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Title: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Hopeless on February 22, 2010, 05:00:13 AM
I found this two links ...it's the Jackson home

http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/ ... o-CA-91436 (http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/Encino/sold/3620790-4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436)

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641- ... 1730_zpid/ (http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436/19991730_zpid/)
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 22, 2010, 05:13:54 AM
wow only five bedrooms i thought it would have more - i thought all the jackson men lived there as well as mj's nephews and the kids.

or maybe thats not the case, though everyone visits

the house would seem to be too small now

but is this current

i thought mj could be there but it really is too small
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on February 22, 2010, 07:02:10 AM
Quote from: "Hopeless"
I found this two links ...it's the Jackson home

http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/ ... o-CA-91436 (http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/Encino/sold/3620790-4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436)

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641- ... 1730_zpid/ (http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436/19991730_zpid/)


OK  so who is going to enquire about the property and go and view it?  Could be very interesting!

If its forsale people will want to go and view it!

 :lol:  8-)
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 22, 2010, 07:04:45 AM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "Hopeless"
I found this two links ...it's the Jackson home

http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/ ... o-CA-91436 (http://www.trulia.com/homes/California/Encino/sold/3620790-4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436)

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641- ... 1730_zpid/ (http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436/19991730_zpid/)


OK  so who is going to enquire about the property and go and view it?  Could be very interesting!

If its forsale people will want to go and view it!

 :lol:  8-)


they would probably do a credit check on pp so you would not get to look at it
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 22, 2010, 08:14:09 AM
This blurb for the sale of Encino has a glaring mistake. It says the house was built in 1983. The Jackson family have lived there since about 1971 or thereabouts. There are many photos of the family there prior to 1983. Perhaps an extension was added at that time. Doesn't sound like this realtor/estate agent has their facts quite right.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: MJLover1990 on February 22, 2010, 08:27:11 AM
That is why I think it's not the Jackson Family Encino house, it's so beautiful I don't think they would want to sell it. :)
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Tink.I.Am on February 22, 2010, 08:49:32 AM
where would they live ???  Neverland???  :D
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 22, 2010, 08:57:08 AM
MJLover1990, I believe it is the Jackson family home in this picture on the satellite map. The address is certainly correct.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjlover77 on February 22, 2010, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
This blurb for the sale of Encino has a glaring mistake. It says the house was built in 1983. The Jackson family have lived there since about 1971 or thereabouts. There are many photos of the family there prior to 1983. Perhaps an extension was added at that time. Doesn't sound like this realtor/estate agent has their facts quite right.

When exactly did Michael have it rebuilt?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: MJLover1990 on February 22, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
MJLover1990, I believe it is the Jackson family home in this picture on the satellite map. The address is certainly correct.

I checked it again, and you're right. I'm sorry. :oops:  Still the house is so beautiful I think they wouldn't want to sell it.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 22, 2010, 09:20:30 AM
mjlover77, I think I remember seeing a clip recently of MJ at Encino back in the early eighties. If I remember correctly the voiceover said something about an extension to the property. I hope I'm not making this up. There is video footage on YouTube of the family having a party outside, way back in the seventies.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 22, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
MJLover1990, I would imagine the family would not want to sell Encino, but who knows? Maybe their unique selling point will be that it comes with a free MJ? ;)
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjthelegendlives on February 22, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
I wonder since when it has been for sale...and where will they move if they do sell it... :?:
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: *Mo* on February 22, 2010, 10:55:17 AM
I'm interested in who is actually selling this house.  

Last week I came across the LAPD beat Newsletterjuly 2009, which says:

Department personnel were providing security and crowd control at UCLA Medical Center where the singer was hospitalized, at his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and at his rented family residence in Encino.

http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat ... view/42765 (http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat_magazine/pdf_view/42765)



RENTED family residence?  
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Infinitylady on February 22, 2010, 11:01:20 AM
Quote
[*Mo* » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:55 pm

I'm interested in who is actually selling this house.

Last week I came across the LAPD beat Newsletterjuly 2009, which says:

Department personnel were providing security and crowd control at UCLA Medical Center where the singer was hospitalized, at his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and at his rented family residence in Encino.

http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat (http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat) ... view/42765


RENTED family residence?
/b]

hmmmm.....interesting use of words.. :|  :?:
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 22, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
The LAPD could have just made a mistake. If it is the case and the home is rented, how would the LAPD know that and why would they know that and why would they print that info? Is it relevant to anyone reading the newsletter whether the Encino home is rented or not? Unless they are referring to another property in Encino? This could be MJ's hidey-hole?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: glovelove on February 22, 2010, 11:13:34 AM
:) maybe they all want to get away for when the truth prevails
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Eva R on February 22, 2010, 11:23:33 AM
no they can't sale it. Its made by Michael. You can see how beautiful is. They have to stay there its too beautiful!
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 22, 2010, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
I'm interested in who is actually selling this house.  

Last week I came across the LAPD beat Newsletterjuly 2009, which says:

Department personnel were providing security and crowd control at UCLA Medical Center where the singer was hospitalized, at his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and at his rented family residence in Encino.

http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat ... view/42765 (http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat_magazine/pdf_view/42765)



RENTED family residence?  

If I'm not mistaken, Michae still owns the Encino residence.  :?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mmz on February 22, 2010, 12:01:25 PM
...I don't think they really want to sell it..ths is so strange...
Michael is /was really attached to that house,He had cared about forniture for it ,and all inside reminds of him. Strange thing...
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 22, 2010, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
The LAPD could have just made a mistake. If it is the case and the home is rented, how would the LAPD know that and why would they know that and why would they print that info? Is it relevant to anyone reading the newsletter whether the Encino home is rented or not? Unless they are referring to another property in Encino? This could be MJ's hidey-hole?

The police can find out who owns a house by the land registry.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: teine21 on February 22, 2010, 12:36:04 PM
Didn't an anonymous buyer BUY Neverland recently? & there was work being done to redo the garden & trees or something? & all the cement delivered, etc. Maybe all the activity going on there is part of why they're moving? Maybe Michael is there & the family is moving in with him, that way he can be with his kids? Who knows, but if they really are selling the Encino home, it sure sounds like a big possibility that there's a connection to the activity going on at Neverland...i mean they've been living at the Encino home for years & years why would they ALL OF A SUDDEN be selling it? & ALL OF A SUDDEN an "anonymous" buyer just happens to buy Neverland amidst all the chaos? & Jermaine's or whoever's comments about "bringing Neverland back to life", interesting... ;)
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 22, 2010, 01:06:33 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
MJLover1990, I would imagine the family would not want to sell Encino, but who knows? Maybe their unique selling point will be that it comes with a free MJ? ;)
priceless  :lol:
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: rowdyangel on February 22, 2010, 01:31:57 PM
Someone just pointed this out to me.

There are questions at the bottom of this page and one is dated Feb 2008 - also it is listed under 'rentals'.

http://http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436/19991730_zpid/
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: serendipity on February 22, 2010, 01:54:33 PM
Hmmmm.....I think I'm gonna ask my friend to buy it! LOL! :lol:
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: kingofmystery on February 22, 2010, 02:03:07 PM
Boy, the housing market has really taken a toll in CA.  I can't believe the list price is only 2 million.  In a different market, they could easily get at least 3-4 million for it.  Tis the times.  It's hurting the housing markets everywhere.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: dragonflylilies on February 22, 2010, 02:09:40 PM
If you look at the questions at the bottom of the page, I think it is on the second link, there was a question posted Feb 2008 about how big the kitchen was.  I looked on several real estate websites and there are several for sale on Hayvenhurst but not the Jackson's family home.  Also, Michael was still living there in 1983 and way before that.  I believe this home was built in the late 60's early 70's.  This was a great find, but I believe it is a mistaken listing.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 22, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
What does it all mean? I'm confused... Are they trying to save some money and move to a smaller house? What will happen to all the memorabilia collected there? Who exactly is still living there besides  Kartherine and kids? I heard that Joe lives somewhere else with his new fiancee.
Or, if MJ is really >>censored<< (I won't say that word) maybe Catherine no longer has money to live in such a big house??
Or, if only Catherine lives there with kids and the nanny now, maybe MJ is taking her to Neverland?

Gosh... so confusing....  :?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 22, 2010, 02:54:56 PM
DancingTheDream, Thank you. But why would the police publish that info just because they have access to it?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: DOITNOWMJ on February 22, 2010, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: "dragonflylilies"
If you look at the questions at the bottom of the page, I think it is on the second link, there was a question posted Feb 2008 about how big the kitchen was.  I looked on several real estate websites and there are several for sale on Hayvenhurst but not the Jackson's family home.  Also, Michael was still living there in 1983 and way before that.  I believe this home was built in the late 60's early 70's.  This was a great find, but I believe it is a mistaken listing.

You are right the Jacksons are not selling the Encino Mansion.
 this announcement is not true.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: bliss1712 on February 22, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
I sent an email to enquire about the residency and here is the reply:

Hi, I don’t personally know the Jackson’s or how many homes they own and their locations.  Most celebrity families choose to keep their homes’ locations hidden from the public as I’m sure you can imagine.  I cannot help you any further on this matter.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: DOITNOWMJ on February 22, 2010, 04:42:53 PM
Quote from: "bliss1712"
I sent an email to enquire about the residency and here is the reply:

Hi, I don’t personally know the Jackson’s or how many homes they own and their locations.  Most celebrity families choose to keep their homes’ locations hidden from the public as I’m sure you can imagine.  I cannot help you any further on this matter.

The Jacksons are not selling their homes.
 :lol:
it's fake new lol.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 22, 2010, 06:04:48 PM
I've often wondered why they continued to live there with those children.  Too many crazies out there know that address.  Their faces are well know now and they are growing up.  I think this is a positive thing.  They need their privacy.  MJ wouldn't have it any other way.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: HJS on February 22, 2010, 06:47:01 PM
I have a background in real estate the house is not for sale it's just the public record listings...I've seen that site zillow before.. if you put in your own address the specs will also come up..
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 22, 2010, 07:59:57 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
This blurb for the sale of Encino has a glaring mistake. It says the house was built in 1983. The Jackson family have lived there since about 1971 or thereabouts. There are many photos of the family there prior to 1983. Perhaps an extension was added at that time. Doesn't sound like this realtor/estate agent has their facts quite right.


I noticed that right away, too.  Now why would Katherine want to move, after all these years in that house.  Doesn't sound right to me.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Tay3 on February 22, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
Hi everyone... This is what I know about the Encino house. Michael had the renovations done in the early eighties. I'm not sure about the date, but later on his father could no longer afford the house, so Michael bought it and rented it back to his parents. The house has been in Michael's name since then. At least this is what is stated in books about MJ. :)
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: dragonflylilies on February 22, 2010, 09:45:37 PM
I thought Michael had bought that house for his mom, after good ol' dad left, or signed over the title to her :?   Could be wrong... but I don' t think Michael would rent the house to his mom.  From what is published about him, he did everything for his mom.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Tink.I.Am on February 23, 2010, 05:10:03 AM
Quote from: "dragonflylilies"
I thought Michael had bought that house for his mom, after good ol' dad left, or signed over the title to her :?   Could be wrong... but I don' t think Michael would rent the house to his mom.  From what is published about him, he did everything for his mom.

they way i have understood it is that  MJ owns the house. And he is still written at this adress, even if he doesnt live there  ( even when he lived at neverland, he was written at havenhurst) . His mother lives there ... and  that is also why his children are living there... since their fatehr is "dead"  that house is theirs...
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Happy Feet on February 23, 2010, 05:32:07 AM
He does. He used it as collateral for a loan in 2006 with Luxury Corp Mortgage.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 23, 2010, 04:44:58 PM
latoya's name there too
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 23, 2010, 04:46:20 PM
surely there is life insurance? if  so does the property now become latoya's

or was there a trust deed?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 23, 2010, 04:50:27 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
I'm interested in who is actually selling this house.  

Last week I came across the LAPD beat Newsletterjuly 2009, which says:

Department personnel were providing security and crowd control at UCLA Medical Center where the singer was hospitalized, at his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and at his rented family residence in Encino.

http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat ... view/42765 (http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat_magazine/pdf_view/42765)



RENTED family residence?  

Maybe they thought he was renting it to his family?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 23, 2010, 04:52:31 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
I'm interested in who is actually selling this house.  

Last week I came across the LAPD beat Newsletterjuly 2009, which says:

Department personnel were providing security and crowd control at UCLA Medical Center where the singer was hospitalized, at his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and at his rented family residence in Encino.

http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat ... view/42765 (http://www.lapdonline.org/read_the_beat_magazine/pdf_view/42765)



RENTED family residence?  

Maybe they thought he was renting it to his family?

for tax purposes maybe?
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 23, 2010, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: "HJS"
I have a background in real estate the house is not for sale it's just the public record listings...I've seen that site zillow before.. if you put in your own address the specs will also come up..

Thank you.  I'm glad to know that it's not for sale.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: Happy Feet on February 23, 2010, 05:52:03 PM
I think he may of gotten Latoya's name on the ownership during or just b4 the 2005 trial as if he was convicted they probably could of sold the house from under the families feet. Not stating this as fact, just thinking.

In the loan he did in 2006, she is no longer listed on the title.  It is listed as one of his business addresses.  But either way, the house is his.
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 24, 2010, 10:10:08 AM
is housing part of the allowance sought. if the house is mortgaged it would need life or endowment insurance to cover the loan, so on his death(?) a claim would be made to clear the loans

this would i believe be done straight away -
Title: Re: Jackson's Encino home for sale ?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 24, 2010, 10:11:19 AM
it would be very strange for this family home to be sold, i would have thought that it would be kept for the kids
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