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Title: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: CC on December 03, 2009, 09:15:10 AM
I SAW A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE IT'S IN SPANISH BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE TO KNOW THIS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AHGs5Oq_uA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AHGs5Oq_uA)


THE PICTURES THERE AND WHAT THE VIDEO SAIS ABOUT THE MOONWALK BOOK... :roll:
MAYBE A CLUE :?:
I DON'T THINK ON CLUES ANYMORE... BUT ITS WEIRD...

"IN A STATEMENT THE VICTORY TOUR WAS GOING TO BE CALLED "THE FINAL Courtain" because they understood that would be the last we did together. BUT then deciding against putting emphasis on IT."
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: GirlSaturday on December 03, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
The jackets were a bit creepy to see. The Victory tour was in 1984 right? Fashions have changed so why return to an older look? Plus I am reminded about two things that keep rolling around in my brain. MJ has not performed on a US tour since 1989. The Jacksons revealed in the trailer for the Jack5ons Reality show that they have not performed since 1989. What's up with that year for both MJ and the Jacksons???
Quote from: "CC"
I SAW A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE IT'S IN SPANISH BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE TO KNOW THIS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AHGs5Oq_uA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AHGs5Oq_uA)


THE PICTURES THERE AND WHAT THE VIDEO SAIS ABOUT THE MOONWALK BOOK... :roll:
MAYBE A CLUE :?:
I DON'T THINK ON CLUES ANYMORE... BUT ITS WEIRD...

"IN A STATEMENT THE VICTORY TOUR WAS GOING TO BE CALLED "THE FINAL Courtain" because they understood that would be the last we did together. BUT then deciding against putting emphasis on IT."
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: CC on December 03, 2009, 12:49:37 PM
20th aniversary 1989/2009
 :lol:
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: mumof3 on December 03, 2009, 01:03:48 PM
i have read that book and there are a few things that he says in it like this is it about acting.
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: MJJLives on December 03, 2009, 01:43:39 PM
Michael also said in his Moonwalk book that he had always wanted to ride in an ambulance and hear the sirens going.   :D
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: CC on April 02, 2010, 01:58:32 PM
I WAS WATCHING THE VICTORY TOUR ON MJTUNES, HERE IS THE LINK:
http://www.mjtunes.com/modules/smartmed ... clipid=555 (http://www.mjtunes.com/modules/smartmedia/clip.php?categoryid=7&folderid=11&clipid=555)
AND I FOUND WEIRD THAT THIS TOUR WAS IN JULY 1984, THIS SHOW STARTS WITH WE WANNA BE STARTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS IT, AND ALL OF US KNOW ABOUT THE FINAL COURTAIN THING ON VICTORY TOUR AND THE VICTORY TOUR THEME AT FUNERAL...
IF YOU WANT, TAKE A LOOK!
LOVE :D
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on April 02, 2010, 02:36:39 PM
I read this in a french book also that Michael wanted the Victory tour named the final curtain... :?
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: Single Scale on April 02, 2010, 02:37:50 PM
I wonder where that guy went to.
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: Aintnosunshine on April 02, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
Just to add the Jacksons performance at the 2-day 30th anniversary show in Madison Square Garden on September 10, 2001 (rememberable date!). So 1989 wasn`t their last ....
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: Single Scale on April 02, 2010, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Just to add the Jacksons performance at the 2-day 30th anniversary show in Madison Square Garden on September 10, 2001 (rememberable date!). So 1989 wasn`t their last ....

Why the hell does she always make the same stupid face...
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: Aintnosunshine on April 02, 2010, 03:05:50 PM
Quote from: "Single Scale"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Just to add the Jacksons performance at the 2-day 30th anniversary show in Madison Square Garden on September 10, 2001 (rememberable date!). So 1989 wasn`t their last ....

Why the hell does she always make the same stupid face...

Whom do you mean?
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: the arabian nights on April 02, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
see this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 776694433# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2897829953776694433#)
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: the arabian nights on April 02, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
i was watching some film about mike - and i think he announced on the stage that he would not be doing a tour with his brothers again

can we find vocals on this?

the programme i watched had the boys complaining to pap joe that they got publically dumped by mike

the programme i think came from a book from his then bodyguard.
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: the arabian nights on April 02, 2010, 03:41:50 PM
it did hear that mike did not actually write the moonwalker book he just spent a few hours with the guy and the book was written like that -

what i find interesting is that mike  like the rest of us says something is the end the last and then changes his mind that is life


remember tina turner said the same and then came back?

by the way i am loving this thread, i am learning - thanks.
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: CC on April 02, 2010, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
see this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 776694433# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2897829953776694433#)

WOW :shock:
THIS IS SO MUCH LIKE TII!!!
THE  COMB THINK ON HIS HAIR.... THE MOVES....
THE GREEN FROG LOL!
VIDEO FROM RTL? (CORONER VAN VIDEO)
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: the arabian nights on April 02, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
see this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 776694433# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2897829953776694433#)

WOW :shock:
THIS IS SO MUCH LIKE TII!!!
THE  COMB THINK ON HIS HAIR.... THE MOVES....
THE GREEN FROG LOL!
VIDEO FROM RTL? (CORONER VAN VIDEO)

yeap i heard that the moves for the songs were perfect so no need to change and he was right

but back to victory - he didnt want to do this with his brothers did he -am i right?

plus is this the tour that the brothers brought the dummy to because mike did not show up?

and he gave all his share of the money away - strong sign to me apart from his giving nature, that he did not want anything to do with it
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: Aintnosunshine on April 02, 2010, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
it did hear that mike did not actually write the moonwalker book he just spent a few hours with the guy and the book was written like that -

what i find interesting is that mike  like the rest of us says something is the end the last and then changes his mind that is life


remember tina turner said the same and then came back?

by the way i am loving this thread, i am learning - thanks.


Well, actually he did not change his mind. He just wasn`t continuing to perform with his brothers again because he intented to go on with his unique solo carreer - which he did (the Bad Tour was his first without the brothers ..).
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: the arabian nights on April 02, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_To ... ksons_tour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Tour_(The_Jacksons_tour))

The Victory Tour was the biggest and final concert tour of the United States and Canada in 1984 by The Jacksons. Beginning July 6 and ending on December 9, the tour included 55 concerts to an audience of approximately 2 million. It was named after the newly released Jacksons' album Victory although none of the album's songs appear on the tour's set list (Marlon confirmed it was because Michael refused to rehearse or perform them). The tour reportedly grossed $175 million and set a new record for the then-largest grossing tour. The 1984 Victory Tour showcased Michael's single decorated glove, black sequin jacket and moonwalk, which captivated audiences around the world early in 1983, just about a year prior.

Following a controversy with the way tickets were purchased, lead-singer Michael Jackson donated his proceeds (approx. $5 million) from the tour to three charities, including the T.J. Martell Foundation for Leukemia and Cancer Research, The United Negro College Fund, and the Ronald McDonald Camp for Good Times.




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Trivia
The tour reunited all Jackson brothers including Michael, who had just released the highly successful Thriller album in 1982, two years previous to the tour, and Jermaine, who had not recorded or toured with his brothers since they left Motown in 1975. Jackie was the only member not present on the final leg of the tour, due to a knee injury. However, Jackie made a full recovery and joined the Jacksons on stage during the final concerts in Los Angeles.
Before each performance of "Human Nature", Michael would 'pretend' to sing "Ben", and even have the music starting to play. Michael would then say "Wait...hold on...stop the music. I want to do one of my favorite songs...give me something better, give me something new".
Michael never intended to televise a Victory Tour concert, though the "Billie Jean" performance at Houston (with audience comments throughout the video) was televised. There are also several leaks and amateur videos of the concerts. A man from Mount Vernon was caught making bootleg videos of the opening concert at the Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City by tapping into the transmitted closed-circuit multi camera signal from the video feed to the jumbotron above the stage. He was later arrested for selling the bootlegs in the state of New York. The concert held in Dallas, Texas has also been leaked.
In his 1988 autobiography "Moonwalk", Michael mentions that the Victory Tour was originally to be called "The Final Curtain", to highlight the fact that himself and his brothers would be touring for the final time. However, the name was changed as they did not want to emphasize this point. Years later, Michael re-used the expression for his This Is It tour - "This is the final curtain call".

During the last concert at the Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, Michael announced that it was "the last and final tour" of The Jacksons during "Shake Your Body", but according to his exclusive interview published by Ebony Magazine in December 1984, Michael had not planned to leave The Jacksons[1]:
"Because I have achieved a lot of broken records with Off The Wall [album] and I’ve been the lead singer for the longest and now with Thriller, which is the all-time best and everything, I’m not planning on leaving,” he said of a rumor that he plans to leave the Jacksons after the tour. “They are my brothers [Jackie, Jermaine, Tito, Marlon, and Randy] and I love them all dearly and I think the media begin to look for something to sell papers and they make up things and they twist them."
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: CC on April 02, 2010, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
During the last concert at the Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, Michael announced that it was "the last and final tour" of The Jacksons during "Shake Your Body", but according to his exclusive interview published by Ebony Magazine in December 1984, Michael had not planned to leave The Jacksons[1]:
"Because I have achieved a lot of broken records with Off The Wall [album] and I’ve been the lead singer for the longest and now with Thriller, which is the all-time best and everything, I’m not planning on leaving,” he said of a rumor that he plans to leave the Jacksons after the tour. “They are my brothers [Jackie, Jermaine, Tito, Marlon, and Randy] and I love them all dearly and I think the media begin to look for something to sell papers and they make up things and they twist them."

MAYBE THIS IS WHY HE SAY IN THIS IS IT "JACKIE, JERMAINE, TITO, MARLON AND RANDY I LOVE YOU"
AND WITH THE FINAL COURTAIN AND EVERYTHING....
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: the arabian nights on April 02, 2010, 04:36:08 PM
i think there is something here  - but too dumb to get it
Title: Re: VICTORY TOUR/THE FINAL COURTAIN
Post by: CC on April 02, 2010, 04:38:40 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i think there is something here  - but too dumb to get it

I FEEL THE SAME!
I WAS THINKING ON THIS ON DECEMBER AND NOW I CAME ACROSS THIS VIDEO OF THE VICTORY TOUR AND I FOUND WEIRD A LOT OF THINGS... WE HAVE SOMETHING IN FRONT OF US, WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLANE SIGHT... I´M WATCHING, AND LISTENING CAREFULLY AGAIN!
LOVE
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