Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => This Is It => Kenny Ortega => Topic started by: mjfansince4 on April 28, 2010, 02:35:20 AM

Title: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: mjfansince4 on April 28, 2010, 02:35:20 AM
so you know how you get on youtube and you watch one video and then that leads to another and then another...yeah well on my random quest of michael videos, i stumbled across this beauty.

i know the sound is off, but that's not really the point. this has to be before 2000 because the speaker is talking about michael doing a benefit concert with other artists "before the millennium."  what's interesting is that the speaker says one of his partners is kenny ortega. now, this may be a different kenny ortega than the one who "directed" TII, but who knows. listen at .08

[youtube:j10ib3v2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM7L5GMgiEM&feature=related[/youtube:j10ib3v2]


you know, a lot of people believe this hoax has been planned for many years. maybe michael picked out his "director" before 2000?
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: msteetee34 on April 28, 2010, 02:51:41 AM
I'm sure it's probably the same Kenny Ortega.  I don't think Ortega is really a common name.  So that means MJ met him before 2000.  I know MJ also took his children to see the high school musical cast which Kenny Ortega was involved with.  That's why I believe Michael really trusted Kenny Ortega because I'm sure if he knew him this long they probably developed some sort of friendship.  When I watched This is It movie I really felt that there was a connection with those two.  I think MJ really did trust Kenny and I wouldn't doubt it if this plan has been in effect for a while now.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: PinkTopaz on April 28, 2010, 02:51:57 AM
Oh my God- I was just looking at Image Search pics on Goog and I came across one from I think 2007 where Michael was with KENNY! (I noticed it because Michael was wearing yellow and he never wears yellow, at least not anymore!) And I said to my siblings "Hey, what's he doing with Kenny when he was in Vegas a few years ago?"  My, my..
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: sunrise on April 28, 2010, 02:57:02 AM
"Together with Michael Jackson, he created and designed the Dangerous World Tour 1992-1993 and the HIStory World Tour 1996-1997"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Ortega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Ortega)
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: foreveryoung on April 28, 2010, 02:57:42 AM
eeeeeeek how scary I was j ust about to post this exact same subject before I realised someone else had!!!

I thought this bloke in this picture looked like kenny o. This pic is from black or white video shoot, stole it from another thread lol  :oops:
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: msteetee34 on April 28, 2010, 03:02:14 AM
Quote from: "sunrise"
"Together with Michael Jackson, he created and designed the Dangerous World Tour 1992-1993 and the HIStory World Tour 1996-1997"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Ortega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Ortega)

Wow I didn't know they went that far back.  That's why I felt their connection in the movie.  MJ trusted Kenny.  Some people think Kenny O. is no good but I feel opposite.  Especially now knowing that he worked on Michael's Dangerous and History tours.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: msteetee34 on April 28, 2010, 03:07:26 AM
Quote from: "foreveryoung"
eeeeeeek how scary I was j ust about to post this exact same subject before I realised someone else had!!!

I thought this bloke in this picture looked like kenny o. This pic is from black or white video shoot, stole it from another thread lol  :oops:

I think this is John Landis the director who worked on the Thriller video not Kenny O.  I believe John Landis was recently trying to sue MJ too (punk).
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: mjfansince4 on April 28, 2010, 03:08:54 AM
okay so we know that kenny and michael go back to at least 1992. if michael had begun thinking about this hoax idea in the late 80s, maybe beginning 90s, he had ample enough time to develop a trust (and maybe even test it) with kenny. it's my personal opinion that kenny is an accomplice, not an outsider or enemy. makes you think even harder about the tweets he writes. how sometimes they are odd in context and word usage...kenny and michael could be closer than originally thought.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: foreveryoung on April 28, 2010, 03:14:54 AM
Ah, my mistake it is John landis, he is credited as directing the black or white film. Sorry to cause any confusion. Heck they look alike tho lol (kenny and john i mean)
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 28, 2010, 08:37:45 AM
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Together with Michael Jackson, he created and designed the Dangerous World Tour 1992-1993 and the HIStory World Tour 1996-1997

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Ortega

From Wikipedia but, I think I have also heard this somewhere else too....
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 28, 2010, 08:43:06 AM
Found this too.

http://http://kennyortega.com/blog/past-projects/concerts/music-concerts-directing/michael-jackson-dangerous-tour/

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The tour was staged and designed by Kenny Ortega, working directly with the late Michael Jackson.

Then it goes in to set up and details including the name of the man who flew the jetpack off the stage.

http://http://kennyortega.com/blog/past-projects/concerts/music-concerts-directing/michael-jacksons-history-tour/

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The tour was staged and designed by Kenny Ortega, working directly with the late Michael

Then goes into more detail. :)
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: jessicakthx on May 06, 2010, 03:15:25 AM
I'm kinda shocked that more people didn't know MJ & Kenny have worked together for a very long time.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 06, 2010, 03:56:37 AM
MJ using stunt doubles again.....I wonder who that is??????
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: farhatmjj on May 06, 2010, 04:13:47 AM
I didn't know that people didn't know that Kenny worked on Dangerous tour.  :roll:
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: dom on May 06, 2010, 07:58:25 AM
isnt that david gest's voice? well it sounds like him
hes a long term Jackson family friend, im sure he knows something too
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: PureLove on May 06, 2010, 09:35:05 AM
ohhh I LOVE Kenny. He's THE FIRST one who made me a beLIEver with his tweets full of clues :) He's a very long term friend of Michael and I'm sure Michael trusts him so much. And he's definitely in on the hoax. :)
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: lunation777 on May 06, 2010, 12:21:11 PM
Michael & Randy Phillips go way back too. There's a quote from Randy Phillips in the book "Michael Jackson: In His Own Words"...I don't have it with me at the moment because my friend is borrowing it, but do you remember when Michael did the promotion for LA Gear?
Randy Phillips arranged that.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on May 06, 2010, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
okay so we know that kenny and michael go back to at least 1992. if michael had begun thinking about this hoax idea in the late 80s, maybe beginning 90s, he had ample enough time to develop a trust (and maybe even test it) with kenny. it's my personal opinion that kenny is an accomplice, not an outsider or enemy. makes you think even harder about the tweets he writes. how sometimes they are odd in context and word usage...kenny and michael could be closer than originally thought.

Yes... his tweets have always been very suspicious! The most suspicious to me was the one in early september when he quoted Peter Pan.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 06, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: "jessicakthx"
I'm kinda shocked that more people didn't know MJ & Kenny have worked together for a very long time.

Me too..   :lol:  :lol:

My deep opinion is that Kenny has used this situation to his own benefit..  bad feelings about that man at the moment.  Watch the ones with the idle smiles...     listen to Michaels words.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: Tink.I.Am on May 06, 2010, 05:23:49 PM
this is what i know..
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Ortega was Michael Jackson’s director and creative partner. He directed both the “Dangerous” and “HIStory” world tours in the 1990s and numerous videos and shows for Jackson.
 http://kennyortega.com/blog/about/ (http://kennyortega.com/blog/about/)
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: PinkTopaz on May 06, 2010, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: "foreveryoung"
eeeeeeek how scary I was j ust about to post this exact same subject before I realised someone else had!!!

I thought this bloke in this picture looked like kenny o. This pic is from black or white video shoot, stole it from another thread lol  :oops:
Er, didn't anyone else notice that there's TWO MICHAELS in that picture?
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: RK on May 06, 2010, 11:39:17 PM
I like Kenny.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: farhatmjj on May 07, 2010, 01:06:38 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "foreveryoung"
eeeeeeek how scary I was j ust about to post this exact same subject before I realised someone else had!!!

I thought this bloke in this picture looked like kenny o. This pic is from black or white video shoot, stole it from another thread lol  :oops:
Er, didn't anyone else notice that there's TWO MICHAELS in that picture?
yeah, they said the picture was from another thread. can anyone give out the link for that thread? interesting stuff! :)
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: melody on May 07, 2010, 01:18:13 AM
Watch this video: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/ ... 0#33454227 (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/32537060#33454227)

Around 2:28, Kenny says Michael has been his friend and creative partner for over 20 years.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: this1crazygirl on May 07, 2010, 01:26:12 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "foreveryoung"
eeeeeeek how scary I was j ust about to post this exact same subject before I realised someone else had!!!

I thought this bloke in this picture looked like kenny o. This pic is from black or white video shoot, stole it from another thread lol  :oops:
Er, didn't anyone else notice that there's TWO MICHAELS in that picture?

there has been 2 michaels on sets for along time, used when MJ was getting around. i always thought for crowd control :geek:
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 07, 2010, 02:17:29 AM
http://kennyortega.com/blog/ (http://kennyortega.com/blog/)

Has anyone been following Kenny's site? Not just his twitter account. The picture caught my attention. Also pictured (but not shown in my picture) is MJ off to the right in a pose where he's pointing towards the V. Maybe this picture means nothing - it just caught my attention and wonder if anyone knows how long it's been up?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Was Michael Involved with Kenny Ortega before?
Post by: somekindofsign on May 07, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
I´ve seen this but not the exact source:

Originally Posted by www.michaeljackson.com (http://www.michaeljackson.com)

Dubbed the Billion Dollar Maestro by Daily Variety, Kenny Ortega has conquered Feature Films, Television, Stage, Concerts and massive Live Events such as The Olympics with equal excellence. As Michael Jackson's director and creative partner on THIS IS IT as well as the previous Jackson concert tours DANGEROUS and HISTORY, Mr. Ortega has been a friend, trusted colleague and collaborator of Michael Jackson's for over 20 years.

Kenny will segue from directing the film version of THIS IS IT to directing the Paramount feature film Footloose this fall. The multiple Emmy Award winner famously directed and visualized Disney's billion-dollar High School Musical franchise of films both for Television and as a Feature Film. Kenny directed the fastest selling concert tour in history, the Hannah Montana / Miley Cyrus "Best of Both Worlds Tour" featuring The Jonas Bros. This tour broke numerous records and extended its sell out tour by more than 20 shows. He also directed to tremendous praise the Opening and Closing Ceremonies for the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in Salt Lake City, Utah.
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