Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: imissMJ147 on March 12, 2010, 03:21:21 PM
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Ok so James Brown, one of MJ's influences, died in 2006 from a drug overdose. He died on the 25th of December. And his physician is rumored to be Dr. Conrad Murray! I just think it's really weird that they both "died" on the 25th and both had dr Conrad Murray.? I'm not saying James brown faked his death I am saying very coincedental. Don't you think MJ never would have hired Murray if he found out the one of his favorite
performers died while Murray was his doctor.!? Seems strange to me what do yuu think? http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/a ... &num=27244 (http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=40&num=27244)
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i think this is all too scary........and i am, as we speak, strapping up my straightjacket and going into my padded cell.......because this is getting kinda freaky........xxxxx
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i dont believe in co-incidences. This is way too bizarre
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i think this is all too scary........and i am, as we speak, strapping up my straightjacket and going into my padded cell.......because this is getting kinda freaky........xxxxx
:lol: I know I know things are getting really bizarre. We will see what will happen
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
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i think this is all too scary........and i am, as we speak, strapping up my straightjacket and going into my padded cell.......because this is getting kinda freaky........xxxxx
:lol: :lol:
I know how you feel...
I don't think it's a coincidence...but my head hurts trying to figure out what's going on :shock:
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
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Just wanted to wave to you from my padded cell!
Do you think this news could be absolutely false and fabricated from A to Z? (for the purpose of the hoax to prepare us... well not "us" because we are totally prepared, lol - but the rest of the world and non-believer-fans for the resurrection? Michael's fans know James Brown's influence on Michael so any "news" about Brown catches their eye. Could this be a good way to make them question the possibility of "bodies-missing-from-graves" in general?
Hmmmm... :?
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My head hurts this is too much.
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This is all very scary and weird. :shock: I don't know what to think anymore. Just when I think nothing can surprise me, something new comes up that does LMAO! :lol:
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OMG whatever next! is there any room in your padded cell for one more... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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OMG whatever next! is there any room in your padded cell for one more... :lol: :lol: :lol:
make that room for 2! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I did not see a picture of michael laughing at the funeral but I have to admit I have laughed at funerals it is the stress of the situation but the doc being involved with both of them is so odd. I did not know that
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
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That's very odd well here's a list of those famous singers who died on the 25th it's a chain reaction :?
Michael "dies" on - June 25th (2009)
Aaliyah died - Aug.25th (2001)
Left Eye (TLC) died - Apr.25th (2002)
James Brown December 25th 2006
Rather shocking isn't it :shock: ???
Sorry i just had to put this in there :oops:
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U saw the article on James Brown in Tmz today?
http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-bro ... pt-corpse/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-brown-body-not-stolon-missing-grave-crypt-corpse/)
James Brown Did Not Continue His World Tour
Posted Mar 12th 2010 1:10PM by TMZ Staff
There are reports that James Brown's body is missing from his crypt -- as in, stolen -- but TMZ has learned the Godfather of Soul never left the building.
James Brown
The morbid dispute arose when one of Brown's illegitimate daughters, LaRhonda Pettit, told a UK newspaper that the singer's body was mysteriously moved from the temporary crypt in South Carolina in an attempt to keep her from having another autopsy performed on the body.
Brown died in 2006 -- and Pettit had suggested foul play.
But a lawyer who represents 5 of Brown's children tells TMZ James is right where he should be -- in his crypt -- still dressed to the nines in one of his famously awesome "farewell" outfits.
More James Brown
* Still the Hardest Working Man in Showbiz
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0i0o39hFN (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0i0o39hFN)
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Just wanted to wave to you from my padded cell!
Hey! Could you keep it down? I can hear you from my cell! Sheesh. :roll: :lol:
I don't know what the heck is going on, but it's really creepy.
Why would they want James' body?
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Just wanted to wave to you from my padded cell!
Hey! Could you keep it down? I can hear you from my cell! Sheesh. :roll: :lol:
I don't know what the heck is going on, but it's really creepy.
Why would they want James' body?
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They are claiming the body has been moved so it cant be re-examined. The daughter is claiming foul play and wants an autopsy done... although not sure if you could do an autopsy on a body thats been buried for years. Eeew!!
Basically daughter is saying there is foul play in James Browns death and the body has been moved to prevent the truth coming out.
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
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This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.
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Why is there 2 different pics of JB in his coffin????? What's that about. And is there any more room in your padded cell????????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:
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From Wikipedia guys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown#Death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown#Death)
Death and aftermath
[edit] Death
James Brown memorial in Augusta, Georgia
On December 23, 2006, James Brown, in ill health, showed up at his dentist's office in Atlanta, Georgia several hours later than his appointment for dental implant work. During that visit, Brown's dentist observed that Brown looked "very bad ... weak and dazed." Instead of performing the dental work, the dentist advised Brown to see a doctor right away about his medical condition.[11]
Brown checked in at the Emory Crawford Long Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia on December 24, 2006 for a medical evaluation of his condition, and he was admitted to the hospital for observation and treatment.[70] According to Charles Bobbit, Brown's longtime personal manager and friend, Brown had been sick and suffering with a noisy cough since he returned from a November trip to Europe.[11] Bobbit also added that it was characteristic of Brown to never tell or complain to anyone that he was sick, and that Brown frequently performed during illness.[11] Although Brown had to cancel upcoming shows in Waterbury, Connecticut and Englewood, New Jersey, Brown was confident that the doctor would discharge him from the hospital in time to perform the New Year's Eve shows.
For the New Year's celebrations, Brown was scheduled to perform at the Count Basie Theatre in New Jersey and at the B. B. King Blues Club in New York, in addition to performing a song live on CNN for the Anderson Cooper New Year's Eve special.[70] However, Brown remained hospitalized, and his medical condition worsened throughout that day.
On December 25, 2006, Brown died at approximately 1:45 AM EST (06:45 UTC) from congestive heart failure resulting from complications of pneumonia, with his agent Frank Copsidas and his friend Paul Sargent at his bedside.[71] According to Sargent, Brown uttered "I'm going away tonight", and then Brown took three long, quiet breaths before passing away.
And for the 2 different pics of JB i think there was a public and a private viewing ....
Don't need to go in your padd cell hahahahaha
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A lot of "pneumonia" going around, killing celebrities..... hhhmmmm
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Yes but is'nt it the perfect doctor to use for someone who has a bad record ? Perfect person don't cha think ?
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Death and aftermath
[edit] Death
James Brown memorial in Augusta, Georgia
On December 23, 2006, James Brown, in ill health, showed up at his dentist's office in Atlanta, Georgia several hours later than his appointment for dental implant work. During that visit, Brown's dentist observed that Brown looked "very bad ... weak and dazed." Instead of performing the dental work, the dentist advised Brown to see a doctor right away about his medical condition.[11]
Brown checked in at the Emory Crawford Long Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia on December 24, 2006 for a medical evaluation of his condition, and he was admitted to the hospital for observation and treatment.[70] According to Charles Bobbit, Brown's longtime personal manager and friend, Brown had been sick and suffering with a noisy cough since he returned from a November trip to Europe.[11] Bobbit also added that it was characteristic of Brown to never tell or complain to anyone that he was sick, and that Brown frequently performed during illness.[11] Although Brown had to cancel upcoming shows in Waterbury, Connecticut and Englewood, New Jersey, Brown was confident that the doctor would discharge him from the hospital in time to perform the New Year's Eve shows.
For the New Year's celebrations, Brown was scheduled to perform at the Count Basie Theatre in New Jersey and at the B. B. King Blues Club in New York, in addition to performing a song live on CNN for the Anderson Cooper New Year's Eve special.[70] However, Brown remained hospitalized, and his medical condition worsened throughout that day.
On December 25, 2006, Brown died at approximately 1:45 AM EST (06:45 UTC) from congestive heart failure resulting from complications of pneumonia, with his agent Frank Copsidas and his friend Paul Sargent at his bedside.[71] According to Sargent, Brown uttered "I'm going away tonight", and then Brown took three long, quiet breaths before passing away.
that is the official story yes but James brown's daughter claimsshe is suspicious about the death and says that she thinks that maybe drugs were involved
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I think MJ might have, if he really hoaxed his death, took notes from JB's death. I think this because it's really strange that he was being seen by the same doctor that 'mistreated' his friend & favorite artist before his death. It's been said over & over again how MJ went to the funeral home or whatever it was & took a huge interest in how they prepared the body, how long things take, how they choose the coffin, etc. The guy told him big stars usually always want the gold coffin - Michael's coffin was gold. I think he imitated JB's death with his own twists here & there. He hires the same guy to act as his doctor, chooses the gold coffin like JB, same death date (25th)...If this is truly a hoax, I think JB's death played a huge part in how MJ went about doing things. & if they both really are gone (I believe in the hoax but not 100% sure, so there's always still the possibility he's gone for me), anyways if they are both gone maybe MJ was looking for a doctor who could see him for what he wanted & give him what he wanted & JB told him about CM but I don't want to believe that. :roll:
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imo j b is a junkie, who got his fame with m jagger, and all. Conrad must have been 10 when they were hot. maybe its a name, like dr death, ali chemicali, a escape. This man is not real, mobody knows him, xcept the victims. ?????? Con rat moon ray, aka the celdeadrity doc. Hahaha..... I feeeeeel gooooooood. Btw check op youtube ff james brown high. Wat een freakshow!!!!!!
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
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This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.
He seems upset. This isn't a smile.
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There is one thing I càn`t get out of my head.....I remember in 2007 Mike had an interview and he said that he do not want to end up like James Brown..performing all of his life and basically die on stage ....He was talking about retirement and some other projects...
Hmmm I am trying to find that interview `cause it may be important....
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HERE IT IS.... ;) He had an interview with Ebony magazine ....
Q: So, you’re almost 50 now. Do you think you’ll be doing this at 80?
A: The truth is, umm, no. Not the way James Brown did, or Jackie Wilson did, where they just ran it out, they killed themselves. In my opinion, I wish [Brown] could have slowed down and been more relaxed and enjoyed his hard work.
Q: Will you tour again?
A: I don’t care about long tours. But what I love about touring is that it sharpens ones craft beautifully. That’s what I love about Broadway, that’s why actors turn to Broadway, to sharpen their skills. It does do that. ‘Cause it takes years to become a great entertainer. Years. You can’t just grab some guy out of obscurity and throw ‘em out there and expect for this person to compete with that person. It’ll never work. And the audience knows it; they can see it. The way they gesture their hand, move their body, the way they do anything with the microphone, or the way they bow. They can see it right away.
Q: Do you work with these young artists?
A: Sure. I’ve always been the type where, I don’t care if it’s the mailman or the guy sweeping the floor. If it’s a great song, it’s a great song. Some of the most ingenious ideas come from everyday people, who just go, ‘Why don’t you try this, or do this.’ It’ll be a wonderful idea, so you should just try it. Chris Brown is wonderful. Akon, he’s a wonderful artist.
I always want to do music that inspires or influences another generation. You want what you create to live, be it sculpture or painting or music. Like Michelangelo, he said, “I know the creator will go, but his work survives. That is why to escape death, I attempt to bind my soul to my work.’ And that’s how I feel. I give my all to my work. I want it to just live.
These are his very words....He said it :D ... ...He couldn`t be that stupid to actually end up like him...It sure is a hoax :D
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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray. Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
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Is there any information about Murray being James Brown's doctor before Michael 'died'. The only articles I can find seem to be since June 2009. This might not mean anything, but it does seem odd that there doesn't seem to be any earlier news on this to confirm it. I feel there is something very connected here, maybe MJ is trying to get justice for JB as well or there is always the possibility that JB hoaxed his death too. I'm not saying I believe he did but there is a small chance... Something is going on here, I'm sure.
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
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This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.
Well at least we see James Brown in the coffin. We know he is dead, more that we can say about MJ.. We have seen just a closed casket..
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
michael was laughing :!: why :?: :o
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
Yes, I want to know when MJ laughed and in what context it was in. Is there footage??? Really, MJ spent 5 hours with the body of James Brown????? Hum?!?!?!? That is a long time.....was he studying the body-----amazed how a decoy could look so authentic, so life-like????? :shock:
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
When did he laugh? I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset. He kissed James Browns head in the coffin. Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.
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This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.
he was probably smiling at someone :|
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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray. Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
The question is....was this propofol attached to a pump or was it to gravity or was good ol' Dr. Murray pushing it every so often through a syringe. It is all so bleak, the details. It is always possible that MJ gave himself an extra bolus (I guess in any regard) but I still cannot see him exiting from this life intentionally when his children have always been his focus and mainstay. In my opinion, he would have had to have been rather depressed to have detached from the "reality" of such things to do himself in. I don't want to believe it. I feel that Michael has been to hell and back so many times that he wouldn't allow himself to cave this time. God, I pray I am right! However, you are right.....we must consider the unthinkable.....as much as I don't like it or want to agree with it. My heart tells me it just isn't so.
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I CANT SEE HIM GIVING HIMSELF THE MED, WHEN IT STATES IT WAS COMING IN THROUGH HIS ANKLE OR BOTTOM LEG.
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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray. Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
I am not mad I completely get what your saying. You have to look at both sides of the story. There are some days where I really think he is dead but then come to this forum and remember the strange things.! Thanks anyways.!
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MJ’s doc also catered to drug-addled James Brown’s needs
August 3rd, 2009 - 2:41 pm ICT by ANI Tell a Friend -
Michael Jackson New York, Aug 3 (ANI): If reports are to be believed, late King of Pop Michael Jackson’s doctor was part of a group of “feel good” physicians who catered to the needs of celebrities in the 1990s.
According to a former law-enforcement source, Dr. Conrad Murray, who is under investigation for Jackson’s death, had also catered to the needs of drug-addled Godfather of Soul James Brown.
“James Brown and Michael Jackson were inseparable and they used the same ’safe doctors’ — doctors who would get them anything they wanted,” the New York Post quoted Brown’s long-time producer and assistant, Jacque Hollander, as saying.
“If James Brown wanted drugs, he knew he could get them from these safe doctors in Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles,” Hollander said.
Brown died of congestive heart failure in 2006, and it was reported at the time that he was battling an addiction to painkillers and PCP.
His wife, Adrienne, had also been one of Murray’s patients when she died 10 years earlier in LA under mysterious circumstances, and the immediate cause of her death was given as being due to PCP intake coupled with heart disease.
Charles Bobbit, Brown’s personal assistant and business manager in the last four years of his life, said that he knew who Murray was before Jackson’s death.
“Mr. Brown may have been sneaking around behind my back with this doctor,” Bobbit said, but he added that he never saw Brown use drugs.
Murray has been under intense scrutiny since Jackson died June 25 of cardiac arrest and investigators removed drugs from the singer’s Bel Air estate. (ANI)
More at : MJ’s doc also catered to drug-addled James Brown’s needs http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/ent ... z0i53XGMMF (http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/mjs-doc-also-catered-to-drug-addled-james-browns-needs_100226809.html#ixzz0i53XGMMF)
Here is what i found about Brown's doctor and the drugs he used
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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray. Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
There was no way Michael could have done it himself: this is what the coroner stated, and therefore it was ruled a homocide. There was no dosage pump found.
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Thank you guys for this thread. I think we should pay attention to this MJ's interview for Ebony. That explains a lot more than all the IV pumps... LOL
(There's plenty of room in my padded cell for everyone, so you may feel invited. LOL)
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VeryLittleSusie you can count me in :lol: :lol: :lol:
I`ll take my bottle of Budweiser `cause I think I need to stay there a little longer :lol:
(http://www.harlingen-skutsje.nl/bieren/budweiser.jpg)
Anyone else to join :mrgreen:
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This is very strange, indeed. :shock: