Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: KINGdom52 on February 24, 2010, 12:13:39 PM
Here's their page :

http://www.forestlawn.com/Visitors-Guid ... ocator.asp (http://www.forestlawn.com/Visitors-Guide/Interment-Locator.asp)

Look for yourselves ... 8-)
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tiux on February 24, 2010, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Here's their page :

http://www.forestlawn.com/Visitors-Guid ... ocator.asp (http://www.forestlawn.com/Visitors-Guide/Interment-Locator.asp)

Look for yourselves ... 8-)
You're right :)  I typed Michael Joseph, Michael Joe and Michael....and NOTHING.
SO MICHAEL, COME OUT COME OT NOW!!  :D
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: Venus7 on February 24, 2010, 12:44:13 PM
Memorial-Park and Property Owner Privacy
Forest Lawn discourages third parties from publishing Forest Lawn-related information about individuals interred in our memorial-parks.

Often, family and friends contact us regarding information about an individual interred in one of our memorial-parks. Forest Lawn provides our families with an option to keep this information from being disclosed. Forest Lawn will provide interment location information upon request if this restriction has not been made.


http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest- ... Policy.asp (http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest-Lawn/Privacy-Policy.asp)
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: Muinasjutumaja on February 24, 2010, 02:10:53 PM
I wrote to Forest Lawn and they immediately wrote me back ,so here it is :

Dear ****************,

Thank you for your inquiry, your patience is appreciated.

Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed in a private area of our Glendale location. The family has decided to keep his location private and is off limits to the public. At Forest Lawn, we honor the wishes of all families we serve and respect the privacy of all decedents interred in our Memorial-Parks.

I hope that this may answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your patience and understanding. It was a pleasure to be of service.

Sincerely,

June Pengpol

Information Office

Forest Lawn Memorial Parks-Glendale

(800) 204-3131

I do not know what to think about it  :?
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tiux on February 24, 2010, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: "Muinasjutumaja"
I wrote to Forest Lawn and they immediately wrote me back ,so here it is :

Dear ****************,

Thank you for your inquiry, your patience is appreciated.

Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed in a private area of our Glendale location. The family has decided to keep his location private and is off limits to the public. At Forest Lawn, we honor the wishes of all families we serve and respect the privacy of all decedents interred in our Memorial-Parks.

I hope that this may answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your patience and understanding. It was a pleasure to be of service.

Sincerely,

June Pengpol

Information Office

Forest Lawn Memorial Parks-Glendale

(800) 204-3131

I do not know what to think about it  :?
Well, what else did we expect? That they will tell us that Mike is not there at all? Of course they won't say anything but published information.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: Datroot on February 24, 2010, 02:22:24 PM
So how could anyone make a video of fans outside the tomb?
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 24, 2010, 02:41:06 PM
I just wrote them an email too, and I received the same response almost immediately:

Thank you for your inquiry, your patience is appreciated.

 

Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed in a private area of our Glendale location. The family has decided to keep his location private and is off limits to the public. At Forest Lawn, we honor the wishes of all families we serve and respect the privacy of all decedents interred in our Memorial-Parks.

 

I hope that this may answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your patience and understanding. It was a pleasure to be of service.

 

Sincerely,

 

June Pengpol
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tabloidburn on February 24, 2010, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
Memorial-Park and Property Owner Privacy
Forest Lawn discourages third parties from publishing Forest Lawn-related information about individuals interred in our memorial-parks.

Often, family and friends contact us regarding information about an individual interred in one of our memorial-parks. Forest Lawn provides our families with an option to keep this information from being disclosed. Forest Lawn will provide interment location information upon request if this restriction has not been made.


http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest- ... Policy.asp (http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest-Lawn/Privacy-Policy.asp)

here's your legal loophole on the forest lawn part:

they say they will not provide information about an individual interred...yet, i believe that they are obliged to keep a list of some sort on who is buried there. think about all the people doing ancestry investigation, looking for family ties  and stuff. in these days, cemetery offices would not be able to handle this flood of requests.

plus, it is an 'official' place, not a private business, where they can withhold info as they want to. their statement refers to information given about the individual, not if the person is buried there. but they have to keep a record and it has to be publicly available, i believe. it doesn't mean they have to reveal the actual site, but any person buried there has to be registered. that is not a private info, it's public.

no search result means to me: no mj there.  :mrgreen:

btw, is there a plaque on his tomb yet? no? does it even have a number? no? okay... no name means no grave, nobody in there. it's a decorated vacant lot. it might actually even be his grave...for later...much, much later...:mrgreen:
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 24, 2010, 02:55:47 PM
there are many other celebs that do not appear there as well. i went to findagrave.com which i used to be a big fan of, looked up forest lawn glendale went down the list and entered in the names of the celebs within the last 5 years or so recently deceased and very few actually show up.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tabloidburn on February 24, 2010, 03:07:39 PM
Quote from: "i[MISS
my[KING]"]there are many other celebs that do not appear there as well. i went to findagrave.com which i used to be a big fan of, looked up forest lawn glendale went down the list and entered in the names of the celebs within the last 5 years or so recently deceased and very few actually show up.

they could be in another one of their parks or actually not buried there. i tried 'michael jackson' through all of their parks, no match. try sammy davis or james stewart, even without a date, you will get a list. best is to know is the legal name and which section of a park they are.  but anyway, you will get some result. except for michael jackson.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 24, 2010, 03:10:51 PM
I DID TRY ALL PARKS  :? AND I DID TRY MANY NAMES SOME CAME UP. SOME DIDNT.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tabloidburn on February 24, 2010, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: "i[MISS
my[KING]"]I DID TRY ALL PARKS  :? AND I DID TRY MANY NAMES SOME CAME UP. SOME DIDNT.


well, i still think that the cemetery would be obliged to provide that kind of info. is findagrave.com associated with any official institution or a privately operated website? is their info complete? isn't it more like someone tracking famous graves down and putting pics of it on that site?

question everything, be it as little or 'irrational' as it seems. that's the 'original clue'! ask yourself, why is there no substantial proof of an actual death yet? there was nothing yet that couldn't be fabricated or staged or that people could talk themselves out of when asked.  :mrgreen:

(watch 'wag the dog' - you'll get what i mean!)
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: steph on February 24, 2010, 03:26:10 PM
The picture they keep showing us of his tomb is the same picture from the 1950`s /1960`s
promotion picture which i think someone posted.Just makes me wonder that they had to show us something at glendale ,so they chose that picture.I bet he`s not in that tomb at all.
It all seems a bit convenient that no other hollywood star had used that tomb in the last 40
years or so.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: Loes on February 24, 2010, 03:52:56 PM
If you look at point 4 it says it all.

4. It's possible that the person who made the funeral arrangements did not desire family information displayed on the internet. Forest Lawn respects and protects the privacy of its families. Public records are available from the county health department where the death occurred.

It's a discission of the family IMO. No clue this time ...  :roll:

(http://http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: simplyme on February 24, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
So how could anyone make a video of fans outside the tomb?

Outside - That's the key word?  They weren't allowed in the building.  Well if the family wanted the inside secret, I guess they should have told Karen Faye !  There are people not listed on their finder site.  Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart are buried at Glendale and they are not on the list that you checked.  I think they don't do anything with that database.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tabloidburn on February 24, 2010, 04:14:57 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Quote from: "Datroot"
So how could anyone make a video of fans outside the tomb?

Outside - That's the key word?  They weren't allowed in the building.  Well if the family wanted the inside secret, I guess they should have told Karen Faye !  There are people not listed on their finder site.  Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart are buried at Glendale and they are not on the list that you checked.  I think they don't do anything with that database.

did you try 'william clark gable' and 'humphrey deforest bogart'?
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: billiejean17 on February 24, 2010, 05:27:09 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Law ... ,_Glendale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Lawn_Memorial_Park,_Glendale)

Please look under Jackson Michael...
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tinamjj on February 24, 2010, 05:39:38 PM
I try the search with "Stanley Laurel" and "Walt Disney" and they are not found, too :(
So I think this link does not mean so much
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 24, 2010, 05:46:05 PM
i mentioned that many of them dont come up
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tinamjj on February 24, 2010, 05:53:04 PM
Yes you do... thank you :)
I have to try it myself to believe, sorry. I hoped so much in every clue.
I'm sad in the moment, tomorrow will be a better day.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 24, 2010, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: "Muinasjutumaja"
I wrote to Forest Lawn and they immediately wrote me back ,so here it is :

Dear ****************,

Thank you for your inquiry, your patience is appreciated.

Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed in a private area of our Glendale location. The family has decided to keep his location private and is off limits to the public. At Forest Lawn, we honor the wishes of all families we serve and respect the privacy of all decedents interred in our Memorial-Parks.

I hope that this may answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your patience and understanding. It was a pleasure to be of service.

Sincerely,

June Pengpol

Information Office

Forest Lawn Memorial Parks-Glendale

(800) 204-3131

I do not know what to think about it  :?



Hahahahaha.. Lie, Lie, Lie.. Murray was allowed to go there, and he found Michael's tomb. His fans are crowding the place, and people sometimes film inside his tomb.. Eeh.. Yeah right.. Not even his family go there, so what's wrong?
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: word on February 24, 2010, 09:27:23 PM
Where Michael is allgedly entombed is private,Forrest Lawn is not going to hand out maps to where he is.Murray tried to get in there but could not,that's why you see his murdering ass stuck outside in a picture with  his head down.You have to be on a special list to visit MJ,approved by the family and he aint one of them,its a slap in the face not only to Michael's family but fans too.Michael's there alright maybe Dr.Murder visited to make sure. :twisted:
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: darkchild on February 24, 2010, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "Muinasjutumaja"
I wrote to Forest Lawn and they immediately wrote me back ,so here it is :

Dear ****************,

Thank you for your inquiry, your patience is appreciated.

Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed in a private area of our Glendale location. The family has decided to keep his location private and is off limits to the public. At Forest Lawn, we honor the wishes of all families we serve and respect the privacy of all decedents interred in our Memorial-Parks.

I hope that this may answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your patience and understanding. It was a pleasure to be of service.

Sincerely,

June Pengpol

Information Office

Forest Lawn Memorial Parks-Glendale

(800) 204-3131

I do not know what to think about it  :?



Hahahahaha.. Lie, Lie, Lie.. Murray was allowed to go there, and he found Michael's tomb. His fans are crowding the place, and people sometimes film inside his tomb.. Eeh.. Yeah right.. Not even his family go there, so what's wrong?

Yep, I have seen the pictures of Murray visiting there and the video of MJ fans filming outside of his tomb with the Chief of Security and another security guard there as well.  So, Forest Lawn calls that protecting the family's privacy and MJ's privacy:?:  :?:  :?:  :?: Huh :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?  :?  :?
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: scorpionchik on February 24, 2010, 10:27:25 PM
I think simply Forest Lawn does not know for sure. All they know is Jacksons bought the place allegedly for MJ, but they don't know whether or not  MJ literally was buried there.
That should be done  to keep hoax real.
Sooner or later, old Jacksons will be needing that place any way.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: tabloidburn on February 25, 2010, 06:11:15 AM
Quote from: "word"
Where Michael is allgedly entombed is private,Forrest Lawn is not going to hand out maps to where he is.Murray tried to get in there but could not,that's why you see his murdering ass stuck outside in a picture with  his head down.You have to be on a special list to visit MJ,approved by the family and he aint one of them,its a slap in the face not only to Michael's family but fans too.Michael's there alright maybe Dr.Murder visited to make sure. :twisted:


i think it was a promo stunt from murray's people. it was right before he went into court to show 'how sorry he was' and that he has a conscience somewhere. i looked at the pics and all i thougt was: the nerve of this guy!?!? what the f**k is he doing there? i'm still surprised that he didn't get attacked yet.

over here, people throw eggs and paintballoons at people like that...any politician over here is in danger of receiving that 'treatment', all they have to do is say the wrong thing. and this guy is accused of killing michael jackson...but i guess a cemetery is not the right place for that... :mrgreen:...if i had been there, i would have walked over and just slapped the sh!t outta him!!! like nobody else was there...yeah, right...

i say this was a photo shooting for murray to polish his rep. nothing else.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 25, 2010, 06:51:13 AM
May I speak on behalf of Michael Jackson.  He doesn't want us to presume Murray is guilty, otherwise, we have learnt nothing from this whole experience.  Do you remember what MJ went through???????  He was guilty before he even went to trial, and that's what some of us are doing to Murray.  Please try not to bash an innocent man.  Your've crucified him before he has a chance to have his say in court. Murray is playing the role of MJ metaphorically, so please don't treat him like a killer.  MJ's NOT DEAD.  There is no body, no death, no conviction.  Murray is playing his part from MJ's script.  Give him a fair go please.  That's what MJ wants us to do.....otherwise all this hoax is in vain!!

Have you noticed Murray has never talked in public?????  He is protected by MJs people. That's why no-one can get close to him.  And rightly so.  The strangest thing that I've seen filmed about him, is when he was in church.  And of course all the film crews were there.... remember the reality show he is planning????  Remember the youtube video he made?  He was talking for MJ.  
Just something to think about.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 25, 2010, 07:06:32 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
May I speak on behalf of Michael Jackson.  He doesn't want us to presume Murray is guilty, otherwise, we have learnt nothing from this whole experience.  Do you remember what MJ went through???????  He was guilty before he even went to trial, and that's what some of us are doing to Murray.  Please try not to bash an innocent man.  Your've crucified him before he has a chance to have his say in court. Murray is playing the role of MJ metaphorically, so please don't treat him like a killer.  MJ's NOT DEAD.  There is no body, no death, no conviction.  Murray is playing his part from MJ's script.  Give him a fair go please.  That's what MJ wants us to do.....otherwise all this hoax is in vain!!

Have you noticed Murray has never talked in public?????  He is protected by MJs people. That's why no-one can get close to him.  And rightly so.  The strangest thing that I've seen filmed about him, is when he was in church.  And of course all the film crews were there.... remember the reality show he is planning????  Remember the youtube video he made?  He was talking for MJ.  
Just something to think about.


Who are you talking to? If it's me because I said; Murray is even allowed.. If this were real, HOW would the family allow this man to enter Michael's grave, when it's so private.

I was one of the first that came with this conclusion that Murray is the same victim Michael, when it comes to speculations and judging.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: FactFinderMJ on February 25, 2010, 10:49:33 AM
They do not list MJ but yet they list his parents so if this is chosen by the family then why would they list themselves as public but MJ as private pffttt
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 25, 2010, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: "Loes"
If you look at point 4 it says it all.

4. It's possible that the person who made the funeral arrangements did not desire family information displayed on the internet. Forest Lawn respects and protects the privacy of its families. Public records are available from the county health department where the death occurred.

It's a discission of the family IMO. No clue this time ...  :roll:

(http://http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)

Maybe no clue but it's obvious that they respond with the same text when someone asks for info on Michael  ;)
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: word on February 26, 2010, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "word"
Where Michael is allgedly entombed is private,Forrest Lawn is not going to hand out maps to where he is.Murray tried to get in there but could not,that's why you see his murdering ass stuck outside in a picture with  his head down.You have to be on a special list to visit MJ,approved by the family and he aint one of them,its a slap in the face not only to Michael's family but fans too.Michael's there alright maybe Dr.Murder visited to make sure. :twisted:


i think it was a promo stunt from murray's people. it was right before he went into court to show 'how sorry he was' and that he has a conscience somewhere. i looked at the pics and all i thougt was: the nerve of this guy!?!? what the f**k is he doing there? i'm still surprised that he didn't get attacked yet.

over here, people throw eggs and paintballoons at people like that...any politician over here is in danger of receiving that 'treatment', all they have to do is say the wrong thing. and this guy is accused of killing michael jackson...but i guess a cemetery is not the right place for that... :mrgreen:...if i had been there, i would have walked over and just slapped the sh!t outta him!!! like nobody else was there...yeah, right...

i say this was a photo shooting for murray to polish his rep. nothing else.


Amen,I though the same thing,its just a damn publicity stunt.He will not get away with "killing " Michael Jackson,some deranged crazy fan is going to take him out,please believe it.
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: Tenderoni on February 27, 2010, 12:29:59 AM
Just to clarify, they do NOT have to provide this information.  They are not legally bound.  Forest Lawn has always had a policy of not providing information on publicly  known people unless the next of kin allows it.  They do have to keep it for their own records, but they never have to tell anyone in the public.

Also, anyone is allowed near the OUTSIDE of the building.  That's where Murray's pictures were taken.  Not inside.  This is why I don't believe any of Karen's posts or pictures--she doesn't have authority to get inside (not a 1-2-or 3rd generation family member, which is the policy, and doesn't have a family member with her when she supposedly visits).
Title: Re: FORREST LAWN INTERMENT LOCATOR- NO MJ !!!
Post by: L.O.V.Eispower on February 27, 2010, 02:26:19 AM
i did the exact same thing and i got soooo excited :lol: but then i saw how they say some people are kept private and will not show up on the locator and i was wondering if he was listed in some other record cos if mj dsnt show up on any forest lawn glendale grave listing things then u knw its a BIG thing! i found this site

http://http://www.seeing-stars.com/Buried/I-J-K-L.shtml#j

and if u check the 'where the stars are buried (index)' he listed under 'J' for jackson
oh well..
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