Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Jacksonology on April 15, 2010, 01:22:25 PM

Title: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Jacksonology on April 15, 2010, 01:22:25 PM
Katherine Jackson shopped for sleeping bags the week Michael ''died'' [youtube:3biv10wo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aU_vAtw-Q[/youtube:3biv10wo] could this be significant? the definiton of a sleeping bag: A sleeping bag is a protective "bag" for a person to sleep in, essentially a blanket that can be closed with a zipper or similar means, and functions as a bed in situations where it is impractical to carry around a full bed (e.g. when camping, hiking, hill walking or climbing). ...
a blanket can be closed with a zipper hmm doesn't that sound familiar: (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/data/articleimgs/10164-in-this-video-frame-grab-from-knbc4-video-the-body-of-pop-singer-michael-jackson-is-unloaded-from-a.jpg) doesn't that resemble a sleeping bag?(http://campfirewilly.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/marmot-eco-pro-15-recycled-sleeping-bag.jpg) it's tied in a knot (zipper) ''a sleeping bag is a protective bag for someone to sleep in'' hmm remember the wiggle? [youtube:3biv10wo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmo7rFuA3n0&feature=related[/youtube:3biv10wo] so Michael was protected in this ''sleeping bag'' in this situation. just a thought i wanted to share...
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: JukeBox on April 15, 2010, 05:58:41 PM
The shape of that particular sleeping bag really does look like the bag they took out from the heli!

At first I assumed the sleeping bags were for the children since they'd be moving to stay with her.. But Encino must have more than enough rooms unless they were all camping in one room for each other's company or something..

From the hoax perspective it does seem odd that she's buying sleeping bags...
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: scorpionchik on April 16, 2010, 12:39:37 AM
wasn't she shopping after Michael's dead show. When the 911, "dead' body in the bag off the home, helicopter were over? How could here be connection? Or, could not Michael prepare everything he needs before his "death"? Of course, it is not natural and suspicious that mother was able to go shopping and seems very calm but I don't think it has conection to the "show".
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on April 16, 2010, 06:24:08 AM
:?:  :?:  :?:
is that same sheet that was used in Beat It in TII???
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: 2good2btrue on April 16, 2010, 06:52:31 AM
I always thought the white sheet, was symbolic of Jesus Christ, and Jesus was ressurected  :!:  :!:  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  As always, with L.O.V.E  xox
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: whatyourheartsays on April 16, 2010, 07:31:32 AM
I think Katherine is a strong woman. I guess she went shopping for those sleeping bags so everyone can have place to sleep when coming home. You know, it's a big family, with kids. I mean, she surely knew Michael's death would bring people at her house. Maybeshe wanted to have it done by herself, some way to keep going instead of staying home. I think she prefers action and being strong then staying home crying. So we could be thinking of the hoax, but I guess if Michael was dead, she would have done just the same. You know she is the Woman. In charge of the whole family somehow...she needs to be like this.
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Kirsche on April 16, 2010, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
I think Katherine is a strong woman. I guess she went shopping for those sleeping bags so everyone can have place to sleep when coming home. You know, it's a big family, with kids. I mean, she surely knew Michael's death would bring people at her house. Maybeshe wanted to have it done by herself, some way to keep going instead of staying home. I think she prefers action and being strong then staying home crying. So we could be thinking of the hoax, but I guess if Michael was dead, she would have done just the same. You know she is the Woman. In charge of the whole family somehow...she needs to be like this.

I don't think so...And I don't think that she would have bought only four! sleepings bags, when the family is so huge, you know?
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on April 16, 2010, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I always thought the white sheet, was symbolic of Jesus Christ, and Jesus was ressurected  :!:  :!:  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  As always, with L.O.V.E  xox


[youtube:2z1158xc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyw0nNYqdo[/youtube:2z1158xc]
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Jacksonology on April 16, 2010, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I always thought the white sheet, was symbolic of Jesus Christ, and Jesus was ressurected  :!:  :!:  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  As always, with L.O.V.E  xox


[youtube:24cjdubb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyw0nNYqdo[/youtube:24cjdubb]
great video! 8-)
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: whatyourheartsays on April 16, 2010, 02:34:58 PM
So what ? You hink she bought 4 sleeping bags to get Michael and his 3 kids, sleeping in the attic while they were all pretending ? :D
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Sarahli on April 16, 2010, 04:08:02 PM
This sleeping bag looks like an Egyptian case, a mummy bag. These bags are used for cold weathers nothing to see with Egypt here...but it makes me think of the mummy on the spider where Michael is hiding in TII.
4 sleepings bags = 4 mummies ? The Mummy 4: Rise of the Aztec ?  :lol:  Sorry.
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Aintnosunshine on April 16, 2010, 04:33:52 PM
Since MJ was well known for not sleeping  O N  but sometimes beneath his bed (in a sleepig bag) her purchase might have to do with his kids  ----   and himself maybe?!
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Kirsche on April 16, 2010, 04:38:31 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Since MJ was well known for not sleeping  O N  but sometimes beneath his bed (in a sleepig bag) her purchase might have to do with his kids  ----   and himself maybe?!


right! 4 Sleeping bags...but three kids
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on April 16, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Since MJ was well known for not sleeping  O N  but sometimes beneath his bed (in a sleepig bag) her purchase might have to do with his kids  ----   and himself maybe?!


Why would MJ want to sleep under his bed :?   Do you have a link?

With L.O.V.E. xxx
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Kirsche on April 16, 2010, 04:42:54 PM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Since MJ was well known for not sleeping  O N  but sometimes beneath his bed (in a sleepig bag) her purchase might have to do with his kids  ----   and himself maybe?!


Why would MJ want to sleep under his bed :?   Do you have a link?

With L.O.V.E. xxx[/


Michael often slept beside the bed in a sleeping bed, because children, who had a slept over there, slept in his bed, and so he slept beside the bead
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: msteetee34 on April 17, 2010, 12:25:40 AM
I remember seeing on a tv special about Michael that he liked to sleep outside.  He had several tepees like native american style placed all around Neverland.  They said he would often sleep in those tepees.  I found that interesting.  He liked nature climbing trees things like that.  Also they showed footage of his bed in his bedroom and he had a glitter comforter on it.  That man know he love some sparkle and bling. :D  On another note that photo of that sleeping bag looks the exact same shape as MJ when he was taken out the helicopter in the white sheet.  That's odd.
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: new tiux on April 17, 2010, 01:06:46 AM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
I think Katherine is a strong woman. I guess she went shopping for those sleeping bags so everyone can have place to sleep when coming home. You know, it's a big family, with kids. I mean, she surely knew Michael's death would bring people at her house. Maybeshe wanted to have it done by herself, some way to keep going instead of staying home. I think she prefers action and being strong then staying home crying. So we could be thinking of the hoax, but I guess if Michael was dead, she would have done just the same. You know she is the Woman. In charge of the whole family somehow...she needs to be like this.
Well, I think that day after your son death no mother can be that strong to go shopping. She could ask anyone else to do it...sleeping bags or milk or whatever....The last thing I would do in that case is to go out and pretend that everything is ok. My god, they have a huge family and they sent a old women who has just lost her son to get sleeping bags? Of course it was good news for us :) acting like this just confirmed that everything is ok ;)
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: MashMike on April 17, 2010, 10:31:56 AM
Well, I think that day after your son death no mother can be that strong to go shopping. She could ask anyone else to do it...sleeping bags or milk or whatever....The last thing I would do in that case is to go out and pretend that everything is ok. My god, they have a huge family and they sent a old women who has just lost her son to get sleeping bags? Of course it was good news for us :) acting like this just confirmed that everything is ok ;)
I WILL NEVER LET GO!



10000% agree
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: WendyE on April 17, 2010, 09:20:30 PM
This whole "bag" thing has bugged me from the beginning. Or should I say the absence of a bag. When we saw the pictures and supposed live feed of the body being taken to the coroners office, the body was not in a body bag!!! I have worked in hospitals for over 30 years and there are certain procedures for preparing, storing, moving and transporting a decedent. First all medical items are removed, ie: IV's monitoring devices tubing etc. Then, the nursing staff with cleanse the body. If possible dentures are placed back into the mouth and eyes are taped shut. The body is a straight as they can possibly make it. The arms are placed not over the body but straight down the sides. Feet are bound together and tags are placed on the wrist and ankle for ID purpose. Then, the body in shrouded with a blanket and moved to the morgue. However, once the funeral director or CORONER arrives to take the body, IT IS PLACED IN A BODY BAG THEN ANOTHER BLANKET OVER THE BAG!!! Never ever ever is a body turned over in just the sheet wrappings. The bag keeps bodily fluids from contaminating anything or anyone it may come in contact with. There are strict guidelines about this. So to have a body out on camera the most FAMOUS person on the freaking planet and it's in just a sheet?! Give me a break! :lol:
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: mjboogie on April 17, 2010, 09:23:27 PM
1. Paris, 2. MJ 3. Prince, 4 Blanket!!! = 4 sleeping bags. ;)
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: loma on April 17, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
1. Paris, 2. MJ 3. Prince, 4 Blanket!!! = 4 sleeping bags. ;)
EHHHHH-xactly.
 ;)  :lol:
Thanks for this awesome thread Ziggy!
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: mjboogie on July 25, 2010, 08:49:51 AM
So we can debunk the fact that the sleeping bags were for family flying in to the Encino home from various places.
Yep I say the same MJ and his kids because I am sure (never been there) But i am sure that the Encino home is huge! And has many bedrooms and many beds for various family members. Also who was to say everybody would have been staying at Encino anyway.......members could have scattered and stayed with the brothers in their homes right? So that is the only logical thing about the sleeping bags that I can see!

Also doed anyone remember one of MJ's friends ( I cant remember who) but this guy says that once MJ went to UTAH for a while............and NOBODY KNEW HE WAS THERE!!!! The guys said it tripped him out. ;) So to me if MJ could go to UTAH for a while without even being noticed or caught well then..........
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: tekamjforever on July 25, 2010, 09:11:41 AM
I really do not know what to think ... maybe she did not have enough beds to house three more grandchildren, would eventually total seven grandchildren, and she also wanted to just "airing" the head out shopping and not think about sad things ... It is difficult to judge ...  :roll:
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: MJ_Facts on July 25, 2010, 09:29:30 AM
thanks for closing my thread - I didn't know that there was already a thread referring to the sleeping bag issue.

Look, what I just found:
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1018 (http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1018)

*Strata-Sphere*: Did Michael sleep primarily in his room, or did he occasionally sleep elsewhere?

Mr. Wegner: Sometimes Michael would sleep outside of his bedroom. In the Indian Village area he had two Teepees. Occasionally (if the weather was good) he would share this arrangement with children. (It should noted that 99% of the children were boys.)

 ;)
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: MJ_Facts on July 25, 2010, 09:33:04 AM
BTW, the pic from Jacksonology showing the "surfboard" doesn't resemble a surfboard anymore  :( And it is tied up with a knot????

This is a completely different picture!  :o
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: MJ_Facts on July 25, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
An apparently-unconcerned Jackson interjects: 'I slept on the floor. Was it a sleeping bag?'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... z0uiwyXGPZ (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-158342/Why-I-sleep-little-boys-Michael-Jackson.html#ixzz0uiwyXGPZ)

 ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: MJ_Facts on July 25, 2010, 02:29:49 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2279938/posts (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2279938/posts)

From the horrible Bashir documentary ...

Bashir: "That's not a worrying thing?"

Jackson: "Why should that be worrying, what's the criminal...who's Jack the Ripper in the room? There's some guy trying to heal a healing child ... I'm in a sleeping bag on the floor. "I gave him the bed because he has a brother named Star, so him and Star took the bed and I went along on the sleeping bag."
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Gina_PYT_ox on July 30, 2010, 04:13:20 AM
I agree... this is a completely different picture with the heli!
Before, there was no knot/tie on the sheet. Why is this picture different?!

Maybe it was released to throw us off course? To make us feel like we are wrong?
NO

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: lacta89 on July 30, 2010, 05:40:56 AM
I also believe that a mother who's son is dead is not going for shopping!! There was also a video of Katherine who had gone to fix her nails for the memorial service( Do you guys remember it?). Many years ago a close family friend died from cancer and his mother couldn't even walk let alone have a manicure !! As about the sleeping bags, the Encino house is surely big enough, but even if it wasn't they would have checked in to a hotel... They wouldn't let the guests to sleep in sleeping bags! I totally believe that the sleeping bags were for the children and Michael! Maybe he moved in to Neverland and there were no furniture yet  ;)  
Who knows? But definitely there are MANY things which are off 8-)
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: underthemoon on September 16, 2011, 02:48:54 AM
Just a silly thought...i read it on twitter and found this old treat...
Maybe it means....it wasn't me...i don't sleept in the bed, i sleept on the floor.... lolol/
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on September 16, 2011, 08:36:56 AM
I always said this, Katherine had body guards to go buy sleeping bags. It does not take a genius to buy sleeping bags. She did not had to go out to buy them.. Especially she knew that the paps would be everywhere, she would be a target..

This was all planned very carefully. I am a mother and God forbid I would lose a son, I will not be able to go out the next day to buy a black sweater for the funeral little a sleeping bag.. So I say this was part of the hoax...
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: reveron1958 on September 16, 2011, 09:27:25 AM
This thread confuses the hell out of me!

It was well documented in the press at the time that the children had been 'camping' in the garden to give them something different to do after Michael 'died'.

They camped with their cousins and I guess it was supposed to be a diversion for them and a bonding experience with their cousins, who although they knew, they had not lived with before.

From a hoax point of view it was perfectly fine for Katherine to pop out to the shops for camping equipment, but if you are of the view MJ actually died, yes it would be a bit odd she had to go herself, but you could also say she was throwing herself into being a good grandmother and guardian for the kids and needed to do something rather than sit in the house weeping.

I imagine she's a very strong lady and so even if I believed he had died, I can totally see her being able to do this for the children.
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: peggy99 on September 18, 2011, 03:31:30 AM
I don't care who you are, a Jackson or John Smith from down the road, you just wouldn't go shopping less than 24 hours after your child had "died"
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on September 19, 2011, 07:31:51 PM
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I don't care who you are, a Jackson or John Smith from down the road, you just wouldn't go shopping less than 24 hours after your child had "died"
/bravo/  very well said..
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: Mish1981 on September 19, 2011, 07:47:55 PM
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I don't care who you are, a Jackson or John Smith from down the road, you just wouldn't go shopping less than 24 hours after your child had "died"

OR go and get your nails done... just thought I'd add that in too.
Title: Re: Sleeping Bags Connection
Post by: bec on September 19, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
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Just a silly thought...i read it on twitter and found this old treat...
Maybe it means....it wasn't me...i don't sleept in the bed, i sleept on the floor.... lolol/


I agree your's is an interesting theory, but this thread is from April 2010. Please start a new thread on your topic, underthemoon. I'm going to lock this one.
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