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Title: The Security Tapes
Post by: QuirkyDiana on March 24, 2010, 10:03:38 AM
There has been a lot of debate about the tapes being missing. Brian Oxman said on 23/03 that he is not suprised there are no tapes. He said MJ did not want tapes of inside the house because of the fear of someone stealing them and selling them. He said MJ did not want to be taped from the inside. He did however have tapes of the outside of the house and we know they exist.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: tabloidburn on March 24, 2010, 11:11:33 AM
then why did someone say there was footage of all other days from security cameras but only that one day was missing? or did they talk about footage from outside the house?
boy, this is beyond weird...every story has at least 3 versions. now, which one do we believe, or is it all BS?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: techdiva on March 24, 2010, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
then why did someone say there was footage of all other days from security cameras but only that one day was missing? or did they talk about footage from outside the house?
boy, this is beyond weird...every story has at least 3 versions. now, which one do we believe, or is it all BS?  :mrgreen:
Yeah I heard that too and I wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: QuirkyDiana on March 24, 2010, 11:22:59 AM
I searched for sources for these stories and found very few. There were hardly any news articles stating that the tapes were missing. You would expect that info to be everywhere if there was any substance to it. I think those handful of reports were unsubstantiated reports. Google it. You find hardly anything on it.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Jacksonology on March 24, 2010, 05:48:33 PM
I honestly starting to think june 25th was filmed in the DOME project. The Ambulance ride, Arrival at UCLA, then Helicopter ride, Arrival at Coroner. it seemed so STAGE and happened so Quick and it was so Organized !!
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Kirsche on March 24, 2010, 05:52:37 PM
Hm.... But then who told the story that MJ had Cams inside the house?

And even there are only cams outside the house then why are especially these tapes from June 25th went missing??   BECAUSE IT SHOW'S THE BEGINNING OF THE HOAX!
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Jacksonology on March 24, 2010, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Hm.... But then who told the story that MJ had Cams inside the house?

And even there are only cams outside the house then why are especially these tapes from June 25th went missing??   BECAUSE IT SHOW'S THE BEGINNING OF THE HOAX!
maybe Michael did? He released the tabloid of the ''Hyperbolic Chamber'' and even took the Picture himself!!
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Kirsche on March 24, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Hm.... But then who told the story that MJ had Cams inside the house?

And even there are only cams outside the house then why are especially these tapes from June 25th went missing??   BECAUSE IT SHOW'S THE BEGINNING OF THE HOAX!
maybe Michael did? He released the tabloid of the ''Hyperbolic Chamber'' and even took the Picture himself!!


Yes I remember...And wasn't it Michael who started the story of the "Elephant-Man-Bones" ? :D

Anyway I'd really like to know who took the tapes...Maybe Latoya and Janet who were at the house before the police came?
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: somekindofsign on March 24, 2010, 06:01:02 PM
Sorry QuirkyDiana, but Oxman says he doesn´t know and gives his opinion, which is that MJ´s usual behaviour is not recording inside. MJ never records inside, but Oxman doesn´t know what he did in this house.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/5672410
Around min 27.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 25, 2010, 04:48:54 PM
Very good points. I always wondered about this as well. There just doesnt seem to be much talk of it. Never was. Just swept under the rug!
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: tabloidburn on March 25, 2010, 05:18:47 PM
wherever these 'tapes' are. they should be evidence in the case. guess we will just have to wait and see until the trial starts and what will be pulled up then...is it just me or is it  gettin' hot in the kitchen???  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on March 25, 2010, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
then why did someone say there was footage of all other days from security cameras but only that one day was missing? or did they talk about footage from outside the house?
boy, this is beyond weird...every story has at least 3 versions. now, which one do we believe, or is it all BS?  :mrgreen:Also the owner of the house is suing Michaels estate for the damages done to the camera system , inside and outside the house, so someone damaged them that day .
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: badkolo on March 25, 2010, 07:06:38 PM
the excuse that michael doesnt want cameras on the inside is bogus, besides others stating there where cameras inside the house I am 100% years ago and i think on batshit tapes, Michael specifically says hes not worried because he video records his house and bedrooms.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: paula-c on March 25, 2010, 07:14:42 PM
Also the owner of the house is suing Michaels estate for the damages done to the camera system , inside and outside the house, so someone damaged them that day .



Is this true ... :?:  8-)  :lol:
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: somekindofsign on March 25, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
paula-c where have you seen it?
I know we have the list of creditor´s claims, here, somewhere,
do we know the name of the owner? or is there a source of him saying the installation was damaged?
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: paula-c on March 25, 2010, 08:25:41 PM
somekindofsign, I really do not know, I was wondering, looking at the post  LOVEYOUMORE 8-)
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: darkchild on March 25, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: "badkolo"
the excuse that michael doesnt want cameras on the inside is bogus, besides others stating there where cameras inside the house I am 100% years ago and i think on batshit tapes, Michael specifically says hes not worried because he video records his house and bedrooms.

I agree with you 100%.  I do believe that MJ is smart enough to back himself up with security cameras inside and outside of the house. I do believe also that there were security cameras on the Hombly Hills property.  I found this article saying that insiders believe that security camera footage was removed from the property. The negative comments about MJ in this article are very upsetting to me. I dont want to offend anyone or upset on the forum.  I dont believe that MJ is dead for one minute, or that he is a drug addict at all. God bless you all. :)

http://www.metrolyrics.com/2009-michael ... -news.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/2009-michael-jacksons-death-caught-on-camera-claims-us-magazine-news.html)

Michael Jacksons death caught on camera claims US magazine

 July 15, 2009
 Michael Jackson's death caught on camera claims US magazine

Michael Jackson's death was caught on video - but the tape mysteriously went missing before investigators could see it, according to sensational US reports.

Jackson's shocking collapse and death was caught on an elaborate security system that the King of Pop had installed in his home, the National Enquirer magazine claims.

According to the US celebrity mag, critical video evidence was removed before investigators obtained their first search warrant.

"As some of the Jackson family charge foul play in his untimely death, an Enquirer investigation has uncovered startling details of a massive cover-up by insiders who hid drugs and 'sanitised' the death scene," the magazine claims.

“Insiders close to the investigation say Michael's death - possibly his murder - was captured on camera, but the video has not been recovered.

"Police think there were massive efforts to 'sanitise' the death scene before 911 was called. More than one individual may have been involved...” the magazine says.

The Enquirer also spoke to former bodyguards of the King of Pop, who insist they witnessed him regularly hunting down drugs.

"It's not surprising Michael died the way he did - many of us knew he would end up this way," one unnamed bodyguard told the Enquirer.

"Michael travelled the world in search of drugs - and he always found them.

"There were times when I saw him change clothes for shows and there were needle marks all over his body.

He added, "His family tried to help, but Michael ordered us to keep them out of his business."
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: tabloidburn on March 26, 2010, 10:08:08 AM
i'm starting to think that all those gruesome tabloid horror stories have to be interpreted in a different way, more like the opposite of what you're actually reading.
it reminds me of 'men in black' (note: remember, mj had a cameo in mib!!!), where tommy lee jones shows will smith the tabloid papers (a national enquirer look-alike!) and tells him to read the story another way, cuz only the mib know that there are really aliens and the public isn't supposed to. like the hoaxers, who have a different knowledge from the general public, who still thinks mj is dead. cuz these papers are the ones telling the 'insiders', what they need to know or how they should read it, given the already existent clues. just a thought... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: paula-c on March 26, 2010, 10:21:23 AM
"Michael travelled the world in search of drugs - and he always found them.

"There were times when I saw him change clothes for shows and there were needle marks all over his body.

He added, "His family tried to help, but Michael ordered us to keep them out of his business."

Garbage, garbage spewing these tabloids continue,... :evil:


tabloidburn, according to what he says ;)
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: somekindofsign on March 26, 2010, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
somekindofsign, I really do not know, I was wondering, looking at the post  LOVEYOUMORE 8-)

Oh, Ok thank you paula-c.
What a pitty.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Game Player on March 27, 2010, 07:18:05 AM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
then why did someone say there was footage of all other days from security cameras but only that one day was missing? or did they talk about footage from outside the house?
boy, this is beyond weird...every story has at least 3 versions. now, which one do we believe, or is it all BS?  :mrgreen:

It sure adds some extra mystery.  Also puts the impression of guilt and a cover up in the minds of the public. Some would immediately jump to the conclusion that it was some sort of inside job. A murder.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Believe 777 on March 27, 2010, 08:35:28 AM
This is just a thought but it has been brought up recently that Murray returned to the house for the 'special cream' because Michael would not want anyone to know about it. Well this seems a bit lame, everyone knows he had vitiligo, so I doubt this would be a big deal. Therefore, maybe he really returned to get these security tapes. especially as it has just been brought up when the trial is next week.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: paula-c on March 27, 2010, 09:25:37 AM
If Believe 777, can be ..... :geek:
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: Jacksonology on March 27, 2010, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: "Believe 777"
This is just a thought but it has been brought up recently that Murray returned to the house for the 'special cream' because Michael would not want anyone to know about it. Well this seems a bit lame, everyone knows he had vitiligo, so I doubt this would be a big deal. Therefore, maybe he really returned to get these security tapes. especially as it has just been brought up when the trial is next week.
good theory...
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: trisha on March 27, 2010, 12:28:04 PM
EVERY ONE KNOWS THAT M.J HAS BEEN USING HYDROQUINONE N Benoquin CREAMS SINCE YEARS ,n there is nothing new about it.....all they r trying to do is side track the case n cause confusion.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: tabloidburn on March 30, 2010, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Believe 777"
This is just a thought but it has been brought up recently that Murray returned to the house for the 'special cream' because Michael would not want anyone to know about it. Well this seems a bit lame, everyone knows he had vitiligo, so I doubt this would be a big deal. Therefore, maybe he really returned to get these security tapes. especially as it has just been brought up when the trial is next week.
good theory...

so there we have it: 'the cream' is the tapes that the 'world shouldn't find out about'. we have the news, that murray went back for something, which is the true part. but it wasn't for cream, that's for sure. in every newsbit, there is thus a true and a false information. and 'the lie becomes the truth'... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 30, 2010, 05:18:40 PM
I am of the opinion that Brian Oxman knows next to nothing..  :?
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: mjboogie on March 31, 2010, 08:04:27 PM
Why would MJ want to have his bedroom taped I mean of all places! That is why I don't believe he wanted to be taped inside only surveillance outside. :? I mean u know privacy of all places would be his own bedroom, what if he wanted female company or something. :?
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 01, 2010, 08:43:20 AM
?
And what if he wanted to do it in the living room?  :lol:
Come on, it doesn´t have to be cameras everywhere and everymoment.
If he wanted to have cameras inside he would decide where and when.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: QuirkyDiana on July 17, 2010, 05:10:24 PM
OK, there were cameras....but no tapes. This was on tmz some time ago. Presumably they are referring to cameras on the inside here, because we already know that Murray was seen entering the house on the outside camera - they have that tape. Also, a very good while back some guys from the security firm that fitted the cameras into the home apparently gave an interview on tmz. That video on tmz is currently missing according to those who have looked and had seen the interview previously and knew it was there.

The answers are all out there, you just have to ask the right people.....and i'm now of the opinion that whatever Brian Oxman says, you need to double check it.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: QuirkyDiana on July 17, 2010, 05:15:26 PM
Murray wanted to return to the house using his own car......he made various excuses as to why he needed to go. The bodyguards were having none of it and they said they locked the house down. Murray got a cab. There's been no word on whether he tried to access the house. He wanted to retrieve the bag in the closet.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: mjsgirl89 on July 17, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
imo, Michael has the tapes...the tapes have at lwast the beginning of the hoax and proof that MJ never died that day...and if there's a BAM (which I believe there will be) he would use these tapes as proof that he is Michael and not a double...which is what imo many will think...but really who knows? :?
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: QuirkyDiana on July 18, 2010, 07:50:53 AM
Quote from: "mjsgirl89"
imo, Michael has the tapes...the tapes have at lwast the beginning of the hoax and proof that MJ never died that day...and if there's a BAM (which I believe there will be) he would use these tapes as proof that he is Michael and not a double...which is what imo many will think...but really who knows? :?

Well Michael Bush did say that he put MJ in his coffin with his own hands. That broadcast went everywhere. Did you see it? It's proof imo......and look what they said about AEG. Wow. It takes guts to say that on tv.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: mjsgirl89 on July 20, 2010, 03:32:33 AM
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Quote from: "mjsgirl89"
imo, Michael has the tapes...the tapes have at lwast the beginning of the hoax and proof that MJ never died that day...and if there's a BAM (which I believe there will be) he would use these tapes as proof that he is Michael and not a double...which is what imo many will think...but really who knows? :?

Well Michael Bush did say that he put MJ in his coffin with his own hands. That broadcast went everywhere. Did you see it? It's proof imo......and look what they said about AEG. Wow. It takes guts to say that on tv.

actually, I didn't see it (lol...im slow) could U please post a link or something? and what did they say about AEG? ik...I'm soooo behind on everythink lately :lol:  THX
Much L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: The Security Tapes
Post by: rasyte on July 20, 2010, 03:46:03 AM
Quote from: "mjsgirl89"
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Quote from: "mjsgirl89"
imo, Michael has the tapes...the tapes have at lwast the beginning of the hoax and proof that MJ never died that day...and if there's a BAM (which I believe there will be) he would use these tapes as proof that he is Michael and not a double...which is what imo many will think...but really who knows? :?

Well Michael Bush did say that he put MJ in his coffin with his own hands. That broadcast went everywhere. Did you see it? It's proof imo......and look what they said about AEG. Wow. It takes guts to say that on tv.

actually, I didn't see it (lol...im slow) could U please post a link or something? and what did they say about AEG? ik...I'm soooo behind on everythink lately :lol:  THX
Much L.O.V.E.

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