Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Multimedia => General Hoax Investigation => Twitter ~ Not verified but (probably) real => Topic started by: rowdyangel on February 05, 2010, 04:02:41 PM
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Latest Tweets from Karen to Kenny:
@KennyOrtegaBlog how about sharing a word about JUSTICE for Michael instead of always just taking his applause and profits for him....
3 minutes ago from web in reply to KennyOrtegaBlog
and then:
@KennyOrtegaBlog L.O.V.E.
2 minutes ago from web in reply to KennyOrtegaBlog
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i saw that...boy she's piss*d :evil:
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Do you think he will reply? lol
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This lady is a professional make-up deliverer.
She makes up as if. I think not only on face tissue.
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She is going mad on Facebook too... urging all her followers to bombard the LAPD and the DA with calls and emails... i dont think that is very useful to be honest! :roll: :roll:
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Karen Faye also has said on her FB that she is BFF with Lisa Marie & they went to a medium together & Michael said he should have listened to Karen more........!!!!
She is no friend of Michaels...... :cry:
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Karen Faye also has said on her FB that she is BFF with Lisa Marie & they went to a medium together & Michael said he should have listened to Karen more........!!!!
She is no friend of Michaels...... :cry:
There's another post about this. Someone has correctly brought up the fact that LMP now lives in London so I doubt this. LMP hates KF anyway. She talks rubbish!
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Karen Faye also has said on her FB that she is BFF with Lisa Marie & they went to a medium together & Michael said he should have listened to Karen more........!!!!
She is no friend of Michaels...... :cry:
There's another post about this. Someone has correctly brought up the fact that LMP now lives in London so I doubt this. LMP hates KF anyway. She talks rubbish!
Thats for sure! She has been talking rubbish for months!
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Karen Faye also has said on her FB that she is BFF with Lisa Marie & they went to a medium together & Michael said he should have listened to Karen more........!!!!
She is no friend of Michaels...... :cry:
MJ should have listened KF regarding what matters???? :?: :?:
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She is going mad on Facebook too... urging all her followers to bombard the LAPD and the DA with calls and emails... i dont think that is very useful to be honest! :roll: :roll:
Would she go that far if this was a hoax? :( Making many fans call LAPD and DA? :|
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^^ Yes this is a good question and that confuses me even more? Why would they do all of this? Maybe it´s a part of the plan. I dunno.
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Do you think he will reply? lol
He can`t read her tweets to him, because her account is protected....lol... somebody should tell her.. :lol:
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If this is a hoax, I'm sure she's not in on it and that might explain her behaviour... That, and perhaps also for attention. I believe that it's murder too if it turns out that Michael is indeed gone (oh horrible horrible thought :cry: ) and I'd want justice too.
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Karen Faye also has said on her FB that she is BFF with Lisa Marie & they went to a medium together & Michael said he should have listened to Karen more........!!!!
She is no friend of Michaels...... :cry:
MJ should have listened KF regarding what matters???? :?: :?:
When she told him who he could trust - blah-blah-blah.......... 8-)
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SHE JUST TWEETED THIS:
Dr. Murray has not been arrested yet because AEG has not finished decorating his prison cell
WHAT THE HECK THAT MEAN??
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strange twitter
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sorry did that in a rush saw this strange twitter from karen she must be so angry upset or what i dont know
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I know i just saw that and put it up on forum she must be at breaking point I just dont know with her anymore that is a strange thing to put isnt it any ideas ?
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strange twitter
Can you post it?
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I am sorry i dont know how to do that can you tell me and i will soz thick
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I know i just saw that and put it up on forum she must be at breaking point I just dont know with her anymore that is a strange thing to put isnt it any ideas ?
I dont think she is the most intelligent of women.
You know what gets me?
Dr Murray has NOT been convicted yet. Hell, he hasnt even been arrested!!
Yet when MJ was arrested and charged, the media slammed him as guilty and were not fair in their treatment and reporting of him.
Isnt Dr Murray now being treated EXACTLY THE SAME by MJ fans??
They are acting the same as what we condemmed the media for doing in 2005!!!!!
It bugs me... it cant be both ways... Murray has to be presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.
We demanded MJ have that respect in 2005... now we must treat Dr Murray with the same fairness that we wanted MJ to have.
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Dr. Murray has not been arrested yet because AEG has not finished decorating his prison cell.
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well, she probably means that AEG, by putting too much pressure on Michael , killed him. Seems like reasonable theory as well too me... :( You know the discussions about Michael not being healthy and AEG keep insisting he was, TINI, etc. She probably blaims them which a lot of other people do too. Idk...
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managed to it it is the above
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It is a comment just out of the blue it is like she wants revenge big time
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I don't get her. Isn't she just as much to blame if she saw so many signs leading up to this. Wasn't she considered some of Michael's "people". Then why wasn't she tweeting all of this before June 25th if she cared so much then. That's what makes me angry with her. She says she was with him everyday and saw him going down hill but only decided to speak out after June 25th. Don't tell me her excuse for not tweeting and facebooking this stuff before was because she didn't want to lose her job...what was more important to her, her check or her friend. Screw a check if I get to save the life of my friend.
Karen gets all up under my skin.
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Maybe we should start asking her questions like why it took post-June 25th for her to open her mouth. As you can see she really really gets under my skin. I'm starting to think her antics are more for attention than they are about Michael.
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I don't get her. Isn't she just as much to blame if she saw so many signs leading up to this. Wasn't she considered some of Michael's "people". Then why wasn't she tweeting all of this before June 25th if she cared so much then. That's what makes me angry with her. She says she was with him everyday and saw him going down hill but only decided to speak out after June 25th. Don't tell me her excuse for not tweeting and facebooking this stuff before was because she didn't want to lose her job...what was more important to her, her check or her friend. Screw a check if I get to save the life of my friend.
Karen gets all up under my skin.
i agree
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She acts like she doesn't even knows that he is alive.. 0.0
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I like that eva i so hope you are right
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@eva
Maybe she doesn't know that he is alive or maybe she is just ticked off that he didn't include her in the planning. Anyone who runs off at the mouth like her wouldn't have been included in my plans either.
Good thing we know that he is alive!
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I would say that means she thinks AEG paid or is funding Murray { I refuse to call him DR } He can't pay his child support but he can afford a lawyer ? That AEG is in on it . Are you surprised ? Follow the money trail .
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@eva
Maybe she doesn't know that he is alive or maybe she is just ticked off that he didn't include her in the planning. Anyone who runs off at the mouth like her wouldn't have been included in my plans either.
Good thing we know that he is alive!
hehe very true...Michael knew better
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I think we should put all of this Karen Faye stuff to rest once and for all. I feel that we should or one of us members should send her a highly highly detailed letter regarding MJ from June 25th until this point . I feel we should ask her detailed explanations for her tweets, and facebook comments, what was the real significance of her relationship with MJ? I know she knew him for a long time. Is there something she knows that we don't ? This is someone that was a part of MJ's inner circle , instead of us dismissing her (as I am sure some of us already have) she may hold the key to a bit of information, you know? Just a thought. A strong member here to help compose a letter to Karen. It does not have to be a rude letter. There is a reason for Karen doing all of this, and sometimes I feel she wants attention and sometimes I feel it is deeper? I think Mo or Souza would be good for this! :)
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@eva
Maybe she doesn't know that he is alive or maybe she is just ticked off that he didn't include her in the planning. Anyone who runs off at the mouth like her wouldn't have been included in my plans either.
Good thing we know that he is alive!
hehe very true...Michael knew better
yeah exactly :P
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I think we should put all of this Karen Faye stuff to rest once and for all. I feel that we should or one of us members should send her a highly highly detailed letter regarding MJ from June 25th until this point . I feel we should ask her detailed explanations for her tweets, and facebook comments, what was the real significance of her relationship with MJ? I know she knew him for a long time. Is there something she knows that we don't ? This is someone that was a part of MJ's inner circle , instead of us dismissing her (as I am sure some of us already have) she may hold the key to a bit of information, you know? Just a thought. A strong member here to help compose a letter to Karen. It does not have to be a rude letter. There is a reason for Karen doing all of this, and sometimes I feel she wants attention and sometimes I feel it is deeper? I think Mo or Souza would be good for this! :)
She's another one in on it and playing her part. I follow her on Twitter and saw her recent Tweet. I responded
Be patient. Can't you see it's all unfolding and the clues are everywhere?? Have faith.
;)
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Wow... I don't know what to say about that. :?
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Please could you tell me her twitter account? i cant find it. Thanks 8-)
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Please could you tell me her twitter account? i cant find it. Thanks 8-)
wingheart
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Thank you :)
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Thank you :)
Welcome! I had to check her profile to see if it was really here. Looks like it is.
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I am doing it now, and it seems to be her, there are messages before his "death".
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But Karen wrote on her FB that she made Michael's last make-up and she prepared him for the funeral ! If she's NOT in on the hoax, how could she say something like this and why would she lie? Once she wrote about Michael "He left his kids fatherless". Ohh God I don't know really what to make of her. I don't think that she is not in on the hoax. I do believe that she knows everything. Remember her FB picture! Michael's disguise picture from the Ghosts. I think she knows everything but she insists too much that Michael is "dead" which brings my mind that Michael is not coming back. :|
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Karen Faye also has said on her FB that she is BFF with Lisa Marie & they went to a medium together & Michael said he should have listened to Karen more........!!!!
She is no friend of Michaels...... :cry:
MJ should have listened KF regarding what matters???? :?: :?:
When she told him who he could trust - blah-blah-blah.......... 8-)
Thank you very much, Disco, for answering my question. Wow, that is interesting that a man like MJ with his intellectual calibre would have to be told what to think and whom he could trust. Wow, that is quite a statement from KF on FB. Very interesting!
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SHE JUST TWEETED THIS:
Dr. Murray has not been arrested yet because AEG has not finished decorating his prison cell
WHAT THE HECK THAT MEAN??
IMO that refers to the murder theory and she's accusing AEG of being responsible and deliberate on their part. :evil:
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Some people believe that KF is in on the hoax and some believe that she is just a squeaky wheel in search of attention. If she is in on the hoax then why is she targeting Kenny Ortega? SONY, AEG, Murray etc I get but why Kenny? What would she have to gain by bashing Kenny who most people believe is a close friend of Michael's? Plus I think that I read somewhere that she has also taken shots at the guys who are in charge of the Jackson Estate.
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But Karen wrote on her FB that she made Michael's last make-up and she prepared him for the funeral !
Did you ever consider her doing the make-up for LIVING Michael for the funeral?
Try reading what is said OUT of your individual context and mind-set.
We tend to interpret the second we start processing information.
We put it into our network of "already known".
Thus, when the sentence reads "funeral for a dead" and "making last make-up" and we know that he's not dead - still we would think that the last make-up was done on a dead body, right?
We produce pictures on our own of what may have happened - our own phantasies to calm us down.
This is not necessarily the truth.
Maybe K.F. was fired after the funeral (so that could be the reason for HER "last" make-up she did on MJ). Maybe she is so outraged about being fired that she now wants to interfere with MJ's plans? Maybe she is in and plays her role? But that would indicate that Michael wants to pull his fans ON PURPOSE into the trap of "Murray is to blame and evil" and this I am not assuming. Michael had nothing against his fans IMO, not even against those who turned away from him. So I am not considering K.F. as bein in the plot. I just see her as someone spitting shame into the web. There are many more like that.
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But Karen wrote on her FB that she made Michael's last make-up and she prepared him for the funeral ! If she's NOT in on the hoax, how could she say something like this and why would she lie? Once she wrote about Michael "He left his kids fatherless". Ohh God I don't know really what to make of her. I don't think that she is not in on the hoax. I do believe that she knows everything. Remember her FB picture! Michael's disguise picture from the Ghosts. I think she knows everything but she insists too much that Michael is "dead" which brings my mind that Michael is not coming back. :|
Well, then she is the only one that acts GOOD about him being dead.
Make-up for Michael at the funeral? 'Michael' was dead for 2 months.. gross :lol:
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Some people believe that KF is in on the hoax and some believe that she is just a squeaky wheel in search of attention. If she is in on the hoax then why is she targeting Kenny Ortega? SONY, AEG, Murray etc I get but why Kenny? What would she have to gain by bashing Kenny who most people believe is a close friend of Michael's? Plus I think that I read somewhere that she has also taken shots at the guys who are in charge of the Jackson Estate.
Hmmmmm, I wonder why KF is bashing on KO on FB. I thought KO was MJ's friend. This is really confusing to me! :?: :?:
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She has to be in the hoax if she says she did the make up.
But if she is turning the fire to Ortega, maybe she is trying to take of the focus from Murray.
In my opinion she will turn the focus to a lot o people to desguise facts.
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KF has had a lot of bashing on twitter as well there is so much anger people have said kf has made money on michael and other horrible things
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@ Eva, she doesn't only act like she doesn't know anything at all, but also like she didn't even meet MJ. I don't think MJ is aprecciating the way she's spreading hate and almost making people to go to the court house and stone CM to death. And I really don't believe any s**t she has to say, she's a big time LIAR saying that she had to give food to MJ because he couldn't even hold a spoon, she had to read his emails because he didn't know how to operate a computer :roll: and answer his phone calls because he didn't know how to even turn on a cell phone. That's just stupidity, she's angry that MJ didn't let her in anything lately and of course she telling everybody that she did his make up just to make believe that she kept being close to the guy.
And of course she criticize everyone that is "profiting" of MJ's "death" and she doesn't remember how she sold the pictures of his grave, keep selling stories about his private life and even sells bracelets on internet saying that MJ is wearing the same one in his ankle, inside de casket obviously.
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too bad Prince's father isn't here to see his 13th birthday
wowza this woman :shock:
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too bad Prince's father isn't here to see his 13th birthday
wowza this woman :shock:
i think karen is going a little overboard now, too bad she only thinks she was as important to him as she thinks, lol shes crazy
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She is trying really hard to make us believe he's dead. Sorry love, it ain't workin.
She just wants attention IMO :roll:
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@randyjackson8 Follow the money...RJ.....follow the money.
5 minutes ago from web in reply to randyjackson8
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@randyjackson8some people who were around your brother before he died...find it more profitable to spin a few lies, than to tell the truth.
6 minutes ago from web
@randyjackson8not many want to rock the boat..your brother is out of the way, and too much money is being made and passed around apparently.
7 minutes ago from web
@randyjackson8I guess the term "personal interest" comes into play RJ. Your brother was involved with some BIG money and power players.
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How the hell would she know if he was involved with "big money"?
She was his MAKE UP ARTIST.
I don't think Michael would share those kind of things with her.
She's really starting to get on my nerves now.
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KAREN MIKE IS SMOOTH,SO YOU BEAT IT!!
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too bad Prince's father isn't here to see his 13th birthday
wowza this woman :shock:
Umm.. if MJ has died and Karen believes MJ has been murdered.... how exactly does she think this is going to help?
I cannot fathom out what she thinks she is achieving doing this!!!!
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How the hell would she know if he was involved with "big money"?
She was his MAKE UP ARTIST.
I don't think Michael would share those kind of things with her.
She's really starting to get on my nerves now.
I don't think we should discredit what she is saying. She obviously cares very much for Michael. Besides, you would be surprised at what hairdressers and makeup artist hear when they are working on someone. My hairdresser is one of my best friends.
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The thing that gets me about the Karen Faye rants is if she is that close to the family, why doesn't she just Direct Message these kinds of tweets? She seems to be show boating to me. I'm just saying... :roll:
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Too much information for a real friend to be publicizing.
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I don't understand why most people on here are so hard on Karen Faye ,I mean after all she does know him ,there are loads of pictures of her and Mj ,outside of work .All of you saying that she was just his make up artist are wrong ! They are clearly friends, and if she was going along with the hoax theory then you all would not be bad mouthing her SHE WOULD BE THE MOST WONDERFUL FRIEND EVER IF SHE AGREED WITH THE hoax THEORY ...... RIGHT ! .How do you know that maybe she is doing what MJ told her to do ,maybe she thinks he is dead ,maybe he is dead .But a lot of folks on here pretend as tho' you know MJ and what MJ would or would not do better than, not only his friends, but his family. She has been very LOYAL to Michael and she had close relation with him ,she probably applied make up to his body .I am positive that she know all kind of stuff about MJ and she has remained steadfastly silent .She could probably be a millionare if she talked to the press !!!! but she dosen't .I don't think MJ would like you picking on his friend / makeup artist . LEAVE HER ALONE ! :evil:
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:shock: Wow, I am speechless on this one. <shakes head>
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I don't understand why most people on here are so hard on Karen Faye ,I mean after all she does know him ,there are loads of pictures of her and Mj ,outside of work .All of you saying that she was just his make up artist are wrong ! They are clearly friends, and if she was going along with the hoax theory then you all would not be bad mouthing her SHE WOULD BE THE MOST WONDERFUL FRIEND EVER IF SHE AGREED WITH THE hoax THEORY ...... RIGHT ! .How do you know that maybe she is doing what MJ told her to do ,maybe she thinks he is dead ,maybe he is dead .But a lot of folks on here pretend as tho' you know MJ and what MJ would or would not do better than, not only his friends, but his family. She has been very LOYAL to Michael and she had close relation with him ,she probably applied make up to his body .I am positive that she know all kind of stuff about MJ and she has remained steadfastly silent .She could probably be a millionare if she talked to the press !!!! but she dosen't .I don't think MJ would like you picking on his friend / makeup artist . LEAVE HER ALONE ! :evil:
Wasnt Kenny Ortega a friend of MJs too? He worked on TWO world tours with him, after all.
Would Michael approve of Karen and her friends harassing and threatening Kenny like this??
I cannot answer or predict what Michael would "want" or "think".. and neither can you.
All i know is that i love and care for Michael, i have his back and i will work for the truth. If that means certain "friends" of MJ get outed for who and what they are, then so be it.
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I don't understand why most people on here are so hard on Karen Faye ,I mean after all she does know him ,there are loads of pictures of her and Mj ,outside of work .All of you saying that she was just his make up artist are wrong ! They are clearly friends, and if she was going along with the hoax theory then you all would not be bad mouthing her SHE WOULD BE THE MOST WONDERFUL FRIEND EVER IF SHE AGREED WITH THE hoax THEORY ...... RIGHT ! .How do you know that maybe she is doing what MJ told her to do ,maybe she thinks he is dead ,maybe he is dead .But a lot of folks on here pretend as tho' you know MJ and what MJ would or would not do better than, not only his friends, but his family. She has been very LOYAL to Michael and she had close relation with him ,she probably applied make up to his body .I am positive that she know all kind of stuff about MJ and she has remained steadfastly silent .She could probably be a millionare if she talked to the press !!!! but she dosen't .I don't think MJ would like you picking on his friend / makeup artist . LEAVE HER ALONE ! :evil:
there was a topic posted somehwere here about karen faye and there was a link where it takes you to a site talking about how fake she is Michael even fired her before because he found out she was manipulating his fans, buy runnig a site where fans could order things, and then were promised they would be delivered and never were, also she talks about how she used to sit on michaels lap but never kissed him or saw him naked, im sorry you dont talk about your boss like that its called being un professional, also, she talked very badly about his family, and she despised every woman that was somehow linked to mj, she was a very jealous woman, and she also pretended to be someone else on some forums and was discussing personal information about Michael, and his relationships, and she even discussed joana's sex life to all these strangers, im sorry but karen faye is nothing but FAKE!
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One simple question i have....... "what is wrong with her?"
idk, she's acting weird. she's going crazy! If there's a hoax, it's hard to believe she's in on it! :roll:
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One simple question i have....... "what is wrong with her?"
idk, she's acting weird. she's going crazy! If there's a hoax, it's hard to believe she's in on it! :roll:
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Someone on twitter posted this about Karen. They obviously have done their research! The link is in this thread!
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=5906 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=5906)
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Gosh, Michael, now I know why you just had to get away! These antics from your supposed friends are enough to make anyone crazy!!!!!!
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Karen Faye comes across as extremely obssessive over all things related to Michael Jackson.
She reminds me of Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction.
Remember the infamous bunny boiler who declared... "I will not be ignored". :lol:
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Karen Faye comes across as extremely obssessive over all things related to Michael Jackson.
She reminds me of Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction.
Remember the infamous bunny boiler who declared... "I will not be ignored". :lol:
:o great minds think alike. Yesterday I was reading a little more about KF and for some reason all the time I couldn't get Glenn Close's character out of my head. Let's keep our pets out of KF's hands ;)
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I don't know how you all think you know Karen Faye ,Most of the info came from Bloggers or media ,how do you even know it is true ,you all are doing the same thing to Karen that was done to MJ ! SPECULATION .You don't know anything for sure .And as far as her being jealous of other women ,how the heck would you know that ? Are you a mind reader ? I would seem that other women would be jealous of her ,after all she has a very close relationship with him ,it makes more sense for people to be jealous of her . I certainly am !
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Jealousy will almost always reep one the opposite of what they desire, therefore no one needs to feel down about the relationship they shared.
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She just tweeted this:
What steps can I take to stop all this anger? I am open to anyone who genuinely wants to communicate and move in a positive direction.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
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And here was my reply to her:
@wingheart Here's a suggestion - stop sending nasty Tweets to Kenny and others who were close to Michael. Makes you look bitter!
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@wingheart That's not the sort of thing that Michael promoted. If you were as close to Michael as you claim, you would already know that.
Seems other people are Tweeting her with the same sort of thing. What is with this woman???
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@rowdyangel.. ive asked her to address the idea that MJ faked his death.. and not to be judgemental on those that believe he may have.
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On twitter there is so much hatred at the moment KO is getting such a blasting it is horrible somebody called ingridpant1 is sending horrible messages to KO if they all love Michael why the Hell are they behaving like this
@RealKennyOrtega CONTINUE TO DANCE, SING AND CELEBRATE YOURSELVES, WHEN A MAN IS IN A GRAVE!
3:33 AM Jan 27th from web in reply to RealKennyOrtega
Is this the way to carry on Michael must be mad at this I have twitted the hate has to stop but I wont hold my breath.
I am feeling very sorry for Kenny getting all this backlash
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@RealKennyOrtega is NOT KO's real Twitter account. His real one is @KennyOrtegaBlog.
Still, I agree. It's nasty and not what Michael would like to see happen.
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she sent them to both twitters I folow the real one I did not notice the fake one but when I looked again she sent to both
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Now she has tweeted this:
The hateful posts create "evidence" for me
What is she trying to do? I really feel uncomfortable with her now. Why cant she carry on with LOVE for MJs legacy? What is she trying for now.. revenge?
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On twitter there is so much hatred at the moment KO is getting such a blasting it is horrible somebody called ingridpant1 is sending horrible messages to KO if they all love Michael why the Hell are they behaving like this
@RealKennyOrtega CONTINUE TO DANCE, SING AND CELEBRATE YOURSELVES, WHEN A MAN IS IN A GRAVE!
3:33 AM Jan 27th from web in reply to RealKennyOrtega
Is this the way to carry on Michael must be mad at this I have twitted the hate has to stop but I wont hold my breath.
I am feeling very sorry for Kenny getting all this backlash
its a little understandable dont you think - just a little
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Now she has tweeted this:
The hateful posts create "evidence" for me
What is she trying to do? I really feel uncomfortable with her now. Why cant she carry on with LOVE for MJs legacy? What is she trying for now.. revenge?
what is she saying - there is a motive , she has a real motive and another view that she wants to project but she does not seem to be able to be consistent.
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This woman is really crazy and she lost it completely. If she was as close to MJ as she claims, I'd expect that she learn a lot more of that gentle soul he is. And not start spreading the s**t and encouraging other crazy people like her to send death threats to KO and other people closer to MJ than she was.
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This woman is really crazy and she lost it completely. If she was as close to MJ as she claims, I'd expect that she learn a lot more of that gentle soul he is. And not start spreading the s**t and encouraging other crazy people like her to send death threats to KO and other people closer to MJ than she was.
She seriously needs to go and get some medication! IMHO the way she is acting, she seems to have some sort of 'problem'. I don't want to offend people so I won't say what I think it is she is suffering from ;)
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And here was my reply to her:
@wingheart Here's a suggestion - stop sending nasty Tweets to Kenny and others who were close to Michael. Makes you look bitter!
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@wingheart That's not the sort of thing that Michael promoted. If you were as close to Michael as you claim, you would already know that.
Seems other people are Tweeting her with the same sort of thing. What is with this woman???
great reply shes the one starting the hatred!! :evil:
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It is called GRIEF folks ,If you had been just a fan for 42yrs {like myself } the pain of losing MJ {dead or alive ,things will never be the same again } was intense and still is ,magnify that pain 10 times over for anyone that personally knew him . And I am positive she knew him better than K.O. I think some of you folks on here are extremely insensitive to her pain .And I think you need to back off of her .And after all AEG was paying K.O. so in my mind that makes him suspect .If he knew Mj for 20 yrs. then he obviously knew that MJ could not pull off 50 shows ,yet he proceeded . How many of you have lost someone this close to you ,in such a tragic way .Talk about being judgemental . Look at how you are behaving towards K.F. :cry:
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I also hate to see so many bad things mentioned to Kenny O he's such a great person :( I say this because I have been a fan of him since High School Musical :lol: :lol: But it doesn't matter if it's K.F or anyone else on twitter noone deserves to be treated so harsh :cry: IF Michael is dead I could care less how many years she has known him I know the pains gonna be there but some stuff u just have to keep to yourself and I have learned that the hard way :cry: IF Michael is alive she must be doing her part but her part is almost more worse than Jermaine's!!! I just wish some people would just spread the L.O.V.E no reason or time for hatred towards one another in this situation right now :cry: *sigh* I gotta finish getting ready for class :( .
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I going to wait before I judge them because if what they said is true then everyone who was involved is to blame KO, Randy P, Travis P they all work with him and saw his condition and they did nothing to stop it and if MJ did try to pull out they who have sue him so they put him in a bad situation.
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I going to wait before I judge them because if what they said is true then everyone who was involved is to blame KO, Randy P, Travis P they all work with him and saw his condition and they did nothing to stop it and if MJ did try to pull out they who have sue him so they put him in a bad situation.
You're right. But if MJ was killed KF is also to blame because she never said anything about the situation. At the time she just tweeted about how great everyting was, how genius MJ was and how great the shows were going to be. So she also has to take the blame and not play now like she is an innocent dove when she's worst that everybody else. She should really shut up and stop all the hating.
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She has gone now. She closed down facebook and wrote this:
Due to the petty and vicious battles among the fans, I am closing down my FB pages for now. I refuse to participate in this behavior
I will continue to pursue justice for Michael in a legal forum. I stand as a witness for 27 years, behind the Jackson family.
I hope that for the past 8 months, I created a place to come together, to inspire the questions. and not to blindly believe the media lies.
We shared Michael's triumphs and we shared the pain. Michael loved his fans, and so do I...enough to end the turmoil amongst you.
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She has gone now. She closed down facebook and wrote this:
Due to the petty and vicious battles among the fans, I am closing down my FB pages for now. I refuse to participate in this behavior
I will continue to pursue justice for Michael in a legal forum. I stand as a witness for 27 years, behind the Jackson family.
I hope that for the past 8 months, I created a place to come together, to inspire the questions. and not to blindly believe the media lies.
We shared Michael's triumphs and we shared the pain. Michael loved his fans, and so do I...enough to end the turmoil amongst you.
:P
shame she could not turn things around
she should give it another try
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For the life of me, I do not understand why people are bombarding everyone who had contact with Michael some time in his life, with tweets, emails, etc. Leave them alone! I'm surprised they have put up with this for so long.
And, as I have said before, let them slip up. Don't question their "communications", or the lack of it. Everytime someone questions things like Michael not being mentioned on the R.I.P. list, they go and correct it. Why can't we just follow and watch (AND KEEP TRACK)?
Let the game unfold in its own time, if it needs simmering, it needs simmering. Let's just stick to facts, and everything else will fall into place.
KEEP THE FAITH
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And, as I have said before, let them slip up. Don't question their "communications", or the lack of it. Everytime someone questions things like Michael not being mentioned on the R.I.P. list, they go and correct it. Why can't we just follow and watch (AND KEEP TRACK)?
Let the game unfold in its own time, if it needs simmering, it needs simmering. Let's just stick to facts, and everything else will fall into place.
KEEP THE FAITH
Yes, you said it!.
I think like you. We should stop "pressuring" for things to happen. Don't "touch" everything, let things happen in its own time, in its own way . I go with the "follow and watch".
Let's see what they have for us...
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It is called GRIEF folks ,If you had been just a fan for 42yrs {like myself } the pain of losing MJ {dead or alive ,things will never be the same again } was intense and still is ,magnify that pain 10 times over for anyone that personally knew him . And I am positive she knew him better than K.O. I think some of you folks on here are extremely insensitive to her pain .And I think you need to back off of her .And after all AEG was paying K.O. so in my mind that makes him suspect .If he knew Mj for 20 yrs. then he obviously knew that MJ could not pull off 50 shows ,yet he proceeded . How many of you have lost someone this close to you ,in such a tragic way .Talk about being judgemental . Look at how you are behaving towards K.F. :cry:
I agree. Group hug.
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Glad to see that I'm not alone in this! :D :D :D
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For the life of me, I do not understand why people are bombarding everyone who had contact with Michael some time in his life, with tweets, emails, etc. Leave them alone! I'm surprised they have put up with this for so long.
And, as I have said before, let them slip up. Don't question their "communications", or the lack of it. Everytime someone questions things like Michael not being mentioned on the R.I.P. list, they go and correct it. Why can't we just follow and watch (AND KEEP TRACK)?
Let the game unfold in its own time, if it needs simmering, it needs simmering. Let's just stick to facts, and everything else will fall into place.
KEEP THE FAITH
your right - pp should not harass others
but i think also it is to be expected and KF's replies should be measured
she does not have to reply to certain things and she can delete some things i dont tweet so i am not sure how it is managed.
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even if pp control themselves in their tweets and your never going to achieve that, then we are bound to comment on this site and i think that pp are reading this site - so its very difficult to say and do what you suggest
but i do agree with what you say - its the best way - to listen and let pp talk
i do think things are planted and disclosed to see what effect it has.
what saddens me is again mj's search result for google has gone down - i dont know why i always look at this.
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karen faye scares me :?
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Yes, she's really quite frightening.
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For the life of me, I do not understand why people are bombarding everyone who had contact with Michael some time in his life, with tweets, emails, etc. Leave them alone! I'm surprised they have put up with this for so long.
And, as I have said before, let them slip up. Don't question their "communications", or the lack of it. Everytime someone questions things like Michael not being mentioned on the R.I.P. list, they go and correct it. Why can't we just follow and watch (AND KEEP TRACK)?
Let the game unfold in its own time, if it needs simmering, it needs simmering. Let's just stick to facts, and everything else will fall into place.
KEEP THE FAITH
i agree in part with what you are saying, butr she put herself out there to begin with. No one forced her to open a twitter and facebook and then invite thousands to follow.
Also... dont forget what messages she was sending Kenny!
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i'd like to think that karen, kenny and michael all get around a fire, have a cup of hot coco, go on this website on one laptop...twitter on another...and all laugh over their fake hate tweets for one another. maybe even kenny helps karen with what she should write next. then michael takes his laptop and looks at all these forums and is proud his fans are dedicated to finding out what the hell is really going on behind all the smoke... and then plots his next clue to be released.
sorry, i saw everyone talking about how crazy this woman is and the hate and everything. i needed to get a little joke in there.
anybody else share this idea? come on guys. michael is literally a genius. he's got to be on to us! ;)
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Karen just tweeted this link:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100226/ten ... 4616c.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100226/ten-kenny-ortega-i-had-anxieties-about-m-ea4616c.html)
With the words: A moment of truth and clarity?
Why is she so obsessed with Kenny Ortega????
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what do you think it means...????
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what do you think it means...????
I dont know.. but she is always on Kennys case and accusing him of being to blame for MJs death.
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New Tweet by Karen:
Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do
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Karen and Kenny are friends.You dont have too believe my but that is true and I now for 200%.Its all part of the hoax.
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New Tweet by Karen:
Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do
So why didnt Karen step in and help Michael then? When fans approached Karen she silenced them by writing an email saying "please keep this quiet for MJs sake"
Ive also heard that Karen didnt speak much to MJ.. that she did the makeup and thats it. She didnt socialise or hang out with him.
But i just cant help thinking.. if all this is true, what she is saying.. why didnt she speak up before June 25th? Why after the event? And now she blames Kenny? She was part of TII too... she was only too happy to be on the payroll for that one.
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Now she tweeted this:
Michael was "grabbing hold" of everything he could to survive and fulfill his obligations...but he didn't make it
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WTH does that mean then..????
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She's such a hypocrite. She got paid for her part in TII yet she blarts on and on about KO and AEG. I said before and I will say again - WHY did she not speak out before 25th June if she was so concerned? Karen, your silence prior to 25th June speaks volumes!! :twisted:
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She's such a hypocrite. She got paid for her part in TII yet she blarts on and on about KO and AEG. I said before and I will say again - WHY did she not speak out before 25th June if she was so concerned? Karen, your silence prior to 25th June speaks volumes!! :twisted:
I agree - she is just as guilty if she stood by and did nothing..providing there was something truly wrong. This breaks my heart. I hope it's not true.
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That is strange, maybe we should investigate her too. And maybe do little on Kenny too. Because that man seems to drop clues left in right. Maybe there is connection that we haven't come across yet. It sure wouldn't hurt pooking around little. :P
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Is this account verified???? There's no sense to her tweets and why aren't the family shutting her up!! KO and Randy Philips were invited to MJ's burial by the family. This is all BS at it's highest.
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Is this account verified???? There's no sense to her tweets and why aren't the family shutting her up!! KO and Randy Philips were invited to MJ's burial by the family. This is all BS at it's highest.
It is her.. it used to be linked to her facebook when she had it.
Its been her twitter since before June 25th, so its real.
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New Tweet by Karen:
Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do
Could it be the hoax, that he was forced to do ? By AEG I think....
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can u give me her twitter???
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New Tweet by Karen:
Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do
Could it be the hoax, that he was forced to do ? By AEG I think....
LET´S TAKE HER TWEETS LIKE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOAX, NOT THE DEAD, SO... MAYBE WE HAVE A SURPRISE! MAYBE SHE IS TALKING ABOUT THE HOAX AND SHE IS UNGRY...
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Maybe she is saying that MJ was forced into doing 50 shows instead of 10 and blames Kenny as well as AEG.
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I guess she is pointing to the fact that MJ was forced to cancel the concerts due to a threat we still didn't find out.... Kenny was worried about him - yes he should have been! If there was a danger to Michael's life - of course they were all scared! But Michael was brave enough to do rehearsals, to record a movie and give it as a gift to his fans... :?
Remember? MJ said on the 24th: "I can take it from here..."
"There were days where I had my I anxieties and my insecurities, " said Kenny. - that not necessarily meant "anxiety over Michael's health".... but this mysterious "threat"....
This article could be read out different ways! I'll stick to mine! :D
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I guess she is pointing to the fact that MJ was forced to cancel the concerts due to a threat we still didn't find out.... Kenny was worried about him - yes he should have been! If there was a danger to Michael's life - of course they were all scared! But Michael was brave enough to do rehearsals, to record a movie and give it as a gift to his fans... :?
Remember? MJ said on the 24th: "I can take it from here..."
"There were days where I had my I anxieties and my insecurities, " said Kenny. - that not necessarily meant "anxiety over Michael's health".... but this mysterious "threat"....
This article could be read out different ways! I'll stick to mine! :D
I can also see it this way. good point.
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Karen and Kenny are friends.You dont have too believe my but that is true and I now for 200%.Its all part of the hoax.
Yes, I've always believed that way..
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Karen and Kenny are friends.You dont have too believe my but that is true and I now for 200%.Its all part of the hoax.
How do you know that for sure?
I don't wanna offend you, I'm just curious
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First on FB she shows Michael's resting place and acts like she doesn't know about the hoax and like he really died.
And now she acts like she knows just yet about the hoax.. :S watch her tweets:
Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do. 6:33 PM Mar 1st via web
Michael was "grabbing hold" of everything he could to survive and fulfill his obligations...but he didn't make it.
All I want is for people to be honest. When people lie, I am suspicious of the reasons why. 16 minutes ago via web
It is difficult to keep the lies straight. Is that why all the stories keep changing? 9 minutes ago via web
yeah Karen, its difficult to keep the lies straight cuz everyone that is in the hoax is saying different things!! Thanks Karen! :lol:
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I hate This woman *¬*
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Oh Karen... she shut her Facebook down and said she was going away. But she just cant... she has to keep stirring the pot.
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First on FB she shows Michael's resting place and acts like she doesn't know about the hoax and like he really died.
And now she acts like she knows just yet about the hoax.. :S watch her tweets:
Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do. 6:33 PM Mar 1st via web
Michael was "grabbing hold" of everything he could to survive and fulfill his obligations...but he didn't make it.
All I want is for people to be honest. When people lie, I am suspicious of the reasons why. 16 minutes ago via web
It is difficult to keep the lies straight. Is that why all the stories keep changing? 9 minutes ago via web
yeah Karen, its difficult to keep the lies straight cuz everyone that is in the hoax is saying different things!! Thanks Karen! :lol:
i already posted those tweets on another thread :)
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Oh Karen... she shut her Facebook down and said she was going away. But she just cant... she has to keep stirring the pot.
yeah... she just deleted all the stuff on her wall and and her photos, but she is still there... :roll:
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I hate This woman *¬*
How can you hate someone you have never met? Did it occur to you that she might just be playing a role here?
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I hate This woman *¬*
How can you hate someone you have never met? Did it occur to you that she might just be playing a role here?
I agree. She may be acting this way because she was either asked to or else if there was a murder, she is truly outraged at what is happening. Either way I believe she is truly on Michael's side.
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You mean
Karen Faye acting weired...................AGAIN
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She just can't shut up, can she??? She loves to keep stiring the s**t everywhere she goes. And you know why I don't believe she's on MJ's side? Because MJ would never allow anybody to start attacking non stop other persons that were close to him like KO and supporting people to make death threats to everybody. That's not something MJ would be proud of and that's why I'm sure she's not on the hoax and she's just pretending to be very close to him, when she was just another employee.
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Karen Faye :roll: :roll:
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I hate This woman *¬*
How can you hate someone you have never met? Did it occur to you that she might just be playing a role here?
Thanks Souza, that actually was my only explanation untill now and it seems to be proven by the newer tweets. I do not think that we are dealing with lunatics here. It rather is all in the "game" . That is what my gut tells me. All IMO of course ;)
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Of course Karen is "playing a role!" It is not human nature to put that kind of energy into "defending a dead man".
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She just can't shut up, can she??? She loves to keep stiring the s**t everywhere she goes. And you know why I don't believe she's on MJ's side? Because MJ would never allow anybody to start attacking non stop other persons that were close to him like KO and supporting people to make death threats to everybody. That's not something MJ would be proud of and that's why I'm sure she's not on the hoax and she's just pretending to be very close to him, when she was just another employee.
Everyone around MJ was" Just an employee " I believe they were friends and I agree, how can you hate some one you don't even know ? And Kenny O is on AEG's payrole , not Karen F . What does KF have to gain by speaking ,what she feels to be truth ? At least she has the courage to speak up ,as do Brian Oxman ,Latoya ,Jermaine , Joe J .and now Mr Majestic . You are wrong to keep bashing this women . They were friends ,haven't you seen the Many pic,s of them together ? He asked her to appear for him in his rebuttal docu. She could make a million doing interviews about Mj yet she dosen't .She has been very loyal .So I really do not understand all of the hostility towards this women .I don't think MJ would like it . And if you think MJ is alive & reads this forum ,you should be concious of this .Obviously ,the family knew that she was organizing a protest at the court house the day Murray was arrested and did the family complain about Karen Faye ? No, The only ones that appear to have a problem with Karen K are the ones that insist that the only thing that could have possibly happened beyond a reasonable doubt to Michael was that he faked his death ,those people that will not even entertain the possibility that MJ could have been murdered which incidentally goes along with the way that MJ's Family is proceeding as is Karen F . She seems upset ,confused,angry,bitter ,.There was a conspiracy to murder MJ for his Money ,his catalog and his power . Maybe K O is guilty of not speaking up ,he has to know about the conspiracy to wrestle MJ's catalog .Maybe he is afraid to speak up .Seems as tho alot of MJ 's so called friends are afraid to speak up .The people MJ was fighting with ,LAPD , THe Media ,Sony , T Matolla ,John Branca are very powerful people with political ties . They could destroy Ortega ,the way they tried to destroy MJ .And now ,low and behold Branca has full control of ALL of MJ assets .... mmmm Branca worked for Sony & Matolla ,Mj Fired Branca . He is working with AEG . I don't claim to have all the answers but Karen F has nothing to gain ,no motive to lie .What would Kenny's motive be ?
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The reason why I feel that Kenny is not being threatened is because it is very hard to fake looking that happy. He clearly exudes happiness---almost beyond containment! There is no way that someone could maintain this illusion if they were being threatened.
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I would be very interested to know what has happened with MJ's assets????? What has come of his catalog etc. Has anyone tried to get their measly hands on it???? Perhaps these media moguls should start asking these questions and get to the heart of it once and for all!!!!!
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I would be very interested to know what has happened with MJ's assets????? What has come of his catalog etc. Has anyone tried to get their measly hands on it???? Perhaps these media moguls should start asking these questions and get to the heart of it once and for all!!!!!
John Branca is in full control of Mj's assets and estate and Mj is still under Contract to Sony so they are in control of his music rt now . katherine Jackson may have lost control of everything because of a clause in Mj;s will ,that if she contested it she could lose her share ,And that is why Joe Has to file suit .MJ fired John Branca even Brian Oxman wonders how Branca is getting away with it .Branca also drew up the will ,that some Jackson family members say is fake . Branca & matolla were in cahoots .
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I would be very interested to know what has happened with MJ's assets????? What has come of his catalog etc. Has anyone tried to get their measly hands on it???? Perhaps these media moguls should start asking these questions and get to the heart of it once and for all!!!!!
John Branca is in full control of Mj's assets and estate and Mj is still under Contract to Sony so they are in control of his music rt now . katherine Jackson may have lost control of everything because of a clause in Mj;s will ,that if she contested it she could lose her share ,And that is why Joe Has to file suit .MJ fired John Branca even Brian Oxman wonders how Branca is getting away with it .Branca also drew up the will ,that some Jackson family members say is fake . Branca & matolla were in cahoots .
Didn't MJ just rehire Branca right before TII?
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Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do. 6:33 PM Mar 1st via web
What she says here seems true, but how would she know. She never believed the hoax and why now act like she believes it? That seems strange. :roll:
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I went to other MJ's fans forum (non-believer ones) and she seems to be hate by most of MJ's fans. From what I read from these forum, she has a bad behavior with the fans who don't think like her since a long time ago. She is hypocrital.
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Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do. 6:33 PM Mar 1st via web
What she says here seems true, but how would she know. She never believed the hoax and why now act like she believes it? That seems strange. :roll:
She is referring to the fact MJ was "forced" to do the 50 shows.
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Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do. 6:33 PM Mar 1st via web
What she says here seems true, but how would she know. She never believed the hoax and why now act like she believes it? That seems strange. :roll:
She is referring to the fact MJ was "forced" to do the 50 shows.
Oh okay, I thought she meant something different. Thanks for explaining. :)
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I hate This woman *¬*
How can you hate someone you have never met? Did it occur to you that she might just be playing a role here?
God.. why ppl misunderstand everything i try to say ???
I dont hate her as a person.. I hate the role that she's doin'
I hate everythin that she does or say.. thats all..
But i honestly dont care.. cause im givin up this shit..
im fuckin tired of all this..
U.U
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Michael made it evident to me that is was something he "had no choice" and was being forced to do. 6:33 PM Mar 1st via web
What she says here seems true, but how would she know. She never believed the hoax and why now act like she believes it? That seems strange. :roll:
She is referring to the fact MJ was "forced" to do the 50 shows.
Oh okay, I thought she meant something different. Thanks for explaining. :)
Not offending you, but how do you know that she is referring to the shows?
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She just can't shut up, can she??? She loves to keep stiring the s**t everywhere she goes. And you know why I don't believe she's on MJ's side? Because MJ would never allow anybody to start attacking non stop other persons that were close to him like KO and supporting people to make death threats to everybody. That's not something MJ would be proud of and that's why I'm sure she's not on the hoax and she's just pretending to be very close to him, when she was just another employee.
Everyone around MJ was" Just an employee " I believe they were friends and I agree, how can you hate some one you don't even know ? And Kenny O is on AEG's payrole , not Karen F . What does KF have to gain by speaking ,what she feels to be truth ? At least she has the courage to speak up ,as do Brian Oxman ,Latoya ,Jermaine , Joe J .and now Mr Majestic . You are wrong to keep bashing this women . They were friends ,haven't you seen the Many pic,s of them together ? He asked her to appear for him in his rebuttal docu. She could make a million doing interviews about Mj yet she dosen't .She has been very loyal .So I really do not understand all of the hostility towards this women .I don't think MJ would like it . And if you think MJ is alive & reads this forum ,you should be concious of this .Obviously ,the family knew that she was organizing a protest at the court house the day Murray was arrested and did the family complain about Karen Faye ? No, The only ones that appear to have a problem with Karen K are the ones that insist that the only thing that could have possibly happened beyond a reasonable doubt to Michael was that he faked his death ,those people that will not even entertain the possibility that MJ could have been murdered which incidentally goes along with the way that MJ's Family is proceeding as is Karen F . She seems upset ,confused,angry,bitter ,.There was a conspiracy to murder MJ for his Money ,his catalog and his power . Maybe K O is guilty of not speaking up ,he has to know about the conspiracy to wrestle MJ's catalog .Maybe he is afraid to speak up .Seems as tho alot of MJ 's so called friends are afraid to speak up .The people MJ was fighting with ,LAPD , THe Media ,Sony , T Matolla ,John Branca are very powerful people with political ties . They could destroy Ortega ,the way they tried to destroy MJ .And now ,low and behold Branca has full control of ALL of MJ assets .... mmmm Branca worked for Sony & Matolla ,Mj Fired Branca . He is working with AEG . I don't claim to have all the answers but Karen F has nothing to gain ,no motive to lie .What would Kenny's motive be ?
And if she loved him soooo much and cared about him why didn't she say anything before everything. She was one of the people that supported MJ doing all the 50 shows, she never disagree, she never said ANYTHING. Even her messages were of the type of MJ is great, this will be greatest show ever, and MJ is sooo happy. If she saw that MJ was being exploited why she never said anything, if he died she's just another accomplice of the crime because she kept her stupid mouth shut.
And having pictures with the guy doesn't mean that they were really close and she wasn't even close to him in the last times because she was fired by him, not too much time after the end of the trials. Ohh and now that you talk about things MJ wouldn't like, you think he would like KF laughing and supporting twitter comments that say things of the kind of "I hope Kenny Ortega chokes to death"?? do you think that's the kind of things he would like of the people close to him???
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I think this tweet is also about KF
a certain someone complainin about disharmony. i find it amusing bc she is the sole cause of it. let it go woman, just let it go
These are more tweets from this person she calls herself Heismypeterpan
nah, unfortunately. she'll be back either this week or next but her time with them is limited. the $hit is about 2 hit the fan (don't know who she's talking about maybe Debbie?)
And this one, looks like she also knows something
real. that's how i'm feelin right now. some people need 2 be exposed. i'm gonna keep :-x 4 now but just wait that time is fast approaching
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What does KF stand for - Kentucky Fried?
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KF = Karen Faye
Kentucky Fried :lol: :lol: :lol:
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KF = Karen Faye
Kentucky Fried :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: Everytime I read KF my first association is it means Kentucky Fried...really needs a lot of time to sink in it's Karen Faye...
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Karen Faye has been on twitter defending Debbie Rowe and saying that Debbie still loves Michaels and prayers to her... well,this is the most hypocrital thing Karen has written so far.
I was on Karens Facebook page in the early days and i remember what she wrote about Debbie... bit too late to start simpering to her now.
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Now she is back on twitter going on about the photos TMZ have... who cares, Karen??? Get over it already.
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Now she is back on, banging on about the photos TMZ have.. does she think anyone of us care???
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To be honest I just stand back and watch what is going on on the twitter and face book but it looks to me like she did start all the trouble she should have been a happy link not unless she is playing her role .
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To be honest I just stand back and watch what is going on on the twitter and face book but it looks to me like she did start all the trouble she should have been a happy link not unless she is playing her role .
She has served her purpose and no one takes her seriously now. Silly woman... she had so much info to give out too, but spoilt it all by going too far with it all.
She lost my respect the minute she took photos of the crypt and posted them online. I dont care if she sold them or they were stolen... the very fact she put them up on facebook was very distasteful.
If MJ really is dead and gone... she should have respected his peace and privacy.
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What about leaving her alone ?
I mean, some choose to believe Michael isn't dead, some decided to proove it's a murder, some other think he suicide...why don't you just let people think what they want ?
Is she hurting you in personnal way ? Is she doing anything wrong ? She's just fighting for what she BELIEVES to be true.
You should just focus on your own issues, instead of judging people for what they do.
I don't see anything wrong with her...
We cannot all have only one thought, one oppinion. She's free to think that KO took part in MJ's death...Let her do what she wants, it's none of our business.
Should get your energy to something usefull ;)
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@whatyourheartsays... she posted photos of the crypt on the internet. Thats enough for me.
Michael wanted his privacy when he was alive.. the family chose the crypt to be private... she invaded that.
She chose to be on Facebook and Twitter and she chose to act how she did. No one forced her to do that.
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@whatyourheartsays... she posted photos of the crypt on the internet. Thats enough for me.
Michael wanted his privacy when he was alive.. the family chose the crypt to be private... she invaded that.
She chose to be on Facebook and Twitter and she chose to act how she did. No one forced her to do that.
Last information for me about the crypt photo was that she was in contact with fans asking about MJ, and she put the photo just to show where MJ was resting. i know that it helped some fans just to KNOW, and to stop suffering, you know, just moving on... They could know that MJ's body was there, and have an image to hang on to. I don't think she meant to hurt Micheal, doing this.
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She has opened her account is very busy writing.....the hole day...
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
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She is back on... been on for hours denying the hoax. :?
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Guys... Karen has been on twitter all day and is still going strong.
She is answering many questions from hoax believers.
Too many to cut and paste, so check it out here: http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
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She probably had a crush on him.
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She probably had a crush on him.
it was more of an obsession, lol she despised any woman in his life lol she hated all of them women he liked
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She is tweeting about the hoax... arguing with people. Telling people its not a hoax because she has seen the dead body and did the make up. She is communicating with lots of people on twitter.
heismypeterpan is also joining in on it all.
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damn. can you keep us updated because i am at work and twitter is blocked :(
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what is heismypeterpan saying?
ny way she doesnt hate all the women in his life, she just said she likes LMP...
well what do you guys make of all of this?
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Did you ever notice the way he looks when he is being hugged from behind? 8-)
:lol:
No matter what else you may think of her, the expression on his face when she did on pics and video is worth a fortune
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what is heismypeterpan saying?
ny way she doesnt hate all the women in his life, she just said she likes LMP...
well what do you guys make of all of this?
heismypeterpan is just backing up Karen and saying what she is saying.. but wont answer who she is or how she knows MJ...
I dont know... i wonder why Karen is putting so much time and energy into debunking the hoax theories. And i wonder what has made her come onto twitter ALL day and do this.
Heismypeterpan has also tweeted that the three children are about to have further changes in their lives!!!
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Did you ever notice the way he looks when he is being hugged from behind? 8-)
:lol:
No matter what else you may think of her, the expression on his face when she did on pics and video is worth a fortune
what do you mean?
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Did you ever notice the way he looks when he is being hugged from behind? 8-)
:lol:
No matter what else you may think of her, the expression on his face when she did on pics and video is worth a fortune
what do you mean?
I'll search for some examples...
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I am watching twitter and they are certainly going fro it tonight she is saying that we are delaying our healing and she says about preparing his body for his final journey rubis has said why havent the family closed down the hoax sites
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thanks for the updates ladies
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Look for the expression at his face at 6:30
[youtube:3r8kvyfo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cmyCbq2Hk[/youtube:3r8kvyfo]
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/MJ-3-L-O-V-E-michael-jackson-10802041-450-266.jpg)
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Karen is definitely debunking the Hoax theory on Twitter now. She doesn't want to believe it and some people are trying to give the link to the Hoax forum to her. I still doubt if she is in the Hoax or not. :roll:
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she replied to rubis they have just buried their son they would not have time to know anout hoax site and people have not the heart to tell them
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@mumof3.. why do you think she is doing this? Why put so much energy into this and argue with people? The only people she is replying to are those who are hoax believers.
I have tried several times to ask her some non-hoax related questions but she just ignores me.
To me its strange... if MJ is dead, why would she waste her time on deluded hoax believers? Know what i mean??? If we are all wrong and MJ is dead, then we will all realise it in time... so why would someone who knows for sure he has gone bother to go on twitter all day and argue with people about it?
Seems a bit strange to me. If i was her, i just wouldnt bother. We are all adults and we will all figure it out and believe what we believe is true.
She is protesting too much....
and that isnt me trying to twist things to suit my own beliefs, because i am now leaning towards a decision MJ may well be passed on and this is a murder cover up.......
But i really am thinking that she is protesting too much..
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omg i so want a picture with me hugging mj like that :x i am jealous.
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@Raven.. :lol:
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I know strange she answered me
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I know strange she answered me
what was your question and what did she say?
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I said that i did not want to upset her but so many things have happened to make me feel he is alive that is what i wish she replied i understand
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Midnightmlk has started to twitter now.. 8-)
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Who is that
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Deleted
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I think it is because it is Michael night on twitter
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Her tweets have made my heart feel very very heavy... :cry: :cry: She just said that she swears on her life that our sweet Michael is dead - *crying floods*. I know I don't have to believe it and it seems weird that she's taking so much time to respond to hoax believers but I can't help but feeling so so sad... :( Since noone else is speaking up about the hoax theory maybe she feels she should, idk... And some people are being really rude to her which I don't understand. This woman knew Michael for 20 years are we just going to dismiss everything she says and say that we know better? I for one haven't even had the chance to see Michael perform, let alone met him in person, but oh do I wish I could! I'm so upset now, this week hasn't been my strongest. Woke up with the most swollen eyes, I looked so scary! How much can one actually cry?
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twitter has crashed now oops
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twitter has crashed now oops
:lol:
(http://s3.tinypic.com/339lfzd.jpg)
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i can not see the twitter. but i think it sucks that people are being ride to her. stay strong girl ^ the truth will come out. whether its what we want to hear or not. we are all here for each other..
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twitter has crashed now oops
:lol:
it was just getting interesting or should i say sad people are being horrible to karen
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I know, she should not reply to those attacks
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going back to what Karen said about the family not knowing about hoax sites i find that hard to believe they must know musnt they
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Well judging by replies on the official jack5ons twitter, they know
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thats right so why havnt they done something about the sites and shut them down i am sure they could
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what is heismypeterpan saying?
ny way she doesnt hate all the women in his life, she just said she likes LMP...
well what do you guys make of all of this?
heismypeterpan is just backing up Karen and saying what she is saying.. but wont answer who she is or how she knows MJ...
I dont know... i wonder why Karen is putting so much time and energy into debunking the hoax theories. And i wonder what has made her come onto twitter ALL day and do this.
Heismypeterpan has also tweeted that the three children are about to have further changes in their lives!!!
i wonder why Karen is putting so much time and energy into debunking the hoax theories. And i wonder what has made her come onto twitter ALL day and do this...
the answer is: she has been hired by Michael short before 25...I think that is her job for him now...
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I definitely think some of them know about the hoax sites. A while back fans were able to chat to Marlon and I think many fans started asking about the hoax and if I remember right he denied everything and then I think he left... Idk, if one of my close ones (God forbid!) passed away and people kept telling me he/she was alive I'd be very hurt too I think :( . Someone also posted that Jermaine is a member of a hoax site on his facebook but I doubt it's his real account, but who knows? It would be kind of bizarre if that was true though :?
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Oh the family knows...
and I dunno if the what to make of her tweets, but I have my theory which could be totaly wrong but @ least it helps me...
its just sad, this will make a lot of people lose faith
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AAAHHH I can't get on twitter anymore!! Over capacity !! :evil: :evil:
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AAAHHH I can't get on twitter anymore!! Over capacity !! :evil: :evil:
same here...
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I have had no problems with the twitter page so far...
If what she is saying is true, it must be a drama over there...having done his last make-up then answering these questions must be very emotional
She stopped posting
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Twitter has crashed for me too.
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she is still at it - why
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oh headline - karen faye causes twitter to crash
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She doesn't answer my questions :cry: :cry:
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how do we even know shes the real karen faye??not verified is it
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how do we even know shes the real karen faye??not verified is it
This is a great point!!! We do not know so why believe random people..
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I feel terrible now, and I have to go to sleep :(
What if we are wrong in all this?
I can't go to sleep like this :cry: :cry:
WHY is she(heismypeterpan) saying this:
none of you will ever truly understand what he went through
WHAT did he went through?????
WHY do we only get more questions and NO answers???????
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check the Kenny she is following!! :shock: pretty sure thats not the right one!! ;)
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It is the right Kenny.
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Seems strange that twitter is so busy on this night. Beginning at 7:00 California time, justiceformj is running a campaign to push to overturn the rulings of the court involving the involuntary manslaughter charge against Murray and have the charge upgraded to Murder in the 2nd. Apparently somebody doesn't want that campaign to be successful.
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SOMEBODY NEEDS TO ASK WHY SHES NOT VERIFIED CAUSE I THINK SHE IS B.S ING US!!! :evil:
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It is the right Kenny.
my bad!! :oops: it doesn't say the blog bit on the end when you just put your mouse over who's she's following!! oh well!! :D :lol:
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Maybe she's not in on it? Maybe she thinks he's really dead. If I were MJ's family, I would be offended by these hoax sites if he had in fact "died" but his family hasn't even said anything? It's been a while now, they would be able to say something. Especially if he has passed away he wouldn't want his fans holding on to false hope that he's alive. & what if the kids were able to sneak onto the computer & read these sites, if he is gone that could be damaging to them. But they haven't even tried to say no it's not true, please stop or anything. So I don't care what Karen Faye says. Also, she obviously had a crush. In every picture posted SHE is hugging HIM but he is NOT hugging back, just posing for the picture with her. I wouldn't lose hope just because of her rants. Sorry. & heismypeterpan we've already discussed is some crazy fan who is pretending to be someone, yet she has all fake Jackson pages on her account & all of the pictures she has she got off the internet. idk about this midnightmlk person though, that person probably isn't involved in the hoax & is just as crazy/weird as Karen & heismypeterpan. jmo :roll: I really don't think Karen has a part, I think she's just ranting about whatever on her own. I mean one minute she's saying Kenny Ortega is a bad guy, the next she's tweeting to him...but he doesn't tweet back.
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Maybe she's not in on it? Maybe she thinks he's really dead. If I were MJ's family, I would be offended by these hoax sites if he had in fact "died" but his family hasn't even said anything? It's been a while now, they would be able to say something. Especially if he has passed away he wouldn't want his fans holding on to false hope that he's alive. & what if the kids were able to sneak onto the computer & read these sites, if he is gone that could be damaging to them. But they haven't even tried to say no it's not true, please stop or anything. So I don't care what Karen Faye says. Also, she obviously had a crush. In every picture posted SHE is hugging HIM but he is NOT hugging back, just posing for the picture with her. I wouldn't lose hope just because of her rants. Sorry.
Very good post.
:idea:
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@neverendinghop I would say you are wrong..there is NOTHING to be "in on"...I am sorry, but I can not keep addressing this.
So she is either very unaware of the hoax or she is playing her part.
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ok yes i know im having a blonde moment but i cant get the hang of twitter .. how do i ask someone a question on there? so it shows on their page? i check on tweets mentioning my name but how do i tweet someone else so i know they will read it????
(p.s. before all the blondes go off on one about my comment, im blonde too 8-) )
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Even if the family did address us hoaxers, no one will believe them. People dismiss pretty much everything that comes out that contradicts our "hoax" theory. They will be in a lose-lose situation and just be called liars or some hoaxer will turn it around and say "see we must be right and they are just trying to cover their tracks" or something like that.
I have no problem with the family not addressing us. They are not obligated to. I think Karen shouldn't be dismissed so easily either. But that's just my opinion.
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ok yes i know im having a blonde moment but i cant get the hang of twitter .. how do i ask someone a question on there? so it shows on their page? i check on tweets mentioning my name but how do i tweet someone else so i know they will read it????
(p.s. before all the blondes go off on one about my comment, im blonde too 8-) )
If you put an @ for their name, it will show up in their '@username' list. So if you tweet @wingheart it wil show up in KF's list.
I hope I'm clear on this. ;)
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Look for the expression at his face at 6:30
[youtube:3j5vwr68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cmyCbq2Hk[/youtube:3j5vwr68]
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/MJ-3-L-O-V-E-michael-jackson-10802041-450-266.jpg)
This really reminded me of something. When he is saying about the people who challenge him so then he starts to challenge them.
Remind me of TII. Its like... the press started challenging him when he announced it sayin he couldnt pull off something that big and the performance of it all etc.. makes me wonder.... now they think they were right but if he comes back then its kinda the same thing cause then he would be challenging them.. like see. I could do it and i went 1 step further than anyone else too!
Now that would be great.
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Maybe she's not in on it? Maybe she thinks he's really dead. If I were MJ's family, I would be offended by these hoax sites if he had in fact "died" but his family hasn't even said anything? It's been a while now, they would be able to say something. Especially if he has passed away he wouldn't want his fans holding on to false hope that he's alive. & what if the kids were able to sneak onto the computer & read these sites, if he is gone that could be damaging to them. But they haven't even tried to say no it's not true, please stop or anything. So I don't care what Karen Faye says. Also, she obviously had a crush. In every picture posted SHE is hugging HIM but he is NOT hugging back, just posing for the picture with her. I wouldn't lose hope just because of her rants. Sorry. & heismypeterpan we've already discussed is some crazy fan who is pretending to be someone, yet she has all fake Jackson pages on her account & all of the pictures she has she got off the internet. idk about this midnightmlk person though, that person probably isn't involved in the hoax & is just as crazy/weird as Karen & heismypeterpan. jmo :roll: I really don't think Karen has a part, I think she's just ranting about whatever on her own. I mean one minute she's saying Kenny Ortega is a bad guy, the next she's tweeting to him...but he doesn't tweet back.
she doesnt know about it? then whose dead body did she apply make up on or wheatever it is she's saying...
Do you think the family just told her to say that to keep people quite? or is she lying?
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ok yes i know im having a blonde moment but i cant get the hang of twitter .. how do i ask someone a question on there? so it shows on their page? i check on tweets mentioning my name but how do i tweet someone else so i know they will read it????
(p.s. before all the blondes go off on one about my comment, im blonde too 8-) )
If you put an @ for their name, it will show up in their '@username' list. So if you tweet @wingheart it wil show up in KF's list.
I hope I'm clear on this. ;)
Thank you sooo much :D
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Maybe she's not in on it? Maybe she thinks he's really dead. If I were MJ's family, I would be offended by these hoax sites if he had in fact "died" but his family hasn't even said anything? It's been a while now, they would be able to say something. Especially if he has passed away he wouldn't want his fans holding on to false hope that he's alive. & what if the kids were able to sneak onto the computer & read these sites, if he is gone that could be damaging to them. But they haven't even tried to say no it's not true, please stop or anything. So I don't care what Karen Faye says. Also, she obviously had a crush. In every picture posted SHE is hugging HIM but he is NOT hugging back, just posing for the picture with her. I wouldn't lose hope just because of her rants. Sorry. & heismypeterpan we've already discussed is some crazy fan who is pretending to be someone, yet she has all fake Jackson pages on her account & all of the pictures she has she got off the internet. idk about this midnightmlk person though, that person probably isn't involved in the hoax & is just as crazy/weird as Karen & heismypeterpan. jmo :roll: I really don't think Karen has a part, I think she's just ranting about whatever on her own. I mean one minute she's saying Kenny Ortega is a bad guy, the next she's tweeting to him...but he doesn't tweet back.
she doesnt know about it? then whose dead body did she apply make up on or wheatever it is she's saying...
Do you think the family just told her to say that to keep people quite? or is she lying?
That is the one thing that puzzles me. The official statement from the Jackson Family is that MJ's face was damaged because of the CPR and that is why the castket was closed. But LaToya said he looked wonderful! And KF applied make up! Why would you apply make up to a damaged months old corpse? (ouch, that's so morbid, even for me)
It is a fact that KF has been trashing the Jacksons. Why did she all of a sudden come back? It smells fishy, too fishy. Maybe she is so grateful for not being a persona non grata any more, that she would do anything to keep in touch with the Jacksons. Even make little statements about applying some ones make up.
And heck, she could be telling the truth! Maybe she did do MJ's make up, so he was looking fine when he was backstage, checking out the memorial and funeral. :mrgreen:
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seriously how do we know she is the real KF?? also why the heck would you reapply makeup to a 2 month old corpse?? for what purpose? noone saw him at the actual funeral/burial...uh....im just kinda weirded out by that anyone else??
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seriously how do we know she is the real KF?? also why the heck would you reapply makeup to a 2 month old corpse?? for what purpose? noone saw him at the actual funeral/burial...uh....im just kinda weirded out by that anyone else??
If you go to the "TII" list on Twitter Karen Faye is a part of that group also the dancers & most people involved in "TII" so it is her account, but why is she grouped in with "TII" when she has lashed out against everything & everyone involved in "TII"???????
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well she probably still got paid and banked the cheque
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I have been watching her all day and I think we shoud be careful, something is just not right about her.
If she say that MJ is indeed dead then why didn't the family come forwars to stop the hoax. And if he is dead which he his not, wouldn't that be hurtfull to the family? think about it. Something is going on with that women that gives me the chills. So be careful guys. I think we need to ivestgate her and find out what her problem is.
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usually when someone staarts trying to get you off theor backs, it is because you are very close to something. So they start ranting and raving about it, because you are too close in discovering something and they must cover their tracks. Personally i do not care about Karen Faye, she was just an employee and yes she has pictures with Mj, but Mj loved everybody so that is not strange to me at all. I said loves everybody, but he was not in love with her just FYI.
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That woman's obsession. To a point it's unhealthy.
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was karen faye at the memorial and the funeral?
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my tweets:
@wingheart Why you lied about preparing Michael to his final resting. We all know that you are not allowed to do such make-up. Why you lied?
about 11 hours ago via web
@neverendinghop it may not be allowed where you live, but this is a common request by established long time relationships here in LA
about 11 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet @neverendinghop I have done it twice now. I did it for Vincent Minnelli, when Liza requested me too. Several Hollywood makeup artists have
about 11 hours ago via web
Delete @wingheart Do you know how many proofs we have of him being alive?
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@neverendinghop no I do not know.
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
@wingheart would you like to know then?
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@neverendinghop of course, post a site of information for those who wish to understand your point of view.
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
@wingheart http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/)
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart So how its possible that we havent seen even ONE pic? Even ONE?Why??
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart Karen, I guess,no way that its all just a coincidence....
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart But you must admit that its strange, ISNT IT?
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@neverendinghop I admit there are many strange things, but that does not change what I know to be true :(
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
@wingheart Just tell me- would you swear on your life that he's dead?
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@neverendinghop yes
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
@wingheart Did you see TII after credits scene? You remember his words?
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart Let me breathe in my own time and I'll come back in. I'll button my shirt, jacket, or whatever this is...
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart so please watch just this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHz6xbbHO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHz6xbbHO0)
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
Reply Retweet @neverendinghop this has NOTHING to do with me. These questions have no place being asked of me. Perhaps it is still just too painful.
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
Reply Retweet @neverendinghop I didn't see the end, I couldn't watch.
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
@wingheart Ok so just tell me how its possible that we didnt see even ONE pic of MJ? Not in ambulance,not in hostpial,not autpsy,not casket?
about 9 hours ago via web
@wingheart Its Michael Jackson. Its impossible to keep it in the closet... I cant believe you dont have such pics, if he is indeed dead.?
about 9 hours ago via web
@neverendinghop I understand where your question is coming from Please remember where I am, when you ask it.
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
@wingheart Please remember where we are, when you answer.
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart What would u say if I say that you are on it? That you just play your part in this game/hoax? :)
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart Maybe youre part is to make peeps believe that he's dead....
about 10 hours ago via web
@neverendinghop I would say you are wrong..there is NOTHING to be "in on"...I am sorry, but I can not keep addressing this.
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to neverendinghop
and more tweets of the others:
@wingheart Karen, don't you think that if MJ was really dead his family would do something in order to shut down Hoax Forums?
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@rubis1966 NO they buried their son, they probably do not know much about a hoax. No one would even have the heart to bring it up to them.
about 10 hours ago via web in reply to rubis1966
@wingheart But then Why there are so many strange things about his death ?
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart
@wingheart I always thought that MJ was alive, but reading what you write, my hope is they are going. It hurts. I feel so sad !!
about 11 hours ago via web
@Christian2310 I have many unanswered questions also But the conclusions for me is not that he is still alive, because I have personal proof
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to Christian2310
@worldofanja dah...cuz there is no hoax.
about 12 hours ago via web in reply to worldofanja
@worldofanja No, I do not believe in the hoax theory.
about 11 hours ago via web in reply to worldofanja
@BelieveInLove27 sorry I do not follow your theories, so I can not answer your questions.
about 12 hours ago via web in reply to BelieveInLove27
@TinchenR I am secure that I speak the truth. I am a target for everyone. I'm okay...Michael taught me how to stand up for the truth.
about 12 hours ago via web in reply to TinchenR
@normajean76 believe as you wish. I am not here to prove anything to you.
about 13 hours ago via web in reply to normajean76
@neverletyoupart no...just deleted them, because it was too difficult for me to deal with right after he died. I am stronger now.
about 13 hours ago via web in reply to neverletyoupart
any thoughts? conclusions? (invest-) (invest-)
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@neverendinghope
This pretty much underlines that he is gone. if this is KF. She is right when she says that there are qustions and contradictions BUT it does not mean Michael Jackson is alive. It is just like that there are discrepancies, but it does not mean that it underlines that Michael Jackson is alive...
But who knows maybe she just plays her part
[youtube:21frsy3n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSaPo2Wzk0g[/youtube:21frsy3n]
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she went on for ages after that too
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Joseph died, not Joe.
If she's in love with Joseph, of course she's mourning.
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was karen faye at the memorial and the funeral?
yes she was.
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wow. i kinda feel bad for her. everyone seemed to be bombarding her with questions. maybe she lashed back like that because she was feeling defensive? you know, some people protect themselves by getting short and upset. i thought it was weird that she came on to twitter to debunk the hoax theory, but then she allowed someone to post a link to the forum. isn't that kind of contradicting the whole point of her rant? i dont know what to make of this guys. it could be bad news. on the positive side: shes the ONLY one who has come forth to say this. not family. if anything, the family says things to provoke the hoax theory. it's all confusing.
but, like a previous poster said, usually people deny everything when someone gets close to the truth. maybe someone on here said something, posted something that was so spot on, michael had to send her out to the twitter universe to throw us off a little. You know this is on his time, and maybe we got something before we should have. it's just an idea. But oh, we're onto you Mr. Jackson.
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I have noticed on her recent twitter rant.. she has denied being nasty about Tatiana. This is untrue.. i remember several unkind comment she made on her FB page about Tatiana.
She lies.. or she is mad and forgets what she has already said in the past.
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i agree with those that have said that Karen has reprised her role. First she got everyone all stirred up about the murder and now she has been charged with getting the hoax believers to quiet down. It's no coincidence that when TMZ posted the hoax site as a source of info and a British media outlet reported the story about Piano Games and Uri Geller, that Karen gets back out there to quiet things down. Really if Michael did hoax his death because he did want to escape the madness then we should be respecting his wishes. If we kick up too much of a fuss, then maybe we will ruin it for him. Also this is a little too graphic for me so it may offend and i am sorry for that but she said " i applied make up to "a" lifeless body. She didn't give the body a name which spoke volumes to me. It wasn't Michael's body and she knows it.
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Seems Karen has been twittering again. This time @SueEtok told her to go to the DA if she had any information :roll:
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Seems Karen has been twittering again. This time @SueEtok told her to go to the DA if she had any information :roll:
Yes the same Susan Etok she was slagging off on her FB. :roll:
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Seems Karen has been twittering again. This time @SueEtok told her to go to the DA if she had any information :roll:
Yes the same Susan Etok she was slagging off on her FB. :roll:
:lol: Perhaps Susan hasn't found out yet? Wonder what information she means
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I am watching twitter and they are certainly going fro it tonight she is saying that we are delaying our healing and she says about preparing his body for his final journey rubis has said why havent the family closed down the hoax sites
How can the family shut down the hoax sites?
How does the family not know about the hoax sites?
What strange statements to me. :?:
by mjkate » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:31 am
i agree with those that have said that Karen has reprised her role. First she got everyone all stirred up about the murder and now she has been charged with getting the hoax believers to quiet down. It's no coincidence that when TMZ posted the hoax site as a source of info and a British media outlet reported the story about Piano Games and Uri Geller, that Karen gets back out there to quiet things down. Really if Michael did hoax his death because he did want to escape the madness then we should be respecting his wishes. If we kick up too much of a fuss, then maybe we will ruin it for him. Also this is a little too graphic for me so it may offend and i am sorry for that but she said " i applied make up to "a" lifeless body. She didn't give the body a name which spoke volumes to me. It wasn't Michael's body and she knows it.
Huh, How has KF quieted down the hoaxer believers?
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Huh, How has KF quieted down the hoaxer believers?
I was thinking the samething as you, she hasn't quieted us down...More like stirred us up even more, lol. No offense to her, but she seems to be good at that.
But, like most others have said, she could be playing a role. I guess that only time can tell.
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i didn't say she DID quiet us down....just that maybe she was charged with that as part of her role.
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i didn't say she DID quiet us down....just that maybe she was charged with that as part of her role.
Oh honey, I was not saying any wrong with your statement. :) I thought it was a brillant statement. Thank you for bringing it on your post. She could be charged with that role. MJKate, I think that us believers will never be quieted down. :D We will to search for the truth together. ;) God bless you, MJKate, being here on this journey with us! :D
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http://truthprevails.heavenforum.com/forum.htm (http://truthprevails.heavenforum.com/forum.htm)
pianogames weblog
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Karen is going mental on twitter now.. i think she is going into meltdown.. her and that Samantha stalker girl.
I mean.. what is going on?
On twitter Karen has said that KEnny O is gay and not married.. but Kenny IS married and there are photos online of Kenny with his wife!!! WTH!!!
Karen has denied writing a book and putting "hit lists" of people on FB.. but i used to be on her FB and i witnessed that she wrote she was writing a book and she did put a hit list out.
What is wrong with the woman???
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I for one feel like Karen is a DRAMA QUEEN who seeks a lot of attention. Or there may be mental issues going on. Sometimes she totatlly contradicts herself! Also.....I see that she obviously was very much inlove (and still is ) with MJ but (even though we really dont know the significance of their relationship) I feel like she still is inluv with him and I personally do not feel MJ was inlove with this woman. Maybe things did not go as Karen wished with MJ? Maybe they rumpled the sack a bit and MJ lost interest? WHO knows! But there is attention seeking activity on her part. That is just my opinion though. :?
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I'll go read it...if you're away for a bit you're immediately behind...can't keep up :lol:
She should not go into fights with everyone, and not reply to people that attack her. She should be wiser with her age.
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8-) She miscounted the numbers of zero's in 2 billion
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8-) She miscounted the numbers of zero's in 2 billion
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I for one feel like Karen is a DRAMA QUEEN who seeks a lot of attention. Or there may be mental issues going on. Sometimes she totatlly contradicts herself! Also.....I see that she obviously was very much inlove (and still is ) with MJ but (even though we really dont know the significance of their relationship) I feel like she still is inluv with him and I personally do not feel MJ was inlove with this woman. Maybe things did not go as Karen wished with MJ? Maybe they rumpled the sack a bit and MJ lost interest? WHO knows! But there is attention seeking activity on her part. That is just my opinion though. :?
i agree but imo, karen was his make up artist that was it, she was their to do a job not fantasize about him, i understand its hard not to but i dont think anything ever was going on with them i think karen likes to think they had a close relationship when in fact they didnt. this is just my opinion, mj did not mix pleasure with business and those are his words, i think she was stalker ish and she was a little obsessed with him but i think to michael she was just an employee and a friend nothing more. i dont think she is someone he would consider spilling his deepest darkest secrets to. lol she has a big mouth. again just my opinion lol.
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I am watching twitter and they are certainly going fro it tonight she is saying that we are delaying our healing and she says about preparing his body for his final journey rubis has said why havent the family closed down the hoax sites
How can the family shut down the hoax sites?
How does the family not know about the hoax sites?
What strange statements to me. :?:
by mjkate » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:31 am
i agree with those that have said that Karen has reprised her role. First she got everyone all stirred up about the murder and now she has been charged with getting the hoax believers to quiet down. It's no coincidence that when TMZ posted the hoax site as a source of info and a British media outlet reported the story about Piano Games and Uri Geller, that Karen gets back out there to quiet things down. Really if Michael did hoax his death because he did want to escape the madness then we should be respecting his wishes. If we kick up too much of a fuss, then maybe we will ruin it for him. Also this is a little too graphic for me so it may offend and i am sorry for that but she said " i applied make up to "a" lifeless body. She didn't give the body a name which spoke volumes to me. It wasn't Michael's body and she knows it.
Huh, How has KF quieted down the hoaxer believers?
but surely mike would have factored the hoax believers in
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OK Guys!!! ;)
This has surfaced & it seems Karen Faye & Randy Jackson are still at it...!!
Very interesting read......
http://truthmjworld.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... l#comments (http://truthmjworld.blogspot.com/2010/03/truth-learn-it-live-it.html#comments)
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Karen is going mental on twitter now.. i think she is going into meltdown.. her and that Samantha stalker girl.
I mean.. what is going on?
On twitter Karen has said that KEnny O is gay and not married.. but Kenny IS married and there are photos online of Kenny with his wife!!! WTH!!!
Karen has denied writing a book and putting "hit lists" of people on FB.. but i used to be on her FB and i witnessed that she wrote she was writing a book and she did put a hit list out.
What is wrong with the woman???
A hit list on FB from KF????? Wow! :shock: How scary. :shock:
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
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which picture? I didnt see anything about memorial.
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
You might be right about that.
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
You might be right about that.
Oh ok.. i understand now. Why dont she just say that>???
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
You might be right about that.
Oh ok.. i understand now. Why dont she just say that>???
KF has always been cryptic with her Tweets. It gives the impression that she knows something when really she knows 'jack'! ;) ;)
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which picture? I didnt see anything about memorial.
There is a picture on the memorial stone which was recently unveiled in Gary - the stone has various pictures of Michael on it from throughout his life BUT one of the pics is actually of E'Cas and not Michael - oops!! :lol:
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I always thought that was just an honest mistake and not at all hoax related. Bless those elder's eyes, poor folks!
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
You might be right about that.
Oh ok.. i understand now. Why dont she just say that>???
KF has always been cryptic with her Tweets. It gives the impression that she knows something when really she knows 'jack'! ;) ;)
she was crying like every mintue on 20/20, how could she be part of the hoax?
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which picture? I didnt see anything about memorial.
There is a picture on the memorial stone which was recently unveiled in Gary - the stone has various pictures of Michael on it from throughout his life BUT one of the pics is actually of E'Cas and not Michael - oops!! :lol:
Thank you :mrgreen:
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She's a liar & I don't believe her for one second. I think she's the one who needs the straight jacket & the padded cell :roll:
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It took along time for her to notice it or comment on it
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It seems like people get confused by that pic. Didn't they make the same mistake using the same E'Casanova's pic in the money at the VMA's?
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For that elders who will refer you wear? :?:
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Can someone please post a piccy of E'C that is on memorial stone? Thank you in advance and God bless you! :)
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
this is the first I'm hearing of this...what do you mean E'cas pic on stone? LOL
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Karen has just tweeted this:
A mistake that needs correcting. Can we be kinder? Let's give credit to E'C for being so talented, and elders that wear glasses.
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Is she referring to the picture of E'Cas on the memorial stone in Gary??
this is the first I'm hearing of this...what do you mean E'cas pic on stone? LOL
There's a picture of E'Casanova among the pictures of Michael on his memorial stone that was unveiled in Gary Indiana on the anniversary of June 25 by Katherine.
It's this picture. (http://i46.tinypic.com/qn224p.jpg)
its kind of hard to see. its the 2nd picture from the left in the middle section.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/6eg4ec.jpg)
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ah ha ha ha! That's the first time I saw the backside of it...LOL...E'cas must be estatic! Now I get Karen's tweet...totally! LOL!
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This is the first time that I noticed they used a pic of MJ getting a piece of candy while on the stand in court. I have always thought that series of pics are so funny!
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The elders obviously forgot their glasses when proof-reading the stone.
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Look guys
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It's the picture of E'Cas
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"@MicheleKC61187 Pearl Jr. "knows" nothing. She is making up stuff to sell her book. Don't be so gullible."
:?
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"knows"= she really knows?
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"knows"= she really knows?
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Sorry I guess I don't understand your post.
lol forgive me
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Just like you Faye..
Crying crocodile tears while selling us a story ..very touching.. (actually not)
So it was you who did the make-up right? Oh no it was FL staff! Please folks out there "MAKE UP YOUR MIND" and get the story straight..
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"knows"= she really knows?
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Sorry I guess I don't understand your post.
lol forgive me
Knows between " - ", is it supouse to have a remarkable meaning?
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If that's true then the family would have done something about it, as it would only create "rumors" and encourage people to believe in something that isn't true..
And I haven't heard a family member mention it so far..
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I think she's just mocking Pearl.
Since she claims that she is so knowledgeable on the hoax.
she writes "knows" to emphasize that she's lying. ;)
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Just like you Faye..
Crying crocodile tears while selling us a story ..very touching.. (actually not)
So it was you who did the make-up right? Oh no it was FL staff! Please folks out there "MAKE UP YOUR MIND" and get the story straight..
This is true...I've heard the same thing...hmm
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wasn't there a person who was talking about pearls book who didn't like it. that person made some refereance to how karen made micheal look sometimes or something maybe the term used was like a drag queen. please don't get mad. it just seems like i remember it .you guys are better at actually finding this stuff. :|
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wasn't there a person who was talking about pearls book who didn't like it. that person made some refereance to how karen made micheal look sometimes or something maybe the term used was like a drag queen. please don't get mad. it just seems like i remember it .you guys are better at actually finding this stuff. :|
There was a member on the other forum who posted a video on all of the reasons why she didn't approve of the book. Is this what you're referring to?
And why ? btw lol just wondering
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I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
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I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
I met her there as well and she said the same but then..why wasn't she sitting in the actual VIP section?
That's what confused me
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I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
I met her there as well and she said the same but then..why wasn't she sitting in the actual VIP section?
That's what confused me
She was, 2 tables to the left of Katherines, against the railing. I seen her there when we first arrived when she had just got done eating. Were you there with the MBWF group?
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Please someone explain me this ... ??
How comes...
[youtube:18p3tsr7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnMCRBFGztw[/youtube:18p3tsr7]
EDIT: I lol @ this .. this was uploaded on 02 july 2008 .. uhm, so she met the Jackson family way before Michael's "death".. how odd is this..
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I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
I met her there as well and she said the same but then..why wasn't she sitting in the actual VIP section?
That's what confused me
She was, 2 tables to the left of Katherines, against the railing.
when I saw her she was to the RIGHT of katherine, outside of the vip section, at a table against the railing.
which is where I was and that was not vip..anyone could go there...and she sat there til the end of the show when I saw her.
hmm
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I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
I met her there as well and she said the same but then..why wasn't she sitting in the actual VIP section?
That's what confused me
She was, 2 tables to the left of Katherines, against the railing.
when I saw her she was to the RIGHT of katherine, outside of the vip section, at a table against the railing.
which is where I was and that was not vip..anyone could go there...and she sat there til the end of the show when I saw her.
hmm
LOL., I meant the right, sorry. Okay, one of two things, She was a VIP and moved, or , she wasnt a VIP and was visiting in the VIP section. :lol: Either way, she was having a good time, and wasnt being stopped by the family. When I talked to her at the MBWF banquet, she told me that she had been invited by the family.
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Pearl was present in the 2005 trial. She seems to know the family?
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Pearl was present in the 2005 trial. She seems to know the family?
She has said that many times, yes. She apparently knows Joe quite well.
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I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
I met her there as well and she said the same but then..why wasn't she sitting in the actual VIP section?
That's what confused me
She was, 2 tables to the left of Katherines, against the railing.
when I saw her she was to the RIGHT of katherine, outside of the vip section, at a table against the railing.
which is where I was and that was not vip..anyone could go there...and she sat there til the end of the show when I saw her.
hmm
LOL., I meant the right, sorry. Okay, one of two things, She was a VIP and moved, or , she wasnt a VIP and was visiting in the VIP section. :lol: Either way, she was having a good time, and wasnt being stopped by the family. When I talked to her at the MBWF banquet, she told me that she had been invited by the family.
Hahah it's fine.
And yes same. she said "They put me here"
But i just figured if she were vip she would've stayed there when she wasn't visiting with people...you know what i mean?
If I were invited by them, heck i'd stay there in the vip, unless I decided to mingle....but then I'd come back...I wouldn't just decide to stay somewhere else after that.
So yes, you could be right...maybe she was moved ...
Ah she is a confusing character.
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She also signed and circled Feb. 14th on my new calender when I asked her how much longer this was going to go on.
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She also signed and circled Feb. 14th on my new calender when I asked her how much longer this was going to go on.
That's odd
So her prediction is V-day of next year?
Hmm so what is your opinion?
Trustworthy or not?
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She also signed and circled Feb. 14th on my new calender when I asked her how much longer this was going to go on.
What´s the meaning? St.Valantines?
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She also signed and circled Feb. 14th on my new calender when I asked her how much longer this was going to go on.
What´s the meaning? St.Valantines?
Not sure, but The 14th is sure a long time. :(
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This is unbelievable..
Pseudocide Pearl Jr in English Gematria Equals: 1086 ---> 15; 15:5= 3
Pseudocide Pearl Jr = Autopsy Report, Michael Jackson And The Spider, Lifes Too Short, You Are Not Alone, See You In July
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wasn't there a person who was talking about pearls book who didn't like it. that person made some refereance to how karen made micheal look sometimes or something maybe the term used was like a drag queen. please don't get mad. it just seems like i remember it .you guys are better at actually finding this stuff. :|
There was a member on the other forum who posted a video on all of the reasons why she didn't approve of the book. Is this what you're referring to?
And why ? btw lol just wondering
only that it would be human nature to lash out at pearl jr. for that .
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wasn't there a person who was talking about pearls book who didn't like it. that person made some refereance to how karen made micheal look sometimes or something maybe the term used was like a drag queen. please don't get mad. it just seems like i remember it .you guys are better at actually finding this stuff. :|
There was a member on the other forum who posted a video on all of the reasons why she didn't approve of the book. Is this what you're referring to?
And why ? btw lol just wondering
only that it would be human nature to lash out at pearl jr. for that .
That's true.
She could just be speaking of what she says about her ;)
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I read Pearl's book and there were somethings I think were a bit unnecessary,but it's her book and she's free to write what she wants.
What I find interesting about her is that she is the first person who has some close ties with the family who believes MJ is alive and hoaxed his death.
She has proof of her ties to the family with videos and interviews and photos.
Karen of course does not like her due to the reallly bad things she wrote in the book about Karen.
I know Karen did MJ's make-up, but it took 9 hours and when she was done it has to pass the Randy Jackson test before anyone could see him at the private service.
Karen also sold a pic to TMZ and she is working on a book, along with others who are close to MJ.
The truth about these two is somewhere in the middle. Both know something, one is a beLIEver and the other is not.
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I read Pearl's book and there were somethings I think were a bit unnecessary,but it's her book and she's free to write what she wants.
What I find interesting about her is that she is the first person who has some close ties with the family who believes MJ is alive and hoaxed his death.
She has proof of her ties to the family with videos and interviews and photos.
Karen of course does not like her due to the reallly bad things she wrote in the book about Karen.
I know Karen did MJ's make-up, but it took 9 hours and when she was done it has to pass the Randy Jackson test before anyone could see him at the private service.
Karen also sold a pic to TMZ and she is working on a book, along with others who are close to MJ.
The truth about these two is somewhere in the middle. Both know something, one is a beLIEver and the other is not.
True. I think both should be watched ...
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"@MicheleKC61187 Pearl Jr. "knows" nothing. She is making up stuff to sell her book. Don't be so gullible."
She was referring to Pearl Jr. whom apparently stated that she knows why Karen Faye was rehired.
:?
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By the way, its very ummmmm interesting to say the least in reading Pearl Jr tweets! LOL Lordy I am always surprised at how vocal some folks are on twitter;)
http://twitter.com/Pearljr (http://twitter.com/Pearljr)
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I have heard this name before Pearl Jr. but I'm not familiar with this person. Can someone explain who they are exactly and how this person knows the Jackson family?
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I believe Karen is a liar and a drunk. She is selling her video archive and pictures of Michael NOW to make money.
Have you ever wondered why Karen is hated by so many people?? By fans and insiders?? There has to be something in that... no one seems to like her at all.
Also.. why wasnt Karen at the VIP event and Pearl was???
Pearl was invited to Forest Lawn on June 25th by Randy Jackson for heavens sakes.... this is confusing me so much. There has to be a reason for this... or as people have said, wouldnt the family just come out and denounce Pearl?
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I have not read Pearl Jr. book yet because I do not have one of the book reader need to read emovie books. But, I will get one. I have recently
purchased Michael Jackson: The Trial and Triumph of The King of Pop by Pearl Jr., and I love it. I believe Pearl Jr. I also believed that only FL beautican would do the make-up of a dead person coming into their funeral home, and not an outside person. For me, MJ is alive. Too many missing pieces of the jigsaw, for me, since June 25, 2009! MJ, Daddy, I love you, and I am praying for your safe return home to your loved ones. Do not worry, baby, we have your back forever! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I have heard this name before Pearl Jr. but I'm not familiar with this person. Can someone explain who they are exactly and how this person knows the Jackson family?
http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/aboutus.html (http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/aboutus.html)
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I believe Karen is a liar and a drunk. She is selling her video archive and pictures of Michael NOW to make money.
Have you ever wondered why Karen is hated by so many people?? By fans and insiders?? There has to be something in that... no one seems to like her at all.
Also.. why wasnt Karen at the VIP event and Pearl was???
Pearl was invited to Forest Lawn on June 25th by Randy Jackson for heavens sakes.... this is confusing me so much. There has to be a reason for this... or as people have said, wouldnt the family just come out and denounce Pearl?
Ersh, she's not one of my favorite people, either, and the thing that really stumps me the most is how she can continue to lash out at all of these other people when she has lied so much herself- unless she's in on it, which is so hard to say..
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I have heard this name before Pearl Jr. but I'm not familiar with this person. Can someone explain who they are exactly and how this person knows the Jackson family?
http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/aboutus.html (http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/aboutus.html)
Wow thank you for posting this link about Pearl Jr. I'm a black female and I'm suprised that I didn't know who she was. She seem like a very accomplished lady. I was impressed looking at her bio. She seem like the real deal. I would like to read those other books she wrote about black women need love and how to train a dawg. :lol: I'm not trying to be mean but I think this lady would have more insight than Karen Faye who is just a make up artist. I saw Karen Faye on 20/20 and she seem fake to me. I can't believe she flashed her panties to MJ when she first met him. That tell you right there what type of female she is. I bet MJ wouldn't give her the time of day. I'm sorry but that's straight tacky.
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I have heard this name before Pearl Jr. but I'm not familiar with this person. Can someone explain who they are exactly and how this person knows the Jackson family?
http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/aboutus.html (http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/aboutus.html)
Wow thank you for posting this link about Pearl Jr. I'm a black female and I'm suprised that I didn't know who she was. She seem like a very accomplished lady. I was impressed looking at her bio. She seem like the real deal. I would like to read those other books she wrote about black women need love and how to train a dawg. :lol: I'm not trying to be mean but I think this lady would have more insight than Karen Faye who is just a make up artist. I saw Karen Faye on 20/20 and she seem fake to me. I can't believe she flashed her panties to MJ when she first met him. That tell you right there what type of female she is. I bet MJ wouldn't give her the time of day. I'm sorry but that's straight tacky.
You are most welcome. Don't be too surprised that you did not know whom she is, as I'm Jewish & I can assure you that there are alot of Jewish folks out there that I should also know about:)
I did not view KF on 20/20, but I have followed her words on twitter. I think that she truly cared about Michael, but I must agree with some others in that she was very much so wanting to be with Michael.
I think that her grief is real, but her inability to convey her feeling w/o anger is very sad. She is not open whatsoever to anyone that attempts to disagree with her. Sad really.
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Well, if it comes to Karen Faye or Pearl, I chose Pearl :lol: When I met Pearl, I actually liked her. I do trust her beliefs and think she knows way more than she is saying. I know alot of people here were upset with her for using their stuff, and I can truely understand that, but at least she is getting it out there for the world to see and read. I know of a few that questioned his death after talking to her. And if only five people change their minds after reading her book, then thats 5 more than we had.
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hmmm...february 14th eh?? :? well he does say ITS ALL FOR L.O.V.E!!!!!! :o
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I believe Karen is a liar and a drunk. She is selling her video archive and pictures of Michael NOW to make money.
Have you ever wondered why Karen is hated by so many people?? By fans and insiders?? There has to be something in that... no one seems to like her at all.
Also.. why wasnt Karen at the VIP event and Pearl was???
Pearl was invited to Forest Lawn on June 25th by Randy Jackson for heavens sakes.... this is confusing me so much. There has to be a reason for this... or as people have said, wouldnt the family just come out and denounce Pearl?
What a cow how the hell can you sell things that are so dear to your heart woudnt you want to treasure them she can't be that broke what a user sponger I have zero time for her now and it looks like pearl is twittering back at her showing us what she is really like. I always thought people dissliked Karen because she was close to michael and they were jealous this is not the case they know what she is like I thought she was in on the hoax but she is not she is to busy going to the bank
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I read Pearl's book and I find her credible. Her support of Michael during the trial and her reporting is honorable. I'm sure the family and MJ took notice of that.
She remarks knowing Joe pretty well and being invited to a couple of his birthday parties.
Pearl Jr. is extremely critical of Karen Faye. She speaks negatively of no other person like she does Karen. Pearl's daughter use to hang out with Karen's daughter and Pearl states in the book that she saw some things that were disturbing about Karen. She also posts in the book a letter that she felt compelled to write Michael warning him to stay away from Karen.
IMPORTANT. As for February 14, 2011, here's info from the book as to why Pearl focuses on this date:
What she points out at the beginning of the book and the end are the number of domains registered to discuss a hoax or something similar all registered on the same day, June 25th, 2009.
Here's some of what she says in the last chapter of the book titled, "MJ and Disguises"
"Check out the fourth person to register another domain about Michael not being dead on the day he dies.Below is the screen of the reigstration from godaddy.com for MichaelJacksonAlive.com:
Domain Name: MichaelJacksonAlive.com
Creation Date: June 25, 2009
Expiration Date: June 25, 2010
"The http://www.MichaelJacksonAlive.com (http://www.MichaelJacksonAlive.com) website is up and running, but http://www.MJisALive.com (http://www.MJisALive.com) is not, yet it was also created on (drum roll please!) June 25, 2009:
Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registered Through GoDaddy.com, Inc.
Domain Name: MJISALIVE.COM
Created on: June 25, 2009
Expires on: June 25, 2010
"Remember DomainsbyProxy is used to keep someone's identity private. I heard through the grapevine that AEG or Sony have purchased these sites."
"The domains listed below are the MOST telling!"
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc.
Domain Name: COMEBACKMICHAELJACKSON.COM
Created on: June 25, 2009
Expires on: June 25, 2010
"http://www.COMEBACKMICHAELJACKSON.com would make the 6th domain registration pertaining to Michael not being dead, registered the same day as his passing. (What Pearl Jr. means by 6 domains: she talks about the other two at the beginning of the book and is refers there to Amy's site and then Mo and Souza's as the first two sites registered on June 25, 2009.)
According to Pearl Jr about the next domain: "This domain is a parked page."
Domain Name: MICHAELJACKSONCOMEBACK.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Creation Date: 14-feb-2007
Expiration Date: 14-feb-2011
Pearl Jr. goes on to say, "All this domain registration business must be indicative of The Biggest Come Back in History. Here's what I'm figuring...
"www.COMEBACKMICHAELJACKSON.com was registered on June 25th, 2009 as a request.
http://www.MICHAELJACKSONCOMEBACK.com (http://www.MICHAELJACKSONCOMEBACK.com) registered on
February 14, 2007 --Valentine's Day as an EVENT. Michael stressed in "This Is It", "It's all for L.O.V.E." there is no other day that symbolizes LOVE more than February 14th - Valentine's Day!"
"Could Michael make a Come Back on Valentine's Day 2011?"
"Michael said in This Is It 'we've got 4 years to get it right.' Four years after the creation date of the website, http://www.MichaelJacksonComeback.com (http://www.MichaelJacksonComeback.com) is 2011! Look at when this domain expires. Michael could also be using this website simply to indicate a Come Back will happen. I guess we'll just have to wait and see!"
Then Pearl says this which is fascinating: "Just in case anyone forgot who the heck Michael Jackson is, I refer them to the 7th website registered on June 25, 2009: Iam-MichaelJackson.com"
Domain Name: IAM-MICHAELJACKSON.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Creation Date: 25-june-2009
Expiration Date: 25-june-2010
End of excerpt from book.
Okay, that's all I'll say in this note. I will add other things in a different note so that this one isn't too much longer (including how Pearl Jr. knows Michael JOE Jackson. She makes sure to emphasize his real name, too!)
I'm intrigued because it is quite a coincidence that a domain about Michael was created on February 14th, which happens to be the day of Love. I mean there are just too many coincidences.
And the fact that there are SEVEN domains. Wow.
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PearlJr's tweets
Karen Faye wrote to me "You heard that from a woman who slept with my husband" & Karen flashed MJ the first day she met him--NASTY NUDIST!!!
about 12 hours ago via web
Karen Faye did do what is written in the EmovieBook, Pseudocide. She better shut up-there's more & the child suffers due to her-I'm ANGRY!
about 12 hours ago via web
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hope wrote:
I was at the "Forever Michael" tribute. Pearl was invited as a VIP by the family. I find it strange that they would invite Pearl to this event if they had a problem with her. Pearl is a part of this. She was openly and freely walking around promoting her book and selling CDs. And was eagerly talking to anyone that had questions. She stated that she is 90% sure he is alive.
We were also told by a FL employee that he knows for a fact that ONLY the mortician does the make-up on FL bodies. No one is brought in from the outside to do the make-up.
If the subject of makeup is so, Karen is lying, and I imagined it :geek:
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PearlJr's tweets
Karen Faye wrote to me "You heard that from a woman who slept with my husband" & Karen flashed MJ the first day she met him--NASTY NUDIST!!!
about 12 hours ago via web
Karen Faye did do what is written in the EmovieBook, Pseudocide. She better shut up-there's more & the child suffers due to her-I'm ANGRY!
about 12 hours ago via web
8-) Loving it. Karen is about to be put on blast
I was looking through some of my MJ albums today and you know at the end when MJ thanks people and sends love.. he always sends love to his family, Liz taylor, Liza minnelli, Diana Ross, Berry Gordy.. etc, etc.. the list is long.. ive yet to see a thankyou and love to Karen Faye
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I have read Pearl's book as well. I think she is very credible. I'll believe her anyday befor Karen.
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I have not read Pearl Jr. book yet because I do not have one of the book reader need to read emovie books. But, I will get one. I have recently
purchased Michael Jackson: The Trial and Triumph of The King of Pop by Pearl Jr., and I love it. I believe Pearl Jr. I also believed that only FL beautican would do the make-up of a dead person coming into their funeral home, and not an outside person. For me, MJ is alive. Too many missing pieces of the jigsaw, for me, since June 25, 2009! MJ, Daddy, I love you, and I am praying for your safe return home to your loved ones. Do not worry, baby, we have your back forever! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
It can be downloaded from Amazon on to your PC and it as at a lower price now. Worth reading in my opinion. I agree with you also about the missing jigsaw pieces.
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I just saw the side michaeljacksonalive.com
If the side was registered on 25.June, how could the admin leave this message:
Michael Jackson is dead!!
By admin on May 29, 2009 | In Background | 39 feedbacks »
O MY GOD Michael Jackson the king of pop is dead what do you think about it?
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I just saw the side michaeljacksonalive.com
If the side was registered on 25.June, how could the admin leave this message:
Michael Jackson is dead!!
By admin on May 29, 2009 | In Background | 39 feedbacks »
O MY GOD Michael Jackson the king of pop is dead what do you think about it?
WTF!
Is there a way to check if the dates were changed?
Does anyone know how to do that?
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I just saw the side michaeljacksonalive.com
If the side was registered on 25.June, how could the admin leave this message:
Michael Jackson is dead!!
By admin on May 29, 2009 | In Background | 39 feedbacks »
O MY GOD Michael Jackson the king of pop is dead what do you think about it?
WTF!
Is there a way to check if the dates were changed?
Does anyone know how to do that?
I was also surprised and found the following:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7660&p=124870&hilit=michaeljacksonalive.com#p124870 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7660&p=124870&hilit=michaeljacksonalive.com#p124870)
Maybe the link can answer your question...?!?
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What? OMG!
I do feel that analyzing the dates of these domain sites is very much worth doing.
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What? OMG!
I do feel that analyzing the dates of these domain sites is very much worth doing.
try going here and reading:
http://www.michaeljacksonalive.com/blog1.php/2009/05/29/about-this-system
;)
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I also found out that the MICHAELJACKSONCOMEBACK.COM page does not have a listing date on http://www.whois.com (http://www.whois.com), but it was registered by a Stanley Pace. Check this out and see for yourselves:
http://domains.whois.com/domain.php
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Interesting. Very much so. Well, if it's true that there was something wrong with the May 29th, date, I wonder why admin never responded. Posters kept asking over and over from what I just read. Also, how is it that the creation date is wrong but all the posts have a correct date? how come there aren't any other wrong dates? :shock: :shock:
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Well, if it comes to Karen Faye or Pearl, I chose Pearl :lol: When I met Pearl, I actually liked her. I do trust her beliefs and think she knows way more than she is saying. I know alot of people here were upset with her for using their stuff, and I can truely understand that, but at least she is getting it out there for the world to see and read. I know of a few that questioned his death after talking to her. And if only five people change their minds after reading her book, then thats 5 more than we had.
spoken like a true person of hope...thanks. I agree - the end result is that people will have hope and truth that Michael is alive and Pearl Jr is providing what we are unable to do - get it out to the masses of Michael's fans.
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Well, I am in this business of registering domains, doing sites, etc. I am not sure it is so suspicous. One of our tricks is this. If we find out there is going to be something popular happening, we register any domain that would be popular. That is money in the bank for us. Anyone that was smart about registering domains and not broke up about Michael passing would have been all over this and there were a lot of people believing that MJ was faking because he wanted to get out of the concerts.
I own two MJ domains myself. However, I this was not for money for me. I plan to use them one day when I get time to breathe..lol.
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Here is what she had to say:
Michael's death is a puzzle. I only hold one piece of the puzzle, which is the piece I experienced. I do not know the entire picture.
1,278,441,173,000.00 via Twitterrific
@PepzMachine supporting delusions services no one. If people do not want the truth...they shouldn't follow me.
1,278,440,753,000.00 via Twitterrific in reply to PepzMachine
My original posts today had NOTHING to do with hoaxers. I wish they would keep me out of their delusional theories.
1,278,440,394,000.00 via Twitterrific
GET ON THE RIGHT PATH if you care about Michael.
1,278,439,339,000.00 via Twitterrific
It's hurtful and frustrating that so much energy is being wasted on the delusion that Michael is still alive, instead of his murder!!!!
1,278,439,215,000.00 via Twitterrific
@LOVE_a_little I keep telling you the absolute truth. If you keep following your delusion, you will never find what you are looking for.
1,278,438,604,000.00 via Twitterrific in reply to LOVE_a_little
@LOVE_a_little I am so OVER the "hoaxers" and them hanging on my every word, twisting it into their delusion. Michael died!!! Deal with it.
1,278,437,936,000.00 via Twitterrific in reply to LOVE_a_little
@LOVE_a_little I have no idea what #ElvisAndMJdotcom is.....
1,278,437,579,000.00 via Twitterrific in reply to LOVE_a_little
There will be many attempted distractions away from the facts. There is much at stake. We must be wise and extremely cautious.
1,278,437,424,000.00 via Twitterrific
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It seems like a good news to hoax believers then.
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To me it doesn't sound good.... :?
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Remember Karen is not supposed to be in the hoax..even though I don't know why did she lie about the makeup and so on. What's her point?
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if we took what we know and operate on the assumption that michael is acutally dead where might it lead?
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Oh God I only read the text above and didn't bother with what she said then. It doesn't sound good at all. :shock:
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I don't know what I should think about Karen...I think she is not in on the hoax. :?
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This is a double post.
But I'll say it again, it seems Karen just wants any attention she can get.
I am LOVE_a_little - that is my twitter account. So technically I'm the one that started this :lol: She was so rude to me...
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I don't know what I should think about Karen...I think she is not in on the hoax. :?
yes i agree with you :? 8-)
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This chick is a half-baked oppurtinist. I dont know why anyone listens to her.
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'Michael is Dead - deal with it' - How rude is that? Also, we don't hang on her every word - she flatters herself too much.
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honestly, i dont care what she says, i'm almost sure she is not among those who are in on this, IMO she would be the one of last persons whom MJ would trust his life and involve in the hoax, it's my opinion, so i think there's no need to worry
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'Michael is Dead - deal with it' - How rude is that? Also, we don't hang on her every word - she flatters herself too much.
that line was cold, even if it was to us "delusional people"...
but hell with it, I been delusional for a long time LOL
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Karen once again :?
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if we took what we know and operate on the assumption that michael is acutally dead where might it lead?
Maybe that he was really murdered, it's happened before, and it will happen again. :cry:
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In my honest opinion, I don't think Michael would approve of the words Karen is using to describe the "hoaxers". Michael has always been grateful and quite humble about his fan support and I don't believe he would ever utter one bad word about anyone (fan or otherwise) in this fashion and I don't think he would condone Karen or any of his family and friends to do the same. For this reason alone, I don't think she is part of the act.
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This chick is a half-baked oppurtinist. I dont know why anyone listens to her.
;) I'm agreeing, She's always looking for attention & is very rude!!!!
She has already sold Michael out by selling his photos & videos, yeah she's a loyal friend, NOT!!! :evil:
Writing in blogs about Michael's "Drug Addiction" & all over facebook & twitter..... :roll:
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I don't know if Karen's in on the hoax or not. If she's in on it, then maybe that's how she deals with the questions - shutting people down. Seems like everyone has a different response - Rebbie smiles, Janet doesn't say much either way, Marlon doesn't pay attention to the investigation, etc.
The beauty of the hoax is that it's going to expose a lot of people's true colors, especially those not involved. If Michael has any doubts about someone, hearing the things they say and seeing how they behave after his "death" will speak volumes.
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She tweeted #ElvisAndMJdotcom :shock:
@LOVE_a_little I have no idea what #ElvisAndMJdotcom is.....
:arrow: now maybe people following here will see this and try to find out what is.
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I tweeted and contacted her on the blog about the petition and seems she gives a s*it
It takes 20s. to sign that and could make other people sign it too, and more important to report that site
If she cared she would have done it. She doesn't. Gimme a break Karen
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Maybe it's the "Michael in me" that hates to see fans being cruel to each other...I just wish it would stop. Hoping the truth will help.
Il y a 20 minutes via Twitterrific
the "Michael in me" :lol: ...She tweeted a lot of message on fans today ..
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Maybe it's the "Michael in me" that hates to see fans being cruel to each other...I just wish it would stop. Hoping the truth will help.
Il y a 20 minutes via Twitterrific
the "Michael in me" :lol: ...She tweeted a lot of message on fans today ..
lol.. now she said she looks at peoples pages and if they are disrespectful to people she blocks them. Well, she blocked me for asking her if she heard about elvisandmj.com :lol: I don't see how that's disrespectful...and I'm certainly not disrespectful others.
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And now she says the believers are "young ones who believe the lies" :lol: :lol: :lol:
Okay, how old is everybody here? I think we've covered that. I may be on the young side but I've made a few friends here who are all over the age of 40...
I've had enough to this woman.
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And now she says the believers are "young ones who believe the lies" :lol: :lol: :lol:
Okay, how old is everybody here? I think we've covered that. I may be on the young side but I've made a few friends here who are all over the age of 40...
I've had enough to this woman.
so right ..she doesn't know what she is speaking about..she try to debunk us,she said "if you were there for him,he would welcomed you too" don't like this sentence..
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She seems to be getting quite angry today on twitter
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She seems to be getting quite angry today on twitter
Really? *goes and checks*
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She has just tweeted this link:
[youtube:lawavt41]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY[/youtube:lawavt41]
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She has just tweeted this link:
[youtube:21pptsut]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY[/youtube:21pptsut]
Well - the timing could be more than coincidental. I'm not sure. This video has been out for a while (love, love, love the video!). Anyway, why tweet it now if it's been out for a while? Hmm...yes, Karen. Michael is a genius...
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Now, I know she knew Michael for many years, but the woman acts like she lived with him all those years :roll: She's his makeup and hairstylist. I know she's also a good friend, but she carries on like she was his girlfriend all those years :roll: :roll: She acts like she was around him 24/7, c'mon, what's going on in her head about Michael Jackson. I bet for a fact that she was in love him. He was the one that introduce her to her now husband from what I've read about her history. I've read her tweets and she carries on like she was his dam wife. :!: :!: :roll:
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http://twitter.com/#!/wingheart
She's tweeting now. I wondered when we would hear from her.
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She is basicly saying, that this is not Michaels work. At least not finished work. I believe her for once. I don't think this was ever ment to be released. He was sold by the family to Sony.
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She is basicly saying, that this is not Michaels work. At least not finished work. I believe her for once. I don't think this was ever ment to be released. He was sold by the family to Sony.
I just wish we knew that everything was going to plan for Michael because something like this (song being released) could stuff things up like if he never meant this song to be released. If he didn't release it maybe Sony released it because they knew Michael is alive or were upset that Michael didn't give them his songs and maybe they are paying him back for that (to make him look bad, certainly the family isnt very happy). I just really hope his alright and everything is working for him according to plan because everyone that was around him turned on him and looked at him with their own personal gain in mind.
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She is basicly saying, that this is not Michaels work. At least not finished work. I believe her for once. I don't think this was ever ment to be released. He was sold by the family to Sony.
I just wish we knew that everything was going to plan for Michael because something like this (song being released) could stuff things up like if he never meant this song to be released. If he didn't release it maybe Sony released it because they knew Michael is alive or were upset that Michael didn't give them his songs and maybe they are paying him back for that (to make him look bad, certainly the family isnt very happy). I just really hope his alright and everything is working for him according to plan because everyone that was around him turned on him and looked at him with their own personal gain in mind.
or a more realistic option would be that Michael is gone :cry: and everyone is just trying to earn a buck on him, no matter what it takes, parasites! So so sad, who is gonna look after those beautiful kids properly? :cry: *shakes head*...
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She is basicly saying, that this is not Michaels work. At least not finished work. I believe her for once. I don't think this was ever ment to be released. He was sold by the family to Sony.
I just wish we knew that everything was going to plan for Michael because something like this (song being released) could stuff things up like if he never meant this song to be released. If he didn't release it maybe Sony released it because they knew Michael is alive or were upset that Michael didn't give them his songs and maybe they are paying him back for that (to make him look bad, certainly the family isnt very happy). I just really hope his alright and everything is working for him according to plan because everyone that was around him turned on him and looked at him with their own personal gain in mind.
or a more realistic option would be that Michael is gone :cry: and everyone is just trying to earn a buck on him, no matter what it takes, parasites! So so sad, who is gonna look after those beautiful kids properly? :cry: *shakes head*...
I hope not
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I do not believe anything he says Karen :? .. I am very convinced that Michael is alive :D
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she is going off on one again
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she is going off on one again
DancingTheDream you made me laugh with this comment.
You are so funny! :lol:
And now I am forced to log into twitter too. 8-)
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Jacko Shuts Out Closest Aides
Thursday, November 10, 2005 By Roger Friedman
Jacko Fires Closest Confidantes, Shuts Web Site
Michael Jackson's world is one of constant upheaval. But the latest news from Jackson is more disturbing than usual. Sources tell me the disloyal, capricious ex-King of Pop has fired both of his closest confidantes. More headaches: His Web site, http://www.mjjsource.com (http://www.mjjsource.com), which had been run by his brother Randy and former stylist Karen Faye, is gone as well, leaving subscribers and fan club members high and dry.
Now I'm told that Faye has been dismissed along with aide-de-camp/keeper of all secrets, Evvy Tavasci. The loss of Tavasci, more than Faye, is a huge blow to Jackson's equilibrium, even if he doesn't know it. She's been the backstop for all of his kookiness as well as his legal and personal wrangling. In the past couple of years, she'd moved Jackson's MJJ Productions out of rental offices in Los Angeles and into her own home. When Jackson got into trouble with the Arvizo family, it was Tavasci who kept track of them. Her name came up in court last spring dozens of times.
Faye is a different story. She's operated as Jackson's confidante also, and appears with him in the outtakes of Martin Bashir's documentary. Toward the end of the trial last spring, it was rumored that Faye was no longer doing Jackson's makeup because her fee was too high. But she continued to help run the Web site.
Unfortunately, that site is now shut down for the second time this year. There isn't even a page left up to explain what happened. The site was the invention of Michael's brother Randy, who had two assistants. "They're all gone," including Randy, says a source.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175138,00.html
Why did Michael Jackson fire Karen Faye?
Michael Jackson fired Karen Faye, Evvy Tavasci and Randy Jackson's then girlfriend, Tanya Zilkie because Randy and Karen had put together a Michael Jackson fan club membership site without Michael's knowledge in which members were to receive a package of Michael goodies upon ordering a subscription ($49.95 a month). This was going on during Michael's trial and by November, fans began complaining that they never received what they paid for. Michael found out and refunded their money and fired Karen Faye and her assistant Evvy Tavasci along with Randy's girlfriend Tanya who had been running the web site in place of Randy.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Michael_Jackson_fire_Karen_Faye
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And now, ? That new craziness
think ?
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Karen Faye likes drama...there are just some people in this world who need to argue everything. She likes to keep the conflict going by responding to questions.
Ask yourself this....why does she still allow believers on her facebook and her twitter accounts?
#1 so she can keep an eye and ear on what's going on in the hoax world
#2 so she can keep her name associated with MJ (because without him, she's just another makeup tech who'd be forgotten)
#3 it makes her appear more relevant to Michael's legacy than she really is.
Karen Faye may have had a good friendship with Michael for many years, but the fact that she entertains this believer/non believer feud is just proof positive she's trying to hold onto something that is slowly slipping from her grasp....her affiliation with Michael. If you have to constantly convince people of something to be real, then it probably doesn't exist to begin with. :|
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I've never paid attention to KF. She's kooky.
And that "Michael in me" comment... Ha - wishful thinking. :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:
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Jacko Shuts Out Closest Aides
Thursday, November 10, 2005 By Roger Friedman
Jacko Fires Closest Confidantes, Shuts Web Site
Michael Jackson's world is one of constant upheaval. But the latest news from Jackson is more disturbing than usual. Sources tell me the disloyal, capricious ex-King of Pop has fired both of his closest confidantes. More headaches: His Web site, http://www.mjjsource.com (http://www.mjjsource.com), which had been run by his brother Randy and former stylist Karen Faye, is gone as well, leaving subscribers and fan club members high and dry.
Now I'm told that Faye has been dismissed along with aide-de-camp/keeper of all secrets, Evvy Tavasci. The loss of Tavasci, more than Faye, is a huge blow to Jackson's equilibrium, even if he doesn't know it. She's been the backstop for all of his kookiness as well as his legal and personal wrangling. In the past couple of years, she'd moved Jackson's MJJ Productions out of rental offices in Los Angeles and into her own home. When Jackson got into trouble with the Arvizo family, it was Tavasci who kept track of them. Her name came up in court last spring dozens of times.
Faye is a different story. She's operated as Jackson's confidante also, and appears with him in the outtakes of Martin Bashir's documentary. Toward the end of the trial last spring, it was rumored that Faye was no longer doing Jackson's makeup because her fee was too high. But she continued to help run the Web site.
Unfortunately, that site is now shut down for the second time this year. There isn't even a page left up to explain what happened. The site was the invention of Michael's brother Randy, who had two assistants. "They're all gone," including Randy, says a source.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175138,00.html
Why did Michael Jackson fire Karen Faye?
Michael Jackson fired Karen Faye, Evvy Tavasci and Randy Jackson's then girlfriend, Tanya Zilkie because Randy and Karen had put together a Michael Jackson fan club membership site without Michael's knowledge in which members were to receive a package of Michael goodies upon ordering a subscription ($49.95 a month). This was going on during Michael's trial and by November, fans began complaining that they never received what they paid for. Michael found out and refunded their money and fired Karen Faye and her assistant Evvy Tavasci along with Randy's girlfriend Tanya who had been running the web site in place of Randy.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Michael_Jackson_fire_Karen_Faye
:o :o :o :o :o
Ok ...then she is accustomed lying and cheating...
She didn't care about Michael's feelings and opinions about what she was doing... she betrayed him for money! And destroyed that long friendship Michael thought they had
:| :|
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The axis between Karen, Randy and the fan club makes me wonder who is telling the truth.
I cannot log in to twitter since ages! always twitterina is taking over.
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lol
wingheart Hong Kong...Michael was firing me here, for
stealing from fans and forcing me on amusement rides with him. http://twitpic.com/38xrcq (http://twitpic.com/38xrcq)
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But that pic is from the 80s and I understand that the fan fraud was in 2005?
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IMO, Karen was hired as his MAKE-UP ARTIST. NOTHING more. But she was attracted to Michael, so she wanted to be more than that. :roll: And now Michael probably didn't include her on his plan and now she's mad. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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But that pic is from the 80s and I understand that the fan fraud was in 2005?
That's right. Wow. This woman is mad.
I wish someone on twitter would bring this up to her that he must have felt very betrayed and then could no longer trust her even if they were still friends at some point. I've maintained acquaintance or a working relationship with people that I could no longer trust -strictly business. Wonder if she's every thought about how she betrayed his trust??? :evil:
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Karen keeps showing "proofs of frienship" in the form of pics and videos that are obsolete.
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SOL I doubt she thinks about anything but herself. Mind readers probably charge her half price.
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SOL I doubt she thinks about anything but herself. Mind readers probably charge her half price.
:o :lol:
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Karen keeps showing "proofs of frienship" in the form of pics and videos that are obsolete.
#2 so she can keep her name associated with MJ (because without him, she's just another makeup tech who'd be forgotten)
#3 it makes her appear more relevant to Michael's legacy than she really is.
If you have to constantly convince people of something to be real, then it probably didn't exist to begin with. :|
It makes you wonder...between Karen and Arnold, who did Michael the most "damage"? With friends like this, who needed enemies? :evil:
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SOL I doubt she thinks about anything but herself. Mind readers probably charge her half price.
:lol: :lol:
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I am not on twitter so I only read what different people say when it is posted on the forums, but I read on the other hoax forum that Karen refers to her "followers" as MINIONS. If this is true, I think that is awfully rude. So she not only slams believers, but she also belittles people who actually like her. I don't know what is worse, her rudeness and smugness or the people who actually hang on her every word!
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I am not on twitter so I only read what different people say when it is posted on the forums, but I read on the other hoax forum that Karen refers to her "followers" as MINIONS. If this is true, I think that is awfully rude. So she not only slams believers, but she also belittles people who actually like her. I don't know what is worse, her rudeness and smugness or the people who actually hang on her every word!
Agh.,. ignore them.
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Karen Faye's latest statement via Twitter regarding the new album and Sony etc etc
wingheart
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/7j7ufk (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/7j7ufk)
http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)
Karen Faye
On Sunday 19th December 2010, @wingheart said:
Thank you Sandra RT @QuenchMyDesire: Okay. This album...I need to get what's in my head out. This will probably not even be read or heeded by many, but I need to word purge. I need to, or I'll explode.
Having left certain groups on Facebook a while ago that originally sounded great, but turned out to be the complete opposite of what I believe regarding certain issues and people, maybe I shouldn't be surprised that they are celebrating the release of this album. But, well...I am.
I know everyone is different but there is NOTHING to celebrate about this record. It's a product of greed, manipulation, corruption and selfishness, and it's basically just the continuation of the bullshit that was This Is It. Michael is DEAD, that is the ONLY reason this album exists. How can it be something to celebrate? HE is not here anymore so HE did not release this album. This is a Sony album, not a Michael Jackson one, and more than that, it's a slap in the face and an insult both to everything he stood for, as well as to those of us that see this for what it really is.
Michael's legacy does not stand and fall with this album; nor will it stand and fall with any future Sony releases. His legacy was created (and secured) BY HIM, decades ago. DECADES. His songs are timeless, he's Michael Jackson for God's sake. His philanthropy, his human rights work, his donations...they're all there, and they are set in stone. Any posthumous releases of any of "his" works (*cough*JasonMalachi*coughs*) will not change that. In any direction.
He shared his talent with us for forty years. It is naïve, and, to be honest, disrespectful to everything he achieved and gave us during those four decades to think that all of it would just disappear because we don't keep buying whatever is put out there and that has his name on it. HE did not release this album, so refraining from buying it will not hurt HIM.
I may come across as arrogant or as if I am telling people what to think and feel. This is not my intention, but to be honest, this isn't even a matter of "maybe" to me. We don't have to guess how he's feel about Sony getting the hands on these recordings because HE TOLD US! In case anyone forgot:
http://www.mj-777.com/wp-content/upload ... 00x288.jpg (http://www.mj-777.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/SonySucks-300x288.jpg)
I honestly don't understand how people seem to forget the above so easily. Michael was clear BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT how he felt about Sony, yet people are queueing up like lemmings outside the stores to get this album. Why would anyone want to do that when he told us so clearly how he felt?
The general public not knowing - or caring - about the Sony feud is one thing, but the fans? We were supposed to stand by him. He was supposed to be able to trust us.
I'm completely amazed by how so many of the people that I managed to sort of 'open up the eyes of' (regarding TINI and everything around what possibly happened in Michel's last time alive that is so suspicious and contradictive) are now running to the store to get the album, the DVD boxset, AND the game. Hello?? Have people not been listening?! This is exactly the same! This album is a continuation to all the vile, grotesque, corrupt bullshit that "This is it" was about, how can people not see that?? We would never have had this album if Michael was still alive, and he would never, EVER have let them near his art again. He TOLD us that!
This record is a bribe. It was released to keep the general public happy so that they can listen to 'new' songs from Michael Jackson the superstar, while they continue covering up the murder of Michael Jackson the man. In the meantime, his family and friends are still struggling every single day to come to terms with the void that was left in their lives the day he was taken from them. They have to sit there, time after time after time, in the same room as one of the men that murdered their brother, son, friend, or mentor, and they have to wake up to a world without someone whose energy was so vibrant you could feel it physically, but that is now gone. Gone, only to leave a deafening silence in a world that was once filled with his laughter and his tears. So forgive me if I'm having a little bit of a hard time finding a reason to celebrate.
Whatever Sony decides to release in his name in the future will have nothing to do with Michael's legacy, and everything to do with money. Lie for it, spy for it, kill for it...die for it.
He died for it. When will we stop making it worth it for the people that took his life? (from http://tl.gd/7j234c (http://tl.gd/7j234c))
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What surprises me is that Karen talks very bad about Sony and sony does nothing. She and the rest are claiming that SONY are murderers for heavens sake!! That can be punishable by law, it is a defamation.
Sony has not been taking any legal actions as far as I am concerned.
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Good point Gema but a lot of the fans blame Sony/AEG too so Sony can't go after all of them, plus she hasn't named actual individuals, conveniently enough. Once actual names are mentioned then the lawsuits would be flying! ;)
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Good point Gema but a lot of the fans blame Sony/AEG too so Sony can't go after all of them, plus she hasn't named actual individuals, conveniently enough. Once actual names are mentioned then the lawsuits would be flying! ;)
She mentioned Motolla many times :lol:
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:cry: :cry:
I am torn yet again. Though I don't agree that Michael is dead, I do have bad feelings about Sony and what they are trying to do to the fans in Michael's name. The worse thing is that I feel that I in a big way wronged Michael by purchasing this cd when I swore that I would NEVER buy anything that Sony released until I was absolutely sure that they had nothing to do with the conspiracy against Michael. I feel like the disciple who denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed. I betrayed Michael and I am sorry for that :cry: I will never betray him again. I hope he can forgive me.
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Y'all know what i'm gonna say...
Fuck Karen Faye.
She needs to zip her trap and stop talking,no one cares.Go back to telling stories from the 80's when you thought you were in with a chance of being Mrs Jackson.
The coroner have their own make up and people who prepare/dress the body.They would NEVER allow a close personal friend or family 'LaToya' in to do it.This is absolute bullshit.I can't even cope with the fact people believe what she says..
[edit:"I read on the other hoax forum that Karen refers to her "followers" as MINIONS"
does she now...interesting... ]
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min·ion /ˈmɪnyən/ pronounced [min-yuhn]
–noun
1. a servile follower or subordinate of a person in power.
:lol: ...wow....someone thinks highly of themselves!
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Y'all know what i'm gonna say...
Fuck Karen Faye.
I agree. I don't believe anything Karen Faye says, she's a liar.
And I don't think Michael would appreciate her spreading hate and negativity.
I trust much more in people like the Cascios, I think they are true friends and supported him always.
And does Karen Faye think even for one second? If all the fans would boycott the album, the tabloids would write stories like "No one wants to hear him, he's forgotten". :(
I hope many many fans will buy the album. :) Let's show the world that he has millions and millions of fans!
And yes, he had a fight with Sony, but especially with Mottola. Maybe things went better between MJ and Sony after Mottola was fired?
In this interview (at about 1:30), he says, "I didn't say Sony was racist, I said Tommy Mottola is racist!"
[youtube:3ezapxtz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHbXYIAsAE[/youtube:3ezapxtz]
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Y'all know what i'm gonna say...
Fuck Karen Faye.
She needs to zip her trap and stop talking,no one cares.Go back to telling stories from the 80's when you thought you were in with a chance of being Mrs Jackson.
The coroner have their own make up and people who prepare/dress the body.They would NEVER allow a close personal friend or family 'LaToya' in to do it.This is absolute bullshit.I can't even cope with the fact people believe what she says..
[edit:"I read on the other hoax forum that Karen refers to her "followers" as MINIONS"
does she now...interesting... ]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Couldn't have said it better, Sinderella!
@outofmylife: it is curious about MJ's relationship to Sony. are they still wrestling over control or was a compromise of some kind reached? is it possible that MJ outplayed Sony, faked his death and won the war/takeover, but MJ allowed Sony to have a couple of battles that they negotiated a bit. Ultimately MJ wants to be free of Sony forever, but after 6/25/09 MJ agreed to give them this album with some old stuff and songs that he promised the Cascios as recognition of their devotion. but, maybe MJ wouldn't agree to negotiate with all his music and he's holding on to a lot more Sony wanted (Blue Gangsta, Do You Know Where Your Children Are, etc. Anything with Will.i.am and probably countless new ideas) :?: :?: The more I listen to the album the more I love it but I have this feeling that MJ held back due to some sort of negotiation and that MJ will release even greater material when he's completely free of the label but for now, he's fine with his fans buying this album as part of the 'deal'. What do you think?
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I think Karen Faye is respecting Michael's decision.
If Michael faked his death, if the family created a stage, then probably she is supporting them by being on the same stage. Eventually, maybe we should all learn to do so.
After all, she spent some time with Michael Jackson.
Not us.
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I think Karen Faye is respecting Michael's decision.
If Michael faked his death, if the family created a stage, then probably she is supporting them by being on the same stage. Eventually, maybe we should all learn to do so.
After all, she spent some time with Michael Jackson.
Not us.
She is also a liar,a shit stirrer,a jealous wench,and has leaked out photos,info,stories and things that if she was ANY sort of a true friend would have kept private.
Every second/inch/fact of his life is out there to be read about,she could of just kept her mouth shut and fingers off twitter/facebook/myspace and not added to the MJ fact file.
She is a total sell out.Using his image to sell perfume-womens perfume might I add,using stories to increase her 'fame' and credibility.
I have zero respect for the woman,if you can even call her a woman.
Consorting with the psycho stalker fans,creating Ganesha om and calling her 'followers' minions does not strike me as being on Michael's side.
No offense,but just because she put make up on him and spent time with him doesn't make me want to believe what she says.
I stand by my opinion on her.She needs to shut her mouth and respect his privacy.
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She needs to shut her mouth and respect his privacy.
This i agree.
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After all, she spent some time with Michael Jackson.
Not us.
That makes her bad behaviour even worse. I don't understand how someone, who had the privilege to spend time with MJ, can spread so much hate, negativity and lies. Karen Faye obviously learned nothing from Michael. :( I don't trust her at all.
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Ok, this woman is getting on my wick tonight:
On Tuesday 4th January 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to Lladylon)
@Lladylon that is a ridiculous deduction. Of course I support the prosecution. I just have a better understanding of the judicial system and their political posture. I don't think I have "fans". I have made several very good friends that are Michael fans.
Who the F is she to state she has better understanding of the judicial system>??? She is a goddam hairdresser.
What now.. she is a legal expert???? I wish she would shut up.
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On Tuesday 4th January 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to dllzz)
@dllzz it is immature and dangerous to falsely report from the courtroom. We witnessed this behavior by the media during Michael's trial in 2005. I hope the fans do not repeat this behavior. Maybe the ones who maybe doing this were not around back then, and do not understand.
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Ok, this woman is getting on my wick tonight:
On Tuesday 4th January 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to Lladylon)
@Lladylon that is a ridiculous deduction. Of course I support the prosecution. I just have a better understanding of the judicial system and their political posture. I don't think I have "fans". I have made several very good friends that are Michael fans.
Who the F is she to state she has better understanding of the judicial system>??? She is a goddam hairdresser.
What now.. she is a legal expert???? I wish she would shut up.
This just made me lol so much hahahahahaha
I literally can't stand her existence,I know you know this but it makes me feel better to say it as often as possible.
I also blame her for the planets ecological problems due to her hair being so out of control and the amount of products she must use on it.
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Especially after Ortega put her on front street today. Now she is acting like a blubbering idiot. Wonder when she takes the stand.
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After all, she spent some time with Michael Jackson.
Not us.
to be phisically close to someone doesn't put you close to his heart in the way you show them your thoughs and feelings, or trust them in doing so. It's a huge... huge difference. Have you ever heard about "being alone even when people surround you?" . The fact that she was close to him (lately I doubt so much. Maybe more while touring. There's is something strange here about all this "good and close relationship").And even if she was/is as close as she thinks she is, this doesn't make her a person of his trust, which I doubt enormously that she is. I know a saying, that would be like : "keep your enemies close". Maybe it's exagerrated, maybe she can't be categorised as enemy, but as greedy, false and selfish, yes.
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After all, she spent some time with Michael Jackson.
Not us.
to be phisically close to someone doesn't put you close to his heart in the way you show them your thoughs and feelings, or trust them in doing so. It's a huge... huge difference
I want to add even more. There are couples, very well married for years that reach to a point when they can say they don't even know each other anymore, living in the same house. And you say that Karen spent time with Michael and that's how she knows more? She was just a make-up artist. Being physically near someone (for a period) doesn't have anything to do with actually BEING with that person. There are married couples who are like strangers, and there are cases when even after 20 years you can find out that you have no clue about the person you lived with for years.
And to add more, regarding Karen, at her age she acts just like 15 years old girl. No more. I mean for god's sake have some common sense and dignity. It's not even only about dignity here but probably a psichiatric problem. That's my opinion.
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Always in the spot light :roll: but her pics with MJ are outdated :roll:
What about the pic she uploaded with the "girls" Who Michael "adored"? :roll:
I think she is using those girls to make fans angry with each other :lol:
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I spend ten hours a day with my boss and colleagues.
Only a select few i would call friends. Certainly none of them know me intimately well. They dont know my secrets and desires, hopes and dreams.
They are work colleagues. I go to work and be a professional. This is why i have a problem with Karen. She wasnt a friend... she was an employee.
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I spend ten hours a day with my boss and colleagues.
Only a select few i would call friends. Certainly none of them know me intimately well. They dont know my secrets and desires, hopes and dreams.
They are work colleagues. I go to work and be a professional. This is why i have a problem with Karen. She wasnt a friend... she was an employee.
You have a point here.
I may add that Michael surely had his privacy, as any of us, his secrets and selectively he would tell people what he wanted them to know, not the other way around.
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I spend ten hours a day with my boss and colleagues.
Only a select few i would call friends. Certainly none of them know me intimately well. They dont know my secrets and desires, hopes and dreams.
They are work colleagues. I go to work and be a professional. This is why i have a problem with Karen. She wasnt a friend... she was an employee.
I agree. Karen was merely an employee who probably really wanted to be considered a friend (and possibly more) by Michael. Now she just tried to act like she was his best friend. Speaking of best friends though, you don't see Liz or Mac chatting it up with fans on twitter. Why? Because they are real friends. I think Karen just wants to feel important even though she really isn't.
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I spend ten hours a day with my boss and colleagues.
Only a select few i would call friends. Certainly none of them know me intimately well. They dont know my secrets and desires, hopes and dreams.
They are work colleagues. I go to work and be a professional. This is why i have a problem with Karen. She wasnt a friend... she was an employee.
I agree. She was an employee, nothing more. I think she's using the "make-up artist" excuse as a way to convince the fans that she was something more to him, and that he "confided in her" (which we all know is anything but true). You know some fans will turn to anyone even remotely related to MJ, even an "insider", to feel closer to him.
It's rather sickening if she's making this all up.
I recall her sharing a story about the 2005 trials when she used to wash his hair and do his makeup in the morning, and then they'd pray and sob together. If this is a lie, then she definitely loses all credibility ... if there is any left.
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I recall her sharing a story about the 2005 trials when she used to wash his hair and do his makeup in the morning, and then they'd pray and sob together. If this is a lie, then she definitely loses all credibility ... if there is any left.
Pretty pointless her doing his make-up and then MJ sobbing. :?
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I'm sure she was more than just an employee guys, not in the romantic way though. I mean this was the woman that was covering up Michael's blotches before anyone even knew he had vitiligo, which apparently was a very sensitive subject to him. She spent plenty of time with him I'm sure they spoke about more things than "work". Remember them having dinner together in the 90's? I'm sure they had more dinners together than that. I've worked with different people that I've known for less than half the time that KF and Michael knew eachother and some of them have still become some of my closest friends, so one can't really just compare.
I know she's handling herself in a very unsophisticated manor and I know we'd rather think that Michael wouldn't be close to such a person but we can't just ignore the obvious (well we could but I won't) just because we want things to be in a certain way.
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I'm sure she was more than just an employee guys, not in the romantic way though. I mean this was the woman that was covering up Michael's blotches before anyone even knew he had vitiligo, which apparently was a very sensitive subject to him. She spent plenty of time with him I'm sure they spoke about more things than "work". Remember them having dinner together in the 90's?
MJ took her to dinner to make LMP jealous. He used Karen for that purpose. He knew full well the paps would be out and that it would make the tabloids and LMP would see it.
It was probably a mistake by Michael to do that, as it gave Karen false hope. But thats why he did it. Look at the dates when he did that and how it was reported in the news. Totally for LMPs benefit, the whole thing.
Naughty Michael!
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sure thing that if marrying debbie and having two babies didn't make her jealous then being seen with karen would push her to the brink ;)
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sure thing that if marrying debbie and having two babies didn't make her jealous then being seen with karen would push her to the brink ;)
LOL, that was funny. :lol:
Well, being the MJ/LMP chronicler that I am, the dinner with Karen was in 95, I think (right after, or during the filming of They Don't Care About Us). Michael and Lisa had been fighting about her taking off to Hawaii (to visit Jessee???? I wonder now) with Danny in tow.
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I'm sure she was more than just an employee guys, not in the romantic way though. I mean this was the woman that was covering up Michael's blotches before anyone even knew he had vitiligo, which apparently was a very sensitive subject to him. She spent plenty of time with him I'm sure they spoke about more things than "work". Remember them having dinner together in the 90's?
MJ took her to dinner to make LMP jealous. He used Karen for that purpose. He knew full well the paps would be out and that it would make the tabloids and LMP would see it.
It was probably a mistake by Michael to do that, as it gave Karen false hope. But thats why he did it. Look at the dates when he did that and how it was reported in the news. Totally for LMPs benefit, the whole thing.
Naughty Michael!
boys :roll: lol! I still wouldn't dismiss Michael's friendship, or whatever we want to call it, with KF.
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IMO, Karen was only someone who worked for him, and she wanted to be more. Maybe Michael shouldn't have used her like that, because that might have led her on, but I think Karen tried to be closer to Michael, and maybe she liked him or even was in love with him (i don't know) but I think Karen was like obsessed with being more than just his make-up artist.
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IMO, Karen was only someone who worked for him, and she wanted to be more. Maybe Michael shouldn't have used her like that, because that might have led her on, but I think Karen tried to be closer to Michael, and maybe she liked him or even was in love with him (i don't know) but I think Karen was like obsessed with being more than just his make-up artist.
Who can blame her? who wouldn't be fall in love with Michael :?: Thing is, if Mike found her annoying or unprofessional he probably would have gotten rid of her (hey - Tatiana anyone?) but he didn't. To me that says a lot, there must have been some level of trust... (a feeling which seemed rare in Michael's world :( )
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IMO, Karen was only someone who worked for him, and she wanted to be more. Maybe Michael shouldn't have used her like that, because that might have led her on, but I think Karen tried to be closer to Michael, and maybe she liked him or even was in love with him (i don't know) but I think Karen was like obsessed with being more than just his make-up artist.
Who can blame her? who wouldn't be fall in love with Michael :?: Thing is, if Mike found her annoying or unprofessional he probably would have gotten rid of her (hey - Tatiana anyone?) but he didn't. To me that says a lot, there must have been some level of trust... (a feeling which seemed rare in Michael's world :( )
Thank you for speaking from your heart. I agree - who can blame her. I know I can't. Karen may not be the best at winning friends and influencing people but you have to give her a gold star for trying her best. Blessings.
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On Thursday 27th January 2011, @wingheart said:
@PepzMachine I can't honor this line of questioning any longer. It is disrespectful to Michael and his family. I suppose he does this for attention, which you create by pursuing it.
(in reply to a question about Teddy Riley tweeting that Karen doesnt know about the hoax)
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#1 on the virtual slap list
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#1 on the virtual slap list
Watch out Karen, you are going to be testing the prototype !!! :lol: :lol:
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She's going to be testifying at the trial? viewtopic.php?f=253&t=11582&p=300376#p300376 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=11582&p=300376#p300376)
I still think she plays a villian, similar to Conrad Murray.
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She's going to be testifying at the trial? viewtopic.php?f=253&t=11582&p=300376#p300376 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=11582&p=300376#p300376)
I still think she plays a villian, similar to Conrad Murray.
In that case she is a very good actress. She has been quite transparant when giving opinions about fans and hoaxers and I get the impression that she is honest about what she is saying.
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New tweet from Karen, basically chewing out Oprah for having the kids and K on her OWN network, behind the scenes special tonight ( which, interestingly, Jackie promoted in a tweet today).
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And then about the rabbit tweet I know it's a saying but what's with rabbits
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On Friday 28th January 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to neverletyoupart)
@neverletyoupart Oprah's network is getting very low ratings & viewership. I guess she is pulling rabbits out of her hat to boost her OWN name...and the rabbit's name is Michael Jackson.
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New tweet from Karen, basically chewing out Oprah for having the kids and K on her OWN network, behind the scenes special tonight ( which, interestingly, Jackie promoted in a tweet today).
KF chewed Oprah up and spit her out. But Jackie promoting this makes me believe that there has been some sort of forgiving process through this all, either between the Family and Oprah. Or Michael.
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On Wednesday 2nd February 2011, @wingheart said:
Some people keep bringing up that I was reporting on my FB how excited and great rehearsals were. This was true. All was going really well IN THE BEGINNING. Everything went terribly wrong the week before Michael's death. I was being threatened to STAY OF THE INTERNET when I started trying to get my superiors to get help for Michael. They promised me they had hired the best doctor in the world for him...AND THEN HE WAS DEAD!!!!!
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On Wednesday 2nd February 2011, @wingheart said:
Some people keep bringing up that I was reporting on my FB how excited and great rehearsals were. This was true. All was going really well IN THE BEGINNING. Everything went terribly wrong the week before Michael's death. I was being threatened to STAY OF THE INTERNET when I started trying to get my superiors to get help for Michael. They promised me they had hired the best doctor in the world for him...AND THEN HE WAS DEAD!!!!!
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5MrKtWoYxhK6xaSddIMhUbza2IC1nQt0maB_1OylicKO59F_g)
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I thought she said the opposite before.. or am i wrong???
Didnt she say MJ was ill and weak at the beginning... and then the last few days he was great???
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She contradicts herself so many times that I lost track :lol:
I remember reading from her that Michael was frail, not eating and that fans came to "feed him" and talk to him :roll:
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Did Karen ever address whether or not she got paid for her work on TII?
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Did Karen ever address whether or not she got paid for her work on TII?
Yes, i remember this one. She did get paid and she said this on her FB back in the day. She was angry at first because she didnt get paid, but then she shut up once she got her money.
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Did Karen ever address whether or not she got paid for her work on TII?
Yes, i remember this one. She did get paid and she said this on her FB back in the day. She was angry at first because she didnt get paid, but then she shut up once she got her money.
So then, essentially she was paid with 'blood money' since she seems so hell-bent on blaming AEG and Sony for killing Michael. I hope she has enjoyed that blood money. I am all for people getting paid for their services, but if I truly believed that my friend/boss/whatever she wants to consider Michael was killed by our employer, the last thing I would do is accept money from them. She is such a hypocrite! I really wish she would just STFU!
Of course I guess the same thing could be said about Taryll, who I'm assuming was paid by Sony for his contributions to Hollywood Tonight.
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So then, essentially she was paid with 'blood money' since she seems so hell-bent on blaming AEG and Sony for killing Michael. I hope she has enjoyed that blood money
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(http://www.mundoemoti.com/emoticon_adm/mundoemoti_com046.gif) That you think this Gema
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(http://www.mundoemoti.com/emoticon_adm/mundoemoti_com046.gif) That you think this Gema
Totally, and with flies included! :lol:
Ma message to Karen 8-) takes 20 extra lies to build a single one....she is losing track!
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On Wednesday 2nd February 2011, @wingheart said:
It is very unusual that neither MLB or myself...who were closest, (actually TOUCHING) and were demanded and hired directly by MJ, have NOT been questioned by the attorneys in ANY case. APPEARS getting to the truth is not the IMPORTANT issue. Too many big guys with very deep pockets running the "truth about MJ" show.
@Ivy_MJJC I was INTERROGATED by the LAPD, but never anything further. The TRUTH is as I said, I "could" be called as a witness.
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It is strange that she has not been called in as a witness
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It is strange that she has not been called in as a witness
Yes. I do not know how it works in USA, but in the UK she would know by now if she was in the witness list. She wouldnt know the dates, but the court would give out a pre-warning to say that she could get called up between so-and-so dates, so be prepared.
I dont think she is going to get called, by the sounds of it.
Then again, i only can comment on the UK court system and not the USA.
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:lol: So true!
On Wednesday 2nd February 2011, @wingheart said:
Some people keep bringing up that I was reporting on my FB how excited and great rehearsals were. This was true. All was going really well IN THE BEGINNING. Everything went terribly wrong the week before Michael's death. I was being threatened to STAY OF THE INTERNET when I started trying to get my superiors to get help for Michael. They promised me they had hired the best doctor in the world for him...AND THEN HE WAS DEAD!!!!!
So first, before June 25, 2009, she said everything's fine, MJ is brillant, the rehearsels are brillant... After June25, 2009 she says everything was bad, Michael was ill and frail, all others are murderers... And NOW she says, everthing was fine except of the last week before June 25?
That totally contradicts with many others, who say he was brillant and fit especially on June 23 and 24.
She contradicts herselfs the whole time.
She's a liar.
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I have always been intrigued by this Karen Kenny thing. Here we have 2 professionals (supposed) who both profess to have been very friendly with Michael for years and by all accounts they each were at least very involved in his working life. Really more than almost anyone on a consistent basis. We have those who spent a lot of time with Michael in his early days and then his middle days and then the later years. Karen and Kenny were 2 who were around for at least 2 of the 3. Not many in his life can say that. (I am not talking his personal life here) So then, moving along, we have their strange behaviour during TII - She says now that he Michael was great at the beginning although in her letters she states he missed a ton of rehearsals and that he went down hill at the end. She also said he wasn`t that great throughout at other points, needed an oxygen tank back stage. Then she attacks Kenny very viciously on twitter and other places and Kenny pretends he doesn`t know even though we know he does beacause the tweets were sent to him. She said things like `kenny was all happy and parading around promoting TII while Prince Jackson celebrates his first birthday without a father`OMG that is serious and if were Kenny I would do something to make that behaviour stop but he hasn`t and it has just continued to spew out of her. I have to wonder is Kenny the evil monster that Karen is protraying and if he is then wow I was really off the mark by thinking he was an alright guy....or is Karen playing a part and Kenny knows this and he is letting go on. I do have to think it`s the latter because he says....Michael was missing rehearsals, then he had one off day and then he had the best last 2 days and was back on his game - the exact opposite of Karen other than the missed rehearsals. Then in the middle of all of this we have Cherilyn Lee saying that the last weekend of MJ`s life - just before the great days Kenny said he had and the bad days Karen says he had, she says he had someone call and say that something was terribly wrong, he was cold on one side and hot on the other and she told him to go straight to the hospital. Then we have Conrad Murray giving him propofol for 2 months to sleep every night and we are told propofol wouldn`t have given him a restful sleep so michael would be a walking zombie after 2 months. If this wasn`t such a serious matter it would be insanely and hysterically just plain nuts!!!
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I think just plain nuts is an excellent description!
It seems like in the dirty world of music/ show business they will drop their so called friends on a dime...IE Karen/Kenny.
About that oxygen tank at rehearsals or anywhere for that matter. I do not find that unusual ...Michael had chronically inflamed lungs according the autopsy report and due to the fact that he had Lupus it could have easily messed with
his lungs....so sad.
In the book Micheal Wrote ...the first one Moonwalker? Sorry I cannot recall the correct title right now...he himself tells about when he was walking along the beach and his lung collapsed and he could not breathe and he ran to Jermaine's house who took him to the hospital...so those issues started long ago...in his early 20's.
We are just lucky he managed to be healthy enough to give us all the gifts he did.
IMO that is one of the reasons he went Vegi'n and tried to take good care of his health...when you have a purpose ..that is a strong thing...and he had a love and a purpose.
Somewhere else [you all have probably heard this too] he stated that he felt like an old man....I can understand where he was coming from.
When you think of all of the adversities he went through in order to keep doing what he loved it is just shocking.
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I don't think Karen is involved in the hoax at all.
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I don't see Karen in the hoax either, yeah, she was very close to MJ,after all she has worked with MJ since the Thriller era up to 2009, but i support the thory about a very few people aware of the hoax , the closest ones, IMO we can even count on one hand those who are envolved in it.
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Then she should get good awards for acting if she is so convincing. I'm one that believes she's leader of the opposition, instigating the majority of fans to believe he's dead and to cry for justice. Just think if all the fans thought it was a hoax, how flat the whole trial would be. She's playing an important role. The fact Kenny doesn't respond to her horrible remarks tells a lot. OK so she's a little crazy, I think MJ has planned this hoax to use the natural personalities of the people in it.
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Then she should get good awards for acting if she is so convincing. I'm one that believes she's leader of the opposition, instigating the majority of fans to believe he's dead and to cry for justice. Just think if all the fans thought it was a hoax, how flat the whole trial would be. She's playing an important role. The fact Kenny doesn't respond to her horrible remarks tells a lot. OK so she's a little crazy, I think MJ has planned this hoax to use the natural personalities of the people in it.
Oh, after all of this is over there should be a new Oscar category introduced: HOAXSCAR :lol:
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She doesn't really know what she means. Take at look at these tweets:
On Wednesday 2nd February 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to MJ4EVER44)
@MJ4EVER44 I can not speculate on what Michael's feelings would be. He is gone from us forever, and he can not tell us. His word is the only word I would trust, and he's dead.
wingheart Karen Faye
@hermanc3 I feel the same way as Michael did...20 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
That last tweet was recent (feb 2/11)
So in a span of 24 hours she is contradicting herself. I am beginning to wonder why Michael would even befriend her for so long. She is either playing a good role or she is completely off her rocker and needs psychiatric help.
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shelby61 wrote:
She doesn't really know what she means. Take at look at these tweets:
On Wednesday 2nd February 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to MJ4EVER44)
@MJ4EVER44 I can not speculate on what Michael's feelings would be. He is gone from us forever, and he can not tell us. His word is the only word I would trust, and he's dead.
wingheart Karen Faye
@hermanc3 I feel the same way as Michael did...20 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
That last tweet was recent (feb 2/11)
So in a span of 24 hours she is contradicting herself. I am beginning to wonder why Michael would even befriend her for so long. She is either playing a good role or she is completely off her rocker and needs psychiatric help.
I do not think of this woman, to lie makes a very good memory, a liar contradicts constantly
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I think Karen just likes the attention and tends to feed off or it. She isn't the only person who worked with/for Michael off and on throughout his career, yet she seems to be the only one chatting with fans on a routine basis, and has been doing it from the beginning. Why? I say it's for attention. I also think she may be in love with Michael and is having a hard time letting him go, hence her consistent discussions about him with total strangers on social networking sites.
I certainly don't think Michael would have trusted her with the hoax. She's too much of a loose cannon, and her behavior in 2005 with Randy and the fan bracelets, or whatever it was, is reason enough for Michael to have questioned her loyalty and trustworthiness and thus her "hoax-worthiness". Now she could be playing a role, but unknowingly. Maybe Michael predicted she would carry on like she has.
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(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5MrKtWoYxhK6xaSddIMhUbza2IC1nQt0maB_1OylicKO59F_g)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
Pretty sure he'd want to be on neither tbh Karen.
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
Pretty sure he'd want to be on neither tbh Karen.
LOL :lol:
Can't believe she actually wrote that, like a simple fan or something... :?
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On Friday 4th February 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to Kampanilla83)
@Kampanilla83 Our accommodations and airplane tickets were given to us in June for London. Several shows were cancelled to give us more time to rehearse.
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On Friday 4th February 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to Kampanilla83)
@Kampanilla83 Our accommodations and airplane tickets were given to us in June for London. Several shows were cancelled to give us more time to rehearse.
Who is 'us'?
She isn't a dancer/performer/musician......She really does put herself up there doesn't she,as someone of utter most importance and vital to the show being a success.
It's all Michael...not Michael ft Karen Faye and her hair brush skills
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Pretty sure he'd want to be on neither tbh Karen.
:lol: :lol:
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
Pretty sure he'd want to be on neither tbh Karen.
LOL! I :lol: :lol:
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
Wow! That's a real professional thing to say about your boss - NOT! She seriously acts like a swooning fan!
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On Friday 4th February 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to Kampanilla83)
@Kampanilla83 Our accommodations and airplane tickets were given to us in June for London. Several shows were cancelled to give us more time to rehearse.
Who is 'us'?
She isn't a dancer/performer/musician......She really does put herself up there doesn't she,as someone of utter most importance and vital to the show being a success.
It's all Michael...not Michael ft Karen Faye and her hair brush skills
Didn't you get the memo? The hierarchy goes Karen, then Michael, then everyone else (or should I say MINIONS!). LOL! Next thing you know, she is going to claim that she was Michael's Manager!
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
Wow! That's a real professional thing to say about your boss - NOT! She seriously acts like a swooning fan!
Wierd, isnt it? Wierd thing to say about your boss and a wierd thing to say about a friend. Just wierd!
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On Friday 4th February 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to Kampanilla83)
@Kampanilla83 Our accommodations and airplane tickets were given to us in June for London. Several shows were cancelled to give us more time to rehearse.
Who is 'us'?
She isn't a dancer/performer/musician......She really does put herself up there doesn't she,as someone of utter most importance and vital to the show being a success.
It's all Michael...not Michael ft Karen Faye and her hair brush skills
Didn't you get the memo? The hierarchy goes Karen, then Michael, then everyone else (or should I say MINIONS!). LOL! Next thing you know, she is going to claim that she was Michael's Manager!
No,sadly it must have gone to my junk folder,which is where it belongs,and then to be shredded LOL
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Karen is just... (http://www.forumsextreme.com/images/sSic_vomit.gif)
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Karen is a bitch. :evil: :twisted:
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Karen is a bitch. :evil: :twisted:
Now, now, let's not start calling people names ;) Yes, she frustrates us but we still don't know her.
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wingheart
@dllzz Oh you obviously are not from LA....I LOVE those shoes. I dislike T-shirts. I'd rather have MJ on my toes than my t*ts....HeeHee
Pretty sure he'd want to be on neither tbh Karen.
Lol...but I highly doubt she wouldnt want the tshirt.
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I dont want to sound mean, but why does Karen Faye only speak of Michael on her Twitter. I understand that's all she's really got going for her. I mean when you think Karen Faye, you automatically think "Michael's Hair & Makeup" ...or a few other choice words, lol.
But you'd think if she were so up close and personal with him, she wouldn't speak so much about his death. Most of his other friends and family usually dodge the question, or answer quickly and change the subject. But she seems happy to go about the fans and explain all the details about the death, what she knew, what she didn't. If she were so close, why keep talking about it? You'd think it would hurt after a while... doesn't seem to bother her. AT ALL.
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I dont want to sound mean, but why does Karen Faye only speak of Michael on her Twitter.
I don't want to sound mean, too - but I think she knows that nobody would be interested in her at all if she would talk about something else. The only reason so many people read her tweets is because of her 'relationship' with Michael (and I think they were not so close - she was his make up artist, not his closest friend).
It makes me angry to see how she lies and twists stories just to get attention.
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I dont want to sound mean, but why does Karen Faye only speak of Michael on her Twitter.
I don't want to sound mean, too - but I think she knows that nobody would be interested in her at all if she would talk about something else. The only reason so many people read her tweets is because of her 'relationship' with Michael (and I think they were not so close - she was his make up artist, not his closest friend).
It makes me angry to see how she lies and twists stories just to get attention.
I think the sole reason that she talks about Michael so much is simply for the attention.
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Well yes,if she didn't chat shit about Michael,and have his fans following her,and a few acting like her 'minions' then she would only have herself to talk to and possibly a few cans of hairspray listening.
If she even attempts to write a book....
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she would only have herself to talk to and possibly a few cans of hairspray listening.
LOL!!!! :lol: :lol: Sinderella, that made my day.
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On Monday 21st February 2011, @wingheart said:
Someone within the prosecution team is obviously working very hard for Murray's defense strategy that MJ killed himself. Releasing testimony to the tabloids and allowing it to be twisted should give everyone a clue to how this trial will go. Please open your eyes everyone.
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hmmmmm
What testimony...that was a prelim?
I haven't read any testimony anywhere...have any of you?
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hmmmmm
What testimony...that was a prelim?
I haven't read any testimony anywhere...have any of you?
She means her testimony she gave to the LAPD which was leaked to TMZ>
(you know, the one about MJ fearing he would have to work at McDonalds)
But read what she says again. Someone in the PROSECUTION team is leaking info to help the DEFENCE!!
:shock:
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She means her testimony she gave to the LAPD which was leaked to TMZ>
(you know, the one about MJ fearing he would have to work at McDonalds)
But read what she says again. Someone in the PROSECUTION team is leaking info to help the DEFENCE!!
Would that be her speaking with a forked tongue?
Heck I thought the comment about MJ saying he feared he would have to work at McDonald's was hilarious.
If he actually did say that....he was being sarcastic...IMO.
After all the guy had/has a sense of humor...if he didn't he would not have been around for as long as he is....or was.
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I dont really know what you mean... her speaking with a forked tongue. ???
She is accusing the prosecution of working for the defence.
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i haven't really give karen much attention. can anyone tell me , what she actually if anything has had to say about murry? i hear it about her ragging on ko and aeg but not what she has had to say about him specificly.
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I dont really know what you mean... her speaking with a forked tongue. ???
LYING.
:mrgreen:
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I dont really know what you mean... her speaking with a forked tongue. ???
LYING.
:mrgreen:
She could be lying. It is a possibility that she sold the story to TMZ herself.
Guess we will never know... :?
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Karen and her 'minions'-How it really is...
(http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e269e20115706fcaf6970b-800wi)
my little ponions
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OMG Sinderella, you scared me to death!
I thought the master in your scene was an ugly white rabbit (the cat's ears being the closed eyes of a buck) and I was wondering about it's strange nose and was searching for the ears of that teacherlike serious overpeering the ponions "something" ....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I thought I had lost it...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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LOL!!
No babe,it is most definitley a kitty cat although I can see where you were coming from with the white rabbit idea
I love that picture,it's so serious and hysterical at the same time.
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Karen and her 'minions'-How it really is...
(http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e269e20115706fcaf6970b-800wi)
my little ponions
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Karen and her 'minions'-How it really is...
(http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e269e20115706fcaf6970b-800wi)
my little ponions
Haaaaaaa hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/a99fpt
Karen Faye
On Thursday 5th May 2011
@wingheart said:
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans. RT @bittyprettyone: @jermjackson5 @wingheart Hi not one believer i know of has ever said that Michael would deliberatley hurt his family, kids or fans with a
I hate her,no words.
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/a99fpt
Karen Faye
On Thursday 5th May 2011
@wingheart said:
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans. RT @bittyprettyone: @jermjackson5 @wingheart Hi not one believer i know of has ever said that Michael would deliberatley hurt his family, kids or fans with a
I hate her,no words.
Karen, Karen .... please say no more. crash/
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Aaahh if necessary to believe in everything she says,.... yes they "make up " to Michael after "died " :? ,... your family and your children know that he is alive :roll:
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Karen Faye=Spawn of the bullshit monster
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WHAT IS ODD WITH KF, THAT SHE HAS BEEN FIGHTING AND DISRESPECTING FANS/BELIEVERS FOR LONG TIME, ESP. LAST 2 DAYS, BUT SHE NEVER REPEATS & INSISTS IN PUBPLIC TWEETER THAT MICHAEL IS DEAD & THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT BECAUSE SHE PUT LAST MAKE UP ON HIM. BUT SHE DOES NOT DO THAT. ONE OF HER YESTERDAY TWEET WAS " EVEN IF MICHAEL FAKE IT, YOU WOULD KNOW SHIT." WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? SHE EVENTUALLY GOT CONVINCED & NOT DENYING THAT MJ MIGHT BE ALIVE SHE JUST PISSED THAT WE COULD INVESTIGATE AND FIGURE THAT OUT OR WHAT?............
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ONE OF HER YESTERDAY TWEET WAS " EVEN IF MICHAEL FAKE IT, YOU WOULD KNOW SHIT."
So we know shit. But he is alive. Thank you , Karen :lol: :lol:
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Because she is tweeting that much bullshit at such a rapid speed she is forgetting what she has said 3hours ago and flips her story depending on which bunch of fans are attacking her.You have to have a good memory to be a great liar...she has not and is not.
She has-and I have NO doubt in my mind been to this forum before-lets not forget the user who commented on the thread 'chapie' did about Michael not wanting to be black,lots of people believed it was karen.
I hope she comes back and see's my love for her
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the more I hear about her foul tweets and racist rants, the more I’m inclined to believe like a lot of other people who surrounded Michael of late, that she is just plain trash. beerchug
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the more I hear about her foul tweets and racist rants, the more I’m inclined to believe like a lot of other people who surrounded Michael of late, that she is just plain trash. beerchug
WORD!!
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Because she is tweeting that much bullshit at such a rapid speed she is forgetting what she has said 3hours ago and flips her story depending on which bunch of fans are attacking her.You have to have a good memory to be a great liar...she has not and is not.
She has-and I have NO doubt in my mind been to this forum before-lets not forget the user who commented on the thread 'chapie' did about Michael not wanting to be black,lots of people believed it was karen.
I hope she comes back and see's my love for her
Karen was here?
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Apparently,people thought it was,she either got banned or left pretty quickly but she caused a war whoever it was so it probably was her LOL
causing trouble is kinda what she is into nowadays
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I am reposting this:
Off topic since not only Jermaine but also KF is heating the soup in this thread for the time being.
Cuidado, meus amigos.
This is not about monkeys but about flying monkeys. That's different.
And it's not about a tweet but about a picture with a full moon, thus a moon that is completely divided.
Now considering the fan base in its actual emotional status, is that true or not?
As seen from Earth, the hemisphere of the Moon that is facing the earth (the near side) is almost fully illuminated by the Sun and appears round. Only during a full moon is the opposite hemisphere of the Moon, which is not visible from Earth (the far side), completely unilluminated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon)
Coming back to twitter, there is this picture (not a tweet) that allegedly was sent by Karen Faye to another twitter user who allegedly happens to be from Brazil.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=12874)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=12876)
We have discussed the Flying or Winged Monkeys before.
Winged monkeys (often referred to in adaptations and popular culture as flying monkeys) are characters from The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, of enough impact between the books and the 1939 movie to have taken their own place in popular culture, regularly referenced in comedic or ironic situations as a source of evil or fear.
In the original Oz novels, the Winged Monkeys were once a free people, living in the forests of Oz.
Quelala and a sorceress named Gayelette punished the Winged Monkeys by making them the slaves to the Golden Cap.
Eventually the cap fell into the hands of the Wicked Witch of the West, who used the Winged Monkeys to conquer the Winkie Country, defeat the Great Oz, and capture Dorothy and the Cowardly Lion, destroying the Scarecrow and Tin Woodman in the process. Dorothy finally gave the cap to Glinda, who ordered the monkeys to carry Dorothy's companions back to their homes in Oz, and then to cease to bother people.
In the classic 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, the Winged Monkeys kidnap Dorothy and dismantle the Scarecrow, but do nothing to the Tin Man or the Cowardly Lion, leaving them free to put the Scarecrow back together and rescue Dorothy. Glinda ordered the monkeys to carry Dorothy's companions back to their homes in Oz, and then to cease to bother people, and then gave them the cap as their own, to free them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_monkeys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_monkeys)
Why shouldn't Brazil play a role in this hoax?
Karen is executing a role since day 1.
I don't even read her because it's always the same and I don't expect anybody in this circle to tell the truth.
Coming back to the beauties of life, this is a brazilian tribute to Michael that is just charming:
[youtube:3uw65j3g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_DLEysEqSM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3uw65j3g]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_DLEysEqSM&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_DLEysEqSM&feature=player_embedded)
Keep the faith.
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On Friday 6th May 2011, @wingheart said:
@kouliomj Your comments are beyond disgusting, disrespectful and ignorant. But here you go. I have worked with the celebrity dead before. Many Hollywood makeup artists are called upon to work with their clients, even to the end. No one knows better, what their friend wants to look like. A dead body is cold and yellowish white, (and usually has deep blue-black bruising)when drained of all it's fluids and has sink holes all over which needs to be filled in with morticians wax or injected with a silicone type solution.
That is a body in good condition. You must seal all the prep work before you start the makeup. Regular makeup does not adhere to frigid skin. With the present technology in makeup, alcohol based airbrush make up works best and can put all the color back into the skin. Hair must be cleaned & styled. Have YOU ever seen a body of someone you loved, after going through 2 autopsies!!!!! It is a long and heartbreaking experience. Hopefully none of you will be called upon to do it. I hope you're proud of yourself for being so RUDE and crude. (from http://tl.gd/a9vdvv (http://tl.gd/a9vdvv)) RT @kouliomj: @wingheart many things make you laugh I can see.!!
me what makes me laugh is that you pretend to have practiced mortuary makeup.!
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Karen Faye
On Friday 6th May 2011, @wingheart said:
Perhaps your English is poor. If you read my tweet correctly, I speak about bodies in GENERAL. I did not reveal ANY PERSONAL DETAILS. Only that Michael had undergone 2 autopsies, which has been widely publicized. Please send your criticisms where they belong...directed to your fellow pals who post such rude and insensitive tweets. RT @Speechless__MJ: koulio @wingheart you probably think you respect the family jackson when u give so much detail about the appearance of the body of Michael
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Karen is a liar,always has been.There was no way she did any make up on any body.
She wasn't even close to him anymore.
She actually makes my blood boil
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Sinders, you're worrying me - I keep bumping into your posts tonight, and you're letting KF get to you - big time! Why do you follow her so avidly if she annoys you so much? If I could find a smilie that looked like 'chilling', I'd post it for you! Guess a cool moonwalk might do the trick! moonwalk_/
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Sinders, you're worrying me - I keep bumping into your posts tonight, and you're letting KF get to you - big time! Why do you follow her so avidly if she annoys you so much? If I could find a smilie that looked like 'chilling', I'd post it for you! Guess a cool moonwalk might do the trick! moonwalk_/
I was beginning to wonder about this too. I don't know much about KF and everything she has or has not done. Sinders has me curious enough to go back and read this thread in its entirety (when I have time).
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Karen is a liar,always has been.There was no way she did any make up on any body.
I agree with you.
And Karen's description of doing make up on dead bodies doesn't sound to me as if she really knew what she's talking about. It sounds to me as if she had to google it.
I don't believe her one word.
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I am just not sure if an untrained person in that field would be allowed prepare a body if it has been through 2 autopsies i would have thought you would need very special training as it is just to traumatic for a person who knows the deceased personally but I but i dont know that for a fact
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Sinders, you're worrying me - I keep bumping into your posts tonight, and you're letting KF get to you - big time! Why do you follow her so avidly if she annoys you so much? If I could find a smilie that looked like 'chilling', I'd post it for you! Guess a cool moonwalk might do the trick! moonwalk_/
Worrying you?I think that is a little over the top but thanks for the concern.I'm fine,I just don't like the woman in any shape or form.
I do not follow her 'avidly' I find that quite an offensive thing to say,she is spread across my twitter in every other post,RT,mention and has been for 3days SOLID.If you had noticed,I haven't been here very much the past 2months as I've been busy working and I really don't bother myself with what Karen is doing or saying but atm she is rife,like a virus and I have the right to voice my opinion on it and her.
It it no secret I don't like her.I have never liked her.Look back at posts from 2010...they are in exactly the same tone.
She is no better now than she was then.Giving out to fans like she has some given right and using Michael's name as an indication to start tweeting about herself and her relationship to him,to his fans who only follow her to gain an insight to him.
I don't need a chill smilie,I am perfectly fine,why I face such protest when I voice my opinion I will never know...especially since this is a forum for that purpose and everyone else does so day after day and has done for 2years.
Sorry if that sounds dramatic and harsh for the comment you left me but I really am getting bored of it all.
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I don't need a chill smilie,I am perfectly fine,why I face such protest when I voice my opinion I will never know...especially since this is a forum for that purpose and everyone else does so day after day and has done for 2years.
Sorry if that sounds dramatic and harsh for the comment you left me but I really am getting bored of it all.
Opinions are fine. Spewing hate and venom is not. That's MY opinion.
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I was beginning to wonder about this too. I don't know much about KF and everything she has or has not done. Sinders has me curious enough to go back and read this thread in its entirety (when I have time).
You should do,it isn't a pleasant read but you will find out what kind of person she is.
ANY kind of REAL friend would keep quiet about thier private memories/times/relationship/secets shared with Michael before any of this happened...but no,not Karen,as soon as she gets the chance,she's there spamming people with BS about her love for him,things about him she shouldn't share and how she did the after care on his body because they were soooo close (when in reality she is a liar and was fired way back for stealing money from his website via fans) and so on and so on and then...interjects herself into a situation like now with Jermaine's tweets which she has no authority to do-she is not a Jackson,she is not his ex gf/wife/widow/she is not an employee anymore,and she is not his friend and talks to his fans like something on the bottom of her shoe.
She gave her story to TMZ I don't care how much she denies it,she did,she cleary was pissed at being left out of the prelim and off the witness list for the trial-because obviously she was/is so important in Michael's life she should have been included-and decided to gain her own attention by getting her name on the TMZ website via a whole story about her...and it worked,there was a whole day of KF related talk/tweets.
Has she been spotted at FL since 2009 visiting/laying flowers?
Has she attended ANY event where vindication for Michael's name has occured ie like the school name being uncovered again?or the dot project-she doesn't have a dot btw...
Has she done ANYTHING to help gain an ounce of justice for him,his family or his children?
Has she done anything at all to make her worthy of being called his friend since-way back in 2005
Has she offered any support to Michael's children?
Put any time into anything that gains a positive light on his name,legacy,life?
nope.
She has though,associated with his stalkers,she did set up ganesha OM-some weird society-she did go to TMZ -she has lied about doing the makeup on the body and dressing it because it has now been proven she has no qualification or skill to do such a thing-she does talk to his fans like absolute shit and has now been labelled a racist-nice work Karen-she does not carry his messages of love and respect-she does use his name and her past association with him in a professional capacity to her advantage either for fame,attention,fans,followers,MINIONS-yep....she calls them minions indicating she believes she is somewhere above everyone else because the definition of a minion is somewhere between a slave and a servant and someone who has a master and is there at their beck and call
Minion
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A minion is a follower devoted to serving his master relentlessly.
and I do believe she believes in her own head she has the right to talk and behave like some sort of mourning ex wife or widow.
This is only a short list of what she does and does not do in the name of being Karen Faye and knowing Michael Jackson.I am disgusted in her,I can only imagine how he would feel seeing how she is talking to and dividing up his fans which he deems as his family and loves dearly.
In my opinion,she is nothing to anyone in this saga.She is not family or friend.
I think only Jermaine follows her out of the entire family,but they let her 'work' on their son/brother/father/uncle??
That to me does not add up-preparing a body is a huge task to be given and then none of the family have talked to her since?Not very polite is it...or,it is,because they have no reason to talk to her because she never worked on any body.
My anger and hatred towards her is not unjust and I truly do detest the woman and have no apologies for it.
She may have been there for him at one time long ago,but since she was fired and really lost that relationship she had with Michael and then this happened in 2009,it appears to me,that she is craving attention and the only way to do that is to use Michael's name,and his fans/supporters.
Thought i'd explain in a more formal,less aggressive format.
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It´s ok Sind, obviously you have your reasons for your opinion.
You made me curious, I´ll start researching and get my own opinion. I already read some tweets, they weren´t very nice...
Did you ever meet her personally? Did anybody?
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so what are the details , if anyone knows when was the last kf did work with and for michael prior to tii? we know it was as late as that bashir thing. how much later?
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She was featured at the end of TII and listed in the credits.
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Karen Faye
On Monday 9th May 2011, @wingheart said:
Funny you said that, but yes, he had such a beautiful smile, it lit up the universe. And you know what he always wanted of mine? My nose :) RT @bjhickman7: @wingheart Like Michael's smile? :-(
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She was featured at the end of TII and listed in the credits.
So she was with Michael still in TII? She was not fired in 2005?
I do not know why the fans believers give ibope to this woman.
This is for you, KF:
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Sorry, but what the hell!
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Karen Faye
On Monday 9th May 2011, @wingheart said:
Funny you said that, but yes, he had such a beautiful smile, it lit up the universe. And you know what he always wanted of mine? My nose :) RT @bjhickman7: @wingheart Like Michael's smile? :-(
Karen is such a bitch! Is it really necessary for her to point out Michael's insecurities with his nose? Or is she just too stupid to realize that his insecurities are the reason he liked her nose and disliked his own?
On another note, I think most everyone knows (thanks to Karen's constant ramblings) that she was involved in TII, but like another poster, I wonder if Michael used her for any other events between the Bashir interview and TII. And if not, I wonder why.
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It seems that to do the work of make up people who have died to have license and preparation, anyone knows anything more than this :?:
Meet with family, funeral director, and medical doctor to discuss needs of the deceased
Drain vital fluids from body
Preserve body by injecting germicidal solutions
Perform necessary restorative work to improve appearance (makeup and hair)
Dress deceased persons and place them in caskets
Maintain records and equipment
Supervise assistants
The typical day for an embalmer involves working closely with one or more bodies, readying them for burial. They must also order supplies, clean and repair equipment, and meet with other funeral home staff and family members to discuss plans and requests. They spend most of each day at work indoors, and don't have many opportunities for travel.
Embalmers can become funeral directors, makeup artists or cosmetologists. They can become counselors, and assist people in their grieving and bereavement process.
http://www.schoolsintheusa.com/careerpr ... carid=1457 (http://www.schoolsintheusa.com/careerprofiles_details.cfm?carid=1457)
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On Monday 9th May 2011, @wingheart said:
I would very much like to get away from this line of questioning. RT @JoanneDoreen: @wingheart Did you have specialist training to do mortician make up and how did you obtain the specialist make up?
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On Monday 9th May 2011, @wingheart said:
I have said enough. I have told the truth. I have no obligation to fans to answer questions to verify their own fabrications. RT @JoanneDoreen: @wingheart i guess if you answer it, then people will stop wondering about the hows and whys of it all.
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She was featured at the end of TII and listed in the credits.
So she was with Michael still in TII? She was not fired in 2005?
I do not know why the fans believers give hope to this woman.
Sorry, but what the hell!
She was 'hired in' for it I don't think it was by Michael though-look into that one,she WAS fired and barely spoke to him until TII.She has said this herself many times when speaking about getting sacked and how broken her heart was not having contact with him . #vomit
She was hired to do make up and that's it,but she talks like she was drafted in because she is the only one who could do anything and that without her,rehearsals wouldn't have been possible
YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN
and I seriously doubt he wanted her nose or ANY part of her..infact we all know he never....ha,gutted Karen.
On Monday 9th May 2011, @wingheart said:
I would very much like to get away from this line of questioning. RT @JoanneDoreen: @wingheart Did you have specialist training to do mortician make up and how did you obtain the specialist make up?
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On Monday 9th May 2011, @wingheart said:
I have said enough. I have told the truth. I have no obligation to fans to answer questions to verify their own fabrications. RT @JoanneDoreen: @wingheart i guess if you answer it, then people will stop wondering about the hows and whys of it all.
She can't answer it because she knows she is a liar and has been found out.
I have a friend lets call her 'abbey' who wants to do all that,work on the bodies,do the makeup and prep them for their funerals,she is already a make up artist....to do what she wants to do though she has had to go back to university in the UK to do a degree in it!Nowhere will hire her without it,you need to be a specialist in corpse prep.
So I KNOW she is a liar.
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What i detest about this winch after having read a lot of her posts, is that she sees herself as priviledged and better than Michael’s “fans” because she worked close to him, blah, blah, blah. She can feel whatever she wants to. That’s her perrogative. However, for her to spew venom with forced authority about who is doing this or who is doing that to Michael and his family because she “KNOWS” he would NEVER do certain things, and then calls us NAMES :roll: :roll: infuriates the hell out of me. Who does she think she is? She is NOBODY to most everybody. She doesn’t get it. Michael has told the world a million times over, HE LOVES THE FANS. WE are the reason that he works his body relentlessly. US and the CHILDREN. Not her dumb ass. She thinks she is all that because she WAS EMPLOYED by Michael. If she doesn’t know what employee means she needs to consult a dictionary. I am sure that Michael respected her and considered her a friend, because that’s who he is. But for crying out loud, know your damn place. Judging Michael’s fans is NOT IT regardless of what we believe. She’s a glorified hairdresser/makeup artist. Albeit that she was lucky enough and in the right place at the right time to snag the greatest employerr known to man. But the bottom line is still that she was an employee. She’s stepping out of line. I’m trying to hold my peace on twtter, but she’s pushing the envelope because when she lumps everybody who believes as delusional and stupid and a lot of other names, she’s stepping into my territory and I kinda take it personally :roll: She is not family. She ain’t and never will be. I need a Jason from Halloween yype smilie for this one. Would definitely relay my state of mind. Okay. I can breathe now.
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Re: Karen Faye - @wingheart
Postby hesouttamylife » Mon May 09, 2011 3:06 pm
What i detest about this winch after having read a lot of her posts, is that she sees herself as priviledged and better than Michael’s “fans” because she worked close to him, blah, blah, blah. She can feel whatever she wants to. That’s her perrogative. However, for her to spew venom with forced authority about who is doing this or who is doing that to Michael and his family because she “KNOWS” he would NEVER do certain things, and then calls us NAMES :roll: :roll: infuriates the hell out of me. Who does she think she is? She is NOBODY to most everybody. She doesn’t get it. Michael has told the world a million times over, HE LOVES THE FANS. WE are the reason that he works his body relentlessly. US and the CHILDREN. Not her dumb ass. She thinks she is all that because she WAS EMPLOYED by Michael. If she doesn’t know what employee means she needs to consult a dictionary. I am sure that Michael respected her and considered her a friend, because that’s who he is. But for crying out loud, know your damn place. Judging Michael’s fans is NOT IT regardless of what we believe. She’s a glorified hairdresser/makeup artist. Albeit that she was lucky enough and in the right place at the right time to snag the greatest employerr known to man. But the bottom line is still that she was an employee. She’s stepping out of line. I’m trying to hold my peace on twtter, but she’s pushing the envelope because when she lumps everybody who believes as delusional and stupid and a lot of other names, she’s stepping into my territory and I kinda take it personally :roll: She is not family. She ain’t and never will be. I need a Jason from Halloween yype smilie for this one. Would definitely relay my state of mind. Okay. I can breathe now.
EXACTLY.
You are also on the anti KF board. haha
No seriously though this is exactly what I've been saying...she WAS an employee is no longer,hasn't been for years,he might have loved her as a friend but he didn't LOVE her like he wanted to marry her-if he did he would have im sure,she is NOT a Jackson.
Everything I said in my post still stands-why do none of them follow her apart from Jermaine?If she worked on Michael's 'body' surely she would be considered close enough to follow on twitter after it?NOPE.
Apart from the fact no other Jackson has addressed the hoax/backed Jermaine up in ANY way,I find it annoying she feels like it is her duty or right because she worked for him for the time she did to treat his fans so badly and talk down to them in such a disgusting way..
She comes across as a scorned widow or something,honestly that is the vibe I get from her tweets.
I too have refrained from attacking her-I honestly have,I've sent tweets directed to her and they've been RTd to her haha but not @ her directly because she will just block me,she blocks anyone who spouts the truth at her and when she has no answer for you because she knows you are right-and stops you in your tracks.My tweet would be a twitlonger and would not be a pleasant read....
When is the last time she saw Michael's children...or mom...or any Jackson infact?
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uhh ok karen was fired and rehired, john branca was fired and rehired . any idea if they were both fired around the same time?so it sounds and looks like he didn't use karen for what a 4 yr. period right. she was around for the trial or not ? we know michael bush was unless he lied about the suit for court.this rehiring thing is curious to me.
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I’m trying to follow the old addage “let your haters be your motivaters”. She only moves me to believe more in what she negates. Early on I fell into her sympathy trap and felt a little sorry for her. I admit, I was played. But little by little, and piece by piece, the real Karen Faye started to emerge. And what she became made me wonder how in the name of all that is holy did Michael put up with her whining and imposing herself into his space for all those years. Proves even more what a patient, kind human being he is. I don’t follow her until I start seeing posts from people being attacked vehemently by her. Then I wish I hadn’t even bothered. She must be miserable.
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Michael is moody geek/
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How could he not be? Sick and tired of all the bull. If it were me I would be more than moody, I would be a raging bull.
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Well,all I know is she needs to not bump into me lol
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This is my location today. I am not stressin' over fan drama. Trust me. It isn't effecting my life answering between shots.
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This is my location today. I am not stressin' over fan drama. Trust me. It isn't effecting my life answering between shots.
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1.Can't see it
2.Noone cares karen
3.Cheeky bitch,it's her who encouraged and caused most of the drama after JJ's tweets :@:@:@:@:@:@:@
'fan drama' THEY AREN'T HER FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How dare she say it isn't effecting her life-what life?she is a makeup artist.....who are her global celebrity clients since she got fired?ER.....lets count them
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zero.
SERIOUSLY.Someone needs to smack her upside the head with a reality check or give her some medication and a slap....or all of the above.
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
afraid/ afraid/ errrr errrr
O my gosh maybe I´m old fashioned but if this had happened to me I would be like :oops: :oops: :oops: , go straight to a gym and have LOTS of workouts and never ever mention it anywhere, and certainly not on Twitter...
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
how cute
:shock:
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
how cute
:shock:
pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ pale/ #VOMIT
Why would anyone normal or sane admit to that...he was probably thinking
'woman,I pay you thousands of $ go get some sort of nip and tuck procedure before people start thinking you a bird and have wings'
That's what I am thinking but I'm sure he'd go along with it
She is so vile.
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Okay. Now who amongst us REALLY BELIEVE that Michael played with her stank underarm flab? I mean come on now. Come on Karen hold up those arms so I can get to that fold of under arm skin that flaps in the wind that I love so much to play with. Eeeewwwwww. That’s nasty. crash/ crash/
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
how cute
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Why would anyone normal or sane admit to that...he was probably thinking
'woman,I pay you thousands of $ go get some sort of nip and tuck procedure before people start thinking you a bird and have wings'
That's what I am thinking but I'm sure he'd go along with it
She is so vile.
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Seriously wth? What kind of person talks about this? She has some serious mental problems if you ask me. Disgusting.
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Okay. Now who amongst us REALLY BELIEVE that Michael played with her stank underarm flab? I mean come on now. Come on Karen hold up those arms so I can get to that fold of under arm skin that flaps in the wind that I love so much to play with. Eeeewwwwww. That’s nasty. crash/ crash/
Maybe MJ was politely trying to give her a hint that she needed to do some arm dips.....
One thing it definitely proves is that MJ had no romantic feelings for her... if anything, he was teasing her like he would a sister. I remember there are stories that MJ used to tease janet about her weight. (interesting that he never did the same to LaToya... but then LaToya has always looked like a doll. :-) I think he used to tease LaToya about her cleanliness obsession... there was a story about how LaToya was obsessed with the white carpet in her bedroom and wouldnt allow anyone to walk on it. lol )
There is no way a man would tease a woman about saggy underarm skin if he felt any kind of warmth and attraction to her... and definitely not if he had any sexual attraction to her.
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
how cute
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Why would anyone normal or sane admit to that...he was probably thinking
'woman,I pay you thousands of $ go get some sort of nip and tuck procedure before people start thinking you a bird and have wings'
That's what I am thinking but I'm sure he'd go along with it
She is so vile.
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Seriously wth? What kind of person talks about this? She has some serious mental problems if you ask me. Disgusting.
I already said once, she is in early menopause.
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Yea Michael would call heavier girls, Donkeys or Donks. It was all for fun, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had been teasing KF. I've never in my life heard a man say "OOOOOOEEE! Damn girl, look at all that juicy arm fat! Gon' girl!" :lol: :lol: :lol: KF seems to be in a fantasy land. We should really consider the possibilities of this woman being mentally unstable, and maybe Jermaine is following her only to make sure she doesn't slip up.
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
how cute
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Why would anyone normal or sane admit to that...he was probably thinking
'woman,I pay you thousands of $ go get some sort of nip and tuck procedure before people start thinking you a bird and have wings'
That's what I am thinking but I'm sure he'd go along with it
She is so vile.
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Seriously wth? What kind of person talks about this? She has some serious mental problems if you ask me. Disgusting.
I already said once, she is in early menopause.
And that's an excuse/explanation for???
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I´ve just read some of her tweets about her flappy upper arm skin and how MJ liked to play with it...
how cute
:shock:
Eww ! That's disgustingg ! errrr
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
WOW guys, would have been a big deal for the Laughter thread!!
The Tweet was from May 9 and there were seriously people who found that cute...
What a world. I´m getting old... geek/
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Ok I am posting this and I hope I don't offend anyone.... but if it's any consolation... *gulp* my name is Wendy... and I have Bingo Wings too....
[youtube:1j4zqu4f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-M4WNFOfg[/youtube:1j4zqu4f]
lolol/
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Probably that´s why her name is @wingheart! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
Wendy I love the vid! <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ -->
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Probably that´s why her name is @wingheart! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Probably that´s why her name is @wingheart! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
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KF please go check your mental health! i'm very concern, NOT!
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Probably that´s why her name is @wingheart! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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lolol/ lolol/ lolol/ lolol/
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lolol/ lolol/ Damn, thats cold!!! hahaha though funny. If KF's curiosity lead her to this forum, and stumbled upon this thread... now i feel bad lol
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lolol/ lolol/ Damn, thats cold!!! hahaha though funny. If KF's curiosity lead her to this forum, and stumbled upon this thread... now i feel bad lol
I don't
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Try having an affair with these instead of imagining you had one with Michael (Y)
Go for the healthy option K,Dumbells not delusions
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Try having an affair with these instead of imagining you had one with Michael (Y)
Or maybe she can do both at once!
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lolol/ THIS IS THE LAUGHTER THREAD HERE
Sinderella one woman show lolol/
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lolol/ THIS IS THE LAUGHTER THREAD HERE
Sinderella one woman show lolol/
..and i'm here for the duration.
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If I were Michael, I would kick her out. Spreading rumors about your boss is disgusting.
I think it will be the first thing Michael will do when he comes back. Now he knows what kind of person she really is.
And not only her. Now he knows about all of them.
Perfect testing.
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HAHAHAHA!!! I've got a bitter problem ....I Just PEED my pants almost!!!
WINGHEART= HALARIOUS!
FLAP THOSE WINGS INTO OBLIVION KAREN!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ -->
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This is hilarious! Maybe should change name to "Wingarms" ... from what I have read of her twitters and stories... she has no "heart" ... thanks for a good laugh! :lol:
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HAHAHAHA!!! I've got a bitter problem ....I Just PEED my pants almost!!!
WINGHEART= HALARIOUS!
FLAP THOSE WINGS INTO OBLIVION KAREN!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ -->
Ok, I meant to say "I've got a BIGGER problem, not a Bitter problem!!! Can't find the edit button to edit the
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officially wingarms :lol:
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I don't like Karen .....i never met her but i don't like her at all , she's all day on twitter saying things about Michael...doesn't she have anything to do ? She's like this all day long argue/ like she holds the truth anyway ...
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officially wingarms :lol:
YEP - why not? After "Diane Demon" and ´"Batshit" here we are with "wingarms"!
Tada! party/
Aren´t we creative guys?
;) OK normally I am a veeerrry nice girl and not that nasty, but as a proud owner of a solid pair of B.W. myself I think itś legal anyway to make some bad jokes!
And itś her fault anyway, why does she write such crap to anyone who doesn´t want to read it!
BTW sisters, here an advice: don´t loose to much weight in too short time when youŕe 35+ ( as I did ), or you are forced to join our wingarm party! :D
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"Diane Demon" and ´"Batshit"
lolol/ lolol/ lolol/
ok girls, you're crazy, this is it. and when i say this is it i mean this is it.
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ok girls, you're crazy, this is it. and when i say this is it i mean this is it.[/quote]
LOL! Hi Mike!
OMG I miss the minichat... itś so much fun with you guys. :D
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then there is the chatroom , don't you like it? and it's speedy!
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wingheart Karen Faye
LOL. I am also tired of answering Michael questions RT @opalite_heart: @wingheart Don't you wish Twitter had an entrance exam? -_-
:evil: Why doesnt she eff off then, the cheeky cow?
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wingheart Karen Faye
LOL. I am also tired of answering Michael questions RT @opalite_heart: @wingheart Don't you wish Twitter had an entrance exam? -_-
:evil: Why doesnt she eff off then, the cheeky cow?
I agree. If she didn't want to have to answer questions about Michael, then maybe she shouldn't have started talking about him all of the time in the first place. She could have joined Twitter, Facebook and the like and just chatted casually with her friends, family, other people in her field, etc., but she is the one who has been going out of her way to maintain a connection to Michael. Furthermore, she could just block the people who continue to ask about him, and stop talking about Michael herself if it bothers her so much, but again, it seems as though she is just trying to stay connected to him. You don't see Michael's real friends or the majority of his previous employees (since that's all she is anyway) chatting it up with random fans on social networking sites. Shouldn't she have signed a confidentiality agreement? It seems to me that her "nose" comment would have fallen under the guidelines of what not to be discussed in such an agreement.
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I don't normally judge people I don't know her but from what I see and feel she ain't much cop as they say in the UK
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I don't normally judge people I don't know her but from what I see and feel she ain't much cop as they say in the UK
I agree. For nearly two years now i have tried to be diplomatic about her. I reasoned with myself that maybe she was grieving, that she was trying to help us understand, etc... but recently her comments and her attitude towards MJs fans have become fairly outrageous.
She is only known because of Michael She made a living out of Michael... the house she lives in, the car she drives, the clothes she wears... all financed because of Michael if you think about it that way. She was employed by his success.
She chose to go onto FB and twitter and talk about Michael. Now she is complaining and saying she is "tired" of answering questions about Michael. I just cant catch my breath over this... the sheer audacity of the woman!!
Im sure she realises that there is a "delete account" button on twitter... no-one is forcing her to be online.
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I agree miss peppers al that time she was lucky enough to work for Michael or freelance for him as she likes to boast she was the lucky one what did she learn feck all that all now she is tired of talking about Michael poor didums if she was a decent person she could do so much good and use what she has learnt from her BOSS I am glad she banned me for the Elvis question as I so wanted to ask her about a problem with my eyeliner NOT. Sorry mad at her it's a shame she could do so much good I wonder if anyone has worked for her and how they got on with her it makes you wonder about that comment she complained about with the photographer the comment about michaels nose wether she did say something wrong as she did not say anything more about that after that
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Hey, why are you all so serious? This is Karen Faye thread, laughter thread lolol/
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Hey, why are you all so serious? This is Karen Faye thread, laughter thread lolol/
Because i dont find her attitude funny. She is verbally abusing MJs fans... belittling them, laughing at them and using them when it suits her... she made a nice life for herself by being an employee of MJ. She chose to go on twitter and spout off.. and for her to write she is tired of answering MJ questions just beggars belief.
These are Michaels fans... the fans who he loved. They are his family.
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I know very well Karen's attitude, i don't agree with it at all.
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I know very well Karen's attitude, i don't agree with it at all.
Sorry.. i just needed to sound off. i just saw red when i saw her comment on twitter.
((hugs))
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bearhug
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WINGARMS?!?!?! :shock: (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing017.gif) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: oh my god !
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Hey, why are you all so serious? This is Karen Faye thread, laughter thread lolol/
Because i dont find her attitude funny. She is verbally abusing MJs fans... belittling them, laughing at them and using them when it suits her... she made a nice life for herself by being an employee of MJ. She chose to go on twitter and spout off.. and for her to write she is tired of answering MJ questions just beggars belief.
These are Michaels fans... the fans who he loved. They are his family.
Maybe you all should ignore her? I mean a complete ignoring. This way she won't have an audience and she will just talk to herself until she gets tired of it.
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Hey, why are you all so serious? This is Karen Faye thread, laughter thread lolol/
Because i dont find her attitude funny. She is verbally abusing MJs fans... belittling them, laughing at them and using them when it suits her... she made a nice life for herself by being an employee of MJ. She chose to go on twitter and spout off.. and for her to write she is tired of answering MJ questions just beggars belief.
These are Michaels fans... the fans who he loved. They are his family.
Maybe you all should ignore her? I mean a complete ignoring. This way she won't have an audience and she will just talk to herself until she gets tired of it.
Exactly! Leave momma wingarms with her minion wingarms. Why need to follow her and care what she says? She's such a waste of time.
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momma wingarms
lolol/
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I approve her new name is wingarms.OFFICIALLY
and she has no one to blame but herself.
As for being 'tired' of answering Michael questions...
here's a thought Karen..SHUT THE FUCK UP.
She's alright talking about him when it suits her/benefits her...she's got her quota of attention for this month and she cba with it now.Sorry,but it doesn't work like that.
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Maybe you all should ignore her? I mean a complete ignoring. This way she won't have an audience and she will just talk to herself until she gets tired of it.
That would be a good idea. I don't get it in the first place, why such a long topic about someone most of the members here hate? If you don't like her than why follow her, if it's just crap she's talking. Personally I don't have an opinion about her. Anything is possible, she could be playing her role in this hoax, seeking for attention, feeling lonely, thinking she has to teach te world what is the truth lolol/ or just someone who like to hear herself talking. :lol:
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After complaining about being "tired of answering Michael questions" - she is now back on topic, talking about how Michael called her the "hippy way".
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Michael was so romantic to her lol
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Michael was so romantic to her lol
I'm not sure what he thinks about her. If I would go by only pictures I would say their relationship went to a much lower stage. In old pics they look together like they had fun but in later pics Michael seemed to be a little annoyed when she hugged him.
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Maybe in the beginning they did have always have fun together, as everyone who worked with him said they worked hard but always laughed lots, but along the way maybe she started taking herself a little too seriously and that turned him off. Interesting the comment about her not seeming to worry about confidentiality issues, and then 2 years now of putting herself out there for what? This has to be her assignment for the hoax.
Wingarms, too funny, and the discussion, oh my :lol:
Wendy, I loved the bingo-wings video!
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Remember KF
-"I am a better person now, and so is LMP, because we each have grown and learned. Neither of us is perfect yet ;)"
-"LMP and I are clear, and that is what is important to me. We have made our peace &through understanding, became close"
-"I feel bad about the fans who spend so much time trying to hurt others."
-" I began to see why she acted the way she did, and made the decisions she did. I was only getting one side of the story."
-"I did say things I believed to be true. But once LMP and I spoke & shared info, we came to understand things more clearly"
-"I wish some of the hateful fans would take a lesson from LMP and I"
-"It is sad that fans want to try and hurt Lisa and I. But she and I are beyond that, so their cruel efforts to hurt us are wasted"
-"I know. It is ok. LMP and I had our differences, but since MJ's funeral we were able to talk & understand each other."
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Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
Michael did not fired Karen---LIED LIED by jealous haters.
Karen has said that she was fired during the HIStory tour. Karen to us also explained the reason for this. I WILL say that MICHAEL did not fire her (MJ was even sad that she had to go), it was someone from Michael people.
2005. After Michael's trial, Michael went off to Bahrain. Should he have taken her with him? I'm just curious. I mean, okay, first of all, Karen worked on contract. So, I would assume that when Michael left the continent, her contract was over. You cannot fire someone whose contract is over. It just doesn't work that way. There was no reason in the world Michael would need his make up artist (and, yes, friend, but friends don't always travel to the middle east with their friends, especially when one friend has just been through the ordeal of his life and perhaps wants to spend some time alone with his children recovering from the physical and emotional toll it took on him and another friend has a life back home including a CHILD....... ) There is no reason in the world he needed her to go with him. And why didn't he use her for the few appearances he made between when he came back and TII? There are a number of answers to that, but not one of them is "because he was mad at her because of the MJJSource thing", but it not true.
So, what I'm saying is - Karen was NEVER fired by Michael. Never. Didn't happen.
was part of the website. The name was MJJ sources. It was set up by Michael, Randy,and his girlfriend at the time The membership fee was $50.00. The website was set up to get the truth out during the trial in 2005. And Michael asked me Karen Faye if she would help. They had many plans. Michael was awarded a public interview by the courts, when Sneddon unlawfully leaked some information to the media. Geraldo Rivera did an interview with Michael, and FOX decide not to air it on their network. So at the last minute MJJS put it on the website. The media was not needed. Every outlet picked it up. They also posted the actual court transcripts everyday. The cost was huge. They started to asked for the membership fees, so we could keep the website going, but that was not enough to cover the cost. After the trial, and Michael left the country, Grace was placed in charge of handling Michael’s finances, and a decision was made not to pay for the server. There was not enough money to pay and the server pulled the plug. They could not continue, nor did they have the power to continue.
People are now saying Karen stole the money. NO SHE DID NOT. Grace was the one who was in control of the money that MJJ sources received. IBut anyways if someone took that much money that would constitute a crime and someone should be behind bars for it. Many fans are against Karen Faye now although she did got some hate over the years but not so much like now. Ot all started when she posted those pics from forrest lawn in her private facebook and share nice stories of her time working with MJ. Also she stared to speak out against AEG and all those repsonisble for his death. But that another story. All I can say is that Karen is a lovely person, I have talked to her and she does not deserved all the hate she is getting. . I have also seen how in almost thirty years, she never once betrayed Michael. I also see people twist her words around.. I will literally see her say something and then see a totally distorted version of what she said on some other page an hour later. It is ridiculous. You don't have to like her or agree with her but enough with the accusations with NO proof or factual basis and enough with literally spreading LIES!
Sorry I wrote to much-but she is my friend and I hate when people tried to defame her--especially in some MJ forums & youtube.
8 months ago
Source: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 205AA1MSWh (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100924110205AA1MSWh)
What do you think?
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She was fired and everyone knows it,she knows it,and we all know why.
If she wasn't fired,then why did their friendship dissolve into almost nothing until TII?
She was caught out,and then ran off and hung out with his stalkers...
She still talks about him,spills private info and secrets,things she should keep to herself if she was any kind of friend...but no.
There is no one who will ever make me like her or have any respect for her.She is just a disgrace.
Also,the person who wrote that has awful English skills...just saying.
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I think it was her lol
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Remember KF
-"I am a better person now, and so is LMP, because we each have grown and learned. Neither of us is perfect yet ;)"
-"LMP and I are clear, and that is what is important to me. We have made our peace &through understanding, became close"
-"I feel bad about the fans who spend so much time trying to hurt others."
-" I began to see why she acted the way she did, and made the decisions she did. I was only getting one side of the story."
-"I did say things I believed to be true. But once LMP and I spoke & shared info, we came to understand things more clearly"
-"I wish some of the hateful fans would take a lesson from LMP and I"
-"It is sad that fans want to try and hurt Lisa and I. But she and I are beyond that, so their cruel efforts to hurt us are wasted"
-"I know. It is ok. LMP and I had our differences, but since MJ's funeral we were able to talk & understand each other."
What on earth has Michaels marriage to LMP got to do with Karen??? Why would LMP care about what Michaels employee and make-up artist thought of her?
The way this is worded makes Karen sound like she too had a past romantic relationship with MJ and that she somehow had to make amends with LMP.
If i was LMP, i would have despised Karen too - sticking her nose into a marriage which she had no business in.
Also.. today i have noticed lots of tweets from Karen talking about Michael. So a few days ago she was tired of talking about it and now that Jermaine has spoken about Taborelli, Karen thinks she will jump on the bandwagon and go on and on about the subject.
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wingheart Karen Faye
He was extremely sweet & generous with me, when he was alive.
Did Karen just have a slip-up? What kind of phrase is this?
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I read the last 2 pages of this thread and looks to me that Karen´s intentions is to tease fans badly :lol: she is playing fans like the piano.
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Gema, you are right. :lol:
wingheart Karen Faye
Got to get to the gym...anyone join me in some exercise? C'mon!
Sinderella, this is the proof she's not only reading the forum but following our friendly advice too.
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wingheart Karen Faye
He was extremely sweet & generous with me, when he was alive.
Did Karen just have a slip-up? What kind of phrase is this?
Why a slip-up?
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You are wrong. Michael loved BJ. Michael wouldn't have appreciated you calling ANYONE names like that. How dare you even use MJ's initials in your twitter ID. Shame on you. RT @Janice777mj: @wingheart @bjhickman7 is a fake a fraud! fat ass faggot! michael hated him and the jacksons hate him now. he is a loser! ignore him!
Who is BJ? confused/
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Gema, you are right. :lol:
wingheart Karen Faye
Got to get to the gym...anyone join me in some exercise? C'mon!
Sinderella, this is the proof she's not only reading the forum but following our friendly advice too.
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA.
Be sure to let us know how your arms are coming along Karen
actually...
nah,on second thoughts,don't...you're still a bitch with too much to say regardless.
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Maybe that's why MJ hoaxed his death, to get away from her :lol: :lol:
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You are wrong. Michael loved BJ. Michael wouldn't have appreciated you calling ANYONE names like that. How dare you even use MJ's initials in your twitter ID. Shame on you. RT @Janice777mj: @wingheart @bjhickman7 is a fake a fraud! fat ass faggot! michael hated him and the jacksons hate him now. he is a loser! ignore him!
Who is BJ? confused/
from what i understand he is a fan who diane diamond had a restraining order or something filed against during the trial . is that it guys? is he also someone who was brought up by that d movie person?
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You are wrong. Michael loved BJ. Michael wouldn't have appreciated you calling ANYONE names like that. How dare you even use MJ's initials in your twitter ID. Shame on you. RT @Janice777mj: @wingheart @bjhickman7 is a fake a fraud! fat ass faggot! michael hated him and the jacksons hate him now. he is a loser! ignore him!
Who is BJ? confused/
from what i understand he is a fan who diane diamond had a restraining order or something filed against during the trial . is that it guys? is he also someone who was brought up by that d movie person?
B.J. Hickman. Another one of the stalker fans.
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You are wrong. Michael loved BJ. Michael wouldn't have appreciated you calling ANYONE names like that. How dare you even use MJ's initials in your twitter ID. Shame on you. RT @Janice777mj: @wingheart @bjhickman7 is a fake a fraud! fat ass faggot! michael hated him and the jacksons hate him now. he is a loser! ignore him!
Who is BJ? confused/
from what i understand he is a fan who diane diamond had a restraining order or something filed against during the trial . is that it guys? is he also someone who was brought up by that d movie person?
B.J. Hickman. Another one of the stalker fans.
so he does in deed fall into this catagory? i had wondered. he seemed to be mentioned a few different places. curious .
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Remember KF
-"I am a better person now, and so is LMP, because we each have grown and learned. Neither of us is perfect yet ;)"
-"LMP and I are clear, and that is what is important to me. We have made our peace &through understanding, became close"
-"I feel bad about the fans who spend so much time trying to hurt others."
-" I began to see why she acted the way she did, and made the decisions she did. I was only getting one side of the story."
-"I did say things I believed to be true. But once LMP and I spoke & shared info, we came to understand things more clearly"
-"I wish some of the hateful fans would take a lesson from LMP and I"
-"It is sad that fans want to try and hurt Lisa and I. But she and I are beyond that, so their cruel efforts to hurt us are wasted"
-"I know. It is ok. LMP and I had our differences, but since MJ's funeral we were able to talk & understand each other."
off topic: wonder where the music is that lisa was going to be putting out and needed to get all of the michael conversation behind her so interviews would be focused on that instead of him? anyone heard of any?
i also wonder what is karens take on debbie and vice versa?
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This is his twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/bjhickman7 (http://twitter.com/#!/bjhickman7)
Here are a few pictures of him. Like Sam Gossen he was there at the 2005 trial and now he seems to be constantly at Forest Lawn, Neverland and the Courts.
(http://www.mj-upbeat.com/images/hic2.JPG)
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(http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/B+J+Hickman+Michael+Jackson+Case+Continues+eQu7CR5MmSel.jpg)
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hey that isn't that twiggy chick in that second picture is it ?
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anyone know what started the twitter conversation that had karen and jermaine defending this guy?
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@suspicious mind.
When Karen was on facebook she spoke about Debbie and basically said she didnt like her and couldnt understand how a woman could sell her children.
When i challenged her on this view, by pointing out that if she judged Debbie then she was also judging Michael - because if Debbie "sold" the children, then Michael "brought" them. Needless to say, i got blocked.
There are places on the internet where all these conversations and screengrabs from Karens facebook can be found. I used to have them all bookmarked until my old computer conked out so now ive lost them. But if you really wanted to search for them, they are there somewhere on the net.
Karen also spoke very unkindly about Joanna.. the french girl who MJ was seen with a few times.
Basically, any woman that MJ was close to was verbally abused on FB by Karen.
It is my view that Debbie is the best of them all. She hasnt spoken a word since 2009. She has kept her silence. She hasnt sold an interview and neither (to my knowledge) is she writing a book or spouting off on twitter.
So i can tell you that Karen had very nasty things to say about Debbie.
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anyone know what started the twitter conversation that had karen and jermaine defending this guy?
I think someone tweeted to her that Michael didnt like BJ and that he is fat.. something along those lines.
I think its very interesting Karen always sticks up for the stalkers... Sam and BJ.
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hey that isn't that twiggy chick in that second picture is it ?
Who the heck is twiggy and which lady do you mean? x
I dont even know when this was taken... i found it on a random google search.
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hey that isn't that twiggy chick in that second picture is it ?
Who the heck is twiggy and which lady do you mean? x
I dont even know when this was taken... i found it on a random google search.
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the older one on the right. i could easily be mistaken.
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@suspicious mind.
When Karen was on facebook she spoke about Debbie and basically said she didnt like her and couldnt understand how a woman could sell her children.
When i challenged her on this view, by pointing out that if she judged Debbie then she was also judging Michael - because if Debbie "sold" the children, then Michael "brought" them. Needless to say, i got blocked.
There are places on the internet where all these conversations and screengrabs from Karens facebook can be found. I used to have them all bookmarked until my old computer conked out so now ive lost them. But if you really wanted to search for them, they are there somewhere on the net.
Karen also spoke very unkindly about Joanna.. the french girl who MJ was seen with a few times.
Basically, any woman that MJ was close to was verbally abused on FB by Karen.
It is my view that Debbie is the best of them all. She hasnt spoken a word since 2009. She has kept her silence. She hasnt sold an interview and neither (to my knowledge) is she writing a book or spouting off on twitter.
So i can tell you that Karen had very nasty things to say about Debbie.
i think i am inclined to agree with you about debbie. the thing with the joanna chick causes me some concern .
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Well one thing is for sure. Debbie gave Michael the greatest gift of all, his children. And that cannot be disputed no matter what anyone says. Karen Faye needs to simply deal with that. Debbie got dibs on that one all by her lonesome. penguin/
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Well one thing is for sure. Debbie gave Michael the greatest gift of all, his children. And that cannot be disputed no matter what anyone says. Karen Faye needs to simply deal with that. Debbie got dibs on that one all by her lonesome. penguin/
yeah her and ever who blankets mother is ;)
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I kinda worry about Blanket confused/ . Kids can be mean spirited when you reach the middle and high school years. I know though that Michael or whom ever he has chosen to do so, will be ready with the right explanation when and if the time ever presents itself. I just hope that Blanket will be okay. But then he does have big brother and sister to fend for him should any bullies and knuckleheads get too out of pocket. They appear to be quite capable of handling things if need be and without any semblance of violence. Just beat it. michael-jackson/
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I kinda worry about Blanket confused/ . Kids can be mean spirited when you reach the middle and high school years. I know though that Michael or whom ever he has chosen to do so, will be ready with the right explanation when and if the time ever presents itself. I just hope that Blanket will be okay. But then he does have big brother and sister to fend for him should any bullies and knuckleheads get too out of pocket. They appear to be quite capable of handling things if need be and without any semblance of violence. Just beat it. michael-jackson/
well me thinks if there is actually a legal agreement ove blanket it will show up somewhere sometime. although i have to wonder if there aren't all kinds of little goodies the man hasn't been able to keep under the radar for a while now.
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I don't think that is twiggy from from MJHOAXLIVE I have too say bj Hickman seems to love Michael but in a bit of an over powering way butwho knows he might be a good guynot sure yet
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Why didn't Michael choose her as a surrogat mother instead of Debbie, if they were such loyal friends. She would have loved the idea, i'm sure.
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suspicious mind and Miss.Peppers, thank you so much for explaining me about this BJ guy.
Well, it seems Karen is much more close with Michael's stalkers than with the boss humself and this automatically puts her on the same level. To me it was clear from the day one she wasn't and couldn't be in the know. You should be really VERY trustworthy and REALLY loyal to your Boss to let you in something really serious, like this hoax.
I think Michael perfectly knows her worth.
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suspicious mind and Miss.Peppers, thank you so much for explaining me about this BJ guy.
Well, it seems Karen is much more close with Michael's stalkers than with the boss humself and this automatically puts her on the same level. To me it was clear from the day one she wasn't and couldn't be in the know. You should be really VERY trustworthy and REALLY loyal to your Boss to let you in something really serious, like this hoax.
I think Michael perfectly knows her worth.
ditto that lolol/
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@suspicious mind.
When Karen was on facebook she spoke about Debbie and basically said she didnt like her and couldnt understand how a woman could sell her children.
When i challenged her on this view, by pointing out that if she judged Debbie then she was also judging Michael - because if Debbie "sold" the children, then Michael "brought" them. Needless to say, i got blocked.
There are places on the internet where all these conversations and screengrabs from Karens facebook can be found. I used to have them all bookmarked until my old computer conked out so now ive lost them. But if you really wanted to search for them, they are there somewhere on the net.
Karen also spoke very unkindly about Joanna.. the french girl who MJ was seen with a few times.
Basically, any woman that MJ was close to was verbally abused on FB by Karen.
It is my view that Debbie is the best of them all. She hasnt spoken a word since 2009. She has kept her silence. She hasnt sold an interview and neither (to my knowledge) is she writing a book or spouting off on twitter.
So i can tell you that Karen had very nasty things to say about Debbie.
It's because she is desperately in love and obsessed with Michael and Michael kicked her ass and fired her. And he didn't ask her to have the kids but Debbie. She is dying of jealousy.
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Why didn't Michael choose her as a surrogat mother instead of Debbie, if they were such loyal friends. She would have loved the idea, i'm sure.
She was asked that on FB and Karens reply was that she already had her daughter and was married... and because MJ knew about her morals and beliefs, he never asked her and never would have asked her. She said that MJ would know she would be totally against the idea as she would never "sell" her children.
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Why didn't Michael choose her as a surrogat mother instead of Debbie, if they were such loyal friends. She would have loved the idea, i'm sure.
She was asked that on FB and Karens reply was that she already had her daughter and was married... and because MJ knew about her morals and beliefs, he never asked her and never would have asked her. She said that MJ would know she would be totally against the idea as she would never "sell" her children.
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From 6:25 Debbie Rowe explains very well her reasons for having MJ´s kids. Karen is wrong when talking about "selling kids".
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Why didn't Michael choose her as a surrogat mother instead of Debbie, if they were such loyal friends. She would have loved the idea, i'm sure.
She was asked that on FB and Karens reply was that she already had her daughter and was married... and because MJ knew about her morals and beliefs, he never asked her and never would have asked her. She said that MJ would know she would be totally against the idea as she would never "sell" her children.
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Interesting. i watched the Debbie Rowe interview posted above. Ive seen it before, but its interesting to see it again.
Note how Debbie Rowe adimantly denies MJ is addicted to drugs (and this is BEFORE 2009) - and that the children wouldnt be with him if she thought he was abusing drugs.
I believe her.
I hope one day she chooses to do another interview like this one.
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Interesting. i watched the Debbie Rowe interview posted above. Ive seen it before, but its interesting to see it again.
Note how Debbie Rowe adimantly denies MJ is addicted to drugs (and this is BEFORE 2009) - and that the children wouldnt be with him if she thought he was abusing drugs.
I believe her.
I hope one day she chooses to do another interview like this one.
Of course! I believe debbie knew Michael very well to have children with. She said she loved him and that´s why she gave him the chance of being a father. i am sure that she has been more present in their lives that media let us know.
Debbie is a very strong woman and with the head on her shoulders as we say in Spain.
Karen Faye is just teasing moody fans. It is obvious that she does not like jealous female fans or fans who are too eager to get close to Michael. Only she knows if she was in love with him but I would not be surprised if she was after listening how people talks about Michael. He seems adorable.
However, if she believes that Michael is dead, may be she should stop gossiping about her relation with him.
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My "twits" couldn't possibly prove Michael was gay. Jason is using my tweets to prove Dr. Klein is not being truthful. Big difference. RT @maninthe777: @wingheart @JasonPfeiffer1 Karen he uses ur twits to prove that MJ was gay & Klein lied on his FB.PLEASE STOP IT.U know how to do it.
What did she tweet so " proving"? confused/
The more I read her the more Im getting convinced she's not feeling very well.
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From 6:25 Debbie Rowe explains very well her reasons for having MJ´s kids. Karen is wrong when talking about "selling kids".
[youtube:u3zfhv66]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpp-I9-mRbw&feature=related[/youtube:u3zfhv66]
I saw another video where Debbie did an interview but I cant remember if it had been taped before or after Michaels death.It was with Geraldo I think and Debbie had mentioned that both children were Michaels and concieved in the normal way.She also mentioned when she had decided she had had enough with the media when she couldnt even go grocery shopping anymore.Does anyone know where that video is?
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My "twits" couldn't possibly prove Michael was gay. Jason is using my tweets to prove Dr. Klein is not being truthful. Big difference. RT @maninthe777: @wingheart @JasonPfeiffer1 Karen he uses ur twits to prove that MJ was gay & Klein lied on his FB.PLEASE STOP IT.U know how to do it.
What did she tweet so " proving"? confused/
The more I read her the more Im getting convinced she's not feeling very well.
Well, she's a woman :lol:
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Well, she's a woman :lol:
Huh? :shock:
What do you mean with that? :?
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Well, she's a woman :lol:
Huh? :shock:
What do you mean with that? :?
:) Just the fact she's a woman, I think.
But I must say I really don't like the way the woman behaves lately. I mean all those rumors about Jason and his wtfuckin statements. Iam not against gays but I am against outright lies. It's a widely known fact that Michael loves women, why dirty him like that? And the so called close friend Karen does not bat an eye when she is asked for clarifications. She knows much about his life and his relations and she is trusted by many, why does she keep her mouth shut when needed and keep blabbing when no needed?
Not a good woman
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Just the fact she's a woman, I think.
Exactly. :lol:
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Just the fact she's a woman, I think.
Exactly. :lol:
Okkkaayyy... :?
are you male, heartphantom? suspicious//
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I came across this blog and again tried to understand why she kept doing it and I couldn't. Again.
Friday 6th May 2011 - I owe it to Michael and myself to stand up against the ignorance. I have ignored most of it for two years...but sometimes you have to expose it, in order to purge it from your soul"
"There is no reason to address a theory, when the facts are already facts. I am sorry that fans believe a fallacy.
Can you imagine how this hoax stuff would hurt his children?
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans.
I do not have a problem with BeLievers. Just the THOUGHT of their their theories is extremely painful...when I held his dead body in my arms. Can you NOT give me a little consideration? Paris placed half a heart necklace with him before closing the lid. Have some common decency to consider his CHILDREN! I draw a heavy line of what I will accept from people. EXPLOITING my friends death, and the theory he is still ALIVE is at the top of my list.
The Jackson family shared their son, their brother, their father with the world...they owe nothing more.
There is a trial...if someone had all the answers, there would be no need for a trial. There will NEVER be enough answers to satisfy the fans. I have EXPERIENCED the truth that he is gone, so I can not even entertain your hoax. PERIOD!"
Source: Karen Faye
http://michaeljacksonmiracle.blogspot.c ... -hoax.html (http://michaeljacksonmiracle.blogspot.com/2011/05/karen-faye-tweets-about-death-hoax.html)
BTW, was she asked to entertain "our" hoax? I must of skipped that.
If Michael didn't see fit to let her in why would we?
What she's doing is not right. I mean her playing with the fans emotions. All those talks about Paris putting a necklace with him or her holding and makeuping his dead body must be stopped once and for all.
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JentleTouch wrote:
I came across this blog and again tried to understand why she kept doing it and I couldn't. Again.
Friday 6th May 2011 - I owe it to Michael and myself to stand up against the ignorance. I have ignored most of it for two years...but sometimes you have to expose it, in order to purge it from your soul"
"There is no reason to address a theory, when the facts are already facts. I am sorry that fans believe a fallacy.
Can you imagine how this hoax stuff would hurt his children?
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans.
I do not have a problem with BeLievers. Just the THOUGHT of their their theories is extremely painful...when I held his dead body in my arms. Can you NOT give me a little consideration? Paris placed half a heart necklace with him before closing the lid. Have some common decency to consider his CHILDREN! I draw a heavy line of what I will accept from people. EXPLOITING my friends death, and the theory he is still ALIVE is at the top of my list.
The Jackson family shared their son, their brother, their father with the world...they owe nothing more.
There is a trial...if someone had all the answers, there would be no need for a trial. There will NEVER be enough answers to satisfy the fans. I have EXPERIENCED the truth that he is gone, so I can not even entertain your hoax. PERIOD!"
Source: Karen Faye
http://michaeljacksonmiracle.blogspot.c (http://michaeljacksonmiracle.blogspot.c) ... -hoax.html
BTW, was she asked to entertain "our" hoax? I must of skipped that.
If Michael didn't see fit to let her in why would we?
What she's doing is not right. I mean her playing with the fans emotions. All those talks about Paris putting a necklace with him or her holding and makeuping his dead body must be stopped once and for all.
when she held her body, "dead" .. until when? :roll:
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Karen Faye
On Friday 27th May 2011, @wingheart said:
Just when I was working with my other clients...he had to find me. RT @Technicalitiez: Did you ever play hide and go seek with Michael? @wingheart
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Stumbled over more drama. The pace makers are reliable.
On Monday 6th June 2011, @wingheart said:
Someone alerted me to that. I do not have that...Lynda Parrish, who did his hair briefly, the woman who displayed it in Atlanta has it. I would NEVER do that.
[youtube:2ovpdgpf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQuyfctY3hI&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube:2ovpdgpf]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQuyfctY3hI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
RT @PepzMachine: @wingheart Have you heard they are auctioning off MJs O2 wig? It makes me feel wierd - its too personal to sell off. :-(
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/aulvrl
http://twitter.com/wingheart
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wingheart Karen Faye
She lives in the UK now...we only text. (she's talking about Lisa Marie P )
Someone asks Karen: Did Tatiana and MJ have so good chemistry as she constantly brags about? Now she says he grabbed her ass and legs at TWYMMF ?
Karen's answer: I refuse to speak about T delusions any longer. Believe what you wish.
Someone asks Karen: Have you heard they are auctioning off MJs O2 wig? It makes me feel wierd - its too personal to sell off. :-(
Karen's answer: Someone alerted me to that. I do not have that...Lynda Parrish, who did his hair briefly, the woman who displayed it in Atlanta has it. I would NEVER do that.
Someone asks Karen: Have you heard they are auctioning off MJs O2 wig? It makes me feel wierd - its too personal to sell off. :-(
Karen's answer: Lynda Parrish was a friend of Raymone Bain
wingheart Karen Faye
This behavior by a supposedly "good friend, and professional" is a desperate and poor judgement decision. Very sad for Michael...
Someone says: Of all the things I've seen go up for auction, that one makes me the saddest. I can't imagine he'd have wanted it on display. :(
Karen's answer: Of course not. He was very sensitive about this. I am quite appalled, because she would have known how private he was about this. To display this is the worst possible betrayal.
Someone: I dont understand something : to me MJ had to wear a half or quarter wig, I Heard it because of arno bani's relationship With him.(dont remember well) cause of pepsi accident. But why this one is a complet one?
Karen's answer: This is NO ONE'S BUSINESS!!! This is something Michael wanted to keep private. Even when others want to betray this I WILL NOT! It just really hurts me that something that was so personal and private to Michael has been used to boost this woman's ego & next career move. This makes me cry, and I haven't been brought to tears for a while now....but THIS BREAKS MY HEART! This is ONE THING, one thing he wanted so much to be private. This woman even uses my work with Michael to advertise as her own. This unethical behavior is so low...I must stop tweeting today, cuz it is making me sick in my stomach with sadness.
On Tuesday 7th June 2011, @wingheart said:
I think Michael would understand selling a jacket...he gave many away himself... if someone, one of his dear friends, needed the money for some reason. He would help his friends. But selling his personal privacy is a totally different situation. The Thriller jacket was an iconic publicized and merchandised item. I know you understand the difference. I am sorry if people misunderstood. I know your heart is in the right place. Thank you for always supporting me.
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That is low of Lynda Parrish IMO. Many medications taken for lupus thins out the hair. Why Karen Faye is getting so up in arms because she was asked a question, who knows. She is a drama queen. And besides she has divulged more personal stuff than that over the years. so why stop now crash/
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Auctioning off MJs O2 wig is tasteless :evil:
I understand Karen´s concern, if MJ was private about it (according to her).
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Selling the wig is tasteless (if, in fact, it is being sold). Most people were aware MJ wore wigs so I doubt he would be worried that people knew it. I hope not anyway.
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I don't look at this wig sales auction with a negative impact.
I always wondered in general WHO would be in possession of personal MJ items to be able to sell them.
As to this specific wig, the answer for "who is the possessor?" would be: its owner. Right?
Except: the wig had a "reserve" wig double kept by the makeup stylist - just in case the first one would develop an issue. However - the owner would still be ... the person the wig was made for and the person who paid the making of the wig. Right?
So if this wig - an item of disguise in the public eye as a certain branded character - can be auctioned, this can only happen because:
- the wig would have had no use anymore neither for Michael nor for the scaffolding stylist after March 2009
- the wig was handed over to Julien's
- Julien's decided or was ordered to create an auction with this item.
Alternatives for the reasons of getting the wig into public eye:
- the style of the wig owner has changed and therefore the owner authorized the sale.
- the wig was stolen from the owner and the true owner cannot stop the auction because he's "still dead".
- showing the wig to the public again has another and deeper intention than an auction.
- the media report is faked.
I do not go with alternative 2 because Michael has shown to be in control. Even if Michael could not utter one single word as MJ right now, there would be means and measures and friends etc. to stop an unauthorized sales event.
Alternative 1 would be simple and neat and just be signal of a personal development.
Alternative 3 would go with a different meaning and would require some research.
Alternative 4 is very convenient now. I don't go with this - too flat.
Going back to basics, this is a wig:
A wig is a head of hair made from horsehair, human hair, wool, feathers, yak hair, buffalo hair, or synthetic materials which is worn on the head for fashion or various other aesthetic and stylistic reasons, including cultural and religious observance. The word wig is short for periwig and first appeared in the English language around 1675.
Some people wear wigs to disguise the fact that they are bald; a wig may be used as a less intrusive and less expensive alternative to therapies for restoring hair. Wigs may also be used as a cosmetic accessory, sometimes in a religious context. Actors often wear costume wigs in order to better portray a character.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wig)
I think the old disguise is just not needed anymore - except for turning up the heat of emotional revival of what it feels (felt) like losing Michael in the upcoming days until June 25. I might be wrong but I think it just has a memory effect background "don't forget" why the wig is surfacing now.
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i'm with you on that one Grace. This wig was something he bought in the late 08 to use for his appearance in london in march. The funky (Rockstar) new hairstyle, i think, was used to make a point and to make people take notice and start to ask questions... "who is this" "is this michel" "whats up with his hair" and so on....
I dont think this wig was so personal as Karen want us to think. She is probably just a bit upset not being the one in posession of it. Private would be to sell photos of a bald MJ. I think Mj is well aware of whats happening.... I think he has moved on from this wig...
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In TII, MJ is shown the ENTIRE movie without a wig. Not one scene does he have a wig on, you can tell: its not exactly rocket science. He's not BALD! He still has hair, it has thinned from aging and any sort of medication he may or may not have been taken as hesouttamylife has said. This is normal. How did anyone not know Mike has worn wigs? Who cares?! KF is very melodramatic. I really hope she is putting on an act, because if this is really her personality she needs Jesus. :lol: Take a look at my Avatar picture. I'll give you a hint, I'm NOT a blonde. Do the math! :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9614
Wig
(http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/michael-jackson-this-is-it-movie-1.jpg)
Not A Wig
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I've never understood why MJ wears wigs. His wigs are beautiful and very well made, but his natural hair is so pretty and looks soft and I want to braid it and play with it :) oh where am i?! I got lost there for a minute :lol:
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Even if he would use a wig, is nothing wrong about it. I for sure won´t buy anybody elses wig, not even Michael´s :lol:
I will start saving my used wax papers just in case i become famous one day!
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he has been busy being the primary caretaker for three children. not to mention all of the other things in his life. it would be so easy and make so much sense to do it this way whether or not he could grow hair down his backside or not.i also don't think grace is too far off either.
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Some Fans have been very stupid and asked Karen if she believes mj is alive and so on:
Here is what she tweets:
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
He is NOT alive, and I block ppl who keep disrespecting his death by perpetuating these horrible and hurtful lies. RT @RebeccaBianca: @wingheart do u beLIEve that michael jackson is alive or dead :D
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
False hopes that are horrible & hurtful lies, that disrespect his passing. RT @WorriorQueenMJJ: @wingheart don't say "horrible and hurtful lies" please...
These are only hopes.
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
You know...it harms me, when they tweet me about it. RT @Tupacaveli: @wingheart continue to keep it real. Believers don't mean harm, they are just gullible & feel loss. I pity them but kinda understand too.
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
I can understand how most ppl are not affected by the beLievers and their incorrect theories. But I am sure his family and those who must live with the FACT he died, and how real that loss is everyday of our lives, to open your Twitter account and be confronted and attacked is hurtful. RT @MoondanceFairy: @wingheart Hi Karen...I agree with you ...
spreading lies, about false death only adds to pain
to pain :-((
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
Yes, there are FACTS. Not theories. He died @ the careless hands of Conrad Murray. Where have YOU BEEN? RT @Lady45Lady: @wingheart Do youn have any suggestion of correct theories ??
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
They do not have to make a statement or address such a idiotic theory. They might as well put out a statement that the world isn't flat; same waste of time. They would look as crazy as those who believe that he's alive. Are ppl really this dumb? RT @MyEndofTime: @wingheart / They need to make a statement and put these theories to rest once and for all and tell the truth / Hoax videos hold the fans
what do you think about her tweets?
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She's doing an awesome job for Michael! She's tough as nails, and makes me laugh! She's controlling the majority of non-beLIEvers by her hurt feelings and drama. Maybe she'll get an best actress award! :D
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She's doing an awesome job for Michael! She's tough as nails, and makes me laugh! She's controlling the majority of non-beLIEvers by her hurt feelings and drama. Maybe she'll get an best actress award! :D
Great MJonmind :lol:...agreeeeeee..... mj_dance/ moonwalk_/
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I wish to see her dumb face when MJ comes back. I wonder what she's going to say then? :twisted:
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Whether she's in on it or not, I don't like her attitude about this. She needs to chill out, seriously. These theories are NOT new, so why is she acting like it's the first time she's heard them? I don't like the way she represents her personality on twitter..
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She talks about incorrect theories, ???/ it seems that reads the forums hoax smiley_spider
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Karen always says same things, I can't believe some "believers" keep bothering her!
She made it all clear months ago.
Or do people enjoy being called crazy and DUMB over and over again?
* facepalm * Crazy is not that bad, we all are in a way, but asking Karen
same questions repeatedly indeed makes the word "dumb" highlighted, and I don't
like that word! :lol:
Elsewhere, risking to sound truly insensitive and dumb now, I lost my father years ago
too,
and if someone came to me and told me "You know he is not really dead! You do know,
don't you! Tell me the truth!", it won't
hurt me a second, as I know for sure he is dead and I saw his dead body. I would think the person
is either misinformed or nuts, and that's about it. After telling the person once what I do know,
I'd ignore person's future attempts to get the truth from me. I suppose this is what family
and Karen have to do, any scenario. Can't see how existence of such theories might "hurt"
them as they do know the truth. She really should quietly block "believers" and that's about it,
she gets too emotional, wasting too much time explaining and b*tching about it, it
changes nothing, only makes everyone angry, especially if there are truly unstable people
involved.
But she can do whatever she wants of course.
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The fact that she described Michael in casket in one appearance, la Toya in different appearance and she could not answer my question I tweeted, plus her tweet to ME on hoax subject before she blocked me (I posted it here) "EVEN IF HE DOES THAT (HOAX HIS DEATH), YOU WOULD KNOW SHIT", says a lot to me.
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Ah. I don't think Karen's a bad person. She seems to be rude only to the people who ask her about Michael faking his death. I think she's vigorously protecting him. Maybe she's intimidated by people knowing. Or she's scared that something not good will happen if too many people know. (I know I am) Maybe she really doesn't know anything. confused/
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It's sad that Karen keeps telling the same story.
How can she say she hold his dead body if it weren't true :-\ :-\ :-\????
OMG sometimes I am really so scared
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May God bless her...but I just can't STAND Karen Faye.....#thatisall :x
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Okey karen is protecting Michael FINE by me.BUT she doing a little bit too good work in protecting Michael. Something is very wrong, I think! and like @ginafelicia said "How can she say she hold his dead body if it weren't true?"
It just don't make any sense at all.
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Some Fans have been very stupid and asked Karen if she believes mj is alive and so on:
Here is what she tweets:
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
He is NOT alive, and I block ppl who keep disrespecting his death by perpetuating these horrible and hurtful lies. RT @RebeccaBianca: @wingheart do u beLIEve that michael jackson is alive or dead :D
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
False hopes that are horrible & hurtful lies, that disrespect his passing. RT @WorriorQueenMJJ: @wingheart don't say "horrible and hurtful lies" please...
These are only hopes.
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
You know...it harms me, when they tweet me about it. RT @Tupacaveli: @wingheart continue to keep it real. Believers don't mean harm, they are just gullible & feel loss. I pity them but kinda understand too.
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
I can understand how most ppl are not affected by the beLievers and their incorrect theories. But I am sure his family and those who must live with the FACT he died, and how real that loss is everyday of our lives, to open your Twitter account and be confronted and attacked is hurtful. RT @MoondanceFairy: @wingheart Hi Karen...I agree with you ...
spreading lies, about false death only adds to pain
to pain :-((
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
Yes, there are FACTS. Not theories. He died @ the careless hands of Conrad Murray. Where have YOU BEEN? RT @Lady45Lady: @wingheart Do youn have any suggestion of correct theories ??
Posted Wednesday 1st February 2012 from TweetList
They do not have to make a statement or address such a idiotic theory. They might as well put out a statement that the world isn't flat; same waste of time. They would look as crazy as those who believe that he's alive. Are ppl really this dumb? RT @MyEndofTime: @wingheart / They need to make a statement and put these theories to rest once and for all and tell the truth / Hoax videos hold the fans
what do you think about her tweets?
I see where @Tupacavelli tweeted her in regards to the hoax...for one, he's one that I made a reference about earlier within this site about how FAKE he is. I used to talk 2 him....and it seems like he either doesn't have a sense of direction on the issue , or either that he just jumps on any bandwagon he sees. How is he going to call us beLIEvers gullible when he's the MAIN ONE following all of the hoax sites? That's why I'm glad I blocked his @$$ a LONG time ago. He has no foundation. Sry for the rant but that just caught my attention. And secondly, why is Karen the ONLY ONE confirming that us beLIEvers/hoaxers are wrong?! I will stand by this until the truth comes out: UNTIL THE FAMIILY CONFIRMS THAT WE'RE MAKING A MOCKERY OR SHOWING DISRESPECT TOWARDS HIS DEATH....UNTIL THEY CONFIRM THAT WE ARE DEAD WRONG, THEN I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT KAREN SAYS.
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Maybe these tweets from Karen are part of "dark times" Front mentioned..so please do not forget that light/sun will shine again in our land :)
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Hello! I saw your tweet last night, and she is the only one in the circle close to Michael, who says that Michael is dead. I do not believe anything. Often asked not to be asked about Michael, who just wants to talk about their work but ... mentions it whenever she can. bearhug
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Maybe these tweets from Karen are part of "dark times" Front mentioned..so please do not forget that light/sun will shine again in our land :)
To me it has always been sunny ever since I realized Michael is alive! :)
What's happened in between was just an amazing, incredibly enriching and also very funny adventure, still is!
Karen is playing a "bitchy" role :lol: :lol: and it looks like she intentionally supports non-believers! I guess it's all for a purpose! ;)
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I am sorry for my insensitivity, but I truly can't stomach Karen Faye. I simply don't like her at all.
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Maybe these tweets from Karen are part of "dark times" Front mentioned..so please do not forget that light/sun will shine again in our land :)
LMAO don't worry! her tweets don't discourage me.. :lol:
Are there really people losing faith over these tweets?! OMG!
I just don't like her attitude about this. it's offensive and rude. If she's NOT in on the hoax, and strongly believes Michael is dead, then she should at least be more sensitive to these fans. Because if I were a nonbeliever (aka, brainwashed and too lazy to do research so i just go by what the media says) I would feel sympathy for believers and I would feel like their in denial or something.
I could understand if Believers were going to her calling her stupid, and forcing their beliefs of MJ being alive onto her, but most of them are just asking "Do you think Michael is alive?" and she just attacks believers calling us idiotic and crazy. Um is that not what the media did to Michael?? :roll:
I do appreciate how she was a true friend to Michael. In an interview she said she was with Michael every morning before the trial, and they would hug & pray (not sure if its true but w/e) So I do not hate Karen or anything, I have respect for her as a friend to Michael. ;)
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Maybe these tweets from Karen are part of "dark times" Front mentioned..so please do not forget that light/sun will shine again in our land :)
To me it has always been sunny ever since I realized Michael is alive! :)
What's happened in between was just an amazing, incredibly enriching and also very funny adventure, still is!
Karen is playing a "bitchy" role :lol: :lol: and it looks like she intentionally supports non-believers! I guess it's all for a purpose! ;)
I agree.. penguin/
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LMAO don't worry! her tweets don't discourage me.. :lol:
Are there really people losing faith over these tweets?! OMG!
I do appreciate how she was a true friend to Michael. In an interview she said she was with Michael every morning before the trial, and they would hug & pray (not sure if its true but w/e) So I do not hate Karen or anything, I have respect for her as a friend to Michael. ;)
that is true..she was near him for so many years, I have respect for her because of that too.
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Has anyone on this forum seen the latest tweets between Karen Faye and Pearl Jr getting into it? Karen claims that she recently had lunch w/one of the Jackson's and they informed her that it hurts them when a beLIEver approaches them about MJ's death being a "hoax"....I wonder if she's telling the truth or just fabricating just to throw Pearl Jr off. I still wonder why she's the ONLY one screaming the MJ is dead but yet none of his family members have confirmed that us beLIEvers are wrong. Now I don't agree with the way Pearl goes about some things as far as her money making schemes, but she really threw Karen under the bus in their back and forth tweets to each other. It's crazy..... :?
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Has anyone on this forum seen the latest tweets between Karen Faye and Pearl Jr getting into it? ...
- guess most of us had..? :lol: It was big! lol
Before, Paris' friend Madina said something similar about Paris telling her
"believers" and their theories hurt her [Paris].
So we have at least 2 claims from people around Jacksons that family asked
"believers" to leave them alone. And I truly believe that's exactly what believers should
do - I honestly don't get why would anyone approach a family member! /overreacting/
All "believers" should hold back their teenage hype and just behave. And think, too.
Think twice. Think, period :lol:
I don't trust Pearl at all, she does what she does for all the wrong reasons,
but KF gets way too emotional at times. Maybe that's her temper and this is how
she reacts to BS, I dunno. But she talks too much about the subject, if she stopped
there would be less hatred between "believers" and "non-believers".
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Pearl needs to stop slumming!
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Crazy things are happening on twitter.I personally don't like Karen Faye at all ...don't know her but I just don't trust her ! If Pearl and Karen have something to "share" on twitter is their business.And about the family, maybe they are asking the believers to calm down a bit bcos is not Michael's time yet to come back and we need to have more patience and keep our faith .If Michael was really dead I think they would do a press conference or something to say "stop, you are wrong , please ...MJ is not here with us " but they say nothing .They did not convince me on twitter, I'm talking about Jermaine now...he did not say a word for 2 years and after that he comes to "talk" about this asking people to understand...ya right ! bla bla Michael is so alive !
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Has anyone on this forum seen the latest tweets between Karen Faye and Pearl Jr getting into it? ...
- guess most of us had..? :lol: It was big! lol
Before, Paris' friend Madina said something similar about Paris telling her
"believers" and their theories hurt her [Paris].
So we have at least 2 claims from people around Jacksons that family asked
"believers" to leave them alone. And I truly believe that's exactly what believers should
do - I honestly don't get why would anyone approach a family member! /overreacting/
All "believers" should hold back their teenage hype and just behave. And think, too.
Think twice. Think, period :lol:
I don't trust Pearl at all, she does what she does for all the wrong reasons,
but KF gets way too emotional at times. Maybe that's her temper and this is how
she reacts to BS, I dunno. But she talks too much about the subject, if she stopped
there would be less hatred between "believers" and "non-believers".
I agree with you. I sometimes think that beLIEvers approaching the Jackson's will push them to a point of publicly confirming what we DON'T want to hear....and that right there scares me a bit. You're right...ppl need to be mature about the situation.
About ms.karen faye.... :roll: I just don't understand why she would be so MEAN. I mean...when frank cascio was asked by pearl's radio friend about the hoax and us beLIEvers, he said, "it's good that they're enthusiastic" . He didn't show any bitterness or anger at all but sounded as if he encouraged it. But when Karen gets asked, it's like world war 3. I don't think MJ would like her attitude.
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Crazy things are happening on twitter.I personally don't like Karen Faye at all ...don't know her but I just don't trust her ! If Pearl and Karen have something to "share" on twitter is their business.And about the family, maybe they are asking the believers to calm down a bit bcos is not Michael's time yet to come back and we need to have more patience and keep our faith .If Michael was really dead I think they would do a press conference or something to say "stop, you are wrong , please ...MJ is not here with us " but they say nothing .They did not convince me on twitter, I'm talking about Jermaine now...he did not say a word for 2 years and after that he comes to "talk" about this asking people to understand...ya right ! bla bla Michael is so alive !
YES YES YES! U are absolutely right! Jermaine would MAINLY be the one to speak out on such issues that are going on and there has not been ONE TIME that he has confirmed that we were wrong. And as much as LaToya talks at times, she hasn't said anything about it either. BUT ...I do wonder why paris tweeted the SAME day when KF and Pearl got into it that she wasn't having a good day. I don't want to read too far into that tweet but I'm wondering if that was pertaining to what Pearl and KF were arguing about. Maybe she's the one who hates to see ppl inquiring about her father that way....
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I know that quite a few people think that Karen is supporting the hoax and that she is in the know.
But...you know....somehow I get the feeling that Karen has been tricked by MJ. Meaning that she probably really believed that he had died. I don´t know whose corpse she (allegedly?) saw and prepared for the funeral but she definitely believed it was him.
Later on she probably realized that something just isn´t right and that she´s been fooled.
She might just be pissed off by that. And since she cannot admit that she´s reacting like this. With pure anger towards anyone who´s been smarter than herself ;-)
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Also, don't forget it was Karen who put make-up on MJ after he had been on ice for 70 days.... now who the hell would do that - if he was dead they would not be re-applying his make-up OMG my stomach turns when I hear her name she is nasty and rude.
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i really dont understand why everybody hates karen except Michael (confused face)
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I know that quite a few people think that Karen is supporting the hoax and that she is in the know.
But...you know....somehow I get the feeling that Karen has been tricked by MJ. Meaning that she probably really believed that he had died. I don´t know whose corpse she (allegedly?) saw and prepared for the funeral but she definitely believed it was him.
Later on she probably realized that something just isn´t right and that she´s been fooled.
She might just be pissed off by that. And since she cannot admit that she´s reacting like this. With pure anger towards anyone who´s been smarter than herself ;-)
or she is scared he is going to be held responsiible for whomever it is that she helped to bury.
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And why is none of the Jacksons do not attack Pearl for her "Is MJ faked his dead" videos? Karen bears too much on herself and she could not answer my question why her description of MJ in casket differs from what La Toya described to Barbara.
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Crazy things are happening on twitter.I personally don't like Karen Faye at all ...don't know her but I just don't trust her ! If Pearl and Karen have something to "share" on twitter is their business.And about the family, maybe they are asking the believers to calm down a bit bcos is not Michael's time yet to come back and we need to have more patience and keep our faith .If Michael was really dead I think they would do a press conference or something to say "stop, you are wrong , please ...MJ is not here with us " but they say nothing .They did not convince me on twitter, I'm talking about Jermaine now...he did not say a word for 2 years and after that he comes to "talk" about this asking people to understand...ya right ! bla bla Michael is so alive !
YES YES YES! U are absolutely right! Jermaine would MAINLY be the one to speak out on such issues that are going on and there has not been ONE TIME that he has confirmed that we were wrong. And as much as LaToya talks at times, she hasn't said anything about it either. BUT ...I do wonder why paris tweeted the SAME day when KF and Pearl got into it that she wasn't having a good day. I don't want to read too far into that tweet but I'm wondering if that was pertaining to what Pearl and KF were arguing about. Maybe she's the one who hates to see ppl inquiring about her father that way....
yes ...i wonder about that too , another coincidence with Paris that day ? ;) hmmm And why is none of the Jacksons do not attack Pearl for her "Is MJ faked his dead" videos? Karen bears too much on herself and she could not answer my question why her description of MJ in casket differs from what La Toya described to Barbara.
Exactly , why is that ? Maybe bcos Pearl is "aloud " to make this videos ;) and Karen, well....she seems a bit lost here .I think she doesn't know much but she want's to look like she does.
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Crazy things are happening on twitter.I personally don't like Karen Faye at all ...don't know her but I just don't trust her ! If Pearl and Karen have something to "share" on twitter is their business.And about the family, maybe they are asking the believers to calm down a bit bcos is not Michael's time yet to come back and we need to have more patience and keep our faith .If Michael was really dead I think they would do a press conference or something to say "stop, you are wrong , please ...MJ is not here with us " but they say nothing .They did not convince me on twitter, I'm talking about Jermaine now...he did not say a word for 2 years and after that he comes to "talk" about this asking people to understand...ya right ! bla bla Michael is so alive !
YES YES YES! U are absolutely right! Jermaine would MAINLY be the one to speak out on such issues that are going on and there has not been ONE TIME that he has confirmed that we were wrong. And as much as LaToya talks at times, she hasn't said anything about it either. BUT ...I do wonder why paris tweeted the SAME day when KF and Pearl got into it that she wasn't having a good day. I don't want to read too far into that tweet but I'm wondering if that was pertaining to what Pearl and KF were arguing about. Maybe she's the one who hates to see ppl inquiring about her father that way....
yes ...i wonder about that too , another coincidence with Paris that day ? ;) hmmm And why is none of the Jacksons do not attack Pearl for her "Is MJ faked his dead" videos? Karen bears too much on herself and she could not answer my question why her description of MJ in casket differs from what La Toya described to Barbara.
Exactly , why is that ? Maybe bcos Pearl is "aloud " to make this videos ;) and Karen, well....she seems a bit lost here .I think she doesn't know much but she want's to look like she does.
Coincidence perhaps....I'm just hoping that it wasn't related to the issue....Bc if anything, she's been dropping a few clues too. Things are quite confusing. bounce/
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Also, don't forget it was Karen who put make-up on MJ after he had been on ice for 70 days.... now who the hell would do that - if he was dead they would not be re-applying his make-up OMG my stomach turns when I hear her name she is nasty and rude.
You know??? I forgot about the fact that she put make-up on him when he was "passed away"....I already know if that were me, I'd have to go to mental therapy bc that's just downright sad...:( I don't think I'd be able to do it.Maybe that's why she gets so angry at us beLIEvers....Maybe she's bitter because she had to experience that....Idk.... :cry:
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I know that quite a few people think that Karen is supporting the hoax and that she is in the know.
But...you know....somehow I get the feeling that Karen has been tricked by MJ. Meaning that she probably really believed that he had died. I don´t know whose corpse she (allegedly?) saw and prepared for the funeral but she definitely believed it was him.
Later on she probably realized that something just isn´t right and that she´s been fooled.
She might just be pissed off by that. And since she cannot admit that she´s reacting like this. With pure anger towards anyone who´s been smarter than herself ;-)
That must have been some highly paid trick to fool her then. lol. Like LaToya said, "ILLUSION".....HAHA.
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And why is none of the Jacksons do not attack Pearl for her "Is MJ faked his dead" videos? Karen bears too much on herself and she could not answer my question why her description of MJ in casket differs from what La Toya described to Barbara.
Your inquiry makes a lot of sense. :) Especially since pearl CLAIMS that she has a connection to Joe and maybe a couple of the other Jacksons that she refers to in some of her videos. Seems like they would try to sue her for slandering or mockery of their sons/brothers death....
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On twitter: @seekingtruthMJ - "Photos licensed from Karen Faye- Hmmm- now THAT I didnt know.............."
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/MichaelJackson/slideshow/exclusive-michael-jackson-images-11003372#.T1BC2OEDNIQ.twitter
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This photo was taken at some sort of Michael event, and it definitely was taken after Pearl released her Ebook....Did Michael Jackson fake is death to save his life..
And from memory, this was after Jermaine knew about the book and adressed the beLIEvers....
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Has anyone on this forum seen the latest tweets between Karen Faye and Pearl Jr getting into it? Karen claims that she recently had lunch w/one of the Jackson's and they informed her that it hurts them when a beLIEver approaches them about MJ's death being a "hoax"....I wonder if she's telling the truth or just fabricating just to throw Pearl Jr off. I still wonder why she's the ONLY one screaming the MJ is dead but yet none of his family members have confirmed that us beLIEvers are wrong. Now I don't agree with the way Pearl goes about some things as far as her money making schemes, but she really threw Karen under the bus in their back and forth tweets to each other. It's crazy..... :?
Actually Jermaine wrote that this is not a hoax and we believers are wrong.
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This photo was taken at some sort of Michael event, and it definitely was taken after Pearl released her Ebook....Did Michael Jackson fake is death to save his life..
And from memory, this was after Jermaine knew about the book and adressed the beLIEvers....
This pic was taken before Jermaine addressed the believers. He was also asked about this picture and he said that many people came and wanted to have a picture with him and he didn't know who Pearl was when he had this picture with her.
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Most recent tweet...
It's me. I do not cater to MJ fans here, nor do they care or cater to me. I NEVER say ALL fans are crazy or rude....but some are. I personally placed Michael's body in his casket, and when SOME FANS post their BS @ me about him being alive, THAT is rude and hurtful to ME. But SOME FANS don't give a damn about my feelings. They just think "I am rude". GUESS WHAT! I am able to tell them THEY are rude and crazy... BECAUSE THEY ARE, to me. They follow me, or read my tweets. I don't ask them too. RT @MichaelJaxon7: @wingheart this rude to Michael's fans. If they wanna believe he's alive, let them. Plz don't call them/us crazy. What would Michael think??
I thought she did his make-up? Has she ever said she placed his body in the casket? Is it normal for a make-up artist to do that? She must be pretty strong to put an adult male in his casket... I feel uneasy doubting her, though. She's really emotional about it.
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In this hoax there must be people around Michael playing the role that supports Michael being alive, read: Teddy Riley, family slip-ups and tweets, etc and people playing the role that supports Michael being dead, read: Karen Faye, I guess, so we keep on doubting of Michael being dead or alive, IMO. :moonwalk_:
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She placed him in his casket? For real?
Sniff sniff...
:icon_lol: :icon_lol:
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Michael Jackson's Inner Circle Address Rumors About King of Pop - ABC News Exclusive - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/2020/MichaelJackson/michael-jackson-circle-address-rumors/story?id=11002573)
In this article, it is stated that Michael Bush "even helped to lift and place the body in the coffin." Don't know if that's supposed to mean that he helped Karen do it or somebody else. Her placing the body is not mentioned.
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she is lucky. she had the honor "placed him in the cascket" :D
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Most recent tweet...
It's me. I do not cater to MJ fans here, nor do they care or cater to me. I NEVER say ALL fans are crazy or rude....but some are. I personally placed Michael's body in his casket, and when SOME FANS post their BS @ me about him being alive, THAT is rude and hurtful to ME. But SOME FANS don't give a damn about my feelings. They just think "I am rude". GUESS WHAT! I am able to tell them THEY are rude and crazy... BECAUSE THEY ARE, to me. They follow me, or read my tweets. I don't ask them too. RT @MichaelJaxon7: @wingheart this rude to Michael's fans. If they wanna believe he's alive, let them. Plz don't call them/us crazy. What would Michael think??
I thought she did his make-up? Has she ever said she placed his body in the casket? Is it normal for a make-up artist to do that? She must be pretty strong to put an adult male in his casket... I feel uneasy doubting her, though. She's really emotional about it.
Absolutely NOT! After a body at a funeral parlor is dressed in it's slit clothes, family or the parlor will have a chance to do makeup on a metal table. After that, the funeral director will place the body into the casket, and re-arrange the clothes, so you can't tell it's been cut up the back - along with the slits up the back of the shoes. Also - the possibility of leakage of embalming fluid, and possibility of the spread of diseases from any tissue that wasn't properly sealed up right, should only be handled by the funeral director and his people! The #1 reason of embalming, is to stop the spreading of disease, because the deteriorating body is the perfect breeding ground for germs, that can infect family and friends.
Ergo, for safety and health reasons, there's no way on this earth, are regular people going to be allowed to place a deceased person's body into a casket.
Now of course, perhaps lending a hand to the living to get up and into a casket for photos, that's a different matter.
I just don't bite any of this - nor do I buy it took NINE hours to dress, prep, and do makeup - and they said they were gagging on formaldehyde. Um, no - when done properly, it's quite mild. I didn't smell it on any of my family members, while we were doing their makeup, and the funeral parlor people were dressing them. That's because they sealed the bodies right.
I smell something ROTTEN HERE.
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How many times has she said "Michael is dead! you all are crazy!" once was enough, but I swear she just keeps going on. It's almost 3 years later, can you get over the fact that we'll always have our own beliefs? Just because she claims to put his body in the casket doesn't mean anything to us. I mean we've been shown pictures of "him" "dead" and still believe. I have respect for her because if my sources are right, she was there for Michael during the trial. But the length she goes to attempt to crush every hope the believers have just irritates me. :icon_rolleyes:
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Karen Faye Has noooooo idea of the hoax :thjajaja121:
Karen Faye @wingheart
Is there ANYONE here, that actually believes his children would be on Twitter if he was alive?
I would love to write her a long tweet and tell her: Guess what Michael IS ALIVE and paris tweet is just for show :)
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Karen, really? LOL
Every teenager is on twitter/facebook, etc.
Paris and Prince are teenagers now I'm sure Michael allows them to do these things. Now if little Blanket had a twitter, then you can say something.
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I would think no but if the 2 eldest were allowed to it would probably be under supervision.
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I've always been on the "there was a body" band wagon...
The Hoax death is easier to believe than MJ controlling everyone around him. He couldn't even do that when he was "alive".
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Karen Knows. She must do because she was at Forest Lawn with Michael Bush where they supposedly dressed and put make up on the body.
Now read the very hoaxy last line to an article from an recent interview with Mr Bush.
Quote.....
In the meantime, Bush contents himself with the knowledge that he is impervious to conspiracy theories. "I've heard the talk -- there are those fans who think he's alive, that he's hanging out somewhere with Elvis," he says. "That day in the mortuary I got to see the truth."
I think she wasn't in on it initially, but was brought on board along with Michael Bush that day at the mortuary. And then assumed the roll of whipping the deaders into a frenzy.
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last interesting tweets:
-"What kind of idiot are you? I never bashed Paris. MJ doesn't have twitter? LMP has twitter? WTF??" (7/29) she's using the present tense.... mhhh...
-"It is not a game. Some fans have turned these very emotional issues into an Internet sport" :icon_rolleyes: is she talking about the hoax?
-"Been looking at my pics of you and Mike tonight <3 Michael" :icon_question:
**LUNA**
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Karen is now laying in bed with Gloria Alred apparently:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/iqac86
Yes I do. I was hired by a company to do several court shows. I worked on the first show without any knowledge of the others that would be added. I must admit I was very surprised to hear about Gloria Allred being added. I was extremely conflicted. I decided within myself, that it would be a challenge that I was adult enough to confront. Upon meeting her the first time, I did not reveal my connection to Michael. I wanted to know her better. She is a very sweet and intelligent woman who has fought her entire life for the underdog. I finally revealed myself, and she could have reviled me as much as I had hated what she did to Michael. We have had many debates regarding that time. I do understand that her heart and primary concern was with Michael's children...which it is for all of us now. There is a lot more regarding this, but not enough room on Twitter. RT @Rohangirl: @wingheart Do you feel that working for Gloria Allred was srtickly a business move? You can surely see why some MJ fans would disapprove.
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I do understand that fans disapprove, but I do not live my life according to Michael's fans approval. My life is about building bridges not tearing them down. Hating ppl is not an answer to anything. I hated LMP and she hated me. I have turned hate into understanding and friendship. This is the way I live my life. If fans want to live their life hating, that is their choice. It is not mine. I do not care if a random Michael fan does not understand. They are not my fans, they are Michaels. I don't require a fandom. I cherish my friend's and Gloria and LMP have become very cherished to me. RT @Rohangirl: @wingheart Do you feel that working for Gloria Allred was srtickly a business move? You can surely see why some MJ fans would disapprove.
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You are one of the random fans, I don't give a shit about what you think. I would never trade you for Gloria and LMP's friendship. Gloria has helped me navigate some very difficult water, without judgement. She is valued, to me. You have nothing to offer me. RT @rockwitubaby: @wingheart Lisa never tried to destroy Michael's life, they just didn't work out. You couldn't of loved Michael that much.........
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I agree with that last sentence, for her now sleeping with the enemy....
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all i can say is :LolLolLolLol:
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Karen Faye @wingheart
I would welcome any proof of this, but he felt this way before his dispute with Mottola. He wanted (cont) http://tl.gd/iutqn3
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3h Karen Faye @wingheart
Yes, we have met and you are right, she is beautiful. RT @FaithMJsBabe: @wingheart @jonesstarla75 (cont) http://tl.gd/iutb8t
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4h Karen Faye @wingheart
Don't the ppl on Bachelor Pad realize it's a game to win money, and not a game of loyalty? When money is involved, loyalty looses.
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He said he was not going to write any more music for Sony, all they could do was recycle what they (cont) http://tl.gd/iuqkkm
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6h Karen Faye @wingheart
The estate is doing a tremendous job at generating money. They are generating money...when even (cont) http://tl.gd/iuqhk5
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7h Karen Faye @wingheart
Interesting, isn't it. I am not against the estate, I just don't understand some things. RT (cont) http://tl.gd/iuqci8
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7h Karen Faye @wingheart
Yes, I just saw that. I am still a bit baffled why the estate continue to partner with Sony every (cont) http://tl.gd/iuqb10
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7h Karen Faye @wingheart
Knowing how much MJ was opposed to Sony, I would think there are other companies to consider partnering with to "administer" his music.
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I can not speculate RT @fromGOD2yorhart: @wingheart how much do u think they w understand his (cont) http://tl.gd/iuq5nf
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7h Karen Faye @wingheart
This is my twitter account, not MJ's. I have never dated an African American woman, but I did marry (cont) http://tl.gd/iuq5aa
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7h Karen Faye @wingheart
I think it is sad his children aren't old enough to have a say in what is being done with their fathers art.
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That's a weird question. Interest? RT @ChowningKatina: @wingheart to ur knowledge did Mike ever show interest in black women beside Dianna?
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It seems to me, this is what MJ did not want. http://www.eurweb.com/2012/08/michael-jacksons-mijac-music-catalog-moves-to-sonyatv/ … But hey...the estate runs the (cont) http://tl.gd/iupvn7
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No, on my birthday in London in 2002 I believe. RT @P_Y_T29: @wingheart Hi Karen!when was the (cont) http://tl.gd/iuperd
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"The period of greatest gain in knowledge and experience is the most difficult period in one’s life." -- Dalai Lama
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12h Karen Faye @wingheart
Like-wise ;) RT @neverletyoupart: @wingheart thank you for keeping me company these days. And (cont) http://tl.gd/iuokuq
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12h Karen Faye @wingheart
"In school you get the lesson and then take the test... In life you take the test and then get the lesson." -- Unknown Source
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13h Karen Faye @wingheart
I have no idea. All I know is that he did not want to go back, because it was "tainted". (cont) http://tl.gd/iuo69l
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20 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
I would think they are quite cautious and search visitors quite well for things that could (cont) http://tl.gd/iu964s
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20 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
I don't know what it is, but it seems to be about naming songs? To be terribly honest here, I do (cont) http://tl.gd/iu95nl
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20 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
Hi Annie. On my sofa, sipping on my espresso, with the sliding glass door open, over looking the (cont) http://tl.gd/iu6n5r
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19 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
You may ask, but that doesn't guarantee an answer. RT @Jacksonchickk: @wingheart Karen, can I ask you something? :) I come in Peace :D
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19 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
This is the one I meant to post that I found interesting. Sorry for the mix up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl7Z0yqIWsY&feature=youtube_gdata_player …
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19 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
I posted the wrong YouTube video. LOL RT @Pickle_06: @wingheart why would you say "interesting" to watch? You were a friend of Michael's.
19 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
Interesting watching someone else doing an interpretation of Michael's makeup on themselves. RT (cont) http://tl.gd/itpgoq
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19 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
This was interesting and sweet for me to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay8ayEGu_0k&feature=related …
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18 Aug Karen Faye @wingheart
I wish ppl could connect the dots, and see what is happening. RT @ChowningKatina: @wingheart Fans (cont) http://tl.gd/it4510
https://twitter.com/wingheart
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Thanks 2good2btrue, I'm surprised we've not talked about her tweets before.
Karen Faye (@wingheart)
Posted Thursday 16th August 2012
Yes...that was very funny. Michael was so cute and such a gentleman, he didn't really know how to handle that. RT @KrJasko: @wingheart Hey Karen! Good morning! Yesterday I was reading this story/rumor that MJ complained to you that Naomi Campbell was "dirty" talking to him in the set of In The Closet... LOL... is it true? (from http://tl.gd/isgmca)
Tuesday 14th August 2012
My boyfriend and I are living together (6 years). Michael gave me the nickname "Turkle" over 30 years ago. RT @ChowningKatina: @wingheart are you married? how did you get the name Turkle?
Our relationship was perfect as it was. We were together for 27 years, longer than any of our spouses :) RT @shohretreda: @wingheart i'm really sorry...but i think u and mj would just be perfect together
RIP MJ <3
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/it4510
I wish ppl could connect the dots, and see what is happening. RT @ChowningKatina: @wingheart Fans cant c the same media that crucified mj is now going after his family? Sad
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Some of her tweets today from twitlonger
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n488/Mizugetsu94/001karentw_zps4d96c45b.png) (http://s1136.photobucket.com/user/Mizugetsu94/media/001karentw_zps4d96c45b.png.html)
She's not convincing me at all! Sorry Karen.. lol.
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I assume she's talking about Pearl Jr - our leader hey?? LOL! Well, no one's been in my pockets, that's all I can say.
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our leader is MICHAEL
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our leader is MICHAEL
Sure !!!!!
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/E_07FL%7E1.GIF)
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Some of her tweets today from twitlonger
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n488/Mizugetsu94/001karentw_zps4d96c45b.png) (http://s1136.photobucket.com/user/Mizugetsu94/media/001karentw_zps4d96c45b.png.html)
She's not convincing me at all! Sorry Karen.. lol.
But she's doing a great job at keeping the deaders frothing at the mouth. What's her excuse for Paris crying at the memorial and then telling Ellen D. that her dad taught her how to cry on the spot, as in improv? And the family clues have never stopped since day 1.
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our leader is MICHAEL
And her leader also!!!! :icon_cool:
Stay blessed!
OnTheWingsOfLove
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I do not believe Karen F., says MJ dressed and wear makeup for her funeral, said she and her costumers only did the work, that no one had there to help, that they put his body in the coffin ... remember also that LaToya said MJ is not separated at any time, for fear of kidnap in the body of his brother ...
who lies? :Pulling_hair:
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Some of her tweets today from twitlonger
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n488/Mizugetsu94/001karentw_zps4d96c45b.png) (http://s1136.photobucket.com/user/Mizugetsu94/media/001karentw_zps4d96c45b.png.html)
She's not convincing me at all! Sorry Karen.. lol.
But she's doing a great job at keeping the deaders frothing at the mouth. What's her excuse for Paris crying at the memorial and then telling Ellen D. that her dad taught her how to cry on the spot, as in improv? And the family clues have never stopped since day 1.
She's talking about Pearl in het 3th tweet, isn't she ;)
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I do not believe Karen F., says MJ dressed and wear makeup for her funeral, said she and her costumers only did the work, that no one had there to help, that they put his body in the coffin ... remember also that LaToya said MJ is not separated at any time, for fear of kidnap in the body of his brother ...
who lies? :Pulling_hair:
Maybe this is how Karen dressed and makeup'd Michael for the funeral...
(http://thefinalcurtaincall.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/hatman1.jpg?w=253)
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Mr. Hatman lol
I missed him so much :)
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I think they have different ear shape :icon_e_confused: unless he is disguising his ears too :icon_lol:
(http://thefinalcurtaincall.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/hatman1.jpg?w=253)(http://www.allforloveblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ear101-300x262.jpg)
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Sweetsunset they have had prosthetic ears for over 30 years in Hollywood that wouldnt detour
Me from thinking any certain disguise may be MJ. Just my opinion.