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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: katy (MJFAN7) on March 03, 2010, 05:52:49 PM

Title: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on March 03, 2010, 05:52:49 PM
Okay, this has struck me as odd forever. I've always been curious about the 1998 arrow with 3 circles signatures Michael did in the 80s. I've tried to re-find that blog "1998" code cracked! by study, but i think it was deleted, {if not please link me to it} so in here, can someone please explain to me what the autograph means, I'm sorry but I have never found this out. If there is another thread on here explaining it, please link me to that. Thank you  :oops:

also some of these only have the arrow with 3 circles:
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: XspeechlessX on March 03, 2010, 05:54:05 PM
I heard that he thought ie was gna die in 1998... no idea bout the arrow and circles though  :?

Interesting question.
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: Chamone on March 03, 2010, 06:38:20 PM
Oh shoot! I've been reading about this today! There are different theories, but right now I can only recall two of them.

1. Just as XspeechlessX said, this would be the year he died
2. 1998 was his 'deadline'. He wanted to have a family by that year and to have fullfilled all his goals.

There are more theories, I'll start digging.
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: Chamone on March 03, 2010, 06:41:44 PM
Oh yeah, the other theory is that he just did it to add more mystery to his persona.
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: _EarthSonG_ on March 03, 2010, 11:16:38 PM
huh....99 1+8=9....999 ??????

but this is very interesting

Quote from: "mjsweety"
1+9+9+8= 27  2+7=  9        as in the year 2009?
declining arrow                 as in down the road as in later in time
600?  6+0+0=6                   as in sixth month= june
1 divided by 4= 0,25         as in 25th
= june 25  2009 ...
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on March 04, 2010, 01:13:55 AM
@MJFAN7  Just for clarification, did you bring up this topic because TIAI redirects to the 1998 signature or is your query independent of that?  I ask because it's very interesting and right before I read your post, I'd gone to TIAI which shows Lipstick Alley site and MJ's 1998 sig.
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: teedybear on March 04, 2010, 07:25:08 AM
Quote from: "_EarthSonG_"
huh....99 1+8=9....999 ??????

but this is very interesting

Quote from: "mjsweety"
1+9+9+8= 27  2+7=  9        as in the year 2009?
declining arrow                 as in down the road as in later in time
600?  6+0+0=6                   as in sixth month= june
1 divided by 4= 0,25         as in 25th
= june 25  2009 ...


 :shock:  CHECK THIS OUT!
 
Michael Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958.
Pepsi accident happened when he was 25 years, 4 months, 29-30 days old. . . .
He died on June 25, 2009.
Roughly 25 years, 4 months, and 29-30 days later. . . .
Michael s Pepsi pyrotechnic accident marked the HALF-WAY point of his life!!!
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: Tink.I.Am on March 04, 2010, 07:59:35 AM
3 dots = S    in morse code and signaling
arrow  = road to follow
1998 ????

I took this from the scouts... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: Sabrina on March 04, 2010, 08:08:59 AM
Quote from: "teedybear"
Quote from: "_EarthSonG_"
huh....99 1+8=9....999 ??????

but this is very interesting

Quote from: "mjsweety"
1+9+9+8= 27  2+7=  9        as in the year 2009?
declining arrow                 as in down the road as in later in time
600?  6+0+0=6                   as in sixth month= june
1 divided by 4= 0,25         as in 25th
= june 25  2009 ...


 :shock:  CHECK THIS OUT!
 
Michael Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958.
Pepsi accident happened when he was 25 years, 4 months, 29-30 days old. . . .
He died on June 25, 2009.
Roughly 25 years, 4 months, and 29-30 days later. . . .
Michael s Pepsi pyrotechnic accident marked the HALF-WAY point of his life!!!


Yeah I read that somewhere maybe TMZ not sure
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: michaelsupporter on March 04, 2010, 08:26:17 AM
Quote from: "Chamone"
Oh shoot! I've been reading about this today! There are different theories, but right now I can only recall two of them.

1. Just as XspeechlessX said, this would be the year he died
2. 1998 was his 'deadline'. He wanted to have a family by that year and to have fullfilled all his goals.

There are more theories, I'll start digging.

I agree with Chamone!  This is what I have read too!!!!
1. It is reported that a fortune teller once told MJ to sign with 1998 to avert death that year.
2. MJ is into positive affirmation and this visual was a reminder for him to attain many goals....which, of course, he did (including becoming a father-birth of Paris).

the arrow with dots-or abbreviation "ow", I feel, mean "onward".
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on March 04, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"
@MJFAN7  Just for clarification, did you bring up this topic because TIAI redirects to the 1998 signature or is your query independent of that?  I ask because it's very interesting and right before I read your post, I'd gone to TIAI which shows Lipstick Alley site and MJ's 1998 sig.

Well, I've always been curious, and then TIAI reminded me of it, so I just wanted to find out once and for all. I found a topic about it on another hoax site, and it had a link to the post by study {i think} called "1998 and 7 codes cracked" or something like that, but the topic was deleted or lost or something  :(
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: NCMJ2 on March 04, 2010, 10:35:18 PM
guys, I was punching in numbers when i was bored in math class, and well, this is wht i found...

999 goes into 1998 evenly, so does 666, and so does 333, the difference of the two...


just FWIW...im not sure if it means anything
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: teedybear on March 05, 2010, 07:03:20 AM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"
@MJFAN7  Just for clarification, did you bring up this topic because TIAI redirects to the 1998 signature or is your query independent of that?  I ask because it's very interesting and right before I read your post, I'd gone to TIAI which shows Lipstick Alley site and MJ's 1998 sig.

Well, I've always been curious, and then TIAI reminded me of it, so I just wanted to find out once and for all. I found a topic about it on another hoax site, and it had a link to the post by study {i think} called "1998 and 7 codes cracked" or something like that, but the topic was deleted or lost or something  :(

I found something about it...  :D

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers ... -t1766.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm)

This is really interesting:

Let’s review, including what we have learned from all four posts in the series. There were 9 parallels between the Joey Skaggs "Final Curtain" hoax, and the MJ "This Is It" Thriller 2 hoax. We also have 9 clues pointing very directly to 9-9-09 as the MJ "resurrection" day (and decoding these clues does not take algebra, calculus, trigonometry, etc—the average person can easily calculate them).


#1. 1998 / 3 = 666; turn 666 upside down (or add 333, the Dangerous formula) and you have 999 (9-9-09).

#2. 1998: add the first digit to the last three, 1 + 998 = 999.

#3. 9-9-09 is a catchy date, and easy to remember (like 6-6-06, and 7-7-07, etc).

#4. 9-9-09 is 77 days from the "death" on 6-25-09 (inclusive reckoning).

#5. 9-9-09 is 7 days from the funeral / "burial" on 9-3-09 (inclusive reckoning).

#6. The Dome Project (Thriller 2 filming) was completed on 6-9-09.

#7. "This Is It" poster was posted on 9-9-09.

#8. "This Is It" movie opens on a Wednesday, 7 weeks after 9-9-09 (and closes 9 weeks after 9-9-09).

#9. Jermaine MJ Tribute press conference was in London on 9-9-09.


So 9 Final Curtain parallels, plus 9 things pointing clearly to 9-9-09, equals 18 … uh, "coincidences"??? And yes, 1 + 8 (18) = 9 (and today is 9-18-09). For those who think that these are all just amazing coincidences: please notice the dates and times that each one of the four topics in this series were posted. Do you think that these were also just coincidences—or were they part of a plan?


And if these are not a bunch of coincidences pointing to 9-9-09: then they must be planned, which means that the "death" was also planned (a hoax). And then we need to ask what is the significance of 9-9-09 in the plan, if it’s not the "resurrection" day? Surely the plan would include something significant for this date!


We should also ask what day would be the "resurrection", according to the plan, if not 9-9-09? The original Thriller made all-time records in both the album, and the music video. {click here; also click here (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album)), and click here} Well then, in the Thriller 2 movie (TII), surely MJ would not forget to include scenes of the dead coming to life (just like in the original Thriller)—especially since this is the ultimate in the "dead" coming back to life (MJ himself).


So if an MJ "resurrection" is part of the plan and movie, what day would it be: would it be prior to the funeral (on 9-3-09)? Of course not. During the funeral wouldn’t even fit with the original Thriller, because the dead did not hop out of their caskets during a funeral—no, they came out of their graves.
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: Tina K. on March 05, 2010, 07:39:34 AM
this 1998 autografh is also on the cover of the dangerous album.
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: PureLove on March 05, 2010, 08:59:13 AM
Quote from: "teedybear"
Quote from: "_EarthSonG_"
huh....99 1+8=9....999 ??????

but this is very interesting

Quote from: "mjsweety"
1+9+9+8= 27  2+7=  9        as in the year 2009?
declining arrow                 as in down the road as in later in time
600?  6+0+0=6                   as in sixth month= june
1 divided by 4= 0,25         as in 25th
= june 25  2009 ...


 :shock:  CHECK THIS OUT!
 
Michael Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958.
Pepsi accident happened when he was 25 years, 4 months, 29-30 days old. . . .
He died on June 25, 2009.
Roughly 25 years, 4 months, and 29-30 days later. . . .
Michael s Pepsi pyrotechnic accident marked the HALF-WAY point of his life!!!

WoW this is interesting  :o
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: looking4truth on March 05, 2010, 09:38:12 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "teedybear"
Quote from: "_EarthSonG_"
huh....99 1+8=9....999 ??????

but this is very interesting

Quote from: "mjsweety"
1+9+9+8= 27  2+7=  9        as in the year 2009?
declining arrow                 as in down the road as in later in time
600?  6+0+0=6                   as in sixth month= june
1 divided by 4= 0,25         as in 25th
= june 25  2009 ...


 :shock:  CHECK THIS OUT!
 
Michael Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958.
Pepsi accident happened when he was 25 years, 4 months, 29-30 days old. . . .
He died on June 25, 2009.
Roughly 25 years, 4 months, and 29-30 days later. . . .
Michael s Pepsi pyrotechnic accident marked the HALF-WAY point of his life!!!

WoW this is interesting  :o

You can say that again.  :lol: It's also interesting that the accident's footage was released soon after June 25th. Could that have been a clue to the 999 theory?
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: Jacksonology on March 05, 2010, 09:42:29 AM
Quote from: "teedybear"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"
@MJFAN7  Just for clarification, did you bring up this topic because TIAI redirects to the 1998 signature or is your query independent of that?  I ask because it's very interesting and right before I read your post, I'd gone to TIAI which shows Lipstick Alley site and MJ's 1998 sig.

Well, I've always been curious, and then TIAI reminded me of it, so I just wanted to find out once and for all. I found a topic about it on another hoax site, and it had a link to the post by study {i think} called "1998 and 7 codes cracked" or something like that, but the topic was deleted or lost or something  :(

I found something about it...  :D

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers ... -t1766.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm)

This is really interesting:

Let’s review, including what we have learned from all four posts in the series. There were 9 parallels between the Joey Skaggs "Final Curtain" hoax, and the MJ "This Is It" Thriller 2 hoax. We also have 9 clues pointing very directly to 9-9-09 as the MJ "resurrection" day (and decoding these clues does not take algebra, calculus, trigonometry, etc—the average person can easily calculate them).


#1. 1998 / 3 = 666; turn 666 upside down (or add 333, the Dangerous formula) and you have 999 (9-9-09).

#2. 1998: add the first digit to the last three, 1 + 998 = 999.

#3. 9-9-09 is a catchy date, and easy to remember (like 6-6-06, and 7-7-07, etc).

#4. 9-9-09 is 77 days from the "death" on 6-25-09 (inclusive reckoning).

#5. 9-9-09 is 7 days from the funeral / "burial" on 9-3-09 (inclusive reckoning).

#6. The Dome Project (Thriller 2 filming) was completed on 6-9-09.

#7. "This Is It" poster was posted on 9-9-09.

#8. "This Is It" movie opens on a Wednesday, 7 weeks after 9-9-09 (and closes 9 weeks after 9-9-09).

#9. Jermaine MJ Tribute press conference was in London on 9-9-09.


So 9 Final Curtain parallels, plus 9 things pointing clearly to 9-9-09, equals 18 … uh, "coincidences"??? And yes, 1 + 8 (18) = 9 (and today is 9-18-09). For those who think that these are all just amazing coincidences: please notice the dates and times that each one of the four topics in this series were posted. Do you think that these were also just coincidences—or were they part of a plan?


And if these are not a bunch of coincidences pointing to 9-9-09: then they must be planned, which means that the "death" was also planned (a hoax). And then we need to ask what is the significance of 9-9-09 in the plan, if it’s not the "resurrection" day? Surely the plan would include something significant for this date!


We should also ask what day would be the "resurrection", according to the plan, if not 9-9-09? The original Thriller made all-time records in both the album, and the music video. {click here; also click here (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album)), and click here} Well then, in the Thriller 2 movie (TII), surely MJ would not forget to include scenes of the dead coming to life (just like in the original Thriller)—especially since this is the ultimate in the "dead" coming back to life (MJ himself).


So if an MJ "resurrection" is part of the plan and movie, what day would it be: would it be prior to the funeral (on 9-3-09)? Of course not. During the funeral wouldn’t even fit with the original Thriller, because the dead did not hop out of their caskets during a funeral—no, they came out of their graves.
Interesting, even though 2009 has passed.. but the return date could be 9-9-10 so this post can refer to any year ;)
Title: Re: The whole 1998 autograph
Post by: londonluck on March 05, 2010, 04:53:30 PM
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