Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael's features, habits & disguises => Topic started by: icy55 on November 23, 2009, 09:30:07 AM
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Hi I was just wondering, why did Michael's autograph in the late 80s to early 90s looked like this? Does it represent anything? He signed 1998 and added 000 at the end even though it wasnt even 1998 yet!
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/SClooker/MJcodeclose-up.jpg)
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/Entertainment/original700/michael-jackson-glove-2009-8-13-11-41-53.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iq2vQY1Jeaw/SlejGk3y6cI/AAAAAAAAOIs/oT0CMpQ2JdI/s400/MJ-fedora2.jpg)
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I have no earthly idea..
im sure it has to represent something, if not it's pretty random.
:?:
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yeah! I hope someone knows! It might be something important? Who knows?
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Hmm, I've been wondering the very same thing :?: What it could mean?
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I think it has been said that Michael included 1998 in his signature for a time because it was the year he predicted he would die :? . I've never known if this is true though. Does anyone have more information? I wonder if he was initially planning a hoax for this date but postponed it because of his children! :P
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well what i did was 1998 divided by 4 then i did plus 000=499.5 so then i did 4+9+9+5=27 so it has a 7 lols i think its wrong but that's what i did to see if a 7 was in it lolz i could be wrong and since he was very religious i found out there are 27 books in the New Testament in the bible :D that's all i could think of
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I think it has been said that Michael included 1998 in his signature for a time because it was the year he predicted he would die :? . I've never known if this is true though. Does anyone have more information? I wonder if he was initially planning a hoax for this date but postponed it because of his children! :P
i also heard that to so that could be a logical reason also!!!! :D
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We should really figure this one out :geek: if we can crack everything else surely we can crack this one.
However, it may be complete nonsense because Mike liked to "razzle dazzle" people. Which means keep them interested when nothing is happening. Maybe he was doing that.
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Yes, it may simply have been because he liked to create an air of mystery to incite speculation. It's very interesting though... :geek: (Head scratch smiley).
LOL Mj5StarChick!! :lol:
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yes we can! haha! I am thinking the first picture is the weirdest when my friend showed me. I was like HUH? wassup with all the mathematics? Is it some code he was trying to convey to us?
I've also heard about the theory that he thought he was going to die in 1998. I heard during the Barbara Walters interview where he kinda hinted that he might be psychic? I dont know. But OH MAN! I really want to figure this out! :shock:
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I've read in a few places that he signed his autographs that way because he felt that he would be dead by 1998. I don't know about the 000 though -- first time that I've seen that.
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Our Michael is indeed full of mystery :)
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Here's another one, drawn by Michael.
;)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/14m3s44.jpg)
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1998 ?!?! ... that would mess up my life at that young age ... I was eight 1/2 .... & I think it was a better idea to wait on doing the hoax ... first , it would heartbreaking for his children at that age to fake your death & waiting until his kids were older was the best way to do it .... !
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Hi I was just wondering, why did Michael's autograph in the late 80s to early 90s looked like this? Does it represent anything? He signed 1998 and added 000 at the end even though it wasnt even 1998 yet!
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/SClooker/MJcodeclose-up.jpg)
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/Entertainment/original700/michael-jackson-glove-2009-8-13-11-41-53.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iq2vQY1Jeaw/SlejGk3y6cI/AAAAAAAAOIs/oT0CMpQ2JdI/s400/MJ-fedora2.jpg)
hey hey ..
what's the meaning of ^÷4 ?????
and did someone notice ..atthe first autograph .. the arrow is down ..
at the others it's up ..
maybe he's starting (planning ?) this HD since 1998
just opinion :geek: :geek:
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@DaTrootWillPrevail
These autographs were made before 1998, during the late 1980s to early 1990s (during the dagerous period) I am trying to figure out too! But nothing makes sense =(
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@DaTrootWillPrevail
These autographs were made before 1998, during the late 1980s to early 1990s (during the dagerous period) I am trying to figure out too! But nothing makes sense =(
OMG .. i forgot that !
so it's getting strange .. whats the meaning ... :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek:
we need mathematic master here ..
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Supposedly a psychic told him that he would die that year, so he was supposed to sign the year to avoid that happening. I imagine he realized it was complete bull so he eventually stopped.
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Supposedly a psychic told him that he would die that year, so he was supposed to sign the year to avoid that happening. I imagine he realized it was complete bull so he eventually stopped.
Or maybe... Because he signed it and thus he avoided 'death' in 1998? haha!
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this is quite strange,
does anyone know exactly when he stopped doing this?
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Hi I was just wondering, why did Michael's autograph in the late 80s to early 90s looked like this? Does it represent anything? He signed 1998 and added 000 at the end even though it wasnt even 1998 yet!
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/SClooker/MJcodeclose-up.jpg)
1998
down 3 circles , few 3, little 3
1 between/ dividing 4
?????
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@Gema
I hear you! I DONT UNDERSTAND! hahaha! I dont even know what it means! Esp divide by 4?!?!?! What on earth man! hahaaha! Michael, stop playing with us! LOL!
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Lol,
In shorthand writing.
shorthand alphabet
(http://web.educastur.princast.es/proyectos/grupotecne/archivos/investiga/176alfabeto%20taquigr%C3%A1fico.jpg)
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I think my brain just melted :(
lol.
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he has 3 kids....mayb the 4th is coming?
THE SWEDISH CODE OF JUDICIAL. PROCEDURE. Ds 1998:000
http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c4/1 ... 2970fc.pdf (http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c4/15/40/472970fc.pdf)
:lol: IDK, I will take a rest, omg
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Supposedly a psychic told him that he would die that year, so he was supposed to sign the year to avoid that happening. I imagine he realized it was complete bull so he eventually stopped.
Or maybe... Because he signed it and thus he avoided 'death' in 1998? haha!
It could be, but I think he stopped signing that way before '98. (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/clarkstone/Diego/ilol.gif) Either way, it's strange no one has heard a definitive reason for it.
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yeah! wassup man michael? haha! maybe when he comes out, we can ask him this question! That's provided, if he actually remembers! =)
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@DaTrootWillPrevail
These autographs were made before 1998, during the late 1980s to early 1990s (during the dagerous period) I am trying to figure out too! But nothing makes sense =(
He autographed with 1998 in 1984 once. He didn't use the OOO arrow thing. I had pictures saved because I posted somethings about it on old MJHD a looong time ago but I've gotten a new hard drive since then. I'll try to find the link....
Edit: found it. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... c214c.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/nation/stories/DN-ladonna_29met.ART.State.Edition2.4bc214c.html)
This is unbelievable actually. They had two pictures. They now have one. One picture is still there but it's SO small you can't see it. And it's in black and white. Before, it was a HUGE color picture. Why all the changes?! Anyway, you can read about it at least.
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haha! So we've yet to solve the mystery of the weird autographs!
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I've read in a few places that he signed his autographs that way because he felt that he would be dead by 1998. I don't know about the 000 though -- first time that I've seen that.
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Take a look at this. It's from TMJK7 tweets.
Always aim at complete harmony of thought & word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts & everything will be well. *Gandhi* (-000-) 5:19 PM Nov 25th from web
He used in some other tweets too.
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I've read in a few places that he signed his autographs that way because he felt that he would be dead by 1998. I don't know about the 000 though -- first time that I've seen that.
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Take a look at this. It's from TMJK7 tweets.
Always aim at complete harmony of thought & word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts & everything will be well. *Gandhi* (-000-) 5:19 PM Nov 25th from web
He used in some other tweets too.
whooo a breakthrough! great coincidence, could some one please twitter him and ask him what "000" means?
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I've read in a few places that he signed his autographs that way because he felt that he would be dead by 1998. I don't know about the 000 though -- first time that I've seen that.
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Take a look at this. It's from TMJK7 tweets.
Always aim at complete harmony of thought & word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts & everything will be well. *Gandhi* (-000-) 5:19 PM Nov 25th from web
He used in some other tweets too.
whooo a breakthrough! great coincidence, could some one please twitter him and ask him what "000" means?
Unfortunately he protected his tweets within minutes of my post about the 000.
go figure.
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Maybe the O O O from Santa claus? Ok I'm out :arrow: :arrow: :? :lol:
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Yes, it may simply have been because he liked to create an air of mystery to incite speculation. It's very interesting though... :geek: (Head scratch smiley).
LOL Mj5StarChick!! :lol:
Lolz :) what did i say Gm???
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Maybe we should ask BlackorWhite to have her source ask Michael.
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I've read in a few places that he signed his autographs that way because he felt that he would be dead by 1998. I don't know about the 000 though -- first time that I've seen that.
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Take a look at this. It's from TMJK7 tweets.
Always aim at complete harmony of thought & word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts & everything will be well. *Gandhi* (-000-) 5:19 PM Nov 25th from web
He used in some other tweets too.
whooo a breakthrough! great coincidence, could some one please twitter him and ask him what "000" means?
I think it's a joke like many of these accounts..some people can't seem to find the use of their brains or maybe they just don't know how to burn it ;)
My friend asked and no answers....the person on that account says there are two : her/him and other ( i'm sure he/she wants to say "me and mj") but he/she says "me and (-000-)" If you read their tweets in some endings there is that 000 which maybe means it's "mj" ..Anyways there is a quote over there that my friend found it funny because Michael would sure know who wrote that and not Oscar Wilde:
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss it, you will land among the stars -Oscar Wilde- I Love you all, thank you so much for your support.
6:51 PM Jan 3rd from web"
This person thanks so much for the support and stuff but i can't see any user to give them some messages...support in what?
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I've read in a few places that he signed his autographs that way because he felt that he would be dead by 1998. I don't know about the 000 though -- first time that I've seen that.
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Take a look at this. It's from TMJK7 tweets.
Always aim at complete harmony of thought & word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts & everything will be well. *Gandhi* (-000-) 5:19 PM Nov 25th from web
He used in some other tweets too.
whooo a breakthrough! great coincidence, could some one please twitter him and ask him what "000" means?
i'll try to ask him / her ...
im following him / her .. and she / he following me back ..
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I KNOW THE ANSWER and i got the same answer from 2 VERY close friend of Michael's years ago...
Answer was simple "To make us wonder why he did it: To add even more mystery to why he did it and so we would ask questions...
Thats it ..
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Michael liked being surrounded by Mystery it added to his fame and he was the best at Marketing himself...
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No 1998, but seems like 7 and an arrow
this signed in 2002
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For sure Mike did it for a reason , not just to make us wonder in my opinion...
Its my opinion , but i think that since 1998 Michael has lost something in his eyes , since 1998 he is different ...dont know how to explain
Muust be something happens in 1998 :?:
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and by the way, Michael's book Moonwalk which was published 1988 has a picture in it drwan by Michael and signed with "1998 and an arrow" thing
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I'm not good at guessing. Oh, Michael, give me the answer. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Here's another one, drawn by Michael.
;)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/14m3s44.jpg)
I DIDNT KNOW MY MAN COULD DRAW! LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :oops: :lol: :lol:
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Hi I was just wondering, why did Michael's autograph in the late 80s to early 90s looked like this? Does it represent anything? He signed 1998 and added 000 at the end even though it wasnt even 1998 yet!
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/SClooker/MJcodeclose-up.jpg)
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/Entertainment/original700/michael-jackson-glove-2009-8-13-11-41-53.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iq2vQY1Jeaw/SlejGk3y6cI/AAAAAAAAOIs/oT0CMpQ2JdI/s400/MJ-fedora2.jpg)
hey hey ..
what's the meaning of ^÷4 ?????
and did someone notice ..atthe first autograph .. the arrow is down ..
at the others it's up ..
maybe he's starting (planning ?) this HD since 1998
just opinion :geek: :geek:
IMO, this was planned in the 1990's also: (http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/mjdeathhoax/simpsons.jpg) think thats a coincidence? *michael guest-starred in this episode but under a different name ;) *
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OMFG. Ive been wondering this too!
Its in his Moonwalk book too, he has a picture he drew of himself with his glove and fedora and its got that 1998 and i think the arrow with the 3 circles.
D= Mike, whats this all about mang?
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Coincidence ("The Simpsons") ?!! I think not.... :!: :!:
:~* MICHAEL <-------> GENIUS *~:
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No 1998, but seems like 7 and an arrow
this signed in 2002
7 and an arrow.. 2002 + 7 = 2009 !!
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look at this from the dangerous cover.....
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I always wonderd what was on that mans jacket on the album cover, did'nt MJ have prince in 98? Maybe he said in 1998 his life will move another level up (arrow pointing up) and have 3 children?
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Maybe Leah-Kim is right, since she did get that information from friends. It is definitely a possibility. He did lots of things for that, and admittedly so. I think it was funny that he was wearing the surgical mask to be mysterious and he said that children would always know when he was goofing and not serious ("see right through you").
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look at this from the dangerous cover.....
Awesome! I wondered what that was for so long! Thx!
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Here's another one, drawn by Michael.
;)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/14m3s44.jpg)
Love it, I want this on a T-shirt to wear. :P
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Here's another one, drawn by Michael.
;)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/14m3s44.jpg)
Love it, I want this on a T-shirt to wear. :P
Off Topic: He is a really tremendous artist! :D
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I think it has been said that Michael included 1998 in his signature for a time because it was the year he predicted he would die :? . I've never known if this is true though. Does anyone have more information? I wonder if he was initially planning a hoax for this date but postponed it because of his children! :P
interesting - he could have used the drug thing then because he went in a clinic
some of the doctors said when he was on tour they gave him enough stuff that should of killed him
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He as REALLY nice writing for a man haha
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Here's another one, drawn by Michael.
;)
http://i50.tinypic.com/14m3s44.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/14m3s44.jpg)
Love it, I want this on a T-shirt to wear. :P
Off Topic: He is a really tremendous artist! :D
he is. in all fields... :mrgreen:
for the t-shirt: get yourself some transfer paper (available especially for t-shirts), print the photo as big as you want to and iron it on a tee! :mrgreen:
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First of all I want to introduce myself with the name "Someone" .
In order to understand the meaning of this autograph you should learn something about the Dangerous Album Cover first.
Take a look at the bottom right corner where you see Michael as a boy sitting in a Gondola coming down a chute .
Behind him and the animal skeleton is another boy with blonde hair and black T - Shirt with the white letter "M" on it . That´s me.."Someone". Pls observe the over all symmetrical - like depiction of the figures and items and imagine now this "M" to be broken in the middle into 2 halves. When you turn the left half of the "M" then accordingly you will get the number 1 ....so we have two nr. 1 here out of this letter as the right half is quite obvious nr.1 as well ....right next to the boy you will find the nr. 2 with a horse head on it at the bottom of this greenish pillar.
Then pls turn your adjusted sharp eyes to the big grey elephant standing right next to the peacock .
On his forehead you will see the nr. 9 .....out of that figure you will get also the nr. 6 by viewing the cover from upside down .
Swoop down now to the bottom of the cover and check out carefully the wrist of the grey hand with the 3 white coverings (Bandages) on its finger tips.
There is a number 7. Right next to this hand across the "dangerous" road with pistols, skulls, factories, rockets etc. is a old man with grey hair, wearing a white shirt ,
black tie and a black suit . On his head stands a man wearing a blue hat with another number 7 clearly visible .
All these figures now have to be lined up into the following order : 2161977
That implies to my ( little blonde boy on the cover ) birth date on the 21 st of june 1977 !
....now ....let´s go back to the old man´s black suit ...if you look closely you will find an arrow with 3 circles underneath and 1998 written above it.
This simply means that all this knowledge of the "Dangerous" album cover I got inspired in that special year .... I passed
that information to 2 friends and Michael Jackson fans all before that year ended .
To sum it up ...myself and this 2 people make in total 3 .....and that now explains the 3 circles underneath the arrow....
It can be seen as a prophecy !
Sometimes this symbol can be found also with the arrow, year number 1998 and a triangle ( same symbolic meaning as the 3 circles ) or with a single circle and triangle refered at first to myself and us 3 people in total ...and to be even more precise this symbol was found also with the nr. 4 at one of MJ´s signatures ...which makes this foreseeing more accurate
as when I remember back I told this secret actually to 3 more people in total ...the third one of them is no MJ fan though ...this is just a better more complete update !
....the real deeper meaning of all that is not the understanding of just this numbers alone...it is that the cover itself represents the mask Michael is wearing at times and to realize the reason behind it....I made it to be understood to the 3 people mentioned above and as course of nature is on the progress will be understood by you and others in due time !...it is the cyclus of healing the world !
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Are you saying you are MJ ? erm :roll:
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No, Im NOT !
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So why would Michael have had the numbers line up to read 2161977 to represent your birthdate of June 21, 1977 when Americans (like Michael) don't write dates in that order? We put the month first, then the day of the month, followed by the year. As an American, Michael would have read that number as February 16, 1977.
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I remember reading a post back in dec 09 [or there abouts] that was also about the dangerous cover and contained this same information you have stated here. Have you posted this before with a different username Someone :?:
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...regarding the photo you see on this thread with 1998 the three circles...the triangle ...Division sign and the nr. 4 ...
to explain that in specific here again ....in 1998 in total 4 people got to know this secrets about this numbers and the meaning of the Dangerous Cover ...but one of this 4 persons could symbolically understand only half of the crucial points....because this person was a child only ...that´s why the Division sign ..three circles and the triangle which is the same meaning stands for 3 People ...Division sign is for the child (half a person)...and in total 3 + the child is 4 ...the arrow only indicates when the year passes out 4 people have this knowledge .
you may have come across signatures with 1998 ...arrow ...a circle and triangle .....circle stands for the blonde little boy on the Dangerous Cover ...and the triangle for 3 People in total including the blonde little boy ...the above mentioned... is just a better update of this prophecy ...
kind regards,
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It could be about children or it could be that he planned something from 1998 -> on (ascending ) and from now ->1998 descending (?) that's why the photos take us back from the early eras : like counting back :(The Phoenix presented as a symbol of rebirth, immortality, and renewal)
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as nature takes it´s course... it´s nothing about ascending or descending ...when the year 1998 came to pass ..thats what the arrow stands for ...no matter in which direction...up , down, left , right is of no importance...4 people got the knowledge about the secrets of the Dangerous Cover ...at first the blonde little boy behind Michael with the birth date 21 6 1977 ...who told this secrets to 3 more people ...including him and this guys is in total 4 ...it´s just that this child I was referring to in my last posting did not get to know the whole meanings ...that´s why he made the Division sign instead ...
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as nature takes it´s course... it´s nothing about ascending or descending ...when the year 1998 came to pass ..thats what the arrow stands for ...no matter in which direction...up , down, left , right is of no importance...4 people got the knowledge about the secrets of the Dangerous Cover ...at first the blonde little boy behind Michael with the birth date 21 6 1977 ...who told this secrets to 3 more people ...including him and this guys is in total 4 ...it´s just that this child I was referring to in my last posting did not get to know the whole meanings ...that´s why he made the Division sign instead ...
And your user name is someone2161977 :o
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oh yeah ...Im the someone ....the blonde little boy ...on the Dangerous Cover ...that´s why I know all that...
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I must ask you, are you Spanish/ Latin?
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He's a Cascio maybe? Um Mac Culkin Maybe?
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no ...Central European ...on the cover Im more blonde than what I´m right now ...I´m not a Cascio and Im not Mac Culkin ...
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oh and I have never met Michael before nor am I related to his family ...nor do I know anyone close to him....it´s just I have the same ability of foreseeing events ....but unfortunately I don´t know what happened to Michael on 25 th of June 2009 ...
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oh and I have never met Michael before nor am I related to his family ...nor do I know anyone close to him....it´s just I have the same ability of foreseeing events ....but unfortunately I don´t know what happened to Michael on 25 th of June 2009 ...
And your opinion about this hoax/ hoaxers is?
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because by all the knowledge I have and shared with you now ....there is still this little spark of hope that something could come up in the future no one expected in this "MJ Death" matter....I´m with you believers ...for sure !...there is also supposedly a polish guy who has informers and an Italian lady ...don´t know about their credibility ...but all that together keeps me going ....let´s wait and see...
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because by all the knowledge I have and shared with you now ....there is still this little spark of hope that something could come up in the future no one expected in this "MJ Death" matter....I´m with you believers ...for sure !...there is also supposedly a polish guy who has informers and an Italian lady ...don´t know about their credibility ...but all that together keeps me going ....let´s wait and see...
Never heard of the Polish man :lol:
Yeah, let´s wait and see....