Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Solid121 on February 23, 2010, 03:39:47 PM
I've never heard of this person, I think she's an actress or something, but she has written an account of the scene outside UCLA in the moments after Michael's 'death' was announced. There is a video which accompanies this and shows the firetrucks outside the hospital when the alarm was sounded. It's somewhat interesting...

    It was a really sunny day in LA and we were riding to Malibu Beach when our friend called and told us Michael Jackson died 5 minutes ago! We happened to be right next to UCLA medical center where he was taken right after his cardiac arrest. We snuck into the UCLA Medical Center building. We went in the back door, up the elevator, back down, and out the front door, where the UCLA Medical staff, fire men, and security guards were creating a decoy scene of his body being taken away to distract the media. We walked through the chaos and saw two choppers leave and realized that they may have taken him out the back door. We were totally shocked and saddened to loose not one but two legends of our generation in the same day! We left and went to Malibu, listening to Michael Jackson songs on every radio station the whole way, celebrating Michael and Farrah’s lives and appreciating ours!

What a key sentence in the middle?

[youtube:ignuv093]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot-6WakdUq0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:ignuv093]
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 23, 2010, 03:49:49 PM
Good find.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Jacksonology on February 23, 2010, 03:51:37 PM
Two helicopters Arrived at Neverland from a Disclosed Location the same Day: http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/50176362.html (http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/50176362.html)




Los Olivos, CA-- KEY News has learned that two helicopters flew to Neverland Ranch late Tuesday afternoon from an unknown destination.

According to sources outside the gates of Neverland, a blue and red helicopter approached the grounds of Neverland Ranch. The blue helicopter did land at the ranch, while the second helicopter hovered above the area.

Drew Sugars with the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department confirmed to KEY News, a helicopter did land on the grounds of Neverland Ranch Tuesday afternoon. However, Sugars said Michael Jackson's body was not on board nor were any of the Jackson family members.

Many loyal fans and media outlets from around the world believe there is still a chance Jackson could eventually be buried at Neverland.

According to the State Cemetery and Funeral Bureau, a body can be housed at a specific location without permission to bury, as long as it is stored properly.

KEY News will continue to monitor this developing story, keep it tuned to KEY NEWS at 11 for the latest details.

Story Created: Jul 7, 2009 at 4:39 PM PST

Story Updated: Jul 9, 2009 at 5:00 AM PST and there were TWO helicopters on UCLA that day. One that took mjs ''body'' to the corners but what about the other one??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sVki2BslIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sVki2BslIE) sorry for language :L. interesting how we can't see the 2nd one... it's ontop of the roof you can't really see it though... *Edit* why would he say that his body wasn't on board??? the helicopters went to neverland after his
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: loma on February 23, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
:cry:  8-)
Holy Sh*t.
I knew it.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: mirandacnc on February 23, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: "loma"
:cry:  8-)
Holy Sh*t.
I knew it.


why the crying face?
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: loma on February 23, 2010, 04:10:42 PM
So happy I can hardly stand it!
  :)

Quote from: "mirandacnc"
Quote from: "loma"
:cry:  8-)
Holy Sh*t.
I knew it.


why the crying face?

LOL oops.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: karen-ishealive on February 23, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
More proof everything that happened that day was all for show, none of it was real.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: ClassOf2013 on February 23, 2010, 06:18:12 PM
Great find!! :D
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: loma on February 23, 2010, 06:28:41 PM
To me right now, this may be one of the biggest finds of the hoax.
If she is credible.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: mirandacnc on February 23, 2010, 06:29:41 PM
how do we find out if she is credible?
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Harry on February 23, 2010, 06:42:32 PM
Why would she lie? She even talks about farah in her message..she has nothing to 'lie about'

Weird again, all this is so weird, everything is weird.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Jacksonology on February 23, 2010, 06:53:41 PM
The video seems legit, the crowd gathered outside, the news and press reporting out there, and we see the LAPD or LAFD wheeling in something into the hospital through either the front or back entrance EMPTY..
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 23, 2010, 06:55:03 PM
Ive googled Heather Chadwell and the first one that comes up is a playboy model?

Is this her?

This is her twitter:  http://twitter.com/heatherchadwell (http://twitter.com/heatherchadwell)
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: HJS on February 23, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
I think thats the girl from the reality show Rock of Love with Brett Michaels
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 23, 2010, 07:27:12 PM
Cant tell if thats her in the pic or not....too much friggin ugly ass blue eyeshadow on to tell.

Heather used to be a stripper. She landed a part on Brett Michaels show (Hes the singer for the band Poison, an 80's hair band) Rock Of love. She didnt win, but she seems ok. I dont know too much about her but that is definatley her in the video. She doesnt strike me as an avid MJ fan so I really dont see why she would feel the need to lie about this.

I think her account of what she saw is legit.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: loma on February 23, 2010, 07:34:23 PM
And why would they have..
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taken him out the back door.
:?:  :|
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: juliet on February 23, 2010, 07:35:36 PM
I opened a topic on this in the old forum. I'll check it out and post it here. Be back in a while.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: juliet on February 23, 2010, 07:46:30 PM
So,guys, here it is :

 [b[i]]Subject: UCLA June 25 Witness Report   Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:22 am  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/b]
 
I went to the past news regarding JUNE 25 when Michael was supposed to be taken to UCLA Medical Center. Please read the report.

"It was a really sunny day in LA and we were riding to Malibu Beach when our friend called and told us Michael Jackson died 5 minutes ago! We happened to be right next to UCLA medical center where he was taken right after his cardiac arrest. We snuck into the UCLA Medical Center building. We went in the back door, up the elevator, back down, and out the front door, where the UCLA Medical restaff, fi men, and security guards were creating a decoy scene of his body being taken away to distract the media. We walked through the chaos and saw two choppers leave and realized that they may have taken him out the back door. We were totally shocked and saddened to loose not one but two legends of our generation in the same day! We left and went to Malibu, listening to Michael Jackson songs on every radio station the whole way, celebrating Michael and Farrah’s lives and appreciating ours!"

This was the report of a bystander and her observation at that said day.
I want to call your attention on :
We snuck into the UCLA Medical building. We went in the back door,
up the elevator, back down, and out the front door, where the
UCLA Medical restaff, fi men(must be firemen), and security guards
were creating a decoy scene of his body being taken away to distract
the media. We walked through the chaos and saw two choppers leave
and realized that they may have taken him out the back door


Whoever gave her report, I think she wasn't thinking about HOAX. She just said what she saw.

When I read this, I felt good.

What do you think guys?


And here's the entire thread/topic for that  http://mjkit.forumotion.net/ucla-f51/uc ... -t3607.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/ucla-f51/ucla-june-25-witness-report-t3607.htm)
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Harry on February 23, 2010, 08:31:18 PM
Someone needs to contact her right now.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: mjboogie on February 23, 2010, 08:47:29 PM
Yeah I saw this on the old forum, but I don't remember what ever came of it :?
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: juliet on February 24, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
It doesn't matter what kind of a person she is because we don't have any right to judge her. The point is that she was a good witness in UCLA. In the old forum, I didn't mention her name even because I was avoiding people who would scrutinize her.

The point is she was a witness at UCLA and that is the most important thing.

SOLID, thanks for copying my post including the big caps for reiteration and importance.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on February 24, 2010, 12:57:48 AM
Well, it doesn't matter what was going on outside UCLA Hospital or even inside for that matter.  Michael was already at the airport according to Jermaine.   :lol:
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: still beLIEve on February 24, 2010, 01:12:50 AM
Well  it doesn´t matter if they were doing decoy on the front door to the media.... because they take him out from the roof supposedly so what she is saying is what we know.... she just didn´t know about the roof and she thought "back door"..... isn´t it the same? am I missing something?
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 24, 2010, 10:33:42 AM
Quote from: "juliet"
It doesn't matter what kind of a person she is because we don't have any right to judge her. The point is that she was a good witness in UCLA. In the old forum, I didn't mention her name even because I was avoiding people who would scrutinize her.

The point is she was a witness at UCLA and that is the most important thing.

SOLID, thanks for copying my post including the big caps for reiteration and importance.


Who judged her?
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: tiux on February 24, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"
Well, it doesn't matter what was going on outside UCLA Hospital or even inside for that matter.  Michael was already at the airport according to Jermaine.   :lol:
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: reading_on on February 24, 2010, 04:09:01 PM
You do realize she is saying that they took his real body out the back door..right?.. because she says at the end that they have LOST two people, not one was faking their death and one was gone.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 24, 2010, 06:01:48 PM
I remember the story about the 2planes at Neverland on that day.  Now with this re-cap, my day is looking up.  What's the possibility of those 2  things happening coincidentally?  I am starting to moonwalk across my floor.  that's the best info coupled with the fake ambulance picture that I've heard in months.  Things are looking good.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 24, 2010, 06:16:25 PM
Quote from: "reading_on"
You do realize she is saying that they took his real body out the back door..right?.. because she says at the end that they have LOST two people, not one was faking their death and one was gone.

That would be speculation too as she did not see the body. She only assumed that the decoy was so they could take the body out of the back.

I have to wonder what time of day this was because the time line in the AR has him at the hospital until around 6:30 pm. She said it was a sunny day - so maybe she was there around 4:30-5 pm. It couldn't take that long to ride up and down the elevator and go out the front door.

I have to say too that I work for a medical facility in another state and we have high profile individual's come for treatment. They arrive and leave by the employee entrances and no patient ever knows they are there because they never set foot in the main area. We have strict privacy rules so we can't divulge who they are even if we wanted to. My point is that just because he left out of the back doesn't mean he was deceased.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 24, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
It was early afternoon when MJ supposedly arrived at the hospital.  The sun was shining, and very brightly might I add.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: Raven on February 25, 2010, 05:14:12 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "reading_on"
You do realize she is saying that they took his real body out the back door..right?.. because she says at the end that they have LOST two people, not one was faking their death and one was gone.

That would be speculation too as she did not see the body. She only assumed that the decoy was so they could take the body out of the back.

I have to wonder what time of day this was because the time line in the AR has him at the hospital until around 6:30 pm. She said it was a sunny day - so maybe she was there around 4:30-5 pm. It couldn't take that long to ride up and down the elevator and go out the front door.

I have to say too that I work for a medical facility in another state and we have high profile individual's come for treatment. They arrive and leave by the employee entrances and no patient ever knows they are there because they never set foot in the main area. We have strict privacy rules so we can't divulge who they are even if we wanted to. My point is that just because he left out of the back doesn't mean he was deceased.
I've posted something about this previously in another thread. Whilst everyone has been focussing on the helicopter, analysing the videoclips and what not, there would be countless other ways to leave a hospital unnoticed (dead or alive).
Secondly, since it's common practice for high profile individuals to enter and exit unseen, why would it be any different when they are taken to a coroner's office, the whole helicopter transport therefore seems somewhat unusual, show. It could well have been a decoy, and if so, many fell for it.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: reading_on on February 25, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "reading_on"
You do realize she is saying that they took his real body out the back door..right?.. because she says at the end that they have LOST two people, not one was faking their death and one was gone.

That would be speculation too as she did not see the body. She only assumed that the decoy was so they could take the body out of the back.

I have to wonder what time of day this was because the time line in the AR has him at the hospital until around 6:30 pm. She said it was a sunny day - so maybe she was there around 4:30-5 pm. It couldn't take that long to ride up and down the elevator and go out the front door.

I have to say too that I work for a medical facility in another state and we have high profile individual's come for treatment. They arrive and leave by the employee entrances and no patient ever knows they are there because they never set foot in the main area. We have strict privacy rules so we can't divulge who they are even if we wanted to. My point is that just because he left out of the back doesn't mean he was deceased.

I can agree with that. It does at least appear that she is assuming that he is gone, not actually seeing him.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: MJ_Facts on February 25, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
The question is: Who ordered this? Who told he medical staff to prepare a decoy scene? The family? The lawyers? I don't think so because it took the family etc a while to arrive there.
In very case this was not the idea of the medical staff or the idea of the security guards. I mean they would not act on their own authority?
So who told them to do this?

Michael ...
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 25, 2010, 01:10:32 PM
Interesting fact on Heather Chadwell:

She is dating or has dated Clark Gable III.......grandson to Clark Gable of Gone with the Wind.
Where is Clark Gable buried? At the Mausoleum in Forrest Lawn Cemetary in Glendale CA.

 :shock:
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death??!!!
Post by: topsecretgirl on February 26, 2010, 07:45:38 AM
So if he was supposed to be 'dead' why would they have taken him out the back door??
That doesn't make sense! Come to think of it maybe they took him out by helicopter because of the crowd freaking out outside and all the media present and for safety reasons, makes senses doesn't it??
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: becca26 on March 03, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
Has she posted or spoke of anything from this day since then :?
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: becca26 on March 03, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
Also would be nice to see tapes from inside the hospital from that day.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: DREAMSandTRUTH on March 04, 2011, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: "becca26"
Also would be nice to see tapes from inside the hospital from that day.
Yes, she made a video of the scene when they arrived to the hospital (where we cannot see anything interesting), and then they snuck in and came out the front door, and finally saw the decoy scene and the helicopters and didn't make a video of that??? It's weird.
Unless they made a video of everything they saw, she just didn't share the interesting part for some reason.
I don't really get it.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 04, 2011, 10:40:09 PM
This is a different version of events that happened on the roof of UCLA that day.  You can definitely see Thomne Thomne there helping with getting all the details right.  Two helicopter, but obviously there must of been much more of them as there is footage from the media.  Just how many, I'm not sure.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE&feature=player_embedded)
[youtube:jtmq86k0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:jtmq86k0]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKE ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKEKww&feature=player_embedded)
[youtube:jtmq86k0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKEKww&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:jtmq86k0]
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: scorpionchik on March 04, 2011, 11:07:50 PM
I remember Pearl Junior was telling in FL, how she saw the helicopter that was announced taking MJ's body, actually flew without body.That was bizarre and weird why would helicopter leave without body, what happen to body then? The breaking news video shows 2 helicopters, perhaps for MJ's and another body. So, somebody's body was taken on the first video, but the French video shows 1 helicopter left on the roof and flew without body.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: DREAMSandTRUTH on March 06, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This is a different version of events that happened on the roof of UCLA that day.  You can definitely see Thomne Thomne there helping with getting all the details right.  Two helicopter, but obviously there must of been much more of them as there is footage from the media.  Just how many, I'm not sure.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE&feature=player_embedded)
[youtube:hir81y4j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:hir81y4j]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKE ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKEKww&feature=player_embedded)
[youtube:hir81y4j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKEKww&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:hir81y4j]
Thank you for the videos 2good2btrue!
The second video is the "sequel"/"continuation" of the first one, right?

Quote
According to sources outside the gates of Neverland, a blue and red helicopter approached the grounds of Neverland Ranch. The blue helicopter did land at the ranch, while the second helicopter hovered above the area.

As on the roof we can see the green one (the Sheriff's helicopter) and a mostly white one, we cannot find too much connection between the helicopters which were seen at Neverland and the ones we saw on the roof that day...
There could be a red or a blue one on the roof of the hospital that day too though - but we haven't seen that.

Well... not too much useful information for me... as usually.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 06, 2011, 06:54:10 PM
Quote
According to sources outside the gates of Neverland, a blue and red helicopter approached the grounds of Neverland Ranch. The blue helicopter did land at the ranch, while the second helicopter hovered above the area.

What "sources"?
and
Why would they even go there?
Unless it was CNN or something like that planning some news coverage.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 06, 2011, 10:47:10 PM
You would think that some of the people who spot MJ after he died like at UCLA or at the airport would be on one of these sites.
 If you people are out there it would be good if you could give us some insight. :)
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: DREAMSandTRUTH on March 08, 2011, 07:16:23 AM
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
You would think that some of the people who spot MJ after he died like at UCLA or at the airport would be on one of these sites.
 If you people are out there it would be good if you could give us some insight. :)
They won't... That's why we don't know anything. It's quite annoying for me.
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: peggy99 on March 08, 2011, 11:46:34 AM
When she said "we had lost two people" she meant Michael and Farrah Fawcett
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: Finn on March 09, 2011, 07:04:42 AM
Quote from: "peggy99"
When she said "we had lost two people" she meant Michael and Farrah Fawcett

i dont know farrah fawcett. but both "died" at the same time at ucla???? and where is her body gone? sorry for my english
Title: Re: Heather Chadwell account of UCLA moments after MJ death?
Post by: peggy99 on March 09, 2011, 09:04:08 AM
Quote from: "Finn"
Quote from: "peggy99"
When she said "we had lost two people" she meant Michael and Farrah Fawcett

i dont know farrah fawcett. but both "died" at the same time at ucla???? and where is her body gone? sorry for my english

Farrah Fawcett was an American actress who coincidentally died the same day.  There is no mystery surrounding her death, she had been ill for a long time.
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