Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: hopehelps on December 05, 2009, 08:48:28 PM
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it just randomly came to me. do you remember the false call of his death, and it was later announced false in DECEMBER so maybe some of the scenes could have been shot in december where the wreaths were, and someone could have called the death a little early.
i dont know it just came and i thought i should share.
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This definitely could tie in with the theory that the original hoax was due to take place last year.
I wonder if there has been any word from the people in the tour van? (that was present when the ambulance was outside)
Does anyone know?
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WoW, never thought of that :o not one of the 'tour van" people have made a statement either. Hmmm...actors too? :?
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There was a show coming on for weeks after MJ's death entitled "Michael Jackson in his Final Days" on the TV guide channel on comcast cable I am not sure which channel it would be as I know all of us are in different countries and cities ... but in this show, there is one lady from the tour bus talking about that day. Maybe someone can find it and upload but that is definitley the title of it. :?
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I Agree the original hoax was put in place in Dec 08. However it did not do to well same cause of death
cardiac arrest. Which means that when it was done the second time in 06/09 they had time to do it right.
I swear that was the most dramatic day ever. First TMZ was called, then local stations then CNN. They had everyone in the world's attention this time. To me it was just like a entertainer would do, get everyone's attention, and then BAM!!! It was like watching a action packed thriller and unfortunately
the death scenario was the cliff hanger.
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I knew I'd read or seen something about those wreaths before, so I hunted it down. Read the blog on the page below, written by a neighbor of MJ's. He made a few videos outside of MJ's house, and was also curious as to why the wreaths were up for so long. The video about that is on his blog. He asks why the wreaths are up, and the guard (or security or whoever that is on the other end of the intercom) gives him an answer. Thought you might like to see. :D
http://blog.ovguide.com/?p=266 (http://blog.ovguide.com/?p=266)
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if it has already mentioned .......
it is strange why this weihnachtsdekor also in the house ......
one saw pictures after his "deadly" :? :roll:
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Good point. I've always thought that the fake news spread by that radio station on December 24, 2008 was not a coincidence and now that you've mentioned, maybe it's possible that the pics were taken on December last year... this would explain the Christmas wreaths...
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lou
I suppose this he was start or this idea has brought
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lou
I suppose this he was start or this idea has brought
Hello! I see what you mean. Maybe they tried to start everything on December but it didn't work.
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Maybe he realized he couldn't do it last year because he wasn't in the public spotlight, more money this way (I know it sounds selfish on his behalf, like *i want all the money i can make out of people mourning* but it's not selfish at all imo, it is securing his children's future)
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Michael loves Christmas, however is not usual, therefore, in June to decorating.
People why only :roll: :?:
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you might be right. Maybe that's why he left the Christmas decorations out till june so that it would be funny when the ambulance video comes out! But why june?
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so that it wouldn't be funny when the video made in december would brake through
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[quote = "andrea_garay2005"] Könnten Sie Recht haben. Vielleicht ist das, warum er den Weihnachtsschmuck aus, bis Juni, so dass. es lustig werden, wenn der Krankenwagen Video-Ausgang kommt bliebe! Aber warum Juni? [/ Quote]
the house also was inside a decorated, it also is here in a contribution a too see,the contribution today came in...
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WoW, never thought of that :o not one of the 'tour van" people have made a statement either. Hmmm...actors too? :?
WHAT MORE SILENT PEOPLE :o cute kitty,meet BAXTER
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Nevertheless, the tour bus was a joke :lol: :lol: :lol:
Of accidental way these came at the time ...... :lol: :lol: :lol:
By chance exactly at the right time
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yeah, I know there were decoratios inside too!
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I always believed that the Christmas wreaths on the gates in June was a clue that Michael will make his return on Christmas Day...Just my opinion :)
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However, this would be wonderful :cry: ........ white it signifies what ;)
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But I saw a video somewhere on youtube where they are talkin about the wreaths on the gate. Because it was easter and he still had his christmas wreaths on the gate :D
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I read somewhere he left the decorations on cos Blanket loved them very much ; I don't know if it's true though :?
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I read somewhere he left the decorations on cos Blanket loved them very much ; I don't know if it's true though :?
Yes, i read that to. Blanket love christmas so much, so he did not want them to take the decorations down :) :?:
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this is affectionate geste from daddy
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Very interesting, and his 'death' is exactly six months before/after Christmas...
So... Are the pics old (from last year) or is it a clue about his comeback...
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Good point. I've always thought that the fake news spread by that radio station on December 24, 2008 was not a coincidence and now that you've mentioned, maybe it's possible that the pics were taken on December last year... this would explain the Christmas wreaths...
yeah that is exactly what i was thinking. he may have kept the wreaths there to avoid suspicion of them not being there
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There was a show coming on for weeks after MJ's death entitled "Michael Jackson in his Final Days" on the TV guide channel on comcast cable I am not sure which channel it would be as I know all of us are in different countries and cities ... but in this show, there is one lady from the tour bus talking about that day. Maybe someone can find it and upload but that is definitley the title of it. :?
Don't know, if it was posted befor - just started to read the topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT0I1YcOQk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT0I1YcOQk)
By the way - it's my YT channel. If you have questions about other clips, ask me ;-)
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I hated watching that, it felt all so real all over again like when I 1st heard the news before I started noticing something was definetly not right. :cry: Thank you for posting the link though I dont like to miss anything.
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I read somewhere he left the decorations on cos Blanket loved them very much ; I don't know if it's true though :?
I knew I'd read or seen something about those wreaths before, so I hunted it down. Read the blog on the page below, written by a neighbor of MJ's. He made a few videos outside of MJ's house, and was also curious as to why the wreaths were up for so long. The video about that is on his blog. He asks why the wreaths are up, and the guard (or security or whoever that is on the other end of the intercom) gives him an answer. Thought you might like to see. :D
http://blog.ovguide.com/?p=266 (http://blog.ovguide.com/?p=266)
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I knew I'd read or seen something about those wreaths before, so I hunted it down. Read the blog on the page below, written by a neighbor of MJ's. He made a few videos outside of MJ's house, and was also curious as to why the wreaths were up for so long. The video about that is on his blog. He asks why the wreaths are up, and the guard (or security or whoever that is on the other end of the intercom) gives him an answer. Thought you might like to see. :D
http://blog.ovguide.com/?p=266 (http://blog.ovguide.com/?p=266)
Nice, but oopppsss...... look at the garbage bin at the end of the video. Even if its only one it pops up here as well makes you wonder ?????
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Soooo are these pics from last year ?? huh I don't get it...
:? :? :? :?
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/wreaths-415x316.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/06/26/jacksonhomemedia460.jpg)
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I still think everybody should see the "Death of a moonwalker" videos on youtube it would explain a lot regarding to the ambulance,the tourbus etc :)
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Soooo are these pics from last year ?? huh I don't get it...
:? :? :? :?
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/wreaths-415x316.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/06/26/jacksonhomemedia460.jpg)
I don't get either :?. I was under the impression that he rented the house starting januari 2009 ??.
So why leave the decoration on if you just move in in januari ?????
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is that the woman from the tourist video in tom's video?
the one whos selling the maps?
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of course this live had mj, nevertheless, only since januar 09
this I also thought
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Blanket loves Christmas, he didn't want to take them down. Well, maybe it's true. I don't know...seems like the guard was a bit sarcastic to me IMO in his voice tones. But I could be wrong. I just still think it was odd. I have known of people leaving their lights up all year round. Maybe they just didn't feel like taking them down and just keep them there for the next upcoming holiday but decorative wreaths such as this....I don't know.
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Has anyone thought about calling the tourbus company and asking them if they happened to be in the neighborhood on June 25th? Or possibly the 24th? Maybe they have different tour routes on different days. If they say " No we were not on Carolwood drive on June 24th or 25th" then....well.......
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this would be a good idea....
who could do this, however? :?:
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this would be a good idea....
who could do this, however? :?:
Maybe even ask for an itinerary for the last 12 months of tours? I forget what the bus company was called.....I'll call if someone can find the name of the tour.
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Wow ,this would be great from you...
I have sometimes with 1. MJHD about that read, however????
Can determine on the tour bus video / photo the names and therefore the enterprise... ;)
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About those two photos that were posted (which I do not believe I have ever seen before)...
I'm on a break at work so I just have a minute and don't have time to research.
In the posted photos, the bows on the wreaths look newer (as in not faded) than in other photos I have seen. Also, there seems to be alot of grass between the brick pavers on the driveway. Is there alot of grass in other photos/videos of that day? Can anyone tell if the greenery in the wreaths is real or artificial? How about the trees/shrubs in the photos... do they look like they would in that part of CA at that time of year?
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/wreaths-415x316.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/06/26/jacksonhomemedia460.jpg)
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About those two photos that were posted (which I do not believe I have ever seen before)...
I'm on a break at work so I just have a minute and don't have time to research.
In the posted photos, the bows on the wreaths look newer (as in not faded) than in other photos I have seen. Also, there seems to be alot of grass between the brick pavers on the driveway. Is there alot of grass in other photos/videos of that day? Can anyone tell if the greenery in the wreaths is real or artificial? How about the trees/shrubs in the photos... do they look like they would in that part of CA at that time of year?
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/wreaths-415x316.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/06/26/jacksonhomemedia460.jpg)
You know what? I noticed the wreaths too look newer. I could have SWORN the wreaths on his gates had yellow or gold ribbin on them and not red!! I could be wrong though...
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good gedanke
I do not know like these are in this region in this season, however, the wreaths, however, look relatively real and freshly .... I have never before seen these photos today this 1. times seen
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Soooo are these pics from last year ?? huh I don't get it...
:? :? :? :?
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/wreaths-415x316.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/06/26/jacksonhomemedia460.jpg)
Where did you get these photos? Have a link?
And yes, the lady in Tom's video is Linda (I think that was her name), the map lady, whom we saw in the Starline Tours video from June 25th.
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this is interesting ......... also this lady :?
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Has anyone thought about calling the tourbus company and asking them if they happened to be in the neighborhood on June 25th? Or possibly the 24th? Maybe they have different tour routes on different days. If they say " No we were not on Carolwood drive on June 24th or 25th" then....well.......
great idea
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Has anyone thought about calling the tourbus company and asking them if they happened to be in the neighborhood on June 25th? Or possibly the 24th? Maybe they have different tour routes on different days. If they say " No we were not on Carolwood drive on June 24th or 25th" then....well.......
great idea
yeeah maybe it was a prepared tour bus :?
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I wonder if Ian halperin had anything to do with the hoax that was announced last december? Ian must have made the claim that Michael only had 6 months to live 24th December 2008 (same day as the pre-hoax). Then BAM! 6 months and 1 day later Michael diappears. I wonder if the two incidences are connected or is it just coincidence :?:
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this becomes over and over again discussed....
a strange chance or I does not believe in so many chances :roll:
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http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/xy1Hxl-L ... DY6hXrC0ig (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/xy1Hxl-LUwU/General+Views+Michael+Jackson+House+Moments/ODY6hXrC0ig)
I thought maybe we need more pictures (Wreaths, tour bus)
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http://www.starlinetours.com/ (http://www.starlinetours.com/)
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I wonder if Ian halperin had anyhthing to do with the hoax that was announced last december? Ian must have made the claim that Michael only had 6 months to live 24th December 2008 (same day as the pre-hoax). Then BAM! 6 months and 1 day later Michael diappears. I wonder if the two incidences are connected or is it just coincidence :?:
this becomes over and over again discussed... a strange chance or I does not believe in so many chances
Hello! I agree with angelshadow, I think there are too many coincidences in this case. They can't be just coincidences.
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Lou
We must hold this setting ....... only we will not despair ;)
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the_gloved_one:
I wonder if Ian halperin had anyhthing to do with the hoax
Off the subject but wasn't he the author that wrote that "trashy"(<---- excuse my french) book about MJ?
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/4fd234575c/tom-gregory-at-michael-jackson-s-home-part-3?rel=player
Did you guys see part 3 of Tom's series? It's pretty strange that Michael would be sooo adamant about keeping the wreaths up despite the neighbors' disapproval. I mean, he was so kind and graceful that I would think he would not want to upset his neighbors, despite how much little Blanket may have loved Christmas. I think there was a bigger reason for having left the wreaths up all year long...like maybe a clue or something purposeful.
It's possible that Michael refused to take the wreaths down because he wanted to please Blanket, but by doing that, would he have been sending a message to his kids that it was okay to break the rules? Again, I think there was a bigger reason for leaving them up.
I don't know about you guys, but this rebel side of Michael makes him more sexy than ever :oops: :P
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by angelshadow » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:31 pm
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/xy1Hxl-L (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/xy1Hxl-L) ... DY6hXrC0ig
I thought maybe we need more pictures (Wreaths, tour bus)
Yeah, they are there....the wreaths. hmmmm :?:
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I wonder if Ian halperin had anything to do with the hoax that was announced last december? Ian must have made the claim that Michael only had 6 months to live 24th December 2008 (same day as the pre-hoax). Then BAM! 6 months and 1 day later Michael diappears. I wonder if the two incidences are connected or is it just coincidence :?:
i dont belive in coincendences in this case. they are probably connected
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Well I don't care if Blanket likes them or not, you would just tell Blanket - tough it's not Christmas any more. Surely Michael would not be dictated to by Blanket. If my son (who is nearly 6) told me he wanted the Christmas decorations to stay up I would simply say no and I think any other sane person would too!
Another Clue I think.
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Well I don't care if Blanket likes them or not, you would just tell Blanket - tough it's not Christmas any more. Surely Michael would not be dictated to by Blanket. If my son (who is nearly 6) told me he wanted the Christmas decorations to stay up I would simply say no and I think any other sane person would too!
Another Clue I think.
yeah maybe an excuse but who said that though?
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Well I don't care if Blanket likes them or not, you would just tell Blanket - tough it's not Christmas any more. Surely Michael would not be dictated to by Blanket. If my son (who is nearly 6) told me he wanted the Christmas decorations to stay up I would simply say no and I think any other sane person would too!
Another Clue I think.
yeah maybe an excuse but who said that though?
We don't know why the Christmas wreaths were still up. Were they a clue? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe, just MAYBE, MJ wanted to make Blanket happy...and if leaving the wreaths up made him happy, why not do it? There aren't any "rules" about the wreaths. MJ could do whatever he wanted with the decorations. It doesn't have to be a matter of MJ being dictated to by Blanket. It can just be because Blanket loves Xmas, and MJ loves Blanket, therefore, the wreaths stayed up. We just do not, and probably never will, know exactly why they were there. But it's not logical to say MJ would just tell Blanket, "tough" and take them down. We have no way of knowing that.
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I think they were just decorations...if i had had such big and imposing gates maybe i would have liked to have wreaths there ...like a welcome to visitors.
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But why leave the wreaths on the gates? Why would Blanket care if they were still there? The decorations on the outside of the house are more for visitors and others to admire IMO. Fair enough if he wanted to leave the decs up inside the house but outside...weird.
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no, it must some signifying....it has a meaning :roll:
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But why leave the wreaths on the gates? Why would Blanket care if they were still there? The decorations on the outside of the house are more for visitors and others to admire IMO. Fair enough if he wanted to leave the decs up inside the house but outside...weird.
Have you ever seen people who leave their Xmas lights up for months on end after Xmas? I have...MANY times. In my town, there are at least a dozen homes I drive past every year that still have their lights up through Easter, and some even later. Heck, some folks leave them up year round because they're just too darn lazy to take them down!
Inside the house/outside the house, makes no difference to me. The wreaths were not hurting anyone. They aren't insulting or vulgar or anything, so there's no harm in leaving them up. If my 6 year old grandson wanted me to leave my wreath up year round, I WOULD! "Weird" is a very subjective word; what is weird to one person, is not necessarily weird to another. And considering how much MJ loves his kids, I see no reason to think he wouldn't leave his wreaths up for no other reason than because Blanket loves them. And really, ask yourself this, if MJ was standing right in front of you and he told you he left the wreaths up for Blanket, would you call him weird? Doubt it. You'd think it was sweet.
Not everything is part of the hoax.
Not everything is a clue.
Not everything has meaning.
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But why leave the wreaths on the gates? Why would Blanket care if they were still there? The decorations on the outside of the house are more for visitors and others to admire IMO. Fair enough if he wanted to leave the decs up inside the house but outside...weird.
Have you ever seen people who leave their Xmas lights up for months on end after Xmas? I have...MANY times. In my town, there are at least a dozen homes I drive past every year that still have their lights up through Easter, and some even later. Heck, some folks leave them up year round because they're just too darn lazy to take them down!
Inside the house/outside the house, makes no difference to me. The wreaths were not hurting anyone. They aren't insulting or vulgar or anything, so there's no harm in leaving them up. If my 6 year old grandson wanted me to leave my wreath up year round, I WOULD! "Weird" is a very subjective word; what is weird to one person, is not necessarily weird to another. And considering how much MJ loves his kids, I see no reason to think he wouldn't leave his wreaths up for no other reason than because Blanket loves them. And really, ask yourself this, if MJ was standing right in front of you and he told you he left the wreaths up for Blanket, would you call him weird? Doubt it. You'd think it was sweet.
Not everything is part of the hoax.
Not everything is a clue.
Not everything has meaning.
you are missing the point. the reason i put this up is not because i cared if he wanted them up them or not, i wanted to know if the wreaths had anything to do with the call in december, if you read the post it will be clear. if blanket wanted it there great, but i dont believe in coincendences anymore :!: :!: :!: ugh
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But why leave the wreaths on the gates? Why would Blanket care if they were still there? The decorations on the outside of the house are more for visitors and others to admire IMO. Fair enough if he wanted to leave the decs up inside the house but outside...weird.
Have you ever seen people who leave their Xmas lights up for months on end after Xmas? I have...MANY times. In my town, there are at least a dozen homes I drive past every year that still have their lights up through Easter, and some even later. Heck, some folks leave them up year round because they're just too darn lazy to take them down!
Inside the house/outside the house, makes no difference to me. The wreaths were not hurting anyone. They aren't insulting or vulgar or anything, so there's no harm in leaving them up. If my 6 year old grandson wanted me to leave my wreath up year round, I WOULD! "Weird" is a very subjective word; what is weird to one person, is not necessarily weird to another. And considering how much MJ loves his kids, I see no reason to think he wouldn't leave his wreaths up for no other reason than because Blanket loves them. And really, ask yourself this, if MJ was standing right in front of you and he told you he left the wreaths up for Blanket, would you call him weird? Doubt it. You'd think it was sweet.
Not everything is part of the hoax.
Not everything is a clue.
Not everything has meaning.
you are missing the point. the reason i put this up is not because i cared if he wanted them up them or not, i wanted to know if the wreaths had anything to do with the call in december, if you read the post it will be clear. if blanket wanted it there great, but i dont believe in coincendences anymore :!: :!: :!: ugh
My last post was a response to someone else's post, not to yours. !!! ugh
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Christina wrote:
Have you ever seen people who leave their Xmas lights up for months on end after Xmas? I have...MANY times. In my town, there are at least a dozen homes I drive past every year that still have their lights up through Easter, and some even later. Heck, some folks leave them up year round because they're just too darn lazy to take them down!
Inside the house/outside the house, makes no difference to me. The wreaths were not hurting anyone. They aren't insulting or vulgar or anything, so there's no harm in leaving them up. If my 6 year old grandson wanted me to leave my wreath up year round, I WOULD! "Weird" is a very subjective word; what is weird to one person, is not necessarily weird to another. And considering how much MJ loves his kids, I see no reason to think he wouldn't leave his wreaths up for no other reason than because Blanket loves them. And really, ask yourself this, if MJ was standing right in front of you and he told you he left the wreaths up for Blanket, would you call him weird? Doubt it. You'd think it was sweet.
LMAO! How does giving into your kids demands show that you love them? If Michael was to ask my honest opinion (i doubt that he would care!) on whether I thought leaving the decorations up was "weird" or out of the ordinary then yeah, I would stick to that opinion. Granted, the decorations make the house look nice but, Christmas comes once a year and that’s the beauty of it. Again, why would Blanket care if the wreaths were on the gates? How often will Blanket be staring at the gates? Michael and the kids spent the majority of the time in the house! If you read my post again, I clearly state that I can kind of understand why he would leave the decorations up in the house, whether it’s for his own personal reasons or to "please" Blanket or whatever... Maybe the decorations were left up because Michael knew it was going be his last Christmas - who knows? Seen as neither you nor I know Michael personally, we are not in a position to give a concrete reason as to why the decorations were left up - all we can do is speculate.
Christina wrote:
Not everything is part of the hoax.
Not everything is a clue.
Not everything has meaning
I don't want to insult your intelligence by assuming that you didn’t bother to read my post properly but, I’m assuming the above comment was not directed at me because I make absolutely no reference to the hoax in post!
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Seen as neither you nor I know Michael personally, we are not in a position to give a concrete reason as to why the decorations were left up - all we can do is speculate.
That was also MY point. Glad we're agreed on that. Thanks! :D
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Guys seriously I'm talking to someone on MSN who was also helping michael a lot before his death..with tv cameras etc, he says he talked to michael february 2008? on NEVERLAND RANCHE :shock: He also says: Michael really loved Neverland, he came there even 4 days before his death" ...omg? :shock:
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My last post was a response to someone else's post, not to yours. !!! ugh[/quote]
oh sorry for that. im so tired. when im tired im cranky. i get more cranky cuz i have to go to school tommorow. sorry
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My last post was a response to someone else's post, not to yours. !!! ugh
oh sorry for that. im so tired. when im tired im cranky. i get more cranky cuz i have to go to school tommorow. sorry[/quote]
I was cranky too. :( Sometimes I get a bit frazzled. And I am also sorry! :D
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I wonder if the decoration is still there...what's going on in the carolwood drive house ? I have no information....
I am sure that the decoration has a spezial meaning and the 3 video's are specialiy made to show this ( look, this is a clue !) the lady from the bus is the same at the videos and at the 25.06......they all are actors in a great thing thats going on.
Has anyone pictures from Michael and the children driving in or out the house ? They rented it in January ?
Christmas is over....in January noone starts with decorations for christmas....when you let then be after christmas it is a diferent think.
The " neighbor" said that there are people sleeping in there cars waiting week fpr week to see Michael, but nobody saw him or his children !
Have they ever lived there ?????????????????????? I don't know.
Sone posts before i saw someone write from Neverland. I remember there was a little video with Katherine Jackson...e few day's before the Tribute concert in Vienna, that never bee...but on the homepage from the tribute for only 2 days ( after then the concert was cancelt). Katherine sit on a chair and say that she will come to vienna and it's all wonderfull...Michael would loved it....she looked scared in this video and say the wrong date for the tribute...she say 29.09. it was the 26.09.
My fieling say's me that this video is made in Neverland...the same wood at the wall the same spirit,
It's just a feeling...i thing Michael could be there. The kids and Grace and Omer...all at Katherin's house ?
I can't beleave it.
Jermaine and Tohme Tohme are at neverland and gave interviews few day's after 25.06.....why ? It's a bit outside and takes time...don't they have to do after that shock ?
All was so pretty there, the flowers, the garden....you don't take it in 2-3 days...it was prepaired !
Sorry my english....i hope you can understand wath i was saying....
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I wonder if the decoration is still there...what's going on in the carolwood drive house ? I have no information....
I am sure that the decoration has a spezial meaning and the 3 video's are specialiy made to show this ( look, this is a clue !) the lady from the bus is the same at the videos and at the 25.06......they all are actors in a great thing thats going on.
Has anyone pictures from Michael and the children driving in or out the house ? They rented it in January ?
Christmas is over....in January noone starts with decorations for christmas....when you let then be after christmas it is a diferent think.
The " neighbor" said that there are people sleeping in there cars waiting week fpr week to see Michael, but nobody saw him or his children !
Have they ever lived there ?????????????????????? I don't know.
MJ only rented that house and it was sold. News reports stated that Christian Audigier would be moving into it.
http://x17online.com/celebrities/christ ... 052009.php (http://x17online.com/celebrities/christian_audigier/christian_audigier_moving_into_mjs_holmby_hills_home-09052009.php)
I doubt MJ or the kids would visit that house...it wasn't special to them, just a place they rented for 6 months or so. But since CA knows MJ, who knows.
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yeah I thought Christian bought it. I think (just thinking :D ) That he is in the hoax. Don't know why. The kids and Michael himself are wearing SO many ED hardy clothes! (LOVE IT!) so, just a thought ;)
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It began, actually, everything in December, 08 / January, 09
The radio Hoax...
To live Ian Halperin MJ 6 months...
MJs Krankheits rumors....
The relocation in the house ... only leaseholdly (very expensive) :? :roll:
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/4fd234575c/tom-gregory-at-michael-jackson-s-home-part-3?rel=player
Did you guys see part 3 of Tom's series? It's pretty strange that Michael would be sooo adamant about keeping the wreaths up despite the neighbors' disapproval.
Wow, this guy is ANNOYING!!! I thought the security guy was kinda rude, but I can imagine how many times a day he gets harassed by all kinds of people, so I can kinda understand his frustration.
Anyway, I do think it's strange, that they didn't put down the wreaths - if Blanket loves Christmas so much, why not just leave the decoration INSIDE the house, and get rid of the rest? Although I must admit, they are SUPER pretty!
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I wonder if the decoration is still there...what's going on in the carolwood drive house ? I have no information....
I am sure that the decoration has a spezial meaning and the 3 video's are specialiy made to show this ( look, this is a clue !) the lady from the bus is the same at the videos and at the 25.06......they all are actors in a great thing thats going on.
Has anyone pictures from Michael and the children driving in or out the house ? They rented it in January ?
Christmas is over....in January noone starts with decorations for christmas....when you let then be after christmas it is a diferent think.
The " neighbor" said that there are people sleeping in there cars waiting week fpr week to see Michael, but nobody saw him or his children !
Have they ever lived there ?????????????????????? I don't know.
MJ only rented that house and it was sold. News reports stated that Christian Audigier would be moving into it.
http://x17online.com/celebrities/christ ... 052009.php (http://x17online.com/celebrities/christian_audigier/christian_audigier_moving_into_mjs_holmby_hills_home-09052009.php)
I doubt MJ or the kids would visit that house...it wasn't special to them, just a place they rented for 6 months or so. But since CA knows MJ, who knows.
I read that Christian Audigier changed his mind.
http://x17online.com/celebrities/michae ... 302009.php (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/christian_audigier_not_moving_into_mjs_house_doesnt_want_to_live_with_a_ghost-10302009.php)
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I did not read this article at all, Audinger thought this house would already have...
If it found very peculiarly he this house wanted to have, nevertheless, this is unusual :?
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
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Hi Mo,
do you discuss this theory anywhere? This is the first time I've heard that.
Thanks.
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Hi Mo,
do you discuss this theory anywhere? This is the first time I've heard that.
Thanks.
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
i kinda get what you are saying, but can you explain it more
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It's quite simple. We went through all the photos and videos supposedly taken in 2009, and have serious doubts about seeing the real Mike. The few photos on which we do think the real Mike is, could have been taken much earlier.
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Hm, interesting Mo... And they can indeed claim that the video's/pictures are from this year, but we can never find out if that's the truth...
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This would explain it, MJ has carried out the relocation in January... Christmas decoration....
I was surprised daser this house rented ... and in December, 08 everything started anyhow
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
Sorry, but that does not explain why his staff keeps up the Christmas decorations. I think I'll have to disagree with this theory.
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
Sorry, but that does not explain why his staff keeps up the Christmas decorations. I think I'll have to disagree with this theory.
Who's directing this..?
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
Sorry, but that does not explain why his staff keeps up the Christmas decorations. I think I'll have to disagree with this theory.
i have to agree with mo it makes complete sense if you put all the facts together,like we are not even really sure when we last saw the real mj, :)
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Yes could be . hmmm does sense, also because of the children, it also gave contradictions with regard to when the children in the hospital goods came and, above all, with whom where they?
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I also noticed that the lamps on the gate..one is lite the other is not.
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
Sorry, but that does not explain why his staff keeps up the Christmas decorations. I think I'll have to disagree with this theory.
i have to agree with mo it makes complete sense if you put all the facts together,like we are not even really sure when we last saw the real mj, :)
but why not go through with it in december?
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Guys I want to remind you something. In the video the doorman says that the wrenths have been there since last X-Mas (December 2008) BUT Michael bought that house in January 2009. So they should have added the wrenths then ;) :D
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@ Liberian girl and Mo great finds!
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Guys I want to remind you something. In the video the doorman says that the wrenths have been there since last X-Mas (December 2008) BUT Michael bought that house in January 2009. So they should have added the wrenths then ;) :D
Michale rented that house, but we don't have definitive proof of when he moved in.
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I think the wreaths in front of that house indicate the time of Mikes "departure". Souza and I have discussed this over and over again, but we don't think we saw the real Mike, without disguise, in 2009 at all. We think he left around christmas last year.
Absolutely agreed !!! I've already posted somewhere my thoughts about this theory, I mean Michael left before we started to see 'him' again,after a long period of time, but masked and only masked. That could explain most of the unanswered questions.
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Guys I want to remind you something. In the video the doorman says that the wrenths have been there since last X-Mas (December 2008) BUT Michael bought that house in January 2009. So they should have added the wrenths then ;) :D
Michale rented that house, but we don't have definitive proof of when he moved in.
According to the MJJ Timeline he was renting the house before Christmas... http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html (http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html)
December 22 :
It is revealed that Michael is renting the $38 million Holmby Hils estate for $100,000 a month in Bel Air, California.. The pad has seven bedrooms, 13 baths, 12 fireplaces, a screening room, a guest house, a swimming pool and garden.
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Guys I want to remind you something. In the video the doorman says that the wrenths have been there since last X-Mas (December 2008) BUT Michael bought that house in January 2009. So they should have added the wrenths then ;) :D
Michale rented that house, but we don't have definitive proof of when he moved in.
According to the MJJ Timeline he was renting the house before Christmas... http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html (http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html)
December 22 :
It is revealed that Michael is renting the $38 million Holmby Hils estate for $100,000 a month in Bel Air, California.. The pad has seven bedrooms, 13 baths, 12 fireplaces, a screening room, a guest house, a swimming pool and garden.
so again with conflicting stories? hmmm
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Michale rented that house, but we don't have definitive proof of when he moved in.[/quote]
According to the MJJ Timeline he was renting the house before Christmas... http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html (http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html)
December 22 :
It is revealed that Michael is renting the $38 million Holmby Hils estate for $100,000 a month in Bel Air, California.. The pad has seven bedrooms, 13 baths, 12 fireplaces, a screening room, a guest house, a swimming pool and garden.[/quote]
so again with conflicting stories? hmmm[/quote]
yep that's when he rented the house but when did he move to the house? :?
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It says he spent Christmas there.
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It says he spent Christmas there.
* December 24 :
Michael celebrates Christmas eve with Prince, Paris & Blanket and their guests Dr Arnold Klein and Carrie Fisher in their new Bel Air home.
The golden gates of Neverland are removed and put into storage in an nondescript warehouse on the outskirts of Los Angeles as part of a public auction next April 2009. More than 2,000 items, ranging from personal effects and costumes to pieces from Michael's private art collection as well as fittings and furnishings from his Neverland ranch, will be up for sale at a four-day public auction at the Beverly Hilton hotel in Los Angeles.
Yep so the wrenths are out of the clue bag :)
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There was a show coming on for weeks after MJ's death entitled "Michael Jackson in his Final Days" on the TV guide channel on comcast cable I am not sure which channel it would be as I know all of us are in different countries and cities ... but in this show, there is one lady from the tour bus talking about that day. Maybe someone can find it and upload but that is definitley the title of it. :?
Thats repeated on channel 5 tonight at 9:00pm.
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Guys I want to remind you something. In the video the doorman says that the wrenths have been there since last X-Mas (December 2008) BUT Michael bought that house in January 2009. So they should have added the wrenths then ;) :D
Michale rented that house, but we don't have definitive proof of when he moved in.
According to the MJJ Timeline he was renting the house before Christmas... http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html (http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2008.html)
December 22 :
It is revealed that Michael is renting the $38 million Holmby Hils estate for $100,000 a month in Bel Air, California.. The pad has seven bedrooms, 13 baths, 12 fireplaces, a screening room, a guest house, a swimming pool and garden.
According to this article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/0 ... 56117.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/07/michael-jackson-moves-to_n_156117.html)) dated January 8, Tohme Tohme said MJ was in the house for about a month at that time. He said that the Wednesday before the 8th, according to the article. So that would put MJ in the house in early December.
Michael Jackson has signed a yearlong lease on a mansion in the swanky Bel Air area of the city, a spokesman for the singer said Wednesday.
Jackson has been staying in the estate for about a month, said spokesman Tohme Tohme, who called the property "a little bit more than an average home."
This year-long lease would jive with reports of Christian Audigier moving into the estate at the end of MJ's lease this December.
(http://www.nbclosangeles.com/entertainm ... 63597.html (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/entertainment/celebrity/NATL-Designer-to-Move-Into-Jackson-Estate-57563597.html))
Audigier won't turn the rental property into a public space but will keep it as a residence, where he'll live, eat and sleep where the late Jackson did before his June 25 death.
The estate is owned by Ed Hardy CEO Hubert Guez. Jackson rented the massive Holmby Hills, Calif., mansion from Guez and had a lease that was due to end Dec. 15.
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There was a show coming on for weeks after MJ's death entitled "Michael Jackson in his Final Days" on the TV guide channel on comcast cable I am not sure which channel it would be as I know all of us are in different countries and cities ... but in this show, there is one lady from the tour bus talking about that day. Maybe someone can find it and upload but that is definitley the title of it. :?
Thats repeated on channel 5 tonight at 9:00pm.
Here's a clip on YouTube of the TV Guide channel show, The Final Days. It has the Star Line Tours lady on it, the one driving the tour van that day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT0I1YcOQk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT0I1YcOQk)
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this would be a good idea....
who could do this, however? :?:
Maybe even ask for an itinerary for the last 12 months of tours? I forget what the bus company was called.....I'll call if someone can find the name of the tour.
StarLine tours