dyer
pretty much the same thing just reworded
This is very interesting regarding this connection, Twitter has not been working all day, from where I am from - the UK. The posts from "Call of the Wild" are intriguing regarding the MJJackson1958 twitter account in that thread
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Here's a new tweet
thisisalmostit "To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
So whoever this is definetly reads this forum. Below is a post I made in another thread earlier today
Report this postReply with quoteRe: MJJackson1958 twitter account could be a proof...
by youngatheart » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:58 pm
MashMike wrote:
welcome to the board callofthewild and thx for the info , i believe u,there were a lot of attention seekers here but i can feel that u're not one of them,so if u knew MJ personally, it's just great that you are a member of this site now,blessings.
I agree. I really feel that some people are two quick to dismiss the possibility that someone on this forum could actually have a connection to Michael. I know this comes from others in the past playing games with us. I just feel that if people are not open minded to these possibilities than we could be throwing away an unbelievable opportunity to find some answers to the multitude of questions we have. I for one welcome the chance to have some light shed on any aspect of this adventure.
"The highest form of ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about"
Dr. Wayne Dyer
pretty much the same thing just reworded
I agree with what you said here in Bold. People are here on this forum because they say they believe that Michael is alive, yet anytime someone even hints that they may have a connection with Michael, they immediately say "fake" or "poser" etc. If you believe he is alive, then you must also believe that there is the possibility that "someone" does have a "connection" with Michael. I have said this before, this is the "Michael Jackson Hoax forum" and I'm sure that Michael visits here to see what is going on and how we are progressing with his spreading his "message." It is all about "awareness" my friends. TIAI's post today says it all!
I love you most Michael..."Heart" To "Heart" :D
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mjj4ever777, If what your you say it is very true
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A new one:
John 3:7
Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
To be born again, is to be inwardly changed from all sinfulness to all holiness. It is fitly so called, because as great a change then passes on the soul as passes on the body when it is born into the world.
This is the verse 3 which gives more details:
John 3:3 (New International Version)
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
But the translation from Greek is apparently not accurate. I found this:
"Jesus Christ used the "birth" analogy in tracing spiritual newness of life to a divine beginning. Contemporary Christian theologians have provided explanations for "born from above" being a more accurate translation of the original Greek word transliterated. Theologian Frank Stagg cites two reasons why the newer translation is significant:
1. The emphasis "from above" (implying "from Heaven") calls attention to the source of the "newness of life." Stagg writes that the word "again" does not include the source of the new kind of beginning
2. More than personal improvement is needed. "...a new destiny requires a new origin, and the new origin must be from God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian)
Finally I understand that it's about resurrection. To me it means that everybody has to die first then be resurrected by God to access Heaven or Hell depending on everyone's deeds and decisions while on earth. We must have faith in our only Savior which is God.
I am not implying that you don't correctly understand this meaning of "being born again" but, many people misunderstand what it takes to "be born again" or how we get to be sons and daughters of God or inherit The Kingdom of God and have Eternal Life in Heaven with God (the father) and Jesus (Son of both Man and God the father.)
Many people misunderstand and assume it takes works or deeds here on earth and that is how we get salvation and eternal life in heaven.
That is very far from the truth.
If the scripture below is read in full and we see that Jesus is saying to us what is needed out of his own mouth and then John tells us again what is needed, I interpret that to be:
Being "born again" is crusifying ones "flesh" everyday and turning away from sin, turning instead towards Jesus and having a "personal relationship with him"
"Believing" in him (Jesus) and he will acknowledge us before God (The father) in heaven.
We must be "born of water" Baptized in water, John baptized Jesus.
I have been baptized in a lake in Redding, Ca in 1994, I was an adult so it is different than sprinkling water on a baby.
Being "born again in spirit" our spirit inside of us, and the Holy Spirit which guides us if we are listening and we know him... God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit.
It is "Faith" and "Belief" in "Jesus" that he died for our sins and paid the Price (of our Gift of Eternal Life in Heaven from Our God The Father) if we choose it and turn from Evil and back towards Good, Jesus, God and live a more rightgeous life.
Peace
:ugeek:
John 3 (Amplified Bible)
John 3
1 NOW THERE was a certain man among the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler (a leader, an authority) among the Jews,
2 Who came to Jesus at night and said to Him, Rabbi, we know and are certain that You have come from God [as] a Teacher; for no one can do these signs (these wonderworks, these miracles--and produce the proofs) that You do unless God is with him.
3 Jesus answered him, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, that unless a person is born again (anew, from above), he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus said to Him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter his mother's womb again and be born?
5 Jesus answered, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, unless a man is born of water and [even] the Spirit, he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God.
6 What is born of [from] the flesh is flesh [of the physical is physical]; and what is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not [do not be surprised, astonished] at My telling you, You must all be born anew (from above).
8 The wind blows (breathes) where it wills; and though you hear its sound, yet you neither know where it comes from nor where it is going. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered by asking, How can all this be possible?
10 Jesus replied, Are you the teacher of Israel, and yet do not know nor understand these things? [Are they strange to you?]
11 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, We speak only of what we know [we know absolutely what we are talking about]; we have actually seen what we are testifying to [we were eyewitnesses of it]. And still you do not receive our testimony [you reject and refuse our evidence--that of Myself and of all those who are born of the Spirit].
12 If I have told you of things that happen right here on the earth and yet none of you believes Me, how can you believe (trust Me, adhere to Me, rely on Me) if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And yet no one has ever gone up to heaven, but there is One Who has come down from heaven--the Son of Man [Himself], Who is (dwells, has His home) in heaven.
14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert [on a pole], so must [so it is necessary that] the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross],
15 In order that everyone who believes in Him [who cleaves to Him, trusts Him, and relies on Him] may [not perish, but have eternal life and [actually] live forever!
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
17 For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him.
18 He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation--he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ's name.]
19 The [basis of the] judgment (indictment, the test by which men are judged, the ground for the sentence) lies in this: the Light has come into the world, and people have loved the darkness rather than and more than the Light, for their works (deeds) were evil.
20 For every wrongdoer hates (loathes, detests) the Light, and will not come out into the Light but shrinks from it, lest his works (his deeds, his activities, his conduct) be exposed and reproved.
21 But he who practices truth [who does what is right] comes out into the Light; so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--wrought with God [divinely prompted, done with God's help, in dependence upon Him].
22 After this, Jesus and His disciples went into the land (the countryside) of Judea, where He remained with them, and baptized.
23 But John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, for there was an abundance of water there, and the people kept coming and being baptized.
24 For John had not yet been thrown into prison.
25 Therefore there arose a controversy between some of John's disciples and a Jew in regard to purification.
26 So they came to John and reported to him, Rabbi, the Man Who was with you on the other side of the Jordan [at the Jordan crossing]--and to Whom you yourself have borne testimony--notice, here He is baptizing too, and everybody is flocking to Him!
27 John answered, A man can receive nothing [he can claim nothing, he can take unto himself nothing] except as it has been granted to him from heaven. [A man must be content to receive the gift which is given him from heaven; there is no other source.]
28 You yourselves are my witnesses [you personally bear me out] that I stated, I am not the Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), but I have [only] been sent before Him [in advance of Him, to be His appointed forerunner, His messenger, His announcer].
29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the groomsman who stands by and listens to him rejoices greatly and heartily on account of the bridegroom's voice. This then is my pleasure and joy, and it is now complete. [S. of Sol. 5:1.]
30 He must increase, but I must decrease. [He must grow more prominent; I must grow less so.]
31 He Who comes from above (heaven) is [far] above all [others]; he who comes from the earth belongs to the earth, and talks the language of earth [his words are from an earthly standpoint]. He Who comes from heaven is [far] above all others [far superior to all others in prominence and in excellence].
32 It is to what He has [actually] seen and heard that He bears testimony, and yet no one accepts His testimony [no one receives His evidence as true].
33 Whoever receives His testimony has set his seal of approval to this: God is true. [That man has definitely certified, acknowledged, declared once and for all, and is himself assured that it is divine truth that God cannot lie].
34 For since He Whom God has sent speaks the words of God [proclaims God's own message], God does not give Him His Spirit sparingly or by measure, but boundless is the gift God makes of His Spirit!
35 The Father loves the Son and has given (entrusted, committed) everything into His hand.
36 And he who believes in (has faith in, clings to, relies on) the Son has (now possesses) eternal life. But whoever disobeys (is unbelieving toward, refuses to trust in, disregards, is not subject to) the Son will never see (experience) life, but [instead] the wrath of God abides on him. [God's displeasure remains on him; His indignation hangs over him continually.]
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mjj4ever777, If what your you say it is very true
Thank you Paula, it is true! Sometimes we don't see what is right in front of us until it bites us on the nose! :lol:
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A new one:
John 3:7
Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
To be born again, is to be inwardly changed from all sinfulness to all holiness. It is fitly so called, because as great a change then passes on the soul as passes on the body when it is born into the world.
This is the verse 3 which gives more details:
John 3:3 (New International Version)
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
But the translation from Greek is apparently not accurate. I found this:
"Jesus Christ used the "birth" analogy in tracing spiritual newness of life to a divine beginning. Contemporary Christian theologians have provided explanations for "born from above" being a more accurate translation of the original Greek word transliterated. Theologian Frank Stagg cites two reasons why the newer translation is significant:
1. The emphasis "from above" (implying "from Heaven") calls attention to the source of the "newness of life." Stagg writes that the word "again" does not include the source of the new kind of beginning
2. More than personal improvement is needed. "...a new destiny requires a new origin, and the new origin must be from God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian)
Finally I understand that it's about resurrection. To me it means that everybody has to die first then be resurrected by God to access Heaven or Hell depending on everyone's deeds and decisions while on earth. We must have faith in our only Savior which is God.
I am not implying that you don't correctly understand this meaning of "being born again" but, many people misunderstand what it takes to "be born again" or how we get to be sons and daughters of God or inherit The Kingdom of God and have Eternal Life in Heaven with God (the father) and Jesus (Son of both Man and God the father.)
Many people misunderstand and assume it takes works or deeds here on earth and that is how we get salvation and eternal life in heaven.
That is very far from the truth.
If the scripture below is read in full and we see that Jesus is saying to us what is needed out of his own mouth and then John tells us again what is needed, I interpret that to be:
Being "born again" is crusifying ones "flesh" everyday and turning away from sin, turning instead towards Jesus and having a "personal relationship with him"
"Believing" in him (Jesus) and he will acknowledge us before God (The father) in heaven.
We must be "born of water" Baptized in water, John baptized Jesus.
I have been baptized in a lake in Redding, Ca in 1994, I was an adult so it is different than sprinkling water on a baby.
Being "born again in spirit" our spirit inside of us, and the Holy Spirit which guides us if we are listening and we know him... God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit.
It is "Faith" and "Belief" in "Jesus" that he died for our sins and paid the Price (of our Gift of Eternal Life in Heaven from Our God The Father) if we choose it and turn from Evil and back towards Good, Jesus, God and live a more rightgeous life.
Peace
:ugeek:
This is in what religions diverge sometimes ;) and sorry if I may shock you :cry: (I know it does sometimes when I tell that to people :? ) but this is what I truly believe in, so I will put it here. In the Quran it is written that Jesus did not really died on the cross, that he has not been crucified for real but that it has been shown to them as if. In reality God saved Jesus from the hands of his enemis.
= Jesus did not suffered and I'm relieved to know that.
"They plotted and schemed, but so did God, and God is the best schemer. Thus, God said,
"O Jesus, I am putting you to death, and raising you to Me; I will save you from the disbelievers.''"
[ Quran 3:54-55 ]
Jesus' soul was raised, he was put to death prior to the arrest and crucifixion of his body. Thus, his persecutors arrested, tortured, and crucified an empty body - Jesus was already gone to the world of souls. Some even believe that it was a look-a-like but I don't know about that one...
Also I dont believe that Jesus sacrificed himself to save people from their sins as everybody is responsible for his/her deeds. Jesus is not responsible for the sins of others, he only was a Messenger, a Prophet sent by God to warn us.
I don't believe that Jesus was God in human body, nor that he his literally the son of God. He is a Prophet, a Messenger, a human being. God is too Almighty to have begotten a son and God cannot have come on Earth because we wouldn't have been able to survive by His Divine Presence, we must be purified before this happens = be born again = resurrection. Only believers will be able to see God.
"Whoever puts faith in me believes not so much in me as in Him who sent me; ..... For I have not spoken on my own; no, the Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to speak. Since I know that His commandment means eternal life, whatever I say is spoken just as He instructed me.'' [ John 12:44-50 ]
"I cannot do anything of myself. I judge as I hear, and my judgment is honest because I am not seeking my own will but the will of Him who sent me." [ John 5:30 ]
"...The man who hears my word and has faith in Him who sent me possesses eternal life.''
[ John 5:24 ]
"Whoever welcomes me welcomes, not me, but him who sent me."
[ Matthew 10:40, Mark 9:37, Luke 9:48, & John 13:20 ]
Jesus looked up to heaven and said, "...Eternal life is this: to know you, the only true God, and him whom you have sent, Jesus Christ.'' [ John 17:1-3 ]
"None of those who call me `Lord' will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven."
[ Matthew 7:21 ]
"God is my Lord and your Lord; you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."
[ Quran 3:51, 19:36, & 43:64 ]
"The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is the fleshly part. [Apocalypse of Peter, VII, 3, 81] This one just made me cry.
Really to me salvation, eternal life, Paradise passes by faith in God the Creator of the Universe. This is a universal message and this is the God of all of us. Of course we must also believe in all God's Prophets and Messengers because by having faith in them we follow their teachings, the teachings of God. I have a great admiration for Jesus and I deeply love him.
These are just my beliefs and I respect yours. I just wanted to share and I have no agenda ! :D
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thisisalmostit "To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
I understand that even the evidence has to be investigated. We musn't take things for granted and always scratch beyond the surface, even the surface of what seems to be the evidence.
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A new one:
John 3:7
Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
To be born again, is to be inwardly changed from all sinfulness to all holiness. It is fitly so called, because as great a change then passes on the soul as passes on the body when it is born into the world.
This is the verse 3 which gives more details:
John 3:3 (New International Version)
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
But the translation from Greek is apparently not accurate. I found this:
"Jesus Christ used the "birth" analogy in tracing spiritual newness of life to a divine beginning. Contemporary Christian theologians have provided explanations for "born from above" being a more accurate translation of the original Greek word transliterated. Theologian Frank Stagg cites two reasons why the newer translation is significant:
1. The emphasis "from above" (implying "from Heaven") calls attention to the source of the "newness of life." Stagg writes that the word "again" does not include the source of the new kind of beginning
2. More than personal improvement is needed. "...a new destiny requires a new origin, and the new origin must be from God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_Christian)
Finally I understand that it's about resurrection. To me it means that everybody has to die first then be resurrected by God to access Heaven or Hell depending on everyone's deeds and decisions while on earth. We must have faith in our only Savior which is God.
I am not implying that you don't correctly understand this meaning of "being born again" but, many people misunderstand what it takes to "be born again" or how we get to be sons and daughters of God or inherit The Kingdom of God and have Eternal Life in Heaven with God (the father) and Jesus (Son of both Man and God the father.)
Many people misunderstand and assume it takes works or deeds here on earth and that is how we get salvation and eternal life in heaven.
That is very far from the truth.
If the scripture below is read in full and we see that Jesus is saying to us what is needed out of his own mouth and then John tells us again what is needed, I interpret that to be:
Being "born again" is crusifying ones "flesh" everyday and turning away from sin, turning instead towards Jesus and having a "personal relationship with him"
"Believing" in him (Jesus) and he will acknowledge us before God (The father) in heaven.
We must be "born of water" Baptized in water, John baptized Jesus.
I have been baptized in a lake in Redding, Ca in 1994, I was an adult so it is different than sprinkling water on a baby.
Being "born again in spirit" our spirit inside of us, and the Holy Spirit which guides us if we are listening and we know him... God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit.
It is "Faith" and "Belief" in "Jesus" that he died for our sins and paid the Price (of our Gift of Eternal Life in Heaven from Our God The Father) if we choose it and turn from Evil and back towards Good, Jesus, God and live a more rightgeous life.
Peace
:ugeek:
This is in what religions diverge sometimes ;) and sorry if I may shock you :cry: (I know it does sometimes when I tell that to people :? ) but this is what I truly believe in, so I will put it here. In the Quran it is written that Jesus did not really died on the cross, that he has not been crucified for real but that it has been shown to them as if. In reality God saved Jesus from the hands of his enemis.
= Jesus did not suffered and I'm relieved to know that.
"They plotted and schemed, but so did God, and God is the best schemer. Thus, God said,
"O Jesus, I am putting you to death, and raising you to Me; I will save you from the disbelievers.''"
[ Quran 3:54-55 ]
Jesus' soul was raised, he was put to death prior to the arrest and crucifixion of his body. Thus, his persecutors arrested, tortured, and crucified an empty body - Jesus was already gone to the world of souls. Some even believe that it was a look-a-like but I don't know about that one...
Also I dont believe that Jesus sacrificed himself to save people from their sins as everybody is responsible for his/her deeds. Jesus is not responsible for the sins of others, he only was a Messenger, a Prophet sent by God to warn us.
I don't believe that Jesus was God in human body, nor that he his literally the son of God. He is a Prophet, a Messenger, a human being. God is too Almighty to have begotten a son and God cannot have come on Earth because we wouldn't have been able to survive by His Divine Presence, we must be purified before this happens = be born again = resurrection. Only believers will be able to see God.
"Whoever puts faith in me believes not so much in me as in Him who sent me; ..... For I have not spoken on my own; no, the Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to speak. Since I know that His commandment means eternal life, whatever I say is spoken just as He instructed me.'' [ John 12:44-50 ]
"I cannot do anything of myself. I judge as I hear, and my judgment is honest because I am not seeking my own will but the will of Him who sent me." [ John 5:30 ]
"...The man who hears my word and has faith in Him who sent me possesses eternal life.''
[ John 5:24 ]
"Whoever welcomes me welcomes, not me, but him who sent me."
[ Matthew 10:40, Mark 9:37, Luke 9:48, & John 13:20 ]
Jesus looked up to heaven and said, "...Eternal life is this: to know you, the only true God, and him whom you have sent, Jesus Christ.'' [ John 17:1-3 ]
"None of those who call me `Lord' will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven."
[ Matthew 7:21 ]
"God is my Lord and your Lord; you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."
[ Quran 3:51, 19:36, & 43:64 ]
"The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is the fleshly part. [Apocalypse of Peter, VII, 3, 81] This one just made me cry.
Really to me salvation, eternal life, Paradise passes by faith in God the Creator of the Universe. This is a universal message and this is the God of all of us. Of course we must also believe in all God's Prophets and Messengers because by having faith in them we follow their teachings, the teachings of God. I have a great admiration for Jesus and I deeply love him.
These are just my beliefs and I respect yours. I just wanted to share and I have no agenda ! :D
:ugeek:
Me, I am NOT offended. :| aka shocked... :shock:
But, I would be more concerned with offending God. ;)
My opinion. ^^^^^^^^
Sarahli,
I will respect you and your belief and opinion and I am done with this topic after I respond with my opinion.
Ok.. so lets agree to disagree and we will find out the TRUTH in the end. ;)
BTW, I don't have a title to a religious belief nor am I taught by a Religion. I don't go to church, I don't read the Bible everyday or often, when I find info like this, it is always because I am lead by The Holy Spirit.
John 3
3 Jesus answered him, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, that unless a person is born again (anew, from above), he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the kingdom of God.
5 Jesus answered, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, unless a man is born of water and [even] the Spirit, he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God.
6 What is born of [from] the flesh is flesh [of the physical is physical]; and what is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not [do not be surprised, astonished] at My telling you, You must all be born anew (from above).
11 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, We speak only of what we know [we know absolutely what we are talking about]; we have actually seen what we are testifying to [we were eyewitnesses of it]. And still you do not receive our testimony [you reject and refuse our evidence--that of Myself and of all those who are born of the Spirit].
12 If I have told you of things that happen right here on the earth and yet none of you believes Me, how can you believe (trust Me, adhere to Me, rely on Me) if I tell you of heavenly things?
Peace
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Im_convincedmjalive, it's ok. God bless you.
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New Tweet:
"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation".
Finally, a quote from Michael Jackson! :D
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" love is the most wonderful God could create "
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation".Beautifully said Michael.
A new era is coming, an era where we can truly love from the soul and not let prejudices divide us. This is true love, pure love. Exciting !
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Latest twitter
"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
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Latest twitter
"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
Can anyone find the source of this quote? I'm not seeing it. :|
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Latest twitter
"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
Can anyone find the source of this quote? I'm not seeing it. :|
The Truth
What if half the things ever said turned out to be a lie?
How will you know the truth?
If you were given all the answers when you stopped to wonder why
But how will you know the truth?
Everybody's got a right to love
Everybody's got a right to lie
But the choice you make, it ain't no piece of cake
It ain't no motherfuckin' piece of pie
What if time's only reason was to give us all somethin' to fear?
And if so, y'all, the end of the journey's so clear
Questionnaire - "What did you stand for?"
Questionnaire - "Who did for save?"
When it gets right down to it
Wait a minute
When it gets right down to the nitty of the gritty
When it gets right down to it
Did you take more than you gave?
Everybody's got a right to love
Everybody's got a right to lie
But the choice you make, it ain't no piece of cake
It ain't no motherfuckin', motherfuckin' piece of pie!
Mm, well
Gotta tell the truth, y'all, gotta tell the truth! {x3}
If there was just one day when everybody told the truth
We'd all trade bank accounts and move to Neptune
~ Prince
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@ Serenitys_Dream -- Thankyou!
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"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
I often ask myself this question because in my quest for the truth I realize that even what seems to be the truth is not the truth in reality. The truth is not always the opposite of the lie, it's not black or white, it's not as easy and there are a lot of false prophets playing a double game in which message lies are diluted in truths. So how can someone make the difference between a lie and a truth ? By basing ourselves only on the evidence, the rest is only speculations and should not be considered as the ultimate truth.
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The lie is a ghost that never leave you in peace, while only you know the truth... and this does not mean that we have to tell the truth but doing things with honesty .
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by Sarahli » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:35 am
thisisalmostit "To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
I understand that even the evidence has to be investigated. We musn't take things for granted and always scratch beyond the surface, even the surface of what seems to be the evidence.
Yup! Because ignorance is bliss!
"Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril." --Oscar Wilde
New Tweet:
"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation".
Finally, a quote from Michael Jackson! :D
One of my favorite quote by MJ. This is why I have it at the bottom of my siggie. Love is the most important thing in the world. God is Love :D ! Blessings to all
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"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
I often ask myself this question because in my quest for the truth I realize that even what seems to be the truth is not the truth in reality. The truth is not always the opposite of the lie, it's not black or white, it's not as easy and there are a lot of false prophets playing a double game in which message lies are diluted in truths. So how can someone make the difference between a lie and a truth ? By basing ourselves only on the evidence, the rest is only speculations and should not be considered as the ultimate truth.
I agree. We have to go deeper than surface. These last 4/5 tweets all seem to go together, clarifying the collective message. MJ loves God's Word the Bible, but he sees a bigger picture, that is LOVE--God's love. That will ultimately unfold, after all the messy history of humanity with Satan's half truths woven into the fabric is done. The consumation of all, the restoration, when all shall be made new again. The Etch-a-stetch is shaken and we start again with a clean slate.
I also agree with you Sarahli that John 3:7 is also talking about resurrection and the glorified bodies we will receive, as well as a change of heart. John 12:24
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit."
Interesting the quote about half being a lie. God might not be lying or capable, but He assignes Satan to do the lying half and gets away with it. It's all a giant drama and the Bible is part of the plot. IMO
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"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
I often ask myself this question because in my quest for the truth I realize that even what seems to be the truth is not the truth in reality. The truth is not always the opposite of the lie, it's not black or white, it's not as easy and there are a lot of false prophets playing a double game in which message lies are diluted in truths. So how can someone make the difference between a lie and a truth ? By basing ourselves only on the evidence, the rest is only speculations and should not be considered as the ultimate truth.
I agree. We have to go deeper than surface. These last 4/5 tweets all seem to go together, clarifying the collective message. MJ loves God's Word the Bible, but he sees a bigger picture, that is LOVE--God's love. That will ultimately unfold, after all the messy history of humanity with Satan's half truths woven into the fabric is done. The consumation of all, the restoration, when all shall be made new again. The Etch-a-stetch is shaken and we start again with a clean slate.
I also agree with you Sarahli that John 3:7 is also talking about resurrection and the glorified bodies we will receive, as well as a change of heart. John 12:24
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit."
Interesting the quote about half being a lie. God might not be lying or capable, but He assignes Satan to do the lying half and gets away with it. It's all a giant drama and the Bible is part of the plot. IMO
I don't know who said that but Satan is in the detail especially with the believers but God protects those who seek for His protection so there is nothing to be worried about. I see it like that: we are here on earth because of our polytheistic tendencies. God gave us a second chance to repent that's why we are here. God is testing us, is testing our faith in Him and allowed Satan, who thought that he could be a god, to lead astray those who hesitated to reject Satan's claim when in Heaven, and who now on earth do not seek for God, those who think arrogantly that they are sufficient to themselves, those who straight worship Satan.
As God is all about Justice and Truth, Satan is the contrary, injustice and lies. He is wise enough to melt the two so that in final he is the winner because The Truth must be clear and pure not tainted with lies. If people are served half-truths can we say that they have the truth or even a part of it ? I would say no because a single lie insidiously hidden within the truth don't make it a truth anymore. That's why I say and feel that the evidence is the key. Only the evidence can make something be stamped as being a truth.
Now what about the evidence ? It makes me remember the theory of evolution (Darwin). When we used to learn it at school I remember that the teacher used to show us "evidences", like pictures of skulls and skeletons, even man made drawings of "creatures" half-monkey half-man in caverns...it makes me laugh today because these are no way evidences. Even one of the skull has been fabricated by Darwin to support his claims and is now known to be a fake but this has been discovered many years later only, which means that for a long period of time Darwin duped people with a fake evidence. http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html (http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html)
But I asked myself why did Darwin so wanted his theory to be true ? If it is not an inspiration of Satan...
There isn't always an answer for everything so I follow this rule: as my Guidance is God, things which do not contrary His message are "Ok". I always try to see things in this perspective.
I know that a lot of people in the Christian world think that there is only one way. A lot of Muslims also think the same and a lot of Jews too. But I don't. I deeply believe that everyone who seeks God whatever way it is will find an answer from God and God will guide him/her in the right way and there's not only one. We are billions of people in this planet, with different traditions, languages, cultures, there can't be just one way leading to God. Well this is just my opinion.
I know that Michael reads the Bible and is more familiar with it and it's message. This is his hoax and the Bible, through TS posts, is a part of it and I deeply respect that. I myself want to learn what is in the Bible. I just hope that Michael doesn't mind if sometimes I quote the Quran... :oops:
"Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner—unless they transgress—and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our God and your God is one and the same; to Him we are submitters." (29:46) Quran.
God bless you Mjonmind I love your open mind and tolerance. :D
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New Tweet:
"Ready for a new paradigm?"
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Greek Paradeima PARADIGMA = model, type, sample. A paradigm is the result of the uses and customs, established beliefs of truths half a paradigm is law, until it is superseded by another. The paradigms have imposed us them the gods first, and then we we we created others to hold the first, and so on.
If I'm ready, ... I want to know
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New Tweet:
"Ready for a new paradigm?"
Paradigm
The word paradigm refers to a dynamic field or "world" of concepts —such that it represents a union between intelligent inquiry and some particular kind of world view. The term has been used in linguistics and science to describe distinct concepts. It comes from Greek (paradeigma), "pattern, example, sample" from the verb (paradeiknumi), "exhibit, represent, expose" and that from (para), "beside, by" + (deiknumi), "to show, to point out".
Until the 1960s, the word was specific to grammar: the 1900 Merriam-Webster dictionary defines its technical use only in the context of grammar or, in rhetoric, as a term for an illustrative parable or fable. In linguistics, Ferdinand de Saussure used paradigm to refer to a class of elements with similarities.
From the 1960s onward, the word has referred to thought pattern in any scientific discipline or other epistemological context. The Merriam-Webster Online dictionary defines this usage as "a philosophical and theoretical framework of a scientific school or discipline within which theories, laws, and generalizations and the experiments performed in support of them are formulated; broadly : a philosophical or theoretical framework of any kind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm
Paradigm shift
Paradigm shift (or revolutionary science) is the term first coined by Thomas Kuhn in his influential book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (1962) to describe a change in basic assumptions within the ruling theory of science. It is in contrast to his idea of normal science.
Since the 1960s, the term has been found useful to thinkers in numerous non-scientific contexts. Compare as a structured form of Zeitgeist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift
Zeitgeist
Zeitgeist ( listen) is "the spirit of the times" or "the spirit of the age." Zeitgeist is the general cultural, intellectual, ethical, spiritual, and/or political climate within a nation or even specific groups, along with the general ambiance, morals, sociocultural direction or mood of an era.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist
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My interpretation: Ready for a dramatic shift in the way the world perceives or looks at things. New age, an upsidedown world, new aion, presuppositions changed, revolutionary change, orthodox considered backward and an unforeseen way of thinking becomes the generally accepted norm, the very building blocks of society and tools of gaining knowledge are replaced with something else, the very revered elite may be replaced by the ones at the bottom, the pyramid inverted...
Something BIG is going to happen. The best is yet to come. And everything else Michael said! :D
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by Sarahli » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:35 am
thisisalmostit "To dismiss something without an investigation of the evidence is the height of ignorance."
I understand that even the evidence has to be investigated. We musn't take things for granted and always scratch beyond the surface, even the surface of what seems to be the evidence.
Yup! Because ignorance is bliss!
"Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril." --Oscar Wilde
New Tweet:
"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation".
Finally, a quote from Michael Jackson! :D
One of my favorite quote by MJ. This is why I have it at the bottom of my siggie. Love is the most important thing in the world. God is Love :D ! Blessings to all
Yes it is, I am so connected with what you just said... There is nothing more important than LOVE, without it we our souls are dead.
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New Tweet:
"Ready for a new paradigm?"
It's interesting that you especially quoted this tweet because your nic is meaningful mjintrigue2012...
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who is TIAI?
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New Tweet:
"Ready for a new paradigm?"
It's interesting that you especially quoted this tweet because your nic is meaningful mjintrigue2012...
@Sarahli -- lol -- I guess I was taking a risk when I set up my mjintrigue2012 name. I used it to set up my first YT account. It was soon after I saw "This Is It". I was truly intrigued by Michael's comment about "4 years" to get it right. It seems my gamble may have turned out right! Love to you.
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New Tweet:
"Ready for a new paradigm?"
It's interesting that you especially quoted this tweet because your nic is meaningful mjintrigue2012...
@Sarahli -- lol -- I guess I was taking a risk when I set up my mjintrigue2012 name. I used it to set up my first YT account. It was soon after I saw "This Is It". I was truly intrigued by Michael's comment about "4 years" to get it right. It seems my gamble may have turned out right! Love to you.
Right there's no coincidence! Much love to you :)
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New Tweet "The Law of Time" see http://www.13moon.com/LAW%20OF%20TIME.htm (http://www.13moon.com/LAW%20OF%20TIME.htm)
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New Tweet "The Law of Time" see http://www.13moon.com/LAW%20OF%20TIME.htm (http://www.13moon.com/LAW%20OF%20TIME.htm)
Sorry, to be completely accurate the Tweet is "Law of time"
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:ugeek:
http://www.lawoftime.org/home.html (http://www.lawoftime.org/home.html)
Something else to review and consider. ;)
Peace
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:ugeek:
http://www.lawoftime.org/home.html (http://www.lawoftime.org/home.html)
Something else to review and consider. ;)
Peace
I visited the site and one thing caught my attention. I made a dream about 13:20, I dreamt that I was receiving a grade for my "work" here in the forum :lol: (surely a reference to the test that TS told us about but the weird thing is that I made this dream before TS' update... :? ) and this grade I received was a 13/20...lol I don't know if it's connected but well it's interesting :lol:
Timeship Earth 2013
"Earth is a timeship, voyaging through galactic time. Every single one of us, whether we are aware of it or not, is a galactic kin upon this timeship. Up until now we might have thought it was “spaceship Earth.” But that is only because we were in the wrong time – we didn’t know what time really was!
The meaning of 2012 lies in our waking up to the actual nature of time. Once this occurs we will see that time is the fourth dimension, that Earth is not a spaceship but a timeship, and that the purpose of operating in the 13:20 frequency of galactic time is to transform the planet into a work of art. We are aboard the timeship to learn and practice the planetary art of galactic time. The first stage of this is the rainbow bridge.
Timeship Earth 2013 is how we navigate the new evolutionary cycle - the noosphere, the time of universal peace, harmony and telepathy. By 2013, Earth will no longer be operating in the 12:60 frequency, but in the natural 13:20 frequency of synchronization. To advance the coming of the new time of harmony, the call is put out for the Harmonic Convergence of 2012, synchronized celebrations at sacred sites around the world during 2012. This planetary awakening will be the conclusion to the Harmonic Convergence of 1987, and the appropriate groundwork for entry into Timeship Earth 2013."
http://www.lawoftime.org/timeshipearth.html (http://www.lawoftime.org/timeshipearth.html)
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This all so interesting. Just a few thoughts that went through my mind.
1. :arrow: This site mentions 1000 days before Dec. 21, 2012 are important. In the song This Is It, MJ sings: And I feel as though I've known you for a 1000 years. And in Revelation it talks about the thousand year reign of Christ on earth as idealic, but He rules with a rod of iron.
2. :arrow: Sarahli I liked your post about us being on Timeship Earth rather than Spaceship Earth. We know God is outside of Time. Einstein's theory was that time was affected by speed of travel. Apparantly scientists have confirmed that the universe is expanding, becoming larger, from the original "big bang" at creation or beginning of time, so called. We are expanding, revolving with the Milky Way Galaxy, orbiting the sun, and spinning in the 24 hour cycle.
The Bible mentions that in endtimes the anti-Christ or last evil king will change time (measurement of time?) Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
But then Daniel talks about God being the One who creates and is in control of time. Daniel 2:20-22 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what [is] in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
3. :arrow: When I was 16, I read a certain book that literally threw me for a loop and planted a seed that stayed dormant for many years. I had to reject it because it didn't fit with my strict Christian upbringing. But then later I read UFO's and the Bible and that brought the two together as a possibility. As an older adult I have gotten into many deeper themes including the MJ hoax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods%3F (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods%3F)
Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past is a book written in 1968 by Erich von Däniken. It involves the hypothesis that the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by space travelers who were welcomed as gods. These ideas have been largely rejected by historians and scientists. The tomb of Mayan ruler Pakal (603-683 CE) in Palenque, Mexico. Interpreted by Daniken as depicting an astronaut in his spaceship.The existence of structures and artifacts have been found which represent higher technological knowledge than is presumed to have existed at the times they were manufactured. Däniken maintains that these artifacts were produced either by extraterrestrial visitors or by humans who learned the necessary knowledge from them. Such artifacts include the Egyptian pyramids, Stonehenge, and the Moai of Easter Island. Further examples include a medieval map known as the Piri Reis Map, allegedly showing the Earth as it is seen from space, and the Nazca lines in Peru, which he explains as landing strips for an airfield. (I think that though some evidence of what he writes about might not be reliable, there may be much he has not included that has been discovered since then.)
4. :arrow: http://www.galactic-server.com/c45d8621k/ (http://www.galactic-server.com/c45d8621k/)
This is a site of supposed talks with spirits or aliens, but what really interests me is the section of excellent arial photographs of crop circles by years they occurred. Check it out. I totally believe they are not man-made. Other sites debunk the theory that some people pranksters can make them. They may hold messages in mathematical code. These two crop circles were reported on June 24 and 25th of 2009, in England.[attachment=1:31etax2h]corn1224[1].jpg[/attachment:31etax2h][attachment=0:31etax2h]corn1225[1].jpg[/attachment:31etax2h]
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The Law of Time is a universal law and principle. It states that time is the universal factor of synchronization. It states That time is the universal factor of synchronization.
The Law of Time distinguishes between a natural timing frequency that governs the universal order, and an artificial timing frequency which sets modern human civilization apart from the rest of its environment, the biosphere.
The effect of basing a civilization on artificial timing factors - an irregular calendar and the mechanical clock - has resulted in the creation of an artificial global mantle, the technosphere . By consuming natural resources faster than they can be replaced and creating more waste than can be eliminated, the technosphere operates at the expense of the biosphere. Hence, the current global crisis.
The Law of Time affirms that all of the planetary upheavals and social chaos that we are experiencing today are directly related to giving precedence to human laws and machine technology, rather than divine order and natural law. The Law of Time That affirms all of the planetary and Social Upheavals That chaos we are experiencing today are directly related to Giving precedence to human Laws and machine technology, Rather Than natural law and divine order. This is due to living a collective misperception of time known as the 12:60 frequency. This refers to the 12 month cycle of the irregular Gregorian calendar paced by the 60 minute clock.
Living in artificial time disconnects us Both Individually and as a species from our true nature. We always feel like we never have “enough time.” In the 12:60 frequency, time is money . Always We feel like we never have "enough time." In the 12:60 frequency, time is money. In the 13:20 frequency, time is art . In the 13:20 frequency, time is art .
The ratio of the natural 13:20 timing frequency coded Into The Tzolkin - the 260-unit harmonic matrix. The 13:20 frequency can also be found in our body: we have 13 main articulations and 20 fingers and toes .
The Law of Time That affirms by the nature of the universal timing frequency Already the world is as one. It is only humankind who has chosen separation. This separation is reinforced by separation in time, living by the clock and the irregular measure of the Gregorian calendar keeps the world from being as one.
The Law of Time states that: Energy factored by time equals art. In this equation, (E) refers to all phenomena in their processes of unfoldment; (T) is the present moment functioning according to the ratio constant 13:20. In this equation, (E) Refers to all phenomena in Their Process of unfoldment, (T) is the present moment Functioning According To the constant ratio 13:20. Everything shaped by time is art. Everything is art shaped by time
http://www.lawoftime.org/lawoftime.html (http://www.lawoftime.org/lawoftime.html)
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Yes MJonmind the universe is in a constant state of change and can only be expanding itself and this is what science concluded, they just don't say what is this necessary force expanding the universe...
Time is not absolute, it's just that God made it so on earth and we live our lives according to the sun and the moon, the night and the day.
Like you said God is out of our time, and a day for us is like 1000 for God.
2 Peter 3
8. But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
9. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Peter+3&version=NIV)
22:47 They challenge you to bring retribution, and GOD never fails to fulfill His prophecy. A day of your Lord is like a thousand of your years.
Pilgrimage, Quran
70:4 The angels, with their reports, climb to Him in a day that equals fifty thousand years.
The Heights, Quran
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura70.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura70.html)
I understand that a day within the Kingdom of God equals 1000 of our reckoning here on earth and it takes 15000 years of our reckoning for the angels to travel from heaven to earth and so the contrary. Time is relative indeed.
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New Tweet thisisalmostit "People better start looking back: dates, times, names,better see those coincidence ,it's all there for you to see,if your eyes are open."
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New Tweet thisisalmostit "People better start looking back: dates, times, names,better see those coincidence ,it's all there for you to see,if your eyes are open."
This tweet looks almost like an old one:
"People better start looking back: dates, times, names, they better see those coincidences...it's all there for you to see" 2:14 AM May 10th via web
There are no coincidences at this point and things have been put in place on purpose, maybe we should look back... deeper...
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viewtopic.php?f=60&t=10921 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=10921)
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http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=10921
Thanks truthseeker. I guess that you're reply is about the date of 23rd August 2005 (Michael was acquitted in June and on the 23rd the mother of the accuser was charged with fraud), put in paralell with the hoax it can refer to Murray's preliminary hearing on the 23rd of August 2010. It's then an important date, something important should happen. Wonder what exactly...maybe this will be the begining for the truth to unfold publicly, to be more obvious...or maybe that we will have a major clue, a revelation...we'll see God willing.
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God hears you Sarahli ;)
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God hears you Sarahli ;)
I hope so Paula. God bless you.
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Oh yes Paula-C and Sarahli well said! ;) God bless you
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Oh yes Paula-C and Sarahli well said! ;) God bless you
God bless you too Lilou. :)
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New tweet: Sirius
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New tweet: Sirius
Brightest star in the sky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius)
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The best time of year for observation of sirius is situated in the middle of January, when reaches the meridian at midnight.
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The best time of year for observation of sirius is situated in the middle of January, when reaches the meridian at midnight.
Maybe there is a link between "observation of Sirius in the middle of January" and the trial,which will takes place in January ...
Maybe the end is planned for January ..
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[youtube:3co2yoa5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUvrEgS5Vqw[/youtube:3co2yoa5]
top left corner
(i'm sirius!)
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"This occurred just before the annual flooding of the Nile and the summer solstice,[17] after a 70-day absence from the skies.[18] The hieroglyph for So this features a star and a triangle. So this was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a trinity with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolised the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).[18]"
I thought this part was interesting as we can see the reference to "70 days" ( Murrays court dates), "isis" (This Is It) and a "triangle"( pyramid) More "coincidences"? :mrgreen:
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[youtube:1dsr3ftg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUvrEgS5Vqw[/youtube:1dsr3ftg]
top left corner
(i'm sirius!)
Interesting there is even a star !
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New tweet
"Lisa Johansen"
I think it's about the woman who pretends to be the real Lisa Marie Presley.
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If she is, ... is where we will have to take with this?
Is this the reason why PML does not live in America?
URL=http://img192.imageshack.us/i/bookilisamarie.jpg/](http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6452/bookilisamarie.jpg)[/URL]
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Well, who knows! but LMP is a clon of Elvis :roll:
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Well, who knows! but LMP is a clon of Elvis :roll:
Yes LMP :? really looks like to Elvis..it's incredible..
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If she is, ... is where we will have to take with this?
Is this the reason why PML does not live in America?
URL=http://img192.imageshack.us/i/bookilisamarie.jpg/](http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6452/bookilisamarie.jpg)[/URL]
I really don't know what to think about this and I don't really understand the reason why a fake LMP would have replaced the real one? Also I don't understand why LMP (at least the one we think is the real deal) doesn't want to give her DNA regarding Eliza Presley's case? :| Can it be the reason? :? Nooo :lol: Or? :? :roll: :| :arrow:
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If she is, ... is where we will have to take with this?
Is this the reason why PML does not live in America?
URL=http://img192.imageshack.us/i/bookilisamarie.jpg/](http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6452/bookilisamarie.jpg)[/URL]
I really don't know what to think about this and I don't really understand the reason why a fake LMP would have replaced the real one? Also I don't understand why LMP (at least the one we think is the real deal) doesn't want to give her DNA regarding Eliza Presley's case? :| Can it be the reason? :? Nooo :lol: Or? :? :roll: :| :arrow:
Don't know too lol..i really want to know how it's possible to replace somebody..!LMP (the one we think is the real) really looks like to her father..Maybe she doesn't want to justify herself,Micheal tried to justify hisemlf many times and people continue to treat him badly today again..even if the truth is revealed
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New tweet: Ophiuchus
31 minutes ago via web
http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html (http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html)
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Ophiuchus is the 13th Sign of the Zodiac and a constellation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus
I have found a video on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hWhesr8jQQ
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"What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?"
I often ask myself this question because in my quest for the truth I realize that even what seems to be the truth is not the truth in reality. The truth is not always the opposite of the lie, it's not black or white, it's not as easy and there are a lot of false prophets playing a double game in which message lies are diluted in truths. So how can someone make the difference between a lie and a truth ? By basing ourselves only on the evidence, the rest is only speculations and should not be considered as the ultimate truth.
I agree. We have to go deeper than surface. These last 4/5 tweets all seem to go together, clarifying the collective message. MJ loves God's Word the Bible, but he sees a bigger picture, that is LOVE--God's love. That will ultimately unfold, after all the messy history of humanity with Satan's half truths woven into the fabric is done. The consumation of all, the restoration, when all shall be made new again. The Etch-a-stetch is shaken and we start again with a clean slate.
I also agree with you Sarahli that John 3:7 is also talking about resurrection and the glorified bodies we will receive, as well as a change of heart. John 12:24
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit."
Interesting the quote about half being a lie. God might not be lying or capable, but He assignes Satan to do the lying half and gets away with it. It's all a giant drama and the Bible is part of the plot. IMO
I don't know who said that but Satan is in the detail especially with the believers but God protects those who seek for His protection so there is nothing to be worried about. I see it like that: we are here on earth because of our polytheistic tendencies. God gave us a second chance to repent that's why we are here. God is testing us, is testing our faith in Him and allowed Satan, who thought that he could be a god, to lead astray those who hesitated to reject Satan's claim when in Heaven, and who now on earth do not seek for God, those who think arrogantly that they are sufficient to themselves, those who straight worship Satan.
As God is all about Justice and Truth, Satan is the contrary, injustice and lies. He is wise enough to melt the two so that in final he is the winner because The Truth must be clear and pure not tainted with lies. If people are served half-truths can we say that they have the truth or even a part of it ? I would say no because a single lie insidiously hidden within the truth don't make it a truth anymore. That's why I say and feel that the evidence is the key. Only the evidence can make something be stamped as being a truth.
Now what about the evidence ? It makes me remember the theory of evolution (Darwin). When we used to learn it at school I remember that the teacher used to show us "evidences", like pictures of skulls and skeletons, even man made drawings of "creatures" half-monkey half-man in caverns...it makes me laugh today because these are no way evidences. Even one of the skull has been fabricated by Darwin to support his claims and is now known to be a fake but this has been discovered many years later only, which means that
for a long period of time Darwin duped people with a fake evidence. http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html
But I asked myself why did Darwin so wanted his theory to be true ? If it is not an inspiration of Satan...[/color]
There isn't always an answer for everything so I follow this rule: as my Guidance is God, things which do not contrary His message are "Ok". I always try to see things in this perspective.
I know that a lot of people in the Christian world think that there is only one way. A lot of Muslims also think the same and a lot of Jews too. But I don't. I deeply believe that everyone who seeks God whatever way it is will find an answer from God and God will guide him/her in the right way and there's not only one. We are billions of people in this planet, with different traditions, languages, cultures, there can't be just one way leading to God. Well this is just my opinion.
I know that Michael reads the Bible and is more familiar with it and it's message. This is his hoax and the Bible, through TS posts, is a part of it and I deeply respect that. I myself want to learn what is in the Bible. I just hope that Michael doesn't mind if sometimes I quote the Quran... :oops:
"Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner—unless they transgress—and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our God and your God is one and the same; to Him we are submitters." (29:46) Quran.
God bless you Mjonmind I love your open mind and tolerance. :D
I can't speak about Darwin's motives. I mean, what he thought he had to gain by promoting a lie. I do believe that he was simply deceived by the same deceiver who tags us all at various times, for his own :twisted: purposes.
ONE of his purposes with the theory :P :lol: of Evolution, was (and is, still) to devalue the human spirit and soul. If we all came from monkeys, or worse, some nondescript :roll: sea slime, then we are just another form of animal--with no grander purpose than to meet bodily needs on a daily basis. Food, water, shelter, kill or be killed, in order to survive another minute---for...what??
The highest functioning animal, (I believe the biggest brain belongs to the parrot, but haven't studied this in decades) has NO understanding of morality, that there even is right or wrong; has NO hopes, plans, or dreams cherished in his heart; has no theories about Life or the Universe (forget about mathematics or music!) or EVEN other animals!!
The Human being, however, designed by God, infused at conception, with a soul and a supernatural spirit exactly in the image of the Creator, and unlimited possibilities, :idea: 8-) :D ---now THAT is something else. THAT is something to be reckoned with. It is God's crowning Glory, the object of His affection, and a threat to every devil. God gave the planet to US. Satan means to get us to destroy each other, so that he can have it, and one-up God. Unquestioned valuing of Human LIFE as PRICELESS is at the very heart of the matter.
Without this, euthanazia, abortion and all violence committed against one another, are just population thinning measures; "survival of the fittest", and all that CRAP. (actually 'survival of the most alert' and "aware". Some certain very "fit" persons, who happened to have been compromised by their own prescription drugs, become as helpless as the fetuses being scraped out of wombs on a daily basis.). With it, these actions are horrific elective murders. :!:
It all comes down to whether or not human life is worth anything. Or if ALL human life or just certain (stronger, more ambitiously self-preserving) elite?
You know, don't you, that before the "theory of evolution :P :P " was taught in schools, there wasn't the widespread violence of kids killing kids, and parents and kids killing each other, and parents killing the former "love of their life" over some custody issue (which, really, is more about money than priceless, precious, big eyed little Johnny or Suzy...) Life used to be absolutely precious, when we thought we were made in GOD's image... :mrgreen:
Most people valued other people. Even criminals didn't always KILL their victims...
Thinking persons, who valued God's heart and thoughts and Word, valued everyone.
People who harm other people just don't get it how valuable humans--every single one--even the most severely handicapped human beings, who seem to be able to contribute little or nothing to society, are.
Every single human being is here on this planet, by design. HE wants us here for some purpose :D . There are things going on spirit to Spirit, that NO one knows about except the spirit of the man within. Yet, PEOPLE are being drugged and placed on[ :P :P :roll: :!: ] "life support" (because the drugs---like morphine, propofol, etc...--- suppress the ability to breathe on one's own) and systematically, arbitrarily, unplugged (to their detriment: murdered), DAILY, WITH, incidentally, the permission sometimes, of the deceived families...
All because of some doctrine of devils, the theory of evolution. :x :(
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The soul is in the brain.
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The soul is in the brain.
No argument :)
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New tweet: Ophiuchus
31 minutes ago via web
http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html (http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html)
I'm not sure how I quite ended up @ Nostradamus, but I did!
First, a little background on this man -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus).
Now, Nostradamus linked to Ophiuchus. These vids are from a series on the History Channel, titled "Lost Book of Nostradamus" (2007):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0CHi1RXX0; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0CHi1RXX0;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm6qCHCvjo; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm6qCHCvjo;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI).
For the record, I don't believe that the world is going to end in 2012! I'm more of the conciousness-shifting ilk!
@finfin, @Lilou -- thanks for your information.
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New tweet: Ophiuchus
31 minutes ago via web
http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html (http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html)
I'm not sure how I quite ended up @ Nostradamus, but I did!
First, a little background on this man -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus).
Now, Nostradamus linked to Ophiuchus. These vids are from a series on the History Channel, titled "Lost Book of Nostradamus" (2007):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0CHi1RXX0; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0CHi1RXX0;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm6qCHCvjo; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm6qCHCvjo;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI).
For the record, I don't believe that the world is going to end in 2012! I'm more of the conciousness-shifting ilk!
@Lilou -- thanks for your information.
thank you for yours,and,also,i don't believe in this theory !
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@ Its her agree with you but I am sure that this theory of evolution comes from the devil, I know people don't take it seriously and always laugh at me when I say that but to me Darwin has been inspired by Satan, who else? The worst in this story is that this theory is teached as if it was the utlimate truth and most people really believe that we are parents with monkeys. :| I always reply but why are there still monkeys then? Why these didn't evolve and are perfectly capable to live? They cannot answer.
And this theory of evolution is not only about the human beings/monkeys evolution but also regarding the evolution of animals themselves as to say that there is no God who would have created perfect animals from the very start but that these animals had to evolve and adapt themselves to be able to survive. Theory totally false, everything that is has to be conceived by an intelligence, like a car has to be conceived by a group of people, a computer, a building etc., so the same for living creatures. Life on earth cannot have appeared by meer chance.
I will just finish by saying that I consider life as being sacred. @Gema The mystery of the soul has not been discovered by anyone and will maybe never be. The soul I would say is energy and energy never dies. The brain is what connects our soul to this world, when disconnected (death) we are freed from this world and our soul raises above.
God bless you Its her.
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New tweet: Ophiuchus
31 minutes ago via web
http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html (http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html)
Please read the link, information about Ophiuchus being the 13th sign of the zodiac, physician and Egyptian connections
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Ophiuchus - interesting! and finfin gave the link to http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html (http://the-red-thread.net/ophiuchus2.html) Here Betty Rhodes links Ophiuchus to Imhotep to Joseph in Genesis. She starts off with,
"the constellation, Ophiuchus, has been known since ancient times, and is better known as Serpentarius, the Serpent Holder."
I've done study in the past on Joseph being the much loved Egyptian Imhotep, the healer and dream interpreter. There are many similarities to Michael Jackson. His second name is Joe/Joseph, he is a dreamer, favorite of his father, brothers jealous of him, him becoming ruler and then testing his brothers for their true love, and more. Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, is clearly a type of later Christ, the Messiah, sinse he rises through his suffering, to become the second in command over all Egypt, second to the Pharoah, and there's more similarities. Jesus, suffered on the cross, is seated at the right hand of the throne of God, second in command in the Universe. The Bible says that eventually we, as the heirs, will be seated with Christ, at the right hand of the throne of God. Here is Michael holding one of his many snakes.[attachment=0:1c8jg2tp]jackson_snake_g_380[1].jpg[/attachment:1c8jg2tp]
This is part of a longer post I made, if you want to read it all - viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12085&p=200492&hilit=joseph+genesis#p200492 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12085&p=200492&hilit=joseph+genesis#p200492)
I will tell you the BIG picture as I see it, the most briefest without going into to much detail. God, the Creator of the Universe, Spirit, indeed loves humanity and has a special role for each person. There is no such thing as free choice. He is the ultimate Man behind the curtain. He has orchestrated all of history, and it is His story. All history is a huge drama, a story, with actors and actresses. He assigned Satan as the adversary, much like Judas Iscariot was assigned the betrayor. We, including Satan, may not be aware of it being Him who moves us to makes us think we choose. He is in complete control of ALL things. "We live and move in Him and have our being." He has said in several verses that He is the originator of evil or calamity, and in the end we will understand it was all for the good of humanity, all for LOVE. Much like the story of Joseph, when his brothers sold him to slavery and eventually he became the second in command over all of Egypt (remember that also in parallel to MJ), and said to his brothers, "You meant it for evil, but God meant if for good, to save many lives." Genesis. I believe the Bible to be God's word, spoken through humans, though I believe much is cryptic, and God has deliberately cloaked much of it, by tranlation issues, etc. Even Jesus is Yahshuah, the Hebrew, not Greek. The original Israelites, and Jesus were black-skinned (see Hebrewisraelites.org ) God has a lot of twists and turns in His story, wouldn't want to call them lies, but hoaxes Himself, all for the story. He loves a good story just like we all do. There are some twists at the end as well. Because He is the originator of good and evil, just assigns the characters, He can make the ending the way He wishes. I personally believe all literature, world religions, modern movies whatever are also God speaking through our creativity of bits of His plan.
And another one:
Re: Julien's catalogue:"Survival food" on handwritten notes
by MJonmind » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:45 pm
I tried to decipher the words but only got so far. Is someone good with handwriting? Maybe that's why they took the cement to neverland. They're building an underground storage or living compound for possible future bad scenario.
This sparks a vague thought I had a while back. Maybe with all the emphasis on Joe or Joseph in his name, there is a direction to the Joseph in the Bible, where the story parallels Michael. He has 11 siblings, favored by his father which makes his brothers jealous. They sell him into slavery, but have a mock death of him by killing a goat, covering Joseph's coat in blood and deceiving their father. Joseph is hired in Egypt, falsely accused making advances at his master's wife, in prison 2 years, his ability to interpret dreams brings him to second in command in all of Egypt. There he immediately begins storage of food (harvested in 7 years of plenty) in vast granaries for 7 years of famine ahead. His famous verse spoken to his brothers who basically had to bow to him as Pharoah 2nd in command when he finally revealed himself (BAM), "You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good, to save many people alive," Genesis 50:20 interesting numbers. Also the number of Joseph's family that moved to Egypt was 70 (Genesis 46:27). If anyone wanted to take the story further there are probably many other parallels cause it goes into a lot more detail. Joseph is always seen throughout the Bible as a picture of Christ, just as Michael is.
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@ Its her agree with you but I am sure that this theory of evolution comes from the devil, I know people don't take it seriously and always laugh at me when I say that but to me Darwin has been inspired by Satan, who else?
And what do you base your Satan theory on?
The worst in this story is that this theory is teached as if it was the utlimate truth and most people really believe that we are parents with monkeys. :| I always reply but why are there still monkeys then? Why these didn't evolve and are perfectly capable to live? They cannot answer.
Because different spices (branches) evolved, others developed and other were extinguished.
To be short in a veeeery long subject;
The "monkeys" as people call them, had a genetical jump, a genetical mistake that made the muscles of the side of the face to dissapear, so the skull developed in the way that looks today and the brain got bigger.
And this theory of evolution is not only about the human beings/monkeys evolution but also regarding the evolution of animals themselves as to say that there is no God who would have created perfect animals from the very start but that these animals had to evolve and adapt themselves to be able to survive. Theory totally false, everything that is has to be conceived by an intelligence, like a car has to be conceived by a group of people, a computer, a building etc., so the same for living creatures. Life on earth cannot have appeared by meer chance.
WhÖÖt????? :shock:
I will just finish by saying that I consider life as being sacred. @Gema The mystery of the soul has not been discovered by anyone and will maybe never be. The soul I would say is energy and energy never dies. The brain is what connects our soul to this world, when disconnected (death) we are freed from this world and our soul raises above.
The soul, I would say, it´s our psychology, our personality and our memories, all that, makes ones soul.
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When astrologers laid the foundations for the Zodiac of twelve signs, Ophiuchus was a constellation that was hidden or not passing by the ecliptic, and therefore was not considered a sign of the zodiac. However, the phenomenon of the precession of the equinoxes did that currently this constellation Scorpio and Sagittarius, passing through the ecliptic.
It is found near the center of the Galaxy, opposite to the area of Orion constellation... The Mayans considered the area of the belt of Orion as a resurrection, or the heart of the creation. A place to which the Maís Dios (what mankind?) is directed in a canoe (the solar system? what Earth?) from the underworld (the center of the Galaxy?). Astronomically solar system makes a cyclical journey through the Galaxy, and in these times is coming increasingly at the Centre.
Mythological perspective, Ophiuchus was a character with very specific characteristics. Son of a God and a human, with large capacity for healing, which could even resurrect the dead.
Maybe the Sun at the time of the birth of Jesus was passing through Ophiuchus, and that this would be the zodiac sign of the. In fact some miracles attributed to Jesún included healing the sick and resurrect the dead.
This could perhaps be an element of hope within all forecasts of chaos, war, penalties and destruction. Leaving aside the religious and astrological point of view, and still somewhat neutral or secular, there are many coincidences that point to that "the end of time" is nearby. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it is "the end of the world". It is perhaps only the tragic end of an era decadent, following which continues a cycle of evolution which leads to a different stage, maybe better.
And the interesting thing about this is that you so you may live, because it seems the 21 or 22 December 2012. In fact it we are living longer, because "horsemen of the Apocalypse" are now present: the desire of conquest, war, famine and death. This what we see in the current situation in the world every day we see the news. If there is any truth in all matches found in the Mayan prophecies, the predictions of Nostradamus and the Apocalypse, among other similar sources, perhaps only has until very poorly time that bottomed in these negative so that eventually the good the last battles emerges victorious situations.
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I've heard of the 13th sign before! =D
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Thanks for bringing the evolution quarrel up.
I am saddened to have had to read what I had to read about Darwin and evolution.
Look at only yourself and how God has led you through all steps of evolution from your first day on earth until this precious moment now. How much grace and love did He give to you to make that evolutionary journey in your body, soul and spirit happen.
God is not on the opposite of evolution. God accompanies evolution and let it happen and supports it for the better. This is not putting out black or white just as we are not black or white but ALL ONE.
Darwin was meant to happen and so he served to bring new knowledge to mankind. He was only one striving for new knowledge about the origins of mankind. Same applies to the myth of the flat earth. There were hundreds of people striving for truth about it all over the planet for centuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth
Btw, it was Alfred Russel Wallace who proposed the "evolution theory" first, not Darwin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace
Apes and human beings belong to the same family origins of primates.
This has been proven by many evidences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
What is wrong with that? Nothing at all. I am fond of being a sister to apes. They are wonderful creatures and not only Bubbles proved that. And if you consider human soul and spirit being "above" animal or plant soul and spirit then you have missed a lot of rich experiences to date.
More important in this discussion:
questioning an evolutionary context will put into question DNA relevance to prove the natural inheritance origin of a person.
Evolution in organisms occurs through changes in heritable traits – particular characteristics of an organism. In humans, for example, eye color is an inherited characteristic and an individual might inherit the "brown-eye trait" from one of their parents. Inherited traits are controlled by genes and the complete set of genes within an organism's genome is called its genotype.
The complete set of observable traits that make up the structure and behavior of an organism is called its phenotype. These traits come from the interaction of its genotype with the environment. As a result, many aspects of an organism's phenotype are not inherited. For example, suntanned skin comes from the interaction between a person's genotype and sunlight; thus, suntans are not passed on to people's children. However, some people tan more easily than others, due to differences in their genotype; a striking example are people with the inherited trait of albinism, who do not tan at all and are very sensitive to sunburn.
Heritable traits are passed from one generation to the next via DNA, a molecule that encodes genetic information. DNA is a long polymer composed of four types of bases. The sequence of bases along a particular DNA molecule specify the genetic information, in a manner similar to a sequence of letters spelling out a sentence. Before a cell divides, the DNA is copied, so that each of the resulting two cells will inherit the DNA sequence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Thus Eliza's case based on DNA evidence and potential relations to MJ's case would be a needless and even (as stated in some posts and I take it to the logic peak) "satanic" undertaking.
Do we believe in this? I don't.[/b]
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Thanks for bringing the evolution quarrel up.
I am saddened to have had to read what I had to read about Darwin and evolution.
Look at only yourself and how God has led you through all steps of evolution from your first day on earth until this precious moment now. How much grace and love did He give to you to make that evolutionary journey in your body, soul and spirit happen.
God is not on the opposite of evolution. God accompanies evolution and let it happen and supports it for the better. This is not putting out black or white just as we are not black or white but ALL ONE.
Darwin was meant to happen and so he served to bring new knowledge to mankind. He was only one striving for new knowledge about the origins of mankind. Same applies to the myth of the flat earth. There were hundreds of people striving for truth about it all over the planet for centuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth
Btw, it was Alfred Russel Wallace who proposed the "evolution theory" first, not Darwin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace
Apes and human beings belong to the same family origins of primates.
This has been proven by many evidences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
What is wrong with that? Nothing at all. I am fond of being a sister to apes. They are wonderful creatures and not only Bubbles proved that. And if you consider human soul and spirit being "above" animal or plant soul and spirit then you have missed a lot of rich experiences to date.
More important in this discussion:
questioning an evolutionary context will put into question DNA relevance to prove the natural inheritance origin of a person.
Evolution in organisms occurs through changes in heritable traits – particular characteristics of an organism. In humans, for example, eye color is an inherited characteristic and an individual might inherit the "brown-eye trait" from one of their parents. Inherited traits are controlled by genes and the complete set of genes within an organism's genome is called its genotype.
The complete set of observable traits that make up the structure and behavior of an organism is called its phenotype. These traits come from the interaction of its genotype with the environment. As a result, many aspects of an organism's phenotype are not inherited. For example, suntanned skin comes from the interaction between a person's genotype and sunlight; thus, suntans are not passed on to people's children. However, some people tan more easily than others, due to differences in their genotype; a striking example are people with the inherited trait of albinism, who do not tan at all and are very sensitive to sunburn.
Heritable traits are passed from one generation to the next via DNA, a molecule that encodes genetic information. DNA is a long polymer composed of four types of bases. The sequence of bases along a particular DNA molecule specify the genetic information, in a manner similar to a sequence of letters spelling out a sentence. Before a cell divides, the DNA is copied, so that each of the resulting two cells will inherit the DNA sequence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Thus Eliza's case based on DNA evidence and potential relations to MJ's case would be a needless and even (as stated in some posts and I take it to the logic peak) "satanic" undertaking.
Do we believe in this? I don't.[/b]
I don't know to whom you answered exactly but I feel I'm also a target :? . I think that you have misunderstood what I've tried to say. Let's forget the Satan part because it always gives the same kind of answers and I have no proof that it's right.
What is wrong with this theory is not the fact that things can evolve, I don't say that things cannot change because God can perfectly do it and does it and programmed it, all forms of life can actually adapt themselves. This is really not the point. Your example of a baby becoming an adult does not fall into the category of Darwin (or Wallace) theory, to me there is a difference between a monkey becoming a man and a baby becoming a man or a woman. They say that we are parents with monkeys. Take two books of the same size and the same number of pages, the story inside is completely different. This is how we are parents with monkeys. I have nothing against monkeys by the way :lol:
I agree that there're changes within a species but a species becoming a completely new one without an intelligence behind :?, the cells or molecules cannot just gather together by themselves and be a new thing without a conception.
I have not understood your comment on the DNA and its relevance here. What you have explained is inheritance not evolution. I would just say that according to evolutionists the DNA, would be the result of a series of biochemical accidents and mutations, excuse me but even if I'm not a scientist DNA is so complex that it just cannot be the result of coincidences...plus, this kind of thinking lead many to think that some 'races' where superior than others, ya know natural selection...of course DNA can prove parental links and I don't know why you say satanic undertaking? This is God who created this life programming and every individual has a unique code. DNA is something extraordinary to me and proves that God created all things, this is the proof that things don't happen by meer chance and that life is not the result of unguided natural selection. DNA proves that Darwin theory is fake. DNA is the mark of God within us. DNA is fantastic! :D
The theory of evolution is just claiming that there is no God and that everything came by chance and selection, that is 'evolution'. Not all scientists agree with it, it is not the ultimate truth, yes it's just a theory.
I think it's really worth to give examples:
The evolutionists claim that birds are descendants of reptiles but are incapable to explain the colossal differences between these two species and have not proven it. Birds at first sight are completely different than reptiles. I will just focus on their feathers. It makes me think of the saying "light as a feather" and this in a way describes the perfection of the complex structure of a feather. For that a bird can fly this part is very important, crucial and it cannot be the result of a hazardous evolution. No it has to be thought and evolution is against that. For a bird to be able to fly its feathers must have been the same from the very start or he couldn't be able to fly or it wasn't a bird. Another example is the sonar of a bat, it is so perfect that it is millions of times more efficient than man-made sonars, can it really be the result of evolution?
Well I'll end here I just believe in adaptation and creationism = in God, not in the Darwin and Co. theory of evolution. Yes Darwin was meant to be but to misguide people in my opinion.
[youtube:idpdfvvr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqm0jCIMSgY&feature=related[/youtube:idpdfvvr]
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I don't know to whom you answered exactly but I feel I'm also a target :? . I think that you have misunderstood what I've tried to say. Let's forget the Satan part because it always gives the same kind of answers and I have no proof that it's right.
What is wrong with this theory is not the fact that things can evolve, I don't say that things cannot change because God can perfectly do it and does it and programmed it, all forms of life can actually adapt themselves. This is really not the point. Your example of a baby becoming an adult does not fall into the category of Darwin (or Wallace) theory, to me there is a difference between a monkey becoming a man and a baby becoming a man or a woman. They say that we are parents with monkeys. Take two books of the same size and the same number of pages, the story inside is completely different. This is how we are parents with monkeys. I have nothing against monkeys by the way :lol:
I agree that there're changes within a species but a species becoming a completely new one without an intelligence behind :?, the cells or molecules cannot just gather together by themselves and be a new thing without a conception.
I have not understood your comment on the DNA and its relevance here. What you have explained is inheritance not evolution. I would just say that according to evolutionists the DNA, would be the result of a series of biochemical accidents and mutations, excuse me but even if I'm not a scientist DNA is so complex that it just cannot be the result of coincidences...plus, this kind of thinking lead many to think that some 'races' where superior than others, ya know natural selection...of course DNA can prove parental links and I don't know why you say satanic undertaking? This is God who created this life programming and every individual has a unique code. DNA is something extraordinary to me and proves that God created all things, this is the proof that things don't happen by meer chance and that life is not the result of unguided natural selection. DNA proves that Darwin theory is fake. DNA is the mark of God within us. DNA is fantastic! :D
The theory of evolution is just claiming that there is no God and that everything came by chance and selection, that is 'evolution'. Not all scientists agree with it, it is not the ultimate truth, yes it's just a theory.
I think it's really worth to give examples:
The evolutionists claim that birds are descendants of reptiles but are incapable to explain the colossal differences between these two species and have not proven it. Birds at first sight are completely different than reptiles. I will just focus on their feathers. It makes me think of the saying "light as a feather" and this in a way describes the perfection of the complex structure of a feather. For that a bird can fly this part is very important, crucial and it cannot be the result of a hazardous evolution. No it has to be thought and evolution is against that. For a bird to be able to fly its feathers must have been the same from the very start or he couldn't be able to fly or it wasn't a bird. Another example is the sonar of a bat, it is so perfect that it is millions of times more efficient than man-made sonars, can it really be the result of evolution?
Well I'll end here I just believe in adaptation and creationism = in God, not in the Darwin and Co. theory of evolution. Yes Darwin was meant to be but to misguide people in my opinion.
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Amen!!!! :ugeek:
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Opiuchus -- if the 13 sun signs are used, Michael Jackson is then a "Leo"!
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Opiuchus -- if the 13 sun signs are used, Michael Jackson is then a "Leo"!
What's your actual astrological sign?
The astrological signs used these days are 2000 years out of date. The reason is due to the slow, 25,800 year wobble (precession) of Earth's rotation axis.
The traditional linking of birthdays and birth signs suggests the sun spends about 30 days crossing each of the 12 zodiacal constellations. The truth is that there are really 13 constellations that the sun "drifts" through along it's path in the sky (the ecliptic). Another truth is that they are not equal in duration.
They vary from 6 days to 45 days.
Below is a table describing the actual 13 zodiacal constellations. The reason the column "Actual (2000 AD)" includes the same ending day of one as the beginning day of the next is that the movement of the sun from one constellation to another happens during the day, not at the actual end of the day. In the old, traditional one each sign has the same time span.
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Someone could use the actual zodiac to produce an up-to-date astrological chart to continue to fool the gullible. The drawbacks are that it would be much more complicated with all the different time durations and the "bad" number 13 would have to be used.
Much of this information comes from the magazine "Sky and Telescope" June/98
http://members.shaw.ca/tfrisen/Science/astrolog.htm
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Hi Grace,
I glean all my information/truth from the Word of God. 8-) :D I am very grateful for everything He has given or done for me! I don't trust anything else, especially "evidences" which can be :idea: fabricated by man, without test, so, this is the field I have to "play" on, when discussing "theories". (I think, though, that the "argument" has been settled. The theory doesn't fly and there are people banding together to get the fiction extracted from the textbooks, right now, despite the cost...we'll see how far the NWO let them get.)
I thought I would just share some truth I found, too. With you, because something you said :o sparked the thoughts, and with anyone else who likes the truth, or at least food for thought. :D
The Word of God states that there is one kind of flesh of Man, and a different kind of flesh of beasts. The two DNA are incompatible with one another. Completely. 8-)
Not only is it impossible for Man to have descended from beasts, he is unable to produce offspring with beasts.
It has been finally proven that Darwin doctored his "evidence".
According to Socrates, if enough questions are asked, the facts will come out. People were so hungry for something new, they were ripe for deception. The THEORY of Evolution dazzled people, and they simply did not or were too angry to think to ask the right or enough questions at first.
Bubbles :) was a man's pet. He has no sensibilities about being his own man or fulfilling ANY aspirations of his own, as humans do. It is not IN him to explain any theory or to question anything. Even if he COULD talk, and lived a million centuries, he would NEVER ask the question "Why?" It is not IN him to care.
He hasn't, now, even the wherewithal to live in the wild amongst his own species, because he is what the Bible calls a "brute (unspohisticated; without understanding) beast", which means, once domesticated, he is ruined for survival in his own natural environment.
For all the joy he brought to MJ and his family as an infant (and I do get his fascination ;) , I DO) ; as a teenager, his bite could kill or seriously disfigure, and as an adult he has the vise grip of an 800 pound bouncer, with the understanding and self-control :cry: of a "Terrible Twos" toddler. This animal is NOT a companion animal. :shock: (I thank God I didn't get attached to a baby one. I couldn't have given him up, and I'd be dead now...)
The Higher Functioning (Man), is able to adapt to any environment.
The ape is not my sister, or my neighbor. Just different species, fellow tenants of Earth. But, :) YOU are. :) There is where I am richer for it.
It is not an insult to differentiate creation by higher and lower functioning beings. :) It is simply the fact of the matter. :| We each have different assignments. :)
Bubbles and all of my own well loved animals, also, are what you could call "limited liability models" of being. They were created with limited capacity BY DESIGN, so as to have limitations in how they could be used by any demon to wreak havoc in the lives of humans. They are not able to plot or plan, speak lies or make false friends with humans. They are not able to interfere with or usurp the good or evil plans of Man.
We have quite enough iniquity :roll: from each other. Imagine the chaos of never knowing which barnyard or domestic animal was selling your personal business to the tabloids, or phoning in gossip to your place of employment, or messing with your wife or kids, or bank account... (no, I am not being silly; demons HATE us! They will use anything. Remember the snake in the garden?).
God planned that there would only be ONE species with the power of intelligent speech and will, which would rule over and dominate the others. If anything goes wrong here, it is ALL because of Man.
All animals are completely innocent. They cannot be held responsible; they have been given NO authority.
I didn't mention this before, but one of the evils of evolution's "survival of the fittest", and "natural selection" themes, is that it accommodates (and will enable future) slavery. This evil didn't originate with the formal T.o.E., but Darwin's" modern" scientific tweaking of the theory, encouraged the damnable LIE that the dominion God gave to Man, righteously included dominating other MEN---
(WHICH IT DOES NOT) :!:
It fostered thought in certain people, that everyone and anyone who "appeared" to be inferior to the self-appointed superior, WERE inferior and rightfully belonged at the tail end of everything... This is ALL arbitrarily based on "evidence" of their (highly evolved) five senses--mostly sight--of those who deem themselves to be "Naturally, Evolutionally " in charge...
If anyone thinks we have made great strides in the advancement of Freedom, think again. This is the calm before the storm. There are those who have decided they WILL rule over us, no matter what, and have had MANY tentacled plans in the works for decades (just what I personally know about, and, actually, probably the reason for this Death Hoax).
It is in KNOWING who you ARE, which determines whether you will be dominated or not. I am a child of the Most High, made in His image, which means I am a SPEAKING spirit, able to control my own destiny, at will. The ONLY "slavery" I will ever go along with is one who becomes a slave to Love, as the bible speaks of. This is when one loves SOmuch they will set aside their preference for the loved one. By choice. Only. This is honorable. It is not dehumanizing or humiliating. It is a pleasure to serve.
He has stated His Guidelines (Commandments, actually ;)) but it is TOTALLY up to me whether I submit my self to Him. After all, He cannot judge me, or hold me responsible for that which I have no authority to do otherwise. (And we already KNOW there is a judgment coming. The world has been cruisin'...for a long time.)
I DO submit myself to Him out of sheer LOVE and worship of His Wonderfulness :!: It is because I am FREE that it is genuine!
Knowing [/size][/color] that you are made in the image of GOD, and not as an AFTERTHOUGHT, a second attempt at improving the animal kingdom, makes you value everything more. It lines everything up.
KNOWING you were designed ON PURPOSE, for and by Love, and not in some cosmic explosion, makes you realize you are someone magical, important to the Plan. :mrgreen: You BELONG here. You are loved. It makes ALL the difference in the world, whether you see yourself as the spittin' image of God, as His child of purpose, or some cosmic accident, and probably taking up space, and in the way, here....
You take better care of your animals, because you realize they are nothing like us at all.
They are something else. Sometimes just pure love.
With special needs.
And, they need us to care for their world. The bible says a righteous man is kind to his beast. "Righteous" being simply in good standing/relationship with the Almighty. Kindness tells more about you than them, because humans can do or not do this on purpose. When we have compassion on "dumb animals", it is not because they are less intelligent. It is because they have less authority. They have less options. They are speechless. They CAN'T make things happen or fix what is broken. They can't dream or read, or enjoy a good story read to them...they can't wipe away your tears, or offer advice, like a sister or parent---all they can do is pace around you helplessly, :( :| anxious that you're in pain.
God does let things UNFOLD according to His plans and our own. But not by evolution---by will. By CHOICE. In God's plan, things blossom and grow; wax and wane; tides go out and come in. Things He made to be ONE thing, NEVER change into OTHER THINGS.
NEVER.
Apes don't become people---they become old apes.
If you don't believe me, that evolution theory is a step down (to slavery & the NWO), check this out:
REMEMBER how easily people went from believing that conceiving a new baby human was a blessing from God and hope for the world to continue ----to believing that what is conceived is something OTHER THAN a new human baby, which now :? requires some decision to be made, before it "turns into" a human...?
It somehow ( :twisted: through DOUBLE SPEAK) became a piece of "tissue", "nothing human" (even though, if left to term, will never EVER be anything else BUT a human baby :!: ) . It is NOT something else. It is not something non-human which will EVOLVE into a human eventually, no matter WHAT science ("so called"), or the law of the land, say.
Whatever creature it is, it is for all time. We are inside time. God is outside time. He sees the entire picture, beginning to end. We see things linearly, in increments. Some would have us believe that if the pregnacy is interrupted in one of the increments at the beginning, there was no human baby. :roll:
He knows
who he placed in that womb.
From The Way You Make Me Feel 8-) video:
"BE yourself. You CAN'T be nobody else." It is the TRUTH for every creature. :mrgreen:
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Opiuchus is the thirteenth sign, .. according to the chart virgo'm no scorpion. :mrgreen:
As Mahatma Gandhi said, the error does not become really because it is spread and sometimes multiplied a lie spreads and becomes truly for many.
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So that would knock me down to Sagittarius instead of Capricorn and then my rising sign may be Scorpio instead of Sagittarius, lolz. :lol: :lol:, if 13th sign is really what's good.
So, why isn't this sign recognized? BTW, I heard about a 13th sign once before reading these recent posts. :) :?:
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Hi Grace,
I glean all my information/truth from the Word of God. 8-) :D I am very grateful for everything He has given or done for me! I don't trust anything else, especially "evidences" which can be :idea: fabricated by man, without test, so, this is the field I have to "play" on, when discussing "theories". (I think, though, that the "argument" has been settled. The theory doesn't fly and there are people banding together to get the fiction extracted from the textbooks, right now, despite the cost...we'll see how far the NWO let them get.)
I thought I would just share some truth I found, too. With you, because something you said :o sparked the thoughts, and with anyone else who likes the truth, or at least food for thought. :D
The Word of God states that there is one kind of flesh of Man, and a different kind of flesh of beasts. The two DNA are incompatible with one another. Completely. 8-)
Not only is it impossible for Man to have descended from beasts, he is unable to produce offspring with beasts.
It has been finally proven that Darwin doctored his "evidence".
According to Socrates, if enough questions are asked, the facts will come out. People were so hungry for something new, they were ripe for deception. The THEORY of Evolution dazzled people, and they simply did not or were too angry to think to ask the right or enough questions at first.
Bubbles :) was a man's pet. He has no sensibilities about being his own man or fulfilling ANY aspirations of his own, as humans do. It is not IN him to explain any theory or to question anything. Even if he COULD talk, and lived a million centuries, he would NEVER ask the question "Why?" It is not IN him to care.
He hasn't, now, even the wherewithal to live in the wild amongst his own species, because he is what the Bible calls a "brute (unspohisticated; without understanding) beast", which means, once domesticated, he is ruined for survival in his own natural environment.
For all the joy he brought to MJ and his family as an infant (and I do get his fascination ;) , I DO) ; as a teenager, his bite could kill or seriously disfigure, and as an adult he has the vise grip of an 800 pound bouncer, with the understanding and self-control :cry: of a "Terrible Twos" toddler. This animal is NOT a companion animal. :shock: (I thank God I didn't get attached to a baby one. I couldn't have given him up, and I'd be dead now...)
The Higher Functioning (Man), is able to adapt to any environment.
The ape is not my sister, or my neighbor. Just different species, fellow tenants of Earth. But, :) YOU are. :) There is where I am richer for it.
It is not an insult to differentiate creation by higher and lower functioning beings. :) It is simply the fact of the matter. :| We each have different assignments. :)
Bubbles and all of my own well loved animals, also, are what you could call "limited liability models" of being. They were created with limited capacity BY DESIGN, so as to have limitations in how they could be used by any demon to wreak havoc in the lives of humans. They are not able to plot or plan, speak lies or make false friends with humans. They are not able to interfere with or usurp the good or evil plans of Man.
We have quite enough iniquity :roll: from each other. Imagine the chaos of never knowing which barnyard or domestic animal was selling your personal business to the tabloids, or phoning in gossip to your place of employment, or messing with your wife or kids, or bank account... (no, I am not being silly; demons HATE us! They will use anything. Remember the snake in the garden?).
God planned that there would only be ONE species with the power of intelligent speech and will, which would rule over and dominate the others. If anything goes wrong here, it is ALL because of Man.
All animals are completely innocent. They cannot be held responsible; they have been given NO authority.
I didn't mention this before, but one of the evils of evolution's "survival of the fittest", and "natural selection" themes, is that it accommodates (and will enable future) slavery. This evil didn't originate with the formal T.o.E., but Darwin's" modern" scientific tweaking of the theory, encouraged the damnable LIE that the dominion God gave to Man, righteously included dominating other MEN---
(WHICH IT DOES NOT) :!:
It fostered thought in certain people, that everyone and anyone who "appeared" to be inferior to the self-appointed superior, WERE inferior and rightfully belonged at the tail end of everything... This is ALL arbitrarily based on "evidence" of their (highly evolved) five senses--mostly sight--of those who deem themselves to be "Naturally, Evolutionally " in charge...
If anyone thinks we have made great strides in the advancement of Freedom, think again. This is the calm before the storm. There are those who have decided they WILL rule over us, no matter what, and have had MANY tentacled plans in the works for decades (just what I personally know about, and, actually, probably the reason for this Death Hoax).
It is in KNOWING who you ARE, which determines whether you will be dominated or not. I am a child of the Most High, made in His image, which means I am a SPEAKING spirit, able to control my own destiny, at will. The ONLY "slavery" I will ever go along with is one who becomes a slave to Love, as the bible speaks of. This is when one loves SOmuch they will set aside their preference for the loved one. By choice. Only. This is honorable. It is not dehumanizing or humiliating. It is a pleasure to serve.
He has stated His Guidelines (Commandments, actually ;)) but it is TOTALLY up to me whether I submit my self to Him. After all, He cannot judge me, or hold me responsible for that which I have no authority to do otherwise. (And we already KNOW there is a judgment coming. The world has been cruisin'...for a long time.)
I DO submit myself to Him out of sheer LOVE and worship of His Wonderfulness :!: It is because I am FREE that it is genuine!
Knowing [/size][/color] that you are made in the image of GOD, and not as an AFTERTHOUGHT, a second attempt at improving the animal kingdom, makes you value everything more. It lines everything up.
KNOWING you were designed ON PURPOSE, for and by Love, and not in some cosmic explosion, makes you realize you are someone magical, important to the Plan. :mrgreen: You BELONG here. You are loved. It makes ALL the difference in the world, whether you see yourself as the spittin' image of God, as His child of purpose, or some cosmic accident, and probably taking up space, and in the way, here....
You take better care of your animals, because you realize they are nothing like us at all.
They are something else. Sometimes just pure love.
With special needs.
And, they need us to care for their world. The bible says a righteous man is kind to his beast. "Righteous" being simply in good standing/relationship with the Almighty. Kindness tells more about you than them, because humans can do or not do this on purpose. When we have compassion on "dumb animals", it is not because they are less intelligent. It is because they have less authority. They have less options. They are speechless. They CAN'T make things happen or fix what is broken. They can't dream or read, or enjoy a good story read to them...they can't wipe away your tears, or offer advice, like a sister or parent---all they can do is pace around you helplessly, :( :| anxious that you're in pain.
God does let things UNFOLD according to His plans and our own. But not by evolution---by will. By CHOICE. In God's plan, things blossom and grow; wax and wane; tides go out and come in. Things He made to be ONE thing, NEVER change into OTHER THINGS.
NEVER.
Apes don't become people---they become old apes.
If you don't believe me, that evolution theory is a step down (to slavery & the NWO), check this out:
REMEMBER how easily people went from believing that conceiving a new baby human was a blessing from God and hope for the world to continue ----to believing that what is conceived is something OTHER THAN a new human baby, which now :? requires some decision to be made, before it "turns into" a human...?
It somehow ( :twisted: through DOUBLE SPEAK) became a piece of "tissue", "nothing human" (even though, if left to term, will never EVER be anything else BUT a human baby :!: ) . It is NOT something else. It is not something non-human which will EVOLVE into a human eventually, no matter WHAT science ("so called"), or the law of the land, say.
Whatever creature it is, it is for all time. We are inside time. God is outside time. He sees the entire picture, beginning to end. We see things linearly, in increments. Some would have us believe that if the pregnacy is interrupted in one of the increments at the beginning, there was no human baby. :roll:
He knows
who he placed in that womb.
From The Way You Make Me Feel 8-) video:
"BE yourself. You CAN'T be nobody else." It is the TRUTH for every creature. :mrgreen:
BRAVO, my sister, BRAVO!!! I agree with everything you said! :D I love you!
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It always amazes me how topics are so varied here; we're always going down branching rabbit holes. On the topic of evolution, that is one of the biggest debates between those who believe in a higher power, and atheists. I've always strongly defended creationism and read many books on the topic, but now I'm open to God using the processes of evolution in limited ways, starting with the big bang, or whatever it was that God started things off with. With God He could either create something gradually, or poof--instantly. I think both sides could learn from each other; there's truth in both camps I'm sure. I was always a 7-day creation and 6 thousand years old earth, kind of believer. But now I'm accepting that the universe is most likely incredibly old. One thing that has always amazed me is the age of the light that earth receives from the stars. We are only now receiving some light from distant galaxies that actually burned possibly billions of years ago. I've heard creationists explain that when God created lights on the 4th day, He enable man to see them instantly or created them with an appearance of age. Perhaps the creation verses are to be taken metaphorically, or some other way.
I do believe that the similarities between species simply shows the mark of the same Creator's design, not that they evolved into each other, and the gulf between even the most intelligent of animals and humans is completely vast. And I do hold to the Bible as the most important of all literature known to man.
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But it is truth of faith is that the human being has been done in the image of God, which means, among other things - that is a being with a spiritual soul, which has the capacity to know and to choose freely. That man is, intelligent and free: has understanding and desire.
Although the human body has come from an evolutionary process, God continues to be the creator of man, because he had to have created the evolutionary process, which is the human race.
In addition, whatever the origin of the human body, the human soul is a direct creation of God to every human being in the moment of its conception. The human soul can not be part of the evolutionary process.
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, God continues to be the creator of man,
What about MEN being the creators of the concept of GOD?? ;)
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The problem with the theory of evolution as Darwin understand it and explain it, is that it clearly denies the existence of a Creator without any proof, that it is teached as being the truth in schools despite the inconsistencies and huge lack of evidences and despite the fact that evolutionists themselves cannot answer many important questions and that it lead some of them to fabricate false evidences. This theory is made of speculations and lies, not facts and evidences. It shouldn't be teached at school because this is not a proven truth, far from it.
I introduced the evolution theory in here but it was not the main subject it was about this tweet "What if half the things ever said turned out 2 B a lie, how will you know the truth?" and I gave an example with this theory...maybe that this tweet had nothing to do with it :lol:
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Thank you, Sarahli and Its her, for your well said posts. God bless you. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2bwXLw ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2bwXLwhVs&feature=related)
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I think we could spend several days discussing this and would not reach any agreement by the beliefs of each one of us.
Gema, you're not a religious person? ;)
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I think we could spend several days discussing this and would not reach any agreement by the beliefs of each one of us.
Gema, you're not a religious person? ;)
Let´s say, that I question everything ;)
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I think we could spend several days discussing this and would not reach any agreement by the beliefs of each one of us.
Gema, you're not a religious person? ;)
Let´s say, that I question everything ;)
I know, right? 8-)
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, God continues to be the creator of man,
What about MEN being the creators of the concept of GOD?? ;)
It's a good question but I rather believe in the creation of organized religions because in my opinion religions have been corrupted, hijacked to serve men and not God but this is just my opinion people I repeat :D . Nevertheless I believe that faith in God cannot be a concept created by men because my faith in God is innate, this is how I live it. It's not a concept, it's not palpable, it's a feeling. Like love is not a concept created by men, it's a feeling we live. I consider faith as love. Now this feeling of love is real you know it exist even if you cannot 'see' it, so the same for faith in God and this faith in God consequently makes that God exists in His mystery. I don't know if I make myself clear my english is limited :? :lol: .
Now I understand your point of view and the corruption of religions today do not help God's cause unfortunately. But ask yourself these questions (if you have not already of course :) ). What if God really exists? What if believing in Him was crucial?
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What if God really exists? What if believing in Him was crucial?
We can´t prove that GOD exists but I firmly think that for some people, believing in GOD is neccesarely and I support that belief for whoever needs it.
I think that the power of the LOVE of GOD that many people experience and feel it is the salvation for many people.
The power of the concept of GOD is that GOD does not discriminate, that the love is pure and one can always feel peace, protection and love thanks to GOD.
If we think about it, GOD has been there always for us, it is our placebo, our help and hope. The LIGHT that leads us and comfort us when needed.
GOD´s LOVE is unconditional.
The human mind needed to create, imo, the concept of GOD to deal with LIFE.
We are our own GOD.
Let´s call it, human nature, survival, self love, care....
The human mind needs something to believe in in order to x-cape and find solutions, hope or clousure, love, care and understanding, and that, is the concept of GOD.
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What if God really exists? What if believing in Him was crucial?
We can´t prove that GOD exists but I firmly think that for some people, believing in GOD is neccesarely and I support that belief for whoever needs it.
I think that the power of the LOVE of GOD that many people experience and feel it is the salvation for many people.
The power of the concept of GOD is that GOD does not discriminate, that the love is pure and one can always feel peace, protection and love thanks to GOD.
If we think about it, GOD has been there always for us, it is our placebo, our help and hope. The LIGHT that leads us and comfort us when needed.
GOD´s LOVE is unconditional.
The human mind needed to create, imo, the concept of GOD to deal with LIFE.
We are our own GOD.
Let´s call it, human nature, survival, self love, care....
The human mind needs something to believe in in order to x-cape and find solutions, hope or clousure, love, care and understanding, and that, is the concept of GOD.
Ok thank you Gema for sharing your beliefs. God bless you :)
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Blessings back :*
(I am not a believer but I love to be blessed :D , gives me comfort ;) )
Thanks.
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Sarahli, once again I agree with you ;)
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New tweet:
"Signs and symbols, rule the World; not words, nor laws."
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New Tweet:
"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws."
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New Tweet:
"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws."
This is a Confucious quote.
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New Tweet:
"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws."
This is a Confucious quote.
"visual language reigned supreme before the invention of writing"
About Vigilant - from the Vigilant Citizen website
This timeless quote perfectly sums up the aims of this website. To understand the world we live in, we must understand the symbols surrounding us. To understand those symbols, we must dig up their origin, which is often found deeply hidden in occult mysteries. This site goes beyond the face value of symbols in pop culture to reveal their esoteric meaning.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?page_id=2
[youtube:gdpqkbbp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLH-aB6Ebm0[/youtube:gdpqkbbp]
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Another thought provoking message with ominous implications. :o Well it sure seems we are immersed in the signs and symbols in our culture everywhere. Behind them is a global organized power - the Illuminati, behind them the Prince of the power of the air-Satan. I'm amazed how TIalmostI, guides and teaches us just like TIAI.
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"Signs and symbols, rule the World; not words, nor laws."
And when signs and symbols rule the World we can say that there's a problem...no?
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And who are the laws and words?, Who will meet or who agree to comply?
All these signs are everywhere, even in our homes, a testament to the power of these people.
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
Because history always repeats itself. We are doomed... LOL :lol:
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
Define the future...the future already exists but due to our limited consciousness we have not or very limited access to it, only God knows the future which for Him is not really the future. Study the past is more feasible right and it can help us to define the future because some things tend to repeat themselves as if it was programmed, we cannot do much about it but at least we can be prepared to face it and consequently have less fear because it will be less unknown. Wonder if it's about 2012...surely mjintrigue2012 quoted this tweet, can't be a coincidence :lol:
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Or so we have to return back to see what they will come in the future. :?: ;)
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
This is a saying by Confucius and simply means that history repeats itself.
If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.
~ George Bernard Shaw
Social Cycle Theory
Social cycle theories are among the earliest social theories in sociology. Unlike the theory of social evolutionism, which views the evolution of society and human history as progressing in some new, unique direction(s), sociological cycle theory argues that events and stages of society and history are generally repeating themselves in cycles. Such a theory does not necessarily imply that there cannot be any social progress.
Law of Social Cycle
Law of Social Cycle, also known as the Social Cycle Theory, is a theory of human historical motivity based on "the ancient spiritual ideas of the Vedas". The theory was propounded by the Indian philosopher and spiritual leader Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar in the 1950s and expanded by Ravi Batra since the 1970s, Johan Galtung and Sohail Inayatullah since the 1990s and others
Four Types of People
The Law of Social Cycles is a theory of Varna, arising out of the Indian episteme (Inayatullah, 2002). This law states that while people in any society are all relatively similar, they have generally the same goals, desires and ambitions but differ in the way they go about achieving their goals. An individual's specific methods for achieving success depend on his physical and psychological makeup. Essentially, there are four different psychological types of people, warriors, intellectuals, acquisitors and labourers, who find basic fulfillment in four different kinds of ways.
Warriors
Warriors, or Kshatriya in Sanskrit, have strong bodies, vigorous physical energy and a sharp intellect. Warriors tend to develop the skills that take advantage of their inherent gifts of stamina, courage and vigor. Their mentality is one that is not averse to taking physical risks. Examples of people in our society with the warrior mentality include: policemen, firemen, soldiers, professional athletes, skilled carpenters and tradesmen, etc. They all achieve success through their physical skills and a deep understanding of their profession.
Intellectuals
Intellectuals, or Vipra, have a more developed intellect than the warriors, but generally lack the physical strength and vigor. Intellectuals are happiest when they try to achieve success by developing and expressing their intellectual skills and talents. Examples would be: Teachers, writers, professors, scientists, artists, musicians, philosophers, doctors and lawyers, and above all, priests.
Acquisitors
Acquisitors, or Vaishya, have a penchant for acquiring money. If money can be made the acquisitors will find a way to make it. They are not considered as bright as the intellectuals, nor as strong as the warriors, but they are keen when it comes to making and accumulating money and material possessions. Such people are the traders, businessmen, managers, entrepreneurs, bankers, brokers, and landlords in our society.
Laborers
Laborers, or Shudra, are altogether different from the first three groups. Laborers lack the energy and vigor of the warriors, the keen intellect of the intellectuals, or the ambition and drive of the accumulators. In spite of the fact that their contribution to society is profound - in fact, society could not function without them - the other groups generally look down upon and tend to exploit them. The laborers are the peasants, serfs, clerks, short order cooks, waiters, janitors, doormen, cabdrivers, garbage collectors, truck drivers, night watchmen and factory workers who keep society running smoothly by working diligently and without complaint.
Groups of each type of people make up the social classes in society. Under this theory, classes are divided by their inherent disposition. In a society, the warriors defend the nation and keep the peace; intellectuals develop our ideas about the world, in the form of religion, art, law and new inventions; acquisitors manage the practical aspects of life, including farms, factories, financial institutions and stores. Meanwhile, laborers do the routine work, waiting tables, collecting trash, and other low-tech, low skill jobs. As should be evident, each class contributes something vitally important to society, and society could not function without all the classes working together in harmony. Unfortunately, not all classes are rewarded equally according to their contributions. Furthermore though all exist simultaneously in society, at any given time only one of the four classes is the dominant class and therefore rules society. The laborers, however, never rule, as they lack the inherent ambition of the other three classes of people.
Social cycle theory and modern social development
According to Batra (1978), the West is currently in the age of acquisitors, also known as Capitalism. This age succeeded the 'age of intellectuals', which gave birth to the Enlightenment and the British parliamentary system. Before that the West went through the 'age of warriors' and the age of discovery. Feudalism, an earlier 'age of acquisitors', reigned before that. It had replaced the 'age of intellectuals', with restrictions on religious thought and also gave birth to the Renaissance period. Before that, Rome ruled the West under the aegis of warriors.
Exploitation and breakdown
To Sarkar, each age would run its course, with the social motivity going too far, causing much grief to the majority of people (Sarkar, 1967). The situation could unchecked go on for a long time, before things got so bad that a spontaneous revolution and overthrow of the system took place. In fact, as this was the reason for social change, it was clear that no single class of people could remain dominant indefinitely. Social power was destined to pass from one class to next in the prescribed order, or cycle. The 'age of warriors', which brings strict order to society and a return to fundamental values, essentially leads to excessive focus on strong man rule and warfare. It is followed by an 'age of intellectuals', which bring a sense of liberation in the mental sphere but soon replace that freedom with the yoke of newer ideas. Over time this age merges into an 'age of acquisitors', which brings progress in the material sphere, but this is soon replaced by increased physical and mental exploitation. The Servile Wars spelled the doom of the Roman Republic. Labour conflict could be the undoing of Capitalism, according to this theory. And so the cycle moves on its endless round, until the civilisation ceases to exist or is taken over by a superior or more powerful civilisation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Social_Cycle
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
This is a saying by Confucius and simply means that history repeats itself.
If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.
~ George Bernard Shaw
Social Cycle Theory
Social cycle theories are among the earliest social theories in sociology. Unlike the theory of social evolutionism, which views the evolution of society and human history as progressing in some new, unique direction(s), sociological cycle theory argues that events and stages of society and history are generally repeating themselves in cycles. Such a theory does not necessarily imply that there cannot be any social progress.
Law of Social Cycle
Law of Social Cycle, also known as the Social Cycle Theory, is a theory of human historical motivity based on "the ancient spiritual ideas of the Vedas". The theory was propounded by the Indian philosopher and spiritual leader Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar in the 1950s and expanded by Ravi Batra since the 1970s, Johan Galtung and Sohail Inayatullah since the 1990s and others
Four Types of People
The Law of Social Cycles is a theory of Varna, arising out of the Indian episteme (Inayatullah, 2002). This law states that while people in any society are all relatively similar, they have generally the same goals, desires and ambitions but differ in the way they go about achieving their goals. An individual's specific methods for achieving success depend on his physical and psychological makeup. Essentially, there are four different psychological types of people, warriors, intellectuals, acquisitors and labourers, who find basic fulfillment in four different kinds of ways.
Warriors
Warriors, or Kshatriya in Sanskrit, have strong bodies, vigorous physical energy and a sharp intellect. Warriors tend to develop the skills that take advantage of their inherent gifts of stamina, courage and vigor. Their mentality is one that is not averse to taking physical risks. Examples of people in our society with the warrior mentality include: policemen, firemen, soldiers, professional athletes, skilled carpenters and tradesmen, etc. They all achieve success through their physical skills and a deep understanding of their profession.
Intellectuals
Intellectuals, or Vipra, have a more developed intellect than the warriors, but generally lack the physical strength and vigor. Intellectuals are happiest when they try to achieve success by developing and expressing their intellectual skills and talents. Examples would be: Teachers, writers, professors, scientists, artists, musicians, philosophers, doctors and lawyers, and above all, priests.
Acquisitors
Acquisitors, or Vaishya, have a penchant for acquiring money. If money can be made the acquisitors will find a way to make it. They are not considered as bright as the intellectuals, nor as strong as the warriors, but they are keen when it comes to making and accumulating money and material possessions. Such people are the traders, businessmen, managers, entrepreneurs, bankers, brokers, and landlords in our society.
Laborers
Laborers, or Shudra, are altogether different from the first three groups. Laborers lack the energy and vigor of the warriors, the keen intellect of the intellectuals, or the ambition and drive of the accumulators. In spite of the fact that their contribution to society is profound - in fact, society could not function without them - the other groups generally look down upon and tend to exploit them. The laborers are the peasants, serfs, clerks, short order cooks, waiters, janitors, doormen, cabdrivers, garbage collectors, truck drivers, night watchmen and factory workers who keep society running smoothly by working diligently and without complaint.
Groups of each type of people make up the social classes in society. Under this theory, classes are divided by their inherent disposition. In a society, the warriors defend the nation and keep the peace; intellectuals develop our ideas about the world, in the form of religion, art, law and new inventions; acquisitors manage the practical aspects of life, including farms, factories, financial institutions and stores. Meanwhile, laborers do the routine work, waiting tables, collecting trash, and other low-tech, low skill jobs. As should be evident, each class contributes something vitally important to society, and society could not function without all the classes working together in harmony. Unfortunately, not all classes are rewarded equally according to their contributions. Furthermore though all exist simultaneously in society, at any given time only one of the four classes is the dominant class and therefore rules society. The laborers, however, never rule, as they lack the inherent ambition of the other three classes of people.
Social cycle theory and modern social development
According to Batra (1978), the West is currently in the age of acquisitors, also known as Capitalism. This age succeeded the 'age of intellectuals', which gave birth to the Enlightenment and the British parliamentary system. Before that the West went through the 'age of warriors' and the age of discovery. Feudalism, an earlier 'age of acquisitors', reigned before that. It had replaced the 'age of intellectuals', with restrictions on religious thought and also gave birth to the Renaissance period. Before that, Rome ruled the West under the aegis of warriors.
Exploitation and breakdown
To Sarkar, each age would run its course, with the social motivity going too far, causing much grief to the majority of people (Sarkar, 1967). The situation could unchecked go on for a long time, before things got so bad that a spontaneous revolution and overthrow of the system took place. In fact, as this was the reason for social change, it was clear that no single class of people could remain dominant indefinitely. Social power was destined to pass from one class to next in the prescribed order, or cycle. The 'age of warriors', which brings strict order to society and a return to fundamental values, essentially leads to excessive focus on strong man rule and warfare. It is followed by an 'age of intellectuals', which bring a sense of liberation in the mental sphere but soon replace that freedom with the yoke of newer ideas. Over time this age merges into an 'age of acquisitors', which brings progress in the material sphere, but this is soon replaced by increased physical and mental exploitation. The Servile Wars spelled the doom of the Roman Republic. Labour conflict could be the undoing of Capitalism, according to this theory. And so the cycle moves on its endless round, until the civilisation ceases to exist or is taken over by a superior or more powerful civilisation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Social_Cycle
I have had a thought in my head for a while about this whole "hoax" and the ELEMENT of it being a ARG. I had ran across this website while researching (Nine Inch Nails, ARG, Trent Reznor) The case STUDY is at this link: http://www.42entertainment.com/yearzero/ (http://www.42entertainment.com/yearzero/)
That website is "CHILLING TO THE BONE" from the first page, the narrative is spooky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game)
Definition and terms of ARG in case anyone doesn't know what it is, WE'RE In a ARG so much so it is eery when I went to the 42entertainment website and read the page names.
This "hoax" is the Biggest Case Study on Human Behaviour...
We are Lab RATS being WATCHED and Scrutinized, LOL it is hilarious to think about.
I am so okay with being a lab RAT for a GOOD cause and thanks to Michael I have had the best TIME of my LIFE. I have learned so much. I read this forum and I am educated beyond what a school could teach me. I have learned about love and tolerance. Patience and trust... I have read some soap opera and some comic tales and lmao.
This experience is TRUELY a Michael Jackson experience. No need for a video game to come out we are in it now.
I am grateful for this opportunity to live through this.
Thank You Michael.
Peace
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If history repeats itself ... We should be careful ..
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Ok it was confucius again :lol: I don't know why but these tweets make me wanna give my personal opinion :lol: I don't even google them I directly type what comes in my mind sorry! :lol: :lol: :lol: This makes me remember a homework of philosophy we had to do at school, "Does history repeat itself?"...hmmm, yes :? (of course we had to elaborate a little more).
LOL Paula, yes we have to be careful! :lol: :lol: :lol: Not I'm not crazy! :lol: Not yet, or maybe a little already.
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
It's not necessarily negative. It's not just the bad repeating, but understanding and anticipating the future better. And I believe the repeating cycles could be building up to a climax.
King Solomon said a similar thing to this quote in Ecclesiates 1:1-12 especially verses 9-10.
The Vanity of Life
1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2 “ Vanity[a] of vanities,” says the Preacher;
“ Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.”
3 What profit has a man from all his labor
In which he toils under the sun?
4 One generation passes away, and another generation comes;
But the earth abides forever.
5 The sun also rises, and the sun goes down,
And hastens to the place where it arose.
6 The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.
7 All the rivers run into the sea,
Yet the sea is not full;
To the place from which the rivers come,
There they return again.
8 All things are full of labor;
Man cannot express it.
The eye is not satisfied with seeing,
Nor the ear filled with hearing.
That which has been is what will be,
That which is done is what will be done,
And there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which it may be said,
“ See, this is new”?
It has already been in ancient times before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things,
Nor will there be any remembrance of things that are to come
By those who will come after.
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Sarahli I am not crazy.. I believe it :? , anyhow I believe that in my life habia had decipher so many things simultaneously :lol:
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Sarahli I am not crazy.. I believe it :? , anyhow I believe that in my life habia had decipher so many things simultaneously :lol:
Paula yes I know I was talking about myself ;) because actually what you said was serious especially if we think about the bad events that occured throughout History. Now as MJonmind said it can also be positive.
I recently often think about 2012 and what may happen and I was reading and understanding this tweet in this perspective. It is known in the geological field that sudden events happened in the history of Planet Earth and if History repeats itself this can happen in 2012. :)
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
It's not necessarily negative. It's not just the bad repeating, but understanding and anticipating the future better. And I believe the repeating cycles could be building up to a climax.
I've thought about this and what if this means something like : To understand this hoax, why it happend etc. you've got to look back in time... (like TS mentioned) When did it all start, when did Michael left clues behind, and most important...there must be more into all the stuff we've gathered surrounding his "day of death" ... if we understand this.. we can look forward..to the future ;)
(Don't hate me if I'm wrong though it's just a thought :D )
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
It's not necessarily negative. It's not just the bad repeating, but understanding and anticipating the future better. And I believe the repeating cycles could be building up to a climax.
I've thought about this and what if this means something like : To understand this hoax, why it happend etc. you've got to look back in time... (like TS mentioned) When did it all start, when did Michael left clues behind, and most important...there must be more into all the stuff we've gathered surrounding his "day of death" ... if we understand this.. we can look forward..to the future ;)
(Don't hate me if I'm wrong though it's just a thought :D )
Your NOT wrong at all.
I did some looking back on my own posts: Dang, I just noticed this video has been removed. It was a good video with an egyptian theme.
[youtube:3tclr46g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujX83e_w4A[/youtube:3tclr46g]
Love to you Michael....
xoxo
always,
"Your friend forever" xoxo
:D :mrgreen: :D
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It is very interesting to see how far I have grown since this was posted April 6, 2010.
I believe that events and people will repeat over and over in our lives until we learn the lesson. Once that lesson is learned the event or person goes away and there is healing.
I find repeats of HIStory all the time happening to me. I take it as hmm. I haven't learned yet.
So yes HIStory is repeating until we get it right.
Check the HIStory books in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_(M ... ckson_song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_(Michael_Jackson_song))#HIStory
And Ghosts are haunting us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory:_P ... re,_Book_I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory:_Past,_Present_and_Future,_Book_I)
There is a FUTURE and Book 1 in this title so there must be a FUTURE for us. And a New HiStory written.
[youtube:3tclr46g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OBUgE6EDFo[/youtube:3tclr46g]
He told us back then. It is all lies. The HIStory books are ALL lies.
The culture of equality hasn't changed much for the Black Man. And now it is bleeding over to all Nations. We are loosing our rights day by day. Change needs to happen.
[youtube:3tclr46g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LAqcXaVVvM&feature=related[/youtube:3tclr46g]
I like this:
We often have complete certainty about what we see, hear or perceive in any way: no one would change his mind because "we've seen with our own eyes," or because "we have heard very clearly." But our perception of things sometimes deceive us: a thing may be another depending on how you like the look or hear.
The experiment is:
Listen and watch this video and check out what it says. Listen well and remember what you heard.
[youtube:3tclr46g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQoYKuNcCpU[/youtube:3tclr46g]
Then again, hear the video but with eyes closed or staring at another site other than the screen.
You hear the same?
We should not be so sure that we are right. Doubt always around.
This effect is called McGurk effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGurk_effect
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Dated March 16, 2010: I wrote.
Nice video to prove a very good point, ;)
Not sure what anyone else heard, but for me watching and listening very closely, paying attention to detail, I heard baa baa baa baa.
Not sure if that's correctly spelled but, same thing with eyes closed baa baa baa baa!
Use the senses all of them even intuition...
:mrgreen:
Looking to the past. Interesting what has happened since then. Some things started to become predictable, as far as HIStory on human behaviour.
When a bad article came out about Michael alot of people lost hope and their faith waivered.
Don't TRUST your eyes. Everything is NOT what it seems.
There will be a NEW DAY.
Peace
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
It's not necessarily negative. It's not just the bad repeating, but understanding and anticipating the future better. And I believe the repeating cycles could be building up to a climax.
I've thought about this and what if this means something like : To understand this hoax, why it happend etc. you've got to look back in time... (like TS mentioned) When did it all start, when did Michael left clues behind, and most important...there must be more into all the stuff we've gathered surrounding his "day of death" ... if we understand this.. we can look forward..to the future ;)
(Don't hate me if I'm wrong though it's just a thought :D )
I was thinking the same, and he mentioned "back" also.
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You have reason, probably we must look once again backward, probably there are things that we did not see completely. ;)
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I think we need to start ALL over again... take a look back AGAIN to that day.. June 25th... with fresh eyes , maybe we'll notice things wtih the knowledge we have today, things we didn't notice before :)
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
This is a saying by Confucius and simply means that history repeats itself.
If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.
~ George Bernard Shaw
Social Cycle Theory
Social cycle theories are among the earliest social theories in sociology. Unlike the theory of social evolutionism, which views the evolution of society and human history as progressing in some new, unique direction(s), sociological cycle theory argues that events and stages of society and history are generally repeating themselves in cycles. Such a theory does not necessarily imply that there cannot be any social progress...
Thanks for this information! Very interesting read. It is interesting that apparently, according to this theory, we are currently in the age of Acquisitors which will then go into the age of Warriors. This reminds me of the idea of an ARMY of Love. Interesting choice of words if you ask me. Love learning something new. Thanks again, Serenity. Like I said before, you really need to put all your findings in a site. I can learn for days on that. lol
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New Tweet: "Study the past if you would define the future."
History Lyrics
He got kicked in the back
He say that he needed that
He hot willed in the face
Keep daring to motivate
He say one day you will see
His place in world history
He dares to be recognized
The fires deep in his eyes
How many victims must there be
Slaughtered in vain across the land
And how many struggles must there be
Before we choose to live the prophet's plan
Everybody...
Every day create your history
Every path you take you're leaving your legacy
Every soldier dies in his glory
Every legend tells of conquest and liberty
Don't let no one get you down
Keep movin' on higher ground
Keep flying until
You are the king of the hill
No force of nature can break
Your will to self motivate
She say this face that you see
Is destined for history
How many people have to cry
The song of pain and grief across the land
And how many children have to die
Before we stand to lend a healing hand
Everybody sing...
Every day create your history
Every path you take you're leaving your legacy
Every soldier dies in his glory
Every legend tells of conquest and liberty
Every day create your history
Every page you turn you're writing your legacy
Every hero dreams of chivalry
Every child should sing together in harmony
All nations sing
Let's harmonize all around the world
How many victims must there be
Slaughtered in vain across the land
And how many children must we see
Before we learn to live as brothers
And create one family oh...
Every day create your history
Every path you take you're leaving your legacy
Every soldier dies in his glory
Every legend tells of conquest and liberty
Every day create your history
Every page you turn you're writing your legacy
Every hero dreams of chivalry
Every child should sing together in harmony
A soldier dies
A mother cries
The promised child shines in a baby's eyes
All nations sing
Let's harmonize all around the world
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Look who's back!
New Tweet: "Faking the news"
Mods, I couldn't find the old thread, so I started it up again. I apologize if it's there and I just can't see it!
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I am not sure who they are.. I just follow them on twitter but I don't know much about them
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Thanks, @ Sarahli. I'll move the latest Tweet into the existing thread. One more time...
New Tweet: "Faking the news"
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mjintrigue2012? I don't see the tweet....
New Tweet: "Faking the news"
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Thankyou so much for putting this is in the right spot, @ sarahli. I kind of gave up after the third try of getting it in the wrong place -- lol. I was having an off day yesterday :(
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Thankyou so much for putting this is in the right spot, @ sarahli. I kind of gave up after the third try of getting it in the wrong place -- lol. I was having an off day yesterday :(
You're welcome :) Hope you feel better today.
As for the tweet itself "Faking the news" what can we say?? I fee like it is in reference to the news people commonly accept as being real news why in reality these are fake news... faking the news... well I'm not really inspired :lol:
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Probably they're quotting "Breaking news". But who are thisisalmostit?
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Probably they're quotting "Breaking news". But who are thisisalmostit?
We don't know who is behind that account but the tweets are interesting.
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@ Sarahli...Thankyou for your kind words, I am feeling better today!
@ _Anna_...Thisisalmostit is a person who consistently delivers a positive message, and provides information that has increased my knowledge and understanding of certain things. I figure that enlightenment is a good thing! Some interesting research and discussion has occurred because of Thisisalmostit's Tweets. I'd encourage you to look back through to beginning of this thread and read through!
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"Faking the news" or false news is an attempt to make believe the gnete something false is real... everything you see on television, which is read in the newspapers....
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@ Sarahli...Thankyou for your kind words, I am feeling better today!
@ _Anna_...Thisisalmostit is a person who consistently delivers a positive message, and provides information that has increased my knowledge and understanding of certain things. I figure that enlightenment is a good thing! Some interesting research and discussion has occurred because of Thisisalmostit's Tweets. I'd encourage you to look back through to beginning of this thread and read through!
I will look back again, although I follow them and I know their twitts but I always thought they are nothing more but fans/believers.
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New Tweet:
"Repeat after me: I CAN think for myself"
Pow!!! -- right between the eyes! Thanks, Almost.
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New Tweet:
"Repeat after me: I CAN think for myself"
Pow!!! -- right between the eyes! Thanks, Almost.
LOL - now I really believe this person is someone on this forum. Especially after the TS conversation from the past couple of days.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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And after Mo's topic of the Chain of Custody for DNA needed for Eliza's case, we all needed to again think for ourselves. It was a good reminder. Did we pass the test?
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New Tweet:
"Repeat after me: I CAN think for myself"
Pow!!! -- right between the eyes! Thanks, Almost.
Awesome. lol
Peace
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@ Sarahli...Thankyou for your kind words, I am feeling better today!
@ _Anna_...Thisisalmostit is a person who consistently delivers a positive message, and provides information that has increased my knowledge and understanding of certain things. I figure that enlightenment is a good thing! Some interesting research and discussion has occurred because of Thisisalmostit's Tweets. I'd encourage you to look back through to beginning of this thread and read through!
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I agree Mjintrigue2012!! There is soooo much to learn from Thisisalmostit's tweets, there are many "pieces to the puzzle" in his tweets...so much "knowledge," just "sitting" there for those willing to take the time to study and research the "meanings" of these tweets! No frills or fuss...just "FACTS"....Brilliance!
Sending you Blessings, Love and Light my friend!!! :D
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New Tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/368tebs (http://tinyurl.com/368tebs)
Oh my goodness!
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New Tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/368tebs (http://tinyurl.com/368tebs)
Oh my goodness!
This Twitter account is from a hoaxer, that picture is photoshopped.
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Oh thisisalmostit.... not that fast slow down a little... :lol: .... but it's been a while now that you display that This Is Almost It I understand you're in hurry now.
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:lol:
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New Tweet: Luke 11:45
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New Tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/368tebs (http://tinyurl.com/368tebs)
Oh my goodness!
This Twitter account is from a hoaxer, that picture is photoshopped.
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2 (http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2)
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Good point, keyboardwizz
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New Tweet: Luke 11:45
Luke 11:45 (New American Standard Bible)
One of the lawyers said to Him in reply, "Teacher, when You say this, You insult us too."
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New Tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/368tebs (http://tinyurl.com/368tebs)
Oh my goodness!
This Twitter account is from a hoaxer, that picture is photoshopped.
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2 (http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2)
I'll just repeat myself:
It's now 11:45! So Lilwendy you must be right!
First was... it's close to midnight and somethin evil's lurkin' in the dark..... YES IT'S THRILLER!!!!! THRILLER TWO!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
No it is not: http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com)
Yes, Souza, i know...but isn't it odd?
The same clocks...
What about this Account?
:shock: :?:
It is a hoaxer who photoshopped the picture. Please don't get any clues from this account, because it is definitely not someone affiliated with MJ or thisisalsoit.com.
Thank you very much, Souza...
;)
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2
Ah! that's pretty funny you are the one that found that clock right there! Weren't you also the one starting the thread about the thisisalmostit twitter account?
I don't have to do a little investigation in this case, glad you took the bait.
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New Tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/368tebs (http://tinyurl.com/368tebs)
Oh my goodness!
This Twitter account is from a hoaxer, that picture is photoshopped.
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2 (http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2)
I'll just repeat myself:
It's now 11:45! So Lilwendy you must be right!
First was... it's close to midnight and somethin evil's lurkin' in the dark..... YES IT'S THRILLER!!!!! THRILLER TWO!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
No it is not: http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com)
Yes, Souza, i know...but isn't it odd?
The same clocks...
What about this Account?
:shock: :?:
It is a hoaxer who photoshopped the picture. Please don't get any clues from this account, because it is definitely not someone affiliated with MJ or thisisalsoit.com.
Thank you very much, Souza...
;)
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2
Ah! that's pretty funny you are the one that found that clock right there! Weren't you also the one starting the thread about the thisisalmostit twitter account?
I don't have to do a little investigation in this case, glad you took the bait.
Yes, I started this thisisalmostit thing but you forget to mention who's idea it initially was.........
You are only suggesting things and give false information (in this case)
So who's bait it is anyway ??
Sometimes it takes a small fish to catch a big one ........
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New Tweet:
http://tinyurl.com/368tebs (http://tinyurl.com/368tebs)
Oh my goodness!
This Twitter account is from a hoaxer, that picture is photoshopped.
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2 (http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2)
I'll just repeat myself:
It's now 11:45! So Lilwendy you must be right!
First was... it's close to midnight and somethin evil's lurkin' in the dark..... YES IT'S THRILLER!!!!! THRILLER TWO!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
No it is not: http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com)
Yes, Souza, i know...but isn't it odd?
The same clocks...
What about this Account?
:shock: :?:
It is a hoaxer who photoshopped the picture. Please don't get any clues from this account, because it is definitely not someone affiliated with MJ or thisisalsoit.com.
Thank you very much, Souza...
;)
If you did a little investigation, you would have seen that that clock was not photoshopped, but taken from the same link as TS's clock.
The only thing one had to do was to follow the link. This once again proves how easy it is to spread false information
and how easy people assume things for truth.
This still is an investigation site isn't it ?
Found both clocks here btw: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/mysearch.php?pageNum=2
Ah! that's pretty funny you are the one that found that clock right there! Weren't you also the one starting the thread about the thisisalmostit twitter account?
I don't have to do a little investigation in this case, glad you took the bait.
Yes, I started this thisisalmostit thing but you forget to mention who's idea it initially was.........
You are only suggesting things and give false information (in this case)
So who's bait it is anyway ??
Sometimes it takes a small fish to catch a big one ........
Are you posting everything double? See my reply in the other thread.
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Uhm..... you repeated yourself ........
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Well keyboardwizz, the one who always replied to your tweets with "I can´t believe is not butter" and other similar remarks, it was me :lol: :lol: nice to meet you.
I am about to open an account in twitter, the name will be thisalmostwas, or thisisnearlyit, thisisnotityetbutitwillbeipromise.
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New post today 2 hours ago (so would be 10.27 uk time)
just cut and pasted from the page
Beware of the half truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half
here is the link to the page http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit) :D
Sorry dont know how to do screen shot, :oops:
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To very active state that account to twitter lately
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Well keyboardwizz, the one who always replied to your tweets with "I can´t believe is not butter" and other similar remarks, it was me :lol: :lol: nice to meet you.
I am about to open an account in twitter, the name will be thisalmostwas, or thisisnearlyit, thisisnotityetbutitwillbeipromise.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That last one is catchy.
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New Tweet: "Actioni contrariam semper et æqualem esse reactionem"
Latin -- translates to: "To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction"
Edit: Newton's Law of Motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion))
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Correction: Above is Newton's 3rd Law of Motion
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;)
Beware of the half truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half
here is the link to the page http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit) :D
New Tweet: "Actioni contrariam semper et æqualem esse reactionem"
Latin -- translates to: "To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction"
I watched the History channel last night about Woodstock. I saw the actual performances of many of these artists below. I got to know what Woodstock was all about.
I was absolutely blown away at what these people did when they came together in PEACE. At the end of the show someone says:
"What this world needs now is the new generations to be a Woodstock"
[youtube:a1cl9gwu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA51wyl-9IE[/youtube:a1cl9gwu]
http://www.woodstock.com/1969-festival/ (http://www.woodstock.com/1969-festival/)
About Woodstock 1969
Edit this in the Woodstock 1969 Wiki Page
Rolling Stone has called it "the most famous event in rock history." The Woodstock Music and Art Fair, on a 600-acre farm in the township of Bethel, New York, from August 15-18, 1969, represents more than a peaceful gathering of 500,000 people and 32 musical performances. Woodstock has become an idea that has suffused our culture, politically and socially, as much as musically. Joni Mitchell, who didn't attend but wrote an anthemic song about it, once said, "Woodstock was a spark of beauty" where half-a-million kids "saw that they were part of a greater organism." According to Michael Lang, one of four young men who formed Woodstock Ventures to produce the festival, "That's what means the most to me – the connection to one another felt by all of us who worked on the festival, all those who came to it, and the millions who couldn't be there but were touched by it."
Lang met Artie Kornfeld, a Capitol Records A&R man and songwriter, in late 1968, and the two envisioned producing a festival in Woodstock, New York.and building a building a recording studio there. In search of financing they connected with John Roberts and Joel Rosenman, a pair of young venture capitalists who were already building Media Sound studios, a large-scale recording facility in New York City. In February of 1969, the four men incorporated Woodstock Ventures, Inc., and they began work on the festival. Soon, the conservative townsfolk of Wallkill became alarmed by the growing number of longhairs arriving to prepare the festival grounds, and a number of lawsuits were filed to stop the festival. After weeks of tension, town meetings, and legal maneuverings, Woodstock Ventures were refused permission to produce the festival.The studio project was put on hold so they could focus all their energy on saving the festival. Miraculously, 600 bucolic acres belonging to White Lake dairyman Max Yasgur, in the township of Bethel, New York, were discovered after Lang recieved a call from a local motel owner Elliott Tiber the day after the Wallkill site was lost. Work rapidly got underway to turn the rural acreage into a concert site with camping areas for 200,000. Three weeks later, during the week of August 11, thousands of people from all over the country began flocking to the festival site.
By Wednesday, August 13, the lush green bowl in front of the massive 75-foot stage was already filled with some 60,000 people. On Friday the roads were so clogged with cars that the only way most artists could reach the festival was by helicopter from a nearby airstrip. Though over 100,000 tickets were sold prior to the festival weekend, they became unnecessary: The fences and gates were never finished and people simply swarmed over those that were in place. "It's a free concert from now on!" was announced from the stage. As John Roberts later pointed out, "It took us eleven years to break even, but it was a success in every other way."
The music was scheduled to start at 4 p.m. on August 15, and just after 5 it did, thanks to New York-born folksinger Richie Havens. His improvised and rhythmic "Freedom" set the tone for the weekend. "The vibe at Woodstock was an expression of the times," says Joel Rosenman. "Energized by repugnance for a senseless war and for the entrenched discrimination of the establishment, a spirited but nonviolent counterculture was sweeping the country. That counterculture burst into bloom like the mother of all Mother's Day bouquets at Woodstock."
The occasional cloudburst delayed the primarily acoustic music as Friday night wore on, but eight acts, plus a swami, made it to the stage. Around 2 a.m, Joan Baez closed the first night with the spiritual "We Shall Overcome."
Saturday boasted the most music of the weekend, starting just after noon and continuing until Sunday at dawn (with Jefferson Airplane performing "morning maniac music," as described by Grace Slick). Highlights included the then-unknown Santana in mid-afternoon, and that night spectacular back-to-back performances by Sly and the Family Stone and The Who. Blues-rock was featured via Canned Heat and Mountain, followed by such legendary California-based artists as the Grateful Dead, Creedence Clearwater Revival, and Janis Joplin. Sunday featured another long span of music, though violent thunderstorms wreaked havoc just after Joe Cocker and The Grease Band's finale of "A Little Help From My Friends." The music was delayed until late afternoon but carried on throughout the night with more highlights including the Texas bluesman Johnny Winter and Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young (their second gig). On Monday morning at 8:30, Jimi Hendrix closed out the festival. His magnificent, improvisational version of "The Star Spangled Banner" has come to symbolize the weekend.
Around 10:30 a.m. on August 18, the festival came to an end. The innovative concert film Woodstock, directed by Michael Wadleigh, was released in March of 1970 and took the festival's message around the world. The movie documented a community of a half million people who managed to peacefully co-exist over three days of consistent rain, food shortages, and a lack of creature comforts. "Woodstock is a reminder that inside each of us is the instinct for building a decent, loving community, the kind we all wish for," according to Joel Rosenman. "Over the decades, the history of that weekend has served as a beacon of hope that a beautiful spirit in each of us ultimately will triumph."
Recordings of the music played that weekend still evoke the magic and power felt by those who were there. "It was a privilege to help found something that has meant so much to so many," adds Rosenman. "Woodstock turned out to be a sort of permanent relative of the Family of Man—the adventuresome, kind-hearted uncle you're always happy to see at Thanksgiving and graduation. I'm really grateful that we both ended up in the same family."
Two days after Woodstock ended, the New York Times ran an editorial praising what had happened at Bethel (a reversal from a previous editorial condemning the festival). It concluded with a quote from Shakespeare's Henry V, which seems appropriate upon the fortieth anniversary of Woodstock: "He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, will stand a-tiptoe when this day is nam'd."
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This is additional information in the web:
The Age of Aquarius
The largest concert after Monterey Pop, the "Woodstock Music and Art Fair," would be what Time magazine celebrated as an "Aquarian Festival"' and "history's largest happening." The term "Aquarian" was carefully chosen. The Aquarian age signified that the "Age of Pisces," which is the age of Christ, had come to an end.
At Woodstock, a small town in upstate New York, nearly half a million youth gathered to be drugged and brainwashed on a farm. The victims were isolated, immersed in filth, pumped with psychedelic drugs, and kept awake continously for three straight days, and all with the full complicity of the FBI and government officials. Security for the concert was provided by a hippie commune trained in the mass distribution of LSD.
Once again, it would be the networks of British military intelligence which would be the initiators. Woodstock was the brain child of Artie Kornfeld, the director of EMI's Capitol Record's, Contemporary Projects Division. The original funding was provided by the heir of a large Pennsylvania-based pharmaceutical company, John Roberts, and two other partners. It was another pharmaceutical company, the Swiss-based Sandoz Laboratories, which had first synthesized LSD. Roberts would later be accused of using his company for the mass drugging of the attendees.
Little adequate preparations were made for the nearly half a million people who came. Joel Rosenman, one of the three partners, writes, as the concert neared, "Food and water were clearly going to be in short supply, sanitary facilities overtaxed, tempers short, drugs overabundant. Worst of all, there was no way for anyone who wanted to, to leave." Sitting in your own excrement was actually part of the plan, as John Roberts jokingly wrote, "We're going to hand out bananas at the gate to bind our patrons."
A hippie commune called the Hog Farm, had a special role at Woodstock. The Hog Farm was led by a man nicknamed Wavy Graver, who was a former member of Ken Kesey's MK-Ultra operation, the Merry Pranksters. Communes like the Hog Farm were commonly found in the remote parts of California and served as the breeding grounds for Satanic cults, as well as terrorist groups. Members of these communes continually interchanged with other communes and were the recruiting grounds for the Process Church and Manson. Hog Farm member Diane Lake was a member of Charles Manson's Family, at the time of the massacre of Sharon Tate and her guests.
On August 14, one day before the scheduled opening, the entire festival security force, comprised of 350 off-duty New York City cops, pulled out. A spokesman for the New York police claimed that no official arrangement was ever made with the city, a claim the promoters vehemently denied. In an August 15, 1969 New York Times article, the head of Woodstock's security said, "Now I don't have any security at all. I've been struck. We're having the biggest collection of kids there's ever been in this country without any police protection." Not surprisingly, the Hog Farm was put in charge of security.
Woodstock funder and director John Roberts, openly admitted that he was well aware of the Hog Farm's connection to drug distribution. He writes, "their fee was simply transportation to and from the festival... a peace-keeping force that looked, talked, and smelled like the crowd would be both highly credible and highly effective... and the most important, they were wise in the ways of drugs, knowing good acid from bad, good trips from bummers, good medicine from poison, etc."
The Hog Farm at the time was living in New Mexico's mountains. Roberts chartered a Boeing 727, at a cost of $17,000, and flew 100 of them to New York.
To clear the final path for the planned drugging of half a million youngsters, the district attorney for the area agreed privately that there would be no arrests or prosecutions for violations of drug laws. John Roberts writes, "The District Attorney...recognized early on that many of our customers would be using illegal drugs, but also recognized that such use would be the least of our problems over the course of the weekend. He acted, therefore, with compassion and good grace throughout." Roberts also writes that he was meeting continuously with the FBI up to and including one day before the start of the concert, and had their full cooperation.
The Expriment Begins
Two days before the scheduled start of the concert, 50,000 kids had already arrived in Woodstock. Drugs immediately began to circulate. Many people brought their babies and, as Roberts says, even they were drugged. Roberts writes that at a nearby lake, "the tots swam naked, smoked grass, and got into the music."
A poll conducted at the festival by the New York Times showed that 99 percent of those attending were using marijuana. Local sheriff deputies, totally overwhelmed, reported that no arrests were being made for drug use. The New York Times of August 17 quoted one deputy," If we did (make arrests), there isn't enough space in Sullivan or the next three counties to put them in."
The use of marijuana was not the worst. Following the design of the original MK-Ultra project, the mass distribution of LSD came next, much of it in LSD-laced Coca Cola, as Kesey's Pranksters had done five years earlier. Roberts jokingly relates the following, "a particularly abrasive cop ....had been handed an LSD-spiked Coke while directing traffic. Long after all automobiles in the area had congealed to a standstill, the hardhat was still out on the road waving them on. Finally they led him away."
For the next three days, the nearly half a million young people that arrived were subjected to continual drugs and rock music. Because of torrential rains, they were forced to wallow in knee-deep mud. There were no shelters, and no way to get out. Cars were parked over eight miles away. Rosenman writes that the key to the "Woodstock experimen"' was "keeping our performers performing around the clock...to keep the kids transfixed..."
Within the first 24 hours, over 300 kids reported to medical authorities, violently ill. The diagnosis: they were having "bad" LSD trips. Thousands more would follow. On August 17, the New York Times reported: "Tonight, a festival announcer warned from the stage, that 'badly manufactured acid' (a term for LSD) was being circulated. He said: 'You aren't taking poison acid. The acid's not poison. It's just badly manufactured acid. You are not going to die.... So if you think you've taken poison, you haven't. But if you're worried, just take half a tablet.'"
The advice, to nearly 500,000 people, "just take half a tablet" was given by none other than MK-Ultra agent Wavy Gravy.
With a growing medical emergency on hand, a call went out to New York City for emergency medical personnel. Over 50 doctors and nurses were flown in. By the end of Woodstock, a total of 5,000 medical cases were reported.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/satanic_roots.htm
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My update!
Accredere non possum arvina non est! :D
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Thanks Grace,
That just goes to show that for every action there will be an equally opposed reaction. "To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction"
In the History channel documentary they did not hide the fact that eveyone was high on LSD and other forms of drugs. They made that very public knowledge. It just means as an informed individual while watching or reading info we need to be aware of half truths. Beware of which truth we believe.
"Beware of the half truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half"
Peace
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My update!
Accredere non possum arvina non est! :D
What is your "update", @ Gema. Can't seem to get the word "arvina" -- who or what?
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My update!
Accredere non possum arvina non est! :D
What is your "update", @ Gema. Can't seem to get the word "arvina" -- who or what?
the meaning in the translation is my credo, I can´t believe is not butter!
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My update!
Accredere non possum arvina non est! :D
What is your "update", @ Gema. Can't seem to get the word "arvina" -- who or what?
the meaning in the translation is my credo, I can´t believe is not butter!
Ok. Now I remember...
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New Tweet: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redirect (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redirect)
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New Tweet: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redirect (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redirect)
redirect
- 3 dictionary results
–verb (used with object)
1.
to direct again.
2.
to change the direction or focus of: He redirected the children's energies toward building a sand castle instead of throwing sand at each other.
–adjective
3.
Law . pertaining to the examination of a witness by the party calling him or her, after cross-examination.
World English Dictionary
redirect (ˌriːdɪˈrɛkt, ˌriːdaɪ-) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]
— vb
to direct (someone or something) to a different place or by a different route
Word Origin & History
redirect
1844, from re- "back, again" + direct. ?!?bam!!
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper
Cite This Source Online Etymology Dictionary
or should WE have to change our direction ??
to what way then?..
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New Tweet: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redirect (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redirect)
1.
to direct again. :!: :P
3.
Law . pertaining to the examination of a witness by the party calling him or her, after cross-examination. :!: :?:
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New Tweet: http://tinyurl.com/2wdcr5g (http://tinyurl.com/2wdcr5g)
Oh, look at that! A redirect to all the comotion on this forum! Let me be the first to thankyou, @keyboardwizz, for creating Thisisalmostit. I've always looked forward to your Tweets. Clearly, this is my most active thread on this forum. I can't think of too many of your Tweets that haven't shed some new light for me, whether it's about "the man we never knew", or some other interesting topic. And, let me add, that you do so in a positive manner. So, as far as I'm concerned, you can keep on educating me. I don't know everything...I don't profess to know everything...and there is always room to learn more.
Blessings!
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Most of you probably figured out by now that I am the person behind thisisalmostit and I feel I ow you all an explanation.
-If you go back to the indexpage (the official twitter forum) it clearly states: Thisisalmostit by keyboardwizz
-The first post on this thread was posted by me, that should set off an alarm, I posted the same post on http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net and one of the first replies I got was: "Since you posted this , it is probably you who started that account" so overthere I was debunked in a day......
-The information I used where little things I bumped in to during the last months, and where meant to make people think, (the same principle T.S. used) Those could be inspirational quotes, song lyrics or even little personal experiences, and because they came frome the same mind, they all seem connected.
-Sometimes I even had some lucky tweets, so it seemed that I predicted events I also thought about the posibility to use my tweets and make it seem I "predicted "events, I 've hinted "controversy" months ago.........
-I was amazed by the reactions and the amazing information I got back from some of you in this thread, and was intrigued by the way that some of my tweets where interpreted in a way that I never thought of
I never ever had the intention to hurt or deceive any of you, in my opinion everyone is responsible for what they are willing to believe.
I sincerly thank you for the information I've gotten back from you, I will continue posting on this account but now you know The Source.
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keyboardwizz, thank you for that info. Since I was one of those who didn't know it was you, could you tell us your honest opinion of TS/TIAI and do you believe Michael is alive? You mentioned that TS could just as easily as you get things from the internet. Are you saying he could be just another literal 'keyboardwizz'? Thanks.
Plus you're also calling yourself "The Source". TS :?
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keyboardwizz,
Thanks for your honesty
May I ask why it took you so long to tell us about it?
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keyboardwizz, thank you for that info. Since I was one of those who didn't know it was you, could you tell us your honest opinion of TS/TIAI and do you believe Michael is alive? You mentioned that TS could just as easily as you get things from the internet. Are you saying he could be just another literal 'keyboardwizz'? Thanks.
Plus you're also calling yourself "The Source". TS :?
"In my opinion everyone is responsible for what they are willing to believe"
I have no idea who TS is, and what his intentions are, he has brought us some great insights and information but I noticed while tweeting myself that: short interpretations can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, so you can control the way people think, and another thing I noticed is that T.S. explained his redirects after the facts , and for me it's a bit suspicious that he makes predictions after the facts.
If you a have a little knowledge of synchronicities and multicontextual research, you will notice that T.S. only scratches the surface, and my interests lie in a much broader field then this hoax alone, there are some things going on in this world that really blow my mind, so if Michael is alive or not is just a detail in my experience.
Imho this whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)
But I am glad that the truth about Michael (dead or alive ) is being told, the world has the right to know that it is/was being lied to by the media.
For me personally the main thing in the hoax is how the f$ck can religious leaders get away with child abuse, while a pop idol still is being judged as a pedophile, while proven innocent, sadly it's a messed up world.......
@ Gema : Nobody asked ..........
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this whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)
I agree on this.
@ Gema : Nobody asked ..........
I read you were asked to stop it and tell.
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keyboardwizz wrote: If you a have a little knowledge of synchronicities and multicontextual research
I have no such knowledge, could you please explain why that is?
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this whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)
I agree on this.
@ Gema : Nobody asked ..........
I read you were asked to stop it and tell.
The underlined quote sounds like we were actually under a social experiment...How fast a conspiracy theory can grow? How far can it reach? How many interpretations can be given to a single statement? This should explain the numerology stuff then...Or are you simply saying all of this because of what happened in the other thread? Sorry, but I'm just too suspicious about everything going on in here. I do appreciate your honesty, though I never followed you.
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First of all, please use the quote button the right way, now it seems that Gema said:
"This whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)"
While this is my quote, and I made this statement as my personal view on the whole hoax, so it has nothing to do with the situation that's going on right now. And yes you can see my twitter experience as a social experience and it gave me a good insight in gullibility and interpretations of quotes and redirects.
Third, I was asked to stop but I had my own reasons for it to continue, when you read my posts on other threads you can clearly see my intentions and opinions, I don't wan't drama on this thread, thisisalmostit has been and will be a positive experience.
For synchronicity and multicontextual research you really have to do your own investigation, it involves a lot of reading,research and a totaly new way of looking at the world , but it's a very rewarding experience for me. It involves studying symbols, etymology, history, astrology, mystisicm, the occult, psychology etc. All of these are subjects I'm fascinated with for decades now, but with the multicontextual research all this knowledge finally fits together.
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First of all, please use the quote button the right way, now it seems that Gema said:
"This whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)"
While this is my quote, and I made this statement as my personal view on the whole hoax, so it has nothing to do with the situation that's going on right now. And yes you can see my twitter experience as a social experience and it gave me a good insight in gullibility and interpretations of quotes and redirects.
Third, I was asked to stop but I had my own reasons for it to continue, when you read my posts on other threads you can clearly see my intentions and opinions, I don't wan't drama on this thread, thisisalmostit has been and will be a positive experience.
For synchronicity and multicontextual research you really have to do your own investigation, it involves a lot of reading,research and a totaly new way of looking at the world , but it's a very rewarding experience for me. It involves studying symbols, etymology, history, astrology, mystisicm, the occult, psychology etc. All of these are subjects I'm fascinated with for decades now, but with the multicontextual research all this knowledge finally fits together.
Is God doing like TS? I know I'm digressing from your purpose in writing this, but this all made me think of something that relates to the deepest parts of my own personal study of the Bible and my understanding of the Creator's heart and intentions for this world and its history, including this Michael saga. While I believe the Bible to be 100% God's Word, I take a step back and see a bigger picture that includes everything as having His stamp of handiwork, including things such as literature and movies. Does God want to guide us in understanding His creative process, and understand how we can be manipulated to choose good or evil, all the while He weaves His story with all it's rich twists and turns, civilizations, ideologies, influencial individuals, wars, disasters. I've always seen the parallels in the story of the Wizard of Oz, that Michael loved, to world history. We humans travel down the yellow brick road of life, needing a heart, courage, and a brain (compassion, strength of character, and wisdom/understanding) The destination is heaven/paradise on earth. Behind the curtain is God, all along, orchestrating the whole thing, allowing us to believe certain things so that we will gain insight into His heart and fragility of humanity. For instance, hell included as a hoax to create fear that motivates to action for the wrong reasons. A giant test, a scenario to be annalyzed from afar for deep wisdom. And it's all for L.O.V.E. because God/the Creator is L.O.V.E.
Why, for instance, did Jesus only speak in parables? Sounds just as obscure and with-holding information for other purposes as TS is doing. There is a much grander 'game' going on, since the foundation of the world.Matthew 13:10-17 (King James Version)
10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Matthew 13:34-35 (King James Version)
34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
35That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
So maybe Jesus only wanted the really smart ones to get it, or he wanted to make a game of it to see if by discussion they could figure it out. He was prejudiced against large crowds of people and only like to speak clearly to small groups. No, there was a progressive revelation thing going on, since the foundation of the world. That was 0 A.D. and now this is 2010 A.D. The prophet Daniel said in the last days that knowledge would increase. Daniel 12:4. And why does God keep secrets anyway? Is that lying?
Hoax within a hoax, within a hoax, within a hoax. JMO :)
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Yes I think that secrets /revelations in the scriptures are being revealed gradually. Only God knows the future and all the secrets and He reveals them in due time, in a certain moment to certain people. Then when things are revealed for all people to see, the real test begins because not everybody will believe. I sometimes feel like this hoax is a metaphor/allegory/parallel of the Divine plan. There are a lot of similarities.
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Yes I think that secrets /revelations in the scriptures are being revealed gradually. Only God knows the future and all the secrets and He reveals them in due time, in a certain moment to certain people. Then when things are revealed for all people to see, the real test begins because not everybody will believe. I sometimes feel like this hoax is a metaphor/allegory/parallel of the Divine plan. There are a lot of similarities.
Thanks Sarahli. :)
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@keyboardwizz, amateur interpretations and experimentations within a multicontextual approach are not showing the results of a real research at all and that is why "your" project got out of hand and looked lame from the beginning.
Game going out of hands?
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@keyboardwizz, amateur interpretations and experimentations within a multicontextual approach are not showing the results of a real research at all and that is why "your" project got out of hand and looked lame from the beginning.
Game going out of hands?
It never is or was a game for me, and if you've read my post above you'll read that I've used information based on knowledge I gathered the last 20 years, so calling that "amateur and experimentation " is clearly a lack of insight or interest. As I stated above T.S. only scratches the surface on multicontextual research, so if mine looked lame what would you call his ??
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An experiment to fans?, On the internet is very easy to deceive (if I agree that everyone is free to believe what they want), but this forum is easier to do it because at stake here are people's emotions.
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@keyboardwizz, amateur interpretations and experimentations within a multicontextual approach are not showing the results of a real research at all and that is why "your" project got out of hand and looked lame from the beginning.
Game going out of hands?
It never is or was a game for me, and if you've read my post above you'll read that I've used information based on knowledge I gathered the last 20 years, so calling that "amateur and experimentation " is clearly a lack of insight or interest. As I stated above T.S. only scratches the surface on multicontextual research, so if mine looked lame what would you call his ??
I see a pattern in TS´s posts. Event anounced previously-->event happening withing the predicted time, which lead me to think that there is a link between TS and MJ events.
This pattern I could not see in yours, since your actvity was taking place after the latest TS redirection.
Come on, was too obvious ;)
Now we need to find out who is behind BOW, Cassandra Gretchen and the other posers :lol:
Confess now or keep silent for the rest of your life :evil:
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This is a reply on the thisisalsoit on november 14th
Redirected to : viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15242&start=25#p263414 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15242&start=25#p263414)
In the official version of Breaking News, I hear
1:34 fakin' fakin' breakin' the news.
I've realized that this TIAI redirect about the Orson Welles broadcast of War of the Worlds (The Greatest Hoaxes ever), was timed perfectly prior to Breaking News . The War of the Worlds broadcast was done as a series of news bulletins about Martians landing in New Jersey. Breaking News starts with news bulletins and was supposedly recorded in New Jersey. The War of the Worlds broadcast made Orson Welles famous around the world and the question over the authenticity of Breaking News has people listening to and comparing Micheal Jackson's voice which promotes all his music not just this new album.
There is also controversy over the unauthorised use of the Prince symbol, just as there was when Paul Anka claimed ownership of the This is It song. Ooops – it’s hard to believe Sony could be so careless. Key people at Sony have to be involved in the hoax and TS had to know what was going to happen with the song when this redirect was made – right?
On the 9th:
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
https://twitter.com/#!/thisisalmostit/s ... 9385871360 (https://twitter.com/#!/thisisalmostit/status/2089789385871360)
Nuff said.........
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I don´t understand. what do you want to say?
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I don't suppose you mean all this is a hoax in itself keyboardwizz? ;) Or that because the redirect pointed to the Orson Welles hoax just before Breaking News was released some kind of inside info was at play? Not easy to accept considering....
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First of all, please use the quote button the right way, now it seems that Gema said:
"This whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)"
While this is my quote, and I made this statement as my personal view on the whole hoax, so it has nothing to do with the situation that's going on right now. And yes you can see my twitter experience as a social experience and it gave me a good insight in gullibility and interpretations of quotes and redirects.
Third, I was asked to stop but I had my own reasons for it to continue, when you read my posts on other threads you can clearly see my intentions and opinions, I don't wan't drama on this thread, thisisalmostit has been and will be a positive experience.
For synchronicity and multicontextual research you really have to do your own investigation, it involves a lot of reading,research and a totaly new way of looking at the world , but it's a very rewarding experience for me. It involves studying symbols, etymology, history, astrology, mystisicm, the occult, psychology etc. All of these are subjects I'm fascinated with for decades now, but with the multicontextual research all this knowledge finally fits together.
"This whole experience is an example how a collective consciousness (the people aware of the hoax) create a new "reality " (Michael is alive)"
Keyboardwizz, I know very well where the underlined quote came from. It is clear I was referring to you, but for the benefit of those who might have skipped your explanation, I am grateful you stressed it was your quote.
Like I said, I didn't follow you, TS, or anyone who came here saying they had info on the possible hoax or that they are insider. The reason I mentioned your quote is because thisisalmostit sounds in the best case, like an experiment; in the worst case, like a mind game. You have proven my point with your experiment, and somehow I am thankful you started this. Everything happens for a reason...
You see, I am 50/50 on the whole hoax idea. I am just researching and waiting for tangible proof of a hoax. I know there is a lot of info that points toward a hoax, but well I think I am one of those who needs to see MJ telling me himself lol.
Now may I ask you, does your analysis influence your opinion in the hoax? Do you believe MJ is alive? Anyway, did your social experience of thisisalmostit have anything to do with proving or disproving MJ is alive? I mean all this in a personal level, your perception, not in trying to disprove or prove a hoax publicly. Sorry if I ask you something you might have already answered, but I am just too lazy and tired to look through the thread.
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This experience foremost showed me how clues are interpreted, sometimes I tweeted something and I would read explanations I never thought of, and those where just single words sended in cyberspace. I even was analyzed by someone and most of the meanings he/she gave to the tweets where totally off........ I even think there is a posibility that some of my "followers" still believe that I'm Michael even after my revelation, and what shocked me even more is how people confuse assumtions and facts. I firmly believe in the power of words and think a lot of "secrets "in this world can be unveiled by going back to the true origin of those words. Sadly nowadays the world is lost in translation...
So it did shed a different light on T.S. , because he even took it a step further by re-directing to posts of members here by which he literally is directing the things we should look into. So I'm not calling him a fraud or anything, but his redirects are in no way a proof that Michael is alive.
So his intentions or validity can only be proven after a revelation or BAM.
For me personally there still isn't any solid evidence that Michael is alive, but no evidence he's dead either, so I'm totally with you : 5050
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LOL single words...imagine what a huge "blog-like" post can do... I dont know whether TS is someone who knows a bit more beyond a few Google searches. I do read his posts, but just out of curiosity. Who knows if one day I'll follow him :D .
Now something I'm certain of is that people like the attention they get when they post something that sounds interesting. When you post and other members reply agreeing to your post or flattering it, this boosts your ego. The power of words...:) And that's good in a sense, but not when you do it to trick others or just seeking attention.
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It's time to lock this one as well. I hope that locking all these threads will bring back some peace back to the board.